The messaging tries to equate opposing Israeli military action with "anti-semitism" but only fools would believe that. MANY people of the Jewish faith oppose what Israel's military is and has been doing.
They have lost control of their narrative. 2/3 of Americans want a ceasefire, yet our psychopaths in office would have you believe we are fully behind this genocide. I for one will be at every protest & will speak out every chance i get against the real terrorists, the IDF. If anyone is interested, I watched a video on youtube called “Burning Conscience; Israeli soldiers speak out” on Alternative Focus. It is 17y old but still as relevant today.
It doesn't until the news gets out and they look like the stone hearted souless, merciless war criminals they are. Americans and Europeans are specialists at it.
Then they will whine that you are bringing up "ancient history". Even though the victims are living, and the same neocons are happy to dredge up historical gripes that happened hundreds of years ago (or millennia, in the case of Israel) to justify their latest aggression.
In the words of the inestimable ghoul HRC, "Does it even matter any more?"
More so, really doesn't describe the retribution imposed on Gaza as a result of what Hamas did. I watched all those video clips and you come away with the feeling these people are indoctrinated in the same way Hitler indoctrinated the people of Germany where certain groups were perceived as inferior and deserving of death. Israel is a country that has become sick, and I only hope many, but no shown here, have avoided this hellish indoctrination. Netanyahu is a sick SOB.
And the Balfour agreement was conjured up in Britain. Not by the British public, of course. But that went a long way to the establishment of the state of Israel. At the expense of the Palestinians.
I have been to a couple of very large demonstrations lately and in both there was a large contingent of Independent Jewish Voices. In any case being "just like gentiles" is not always something I would suggest we work toward either. Which is not to say that I think all gentiles support bloodthirsty war mongers, but there are certainly some issues with dominance for some, especially if they mangage to attain a position of power.
Thanks for posting this, Susan. I am always heartened to hear about some Jewish people speaking up for the Palestinians. But my personal experience is that the overwhelming number of Jews and Israelis are thoroughly brainwashed into a kind of cult-like thinking that they are, well, God's Chosen People. (That's just another way of saying they think they are better than everyone else.)
Back in 2008 when another massacre was being perpetrated against the people of the Gaza Strip ("Operation Cast Lead"), I wrote a simple letter to the editor of a local paper protesting the bombing of UN schools and other civilian infrastructure. The only criticism I levelled was at the State of Israel, not the Jewish people.
And yet, and yet, two Jewish work colleagues who I'd known for years and considered as friends completely shunned me after that. It was an eye-opener for me.
yes, I understand that experience and have had similar issues. still, I see a lot of people in the US and in Canada thinking they are better than people of colour, better than indigenous people, better than LGBTQ people, better than homeless people, better than poor people and on and on. Maybe not quite the same kind of brainwashing about the same kinds of things but still fomenting hatred for people who are perceived as less good. When the Vietnam war was happening and it was Americans doing the killing to "preserve democracy" and to "save Vietnam" from communism many Americans thought they were the good guys. I did too until I went to Paris and met a group of Vietnamese people who hated what the Americans were doing to their country. I don't know quite what to do about Jewish acquaintances who think Israel is their promised land either. But then I also don't have solutions for all those other haters. Mainly I don't want to become like them.
And what religion are most of the "bloodthirsty war mongers" in the US government? Of the few who aren't Jewish, how many received no funds from AIPAC? Let's be real here: the US is a vassal state of Israel and those wars are wars for Israel.
And every single one of those politicians who took money from them and represent a foreign government HAVE COMMITTED TREASON! I want to start a demand for the military to go arrest every fucking one of these traitors!
I understand that Israel’s behavior is bolstering those who were already antisemitic, but please don’t do that. No people is monolithic. If one judged all Americans by the behavior of our government, Americans would not be welcomed anywhere on the planet.
SPEAKING OF Zionists...do not forget that here in North America there are at LEAST
15 MILLION NON-JEWS who claim the tag of Zionists...largely EVANGELICAL. Will we witness any change of heart/mind amongst them --driven by Christian compassion or mercy???
Unfortunately, these people (and there are considerable numbers of them in the halls of congress) believe that a unified, Jewish only Israel is the final brick which will call Jesus back to judge the living and the dead, atmehich point, evangelical Christains will be physically “raptured” to heaven, while the rest of us will be subjected to the final Armegeddon and a new millennium of hell on earth followed by eternal damnation. Of course, Jews that do not convert in the final days will burn with the rest of us... however, as Zionists are a Messianic movement, it is expected that they will convert once the messiah re-arrives.
By the way, these people are stark raving mad. And they have a vast amount of control over our political systems.
yep...am fully aware of their 'aspirations' for me and themselves....and I'm inclined to think of such people as belonging to a "DEATH CULT"...thinking only of 'an afterlife'...dooming others to burn in hellfire...for a variety of unacceptable points of view (in their estimation)..absolute lunatic fringe and because the US is NOT largely a READING/scholarly culture, they are few criticisms of such clap trap.
There are more Zionists in America than anywhere. But do they want to go to Israel and live ?fuck no. The Christian fascists support Zionism so that the Apocalypse will come true. “Revelations“ so-called- is there ticket out of despair, hopelessness, idiocy, and true lunacy. read Chris Hedges of recent: Christian fascists read of approximately 50 years ago “The late Great Planet Earth“!
I would think that probably most of the Jews living in Israel-Palestine are Zionists. Would that not be obvious?
I don't think that Jews being settled in Palestine is actually the problem. Many people settle in countries that they were not born in.
The problem as I see it is that the state of Israel as curently constituted is a state for the Jews. They control the government and give themselves rights and privileges not open to non-Jews.
In other words they very obviously indoctrinate their children to see themselves as superior to their Arab neighbors whom they are taught are interior. This no doubt explains why Israel has never allowed itself to think of themselves as middle eastern, or to relate to their neighbors on an equal footing, and they will never become part of the world they inhabit.
That video was very informative. When they interview these young men and women, or teenagers what is so obvious is the degree of indoctrination they have been subjected to. These young people sound like they are not encouraged to have a mind of their own, or to think independently. They display a cult like mentality, and I see it as child abuse. When you read about the indoctrination of German youth during the era of Hitler it doesn't sound much different, especially in regard to their obvious prejudices. Also, they have been indoctrinated to hate Arabs not only Palestinians, but their other Arab neighbors and to see them as inferior, and themselves as the superior "race", and using their past in Israel, some 2000 years before , as justification for their unquestionable right to remove Arabs from their homeland. I'm afraid that this will end badly.
