"So this is definitely a symptom of something profoundly ugly lurking in the underbelly of our society that’s worth drawing some attention to."
This psychosis is not just lurking in the underbelly of Israeli society. It is proudly parading as part of the mainstream. Israel as a country is doomed, not by the hostility of its Arab neighbors, but by the depravity of its society.
Lest anyone level the ridiculous charge of anti-semitism in response, know that there are Jews around the world who understand this perfectly and are as appalled as any decent human must inevitably be.
Thousands of Jewish-led protesters descended on the New York offices of the American Israel Public Affairs Council on Thursday, taking aim at both AIPAC and Democratic lawmakers who take millions of combined dollars from the lobby group while opposing a Gaza cease-fire.
Led by Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), the demonstrators marched from Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza outside the United Nations—where earlier this week the U.S. for the third time vetoed a Security Council cease-fire resolution—to AIPAC's nearby New York headquarters on Third Street.
During the march, protesters carried large letters spelling "DUMP AIPAC" and a banner reading "AIPAC Funds Genocide," as well as signs listing the names of New York Democrats who take campaign cash from the group while opposing a Gaza cease-fire. Members of Congress named and shamed at the rally include House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries ($829,835 in lifetime AIPAC contributions), Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand ($348,818), and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer ($101,570).
I wish these protests were given prominent coverage. There are powerful voices in the Jewish community who have said from the beginning—Not in My Name.
It’s really shocking to see the lack of coverage of these protests. Thousands of people are marching globally, facing police who are sending them to the hospital - but you wouldn’t know this if you read any mainstream news reporting. Reuters might write it up - but none of the networks choose to broadcast it. This week, this happened near my home: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/police-beatings-pro-palestinian-schoolchildren-spark-outrage-italy-2024-02-23/
Seven women are on record stating Joe Biden inappropriately fondled them. I often brought this up along with mentioning "Tara Reade" during the #MeToo feeding frenzy at the time. Always got *crickets*.
Yep. When Tara made her accusation against Biden the me too movement died. The believe all women became believe some women and it’s okay to say horrible things about some women. The hypocrisy was so huge that even the shitlibs should have seen it.
The hypocrisy invalidated the entire movement, since the real motive was not really about women - but about destroying your political opponents or anyone else who got in your way.
ps: Not saying some good didn't come out of it - some pretty heinous men did end up where they belonged. But the good that came out of it was for the wrong reasons and arbitrarily applied.
Right. Like a monstrous, hideous infant. King Baby has no impulse control or ability to “behave” himself. He’s permanently stuck in the oral stage…er, um, maybe the anal stage is more appropriate at this phase of his life.
AIPAC is both party’s not so secret, dirty secret. Democrats and Repukes both feed at that trough; although I suspect the Dems of taking more. AIPAC money and the checkbooks of wealthy Jewish campaign donors, are what keep this country locked in an embrace with Israel.
"During his 36 years in the Senate, Biden was the chamber's biggest recipient in history of donations from pro-Israeli groups, taking in $4.2 million, according to the Open Secrets database."
Mintpress" Alan McDode (?) wrote about this last month. He showed who were the ones who got the most money from AIPAC. Sorry I didn’t save the link and sorry if I got his last name wrong.
You might also find Mark Hertsgaard’s “On Bended Knee,” to be informative. It was written even longer ago than Mershimer’s book, and helps show this is embedded, and has been, deeply in our so-called free press.
I've been wondering about a couple of things. Maybe AIPAC should be compelled to register as a foreign agent, given that it is dedicated to furthering the foreign state of Israel?
And whether this blind support, given in the form of unconditional aid, to Isreal, might not just contravene the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. I found this commentary, "Virtually all jurists agree that it would violate the Establishment Clause for the government to compel attendance or financial support of a religious institution as such..." Couldn't the current situation be construed as compelling financial support of a religious institution (Israel)? I think we need more novel approaches to this issue.
