The entire Hamas attack was a joint false flag operation between Israel and the US, 1) justifying Israel genocide of Gaza, 2) justifying a US war with Syria and Iran as a southern front on the war against Russia, its all interconnected.
We already have the proof I have shown it many times. Richard Medhurst showed a leaked presentation Netanyahu gave 2 weeks before the planned attack in Oct! It shows exactly this and how they will steal the Palestinians resources and Iran's and of course they already are stealing from Syria!
Interesting. I did see the leaked report of the US military base being developed outside of Gaza weeks prior. Nothing is ever as it seems with those who have power.
I also want to state once again that the people's family members who were taken hostage were saying that for instance one man stated his mother was taken and get this that whole area where she lived is close to the border and most of those people are avid supporters of the Palestinians! These are people who are against the Zionist pig Netanyahu! The IDF unloaded into this area with Apache helo's and tanks. This is where a large portion of his opposition was and before this he was on his way out!
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying - this is the product of an overactive imagination. You have no evidence that this was a "false flag" operation; none whatever.
To believe Israeli narratives, the October 7 attack was a *complete surprise ZOMG nobody coulda knowed ZOMG" but now Israel has granular access to Hamas communications, which are also broadcast in clear for Israel's convenience and the convenience of its audience.
I am not convinced that October 7 was a complete surprise, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but the Israeli narrative doesn't add up.
For sure: Israel was warned by Jordan and Egypt this was about to happen. Consider how well Israel is armed....then, also true, Israel has used Hamas before plus Netanyahu was very unpopular because of his hard right stance and supporting Orthodox Jews. Jewish Israelis were protesting in the streets against him before the attack. Work it out for your self and read more.
No. And I find your condescending attitude insulting madam.
These are the facts. Netanyahu's regime tacitly supported (ie tolerated) Hamas. And Hamas was funded by Qatar.
Netanyahu, as reported by Haaretz in March 2019, said that the existence and success of Hamas in Gaza made the foudation of a Palestinian state far less likely; which is why they tolerated it.
Hamas has been funded by Israel for decades, they have made public statements about it. ISIS in Syria is also a CIA funded terror group and joined in attacking Israel from Syria.
There’s a couple of points you make that we could have a discussion about. Netanyahu making funding of unimaginable amounts of money available to Hamas, and not just from Qatar, being one. That’s a large can of worms. But tell me, how did one the most protected borders on the planet, built to detect a fox being nearby, fail so spectacularly, despite advanced warnings from Egypt about an attack being imminent. And even then, why did the IDF not respond for hours. Several hours! Are you not in the least suspicious about that story? Cos if you can swallow that, you could swallow a brick!
You are right John, but there’s a kind of snarky mob mentality that operates at this site sometimes that is more interested in “winning” (ala Charlie Sheen) than learning.
I’m surprised at your remark, Jeano. A group of people standing up for their beliefs and disagreeing with opposing views is not “mob mentality”. It’s simple discourse.
And yes,anntiZionists are in the majority here. If we weren’t, it’s doubtful we’d be reading Caitlin.
Believe what you want, thats what propaganda is intended to do, control your doubts.
Both nations have a long history of executing false flags for their own benefit and lying to the public. The Hamas attack makes no sense for Palestine or Hamas, it only served Israel and the US. I am not going to work at convincing you of what is an obvious truth to me.
Possible opportunity knocked. As in 9/11 More reasonable explanation. A good excuse to institute their final solution, salivating over it as they were- waiting in the wings.
Exactly, they knew it was coming, knew what was going to happen and had the propaganda machine prepared. All the horrible things they promoted like babies were propaganda designed to increase the world wide outrage.
Yeah, does babies being tossed on the floor in hospitals from incubators in Kuwait ring a bell? That was a big bunch of shit and a big lie to support the invasion of Kuwait, and then kill the Iraqi soldiers as they were retreating on the highway of death back to Baghdad.
Taibbi and Kern talked about Arab men not liking modernity . The problem the Arab men have with the West is the fatuous idea of Total destruction to win and absolute and complete lack of mercy for the enemy. The Israelis are mostly Europeans. Those people weren’t freaking born there -they immigrated there and they have the European penchant for mercilessness killing, slaughter and power until the enemy is completely Without life, limb, resources or anything -and we Americans are descended mostly from them so we have that same mindset, which is why so much fucking killing happens in America. We’re just a violent bunch of vacuous human shells. Empty of heart and devoid of anything approaching decency. COUNT ON IT. POWER AT ALLLLLLL COSTS.
It is a product of understanding history and applying reasonable deductions. What he said may or may not be true, but it is certainly possible. Israel has a long history of false flags, as does the US. Not much can be trusted. Hamas, has been and remains a tool of the mossad.
It is more of a stretch to say hamas acted independently and managed to escape the human terrain systems that Israel has ( like nexus 7) and delivered a successful attack on October 7th than it is to say that the power fomented the conflict by its own proxies via false flag.
To call this a product of an overactive imagination is a sign of demonstrable naivete.
You are wrong and need to get your info from the people who are on the wrong side of the Criminal Elite not from the US or it's bought and paid for Journalists!
The entire Hamas attack was a joint false flag operation between Israel and the US, 1) justifying Israel genocide of Gaza, 2) justifying a US war with Syria and Iran as a southern front on the war against Russia, its all interconnected.
Most likely, but we will not know for sure until decades later after it is too late and the historical narrative is captured.
And the US is already bombing Syria. Is that story in your news?