Isn't it a bit strange that they are claiming that the Palestinians are doing this very thing to their children against the Jews! This is a crazy idea to begin with since any Palestinian child could see reality and not need to be told it was happening!
Maybe many do, and lets hope so, but what you see in terms of spin is that the criticism of Israel for it's barbaric action which is targeting the Palestinians, out of Gaza, or into extinction is anti-Semitic spin. Sickening at this point and used for decades to justify their atrocities.
So unless those Israeli people actively depose the current evil government murdering innocents, they too become a legitimate military targets? Seems to be a vicious circle doesn't it?
Netanyahu stated he intends on "cleansing" Jewish citizens! They were very close to a civil war because everyone there knows what a Zionist nut job he is and the laws he was attempting to make. This attack was indeed their 911 planned and executed by the government!
not enough of anyone supports peace. There are plenty of non jews who support what Netanyahyu is doing in Gaza. It is all stomach turning and depressing
There are a surprising amount of non Jews supporting the Israelis actions in Gaza at the moment. The anti Muslim refugee rhetoric has been flourishing for a decade or so now. Contrast this with the welcoming of Ukrainian refugees, (some of whom are Muslims, but it doesn’t seem to count in this instance), and only one word can explain the difference. Racism. Peddled to the masses, especially those on the far right, and practiced by the governments of the west.
People are easily manipulated by media. Also, Islam is a real threat to the West. The stated goal and the history of Islam is conquest. All those Islamic countries used to have other religions, you know. That's the future of Europe and the Anglosphere and it's not a pretty one.
From listening to journalists from the Middle East including from Palestine and Israel I learned Netanyahu was close to having a civil war before this happened. He has the want to kill (cleanse) even Jewish citizens in Israel! The big portion of this Zionist government was and still is under attack by the citizens who he was just like the scum here in the US making laws against them.
The “U.S. “ is a zombie invaded and controlled financially and politically by Israelis and dual citizens with Israeli passports who see themselves as Israeli first AND last:
You’ll find that a tiny handful of oligarchs and their companies in the US, as you put it: “pay the piper” . And a great many of the piper payers are either Israeli dual citizens or US based zionists.
I'm aware of that. I don't care about their citizenship, which is something of a vacuous PR-style fiction anyway, really suitable only for politicians.
3. Israel will discover nuclear disasters off its coastline that used to be nuclear aircraft carriers before they were sunk by hypersonic missiles from Russia and/or China in defense of their Iranian partners.
A nuclear strike on a US carrier group would most definitely be the start of WW3, I would expect ICBMs to target the black sea ports if that happened. Once ICBMs fly we are all on the road to hell.
Anyone not living within the blast effects of nuclear weapons would have only fallout to deal with for a handful of weeks. It wouldn't be anything like what Gazans are dealing with.
you clearly do not understand nuclear fallout or the effects of radiation which last for hundreds of years. People who got radiated 50 or so years ago for various reasons, usually medical, got cancer 30 or more years later. Nuclear would be the beginning of the end for all of us
Fallout - you can't be serious ... in this case I would envy the Gazans (being incinerated and gone, whereas the 'fallout' victims die of radiation sickness ... not that we would not deserve it for LETTING THIS CATASTROPHE happen!)
The MICIMATT complex isn't interested in anything but profits and it supplies the hardware and pays the prosecutors of the wars. Most Americans are too busy watching fictional television and social media to care.
The entire Hamas attack was a joint false flag operation between Israel and the US, 1) justifying Israel genocide of Gaza, 2) justifying a US war with Syria and Iran as a southern front on the war against Russia, its all interconnected.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying - this is the product of an overactive imagination. You have no evidence that this was a "false flag" operation; none whatever.
Yes, EXACTLY LIKE IRAQ. Israel is the United States, pitbull Rottweiler, Doberman, coyote, and a replica of American mercilessness, souless indiscriminate violence for the sake of power at all costs. That’s why they love the state of Israel and its right wing war criminal government, and why the only Israeli president that wanted peace was allowed to be assassinated right before a signing of the deal. They think we’re stupid. We know this stuff.
Iran, Russia, and China are members of a mutual defense pact entering into years ago. An attack on one is an attack on all.
Russia has the only hypersonic ICBMs on the planet and they would reach Minot, Cheyenne, and Great Falls before we could launch a retaliatory strike if their sovereignty was breached.
Don't fantasize that US weapons systems are so inferior that they cannot respond and create nuclear Armageddon. Russia missiles are fast but the US would still launch.
Yes, I know that. But the US has yet to take military action against Iran. And even if it did I'm not sure that missiles would be launched from the Med. And furthermore I really don't think that Russia would attack a US carrier group. The man is talking utter nonsense.
Iran has been on Americas shopping list of countries to invade since 9/11. Why are the American aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines parked up in the Med? Along with the British navy? It’s not to establish air superiority over Hamas, is it? Israel has an army big enough, and well armed enough, to take care of Gaza, and any skirmishes with Lebanon all on its own. The US is after bigger fish to fry. That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s an admitted fact by officials from the W Bush administration.
Oh yeah, in fact I think the Hamas attack was a false flag pretext to justify invading Syria and Iran creating a southern front on the war with Russia. Bigger fish to fry is right and is really the driver of all of it.
The Israelis (Zionists) quoted and remarked upon in this article and in many others are simply showing us the logical consequences of nationalism. The Nazi philosopher Carl Schmitt explicated this a long time ago: what matters is what group, tribe, set, family, nation you belong to. Humans are fighting animals; therefore, they must fight, and whatever set loses dies and does not propagate its kind. Given the historical experience of European Jews, many of them would have to answer Rodney King's famous question, "Can't we all just get along?" with "Apparently not." The logical consequence of this conclusion is what we observe in Gaza. Of course there are other philosophies, other ideologies, and the one described by Schmitt leads to such impracticalities as the war of all against all or its Hobbesian antidote, a monarchical or fascistic Sovereign. Most Americans theoretically prefer liberalism and would have a more positive answer to Rodney King's question. In short, they're liberals. So their abject submission to the proposed theory of the absolute Sovereign now being exercised in practice is most curious. That seems to shock people; but it's not all that shocking when you get down to brass tacks, as they say. When you put all your cards on the table.