Seems like someone has to try and get this enforced. Who might that be? Can someone sue them? IDK. Same with getting 18 U.S. Code § 1091 enforced. I think a Writ of Mandamus could be applied for, but who can do that? I am not in the US. Are there people, or organizations there who could take this on? Just asking, and hope others will think about and ask these, and other questions, leading to actions on multiple fronts.
Was just thinking about same…Human Rights Watch and other respected orgs should sue…though doesn’t it speak VOLUMES that the American Medical Assn will not even call for the protection of health care workers, much less call for a ceasefire. It’s all unconscionable…but suing appears the only path. We won’t get Rs and Ds to reject all that money, those bloodthirsty selfish shitheads.
In 2018, The Washington Post ran an article titled “The dark roots of AIPAC, ‘America’s Pro-Israel Lobby’". The article was subtitled: "The group was formed to spin positive PR after Israeli atrocities”. Written by Professor Doug Rossinow, it focused on the formation of AIPAC (America Israel Political Action Committee), originally called AZPAC (America Zionist Political Action Committee). The article focuses on the Israeli massacre of Palestinians in the village of Qibya in 1953:
“In the fall of 1953, Eisenhower briefly suspended the delivery of U.S. aid to Israel after it violated the terms of a U.N.-brokered armistice agreement with Syria by venturing into a demilitarized zone to try to divert the waters of the Jordan River…. But on Oct. 15, 1953, all hell broke loose. News spread that a special Israeli army unit had struck into the Jordanian-occupied West Bank and committed a massacre in the Palestinian village of Qibya, killing more than 60 civilians indiscriminately in retaliation for the murder of a Jewish woman and her two children in Israel on the night of Oct. 12....The strike reflected Israeli policy. Ever since the end of the 1948 war, Palestinians had frequently crossed the so-called “Green Line” into Israel. Most had been driven or had fled from their homes in what was now Israel and simply wished to return. But some committed violence against Israelis. Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion had fixed on a policy of reprisals — military assaults, intentionally disproportionate, on local Arab populations — as a response to any such attacks. After the Oct. 12 killings, Ben-Gurion and top colleagues chose nearby Qibya to suffer retribution.”
AZPAC (later AIPAC) was formed to deal with the American public outrage after the Qibya massacre.
As Ecclesiastes tells us, there is nothing new under the sun.
Imagine WaPo running this article today. Imagine Biden suspending military aid to Israel.
thanks Jack for posting info on that article and the quote which I just now got to read online WP archive!! cannot imagine that rag publishing such today...nor NYT or TIME...but giving new life to that article i've reposted it on social media thanks to you! cheers
Thank you for sharing that. I'd missed that one. Jewish Voice for Peace is perhaps the most visible reason that Zionism is a completely different thing from either Judaism or Jews.
When you believe that God gave you someone else's land then you are thinking like a priest. Nietzsche says "The worst haters in the world have always been priests." This is exactly what that means.
The worst haters in the world have always been priests? I think that's a highly prejudicial statement on your part. True the church was much more prejudicial in the past, with a sense of their own superiority but that is certainly not true today. You are talking about the Jewish people who felt God gave them the land of Palestine, not priests.
If the OT is supposed to be taken at face value, back in the Bronze Age the “Israelites” the “chosen people” stumbled upon the “promised land” after wandering around (and around, and around) in the desert (the Sinai?) for 40 years - 40 years? - before they came to the “promised land”. The land promised to them by their god. One catch: they had to slaughter and/or enslave every group of people living there in order to possess it. Some god. And this is their bullshit title to the land.
It’s as arrogant, fanciful and horrific a claim as that of the United States with all of its “pious pilgrims”, “Westward ho”, “Remember the Alamo” and “manifest destiny” crap. No wonder the Christo-fascists in the U.S.,support Israel. Same bogus god; same smash and grab history, full of bloodshed, rapine and slaughter. It’s enough to make you sick.
interesting side 'fact'...that 2 Archaeologist who had spent the better part of their professional lives SEARCHING for ANY traces of the 'chosen' who lived in the desert/Sinai for 40 years...and despite decades of searching they found NOT AN IOTA of artifact that demonstrated that perhaps a million people lived there EVER. In their book published in early 2000s they published their findings in a fascinating book called "The Bible Unearthed" by Silberman and Finkelstein /paperback...and really OPENED my eyes long before I read Pappe or Schlaim or Norm Finkelstein..