We already have the proof I have shown it many times. Richard Medhurst showed a leaked presentation Netanyahu gave 2 weeks before the planned attack in Oct! It shows exactly this and how they will steal the Palestinians resources and Iran's and of course they already are stealing from Syria!
Interesting. I did see the leaked report of the US military base being developed outside of Gaza weeks prior. Nothing is ever as it seems with those who have power.
I also want to state once again that the people's family members who were taken hostage were saying that for instance one man stated his mother was taken and get this that whole area where she lived is close to the border and most of those people are avid supporters of the Palestinians! These are people who are against the Zionist pig Netanyahu! The IDF unloaded into this area with Apache helo's and tanks. This is where a large portion of his opposition was and before this he was on his way out!
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying - this is the product of an overactive imagination. You have no evidence that this was a "false flag" operation; none whatever.
To believe Israeli narratives, the October 7 attack was a *complete surprise ZOMG nobody coulda knowed ZOMG" but now Israel has granular access to Hamas communications, which are also broadcast in clear for Israel's convenience and the convenience of its audience.
I am not convinced that October 7 was a complete surprise, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but the Israeli narrative doesn't add up.
Half correct.
For sure: Israel was warned by Jordan and Egypt this was about to happen. Consider how well Israel is armed....then, also true, Israel has used Hamas before plus Netanyahu was very unpopular because of his hard right stance and supporting Orthodox Jews. Jewish Israelis were protesting in the streets against him before the attack. Work it out for your self and read more.
Jenny, they were protesting the loss of their Supreme Court, not because they were opposed to his other right wing policies.
That's not what I read.
They were protesting his right wing policy's too.
Jenny, what Jeano said was the truth.
No. And I find your condescending attitude insulting madam.
These are the facts. Netanyahu's regime tacitly supported (ie tolerated) Hamas. And Hamas was funded by Qatar.
Netanyahu, as reported by Haaretz in March 2019, said that the existence and success of Hamas in Gaza made the foudation of a Palestinian state far less likely; which is why they tolerated it.
Until October 7th.
Hamas has been funded by Israel for decades, they have made public statements about it. ISIS in Syria is also a CIA funded terror group and joined in attacking Israel from Syria.
There’s a couple of points you make that we could have a discussion about. Netanyahu making funding of unimaginable amounts of money available to Hamas, and not just from Qatar, being one. That’s a large can of worms. But tell me, how did one the most protected borders on the planet, built to detect a fox being nearby, fail so spectacularly, despite advanced warnings from Egypt about an attack being imminent. And even then, why did the IDF not respond for hours. Several hours! Are you not in the least suspicious about that story? Cos if you can swallow that, you could swallow a brick!
You are right John, but there’s a kind of snarky mob mentality that operates at this site sometimes that is more interested in “winning” (ala Charlie Sheen) than learning.
I’m surprised at your remark, Jeano. A group of people standing up for their beliefs and disagreeing with opposing views is not “mob mentality”. It’s simple discourse.
And yes,anntiZionists are in the majority here. If we weren’t, it’s doubtful we’d be reading Caitlin.
The Charlie Sheen reference has me stumped, I’m afraid. Did I miss something?
We are on the right wavelength Che. Messages got mixed up here but not all Israelis are complicit.
Believe what you want, thats what propaganda is intended to do, control your doubts.
Both nations have a long history of executing false flags for their own benefit and lying to the public. The Hamas attack makes no sense for Palestine or Hamas, it only served Israel and the US. I am not going to work at convincing you of what is an obvious truth to me.
Possible opportunity knocked. As in 9/11 More reasonable explanation. A good excuse to institute their final solution, salivating over it as they were- waiting in the wings.
Exactly, they knew it was coming, knew what was going to happen and had the propaganda machine prepared. All the horrible things they promoted like babies were propaganda designed to increase the world wide outrage.
Yeah, does babies being tossed on the floor in hospitals from incubators in Kuwait ring a bell? That was a big bunch of shit and a big lie to support the invasion of Kuwait, and then kill the Iraqi soldiers as they were retreating on the highway of death back to Baghdad.
Taibbi and Kern talked about Arab men not liking modernity . The problem the Arab men have with the West is the fatuous idea of Total destruction to win and absolute and complete lack of mercy for the enemy. The Israelis are mostly Europeans. Those people weren’t freaking born there -they immigrated there and they have the European penchant for mercilessness killing, slaughter and power until the enemy is completely Without life, limb, resources or anything -and we Americans are descended mostly from them so we have that same mindset, which is why so much fucking killing happens in America. We’re just a violent bunch of vacuous human shells. Empty of heart and devoid of anything approaching decency. COUNT ON IT. POWER AT ALLLLLLL COSTS.
It is a product of understanding history and applying reasonable deductions. What he said may or may not be true, but it is certainly possible. Israel has a long history of false flags, as does the US. Not much can be trusted. Hamas, has been and remains a tool of the mossad.
It is more of a stretch to say hamas acted independently and managed to escape the human terrain systems that Israel has ( like nexus 7) and delivered a successful attack on October 7th than it is to say that the power fomented the conflict by its own proxies via false flag.
To call this a product of an overactive imagination is a sign of demonstrable naivete.
Scott Ritter, a far more well informed and able reasoner than notbob agrees with you John.
I find this insulting Madam!
You are wrong and need to get your info from the people who are on the wrong side of the Criminal Elite not from the US or it's bought and paid for Journalists!
Can you link to your sources? I believe you but nobody else will believe me without evidence.