I lived through the Nazi experience in the 1940s and thought them cruel and hateful. But the Zionist have shown me that bad as they were they were mere apprentices to Zionism
I watched the documentary Tantura again recently - about the Palestinian seaside village - one of many - where a mass murder took place. The villagers are still buried under the car park. In the documentary I noticed something this time that I had missed before. One of these charming genocidalists from the Alexandroni Brigade said that the killing was partly revenge for what had happened to them in WWII - Palestinians of course being such a huge part of Hitler's final solution... .
If you haven't seen Tantura it's available to stream free on the Internet Archive site - just be sure the stream you choose says 'full feature'.
CJ>>"We live in a nightmare of a civilization, under an empire that is fueled by human blood. The closer you examine it, the uglier it gets."
👉This cannot be allowed to continue. It must not be allowed to continue.
👉The empire must fall.
Caitlin, even though I don't believe in God (or hell) I wish for Israelis and Zionists whatever they are doing to the Palestinians (and worse) -> they DESERVE to BURN IN HELL for ETERNITY. If this makes me a bad/evil person (and according to some it might), I really don't care!
They WILL (burn in hell) - and you're not (bad/evil)... At least not for coming to the reasonable pronouncement of the appropriate Sentence, on behalf of a wise, and moral, and loving Creator.
Thank you! Even though I don't believe in God, I PRAY, PRAY, PRAY with EVERY FIBER of my being to MAKE THIS STOP! I understand how Aaron Bushnell felt. I empathize with him. I understand how so many of us are feeling.
What I am incapable of understanding - is the level of suffering being endured by the Palestinians (and especially Gazans) - try as I might, I don't think I'm remotely close to being able to comprehend the depth of their suffering 😭😥...
After watching this daily for the past twenty months I, too, am amazed at how they can still stand, run to help where they can, carry those injured in the hope something can be done for them. All while they are being bombed, shot at by ^brave^ IOF snipers at a distance-if I could get my hands on one of them they'd wish they had never seen a rifle let alone used on--dig through the rubble of bombed homes in hope of saving someone.
All this as Israelis try to scare protesters into silence. Well, we will not be silenced, we will not stop, we will never, ever forget what you have done to an unarmed, caged by you, Palestinians simply because you want their land. You, Israel, do not deserve any land, anywhere near humans. End of.
>>"Well, we will not be silenced, we will not stop, we will never, ever forget what you have done to an unarmed, caged by you, Palestinians simply because you want their land. You, Israel, do not deserve any land, anywhere near humans. End of."
As I watch local news there is a man hero for pulling a dog from storm rubble. There is the calamity of a few houses destroyed by a tornado. People are scared of 6 inch hailstones, and too much rain ruins the holiday weekend. A car wreck on the freeway. And then I think of the superficiality of this all, and of the untold consequences of the genocide and famine, non-ending blasts,unthinkable thirst and hunger, pervasive fear, babies and children under rubble, steel bullets and concrete smashing flesh, a country, a people of 2 million being destroyed, 30 miles of complete rubble. And the gasps with our news, and that horror that is unwatchable, unspeakable, hidden, so life goes on here with our discomforts and blindfolds.
>>"...so life goes on here with our discomforts and blindfolds."
What you say is so true, and really unfortunate. Is it a flaw of human nature/psychology to be concerned primarily with one's environment and loved ones at the expense of more pressing problems in the world and for humanity? Or is it a survival mechanism of human nature/psychology in the way that it works?
Or is it BOTH? Or some combination of the two?
Interesting to think about...don't really know the answers to such questions. Well, I can certainly say that humans are complicated and contradictory in their behaviors.
What is not mutually exclusive is the ability to care for your family and community and also understand the violence that is being perpetrated in our name. What we see and hear is a consequence of massive propaganda, diversionary tactics, lies, the need to placate our peoples to keep the order ordained from above. Nightly news broadcasts such as from the battlefields in Viet Nam are now verboten. Real news can be found scattered on the Internet but main stream viewing and news print are severely restricted to a prescribed bland formula. The desperate legions behind MAGA are pulling back the curtain, a violent outcry, as opposed to an orderly process such as with B. Sanders, who is sabotaged from within our political system.
So what are real examples of this iron fisted control. Look no further than the call to war in Iraq after 911 and the patriotism manipulated by Bush and company. 911 was a Saudi attack, not Hussein in Iraq. Look no further than the overnight campaign, without national discussion, to support Ukraine and Ukraine’s potential ultimate destruction in a U.S. promoted proxy war with Russia. Look no further than the military and financial support of a Palestinian genocide and any dissent is labeled as criminal antisemitism.
People need to awaken to the horrific consequences of the actions of our government and say, no more in our name, no more in my name! How can we preach love and family values, and be so hypocritical. It is disturbing, very disturbing. What type of nation are we???
My guess is - we seem to be the type of nation that we have always been - one built on Genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, slavery, racism, oppression and exploitation, 'might is right' narratives, and more.
Maybe most of us here are (I understand that you are speaking in the abstract). But I can't attribute the same sentiment to ALL humans - definitely not to ultra-fascistic ones belonging to ideologies like Nazism and Zionism.
Unfortunately, in the eyes of much of the world, the U.S. Empire has entered this category- causing millions of deaths, many more millions displaced, disruption of democracies, bullying, life threatening sanctions, a corrupted capitalistic system that destroys our Earth and anyone that gets in the way.
Some say this is the natural order, the dominant rule and innocents die. I think we should be at a higher healthier level of consciousness and morality.
And beware, an extinction event may be on the table by nuclear war or severe climate changes. This is the time to lay down our weapons and all come together to work toward a better outcome. Some tell me I am too idealistic. We will see.
You are a TROLL Jenny Stokes - you make people like Russian_bot possibly look good. Congratulations! I didn't think something like that was ever possible.
The lady who shared your post’s response to the request for comment in the Australian is hilarious.
The whole article is good for a laugh. I enjoyed the way they kept putting the quotes at the end of each paragraph, like they’re just letting the words speak for themselves, as if they were actually unequivocally horrible statements, when most of the quotes were actually kind of awesome. 🤣 It’s amazing they couldn’t see the entire piece was a giant self-own.
That piece in The Australian is a giant self-own. They think they are naming and shaming the country’s leading anti-Zionists, but they’re actually just pointing their readers to people who are highlighting media complicity in genocide.
Emily, I can just imagine The Australian's reaction to Caitlin. Except for your description, I wouldn't know, as we have stopped buying that shameful propaganda rag from way, way back.
Wow! Thank you for the link! So Australian media/leadership is as corrupt as the US's?
Is there a link that lists the names of the members of Congress in the US who did NOT join Netanyahu's standing ovations? Americans need to know who not to include when we vote all the incumbents out in 2026.
The most disgusting and cynical of all ironies is that Israel thrives on the false accusations of antisemitism. Antisemitism, real, imagined, or invented, is the lifeblood of the Zionist entity, the state of Israel.
So, if it is anti semitic to condemn burning children alive then those who say it represents a hatred of Judaism and Jews are saying that burning children alive is a Judaic and Jewish practice and value. Can we use the word value for evil?
Luckily, these are the values of ZIONISM - and not the true values of Judaism.
Zionism is a heretical rejection of the Torah, and a rebellion against the Almighty. Zionists wish you to believe that Zionism and Judaism are synonyms - when in fact they are antonyms. Zionism is Judaism's TOXIC MIMIC. Judaism is about subservience to G-d. Zionism is a Genocidal, Ethno-Supremcist Ultra-Nationalism, which is either atheistic idolatry - or just something TRULY SATANIC, for those who believe in a deity.
Yes, I know that and I know some Jews, particularly orthodox, rejected Zionism from the start and the Zionists murdered a lot of them, and they said Israel was not a place, had never been a place, should never be a place but was a way to live.
What is interesting however is why so many Jews, including orthodox, have supported, funded, enabled and promoted Zionist Israel from the start and still do.
I agree that Judaism is about subservience to G-d. Zionism is a Genocidal, Ethno-Supremcist Ultra-Nationalism, which is either atheistic idolatry - or just something TRULY SATANIC, for those who believe in a deity..... so why in the name of Judaic ethics and human sanity have so many Jews enabled the evil that is Israel for 77 years? That is the question only Jews can answer.
I would suggest that within Jews there is a morphic force at work which creates levels of paranoia about persecution, more imagined than real, and that many have supported Israel and continue to do so because they hold the totally irrational belief that if the world turned on Jews they had somewhere to run.
Any self-proclaimed Jews or Christians who support Zionism are hypocrites, and besmirch the true believers of Christianity and Judaism. Do not conflate the terms of Christian, Jew and Zionist.
For the record, Jesus of Nazareth was a devout Jew — whether or not anyone believes in Him.
The Zionists exploit sympathy for Jews who were exterminated during WWII. They also exploit sympathy from Evangelicals who are hoping to accelerate the arrival Armageddon and the End of Days.
The fossil fuels industry wants to seize control of all petroleum and natural gas in the Levant and the rest of the Middle East.
The US defense contractors want more money to build more weapons, regardless of where such weapons go or how they will be used. It’s just good business.
The US Congress has had the ability to stop all of this nonsense since 1948. The self-proclaimed Zionist Catholic POTUS #46 continued to support genocide with the support of Congress. The real estate developer POTUS #47 has failed to deliver on his campaign promises to end the genocide, but is trying to figure out how he can get “a good deal” for himself if he does. Just business.
All too many of the MAGA cult want government to “run like a business”, and will find out how that really works. It’s like expecting a fish to climb a tree.
There is no evidence a literal Jesus ever existed let alone that he was a devout Jew. His teachings are so radically different from Judaism that it is highly unlikely he was Jewish. Palestine at the time had many different groups and religions so it is pure assumption to claim Jesus was Jewish.
Fact is there is no contemporary evidence from the Romans, Herodians or historians that Jesus ever existed. The first mention of him was made by Josephus, who was born 30 years after Jesus supposedly died and the Bible was written more than a century later.
If it makes you happy look at Christ and his crucifixion as an analogy of what the Zionists would do to anyone gaining the public ear and exposing their hypocrisy. You don't have to believe in Christ to see the parallels.
The hypocrites who feared his “disruptive” behavior asked the Romans to kill Him. Much like the Zionists of today, the hypocrites weren’t actually devout Jews.
“Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” (Matt. 16:6, Mark 8:15, Luke 12:1), “Then they (The Disciples) understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the DOCTRINE of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” (Matthew 16:12)
The Pharisees and Sadducees did not want anyone to challenge their undeserved authority.
300+ years later, the Romans established Christianity as the official religion of their empire, but did not drive out the devout Jews. Some remained in Palestine as did many of their progeny. Some converted to Christianity. Some converted to Islam after the Ottoman Empire took control of Asia Minor. Others left to seek their fortunes elsewhere.
So why don't you go and ASK them instead of pontificating in EVERY SINGLE POST and purposely conflating Jews and Judaism and Zionism into ONE thing without distinctions? You have a habit and history of doing this Roslyn Ross, and we have had arguments about it.
But you cannot help yourself. You bring it up EVERY CHANCE YOU GET - as if there is some kind of pathological need WITHIN YOU to purposefully (and surreptitiously) turn the discussion around to the SAME topic AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.
Is it possible for you to FOCUS on Palestinians more than on your intrinsic Jew-hatred? (Note here that I am NOT accusing you of anti-semitism here - which comes in many forms, but of Jew-hatred). I meant this as a rhetorical question, since I know (over multiple discussions, comments, and posts) that this (and your white-supremacy and pro-colonial stance) is something that seem to be the focus of your life.
FOCUS on PALESTINE! FOCUS on GAZA! FOCUS on bringing people together! FOCUS on nuance! FOCUS on LOVE of ALL PEOPLE, and LOVE of people of ALL COLORS and LOVE of ALL CULTURES (can I make an exception here for Israeli culture?)
So at the very least, prominent Jews who claim not to be Zionists, but do support Israel would like to have it both ways, depending on the conversation. At the most, Zionism is baked into ancient Judaism in a manner that is far beyond the ability of anyone to refute in the form of a comment at a website.
Of course it is blurred. And the Zionists LOVE that it is blurred - as this blurring, this lack of distinctions, this lack of nuance - CREATES REAL anti-semitism (we are not talking about the fake anti-semitism that is all too common).
This REAL anti-semitism enables and empowers the Zionists - as they can now truthfully claim victimhood. WHY would you want to continue to let the Zionists get away with this CHARADE of false victimhood?
Do you not understand this strategy employed by the Zionists/Israelis/supporters of Israel and Zionism/Christian Zionists/etc. ?
Do you not understand how this plays into the hands of the VERY PEOPLE that we are trying to FIGHT AGAINST and STOP?
Why enable and add fuel to the Zionist victimhood narrative?