The US is a fascist military state with a fake democracy draped over it, they use the pretext of concern for humanity in liberalism as excuses to commit war crimes. Many people see themselves as liberals and the foolish ones think their government agrees with them.
The thing is when PM starts talking about Amalek you can safely conclude that something has changed in the Israel PR strategy. Sure you can get random idiots to say honest things that make them look disgusting for no reason, but not Netanyahu. There some *reason* he's doing that, and my guess is it's a deliberate effort to humiliate the US into coughing up more to bribe Egypt into taking all the gazans.
"Our race is the master race! We are divine God's on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. Other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Our Destiny is to Rule over the inferior races, the masses will lick our feet and serve as Our Slaves!" - Menachem Begin, founder of the Likud
This is their belief Zionist and jews alike. Everything else is propaganda. They play the Victim card with lies of Anti semitism and Holocaust but Arabs are Semites. Jews were mearly a percentage of people in the holocaust and this is why.
Where we are taught to hate there will be hate and the wars that follow. I live in a multicultural community where everybody gets along fine. In my last job there were people from 27 countries of every race and color, everybody got along well . The employer was diligent in maintaining a positive work place and trouble makers got the boot. I can easily see that political provocateurs could destroy this equilibrium but fortunately we have a level of prosperity that everybody wants to sustain and we have a civil government provincially that does not promote the hate and bigotry our federal government does.
Governments like Israel and the USA promote hatred and bigotry in order to justify their violent war agendas. After a half century of imperial wars the populations of the West are well indoctrinated to hating others. Hate and violence have been internalized into our cultures and politicians are chiefly responsible, as is the media.
The fact that this genocide is happening so flagrantly takes the measure of just how far the political cultures of these two countries has fallen . It also takes the measure how cowardly the NATO vassal states are as they silently condone this atrocity. Canada has been a blind supporter of Israel. Now Canadians are waking up to the Palestinian reality and our totally incompetent government is de- legitimized even further.
We are seeing now what happens when democracy is left to collapse and fascism prevails .
The USA and Israel are turning themselves into global pariah states. We are frozen in time and place until such time as world peace and civility are restored. Progressive and positive change can only take place where there is equilibrium and civility . If there is ever time we cannot afford war it is now. If there is ever a time when we must insist on peace it is now.
"Governments like Israel and the USA promote hatred and bigotry in order to justify their violent war agendas. ... Hate and violence have been internalized into our cultures and politicians are chiefly responsible, as is the media."
And yet they inoculate themselves by (among a dozen other contradictions) jumping out front in preaching *against* hate.
Samuel Huntington was right: There is now a great "clash of civilizations". But it's becoming very clear that the one that matters, the one that now (in the anachronistic phrasing) "tries men's souls", is not the West vs Islam -- it's the West vs Neocons-Zionism, in which the latter has permanently martial mindset, and is only too happy to flush the West's Enlightenment down the toilet while singing its praises. Sometimes unwittingly, too often disingenuously.
Most of the rest of us have only begun to wake up. But the threatening "hot" version of American Civil War II, going beyond the now 22-year-long hybrid war of TPTB against Americans, is not going to divide red-blue the way the Neocons-Zionists think it will. It will be a lot more lopsided, and not in their favor. For example, the "inexplicably" growing number of MAGA POCs, as well as Matt Gaetz, MTG, and other "extreme" Republicans teaming with AOC and The Squad to release Julian Assange, are just two of a number of examples of these expanding "crossovers", disparaged in MSM as "nutcases thinking alike".
The big lie here is Israel pretending it is blameless as an occupying power. That it is the victim. A very classic abuser argument. The abuser blaming the victim for their abuse. And in this case, the abuse is an actual ongoing genocide.
It's disappointing too that the latest Arab world summit has led to nothing. So the world is just going to stand by and watch the mass murder continue. Doing nothing devalues all our humanity - human life becomes expendable - human rights become meaningless. And soon they'll be coming for you and your children. The law of the jungle turns us all into savages - human life becomes worthless, easily slaughtered for whatever bogus reason is given by the psychopathic, Charles Manson killers in charge.
The reason Israel is acting like a spoiled child is the current world opinion condemning it. They just can't get it through their arrogant minds that people would have the effrontery to criticize who they consider God's Chosen Children. I think Moloch's chosen Psychopaths is closer to the point.
Zionism strikes me as belonging back in the 15th or 16th centuries. Russell Dobular, a Jew, of the podcast Due Dissidence said on the Jimmy Dore show that he hated his brief childhood stint in Hebrew school because together with the Hebrew came pro-Zionist propaganda which he despised and rejected. I'm thrown back to French Catholicism in 1550, when the Protestant Huguenots (Christians, of course) were hated and persecuted -- and the reverse situation in England, where the Anglicans sought to promote hate and eliminate Catholics from their midst. Here we have Zionists (Jews, supposedly) seeking to inculcate other Jews (like Russell) with hate and the desire to purge non-Jewish occupants of Palestine from their midst -- for the nefarious purpose of land theft.
Zionism belongs in the 16th Century. To be practicing it in the 21st --- through brainwashing American and European Jews and murdering indigenous people (as European settlers did in the Americas beginning in the 15th/16th Centuries) is a throwback. Completely unsuitable and inappropriate to modernity.
If this historical justification is all you can find for ending this madness, for silencing Zionism, I pity you --- But I'll take it because any excuse to send Zionism back into the bowels of history -- be it 2000 BCE or 1550 AD is useful. Simply because, as Russ Dobular discovered ZIONISM IS POISON.
It's nationalism, as I tediously wrote before. While forms of tribalism have always existed (as far as I know), nationalism did not really get going in terms of oppression and slaughter until the 19th century, and especially the 20th, when weapons and media were both industrialized and millions upon millions were killed, maimed, terrorized, enslaved, tortured, raped, and whatever else you can think of. The Israelis have some catching up to do if they're ambitious. The US is said to have killed two million civilians in Vietnam, for instance.
The attitude of the jewish woman expressed against Palestinians is exactly why the US should not be involved, if Israel wants to live by the sword they should die by the sword. Let them fight their own wars against the Arab world.
