If you could find some self discipline and stop resorting to peronal insults and abuse it would waste less time for everyone.
Do not be ridiculous. There is no way one individual can ask a question of world Jewry or get an answer.
Jews have to do this for themselves. They need to come together and ask the question, which, by the way some Jews are already asking.
Zionism, Judaism and Jews are conflated and it has nothing to do with my approach.
Zionist Israel claims to represent all Jews as the Jewish State. MOST JEWS NOT ONLY ACCEPT THAT THEY PROMOTE IT. Ergo, Zionism and Jews are conflated.
Many followers of Judaism have always and continue to support, promote, fund, enable Zionist Israel and do NOT challenge its claims to represent Jews, followers of the religion of Judaism. Ergo, Judaism and Zionism are conflated.
AND FFS YOU SHOULD STOP DICTATING TO OTHERS WHAT TO SAY AND HOW TO SAY IT. None of your bloody business. Read or don't read is the only decision you have to make.
The focus on Palestine and on bringing people together and to have compassion for all REQUIRES PUTTING THE FOCUS ON ZIONISM, JUDAISM AND JEWS AND THE PART THEY PLAY IN CREATING THE EVIL THAT IS ISRAEL AND ITS GENOCIDAL POLICIES. Logic.
It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal. It is however possible and sensible to feel love and compassion for all humans regardless of their culture.
"It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal". Your sweeping statement Roslyn Ross, is very pompous and patronising. I don't think "other cultures" need your love or compassion.
The anthropological term " Cultural relativism" recognises the diversity of human cultures and the equal validity of each.
But the way the western culture has embraced genocide you wouldn't say that it is equal or valid, would you ?
If you think highly patriarchal and misogynistic cultures are the equal of those which allow freedom and independence for people and particularly for women then you are not thinking clearly. Of course all cultures are not equal.
In Malawi witchcraft is still powerful and Albinos are killed for their body parts to be used in spells and old women are still murdered as witches. So, no, all cultures are not equal.
AND SORRY MATE BUT MISOGYNY, INFANTICIDE, WITCHCRAFT DO NOT HAVE EQUAL VALIDITY. What a ridiculous position.
It is wrong to say Western culture has embraced genocide given how many people in Western cultures are protesting against it.
What you need to remember is that the average person does not care much about what goes on beyond their world and life and they rely on mainstream media for their information. That is changing, particularly with younger generations accessing alternative information sites.
What you can say is that domination of the US and its obsession with Israel, has allowed genocide to happen, indeed, armed it to happen, and too many gutless allies have gone along with it. That is however beginning to change. None of that represents Western culture.
The domination of the world by one State, the US, does not represent Western culture or its values. Neither does genocide, occupation, colonisation, ethnic cleansing. The fact these things exist is not because of Western culture but because of flaws and failings in human nature.
And let us not be total hypocrites. Genocide and ethnic cleansing go on in some places all the time, particularly Africa and India and they are not Western cultures.
If Western culture has embraced genocide then can you please demonstrate how India and China, both non-Western cultures, have acted to condemn and prevent genocide? Many thanks.
You make the mistake of thinking the US represents Western culture, or whatever people believe Western culture might be. It does not.
Western culture is essentially the modern world and it likes to think it is the democratic world but that is no more than variations on the theme of democracy. The US is not a democracy but a Constitutional Republic and its system of the Electoral College. There are democratic aspects to the US but it is hardly representative of the Western democratic world.
Indu, Roslyn Ross has already made excuses and tried to deny the Genocide of ethnic/native Australians (in one of her other posts/comments). She is a certified Pro-Colonialist (and hence will try and defend Genocides by the West in ways that seem acceptable and permissible - i.e. using deceptive language and methods to appear as presentable as possible).
Such people (like Roslyn Ross) absolutely DISGUST me beyond belief. She disparages so many cultures in her attempts to defend the West - Indian culture, African cultures, and more.
And notice how she NEVER explicitly focuses on the U.S. Empire and their DIRECT involvement in the Genocide of the Palestinians (since 1948). She will always tru to put ALL the blame on Jews and Israel instead of expanding the scope of guilty parties and focusing on the West (which created this mess and dystopian situation to begin with).