Please read Yasha Levine's very well researched articles before we continue this conversation. If they are paywalled, that's an issue I may not be able to resolve fairly. But as a Jew himself - albeit a left-leaning non-practicing Jew - he has done the deep dives into the texts and produced his own translations of some of them. It is his contention that Zionism - insofar as the notion that Jews are promised a SPECIFIC piece of real estate on Earth (something no other religion deigns to do) - is a core part of the dominant strain of Israeli and diaspora Judaism.
I get what you're trying to say, as it isn't rocket science and I see it every day, but as Caitlyn noted, the Israelis have done more to amplify anti-Jew thought around the world than any white supremo website could ever have hoped. And as long as I (or we) are not talking about shipping Jews off to camps or hurting them, intellectual rigor requires the honest reading of the texts and juxtaposing that with the actions and words of Zionists as well as Jews who claim not to be Zionist, but "support Israel's right to exist" - a mutually incompatible set of circumstances with only one real set of solutions: Ending the state of Israel insofar as it is an ethnosupremacist Jewish state with special rights for Jews or giving the Palestinians their own country on land currently controlled by the Zionists. The first step down that road is ascertaining what actual diaspora Jews and the governments in countries where they live and have influence are willing to say or do about it.
Just the fact that there are so many Christian Zionists should tell people this has nothing to do with Judaism or Christianity. It is all about greed and personal advancement.
I agree and thanks for the links they are excellent. Well, I have not read them carefully nor processed but a first quick read suggests they are excellent.
I do not think there is any doubt that Zionism is sourced in Judaism and that is why it has had so much appeal to Jews.
In psychological terms, a religion, which is to lesser and greater degrees, cult-like, as they all are, will consciously and unconsciously brainwash followers into believing certain things.
Jews have been brainwashed for thousands of years to believe:
1. Jews are the only true humans.
2. Jews are superior as humans and smarter than other humans.
3. Non-jews want to kill Jews.
4. Jews are forever at risk from non-Jews who exist in vastly greater numbers than Jews.
5. Judaism has recorded a long history of what it calls persecution over thousands of years. This information is without context and proof, certainly much of the oldest material.
6. Jews are the eternal victims.
7. Jews can never be wrong. They are always innocents persecuted because they are Jews.
8. Jews can never be safe surrounded by goyim.
9. Jews should be in control because they are superior as humans .
10. If Jews are not in control they are at greater risk (This would be the motivation behind Jewish efforts to infiltrate Government, politics and media in countries where they live and behind the delusional concept that Jews can only be safe in their own State which is run by and controlled by Jews.)
Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews.
This kind of paranoid victim/supremacist mentality creates great psychological and emotional dysfunction. We see that in the State of Israel, where if you like the cult is most entrenched and has had the greatest freedom to live such beliefs, consciously and unconsciously.
What Israel tells the world and should tell Jews is that their religion creates dysfunction and poor psychological health. There are aspects of Judaism, like Reform, which have tried to rewire the religion for the modern world, but I suspect the power of Morphic Resonance, the energy field for Judaism and Jews, which has influenced them for thousands of years and continues to do so, makes it difficult if not impossible for even Reform Jews to free themselves from the ancient chains of belief.
In short, they need our help and the first act must and should be to totally dismantle Zionist Israel and end the Jewish cult which poisons the religion and its followers and makes life hell on earth for millions of people in the Middle East.
I was with you mostly until this: "Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews."
Just like Islam, there is a wide range of thought among Jews of the world. And that's taking it way too far, far too overconfidently, and even dangerously. I personally know many "Jews" (mother, mother and father Ashkenazi) who don't give a shit about being in control, let alone being part of some group of special, chosen people.
My issue with diaspora and Israeli Judaism is that they either fully support what the Zionists are doing (establishing a settler colonial apartheid state, cleansing the land of non-Jews, giving non-Jews less than equal status, and murdering/genociding Arabs/Muslims) or they are not nearly as vocally opposed to it - in public - as they claim to be in private. There are exceptions like Jewish Voice for Peace and B'Tselem who do excellent work, but even they are shunned or outright attacked by the majority of Zionists and ignored by other supposedly non-Zionist Jews. It's also not helpful that Jews are the only group who seem to think they can simultaneously be a "race" and a "religion" all at once. Islam and Christianity are far more pragmatic and even superior in that regard. For example, you'll never find a Jew let alone a Zionist proselytizing to others to CONVERT to Judaism - least of all in a systematic campaign like Christianity and Islam.
If you could find some self discipline and stop resorting to peronal insults and abuse it would waste less time for everyone.
Do not be ridiculous. There is no way one individual can ask a question of world Jewry or get an answer.
Jews have to do this for themselves. They need to come together and ask the question, which, by the way some Jews are already asking.
Zionism, Judaism and Jews are conflated and it has nothing to do with my approach.
Zionist Israel claims to represent all Jews as the Jewish State. MOST JEWS NOT ONLY ACCEPT THAT THEY PROMOTE IT. Ergo, Zionism and Jews are conflated.
Many followers of Judaism have always and continue to support, promote, fund, enable Zionist Israel and do NOT challenge its claims to represent Jews, followers of the religion of Judaism. Ergo, Judaism and Zionism are conflated.
AND FFS YOU SHOULD STOP DICTATING TO OTHERS WHAT TO SAY AND HOW TO SAY IT. None of your bloody business. Read or don't read is the only decision you have to make.
The focus on Palestine and on bringing people together and to have compassion for all REQUIRES PUTTING THE FOCUS ON ZIONISM, JUDAISM AND JEWS AND THE PART THEY PLAY IN CREATING THE EVIL THAT IS ISRAEL AND ITS GENOCIDAL POLICIES. Logic.
It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal. It is however possible and sensible to feel love and compassion for all humans regardless of their culture.
"It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal". Your sweeping statement Roslyn Ross, is very pompous and patronising. I don't think "other cultures" need your love or compassion.
The anthropological term " Cultural relativism" recognises the diversity of human cultures and the equal validity of each.
But the way the western culture has embraced genocide you wouldn't say that it is equal or valid, would you ?
If Western culture has embraced genocide then can you please demonstrate how India and China, both non-Western cultures, have acted to condemn and prevent genocide? Many thanks.
You make the mistake of thinking the US represents Western culture, or whatever people believe Western culture might be. It does not.
Western culture is essentially the modern world and it likes to think it is the democratic world but that is no more than variations on the theme of democracy. The US is not a democracy but a Constitutional Republic and its system of the Electoral College. There are democratic aspects to the US but it is hardly representative of the Western democratic world.
If you think highly patriarchal and misogynistic cultures are the equal of those which allow freedom and independence for people and particularly for women then you are not thinking clearly. Of course all cultures are not equal.
In Malawi witchcraft is still powerful and Albinos are killed for their body parts to be used in spells and old women are still murdered as witches. So, no, all cultures are not equal.
AND SORRY MATE BUT MISOGYNY, INFANTICIDE, WITCHCRAFT DO NOT HAVE EQUAL VALIDITY. What a ridiculous position.
It is wrong to say Western culture has embraced genocide given how many people in Western cultures are protesting against it.
What you need to remember is that the average person does not care much about what goes on beyond their world and life and they rely on mainstream media for their information. That is changing, particularly with younger generations accessing alternative information sites.
What you can say is that domination of the US and its obsession with Israel, has allowed genocide to happen, indeed, armed it to happen, and too many gutless allies have gone along with it. That is however beginning to change. None of that represents Western culture.
The domination of the world by one State, the US, does not represent Western culture or its values. Neither does genocide, occupation, colonisation, ethnic cleansing. The fact these things exist is not because of Western culture but because of flaws and failings in human nature.
And let us not be total hypocrites. Genocide and ethnic cleansing go on in some places all the time, particularly Africa and India and they are not Western cultures.
Indu, Roslyn Ross has already made excuses and tried to deny the Genocide of ethnic/native Australians (in one of her other posts/comments). She is a certified Pro-Colonialist (and hence will try and defend Genocides by the West in ways that seem acceptable and permissible - i.e. using deceptive language and methods to appear as presentable as possible).
Such people (like Roslyn Ross) absolutely DISGUST me beyond belief. She disparages so many cultures in her attempts to defend the West - Indian culture, African cultures, and more.
And notice how she NEVER explicitly focuses on the U.S. Empire and their DIRECT involvement in the Genocide of the Palestinians (since 1948). She will always tru to put ALL the blame on Jews and Israel instead of expanding the scope of guilty parties and focusing on the West (which created this mess and dystopian situation to begin with).
Also, I rarely find her mentioning CAPITALISM (and everything that it entails - like imperialism, all forms of colonialism, etc.) as an extremely prominent factor in the behavior of Western nations in the destruction of 'not only the Palestinian people', but also large parts of the Global South.
[PS: If she sees this comment, she will try to employ her usual trick of 'take one statement I have made and make a credible case that it amounts to a hatred of Judaism and Jews or other cultures' to deflect from any honest criticism of her views/opinions. And when people produce copies amounts of evidence as to her culpability in all this, she simply ignores facts and logic as if they don't apply to 'any of her criticisms' - like she is 'above and beyond' being held accountable by logic.]
What is sad/horrible is that such kinds of 'White Supremacists' and racists (like Roslyn Ross) are all to common - one simply has to look at the MAGA cult (in the U.S.) and similar far-right groups in other Western nations - to see how they prey on the weak minded using manufactured moral panics of 'white replacement theory' and 'anti-immigration' narratives.
I have said what I needed to say to you (and what people need to know about you and your behavior). EVERYONE here (and elsewhere) observes your words and behavior. Some are deceived by your methods. Others are smarter to pick up on your strategies and lack of logic and strawman arguments and deflections and introduction of extraneous information and tangents and distractions and fallacious comparisons and more.
I will go back to being depressed and angry about the plight of the Palestinians and the world - but you do YOU - whatever rocks your boat - whatever helps you create 'more hate' in the world - whatever helps you 'divide people' further.
Odd is it not that you are the only one saying it and people are not lining up behind you validating your insults and abuse. You might want to ponder that.
I shall ignore your silly insult posts in future. Happy to discuss like adults any reasonable points you make, should they appear.
Yes, she brings her opinions up a lot and it never shows much logic. It's my opinion that ignoring her is best or a whole day could be wasted on the back and forth.
Jesus Christ Chang. All those posts about not conflating “Judaism and Zionism” are getting REALLY. FUCKING. IRRITATING.
Polls indicate that over 3/4 of Amerikkkan Jews support what IsraHell is doing in Palestine (yep, West Bank too.) Katie Halper, Max Blumenthal, Norman Finkelstein nonewithstanding.
How many times do I have to fucking say this? IT AINT QUAKERS bombing and starving Palestinians!
Or Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Or Buddhists.
Or Taoists.
Go ahead and call me an antisemite. I could not give a flying fuck less, because I am an ACTUAL TRUE SEMITE, pal!
Gypsy, are you able to differentiate between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism? You don't really seem to care. You don't seem to understand WHY making such differentiations is important.
>>"How many times do I have to fucking say this? IT AINT QUAKERS bombing and starving Palestinians!"
No - its Zionists - Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists. It's also all the non-Zionists in the Western world (and all other nations) that provide support to Israel in myriad ways.
Also, take AND use your righteous anger for what is happening in this world (and believe me, you are not the ONLY one that is angry), but also use valid judgement and blame assignment in the process.
If you don't understand how the Palestinian cause is harmed by NOT making these important distinctions, then you should think a bit more on this.
Non-Zionist and Pro-Palestine groups have been on the side of Palestine LONG before Oct.7, and have been protesting and fighting against Zionism and Israel. (Do your research if you are not aware of this FACT). Hence, to not ally with the people on our side (the side of the Palestinians) is sheer folly.
But yeah, sure - if YOUR feelings are more important than the Palestinians to you, if YOUR anger is more important than the Palestinians to you, then go ahead with your PURE EMOTIONAL approach to fighting against Israel and Zionism and see how far that gets you.
Initially Zionists were atheists and assimilationists like Herzl and Weissman - working in league with Luciferian Occultist European Imperialists, and anti-Jewish Bigots, who wanted the Jews somewhere ELSE - far away from them, and Europe. The Rothschilds, being in the two former groups, sponsored the Scofield Bible, to promote Zionism to Christian evangelicals.
There was ONE Rabbi, who joined with the Zionists, for some reason - Rabbi Kook. He tortured some reasoning, and decided it was somehow acceptable, according to Judaism. It didn't catch on.
Zionism was a minority position in world Jewry, until 1967, when they captured Jerusalem. At that point things began moving on all fronts for them. Perhaps the religious community saw the temporary and ultra-vires success, of winning Jerusalem, as a sign that G-d supported them. Since then, Rothschild money has bought a lot of traction in all sectors of world Jewry. They have monstrous Rabbis, who preach the "Right to Rape" (gentiles) and Genocide (again, only Goyim).