Here’s an even more interesting fact: there’s not one contemporary reference to the Jews ever being enslaved by the Egyptians. Not one scribe anywhere took down one syllable of hieroglyphics about a huge, enslaved population of “Israelites”.
Egypt being the biggest show in town and the most advanced civilization in the area the Jews undoubtedly came into contact with it and sought to trade there, but the whole story of them being enslaved by the Egyptians for generations sounds like bullshit to me.
And their god. The one god, the only god, the god before all other gods? Most likely that was a takeaway from Akhenaten and his elevation of the solar disc as the only true god.
This vagabond group of desert dwelling nomads took the story of the flood from the Mesopotamians, and their one (angry, vengeful, jealous, racist) God from the Egyptians. Their creation myths and everything else they plagiarized from more advanced societies they came in contact with.
Hebrew is just Aramaic for Semitic, meaning a family of languages and people distantly related by a common ancestry. Aramaic-speaking herders frequently raided the settled lands from Gaza up through Syria and then down to the Persian Gulf through Iraq during the Bronze Age.
The ancient Israelites were very likely those same people who settled in some small cities they had conquered, much like the Vandals settled in Carthage millennia later.
My point is the Vandals came from at least as far as Poland, and the Israelites' ancestors probably wandered around in an area far vaster than just the Sinai in the decades before they found cities too weak to resist them.
Exactly. What's worse is the Zionists come right out and say that the descendants of all those people, who may or may not have believed the propaganda of the time in the first place, are now hypocrites if we do not support Israel's right to displace another people NOW.
It's infuriating bullshit. It makes me want to go to a synagogue and thunder at them like one of their prophets.
Yes, but I'm talking about earlier than that. The Promised Land! Who wrote all that OT stuff activating a Long Game leading to the [Self-] Promised Land??
Anti-Semitism is indeed a patently ridiculous allegation levelled at those who criticise the actions of the blood-thirsty invading Zionist entity that is brutally occupying Palestine since Palestinians themselves are undeniably Semitic since 'Semitic' refers to people who speak Semitic languages especially such as Hebrew or Arabic.
The Semitic language family consists of dozens of distinct languages and modern day dialects, but the major Semitic languages are *Arabic*, Amharic (spoken in Ethiopia), Tigrinya (spoken in Ethiopia and Eritrea), Hebrew, Tigre (spoken in Sudan), Aramaic (spoken in Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Iraq and Iran) and Maltese.
Anti-Semitism?! Anti-Language??!! Maybe there's something in what Shulamit Aloni, former israeli cabinet member & winner of the 2000 israel Prize said, "'Anti-Semitic?' It's a trick. We always use it", to stifle legitimate criticism of israel.
When some folk, consciously or unconsciously, deploy the anti-Semitic trick on me I respond by way of reference to Semitic languages & ask for clarification that if what I am talking about is anti-Jew or not, and if it is seen as such then say so and show evidence. That usually ends any attack.
It's going to take a lot more than protest in the traditional sense. People have to stop paying taxes and stop doing any type of commerce with anyone even remotely affiliated with israhell. I'm incredibly tired as I write this so I apologize if it's not worded well.
If you listened to this tape it makes clear at this point the civil uprisings, or to-do's have no baring on the any concern on what the government is doing to the people of Palestine, or Palestinians. At this point they don't give a shit!
I just can't prevent my surge of disgust and rising bile at reading, seeing and hearing such expression. Its unfathomable to me that anyone, let alone anyone that subscribes to some kind of divine justice, can conduct themselves in such ways. But then, even as a child, when reading some of those Old Testament massacres and genocides, I was appalled and asked my Sunday School teachers how they could even teach such awfulness. I was told that God worked in mysterious ways. "Psychopathic ways" I later came to see. In this, Israelis are behaving now as they always have - in service to their own specialness, to their own superior status in the eyes of their god. Except now they can do it with US supplied weaponry and international impunity.
