I agree and thanks for the links they are excellent. Well, I have not read them carefully nor processed but a first quick read suggests they are excellent.
I do not think there is any doubt that Zionism is sourced in Judaism and that is why it has had so much appeal to Jews.
In psychological terms, a religion, which is to lesser and greater degrees, cult-like, as they all are, will consciously and unconsciously brainwash followers into believing certain things.
Jews have been brainwashed for thousands of years to believe:
1. Jews are the only true humans.
2. Jews are superior as humans and smarter than other humans.
3. Non-jews want to kill Jews.
4. Jews are forever at risk from non-Jews who exist in vastly greater numbers than Jews.
5. Judaism has recorded a long history of what it calls persecution over thousands of years. This information is without context and proof, certainly much of the oldest material.
6. Jews are the eternal victims.
7. Jews can never be wrong. They are always innocents persecuted because they are Jews.
8. Jews can never be safe surrounded by goyim.
9. Jews should be in control because they are superior as humans .
10. If Jews are not in control they are at greater risk (This would be the motivation behind Jewish efforts to infiltrate Government, politics and media in countries where they live and behind the delusional concept that Jews can only be safe in their own State which is run by and controlled by Jews.)
Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews.
This kind of paranoid victim/supremacist mentality creates great psychological and emotional dysfunction. We see that in the State of Israel, where if you like the cult is most entrenched and has had the greatest freedom to live such beliefs, consciously and unconsciously.
What Israel tells the world and should tell Jews is that their religion creates dysfunction and poor psychological health. There are aspects of Judaism, like Reform, which have tried to rewire the religion for the modern world, but I suspect the power of Morphic Resonance, the energy field for Judaism and Jews, which has influenced them for thousands of years and continues to do so, makes it difficult if not impossible for even Reform Jews to free themselves from the ancient chains of belief.
In short, they need our help and the first act must and should be to totally dismantle Zionist Israel and end the Jewish cult which poisons the religion and its followers and makes life hell on earth for millions of people in the Middle East.
I was with you mostly until this: "Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews."
Just like Islam, there is a wide range of thought among Jews of the world. And that's taking it way too far, far too overconfidently, and even dangerously. I personally know many "Jews" (mother, mother and father Ashkenazi) who don't give a shit about being in control, let alone being part of some group of special, chosen people.
My issue with diaspora and Israeli Judaism is that they either fully support what the Zionists are doing (establishing a settler colonial apartheid state, cleansing the land of non-Jews, giving non-Jews less than equal status, and murdering/genociding Arabs/Muslims) or they are not nearly as vocally opposed to it - in public - as they claim to be in private. There are exceptions like Jewish Voice for Peace and B'Tselem who do excellent work, but even they are shunned or outright attacked by the majority of Zionists and ignored by other supposedly non-Zionist Jews. It's also not helpful that Jews are the only group who seem to think they can simultaneously be a "race" and a "religion" all at once. Islam and Christianity are far more pragmatic and even superior in that regard. For example, you'll never find a Jew let alone a Zionist proselytizing to others to CONVERT to Judaism - least of all in a systematic campaign like Christianity and Islam.
I should have been clearer. I made an assumption that when I talked about conscious and unconscious readers would understand the distinction. I say that sincerely and I am not being patronising, even though in this cryptic environment it could sound like that.
You said: was with you mostly until this: "Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews."
What I mean by that is that we can know what we hold consciously as a belief but we do not know and may never necessarily know what unconscious beliefs are at work in us. Unconscious beliefs are handed down through family, cultures, environment and actions - the most powerful lesson a child learns are unspoken said one psychologist and that makes sense to me.
If you grow up in a family/religion/culture which holds certain beliefs you will absorb many of those beliefs without knowing it. This will influence your actions whether you know it or not. Where beliefs are sourced in fear, particularly long-held ancient fears, they become more powerful.
Biologist Rupert Sheldrake explains this well with his theory of morphic resonance.
You said:. I personally know many "Jews" (mother, mother and father Ashkenazi) who don't give a shit about being in control, let alone being part of some group of special, chosen people.
There are always exceptions. But the true exceptions are consciously aware and they act to condemn and reduce wrongs. Lots of people with Jewish ancestry or religion may well consciously believe and state, they do not care about being part of a group of special chosen people when unconsciously that is exactly what they believe.
I think it is important to try to understand why most Jews, and it is most, have continued to fund and enable Israel regardless of its atrocities since 1947. You might argue they did not know but that is an excuse, not a reason. It is certainly an excuse for the past 20 months when not to know must involve a decision not to know. And of course, not necessarily a conscious decision.
How do we know we are making conscious decisions free of unconscious influences? We don't and often we cannot and that is why we must put our actions even more than our statements under forensic study. Actions speak louder than words.
You said: My issue with diaspora and Israeli Judaism is that they either fully support what the Zionists are doing (establishing a settler colonial apartheid state, cleansing the land of non-Jews, giving non-Jews less than equal status, and murdering/genociding Arabs/Muslims) or they are not nearly as vocally opposed to it - in public - as they claim to be in private.
I know many Jews and in the same family I know some who could see the reality of Israel and spoke out against it and other family members denied it all. I suspect there are plenty of Jews who say nothing, think less and still continue to send money and their children to Israel. And they are often vocal in supporting the human rights of everyone but Palestinians.