If Jews want safety - then Encino and Beverly Hills are the Promised Land.
The Bible is clear: Biblical Jews were given a chance by God of moving from humanity stage to near or at angelic more or less in several to many attempts really failing all leaving God to make the tribes wander the earth until relocated in mini tribes where destructive aspects would me mi imized..essentially reducing them to level of rest of humanity..cursed but with avg blessings more importantly hope was left them..
So long before Zionists Jews were in moral turmoil,including Baal ,Moloch,etc demon worship tendencies of some..
Yet,there's evidence God's let the 12 tribes wander to purify evils out worked to great degrees and Zionists seized on worse of them remnants and their demons in hijack jews and demon powers resurgence bid likely plotted by Lucifer himself evidenced further by how Zionists have world on brink of largest ,bloodiest war ever,aligning with Biblical predictions and revelations where actions of fallen angels would overcome those of mankind in a demonic release God would pernit to bring matters to a just head and finale, resolutions, wheat from chaffe etc.
The Bible is relevant only to followers of Christianity and Judaism. The Bible is not historical or archaeological fact and therefore it is not clear.
I believe all religious books are meant to be read as metaphor and not literal and the problems of the past few thousand years, the age of left-brain dominant patriarchy, is that they have been literalised.
Do "values" actually matter anymore when the vast and overwhelming majority of Jews continue to fund, support, lie, spread propaganda and fight for Israel. Are we not past the point of no return for Jews and their "values"? Have they not proven that they will do anything to support Israel and its continued war crimes (which seems to have lost all meaning)? Are we not at a point where it is obvious that the majority of Jews will be very happy and relieved to have Palestinians wiped from the earth only to take their land? Have they not said it over and over and over? Are they not carrying out their planned ethnic cleansing of Palestine? At what point will the world realize that this is not a conflict, but a planned genocide of epic proportions being committed and supported by Jews? Do values matter any more? An irrelevant smoke screen.
Unfortunately, Jews (people who follow the Torah, and worship G-d) are vastly outnumbered by the Satanic and Heretical movement of Zionists. It's a huge victory for the Luciferian Occultist family known as the Rothschilds, and a huge downfall for actual Jews and Judaism. All that matters is that Jews, true to their faith in G-d and the Torah have a ‘minyan’ (a group of ten to pray) left, to preserve the authentic faith. The rest are all just Satanists cosplaying and worshipping a Golden Calf, called “Israel”.
Waters turned off over a year,to feed 5 million for 1 to 2 years requires massive cooperation daily operations admitted long blocked,reserve food maybe 2 - 3 months max more likely 3 weeks though..= most dead over a year and we're getting false reports of cruel skirmishes to pacificy.
Folks it's simple food and water delivery math..never mind the rest of the act..Max alive is 15 percent, likely 3 percent well fed and watered,always isolated far from other killings to be released as a photo opp claiming their over 4.5 million when their 150-400 k ie max you can keep alive in tents that long, come-on do the simple math people..most are dead and they fooled you again..but then most of us don't want to know ..just to get ours..why God and angels having hard time loving us..even though better then Zionist demon lovers!
I feel your basing that on reports coming in from controlled sources and cuz they're admittedly still horrible to sell us it's true we buy it ..when I'm fact all buildings virtually gone, encampments they admit are 90 percent plus off camera..warnings over 2 million subject to immediate starvation or lack of water etc not one year old but 2...all real reporters,UN workers killed, replaced with Zionists, same with Hama ie hollowed out to zilch what small percentage weren't Zionist infiltration spysy, actors (likely,no,?).
Tell me strongest evidences you've heard that majority of Gaza 2.2 million or west bank 3.2 are alive and why we should bet the whole farm on it sir?
Tony Greenstein has a whole book on Zionist collaboration with the Nazis. There's another author (Lani Brewer?, or perhaps something similar) that has a bunch of letters, including one from Itzhak Shamir to Himmler, as I recall, from during WWII.
MOST of the Jews killed, in the Nazi Genocide were Ashkenazi. And I think that most of the Zionists were also Ashkenazi. So it was secular atheist Jews, feeding religious non- and anti-Zionist Jews to the Nazis. Zionists in Germany, took advantage of "the Transfer Agreement" and relocated early.
Hitler and Germans were very against the bankers who likely were Zionist Ashkenazi but also European eukrainian largely seems a semi secret?
Could it be a deal was made with Ashkenazi Zionists to relinquish banks to extent, share loot with swiss and Vatican and Rothschild s and feign Zionist being majority killed in camps by leaving false train and camp name records, really just killing alot of gypsies and undesirables ,Russian Jews etc and sliding out of camps discreetly Zionists,then sending them off to Palestine to create new phony non Jew Israel with plot to continue Orthodox Jew, Christian Holocaust ie real one in palistine, middle east for their master, Lucifer of the Talmud they worship.
>>"Zionist Israel claims to represent Judaism and Jews? That is absolute. It is a fact. It is not in doubt."
EXACTLY my point. This is what Zionists do. This is their Hasbara. Smart and critical thinking people SHOULD NOT fall for Zionist hasbara.
Let me repeat -> "Smart and critical thinking people SHOULD NOT fall for Zionist hasbara."
Zionists purposely CONFLATE Jews, Judaism, Zionism so that ALL Jews ALL over the world are BLAMED for the actions of 'the monstrosity and absolute EVIL that is Israel'. That is BY DESIGN. Hence, it is UNWISE to fall into this TRAP that the Zionists have made.
Some simple Yes/No questions:
(1) Do you agree that there are some some Jews that are Zionists?
(2) Do you agree that there are some Jews that are NOT Zionists?
(3) Are YOU, Roslyn Ross, able to distinguish between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism? I'm not talking about anyone else in the world being able to distinguish. I'm asking you DIRECTLY - are you able to make these distinctions? Or do you think Jews = Judaism = Zionism?
Your answers to the above (simple, straight-forward) questions will provide much insight into WHY you think the way you do.
>>"Since most Jews do not challenge that claim and there is no unified Judaic opposition"
It is really irrelevant what most Jews claim or what 'WE THINK' most Jews claim (since there is no rigorous, exhaustive poll/survey (which in itself is subject to sampling and bias issues, not to mention variations in moods and human psychology) that has tabulated the response of EVERY SINGLE JEW on the planet), we can only make guesstimates (we don't even know the margin of error for such statistical calculations) that could potentially be wildly inaccurate.
The BURDEN of differentiation and distinction (between Jews, Judaism, Zionism) is on EVERY PERSON on the planet (regardless of what a Jew or a person of Judaic faith or a Zionist believes or does not believe). Just as the burden of differentiation of 'different sects of Christianity or Islam' lies on the observer (when such differentiations are of importance to world events), the same applies to Jews of different belief systems.
Hence, your "Logic, reason and reality must then conclude that Zionism, Judaism and Jews are welded together as a unit." is DEFUNCT - i.e. there is no logic involved here. NONE. There is NO logic, reason, (and let's not even get into the subjectiveness and variations of reality and perceptions of reality) in ANY of this. But you would know this if you understood logic (even at a rudimentary level), as these are the basic steps of philosophical logic (and I doubt you are prepared to go into formal logic into all this - it requires axioms and symbolisms that I'm familiar with (as per my background in Computer Science)).
Hence, pure simple logic says the OPPOSITE - there is no welding - logic doesn't work on what someone believes or what someone says they believe - it works on mathematical principles. We are getting beyond the scope of what is conveniently discussable in this format without going into logic theory, but suffice to say that ->
(a) there are multiple permutations and combinations (combinatorial logic) on the different kinds of groupings possible concerning the 3 entities (Jews, Judaism, Zionism)
(b) Each such unique group (formed from the above permutation and combination) will have unique characteristics that will differ from other such groups (based on basic logic of groupings (i.e. sets) from from the different P/C (abbreviation for permutation/combination).
(c) Each such P/C group/set would be assigned a statistical calculation as to their beliefs.
(d) As per Set Theory, there will be intersections and unions amongst these different sets based on a particular set's belief systems overlapping (based on different criteria) with those of another set.
Hence, when the Math is all said and done, you will land up with multiple groups (eg. Zionists that are not Jews, Jews that do not believe in Judaism but are Zionists, Jews that believe in Judaism that are NOT Zionists, etc. etc. and much more complicated groupings based on sub-modalities of belief systems.
This is already getting somewhat abstract (and I feel most people would have lost me by this point of time in the comment).
To wrap up this point, all this goes to show that your 'WELDING' that you believe is ANYTHING BUT welding. It is a smorgasbord of unwelded groups (sets) that agree on some beliefs and disagree on others (simple example: think how some Orthodox Jews support Zionism and some don't).
So, there is NO LOGIC in the WORLD that can achieve this 'magical and fictional' welding that you claim. To deny this is to deny basic logic and math (which you seem to do SO OFTEN in most of your comments).
Q.E.D.
Roslyn Ross, based on your comments, I suggest you forget mentioning logic and reason in your comments - since you have none (or very little).
But go ahead and try your shit with people that have limited understanding of logic - they might actually fall for it (and apparently there seem to be quite a few in this world).
>>"If they did not then they would rise up as a majority and condemn the Israeli State and separate themselves from it."
This is SO ABSURD that it belies your understanding of reality, how social groups work and coordinate, how challenging organizing groups based on commonalities and differences is, and more.
But like I've said before - you are NOT an honest person, and you lack intellectual honesty AND integrity (not to mention an inadequate understdanding of historical analysis and historiography. All you have (and depend on) are your biases, your racist beliefs, your lived life experiences, your prejudices, and your narratives.
Hence, all this makes you the person you present yourself to be (and often try to hide the ugly aspects of it).
I have no idea who Tom is and the fact we agree on some things does not make us friends.
You said:EXACTLY my point. This is what Zionists do. This is their Hasbara. Smart and critical thinking people SHOULD NOT fall for Zionist hasbara.
We agree that Israel claims to represent Judaism and Jews. The problem for you is most Jews also agree with that and fund, promote and support the State and call it the Jewish State. If Jews did not do that it would simply be hasbara, but, because Jews do agree with the Israeli claim then logically they are complicit.
You said:Zionists purposely CONFLATE Jews, Judaism, Zionism so that ALL Jews ALL over the world are BLAMED for the actions of 'the monstrosity and absolute EVIL that is Israel'. That is BY DESIGN.
Sure, but the problem is most Jews do not only allow them to do that they encourage and fund them to do that. So most Jews accept their claims and conflate is not the issue.
If Most Jews did not support Israel’s claims it would be a different matter, but they do support and promote those claims. And yes, Zionists may well want Jews to be blamed for what they do because their end goal is to terrify gullible Jews into upping stakes and moving as colonists to Palestine, and in the future, Lebanon and Syria.
You said:Hence, it is UNWISE to fall into this TRAP that the Zionists have made.
Since most Jews have fallen into the trap your statement is ridiculous.
Some simple Yes/No questions:
(1) Do you agree that there are some some Jews that are Zionists?
Yes. (But I think Zionist principles are entrenched in Judaism and so most Jews hold consciously and unconsciously Zionist principles)
(2) Do you agree that there are some Jews that are NOT Zionists?
Yes. But not many. (But I think Zionist principles are entrenched in Judaism and so most Jews hold consciously and unconsciously Zionist principles)
(3) Are YOU, Roslyn Ross, able to distinguish between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism?
Jews are followers of a religion; Judaism is a religion; Zionism is a fascist, racist political movement which draws on Judaism and Jewish beliefs. They are welded together.
You said:I'm not talking about anyone else in the world being able to distinguish. I'm asking you DIRECTLY - are you able to make these distinctions? Or do you think Jews = Judaism = Zionism?
If you do not believe in Judaism and its God you are not a Jew. Zionist principles are sourced in Judaic teachings. So, generally Jews do equal Judaism and equal Zionism with some rare and brave exceptions. I am talking about real Jews not the fake atheist/secular who claim to be Jews but are not.
Your answers to the above (simple, straight-forward) questions will provide much insight into WHY you think the way you do.
You said: It is really irrelevant what most Jews claim
It is not irrelevant. If a rogue State committed atrocities in the name of Christians and said it was the Christian State and most Christians did not reject that claim but instead supported it and funded the State then it would behove all Christians to come together to take action against the rogue State and its atrocities. Same for Jews.
You said: (since there is no rigorous, exhaustive poll/survey (which in itself is subject to sampling and bias issues, not to mention variations in moods and human psychology) that has tabulated the response of EVERY SINGLE JEW on the planet),
Well if various Christian sects and groups can get together and formulate statements then why not Jews? I mean real Jews not atheist fakes. All forms of Judaic expression are perfectly capable of tabulating a response. It does not have to be every Jew on the planet but it has to be every Jewish sect or group.
