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Melissa Campanella's avatar

They have lost control of their narrative. 2/3 of Americans want a ceasefire, yet our psychopaths in office would have you believe we are fully behind this genocide. I for one will be at every protest & will speak out every chance i get against the real terrorists, the IDF. If anyone is interested, I watched a video on youtube called “Burning Conscience; Israeli soldiers speak out” on Alternative Focus. It is 17y old but still as relevant today.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Since when did public opinion start to matter?

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Bernadene Zennie's avatar

It doesn't until the news gets out and they look like the stone hearted souless, merciless war criminals they are. Americans and Europeans are specialists at it.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Then they will whine that you are bringing up "ancient history". Even though the victims are living, and the same neocons are happy to dredge up historical gripes that happened hundreds of years ago (or millennia, in the case of Israel) to justify their latest aggression.

In the words of the inestimable ghoul HRC, "Does it even matter any more?"

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Bernadene Zennie's avatar

Oh yes,HRC- she of the infamous souless remark seeing Gadaffi being sodomized on film “we came, we saw, he died“. Ghoul- good word for her.

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Fran's avatar

Don't let him take the wind out of your sails. shame on you Feral.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Do you want me to sell sunshine, to tell comforting lies?

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Fran's avatar

I believe people should try to make a difference. I was active, as I said many times, during the anti-war movement, which bore no fruit, as they say. I still call out representatives even from other states for the things they say, like I recently called Lindsay Graham for his hawkish rhetoric. Will it make a difference, probably not, but I did what I thought was right, and I never feel that because my efforts often bear no fruit, all was in vain. Never!

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Feral Finster's avatar

I am not suggesting that you not do any of these things.

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Susan T's avatar

We all do what we can and it may not always be the same as what someone else does

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Divine test alert. You are doing well

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Fran's avatar

Also I see trying to do the right thing even if it bears no fruit, makes you a better person, healthier. I watched those clips and I don't think I ever truly realized how sick Israel as country has become. Hopefully the people shown here are radical in their beliefs and don't represent the majority, but who knows. Not to say America doesn't need a lot of fixing.

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BJ's avatar

The most important thing in life is always doing the right thing! I too have been chastised my entire life for caring so much!!! Don't stop!

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Bernadene Zennie's avatar

Israel did not “become“, it always had been. YOU are just more informed. The state was formed in war crimes, and has always been in war crimes. It is a war criminal instituted entity for the West. The state was formed in war crimes, and has always been in war crimes. It is a war criminal instituted entity for the west.

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Vonu's avatar

Since the public started paying attention and thinking about it.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The rulers will simply ignore public opinion that they don't like.

Bastet knows that they have form.

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Vonu's avatar

Is that why they ignore the elections?

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hierochloe's avatar

thanks for sharing that, it lead me here: https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/about/organization

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BJ's avatar

Thank you for what you are doing!!! Attending the protests and speaking out!

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Feral Finster's avatar

What Israel does is wrong, regardless of public opinion.

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Feral Finster's avatar

When public opinion supports or can be made to support the rulers;' preferred policy, then they are all for public opinion. When public opinion does not give the rulers what they want to hear, it is ignored.

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Feral Finster's avatar

What makes you so sure?

That is, BTW, an honest question.

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Fran's avatar

More so, really doesn't describe the retribution imposed on Gaza as a result of what Hamas did. I watched all those video clips and you come away with the feeling these people are indoctrinated in the same way Hitler indoctrinated the people of Germany where certain groups were perceived as inferior and deserving of death. Israel is a country that has become sick, and I only hope many, but no shown here, have avoided this hellish indoctrination. Netanyahu is a sick SOB.

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gypsy33's avatar

Agree, Fran. Look into those eyes: they’re empty. He is completely without a soul; literally.

If I believed in demons and such, I’d say he was possessed and in need of exorcism.