«… Asked if she believes human rights are not universal and should not apply equally to everyone, Weiss replied “That’s right.”…»
But then you need to understand that these people are so bloodthirsty that they don’t even believe in human rights of their OWN people. They are willing to crush their own Israel people like cockroaches to fight “the enemy”
Please pay attention to Michael Hudson’s take on Netanyahu as next Zelinsky, from provoking Russia to provoking Iran into war, justifying their destruction.
Certainly goes a long way to explaining why the bizarre unified action across all NATO countries to try and smear, cancel or even legally ban opposition to the Israeli savergey and genocide. They want maximum harm inflicted on these palestinian victims as bait tro draw Hezbollah and Iran into war.
I suspect devices may be already in place in strategically positioned great cities of the world pending Samsonic vengeance for israel being thoroughly obliterated by such a rain of missiles.
The Empire Files video indicates a very dire future. The pair at 6.15 - one says calmly "We should carpet bomb them", the other says, almost winking into the camera "If they throw a rocket we gonna throw one big, and - done" - plainly thinking to use a nuclear weapon. The two girls at 6.50, giggling as they say "We need to kill the Arabs". As for the 'what about North Korea' pair at 10.50 - wow they are the quintessence of ignorant 'entitlement'. She says the land "we conquered the land rightfully", and "it was empty when we got here" - exactly as white people regarded South Africa, The guy is horrible, as usual dragging up twisted versions of history "The people who kicked the Jews out [1400 years ago] were Arabs - does he not realise that Jewish people have lived in the area continuously? The ludicrous woman at 13.30 and says "would people criticise America kicking out the British - utterly failing to acknowledge that the proper comparison is with the genocide of the indigenous peoples, not arguments over which white people should rule. Zionists want us to think that Israel is not an apartheid state - but the racist boy at 3.44 says, proudly, "I am a member of Lehava", an organisation which seeks to prevent marriage between Jews and Arabs - the very first principle of Apartheid and Nazism. These comfortable middle class believers have no self knowledge, no idea that they have been indoctrinated, and certainly no conception that the actions of their government, the type of apologist response to genocide they spout, may unleash a wave of anti-semitism, the likes of which has not been seen for generations.
Our governments are so depraved that Israel gets away with it, so far. Canadian media simply ignore the slaughter or they focus on the suffering of the Israeli families who fight to get their family members back. This is insane bloodlust and merciless torture of people for what? And in one stroke, they illustrate to us here in the West how little we can do. Ants in a lab.
I want to say this is unbelievable but, unfortunately, it is all too believable. We (the US) did the same to the indigenous population if North America.
Thanks Caitlin for your perspective that is both relevant and important at this time. I’ve posted the below comment, or simi, before, but in case someone has missed it, I’m going to post it again. Forgive me if you’ve seen it and maybe even signed it already.
I had this crazy idea a few nights ago that the one thing that could maybe stop the bombing immediately, would be for Pope Francis to go to Gaza, to the Rafah Crossing and enter into Gaza with the Gazans. I believe this would change the dynamics as soon as such a visit was announced. I made a petition on change.org
If you, or anyone, you know, thinks this might work, and would like to support it , please sign and share:
I think it’s necessary to change the current dynamics and narratives that do nothing but further the death and hatred on all sides. This won’t interfere with anything else people are doing. Given the craven behavior of the western governments, it’s imperative to try think outside the box of retribution. It might not work, but maybe it's worth trying. Please sign and share if you can.
Maybe I am wrong or my statement too exagerated but I don't think there was ever 1 good thing coming out of the Vatican. It's a multi million dollar/euro sect that has caused so much pain, misery and horror worldwide over the centuries, lavishing itself in power and money. Even in WW2 it took the wrong stance (being neutral is like turning a blind eye; Jezus wasn't neutral in his judgement and actions, as I remember from my lessons in a catholic school). No, I would rather believe in a resurrection of Jezus himself than in a Vatican pope doing the right thing. But hey, maybe Francis will surprise me.
These “people” are SICK IN THE HEAD! And the really frightening thing is that they are so mentally and morally deficient that opposing them with a logical, rational argument would be like trying to scotch-tape a poster to a greasy wall or break through concrete with a shoelace. It freaking blows the mind! Same goes for their Western enablers and supporters!
The messaging tries to equate opposing Israeli military action with "anti-semitism" but only fools would believe that. MANY people of the Jewish faith oppose what Israel's military is and has been doing.
They have lost control of their narrative. 2/3 of Americans want a ceasefire, yet our psychopaths in office would have you believe we are fully behind this genocide. I for one will be at every protest & will speak out every chance i get against the real terrorists, the IDF. If anyone is interested, I watched a video on youtube called “Burning Conscience; Israeli soldiers speak out” on Alternative Focus. It is 17y old but still as relevant today.
Since when did public opinion start to matter?
It doesn't until the news gets out and they look like the stone hearted souless, merciless war criminals they are. Americans and Europeans are specialists at it.
Then they will whine that you are bringing up "ancient history". Even though the victims are living, and the same neocons are happy to dredge up historical gripes that happened hundreds of years ago (or millennia, in the case of Israel) to justify their latest aggression.
In the words of the inestimable ghoul HRC, "Does it even matter any more?"
True
Don't let him take the wind out of your sails. shame on you Feral.
Since the public started paying attention and thinking about it.
The rulers will simply ignore public opinion that they don't like.
Bastet knows that they have form.
thanks for sharing that, it lead me here: https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/about/organization
Thank you for what you are doing!!! Attending the protests and speaking out!
What Israel does is wrong, regardless of public opinion.
More so, really doesn't describe the retribution imposed on Gaza as a result of what Hamas did. I watched all those video clips and you come away with the feeling these people are indoctrinated in the same way Hitler indoctrinated the people of Germany where certain groups were perceived as inferior and deserving of death. Israel is a country that has become sick, and I only hope many, but no shown here, have avoided this hellish indoctrination. Netanyahu is a sick SOB.
Agree, Fran. Look into those eyes: they’re empty. He is completely without a soul; literally.
If I believed in demons and such, I’d say he was possessed and in need of exorcism.
And the Balfour agreement was conjured up in Britain. Not by the British public, of course. But that went a long way to the establishment of the state of Israel. At the expense of the Palestinians.
Well said. Genocide cannot be Orwellianized with morally bankrupt happt talk PR.
Scott Ritter: "What Palestine did was JUSTIFIED! What Israel did is PURE EVIL.."