You said: The BURDEN of differentiation and distinction (between Jews, Judaism, Zionism) is on EVERY PERSON on the planet
NO IT IS NOT. Because for 77 years there has been no distinction between Jews, Judaism and Zionism and that is a problem for Jews.
You said: Hence, your "Logic, reason and reality must then conclude that Zionism, Judaism and Jews are welded together as a unit." is DEFUNCT
Quite the opposite. Until Judaism and its followers stand up united and reject Zionism and Israel then they are welded together as a unit.
You sid: (a) there are multiple permutations and combinations (combinatorial logic) on the different kinds of groupings possible concerning the 3 entities (Jews, Judaism, Zionism)
A Jew is a follower of Judaism and most Jews support Zionism and Israel. They are not separate but one.
You said:L This is already getting somewhat abstract (and I feel most people would have lost me by this point of time in the comment).
Yes it is.
>>"If they did not then they would rise up as a majority and condemn the Israeli State and separate themselves from it."
You said: This is SO ABSURD that it belies your understanding of reality, how social groups work and coordinate, how challenging organizing groups based on commonalities and differences is, and more.
What is absurd is a religion and its followers failing to condemn a State which commits genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, murder, torture, theft for 77 years in its name, and is the greatest intentional mass murderer of children in human history.
So all those bombs they’ve dropped have sent untold amounts of toxic dust (filled with asbestos) and vapors in the atmosphere, the aquifers, the waste water. They’re not planning to inhabit it. They’ve long planned the Ben Gurion Canal. Now it can cut a straighter line. They intend to bury, vaporize, maim, starve any native Palestinian who refuses to leave.
But the prevailing winds flow from Gaza to Israel. So all those pollutants are blowing onto Israelis. But they don’t care about them either. They’re just the sheep who jeered on their own (eventual) demise. Much like Stateside. A criminal enterprise running both countries.
The USA doesn't even pay our own peoples' medical bills and you're probably right about the IOF's - the US taxpayer is on the hook for that little bastion of great evil in the Levant.
What evidence do you have pf palististiniians being allowed to leave either Gaza or West Bank the last day 2 years or even before confirmed by countries receiving? Even if so what evidence is there of leaving allowed last 6 months? Of 5.2 million Palistinians ie 2022,what percentage is likely killed?
None. They’re treating Palestinians the same as though they’re shooting fish in a barrel…there’s nowhere safe to flee. No neighboring country will take them but they understandably don’t want to nor should they have to leave their homeland. And the death toll is clearly exponentially higher than reported.
Logically, likely worse then that and majority held in tents till dead of dehydration over a year ago or forced to dig mass grave holes before dying..and reports of cruel killings of a dozen here or hundred there are too pacify the world into believing it's a semi war ie Hamas still can't be located with no buildings and most sophisticated observations tech
In world ie every square foot.
No,its long over,my bet is less then,3 to 10 percent are left in isolated from rest encampments where they couldn't witness murder of 90 percent..they likely are being well fed relatively and cared for..they'll be released to other countries soon and their numbers will be exaggerated by over 95 percent with payoffs to accepting countries...why? I just realized it's the only way for Israel to get away with a Holocaust and call the quarter million killed casualties of a real war... everything building to this ie strange behaviors with zero real communications Gaza..West Bank rumours I'm less sure of.. but it's Ike west bank never existed nearly ie Gaza,gaza, Gaza..yet confirmed mass WB encampments despite buildings largely saved there?! Likely same fate for west bank,3-10 percent isolated and on good shape for photo opp release to other countries or perhaps a portion of Palestine or close ie 200,000 people made to look like 4.7 million plus and billions paid to cover it all up.
At least that's what I'd do if I wanted to get away with a holocaust in Palestine (ps.phew! I really don't)
Do you realize what it would take to feed and water 5 million
Plus people cut off completely?? This as it's admitted food ,water is being withheld in giant shipping areas for years already,?
Come on you guys your not having the truth obvious,they are 90 percent plus dead and all witnesses ie reporters,UN are missing or dead too..ie over a thousand by my approx count,admitted officially is approx 500! Journalism is a hazardous occupation!
"World Food Programme director Cindy McCain is saying that she’s seen no evidence of Hamas stealing aid entering Gaza." And yet, I still hear on a mainstream news report that Israel says Hamas is preventing the distribution of food aid. So there I was, yelling at my computer asking how they could be such assholes, how they could possibly believe this worn out excuse for Israeli atrocities. I could not ever murder two people, even if they were staunch supporters of Israel, but I can understand how a person might get enraged enough to do something so horrible and not bear in mind that it did not help the cause of the people in Gaza at all.
Technically, Palestinians are a Semitic people, too. And most of them aren’t half European. So, it could be argued that it’s more anti-Semitic to hate Palestinians than it is to hate Jewish people.
Technically the Ashkenazi majority in Israel ARE NOT Semitic people - at all. But yes, the Mizrahi are as are the Palestinians. Sephardic is more blurry - they probably do have some Semitic DNA, but also a lot of Spanish blood.
Exactly. It was Israelis who lobbied to have Semitic to apply only to them. Why do they have to steal every dam thing from Palestinians? Greed, jealousy, to aid their feelings of supremacy. Get over yourselves
Israeli forces continue to carry out horrific massacres by bombing shelters, levelling remaining buildings, and imposing unliveable conditions on the Gaza Strip’s population. Yesterday’s attack targeted a school sheltering displaced persons in the Al-Daraj neighbourhood of central Gaza City, killing at least 30 civilians, more than half of them women and children. Following the attack, most of the bodies were completely charred.
“What Will I Tell My Brother?”: Gaza Doctor Wakes to Find His Nine Children Killed in Israeli Strike
Ali Al-Najjar faced two impossible choices today: evacuate his family from the danger zone—even though nowhere in Gaza is safe—or stay by the hospital bedside of his wounded brother, Dr. Hamdi Al-Najjar. Hours earlier, an Israeli airstrike hit Hamdi’s family home in Khan Younis without warning. The house collapsed like “a biscuit,” Ali said, leaving behind nothing but rubble—and the charred bodies of nine children.
"No white supremacist propaganda will ever be as effective at spreading hatred against Jews as openly mass murdering children under a Star of David flag."
Well said. It shows just how deep the psychological illness runs throughout Israel. They can't see the evil that they're doing to Gaza is only going to come back and haunt them someday. Soon, I hope.
"This cannot be allowed to continue. It must not be allowed to continue."
Amen and Amen! The empire must fall--and we each must do our best to push its rotten carcass over the edge of the cliff. Power to the people! Free Palestine!
The power of impunity has never been so clearly on view. Like a sickness that grows without bounds, a cancer, if you will, that consumes not only the one with the disease, but all around it.
In the immediate aftermath someone connected to the israeli embassy lied to the bbc about the event being in support of the people of Gaza. The event was sponsored by the israeli government, so this is an egregious lie that was posted by the bbc. Why the need to get out this story right away that the alleged shooter had hurt his own cause? There are still many questions that remain about the alleged shooter. The original reports said the shooter was a white male with a goatee. It hasn't been explained yet how the alleged shooter bought his gun, when and why he flew on an airplane from chicago to washington, how he found out about the event held by the israeli embassy, where he stayed while in washington, how he was able to bring his gun and bullets with him through security if he took it on his flight to Washington, and how and why he choose the two victims who worked for the israeli embassy. Many patsies throughout history have had little money and less connections yet they came into money to be able to travel long distances and stay at fancy hotels and spend lots of money in large metropolitan cities. Hasan, the streamer recently detained at the same airport in Chicago, pointed out that before the shooting of the israeli embassy members that israel had been feeling international pressure for having idf soldiers shooting at embassy members of europeans and Chinese in the West Bank in the days leading up to the shooting in washington. If one would search online for israeli embassy shooting one would get this new story of what happened in washington rather than the international incident in the West Bank.
In an article published today on substack by Ken Klippenstein, he writes creating a profile to convict the alleged shooter in the mind of the public knowing that the false flag allegations are already in the air: "When I published Rodriguez’s manifesto — earning me an FBI visit — I stressed how important it was to make these materials public so there wouldn’t be an information vacuum for conspiracy theories to fill. Predictably they have, with many calling the attack a 'false flag' orchestrated by the government to further suppress criticism of Israel. The term 'false flag' even spiked to its highest number of Google searches this year.
'It’s driving me crazy that people are calling it a false flag,' a woman who knew Rodriguez said. 'This development is shocking but not completely out of character,' she remarked, echoing a sentiment expressed by others. They were at first shocked but not ultimately surprised that Rodriguez did what he did.
'He always had strong political convictions,' the woman said. 'From the sound of the manifesto he’s the same as he was.'
In all his rage though, Rodriguez had an almost wide-eyed optimism about the global south, which as a self-identified Maoist Third Worldist, he believed alone had 'revolutionary potential.'
'He was a big proponent of ‘the emerging resistance axis’ of Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, Assad’s Syria,' a friend recalled. “He seemed pretty vocally in favor of Hamas for years — way before 2023. He’d always hated Israel and would call it ‘The Little Satan.’"
What is Israel’s excuse for deliberately targeting the house of two doctors and their 10 children? What’s their excuse for the targeted mass murder of this family? Why hasn’t the Israeli minister of defence and IDF chief of staff been indicted by the ICC? Why hasn’t the US president and secretary of defence? Why hasn’t the EU cut all diplomatic and trade ties? What excuses do these participants in genocide come with? And what excuses to western media and institutions have for hiding and obfuscating this genocide?
The infrastructure of genocide is a globe-spanning project.
Never, Ever Let Anyone Forget
*(For Gaza)*
Never let the world grow silent,
Never let the blood dry unseen,
Never let the echoes fade—
The screams that choked the olive trees.
Never let the dust settle,
Over broken homes and shattered prayers,
Never let the shadows swallow
The light stolen from their stares.
They buried the children in numbers,
They drowned the streets in fire,
They wrote their wrath in rubble,
Yet Gaza still breathes—*still breathes*—
So never, ever let them say
It was "war," or "right," or "fate."
Call it what it is:
A massacre. A crime. Hate.
And when they scrub the headlines clean,
When the cameras turn away,
Hold the truth like a shard of glass—
Sharp. Unflinching. Here to stay.
For memory is the only land
The occupier cannot seize.
So never, ever let them forget
What they did to Gaza.
*Never.*
*Ever.*
I lived through the Nazi experience in the 1940s and thought them cruel and hateful. But the Zionist have shown me that bad as they were they were mere apprentices to Zionism
This is such a terrible thing to believe, but it has the "ring of truth".
It IS the truth…..period…!!! 🇵🇸
I watched the documentary Tantura again recently - about the Palestinian seaside village - one of many - where a mass murder took place. The villagers are still buried under the car park. In the documentary I noticed something this time that I had missed before. One of these charming genocidalists from the Alexandroni Brigade said that the killing was partly revenge for what had happened to them in WWII - Palestinians of course being such a huge part of Hitler's final solution... .
If you haven't seen Tantura it's available to stream free on the Internet Archive site - just be sure the stream you choose says 'full feature'.
a holocaust
Thank you for sharing your moving poem.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=icFKdMw7nT8
Another gem of a title, Ms. Johnstone!
You're "on fire," if you will.
Or you would be if you were Jewish in Gaza
CJ>>"We live in a nightmare of a civilization, under an empire that is fueled by human blood. The closer you examine it, the uglier it gets."
👉This cannot be allowed to continue. It must not be allowed to continue.
👉The empire must fall.
Caitlin, even though I don't believe in God (or hell) I wish for Israelis and Zionists whatever they are doing to the Palestinians (and worse) -> they DESERVE to BURN IN HELL for ETERNITY. If this makes me a bad/evil person (and according to some it might), I really don't care!
They WILL (burn in hell) - and you're not (bad/evil)... At least not for coming to the reasonable pronouncement of the appropriate Sentence, on behalf of a wise, and moral, and loving Creator.
Thank you! Even though I don't believe in God, I PRAY, PRAY, PRAY with EVERY FIBER of my being to MAKE THIS STOP! I understand how Aaron Bushnell felt. I empathize with him. I understand how so many of us are feeling.
What I am incapable of understanding - is the level of suffering being endured by the Palestinians (and especially Gazans) - try as I might, I don't think I'm remotely close to being able to comprehend the depth of their suffering 😭😥...
After watching this daily for the past twenty months I, too, am amazed at how they can still stand, run to help where they can, carry those injured in the hope something can be done for them. All while they are being bombed, shot at by ^brave^ IOF snipers at a distance-if I could get my hands on one of them they'd wish they had never seen a rifle let alone used on--dig through the rubble of bombed homes in hope of saving someone.
All this as Israelis try to scare protesters into silence. Well, we will not be silenced, we will not stop, we will never, ever forget what you have done to an unarmed, caged by you, Palestinians simply because you want their land. You, Israel, do not deserve any land, anywhere near humans. End of.