Also, I rarely find her mentioning CAPITALISM (and everything that it entails - like imperialism, all forms of colonialism, etc.) as an extremely prominent factor in the behavior of Western nations in the destruction of 'not only the Palestinian people', but also large parts of the Global South.
[PS: If she sees this comment, she will try to employ her usual trick of 'take one statement I have made and make a credible case that it amounts to a hatred of Judaism and Jews or other cultures' to deflect from any honest criticism of her views/opinions. And when people produce copies amounts of evidence as to her culpability in all this, she simply ignores facts and logic as if they don't apply to 'any of her criticisms' - like she is 'above and beyond' being held accountable by logic.]
What is sad/horrible is that such kinds of 'White Supremacists' and racists (like Roslyn Ross) are all to common - one simply has to look at the MAGA cult (in the U.S.) and similar far-right groups in other Western nations - to see how they prey on the weak minded using manufactured moral panics of 'white replacement theory' and 'anti-immigration' narratives.
I have said what I needed to say to you (and what people need to know about you and your behavior). EVERYONE here (and elsewhere) observes your words and behavior. Some are deceived by your methods. Others are smarter to pick up on your strategies and lack of logic and strawman arguments and deflections and introduction of extraneous information and tangents and distractions and fallacious comparisons and more.
I will go back to being depressed and angry about the plight of the Palestinians and the world - but you do YOU - whatever rocks your boat - whatever helps you create 'more hate' in the world - whatever helps you 'divide people' further.
Odd is it not that you are the only one saying it and people are not lining up behind you validating your insults and abuse. You might want to ponder that.
I shall ignore your silly insult posts in future. Happy to discuss like adults any reasonable points you make, should they appear.
You might want to ponder why you are more transparent than you think in your motives. Why would I care about who lines up behind me? I'm a non-conformist thinker. I do my own thinking. I will let others do their own thinking.
I will continue to point out your strategies of hate and dividing people and deceiving people and making people aware of people like you just as I would do the same in the case of making people aware of Zionism and their narratives and propaganda and strategies - you are free to ignore me or do whatever you want.
I told you that this would ALWAYS be my response to you ->
"FUCK OFF - and KEEP FUCKING OFF Jenny Shit-For-Brains Stokes! This will be my standard reply to you (for all the abusive brain-farts that you leave on my comments)."
Why? You have abused be verbally too many times for no reason (even though I have been on your side (though you often don't seem to comprehend my comments and don't realise it). Since you've told me to FUCK OFF even when I said that I liked you and you had a good heart", this is the response you will receive from me.
Do you think people are like Dogs that you can simply verbally abuse (for no good reason) and they will come back for more? (since you do this often with me). Do you think you can willy-nilly throw your emotional temper tantrums on people as if they are your immediate family that might not have a choice in taking your shit? Do you think you are special because you think you are the only one that has problems? I have news for you - there are many others with problems worse than yours.
Again, the above will be my response to you - as you've abused be verbally once too often - and then you demand special pleading and attention because you think you have the greatest problems on the planet that you keep talking about on Caitlin's substack, while there are others too with more serious problems than yours that are private people that do not wish to discuss it with others.
So if you can verbally abuse a person (for no good reason other than not comprehending their comments), that has been on your side in the past, then what kind of a person does that make you? Do you want PROOF of our exchanges where that has happened? (I have the emails of our substack conversations). And then you run away like a coward when that person responds to you without giving them the respect of a response for falsely accusing them of something they never said. That is called HIT-and-RUN - and you do that all to often with me AND others in this Substack and others.
Yes, she brings her opinions up a lot and it never shows much logic. It's my opinion that ignoring her is best or a whole day could be wasted on the back and forth.
As I have said to CC, please take one statement I have made and prove it to be illogical and lacking in a factual base, therefore only opinion. One will do. Chang has not been able to do it but perhaps you can. I have no problem when people can make a case to prove me wrong. Over to you.
If you could find some self discipline and stop resorting to peronal insults and abuse it would waste less time for everyone.
Do not be ridiculous. There is no way one individual can ask a question of world Jewry or get an answer.