I can't do anything about it myself, except to rail on my now largely banned social media accounts. But what I can do and always will do is to forever refuse to buy anything Israeli, as much as I am able to have nothing to do with their brands, their companies or any of their people. Not a dollar for them or from them, nor a minute of my time nor a kind thought towards them. They have forever abrogated their rights to basic human compassion or consideration.
I’ve always found it to be ironic (in a horrible way) that Nazis believed that there was such a thing as an Aryan race and it was superior to all others and Zionists believe they’re God’s Chosen People and superior to all others. Both are false and based in arrogance, conceit, entitlement and an excuse to annihilate anyone who isn’t in their club. “Fuck around and find out” is a knife that cuts both ways. Their only friend is America and we’re not doing so great with 34$ trillion on Visa, millions of new, hungry arrivals and no sane leadership. How this will stop, I don’t know.
The writing is on the wall for Israel. It’s only reason for existence is extortion of the US taxpayers. The ceiling is about to collapse on the US economy and its corrupted politicians will be shown the door. Israel will be alone. They’ve lied and cheated and bribed and blackmailed for over a hundred years to get and keep Israel going. The old adage be careful how you treat those on the way up, you’ll have to deal with them on the way down will be applicable to their situation. If anyone thinks the current untenable situation is going to last forever they know very little. A world war won’t consolidate their position either. It will spell the end of Israel and the US overnight. The only way out of this mess is massive reform and prosecutions in the courts.
Glad I could contribute to your sex fantasies, but what I really meant was we should all be patterning ourselves after these justice warriors who are effective not just whiny. Like for instance, where will everyone be when T-rump is elected and starts the “biggest deportation in history”? Will we be Houthi’s or will we still be here bloviating about how bad everybody else is.
Gypsy: Correction - Their 4th quarter GDP is down 20% from last year - which is very different from their economy being down 20% (I wish that were the case).
When all the math is done, real GDP loss = 5%
(BTW, on the positive side, GDP is an inaccurate measure of economic growth even though it is used widely. Also, economies have momentum - hence even though it is a 5% loss, the cumulative effects and trajectory point to WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT LOSSES FOR ISRAEL - Yay!!!)
Explanation (on the off-beat chance that you are interested) :) :-
(1) Let's say Israel GDP is $100 every quarter (4 months) in 2022
(2) Now, 20% down in 4th quarter of 2023 (compared to 4th quarter in 2022) = $80 (instead of $100). Hence, the true impact so far is a loss of $20 for the 4th quarter of 2023.
(3) So, assuming they had 0% GDP growth in 2023, Israel 2023 GDP is $380 (100 + 100 + 100 + 80)
(4) So, compared to 2022, GDP in 2023 = 95% of 2022 GDP. Hence GDP is down 5%
Thanks Chang. Economics are not my strong point, lol..I hate anything to do with mathematics and numbers! When I was a sign painter, I even disliked painting them!
No worries - the MSM loves to fool people by lying using statistics (regardless of what topic the MSM is discussing). One of the things that independent media does is to examine all the "bullshit statistics" that MSM uses and expose them.
Here are some awesome books on the subject (they are all non-technical books):
Agreed. Boycotting them is a good start. But what does Israel actually produce besides racism, hatred and weapons? Aside from Calvin Klein underwear I am not aware of seeing the “ made in Israel” label on anything.
"What I’m saying here will be spun as antisemitic by Israel supporters no matter how I put it because Israel supporters are manipulative liars, but to be clear this is not about Jews at all."
It's not, as in one ongoing case it matches entirely what's been going on in Ukraine since 2014 when they started bombing Donbass. Dehumanization of all kinds, from statements by Poroshenko - the then president - "our children will go to school and theirs will be cowering in bomb shelters" to menus in restaurants with atrocious names of body parts of Donbass people, and everything in between.
It must be said, though, that Ukraine was being coached and groomed by Israel along with the US. So there's that link again. Like father, like son.