>>"Well, we will not be silenced, we will not stop, we will never, ever forget what you have done to an unarmed, caged by you, Palestinians simply because you want their land. You, Israel, do not deserve any land, anywhere near humans. End of."
💯👏👍🙏
Fuck Israel! Fuck Zionists! Free Palestine! ❤️❤️❤️
As I watch local news there is a man hero for pulling a dog from storm rubble. There is the calamity of a few houses destroyed by a tornado. People are scared of 6 inch hailstones, and too much rain ruins the holiday weekend. A car wreck on the freeway. And then I think of the superficiality of this all, and of the untold consequences of the genocide and famine, non-ending blasts,unthinkable thirst and hunger, pervasive fear, babies and children under rubble, steel bullets and concrete smashing flesh, a country, a people of 2 million being destroyed, 30 miles of complete rubble. And the gasps with our news, and that horror that is unwatchable, unspeakable, hidden, so life goes on here with our discomforts and blindfolds.
>>"...so life goes on here with our discomforts and blindfolds."
What you say is so true, and really unfortunate. Is it a flaw of human nature/psychology to be concerned primarily with one's environment and loved ones at the expense of more pressing problems in the world and for humanity? Or is it a survival mechanism of human nature/psychology in the way that it works?
Or is it BOTH? Or some combination of the two?
Interesting to think about...don't really know the answers to such questions. Well, I can certainly say that humans are complicated and contradictory in their behaviors.
What is not mutually exclusive is the ability to care for your family and community and also understand the violence that is being perpetrated in our name. What we see and hear is a consequence of massive propaganda, diversionary tactics, lies, the need to placate our peoples to keep the order ordained from above. Nightly news broadcasts such as from the battlefields in Viet Nam are now verboten. Real news can be found scattered on the Internet but main stream viewing and news print are severely restricted to a prescribed bland formula. The desperate legions behind MAGA are pulling back the curtain, a violent outcry, as opposed to an orderly process such as with B. Sanders, who is sabotaged from within our political system.
So what are real examples of this iron fisted control. Look no further than the call to war in Iraq after 911 and the patriotism manipulated by Bush and company. 911 was a Saudi attack, not Hussein in Iraq. Look no further than the overnight campaign, without national discussion, to support Ukraine and Ukraine’s potential ultimate destruction in a U.S. promoted proxy war with Russia. Look no further than the military and financial support of a Palestinian genocide and any dissent is labeled as criminal antisemitism.
People need to awaken to the horrific consequences of the actions of our government and say, no more in our name, no more in my name! How can we preach love and family values, and be so hypocritical. It is disturbing, very disturbing. What type of nation are we???
Wake up, seek the truth.
"What type of nation are we???"
Do you really want to know?
>>"What type of nation are we???"
My guess is - we seem to be the type of nation that we have always been - one built on Genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, slavery, racism, oppression and exploitation, 'might is right' narratives, and more.
I think it is fractal. Pain and suffering all the way down.
Far too horrendous to comprehend.. At this point a nuke dropped in the middle of Tel Aviv would be appropriate.
Chang. We are God in our finest hours, we are Satan in our most despicable moments.
Maybe most of us here are (I understand that you are speaking in the abstract). But I can't attribute the same sentiment to ALL humans - definitely not to ultra-fascistic ones belonging to ideologies like Nazism and Zionism.
That is a separate category, pure evil.
Unfortunately, in the eyes of much of the world, the U.S. Empire has entered this category- causing millions of deaths, many more millions displaced, disruption of democracies, bullying, life threatening sanctions, a corrupted capitalistic system that destroys our Earth and anyone that gets in the way.
Some say this is the natural order, the dominant rule and innocents die. I think we should be at a higher healthier level of consciousness and morality.
And beware, an extinction event may be on the table by nuclear war or severe climate changes. This is the time to lay down our weapons and all come together to work toward a better outcome. Some tell me I am too idealistic. We will see.
Completely agree with you Michael Green! 💯
You're not bad or evil, Chang, just someone with a finely honed sense of justice.
Chang believes in Justice? Ha.
He is trying to push me off substack. Just mentioned the food presented to the Palestinians by the USA.
Pasta = how do you cook this without water.
Dried beans = hours to cook.
This is a sham.
You are a TROLL Jenny Stokes - you make people like Russian_bot possibly look good. Congratulations! I didn't think something like that was ever possible.
Not for one minute…!!! 🇵🇸
The lady who shared your post’s response to the request for comment in the Australian is hilarious.
The whole article is good for a laugh. I enjoyed the way they kept putting the quotes at the end of each paragraph, like they’re just letting the words speak for themselves, as if they were actually unequivocally horrible statements, when most of the quotes were actually kind of awesome. 🤣 It’s amazing they couldn’t see the entire piece was a giant self-own.
That piece in The Australian is a giant self-own. They think they are naming and shaming the country’s leading anti-Zionists, but they’re actually just pointing their readers to people who are highlighting media complicity in genocide.
Emily, I can just imagine The Australian's reaction to Caitlin. Except for your description, I wouldn't know, as we have stopped buying that shameful propaganda rag from way, way back.
Could you please share a link?
The link is in Caitlin’s essay.
https://archive.is/NTaZ4
Wow! Thank you for the link! So Australian media/leadership is as corrupt as the US's?
Is there a link that lists the names of the members of Congress in the US who did NOT join Netanyahu's standing ovations? Americans need to know who not to include when we vote all the incumbents out in 2026.
To be clear. All Western mainstream media is corrupt. I haven't read much truth in them in over fifty years and ,if possible it's getting worse.
The most disgusting and cynical of all ironies is that Israel thrives on the false accusations of antisemitism. Antisemitism, real, imagined, or invented, is the lifeblood of the Zionist entity, the state of Israel.
Not a false accusation. The accusers are famous!
So, if it is anti semitic to condemn burning children alive then those who say it represents a hatred of Judaism and Jews are saying that burning children alive is a Judaic and Jewish practice and value. Can we use the word value for evil?
Luckily, these are the values of ZIONISM - and not the true values of Judaism.
Zionism is a heretical rejection of the Torah, and a rebellion against the Almighty. Zionists wish you to believe that Zionism and Judaism are synonyms - when in fact they are antonyms. Zionism is Judaism's TOXIC MIMIC. Judaism is about subservience to G-d. Zionism is a Genocidal, Ethno-Supremcist Ultra-Nationalism, which is either atheistic idolatry - or just something TRULY SATANIC, for those who believe in a deity.
https://nkusa.org/quotes/rabbis-quotes/
This is the abridged version, I think, of the fuller reasoning and arguments made in this book.
https://www.scribd.com/document/708839978/The-Rabbis-Speak-Out
This has been the judgement of real Rabbis - for more than 100 years.
For those less religious in motivation - there's also this. https://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/devastating-tradition-liberalism/
This is a more philosophical, and less stridently-religious basis for the rejection of Zionism...
Yes, I know that and I know some Jews, particularly orthodox, rejected Zionism from the start and the Zionists murdered a lot of them, and they said Israel was not a place, had never been a place, should never be a place but was a way to live.
What is interesting however is why so many Jews, including orthodox, have supported, funded, enabled and promoted Zionist Israel from the start and still do.
I agree that Judaism is about subservience to G-d. Zionism is a Genocidal, Ethno-Supremcist Ultra-Nationalism, which is either atheistic idolatry - or just something TRULY SATANIC, for those who believe in a deity..... so why in the name of Judaic ethics and human sanity have so many Jews enabled the evil that is Israel for 77 years? That is the question only Jews can answer.
I would suggest that within Jews there is a morphic force at work which creates levels of paranoia about persecution, more imagined than real, and that many have supported Israel and continue to do so because they hold the totally irrational belief that if the world turned on Jews they had somewhere to run.
Any self-proclaimed Jews or Christians who support Zionism are hypocrites, and besmirch the true believers of Christianity and Judaism. Do not conflate the terms of Christian, Jew and Zionist.
For the record, Jesus of Nazareth was a devout Jew — whether or not anyone believes in Him.
The Zionists exploit sympathy for Jews who were exterminated during WWII. They also exploit sympathy from Evangelicals who are hoping to accelerate the arrival Armageddon and the End of Days.
The fossil fuels industry wants to seize control of all petroleum and natural gas in the Levant and the rest of the Middle East.
The US defense contractors want more money to build more weapons, regardless of where such weapons go or how they will be used. It’s just good business.
The US Congress has had the ability to stop all of this nonsense since 1948. The self-proclaimed Zionist Catholic POTUS #46 continued to support genocide with the support of Congress. The real estate developer POTUS #47 has failed to deliver on his campaign promises to end the genocide, but is trying to figure out how he can get “a good deal” for himself if he does. Just business.
All too many of the MAGA cult want government to “run like a business”, and will find out how that really works. It’s like expecting a fish to climb a tree.
Jesus was a devout Jew. Guess who killed him? Some things never change.
There is no evidence a literal Jesus ever existed let alone that he was a devout Jew. His teachings are so radically different from Judaism that it is highly unlikely he was Jewish. Palestine at the time had many different groups and religions so it is pure assumption to claim Jesus was Jewish.
Fact is there is no contemporary evidence from the Romans, Herodians or historians that Jesus ever existed. The first mention of him was made by Josephus, who was born 30 years after Jesus supposedly died and the Bible was written more than a century later.
Exactly.
If it makes you happy look at Christ and his crucifixion as an analogy of what the Zionists would do to anyone gaining the public ear and exposing their hypocrisy. You don't have to believe in Christ to see the parallels.
The hypocrites who feared his “disruptive” behavior asked the Romans to kill Him. Much like the Zionists of today, the hypocrites weren’t actually devout Jews.
“Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” (Matt. 16:6, Mark 8:15, Luke 12:1), “Then they (The Disciples) understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the DOCTRINE of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” (Matthew 16:12)
The Pharisees and Sadducees did not want anyone to challenge their undeserved authority.
300+ years later, the Romans established Christianity as the official religion of their empire, but did not drive out the devout Jews. Some remained in Palestine as did many of their progeny. Some converted to Christianity. Some converted to Islam after the Ottoman Empire took control of Asia Minor. Others left to seek their fortunes elsewhere.
>>"That is the question only Jews can answer."
So why don't you go and ASK them instead of pontificating in EVERY SINGLE POST and purposely conflating Jews and Judaism and Zionism into ONE thing without distinctions? You have a habit and history of doing this Roslyn Ross, and we have had arguments about it.
But you cannot help yourself. You bring it up EVERY CHANCE YOU GET - as if there is some kind of pathological need WITHIN YOU to purposefully (and surreptitiously) turn the discussion around to the SAME topic AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.
Is it possible for you to FOCUS on Palestinians more than on your intrinsic Jew-hatred? (Note here that I am NOT accusing you of anti-semitism here - which comes in many forms, but of Jew-hatred). I meant this as a rhetorical question, since I know (over multiple discussions, comments, and posts) that this (and your white-supremacy and pro-colonial stance) is something that seem to be the focus of your life.
FOCUS on PALESTINE! FOCUS on GAZA! FOCUS on bringing people together! FOCUS on nuance! FOCUS on LOVE of ALL PEOPLE, and LOVE of people of ALL COLORS and LOVE of ALL CULTURES (can I make an exception here for Israeli culture?)
Sorry to tell you but the line is way more blurred (if non-existent) in the minds of many, including the Zionists themselves.
https://www.nefariousrussians.com/p/zionism-is-at-the-core-of-judaism
and
https://www.nefariousrussians.com/p/the-ancient-zionism-that-haunts-the
So at the very least, prominent Jews who claim not to be Zionists, but do support Israel would like to have it both ways, depending on the conversation. At the most, Zionism is baked into ancient Judaism in a manner that is far beyond the ability of anyone to refute in the form of a comment at a website.
Of course it is blurred. And the Zionists LOVE that it is blurred - as this blurring, this lack of distinctions, this lack of nuance - CREATES REAL anti-semitism (we are not talking about the fake anti-semitism that is all too common).
This REAL anti-semitism enables and empowers the Zionists - as they can now truthfully claim victimhood. WHY would you want to continue to let the Zionists get away with this CHARADE of false victimhood?
Do you not understand this strategy employed by the Zionists/Israelis/supporters of Israel and Zionism/Christian Zionists/etc. ?
Do you not understand how this plays into the hands of the VERY PEOPLE that we are trying to FIGHT AGAINST and STOP?
Why enable and add fuel to the Zionist victimhood narrative?
Please read Yasha Levine's very well researched articles before we continue this conversation. If they are paywalled, that's an issue I may not be able to resolve fairly. But as a Jew himself - albeit a left-leaning non-practicing Jew - he has done the deep dives into the texts and produced his own translations of some of them. It is his contention that Zionism - insofar as the notion that Jews are promised a SPECIFIC piece of real estate on Earth (something no other religion deigns to do) - is a core part of the dominant strain of Israeli and diaspora Judaism.