Jews have to do this for themselves. They need to come together and ask the question, which, by the way some Jews are already asking.
Zionism, Judaism and Jews are conflated and it has nothing to do with my approach.
Zionist Israel claims to represent all Jews as the Jewish State. MOST JEWS NOT ONLY ACCEPT THAT THEY PROMOTE IT. Ergo, Zionism and Jews are conflated.
Many followers of Judaism have always and continue to support, promote, fund, enable Zionist Israel and do NOT challenge its claims to represent Jews, followers of the religion of Judaism. Ergo, Judaism and Zionism are conflated.
AND FFS YOU SHOULD STOP DICTATING TO OTHERS WHAT TO SAY AND HOW TO SAY IT. None of your bloody business. Read or don't read is the only decision you have to make.
The focus on Palestine and on bringing people together and to have compassion for all REQUIRES PUTTING THE FOCUS ON ZIONISM, JUDAISM AND JEWS AND THE PART THEY PLAY IN CREATING THE EVIL THAT IS ISRAEL AND ITS GENOCIDAL POLICIES. Logic.
It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal. It is however possible and sensible to feel love and compassion for all humans regardless of their culture.
"It is ridiculous to love all cultures because all cultures are not equal". Your sweeping statement Roslyn Ross, is very pompous and patronising. I don't think "other cultures" need your love or compassion.
The anthropological term " Cultural relativism" recognises the diversity of human cultures and the equal validity of each.
But the way the western culture has embraced genocide you wouldn't say that it is equal or valid, would you ?
If you think highly patriarchal and misogynistic cultures are the equal of those which allow freedom and independence for people and particularly for women then you are not thinking clearly. Of course all cultures are not equal.
In Malawi witchcraft is still powerful and Albinos are killed for their body parts to be used in spells and old women are still murdered as witches. So, no, all cultures are not equal.
AND SORRY MATE BUT MISOGYNY, INFANTICIDE, WITCHCRAFT DO NOT HAVE EQUAL VALIDITY. What a ridiculous position.
It is wrong to say Western culture has embraced genocide given how many people in Western cultures are protesting against it.
What you need to remember is that the average person does not care much about what goes on beyond their world and life and they rely on mainstream media for their information. That is changing, particularly with younger generations accessing alternative information sites.
What you can say is that domination of the US and its obsession with Israel, has allowed genocide to happen, indeed, armed it to happen, and too many gutless allies have gone along with it. That is however beginning to change. None of that represents Western culture.
The domination of the world by one State, the US, does not represent Western culture or its values. Neither does genocide, occupation, colonisation, ethnic cleansing. The fact these things exist is not because of Western culture but because of flaws and failings in human nature.
And let us not be total hypocrites. Genocide and ethnic cleansing go on in some places all the time, particularly Africa and India and they are not Western cultures.
If Western culture has embraced genocide then can you please demonstrate how India and China, both non-Western cultures, have acted to condemn and prevent genocide? Many thanks.
You make the mistake of thinking the US represents Western culture, or whatever people believe Western culture might be. It does not.
Western culture is essentially the modern world and it likes to think it is the democratic world but that is no more than variations on the theme of democracy. The US is not a democracy but a Constitutional Republic and its system of the Electoral College. There are democratic aspects to the US but it is hardly representative of the Western democratic world.
https://factmyth.com/factoids/the-united-states-of-america-is-a-democracy/
Indu, Roslyn Ross has already made excuses and tried to deny the Genocide of ethnic/native Australians (in one of her other posts/comments). She is a certified Pro-Colonialist (and hence will try and defend Genocides by the West in ways that seem acceptable and permissible - i.e. using deceptive language and methods to appear as presentable as possible).
Such people (like Roslyn Ross) absolutely DISGUST me beyond belief. She disparages so many cultures in her attempts to defend the West - Indian culture, African cultures, and more.
And notice how she NEVER explicitly focuses on the U.S. Empire and their DIRECT involvement in the Genocide of the Palestinians (since 1948). She will always tru to put ALL the blame on Jews and Israel instead of expanding the scope of guilty parties and focusing on the West (which created this mess and dystopian situation to begin with).