I agree and thanks for the links they are excellent. Well, I have not read them carefully nor processed but a first quick read suggests they are excellent.
I do not think there is any doubt that Zionism is sourced in Judaism and that is why it has had so much appeal to Jews.
In psychological terms, a religion, which is to lesser and greater degrees, cult-like, as they all are, will consciously and unconsciously brainwash followers into believing certain things.
Jews have been brainwashed for thousands of years to believe:
1. Jews are the only true humans.
2. Jews are superior as humans and smarter than other humans.
3. Non-jews want to kill Jews.
4. Jews are forever at risk from non-Jews who exist in vastly greater numbers than Jews.
5. Judaism has recorded a long history of what it calls persecution over thousands of years. This information is without context and proof, certainly much of the oldest material.
6. Jews are the eternal victims.
7. Jews can never be wrong. They are always innocents persecuted because they are Jews.
8. Jews can never be safe surrounded by goyim.
9. Jews should be in control because they are superior as humans .
10. If Jews are not in control they are at greater risk (This would be the motivation behind Jewish efforts to infiltrate Government, politics and media in countries where they live and behind the delusional concept that Jews can only be safe in their own State which is run by and controlled by Jews.)
Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews.
This kind of paranoid victim/supremacist mentality creates great psychological and emotional dysfunction. We see that in the State of Israel, where if you like the cult is most entrenched and has had the greatest freedom to live such beliefs, consciously and unconsciously.
What Israel tells the world and should tell Jews is that their religion creates dysfunction and poor psychological health. There are aspects of Judaism, like Reform, which have tried to rewire the religion for the modern world, but I suspect the power of Morphic Resonance, the energy field for Judaism and Jews, which has influenced them for thousands of years and continues to do so, makes it difficult if not impossible for even Reform Jews to free themselves from the ancient chains of belief.
In short, they need our help and the first act must and should be to totally dismantle Zionist Israel and end the Jewish cult which poisons the religion and its followers and makes life hell on earth for millions of people in the Middle East.
I was with you mostly until this: "Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews."
Just like Islam, there is a wide range of thought among Jews of the world. And that's taking it way too far, far too overconfidently, and even dangerously. I personally know many "Jews" (mother, mother and father Ashkenazi) who don't give a shit about being in control, let alone being part of some group of special, chosen people.
My issue with diaspora and Israeli Judaism is that they either fully support what the Zionists are doing (establishing a settler colonial apartheid state, cleansing the land of non-Jews, giving non-Jews less than equal status, and murdering/genociding Arabs/Muslims) or they are not nearly as vocally opposed to it - in public - as they claim to be in private. There are exceptions like Jewish Voice for Peace and B'Tselem who do excellent work, but even they are shunned or outright attacked by the majority of Zionists and ignored by other supposedly non-Zionist Jews. It's also not helpful that Jews are the only group who seem to think they can simultaneously be a "race" and a "religion" all at once. Islam and Christianity are far more pragmatic and even superior in that regard. For example, you'll never find a Jew let alone a Zionist proselytizing to others to CONVERT to Judaism - least of all in a systematic campaign like Christianity and Islam.
I should have been clearer. I made an assumption that when I talked about conscious and unconscious readers would understand the distinction. I say that sincerely and I am not being patronising, even though in this cryptic environment it could sound like that.
You said: was with you mostly until this: "Some of these beliefs are consciously held by some Jews but I suspect all of them are unconsciously held by almost all Jews."
What I mean by that is that we can know what we hold consciously as a belief but we do not know and may never necessarily know what unconscious beliefs are at work in us. Unconscious beliefs are handed down through family, cultures, environment and actions - the most powerful lesson a child learns are unspoken said one psychologist and that makes sense to me.
If you grow up in a family/religion/culture which holds certain beliefs you will absorb many of those beliefs without knowing it. This will influence your actions whether you know it or not. Where beliefs are sourced in fear, particularly long-held ancient fears, they become more powerful.
Biologist Rupert Sheldrake explains this well with his theory of morphic resonance.
You said:. I personally know many "Jews" (mother, mother and father Ashkenazi) who don't give a shit about being in control, let alone being part of some group of special, chosen people.
There are always exceptions. But the true exceptions are consciously aware and they act to condemn and reduce wrongs. Lots of people with Jewish ancestry or religion may well consciously believe and state, they do not care about being part of a group of special chosen people when unconsciously that is exactly what they believe.
I think it is important to try to understand why most Jews, and it is most, have continued to fund and enable Israel regardless of its atrocities since 1947. You might argue they did not know but that is an excuse, not a reason. It is certainly an excuse for the past 20 months when not to know must involve a decision not to know. And of course, not necessarily a conscious decision.
How do we know we are making conscious decisions free of unconscious influences? We don't and often we cannot and that is why we must put our actions even more than our statements under forensic study. Actions speak louder than words.
You said: My issue with diaspora and Israeli Judaism is that they either fully support what the Zionists are doing (establishing a settler colonial apartheid state, cleansing the land of non-Jews, giving non-Jews less than equal status, and murdering/genociding Arabs/Muslims) or they are not nearly as vocally opposed to it - in public - as they claim to be in private.
I know many Jews and in the same family I know some who could see the reality of Israel and spoke out against it and other family members denied it all. I suspect there are plenty of Jews who say nothing, think less and still continue to send money and their children to Israel. And they are often vocal in supporting the human rights of everyone but Palestinians.