I get what you're trying to say, as it isn't rocket science and I see it every day, but as Caitlyn noted, the Israelis have done more to amplify anti-Jew thought around the world than any white supremo website could ever have hoped. And as long as I (or we) are not talking about shipping Jews off to camps or hurting them, intellectual rigor requires the honest reading of the texts and juxtaposing that with the actions and words of Zionists as well as Jews who claim not to be Zionist, but "support Israel's right to exist" - a mutually incompatible set of circumstances with only one real set of solutions: Ending the state of Israel insofar as it is an ethnosupremacist Jewish state with special rights for Jews or giving the Palestinians their own country on land currently controlled by the Zionists. The first step down that road is ascertaining what actual diaspora Jews and the governments in countries where they live and have influence are willing to say or do about it.
There is so little real anti semitism, hatred of Judaism and Jews that it is probably time to put it away as a concept.
The religion which is persecuted today is Islam. That is where our focus needs to be.
Sometimes it is difficult to prevent our anger and outrage from causing us to be rash. They play the game masterfully.
Just the fact that there are so many Christian Zionists should tell people this has nothing to do with Judaism or Christianity. It is all about greed and personal advancement.
Apropos your points. As Gideon Levy makes clear.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/620923954335390/?s=single_unit&__cft__[0]=AZVyJaMWIwLuf4yVXa_gCaWcrYW7-OgnwBVKxrpp1AXSvJPyUW1lG4gKjbfakt2lqXdsm_FWx_N_C9oGIB38sYopMfoF3Qh8rAUVuXOFpL7qgQm0ClP55YHpmwYmfFAA5fT4kKBQCPK1Nl9mU80qBYODcYjMevFymdWv4yLUC5sHwQb9oEM6vxfA1kC8VLf-65uuQXKh4gVTocbswPFdGPnOjEVUI02LeQ0bVBxVYHTYZaBLUgfcc1lrFNcnk6WoQjY&__tn__=H-R
I agree and thanks for the links they are excellent. Well, I have not read them carefully nor processed but a first quick read suggests they are excellent.
I do not think there is any doubt that Zionism is sourced in Judaism and that is why it has had so much appeal to Jews.
In psychological terms, a religion, which is to lesser and greater degrees, cult-like, as they all are, will consciously and unconsciously brainwash followers into believing certain things.
Jews have been brainwashed for thousands of years to believe:
1. Jews are the only true humans.
2. Jews are superior as humans and smarter than other humans.
3. Non-jews want to kill Jews.
4. Jews are forever at risk from non-Jews who exist in vastly greater numbers than Jews.
5. Judaism has recorded a long history of what it calls persecution over thousands of years. This information is without context and proof, certainly much of the oldest material.
6. Jews are the eternal victims.
7. Jews can never be wrong. They are always innocents persecuted because they are Jews.
8. Jews can never be safe surrounded by goyim.
9. Jews should be in control because they are superior as humans .
10. If Jews are not in control they are at greater risk (This would be the motivation behind Jewish efforts to infiltrate Government, politics and media in countries where they live and behind the delusional concept that Jews can only be safe in their own State which is run by and controlled by Jews.)
Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews.
This kind of paranoid victim/supremacist mentality creates great psychological and emotional dysfunction. We see that in the State of Israel, where if you like the cult is most entrenched and has had the greatest freedom to live such beliefs, consciously and unconsciously.
What Israel tells the world and should tell Jews is that their religion creates dysfunction and poor psychological health. There are aspects of Judaism, like Reform, which have tried to rewire the religion for the modern world, but I suspect the power of Morphic Resonance, the energy field for Judaism and Jews, which has influenced them for thousands of years and continues to do so, makes it difficult if not impossible for even Reform Jews to free themselves from the ancient chains of belief.
In short, they need our help and the first act must and should be to totally dismantle Zionist Israel and end the Jewish cult which poisons the religion and its followers and makes life hell on earth for millions of people in the Middle East.
I was with you mostly until this: "Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews."
Just like Islam, there is a wide range of thought among Jews of the world. And that's taking it way too far, far too overconfidently, and even dangerously. I personally know many "Jews" (mother, mother and father Ashkenazi) who don't give a shit about being in control, let alone being part of some group of special, chosen people.
My issue with diaspora and Israeli Judaism is that they either fully support what the Zionists are doing (establishing a settler colonial apartheid state, cleansing the land of non-Jews, giving non-Jews less than equal status, and murdering/genociding Arabs/Muslims) or they are not nearly as vocally opposed to it - in public - as they claim to be in private. There are exceptions like Jewish Voice for Peace and B'Tselem who do excellent work, but even they are shunned or outright attacked by the majority of Zionists and ignored by other supposedly non-Zionist Jews. It's also not helpful that Jews are the only group who seem to think they can simultaneously be a "race" and a "religion" all at once. Islam and Christianity are far more pragmatic and even superior in that regard. For example, you'll never find a Jew let alone a Zionist proselytizing to others to CONVERT to Judaism - least of all in a systematic campaign like Christianity and Islam.
If you could find some self discipline and stop resorting to peronal insults and abuse it would waste less time for everyone.
Do not be ridiculous. There is no way one individual can ask a question of world Jewry or get an answer.
Jews have to do this for themselves. They need to come together and ask the question, which, by the way some Jews are already asking.
Zionism, Judaism and Jews are conflated and it has nothing to do with my approach.
Zionist Israel claims to represent all Jews as the Jewish State. MOST JEWS NOT ONLY ACCEPT THAT THEY PROMOTE IT. Ergo, Zionism and Jews are conflated.
Many followers of Judaism have always and continue to support, promote, fund, enable Zionist Israel and do NOT challenge its claims to represent Jews, followers of the religion of Judaism. Ergo, Judaism and Zionism are conflated.
AND FFS YOU SHOULD STOP DICTATING TO OTHERS WHAT TO SAY AND HOW TO SAY IT. None of your bloody business. Read or don't read is the only decision you have to make.
The focus on Palestine and on bringing people together and to have compassion for all REQUIRES PUTTING THE FOCUS ON ZIONISM, JUDAISM AND JEWS AND THE PART THEY PLAY IN CREATING THE EVIL THAT IS ISRAEL AND ITS GENOCIDAL POLICIES. Logic.
It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal. It is however possible and sensible to feel love and compassion for all humans regardless of their culture.
"It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal". Your sweeping statement Roslyn Ross, is very pompous and patronising. I don't think "other cultures" need your love or compassion.
The anthropological term " Cultural relativism" recognises the diversity of human cultures and the equal validity of each.
But the way the western culture has embraced genocide you wouldn't say that it is equal or valid, would you ?
If Western culture has embraced genocide then can you please demonstrate how India and China, both non-Western cultures, have acted to condemn and prevent genocide? Many thanks.
You make the mistake of thinking the US represents Western culture, or whatever people believe Western culture might be. It does not.
Western culture is essentially the modern world and it likes to think it is the democratic world but that is no more than variations on the theme of democracy. The US is not a democracy but a Constitutional Republic and its system of the Electoral College. There are democratic aspects to the US but it is hardly representative of the Western democratic world.
https://factmyth.com/factoids/the-united-states-of-america-is-a-democracy/
If you think highly patriarchal and misogynistic cultures are the equal of those which allow freedom and independence for people and particularly for women then you are not thinking clearly. Of course all cultures are not equal.
In Malawi witchcraft is still powerful and Albinos are killed for their body parts to be used in spells and old women are still murdered as witches. So, no, all cultures are not equal.
AND SORRY MATE BUT MISOGYNY, INFANTICIDE, WITCHCRAFT DO NOT HAVE EQUAL VALIDITY. What a ridiculous position.
It is wrong to say Western culture has embraced genocide given how many people in Western cultures are protesting against it.
What you need to remember is that the average person does not care much about what goes on beyond their world and life and they rely on mainstream media for their information. That is changing, particularly with younger generations accessing alternative information sites.
What you can say is that domination of the US and its obsession with Israel, has allowed genocide to happen, indeed, armed it to happen, and too many gutless allies have gone along with it. That is however beginning to change. None of that represents Western culture.
The domination of the world by one State, the US, does not represent Western culture or its values. Neither does genocide, occupation, colonisation, ethnic cleansing. The fact these things exist is not because of Western culture but because of flaws and failings in human nature.
And let us not be total hypocrites. Genocide and ethnic cleansing go on in some places all the time, particularly Africa and India and they are not Western cultures.
Indu, Roslyn Ross has already made excuses and tried to deny the Genocide of ethnic/native Australians (in one of her other posts/comments). She is a certified Pro-Colonialist (and hence will try and defend Genocides by the West in ways that seem acceptable and permissible - i.e. using deceptive language and methods to appear as presentable as possible).
Such people (like Roslyn Ross) absolutely DISGUST me beyond belief. She disparages so many cultures in her attempts to defend the West - Indian culture, African cultures, and more.
And notice how she NEVER explicitly focuses on the U.S. Empire and their DIRECT involvement in the Genocide of the Palestinians (since 1948). She will always tru to put ALL the blame on Jews and Israel instead of expanding the scope of guilty parties and focusing on the West (which created this mess and dystopian situation to begin with).
Also, I rarely find her mentioning CAPITALISM (and everything that it entails - like imperialism, all forms of colonialism, etc.) as an extremely prominent factor in the behavior of Western nations in the destruction of 'not only the Palestinian people', but also large parts of the Global South.
[PS: If she sees this comment, she will try to employ her usual trick of 'take one statement I have made and make a credible case that it amounts to a hatred of Judaism and Jews or other cultures' to deflect from any honest criticism of her views/opinions. And when people produce copies amounts of evidence as to her culpability in all this, she simply ignores facts and logic as if they don't apply to 'any of her criticisms' - like she is 'above and beyond' being held accountable by logic.]
What is sad/horrible is that such kinds of 'White Supremacists' and racists (like Roslyn Ross) are all to common - one simply has to look at the MAGA cult (in the U.S.) and similar far-right groups in other Western nations - to see how they prey on the weak minded using manufactured moral panics of 'white replacement theory' and 'anti-immigration' narratives.
I have said what I needed to say to you (and what people need to know about you and your behavior). EVERYONE here (and elsewhere) observes your words and behavior. Some are deceived by your methods. Others are smarter to pick up on your strategies and lack of logic and strawman arguments and deflections and introduction of extraneous information and tangents and distractions and fallacious comparisons and more.
I will go back to being depressed and angry about the plight of the Palestinians and the world - but you do YOU - whatever rocks your boat - whatever helps you create 'more hate' in the world - whatever helps you 'divide people' further.
Odd is it not that you are the only one saying it and people are not lining up behind you validating your insults and abuse. You might want to ponder that.
I shall ignore your silly insult posts in future. Happy to discuss like adults any reasonable points you make, should they appear.
Yes, she brings her opinions up a lot and it never shows much logic. It's my opinion that ignoring her is best or a whole day could be wasted on the back and forth.
You can make an exception for any culture that promotes their own racist superiority and culture of murder and theft.
Jesus Christ Chang. All those posts about not conflating “Judaism and Zionism” are getting REALLY. FUCKING. IRRITATING.
Polls indicate that over 3/4 of Amerikkkan Jews support what IsraHell is doing in Palestine (yep, West Bank too.) Katie Halper, Max Blumenthal, Norman Finkelstein nonewithstanding.
How many times do I have to fucking say this? IT AINT QUAKERS bombing and starving Palestinians!
Or Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Or Buddhists.
Or Taoists.
Go ahead and call me an antisemite. I could not give a flying fuck less, because I am an ACTUAL TRUE SEMITE, pal!
Gypsy, are you able to differentiate between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism? You don't really seem to care. You don't seem to understand WHY making such differentiations is important.
>>"How many times do I have to fucking say this? IT AINT QUAKERS bombing and starving Palestinians!"
No - its Zionists - Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists. It's also all the non-Zionists in the Western world (and all other nations) that provide support to Israel in myriad ways.
Also, take AND use your righteous anger for what is happening in this world (and believe me, you are not the ONLY one that is angry), but also use valid judgement and blame assignment in the process.
If you don't understand how the Palestinian cause is harmed by NOT making these important distinctions, then you should think a bit more on this.
Non-Zionist and Pro-Palestine groups have been on the side of Palestine LONG before Oct.7, and have been protesting and fighting against Zionism and Israel. (Do your research if you are not aware of this FACT). Hence, to not ally with the people on our side (the side of the Palestinians) is sheer folly.
But yeah, sure - if YOUR feelings are more important than the Palestinians to you, if YOUR anger is more important than the Palestinians to you, then go ahead with your PURE EMOTIONAL approach to fighting against Israel and Zionism and see how far that gets you.