Also, I rarely find her mentioning CAPITALISM (and everything that it entails - like imperialism, all forms of colonialism, etc.) as an extremely prominent factor in the behavior of Western nations in the destruction of 'not only the Palestinian people', but also large parts of the Global South.
[PS: If she sees this comment, she will try to employ her usual trick of 'take one statement I have made and make a credible case that it amounts to a hatred of Judaism and Jews or other cultures' to deflect from any honest criticism of her views/opinions. And when people produce copies amounts of evidence as to her culpability in all this, she simply ignores facts and logic as if they don't apply to 'any of her criticisms' - like she is 'above and beyond' being held accountable by logic.]
What is sad/horrible is that such kinds of 'White Supremacists' and racists (like Roslyn Ross) are all to common - one simply has to look at the MAGA cult (in the U.S.) and similar far-right groups in other Western nations - to see how they prey on the weak minded using manufactured moral panics of 'white replacement theory' and 'anti-immigration' narratives.
I have said what I needed to say to you (and what people need to know about you and your behavior). EVERYONE here (and elsewhere) observes your words and behavior. Some are deceived by your methods. Others are smarter to pick up on your strategies and lack of logic and strawman arguments and deflections and introduction of extraneous information and tangents and distractions and fallacious comparisons and more.
I will go back to being depressed and angry about the plight of the Palestinians and the world - but you do YOU - whatever rocks your boat - whatever helps you create 'more hate' in the world - whatever helps you 'divide people' further.
Odd is it not that you are the only one saying it and people are not lining up behind you validating your insults and abuse. You might want to ponder that.
I shall ignore your silly insult posts in future. Happy to discuss like adults any reasonable points you make, should they appear.
>>"You might want to ponder that."
You might want to ponder why you are more transparent than you think in your motives. Why would I care about who lines up behind me? I'm a non-conformist thinker. I do my own thinking. I will let others do their own thinking.
I will continue to point out your strategies of hate and dividing people and deceiving people and making people aware of people like you just as I would do the same in the case of making people aware of Zionism and their narratives and propaganda and strategies - you are free to ignore me or do whatever you want.
You do NOT allow others to do their own thinking.
I told you that this would ALWAYS be my response to you ->
"FUCK OFF - and KEEP FUCKING OFF Jenny Shit-For-Brains Stokes! This will be my standard reply to you (for all the abusive brain-farts that you leave on my comments)."
Why? You have abused be verbally too many times for no reason (even though I have been on your side (though you often don't seem to comprehend my comments and don't realise it). Since you've told me to FUCK OFF even when I said that I liked you and you had a good heart", this is the response you will receive from me.
Do you think people are like Dogs that you can simply verbally abuse (for no good reason) and they will come back for more? (since you do this often with me). Do you think you can willy-nilly throw your emotional temper tantrums on people as if they are your immediate family that might not have a choice in taking your shit? Do you think you are special because you think you are the only one that has problems? I have news for you - there are many others with problems worse than yours.
Again, the above will be my response to you - as you've abused be verbally once too often - and then you demand special pleading and attention because you think you have the greatest problems on the planet that you keep talking about on Caitlin's substack, while there are others too with more serious problems than yours that are private people that do not wish to discuss it with others.
So if you can verbally abuse a person (for no good reason other than not comprehending their comments), that has been on your side in the past, then what kind of a person does that make you? Do you want PROOF of our exchanges where that has happened? (I have the emails of our substack conversations). And then you run away like a coward when that person responds to you without giving them the respect of a response for falsely accusing them of something they never said. That is called HIT-and-RUN - and you do that all to often with me AND others in this Substack and others.
So yeah, may you reap what you sow.
Just STFU Chang.
And to think, I USED to respect your opinions.
You take on mah Sistah Jenny, you’re takin’ on me too.
Yes, she brings her opinions up a lot and it never shows much logic. It's my opinion that ignoring her is best or a whole day could be wasted on the back and forth.
As I have said to CC, please take one statement I have made and prove it to be illogical and lacking in a factual base, therefore only opinion. One will do. Chang has not been able to do it but perhaps you can. I have no problem when people can make a case to prove me wrong. Over to you.
Thanks Davina. Very kind of you.