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"MANY people of the Jewish faith oppose what Israel's military is and has been doing."
I don't see the evidence for this. Sure, there are exceptions, but the exception makes the rule.
What I see is a lot of Gentiles wanting to believe, against overwhelming evidence, that Jews are just like them.
I have been to a couple of very large demonstrations lately and in both there was a large contingent of Independent Jewish Voices. In any case being "just like gentiles" is not always something I would suggest we work toward either. Which is not to say that I think all gentiles support bloodthirsty war mongers, but there are certainly some issues with dominance for some, especially if they mangage to attain a position of power.
Thanks for posting this, Susan. I am always heartened to hear about some Jewish people speaking up for the Palestinians. But my personal experience is that the overwhelming number of Jews and Israelis are thoroughly brainwashed into a kind of cult-like thinking that they are, well, God's Chosen People. (That's just another way of saying they think they are better than everyone else.)
Back in 2008 when another massacre was being perpetrated against the people of the Gaza Strip ("Operation Cast Lead"), I wrote a simple letter to the editor of a local paper protesting the bombing of UN schools and other civilian infrastructure. The only criticism I levelled was at the State of Israel, not the Jewish people.
And yet, and yet, two Jewish work colleagues who I'd known for years and considered as friends completely shunned me after that. It was an eye-opener for me.
yes, I understand that experience and have had similar issues. still, I see a lot of people in the US and in Canada thinking they are better than people of colour, better than indigenous people, better than LGBTQ people, better than homeless people, better than poor people and on and on. Maybe not quite the same kind of brainwashing about the same kinds of things but still fomenting hatred for people who are perceived as less good. When the Vietnam war was happening and it was Americans doing the killing to "preserve democracy" and to "save Vietnam" from communism many Americans thought they were the good guys. I did too until I went to Paris and met a group of Vietnamese people who hated what the Americans were doing to their country. I don't know quite what to do about Jewish acquaintances who think Israel is their promised land either. But then I also don't have solutions for all those other haters. Mainly I don't want to become like them.
And what religion are most of the "bloodthirsty war mongers" in the US government? Of the few who aren't Jewish, how many received no funds from AIPAC? Let's be real here: the US is a vassal state of Israel and those wars are wars for Israel.
And every single one of those politicians who took money from them and represent a foreign government HAVE COMMITTED TREASON! I want to start a demand for the military to go arrest every fucking one of these traitors!
I understand that Israel’s behavior is bolstering those who were already antisemitic, but please don’t do that. No people is monolithic. If one judged all Americans by the behavior of our government, Americans would not be welcomed anywhere on the planet.
How big does the pile of dead Palestinian babies have to get before we stop worrying about antisemitism?
A commenter rightly pointed out the other day that American weapons manufacturers are profiting big-time from the Gaza massacre.
The bombs and warplanes are the “hard” weapons. The “soft” weapon being peddled is all of this hand-wringing about hurting the Jews’ feelings.
Exactly! Thank you for that..
Eventually more people will figure out that there are more Zionists in Israel than true Jews, and many more of both than real Israelites.
SPEAKING OF Zionists...do not forget that here in North America there are at LEAST
15 MILLION NON-JEWS who claim the tag of Zionists...largely EVANGELICAL. Will we witness any change of heart/mind amongst them --driven by Christian compassion or mercy???
What else can we expect of people who believe what powerdrunk biblical writers wrought?
Probably not.
No because their beliefs are perverse
Unfortunately, these people (and there are considerable numbers of them in the halls of congress) believe that a unified, Jewish only Israel is the final brick which will call Jesus back to judge the living and the dead, atmehich point, evangelical Christains will be physically “raptured” to heaven, while the rest of us will be subjected to the final Armegeddon and a new millennium of hell on earth followed by eternal damnation. Of course, Jews that do not convert in the final days will burn with the rest of us... however, as Zionists are a Messianic movement, it is expected that they will convert once the messiah re-arrives.
By the way, these people are stark raving mad. And they have a vast amount of control over our political systems.
yep...am fully aware of their 'aspirations' for me and themselves....and I'm inclined to think of such people as belonging to a "DEATH CULT"...thinking only of 'an afterlife'...dooming others to burn in hellfire...for a variety of unacceptable points of view (in their estimation)..absolute lunatic fringe and because the US is NOT largely a READING/scholarly culture, they are few criticisms of such clap trap.
There are more Zionists in America than anywhere. But do they want to go to Israel and live ?fuck no. The Christian fascists support Zionism so that the Apocalypse will come true. “Revelations“ so-called- is there ticket out of despair, hopelessness, idiocy, and true lunacy. read Chris Hedges of recent: Christian fascists read of approximately 50 years ago “The late Great Planet Earth“!
I would think that probably most of the Jews living in Israel-Palestine are Zionists. Would that not be obvious?
I don't think that Jews being settled in Palestine is actually the problem. Many people settle in countries that they were not born in.
The problem as I see it is that the state of Israel as curently constituted is a state for the Jews. They control the government and give themselves rights and privileges not open to non-Jews.
In other words they very obviously indoctrinate their children to see themselves as superior to their Arab neighbors whom they are taught are interior. This no doubt explains why Israel has never allowed itself to think of themselves as middle eastern, or to relate to their neighbors on an equal footing, and they will never become part of the world they inhabit.
That video was very informative. When they interview these young men and women, or teenagers what is so obvious is the degree of indoctrination they have been subjected to. These young people sound like they are not encouraged to have a mind of their own, or to think independently. They display a cult like mentality, and I see it as child abuse. When you read about the indoctrination of German youth during the era of Hitler it doesn't sound much different, especially in regard to their obvious prejudices. Also, they have been indoctrinated to hate Arabs not only Palestinians, but their other Arab neighbors and to see them as inferior, and themselves as the superior "race", and using their past in Israel, some 2000 years before , as justification for their unquestionable right to remove Arabs from their homeland. I'm afraid that this will end badly.
Isn't it a bit strange that they are claiming that the Palestinians are doing this very thing to their children against the Jews! This is a crazy idea to begin with since any Palestinian child could see reality and not need to be told it was happening!
Why would a Jew want to live in occupied Palestine?
Israel is a military dictatorship with the illusion of being a democracy to cover its ass.
I dunno, apartheid South Africa was fairly democratic.
If you were white. For the the remaining 80% or so of the population, not so much.