Initially Zionists were atheists and assimilationists like Herzl and Weissman - working in league with Luciferian Occultist European Imperialists, and anti-Jewish Bigots, who wanted the Jews somewhere ELSE - far away from them, and Europe. The Rothschilds, being in the two former groups, sponsored the Scofield Bible, to promote Zionism to Christian evangelicals.
There was ONE Rabbi, who joined with the Zionists, for some reason - Rabbi Kook. He tortured some reasoning, and decided it was somehow acceptable, according to Judaism. It didn't catch on.
Zionism was a minority position in world Jewry, until 1967, when they captured Jerusalem. At that point things began moving on all fronts for them. Perhaps the religious community saw the temporary and ultra-vires success, of winning Jerusalem, as a sign that G-d supported them. Since then, Rothschild money has bought a lot of traction in all sectors of world Jewry. They have monstrous Rabbis, who preach the "Right to Rape" (gentiles) and Genocide (again, only Goyim).
If Jews want safety - then Encino and Beverly Hills are the Promised Land.
Send ‘em all to Noo Yawk Shitty, then push that shithole into the Atlantic.
They better run fast….I$rael is on its way out of the community of nations…!!! ❤️🇵🇸❤️
Well said
Well said!
The Bible is clear: Biblical Jews were given a chance by God of moving from humanity stage to near or at angelic more or less in several to many attempts really failing all leaving God to make the tribes wander the earth until relocated in mini tribes where destructive aspects would me mi imized..essentially reducing them to level of rest of humanity..cursed but with avg blessings more importantly hope was left them..
So long before Zionists Jews were in moral turmoil,including Baal ,Moloch,etc demon worship tendencies of some..
Yet,there's evidence God's let the 12 tribes wander to purify evils out worked to great degrees and Zionists seized on worse of them remnants and their demons in hijack jews and demon powers resurgence bid likely plotted by Lucifer himself evidenced further by how Zionists have world on brink of largest ,bloodiest war ever,aligning with Biblical predictions and revelations where actions of fallen angels would overcome those of mankind in a demonic release God would pernit to bring matters to a just head and finale, resolutions, wheat from chaffe etc.
The Bible is relevant only to followers of Christianity and Judaism. The Bible is not historical or archaeological fact and therefore it is not clear.
I believe all religious books are meant to be read as metaphor and not literal and the problems of the past few thousand years, the age of left-brain dominant patriarchy, is that they have been literalised.
Can anyone imagine the 'gossip' handed down through History. All 'gossip' gets changed. How can we believe in this Book?
If you read the Bible as metaphor it makes far more sense. Same for all religious writings.
Do "values" actually matter anymore when the vast and overwhelming majority of Jews continue to fund, support, lie, spread propaganda and fight for Israel. Are we not past the point of no return for Jews and their "values"? Have they not proven that they will do anything to support Israel and its continued war crimes (which seems to have lost all meaning)? Are we not at a point where it is obvious that the majority of Jews will be very happy and relieved to have Palestinians wiped from the earth only to take their land? Have they not said it over and over and over? Are they not carrying out their planned ethnic cleansing of Palestine? At what point will the world realize that this is not a conflict, but a planned genocide of epic proportions being committed and supported by Jews? Do values matter any more? An irrelevant smoke screen.
Unfortunately, Jews (people who follow the Torah, and worship G-d) are vastly outnumbered by the Satanic and Heretical movement of Zionists. It's a huge victory for the Luciferian Occultist family known as the Rothschilds, and a huge downfall for actual Jews and Judaism. All that matters is that Jews, true to their faith in G-d and the Torah have a ‘minyan’ (a group of ten to pray) left, to preserve the authentic faith. The rest are all just Satanists cosplaying and worshipping a Golden Calf, called “Israel”.
Well said AWIP, thank you! 🙏
We're Zionists involved in holocaust ie focus on cooperations shall we say with Germans killing non Ashkenazi orthodox Jews?
Are Ashke Nazis killing millions of Palestine Jews by DNA proofs now?
Not in the millions yet, but the Zionists are working on it…!!! 🇵🇸
Waters turned off over a year,to feed 5 million for 1 to 2 years requires massive cooperation daily operations admitted long blocked,reserve food maybe 2 - 3 months max more likely 3 weeks though..= most dead over a year and we're getting false reports of cruel skirmishes to pacificy.
Folks it's simple food and water delivery math..never mind the rest of the act..Max alive is 15 percent, likely 3 percent well fed and watered,always isolated far from other killings to be released as a photo opp claiming their over 4.5 million when their 150-400 k ie max you can keep alive in tents that long, come-on do the simple math people..most are dead and they fooled you again..but then most of us don't want to know ..just to get ours..why God and angels having hard time loving us..even though better then Zionist demon lovers!
I feel your basing that on reports coming in from controlled sources and cuz they're admittedly still horrible to sell us it's true we buy it ..when I'm fact all buildings virtually gone, encampments they admit are 90 percent plus off camera..warnings over 2 million subject to immediate starvation or lack of water etc not one year old but 2...all real reporters,UN workers killed, replaced with Zionists, same with Hama ie hollowed out to zilch what small percentage weren't Zionist infiltration spysy, actors (likely,no,?).
Tell me strongest evidences you've heard that majority of Gaza 2.2 million or west bank 3.2 are alive and why we should bet the whole farm on it sir?
Tony Greenstein has a whole book on Zionist collaboration with the Nazis. There's another author (Lani Brewer?, or perhaps something similar) that has a bunch of letters, including one from Itzhak Shamir to Himmler, as I recall, from during WWII.
MOST of the Jews killed, in the Nazi Genocide were Ashkenazi. And I think that most of the Zionists were also Ashkenazi. So it was secular atheist Jews, feeding religious non- and anti-Zionist Jews to the Nazis. Zionists in Germany, took advantage of "the Transfer Agreement" and relocated early.
Hitler and Germans were very against the bankers who likely were Zionist Ashkenazi but also European eukrainian largely seems a semi secret?
Could it be a deal was made with Ashkenazi Zionists to relinquish banks to extent, share loot with swiss and Vatican and Rothschild s and feign Zionist being majority killed in camps by leaving false train and camp name records, really just killing alot of gypsies and undesirables ,Russian Jews etc and sliding out of camps discreetly Zionists,then sending them off to Palestine to create new phony non Jew Israel with plot to continue Orthodox Jew, Christian Holocaust ie real one in palistine, middle east for their master, Lucifer of the Talmud they worship.
Rosslyn Ross, I can't respond to your latest comment at the location (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/sorry-if-this-is-antisemitic-but/comment/120788899) since your friend, Tom, has BLOCKED me.
Hence, I shall respond to it here ->
>>"Zionist Israel claims to represent Judaism and Jews? That is absolute. It is a fact. It is not in doubt."
EXACTLY my point. This is what Zionists do. This is their Hasbara. Smart and critical thinking people SHOULD NOT fall for Zionist hasbara.
Let me repeat -> "Smart and critical thinking people SHOULD NOT fall for Zionist hasbara."
Zionists purposely CONFLATE Jews, Judaism, Zionism so that ALL Jews ALL over the world are BLAMED for the actions of 'the monstrosity and absolute EVIL that is Israel'. That is BY DESIGN. Hence, it is UNWISE to fall into this TRAP that the Zionists have made.
Some simple Yes/No questions:
(1) Do you agree that there are some some Jews that are Zionists?
(2) Do you agree that there are some Jews that are NOT Zionists?
(3) Are YOU, Roslyn Ross, able to distinguish between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism? I'm not talking about anyone else in the world being able to distinguish. I'm asking you DIRECTLY - are you able to make these distinctions? Or do you think Jews = Judaism = Zionism?
Your answers to the above (simple, straight-forward) questions will provide much insight into WHY you think the way you do.
>>"Since most Jews do not challenge that claim and there is no unified Judaic opposition"
It is really irrelevant what most Jews claim or what 'WE THINK' most Jews claim (since there is no rigorous, exhaustive poll/survey (which in itself is subject to sampling and bias issues, not to mention variations in moods and human psychology) that has tabulated the response of EVERY SINGLE JEW on the planet), we can only make guesstimates (we don't even know the margin of error for such statistical calculations) that could potentially be wildly inaccurate.
The BURDEN of differentiation and distinction (between Jews, Judaism, Zionism) is on EVERY PERSON on the planet (regardless of what a Jew or a person of Judaic faith or a Zionist believes or does not believe). Just as the burden of differentiation of 'different sects of Christianity or Islam' lies on the observer (when such differentiations are of importance to world events), the same applies to Jews of different belief systems.
Hence, your "Logic, reason and reality must then conclude that Zionism, Judaism and Jews are welded together as a unit." is DEFUNCT - i.e. there is no logic involved here. NONE. There is NO logic, reason, (and let's not even get into the subjectiveness and variations of reality and perceptions of reality) in ANY of this. But you would know this if you understood logic (even at a rudimentary level), as these are the basic steps of philosophical logic (and I doubt you are prepared to go into formal logic into all this - it requires axioms and symbolisms that I'm familiar with (as per my background in Computer Science)).
Hence, pure simple logic says the OPPOSITE - there is no welding - logic doesn't work on what someone believes or what someone says they believe - it works on mathematical principles. We are getting beyond the scope of what is conveniently discussable in this format without going into logic theory, but suffice to say that ->
(a) there are multiple permutations and combinations (combinatorial logic) on the different kinds of groupings possible concerning the 3 entities (Jews, Judaism, Zionism)
(b) Each such unique group (formed from the above permutation and combination) will have unique characteristics that will differ from other such groups (based on basic logic of groupings (i.e. sets) from from the different P/C (abbreviation for permutation/combination).
(c) Each such P/C group/set would be assigned a statistical calculation as to their beliefs.
(d) As per Set Theory, there will be intersections and unions amongst these different sets based on a particular set's belief systems overlapping (based on different criteria) with those of another set.
Hence, when the Math is all said and done, you will land up with multiple groups (eg. Zionists that are not Jews, Jews that do not believe in Judaism but are Zionists, Jews that believe in Judaism that are NOT Zionists, etc. etc. and much more complicated groupings based on sub-modalities of belief systems.
This is already getting somewhat abstract (and I feel most people would have lost me by this point of time in the comment).
To wrap up this point, all this goes to show that your 'WELDING' that you believe is ANYTHING BUT welding. It is a smorgasbord of unwelded groups (sets) that agree on some beliefs and disagree on others (simple example: think how some Orthodox Jews support Zionism and some don't).
So, there is NO LOGIC in the WORLD that can achieve this 'magical and fictional' welding that you claim. To deny this is to deny basic logic and math (which you seem to do SO OFTEN in most of your comments).
Q.E.D.
Roslyn Ross, based on your comments, I suggest you forget mentioning logic and reason in your comments - since you have none (or very little).
But go ahead and try your shit with people that have limited understanding of logic - they might actually fall for it (and apparently there seem to be quite a few in this world).
>>"If they did not then they would rise up as a majority and condemn the Israeli State and separate themselves from it."
This is SO ABSURD that it belies your understanding of reality, how social groups work and coordinate, how challenging organizing groups based on commonalities and differences is, and more.
But like I've said before - you are NOT an honest person, and you lack intellectual honesty AND integrity (not to mention an inadequate understdanding of historical analysis and historiography. All you have (and depend on) are your biases, your racist beliefs, your lived life experiences, your prejudices, and your narratives.
Hence, all this makes you the person you present yourself to be (and often try to hide the ugly aspects of it).
I am going to follow (from now on) the advice of another commentator on this article and what she said here (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/sorry-if-this-is-antisemitic-but/comment/120774859)
I have no idea who Tom is and the fact we agree on some things does not make us friends.
You said:EXACTLY my point. This is what Zionists do. This is their Hasbara. Smart and critical thinking people SHOULD NOT fall for Zionist hasbara.
We agree that Israel claims to represent Judaism and Jews. The problem for you is most Jews also agree with that and fund, promote and support the State and call it the Jewish State. If Jews did not do that it would simply be hasbara, but, because Jews do agree with the Israeli claim then logically they are complicit.
You said:Zionists purposely CONFLATE Jews, Judaism, Zionism so that ALL Jews ALL over the world are BLAMED for the actions of 'the monstrosity and absolute EVIL that is Israel'. That is BY DESIGN.
Sure, but the problem is most Jews do not only allow them to do that they encourage and fund them to do that. So most Jews accept their claims and conflate is not the issue.
If Most Jews did not support Israel’s claims it would be a different matter, but they do support and promote those claims. And yes, Zionists may well want Jews to be blamed for what they do because their end goal is to terrify gullible Jews into upping stakes and moving as colonists to Palestine, and in the future, Lebanon and Syria.
You said:Hence, it is UNWISE to fall into this TRAP that the Zionists have made.
Since most Jews have fallen into the trap your statement is ridiculous.
