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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"We live in a nightmare of a civilization, under an empire that is fueled by human blood. The closer you examine it, the uglier it gets."

👉This cannot be allowed to continue. It must not be allowed to continue.

👉The empire must fall.

Caitlin, even though I don't believe in God (or hell) I wish for Israelis and Zionists whatever they are doing to the Palestinians (and worse) -> they DESERVE to BURN IN HELL for ETERNITY. If this makes me a bad/evil person (and according to some it might), I really don't care!

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

They WILL (burn in hell) - and you're not (bad/evil)... At least not for coming to the reasonable pronouncement of the appropriate Sentence, on behalf of a wise, and moral, and loving Creator.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Thank you! Even though I don't believe in God, I PRAY, PRAY, PRAY with EVERY FIBER of my being to MAKE THIS STOP! I understand how Aaron Bushnell felt. I empathize with him. I understand how so many of us are feeling.

What I am incapable of understanding - is the level of suffering being endured by the Palestinians (and especially Gazans) - try as I might, I don't think I'm remotely close to being able to comprehend the depth of their suffering 😭😥...

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Davina's avatar

After watching this daily for the past twenty months I, too, am amazed at how they can still stand, run to help where they can, carry those injured in the hope something can be done for them. All while they are being bombed, shot at by ^brave^ IOF snipers at a distance-if I could get my hands on one of them they'd wish they had never seen a rifle let alone used on--dig through the rubble of bombed homes in hope of saving someone.

All this as Israelis try to scare protesters into silence. Well, we will not be silenced, we will not stop, we will never, ever forget what you have done to an unarmed, caged by you, Palestinians simply because you want their land. You, Israel, do not deserve any land, anywhere near humans. End of.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Well, we will not be silenced, we will not stop, we will never, ever forget what you have done to an unarmed, caged by you, Palestinians simply because you want their land. You, Israel, do not deserve any land, anywhere near humans. End of."

💯👏👍🙏

Fuck Israel! Fuck Zionists! Free Palestine! ❤️❤️❤️

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Michael Green's avatar

As I watch local news there is a man hero for pulling a dog from storm rubble. There is the calamity of a few houses destroyed by a tornado. People are scared of 6 inch hailstones, and too much rain ruins the holiday weekend. A car wreck on the freeway. And then I think of the superficiality of this all, and of the untold consequences of the genocide and famine, non-ending blasts,unthinkable thirst and hunger, pervasive fear, babies and children under rubble, steel bullets and concrete smashing flesh, a country, a people of 2 million being destroyed, 30 miles of complete rubble. And the gasps with our news, and that horror that is unwatchable, unspeakable, hidden, so life goes on here with our discomforts and blindfolds.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I think it is fractal. Pain and suffering all the way down.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"...so life goes on here with our discomforts and blindfolds."

What you say is so true, and really unfortunate. Is it a flaw of human nature/psychology to be concerned primarily with one's environment and loved ones at the expense of more pressing problems in the world and for humanity? Or is it a survival mechanism of human nature/psychology in the way that it works?

Or is it BOTH? Or some combination of the two?

Interesting to think about...don't really know the answers to such questions. Well, I can certainly say that humans are complicated and contradictory in their behaviors.

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Michael Green's avatar

What is not mutually exclusive is the ability to care for your family and community and also understand the violence that is being perpetrated in our name. What we see and hear is a consequence of massive propaganda, diversionary tactics, lies, the need to placate our peoples to keep the order ordained from above. Nightly news broadcasts such as from the battlefields in Viet Nam are now verboten. Real news can be found scattered on the Internet but main stream viewing and news print are severely restricted to a prescribed bland formula. The desperate legions behind MAGA are pulling back the curtain, a violent outcry, as opposed to an orderly process such as with B. Sanders, who is sabotaged from within our political system.

So what are real examples of this iron fisted control. Look no further than the call to war in Iraq after 911 and the patriotism manipulated by Bush and company. 911 was a Saudi attack, not Hussein in Iraq. Look no further than the overnight campaign, without national discussion, to support Ukraine and Ukraine’s potential ultimate destruction in a U.S. promoted proxy war with Russia. Look no further than the military and financial support of a Palestinian genocide and any dissent is labeled as criminal antisemitism.

People need to awaken to the horrific consequences of the actions of our government and say, no more in our name, no more in my name! How can we preach love and family values, and be so hypocritical. It is disturbing, very disturbing. What type of nation are we???

Wake up, seek the truth.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"What type of nation are we???"

Do you really want to know?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"What type of nation are we???"

My guess is - we seem to be the type of nation that we have always been - one built on Genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, slavery, racism, oppression and exploitation, 'might is right' narratives, and more.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Far too horrendous to comprehend.. At this point a nuke dropped in the middle of Tel Aviv would be appropriate.

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David Baird's avatar

You're not bad or evil, Chang, just someone with a finely honed sense of justice.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Chang believes in Justice? Ha.

He is trying to push me off substack. Just mentioned the food presented to the Palestinians by the USA.

Pasta = how do you cook this without water.

Dried beans = hours to cook.

This is a sham.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

You are a TROLL Jenny Stokes - you make people like Russian_bot possibly look good. Congratulations! I didn't think something like that was ever possible.

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Michael Green's avatar

Chang. We are God in our finest hours, we are Satan in our most despicable moments.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Maybe most of us here are (I understand that you are speaking in the abstract). But I can't attribute the same sentiment to ALL humans - definitely not to ultra-fascistic ones belonging to ideologies like Nazism and Zionism.

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Michael Green's avatar

That is a separate category, pure evil.

Unfortunately, in the eyes of much of the world, the U.S. Empire has entered this category- causing millions of deaths, many more millions displaced, disruption of democracies, bullying, life threatening sanctions, a corrupted capitalistic system that destroys our Earth and anyone that gets in the way.

Some say this is the natural order, the dominant rule and innocents die. I think we should be at a higher healthier level of consciousness and morality.

And beware, an extinction event may be on the table by nuclear war or severe climate changes. This is the time to lay down our weapons and all come together to work toward a better outcome. Some tell me I am too idealistic. We will see.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Completely agree with you Michael Green! 💯

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Larry Morrow's avatar

Not for one minute…!!! 🇵🇸

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

I share your feelings completely!

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