You could not be more right!!! LISTEN TO THIS WOMAN to learn just how bad things are in Israel Efrat Fenigson
https://efrat.substack.com/p/under-the-guise-of-war-israel-government?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=n3tj&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Want to know where brnjamine and judah r? Palrstine. Dna matches
It is just as well that you didn't give references since they'd be just as illegible.
Haha. U dont have the need to know
Maybe many do, and lets hope so, but what you see in terms of spin is that the criticism of Israel for it's barbaric action which is targeting the Palestinians, out of Gaza, or into extinction is anti-Semitic spin. Sickening at this point and used for decades to justify their atrocities.
So unless those Israeli people actively depose the current evil government murdering innocents, they too become a legitimate military targets? Seems to be a vicious circle doesn't it?
Netanyahu stated he intends on "cleansing" Jewish citizens! They were very close to a civil war because everyone there knows what a Zionist nut job he is and the laws he was attempting to make. This attack was indeed their 911 planned and executed by the government!
But NOT ENOUGH
not enough of anyone supports peace. There are plenty of non jews who support what Netanyahyu is doing in Gaza. It is all stomach turning and depressing
There are a surprising amount of non Jews supporting the Israelis actions in Gaza at the moment. The anti Muslim refugee rhetoric has been flourishing for a decade or so now. Contrast this with the welcoming of Ukrainian refugees, (some of whom are Muslims, but it doesn’t seem to count in this instance), and only one word can explain the difference. Racism. Peddled to the masses, especially those on the far right, and practiced by the governments of the west.
People are easily manipulated by media. Also, Islam is a real threat to the West. The stated goal and the history of Islam is conquest. All those Islamic countries used to have other religions, you know. That's the future of Europe and the Anglosphere and it's not a pretty one.
Glenn beck has falltn
This truth is so hidden that I am unsure what you mean.
From listening to journalists from the Middle East including from Palestine and Israel I learned Netanyahu was close to having a civil war before this happened. He has the want to kill (cleanse) even Jewish citizens in Israel! The big portion of this Zionist government was and still is under attack by the citizens who he was just like the scum here in the US making laws against them.
1. As long as the United States is Israel's faithful simpleton companion, Israel's talking points will be dutifully amplified, no matter how absurd.
2. Israel knows that, if narrative fails, it can always rely on brute force, delivered by its American buttboi.
The “U.S. “ is a zombie invaded and controlled financially and politically by Israelis and dual citizens with Israeli passports who see themselves as Israeli first AND last:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4254384-brian-mast-israeli-military-uniform-capitol-hill/amp/
He who pays the piper calls the tune. Israel it aint
You’ll find that a tiny handful of oligarchs and their companies in the US, as you put it: “pay the piper” . And a great many of the piper payers are either Israeli dual citizens or US based zionists.
I'm aware of that. I don't care about their citizenship, which is something of a vacuous PR-style fiction anyway, really suitable only for politicians.
3. Israel will discover nuclear disasters off its coastline that used to be nuclear aircraft carriers before they were sunk by hypersonic missiles from Russia and/or China in defense of their Iranian partners.
A nuclear strike on a US carrier group would most definitely be the start of WW3, I would expect ICBMs to target the black sea ports if that happened. Once ICBMs fly we are all on the road to hell.
Anyone not living within the blast effects of nuclear weapons would have only fallout to deal with for a handful of weeks. It wouldn't be anything like what Gazans are dealing with.
you clearly do not understand nuclear fallout or the effects of radiation which last for hundreds of years. People who got radiated 50 or so years ago for various reasons, usually medical, got cancer 30 or more years later. Nuclear would be the beginning of the end for all of us
Fallout - you can't be serious ... in this case I would envy the Gazans (being incinerated and gone, whereas the 'fallout' victims die of radiation sickness ... not that we would not deserve it for LETTING THIS CATASTROPHE happen!)
So why the hell would America set itself up for that? Who are intimidating in the Near East? Those ships need to leave ASAP.
The MICIMATT complex isn't interested in anything but profits and it supplies the hardware and pays the prosecutors of the wars. Most Americans are too busy watching fictional television and social media to care.
What's it got to do with Iran?
The entire Hamas attack was a joint false flag operation between Israel and the US, 1) justifying Israel genocide of Gaza, 2) justifying a US war with Syria and Iran as a southern front on the war against Russia, its all interconnected.
Most likely, but we will not know for sure until decades later after it is too late and the historical narrative is captured.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying - this is the product of an overactive imagination. You have no evidence that this was a "false flag" operation; none whatever.
Israel wants the United States to make war on Iran on Israel's behalf.
Yes, EXACTLY LIKE IRAQ. Israel is the United States, pitbull Rottweiler, Doberman, coyote, and a replica of American mercilessness, souless indiscriminate violence for the sake of power at all costs. That’s why they love the state of Israel and its right wing war criminal government, and why the only Israeli president that wanted peace was allowed to be assassinated right before a signing of the deal. They think we’re stupid. We know this stuff.
Iran, Russia, and China are members of a mutual defense pact entering into years ago. An attack on one is an attack on all.
Russia has the only hypersonic ICBMs on the planet and they would reach Minot, Cheyenne, and Great Falls before we could launch a retaliatory strike if their sovereignty was breached.
Don't fantasize that US weapons systems are so inferior that they cannot respond and create nuclear Armageddon. Russia missiles are fast but the US would still launch.
Not much really except that the US is dragging them into a war. As it is US warships are sitting in the Mediterranean Sea pointing at Iran.
Yes, I know that. But the US has yet to take military action against Iran. And even if it did I'm not sure that missiles would be launched from the Med. And furthermore I really don't think that Russia would attack a US carrier group. The man is talking utter nonsense.
And China? Come off it!!
Iran has been on Americas shopping list of countries to invade since 9/11. Why are the American aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines parked up in the Med? Along with the British navy? It’s not to establish air superiority over Hamas, is it? Israel has an army big enough, and well armed enough, to take care of Gaza, and any skirmishes with Lebanon all on its own. The US is after bigger fish to fry. That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s an admitted fact by officials from the W Bush administration.
Oh yeah, in fact I think the Hamas attack was a false flag pretext to justify invading Syria and Iran creating a southern front on the war with Russia. Bigger fish to fry is right and is really the driver of all of it.