Some simple Yes/No questions:
(1) Do you agree that there are some some Jews that are Zionists?
Yes. (But I think Zionist principles are entrenched in Judaism and so most Jews hold consciously and unconsciously Zionist principles)
(2) Do you agree that there are some Jews that are NOT Zionists?
Yes. But not many. (But I think Zionist principles are entrenched in Judaism and so most Jews hold consciously and unconsciously Zionist principles)
(3) Are YOU, Roslyn Ross, able to distinguish between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism?
Jews are followers of a religion; Judaism is a religion; Zionism is a fascist, racist political movement which draws on Judaism and Jewish beliefs. They are welded together.
You said:I'm not talking about anyone else in the world being able to distinguish. I'm asking you DIRECTLY - are you able to make these distinctions? Or do you think Jews = Judaism = Zionism?
If you do not believe in Judaism and its God you are not a Jew. Zionist principles are sourced in Judaic teachings. So, generally Jews do equal Judaism and equal Zionism with some rare and brave exceptions. I am talking about real Jews not the fake atheist/secular who claim to be Jews but are not.
Your answers to the above (simple, straight-forward) questions will provide much insight into WHY you think the way you do.
You said: It is really irrelevant what most Jews claim
It is not irrelevant. If a rogue State committed atrocities in the name of Christians and said it was the Christian State and most Christians did not reject that claim but instead supported it and funded the State then it would behove all Christians to come together to take action against the rogue State and its atrocities. Same for Jews.
You said: (since there is no rigorous, exhaustive poll/survey (which in itself is subject to sampling and bias issues, not to mention variations in moods and human psychology) that has tabulated the response of EVERY SINGLE JEW on the planet),
Well if various Christian sects and groups can get together and formulate statements then why not Jews? I mean real Jews not atheist fakes. All forms of Judaic expression are perfectly capable of tabulating a response. It does not have to be every Jew on the planet but it has to be every Jewish sect or group.
You said: The BURDEN of differentiation and distinction (between Jews, Judaism, Zionism) is on EVERY PERSON on the planet
NO IT IS NOT. Because for 77 years there has been no distinction between Jews, Judaism and Zionism and that is a problem for Jews.
You said: Hence, your "Logic, reason and reality must then conclude that Zionism, Judaism and Jews are welded together as a unit." is DEFUNCT
Quite the opposite. Until Judaism and its followers stand up united and reject Zionism and Israel then they are welded together as a unit.
You sid: (a) there are multiple permutations and combinations (combinatorial logic) on the different kinds of groupings possible concerning the 3 entities (Jews, Judaism, Zionism)
A Jew is a follower of Judaism and most Jews support Zionism and Israel. They are not separate but one.
You said:L This is already getting somewhat abstract (and I feel most people would have lost me by this point of time in the comment).
Yes it is.
>>"If they did not then they would rise up as a majority and condemn the Israeli State and separate themselves from it."
You said: This is SO ABSURD that it belies your understanding of reality, how social groups work and coordinate, how challenging organizing groups based on commonalities and differences is, and more.
What is absurd is a religion and its followers failing to condemn a State which commits genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, murder, torture, theft for 77 years in its name, and is the greatest intentional mass murderer of children in human history.
LET US ALL BOW DOWN TO THE ALL-KNOWING CHANG.
Are you going to be trolling me too like Russian_bot?
So all those bombs they’ve dropped have sent untold amounts of toxic dust (filled with asbestos) and vapors in the atmosphere, the aquifers, the waste water. They’re not planning to inhabit it. They’ve long planned the Ben Gurion Canal. Now it can cut a straighter line. They intend to bury, vaporize, maim, starve any native Palestinian who refuses to leave.
But the prevailing winds flow from Gaza to Israel. So all those pollutants are blowing onto Israelis. But they don’t care about them either. They’re just the sheep who jeered on their own (eventual) demise. Much like Stateside. A criminal enterprise running both countries.
The USA will pay their medical bills...although mesothelioma is a hell of a way to go.
The USA doesn't even pay our own peoples' medical bills and you're probably right about the IOF's - the US taxpayer is on the hook for that little bastion of great evil in the Levant.
What is 'mesothelioma?'
Jenny, it’s a type of lung cancer if I’m not mistaken
What evidence do you have pf palististiniians being allowed to leave either Gaza or West Bank the last day 2 years or even before confirmed by countries receiving? Even if so what evidence is there of leaving allowed last 6 months? Of 5.2 million Palistinians ie 2022,what percentage is likely killed?
None. They’re treating Palestinians the same as though they’re shooting fish in a barrel…there’s nowhere safe to flee. No neighboring country will take them but they understandably don’t want to nor should they have to leave their homeland. And the death toll is clearly exponentially higher than reported.
Logically, likely worse then that and majority held in tents till dead of dehydration over a year ago or forced to dig mass grave holes before dying..and reports of cruel killings of a dozen here or hundred there are too pacify the world into believing it's a semi war ie Hamas still can't be located with no buildings and most sophisticated observations tech
In world ie every square foot.
No,its long over,my bet is less then,3 to 10 percent are left in isolated from rest encampments where they couldn't witness murder of 90 percent..they likely are being well fed relatively and cared for..they'll be released to other countries soon and their numbers will be exaggerated by over 95 percent with payoffs to accepting countries...why? I just realized it's the only way for Israel to get away with a Holocaust and call the quarter million killed casualties of a real war... everything building to this ie strange behaviors with zero real communications Gaza..West Bank rumours I'm less sure of.. but it's Ike west bank never existed nearly ie Gaza,gaza, Gaza..yet confirmed mass WB encampments despite buildings largely saved there?! Likely same fate for west bank,3-10 percent isolated and on good shape for photo opp release to other countries or perhaps a portion of Palestine or close ie 200,000 people made to look like 4.7 million plus and billions paid to cover it all up.
At least that's what I'd do if I wanted to get away with a holocaust in Palestine (ps.phew! I really don't)
Do you realize what it would take to feed and water 5 million
Plus people cut off completely?? This as it's admitted food ,water is being withheld in giant shipping areas for years already,?
Come on you guys your not having the truth obvious,they are 90 percent plus dead and all witnesses ie reporters,UN are missing or dead too..ie over a thousand by my approx count,admitted officially is approx 500! Journalism is a hazardous occupation!
Feel exactly the same way, Caitlin, spot on!
"World Food Programme director Cindy McCain is saying that she’s seen no evidence of Hamas stealing aid entering Gaza." And yet, I still hear on a mainstream news report that Israel says Hamas is preventing the distribution of food aid. So there I was, yelling at my computer asking how they could be such assholes, how they could possibly believe this worn out excuse for Israeli atrocities. I could not ever murder two people, even if they were staunch supporters of Israel, but I can understand how a person might get enraged enough to do something so horrible and not bear in mind that it did not help the cause of the people in Gaza at all.
Technically, Palestinians are a Semitic people, too. And most of them aren’t half European. So, it could be argued that it’s more anti-Semitic to hate Palestinians than it is to hate Jewish people.
Technically the Ashkenazi majority in Israel ARE NOT Semitic people - at all. But yes, the Mizrahi are as are the Palestinians. Sephardic is more blurry - they probably do have some Semitic DNA, but also a lot of Spanish blood.
Exactly. It was Israelis who lobbied to have Semitic to apply only to them. Why do they have to steal every dam thing from Palestinians? Greed, jealousy, to aid their feelings of supremacy. Get over yourselves
Who did they lobby ie semitic term
As an actual historical Semite, I agree.
The Fahmi al-Jarjawi School massacre in Gaza is a reminder of the cost of Israel’s impunity
by Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor
https://countercurrents.org/2025/05/the-fahmi-al-jarjawi-school-massacre-in-gaza-is-a-reminder-of-the-cost-of-israels-impunity/
Israeli forces continue to carry out horrific massacres by bombing shelters, levelling remaining buildings, and imposing unliveable conditions on the Gaza Strip’s population. Yesterday’s attack targeted a school sheltering displaced persons in the Al-Daraj neighbourhood of central Gaza City, killing at least 30 civilians, more than half of them women and children. Following the attack, most of the bodies were completely charred.
“What Will I Tell My Brother?”: Gaza Doctor Wakes to Find His Nine Children Killed in Israeli Strike
by Quds News Network
https://countercurrents.org/2025/05/what-will-i-tell-my-brother-gaza-doctor-wakes-to-find-his-nine-children-killed-in-israeli-strike/
Ali Al-Najjar faced two impossible choices today: evacuate his family from the danger zone—even though nowhere in Gaza is safe—or stay by the hospital bedside of his wounded brother, Dr. Hamdi Al-Najjar. Hours earlier, an Israeli airstrike hit Hamdi’s family home in Khan Younis without warning. The house collapsed like “a biscuit,” Ali said, leaving behind nothing but rubble—and the charred bodies of nine children.
Americans are wading fifty-standing-ovations-deep in the blood of innocent children in Gaza.
"No white supremacist propaganda will ever be as effective at spreading hatred against Jews as openly mass murdering children under a Star of David flag."
Well said. It shows just how deep the psychological illness runs throughout Israel. They can't see the evil that they're doing to Gaza is only going to come back and haunt them someday. Soon, I hope.
"This cannot be allowed to continue. It must not be allowed to continue."
Amen and Amen! The empire must fall--and we each must do our best to push its rotten carcass over the edge of the cliff. Power to the people! Free Palestine!
They appear to have a collective case of malignant narcissism.
The power of impunity has never been so clearly on view. Like a sickness that grows without bounds, a cancer, if you will, that consumes not only the one with the disease, but all around it.
"They (Murdoch) called me a “journalist” in scare quotes." The "journalist," the civilized human, is YOU, Caitlin.
"The empire must fall." Slam dunk. May it happen sooner...insha'Allah.
Viva Palestine!--Hamas, Gaza, ALL of Palestine!
In the immediate aftermath someone connected to the israeli embassy lied to the bbc about the event being in support of the people of Gaza. The event was sponsored by the israeli government, so this is an egregious lie that was posted by the bbc. Why the need to get out this story right away that the alleged shooter had hurt his own cause? There are still many questions that remain about the alleged shooter. The original reports said the shooter was a white male with a goatee. It hasn't been explained yet how the alleged shooter bought his gun, when and why he flew on an airplane from chicago to washington, how he found out about the event held by the israeli embassy, where he stayed while in washington, how he was able to bring his gun and bullets with him through security if he took it on his flight to Washington, and how and why he choose the two victims who worked for the israeli embassy. Many patsies throughout history have had little money and less connections yet they came into money to be able to travel long distances and stay at fancy hotels and spend lots of money in large metropolitan cities. Hasan, the streamer recently detained at the same airport in Chicago, pointed out that before the shooting of the israeli embassy members that israel had been feeling international pressure for having idf soldiers shooting at embassy members of europeans and Chinese in the West Bank in the days leading up to the shooting in washington. If one would search online for israeli embassy shooting one would get this new story of what happened in washington rather than the international incident in the West Bank.
In an article published today on substack by Ken Klippenstein, he writes creating a profile to convict the alleged shooter in the mind of the public knowing that the false flag allegations are already in the air: "When I published Rodriguez’s manifesto — earning me an FBI visit — I stressed how important it was to make these materials public so there wouldn’t be an information vacuum for conspiracy theories to fill. Predictably they have, with many calling the attack a 'false flag' orchestrated by the government to further suppress criticism of Israel. The term 'false flag' even spiked to its highest number of Google searches this year.
'It’s driving me crazy that people are calling it a false flag,' a woman who knew Rodriguez said. 'This development is shocking but not completely out of character,' she remarked, echoing a sentiment expressed by others. They were at first shocked but not ultimately surprised that Rodriguez did what he did.
'He always had strong political convictions,' the woman said. 'From the sound of the manifesto he’s the same as he was.'
In all his rage though, Rodriguez had an almost wide-eyed optimism about the global south, which as a self-identified Maoist Third Worldist, he believed alone had 'revolutionary potential.'
'He was a big proponent of ‘the emerging resistance axis’ of Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, Assad’s Syria,' a friend recalled. “He seemed pretty vocally in favor of Hamas for years — way before 2023. He’d always hated Israel and would call it ‘The Little Satan.’"
Support Ken.
What is Israel’s excuse for deliberately targeting the house of two doctors and their 10 children? What’s their excuse for the targeted mass murder of this family? Why hasn’t the Israeli minister of defence and IDF chief of staff been indicted by the ICC? Why hasn’t the US president and secretary of defence? Why hasn’t the EU cut all diplomatic and trade ties? What excuses do these participants in genocide come with? And what excuses to western media and institutions have for hiding and obfuscating this genocide?
The infrastructure of genocide is a globe-spanning project.
Don't ask, they'll blame it on Hamas is fired rocket - though a homemade rocket would never do that much damage, ever.