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Fran's avatar

He's a self serving fanatic, a profoundly narcissistic SOB, and a Fascist. I saw a Front line show covering Obama's presidency when he wanted to implement the Iran deal, and Netanyahu went to the White House to visit Obama and he acted like he owned the place. He has no sense of boundaries what so ever, and the US government has really supported this SOB. Ironic that the Jewish people basically took over Palestine after WWII due to the Holocaust, then implemented one of their own, the Nakba, then you have someone running the show who is implementing a Holocaust of his own in the name of the Jewish people. Sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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gypsy33's avatar

👏👏👏

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Fran's avatar

Thanks.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Whrn you find out that hitler was ashienazi=aryan and bolshrvik leaders were all ashkenazi....

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Fran's avatar

You'll have to clarify your statement,

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Fran's avatar

If you didn't have the US supporting them, and justifying what they do, maybe they would back off. However, I was surprised by the degree to which they have been indoctrinated and whose purpose is to cut off thinking. They sound like religious zealots. Watch those clips, really informative, and interesting in a macabre way. Their leader is a nut job and he needs to be ousted, since he flames an agenda of radicalism, and has zero capacity to be able to relate to his neighbors whom he obviously sees as his inferiors, and I'm not talking solely about the Palestinians. No wonder they have never become part of the Middle Eastern world, However it didn't get off to a good start when your the recipient of another's land and feel okay about that.

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Fran's avatar

If I'm interpreting you correctly let me just say in no way do I feel the British people are significantly responsible for what the indigenous people of Palestine have endured, or what is going on now, however the US has turned a blind eye to many of Israel's atrocities, since Israel serves our interest in the Middle East. . As for all the deaths, well, people like Max Blumenthal, Scott Ritter and others say many of the Israeli civilians killed were killed by Israel's own military. As far as the massacre perpetrated by Hamas, 200 of the dead they claimed were Israeli fighters were Palestinian fighters, and the Israeli helicopters fired on fleeing Israeli citizens as well since they seemed unable to distinguish fleeing civilians from Hamas fighters. Civilians were also killed when Israel fired into houses that Israeli's were hiding in, or were being held hostage Then as they say they dropped the charges of Hamas raping women and beheading children. It's not that Hamas didn't kill people and go on the attack, but many of the casualties were due to Israeli fighters. People have said they called it a terrorist attack to cover up Israel's botched response from it's military. , 

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Kevin Maher's avatar

And the Balfour agreement was conjured up in Britain. Not by the British public, of course. But that went a long way to the establishment of the state of Israel. At the expense of the Palestinians.

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Anthony G. Gelbert's avatar

Well said. Genocide cannot be Orwellianized with morally bankrupt happt talk PR.

Scott Ritter: "What Palestine did was JUSTIFIED! What Israel did is PURE EVIL.."

https://youtu.be/4TkEioI3er4

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Kevin Maher's avatar

Those pictures tell their own story, don’t they?

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Anthony G. Gelbert's avatar

Yes they do.

Netanyahu and his Genocidal government is attempting, as usual when they are committing atrocities, to Orwell reality. The greedballs at Wall Street, despite their ethically challenged worldview, see right through him and are overwhelmingly rejecting his bold faced mendacity and veiled threats to the U.S. and Europe.

Here is a representative sampling of the comments and a link to the article:

BorgNine

We wouldn't want another 9/11 to happen to you, now would we? Heh, heh..."

up arrow = 133 down arrow = 3

MagicHandPuppet

Dear Bibi - we know you're the real villain behind 9/11

up arrow = 22 down arrow = 2

Gatoengineer

Lots of fake news, how do you bomb the crap out of a dense urban area for 5 weeks and kill only 11,000 (this is per the palestinians). Not that the chews are right mind you but the news is so slanted and the media so screwed up, impossible to tell whats real.

up arrow = 17 down arrow = 1

Sam Adams

By the way, the "Our problem is your problem" line is exactly what the dancing Israelis said after they were arrested on 9/11.

Never forget!

Hopefully they'll send some of their "students" to video document the terrorist attack like they did on 9/11.

The First rule

"You're Next"

So Israel is going to pull another 9/11, USS Liberty False Flag on us; unless we obey???

I'm really getting tired of the Tail wagging the Dog...

consitentliving

Sicker are the American 'amen choir' that follow him

November 14, 2023

Netanyahu Warns America: "You're Next" If IDF Doesn't Decimate Hamas "Barbarism"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-tells-americans-youre-next-if-idf-doesnt-defeat-hamas-barbarism

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