The Israelis (Zionists) quoted and remarked upon in this article and in many others are simply showing us the logical consequences of nationalism. The Nazi philosopher Carl Schmitt explicated this a long time ago: what matters is what group, tribe, set, family, nation you belong to. Humans are fighting animals; therefore, they must fight, and whatever set loses dies and does not propagate its kind. Given the historical experience of European Jews, many of them would have to answer Rodney King's famous question, "Can't we all just get along?" with "Apparently not." The logical consequence of this conclusion is what we observe in Gaza. Of course there are other philosophies, other ideologies, and the one described by Schmitt leads to such impracticalities as the war of all against all or its Hobbesian antidote, a monarchical or fascistic Sovereign. Most Americans theoretically prefer liberalism and would have a more positive answer to Rodney King's question. In short, they're liberals. So their abject submission to the proposed theory of the absolute Sovereign now being exercised in practice is most curious. That seems to shock people; but it's not all that shocking when you get down to brass tacks, as they say. When you put all your cards on the table.
The US is a fascist military state with a fake democracy draped over it, they use the pretext of concern for humanity in liberalism as excuses to commit war crimes. Many people see themselves as liberals and the foolish ones think their government agrees with them.
The thing is when PM starts talking about Amalek you can safely conclude that something has changed in the Israel PR strategy. Sure you can get random idiots to say honest things that make them look disgusting for no reason, but not Netanyahu. There some *reason* he's doing that, and my guess is it's a deliberate effort to humiliate the US into coughing up more to bribe Egypt into taking all the gazans.
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"Our race is the master race! We are divine God's on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. Other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Our Destiny is to Rule over the inferior races, the masses will lick our feet and serve as Our Slaves!" - Menachem Begin, founder of the Likud
This is their belief Zionist and jews alike. Everything else is propaganda. They play the Victim card with lies of Anti semitism and Holocaust but Arabs are Semites. Jews were mearly a percentage of people in the holocaust and this is why.
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Where we are taught to hate there will be hate and the wars that follow. I live in a multicultural community where everybody gets along fine. In my last job there were people from 27 countries of every race and color, everybody got along well . The employer was diligent in maintaining a positive work place and trouble makers got the boot. I can easily see that political provocateurs could destroy this equilibrium but fortunately we have a level of prosperity that everybody wants to sustain and we have a civil government provincially that does not promote the hate and bigotry our federal government does.
Governments like Israel and the USA promote hatred and bigotry in order to justify their violent war agendas. After a half century of imperial wars the populations of the West are well indoctrinated to hating others. Hate and violence have been internalized into our cultures and politicians are chiefly responsible, as is the media.
The fact that this genocide is happening so flagrantly takes the measure of just how far the political cultures of these two countries has fallen . It also takes the measure how cowardly the NATO vassal states are as they silently condone this atrocity. Canada has been a blind supporter of Israel. Now Canadians are waking up to the Palestinian reality and our totally incompetent government is de- legitimized even further.
We are seeing now what happens when democracy is left to collapse and fascism prevails .
The USA and Israel are turning themselves into global pariah states. We are frozen in time and place until such time as world peace and civility are restored. Progressive and positive change can only take place where there is equilibrium and civility . If there is ever time we cannot afford war it is now. If there is ever a time when we must insist on peace it is now.
Why aren’t you my neighbour? You are so blessed.
"Governments like Israel and the USA promote hatred and bigotry in order to justify their violent war agendas. ... Hate and violence have been internalized into our cultures and politicians are chiefly responsible, as is the media."
And yet they inoculate themselves by (among a dozen other contradictions) jumping out front in preaching *against* hate.
Samuel Huntington was right: There is now a great "clash of civilizations". But it's becoming very clear that the one that matters, the one that now (in the anachronistic phrasing) "tries men's souls", is not the West vs Islam -- it's the West vs Neocons-Zionism, in which the latter has permanently martial mindset, and is only too happy to flush the West's Enlightenment down the toilet while singing its praises. Sometimes unwittingly, too often disingenuously.
Most of the rest of us have only begun to wake up. But the threatening "hot" version of American Civil War II, going beyond the now 22-year-long hybrid war of TPTB against Americans, is not going to divide red-blue the way the Neocons-Zionists think it will. It will be a lot more lopsided, and not in their favor. For example, the "inexplicably" growing number of MAGA POCs, as well as Matt Gaetz, MTG, and other "extreme" Republicans teaming with AOC and The Squad to release Julian Assange, are just two of a number of examples of these expanding "crossovers", disparaged in MSM as "nutcases thinking alike".
The big lie here is Israel pretending it is blameless as an occupying power. That it is the victim. A very classic abuser argument. The abuser blaming the victim for their abuse. And in this case, the abuse is an actual ongoing genocide.
It's disappointing too that the latest Arab world summit has led to nothing. So the world is just going to stand by and watch the mass murder continue. Doing nothing devalues all our humanity - human life becomes expendable - human rights become meaningless. And soon they'll be coming for you and your children. The law of the jungle turns us all into savages - human life becomes worthless, easily slaughtered for whatever bogus reason is given by the psychopathic, Charles Manson killers in charge.
Bravo! Nothing good will come of this well documented genocide.
The reason Israel is acting like a spoiled child is the current world opinion condemning it. They just can't get it through their arrogant minds that people would have the effrontery to criticize who they consider God's Chosen Children. I think Moloch's chosen Psychopaths is closer to the point.
Zionism strikes me as belonging back in the 15th or 16th centuries. Russell Dobular, a Jew, of the podcast Due Dissidence said on the Jimmy Dore show that he hated his brief childhood stint in Hebrew school because together with the Hebrew came pro-Zionist propaganda which he despised and rejected. I'm thrown back to French Catholicism in 1550, when the Protestant Huguenots (Christians, of course) were hated and persecuted -- and the reverse situation in England, where the Anglicans sought to promote hate and eliminate Catholics from their midst. Here we have Zionists (Jews, supposedly) seeking to inculcate other Jews (like Russell) with hate and the desire to purge non-Jewish occupants of Palestine from their midst -- for the nefarious purpose of land theft.
Zionism belongs in the 16th Century. To be practicing it in the 21st --- through brainwashing American and European Jews and murdering indigenous people (as European settlers did in the Americas beginning in the 15th/16th Centuries) is a throwback. Completely unsuitable and inappropriate to modernity.
If this historical justification is all you can find for ending this madness, for silencing Zionism, I pity you --- But I'll take it because any excuse to send Zionism back into the bowels of history -- be it 2000 BCE or 1550 AD is useful. Simply because, as Russ Dobular discovered ZIONISM IS POISON.
It's nationalism, as I tediously wrote before. While forms of tribalism have always existed (as far as I know), nationalism did not really get going in terms of oppression and slaughter until the 19th century, and especially the 20th, when weapons and media were both industrialized and millions upon millions were killed, maimed, terrorized, enslaved, tortured, raped, and whatever else you can think of. The Israelis have some catching up to do if they're ambitious. The US is said to have killed two million civilians in Vietnam, for instance.
The attitude of the jewish woman expressed against Palestinians is exactly why the US should not be involved, if Israel wants to live by the sword they should die by the sword. Let them fight their own wars against the Arab world.
The crux of the matter is this/
«… Asked if she believes human rights are not universal and should not apply equally to everyone, Weiss replied “That’s right.”…»
But then you need to understand that these people are so bloodthirsty that they don’t even believe in human rights of their OWN people. They are willing to crush their own Israel people like cockroaches to fight “the enemy”
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters
At which point you understand they are not merely misguided or rabid. They are pure evil and a danger to humanity itself.
You don't know just how right you are: Efrat Fenigson
https://efrat.substack.com/p/israel-hamas-war-2nd-update?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1148466&post_id=137783485&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=n3tj
God’s Word is true and trustworthy.. See many examples from Old Testament into the New that Israel has fallen deeply away from God’s sovereign
And righteous convenant. They’ve embraced satanic evil relying on the obscene and hateful passages from the Talmud, not God inspired, but
By fallen, broken man.
Please pay attention to Michael Hudson’s take on Netanyahu as next Zelinsky, from provoking Russia to provoking Iran into war, justifying their destruction.
Certainly goes a long way to explaining why the bizarre unified action across all NATO countries to try and smear, cancel or even legally ban opposition to the Israeli savergey and genocide. They want maximum harm inflicted on these palestinian victims as bait tro draw Hezbollah and Iran into war.
I suspect devices may be already in place in strategically positioned great cities of the world pending Samsonic vengeance for israel being thoroughly obliterated by such a rain of missiles.
I hope you're right, re Iran.
The Empire Files video indicates a very dire future. The pair at 6.15 - one says calmly "We should carpet bomb them", the other says, almost winking into the camera "If they throw a rocket we gonna throw one big, and - done" - plainly thinking to use a nuclear weapon. The two girls at 6.50, giggling as they say "We need to kill the Arabs". As for the 'what about North Korea' pair at 10.50 - wow they are the quintessence of ignorant 'entitlement'. She says the land "we conquered the land rightfully", and "it was empty when we got here" - exactly as white people regarded South Africa, The guy is horrible, as usual dragging up twisted versions of history "The people who kicked the Jews out [1400 years ago] were Arabs - does he not realise that Jewish people have lived in the area continuously? The ludicrous woman at 13.30 and says "would people criticise America kicking out the British - utterly failing to acknowledge that the proper comparison is with the genocide of the indigenous peoples, not arguments over which white people should rule. Zionists want us to think that Israel is not an apartheid state - but the racist boy at 3.44 says, proudly, "I am a member of Lehava", an organisation which seeks to prevent marriage between Jews and Arabs - the very first principle of Apartheid and Nazism. These comfortable middle class believers have no self knowledge, no idea that they have been indoctrinated, and certainly no conception that the actions of their government, the type of apologist response to genocide they spout, may unleash a wave of anti-semitism, the likes of which has not been seen for generations.
Frighteningly similar to the current state of mind of the indoctrinated American public. Very scary!!
Our governments are so depraved that Israel gets away with it, so far. Canadian media simply ignore the slaughter or they focus on the suffering of the Israeli families who fight to get their family members back. This is insane bloodlust and merciless torture of people for what? And in one stroke, they illustrate to us here in the West how little we can do. Ants in a lab.
I want to say this is unbelievable but, unfortunately, it is all too believable. We (the US) did the same to the indigenous population if North America.
Thanks Caitlin for your perspective that is both relevant and important at this time. I’ve posted the below comment, or simi, before, but in case someone has missed it, I’m going to post it again. Forgive me if you’ve seen it and maybe even signed it already.
I had this crazy idea a few nights ago that the one thing that could maybe stop the bombing immediately, would be for Pope Francis to go to Gaza, to the Rafah Crossing and enter into Gaza with the Gazans. I believe this would change the dynamics as soon as such a visit was announced. I made a petition on change.org
If you, or anyone, you know, thinks this might work, and would like to support it , please sign and share:
https://chng.it/tfYb2DjFDy
I think it’s necessary to change the current dynamics and narratives that do nothing but further the death and hatred on all sides. This won’t interfere with anything else people are doing. Given the craven behavior of the western governments, it’s imperative to try think outside the box of retribution. It might not work, but maybe it's worth trying. Please sign and share if you can.
Maybe I am wrong or my statement too exagerated but I don't think there was ever 1 good thing coming out of the Vatican. It's a multi million dollar/euro sect that has caused so much pain, misery and horror worldwide over the centuries, lavishing itself in power and money. Even in WW2 it took the wrong stance (being neutral is like turning a blind eye; Jezus wasn't neutral in his judgement and actions, as I remember from my lessons in a catholic school). No, I would rather believe in a resurrection of Jezus himself than in a Vatican pope doing the right thing. But hey, maybe Francis will surprise me.
I don't think you are wrong about the Vatican, but I think the Pope going to Gaza would create quite a stir among many and it might help, who knows?
It sure would, I have no doubt about that.
But again, I see Jesus rising sooner than the Pope would make this gesture of mercy, without political or financial ulterior motives
I don’t think the IsraHellis would give a flying fuck if they bombed the Pope.
Please sign, if you haven't already. Let's see if we can get him there. If that dynamic could occur, I think we can't know what might come of it.
These “people” are SICK IN THE HEAD! And the really frightening thing is that they are so mentally and morally deficient that opposing them with a logical, rational argument would be like trying to scotch-tape a poster to a greasy wall or break through concrete with a shoelace. It freaking blows the mind! Same goes for their Western enablers and supporters!
I wish you wouldn’t have Netanyahu’s face all over the feature; the man scares me and I’d rather not have to look at him.