I had thought that although there was little public awareness or accurate media coverage, that there was a factual consensus that after the 2014 coup, the Ukrainian government and "right wing" (Nazi) militia's began a military assault on the eastern Russian oriented people's. This escalated into a civil war against "separatists".
But I just heard a think tanker on BBC present what I thought was this consensus history exactly backwards: that following a democratic election in 2014, Russia "stole" Crimea and had armed "separatists" and stoked attacks on the Ukrainian people and government. Now, Putin was expanding the war he began in 2014!
Brits do what they do best - lie big. Zionists learned all their methods while taking over Palestine.
Goebbels was impressed: "The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."
Unfortunately, your point is obscured by reading the Goebbels piece: “The wheel of history can not be held back, not even by Mr. Churchill. In his more rational moments, he probably realizes that he is fighting for a lost cause, that his time is past, that he has no hope of catching up.” Propaganda doesn’t require facts, just assertions for a gullible population.
Goebbels was a quick learner, a fan of Bernays' and no doubt Churchill's et al as far as techniques went. Hope you didn't take my quoting as a defense of him.
Exactly. British elites realised how inbred and stupid they were becoming about 150 years ago and opened the doors to their society to more cunning and venal elements of the non aristocratic classes to create a kind of new moneyed hybrid elite which included American industrialists and of course eager Zionists. The average brit upper class twit is a well remunerated front for a ruthless transatlantic elite
It’s absolutely reprehensible! I wonder if the writers of any of those deplorable comments have children themselves. Actually, hold on … they don’t view Palestinians as humans so nah … it won’t matter.
Oh yes they do, and they’re raising them with the same disease…instilling hatred from birth. That is the saddest aspect of Zionism - the corruption of innocent souls.
Sorry C.C. It means Greenie on the outside and Marxist on the inside. - green on the outside, red on the inside. The people who use that term probably wouldn't know a Marxist from any sort of melon.
Reminds me of the Hitlerists' term "beefsteak Nazis" for SA leader Röhm's socialist faction that Hitler had purged in the Night of the Long Knives, meaning "brown on the outside, red on the inside", since it was where many former members of the Communist Party and other members of the working class had gone, and of course they were the Brownshirts.
Röhm himself wanted to overthrow Hitler, believing Hitler to have failed to fulfill the socialist part of the revolution, and supposedly had plans for wealth redistribution of the richest Germans and nobility. Röhm was well-known at the time to be the only member of Hitler's inner circle to have never fallen for his spell and to have always seen right through him.
Of course, Hitler ultimately had him killed and slaughtered his entire faction, replacing the SA with the SS, and denouncing his former friend as being a "depraved" homosexual—Röhm was publicly, openly homosexual and the SA was known for its gay underground—something he and others had not ever previously cared about, and as a Marxist, etc.
Just how many food metaphors are there to describe people's politics? I would not be surprised if the Australian usage of "watermelon" is derived from Nazi "beefsteaks", considering how much Nazi language has entered common vernacular and continues to poison us today.
Thank you for mentioning ZoI as I just watched trailer and brief discussion and though the references are painful to watch it is particularly important to understand how we are 'living' in this nightmare without end...insight and discussion is essential...thank you again!
Maybe a bit off topic but yeah, just like the subject of climate change, they don't give a fuck about their own children or grandchildren. They are enjoying the fruits of the neo-liberal paradise.
Caitlin, this is indeed an ugly reality that I have come across myself. I come across these absolutely evil scum of humanity not only in the comments section of the saddest news from Gaza but also under the much needed fundraising campaigns. I just feel like throwing up when I see such heartless creatures. One of these comments that I kept seeing from a user named Scott Ross Sr. saying that it’s enjoyable to watch Gaza being turned into a parking lot. The sadder part is that Facebook doesn’t find such comments to be against community guidelines.
Says all you need to know about Facebook. I got out long ago. I saw the obvious censorship of plain decency in favor of psychobabble from Zionist Jews who own Facebook.
For what it is worth (not much, I know), Caitlin, I totally support your comments. The criticism that you receive from the Judeo-Nazi crowd and their various supporters is of course, thoroughly despicable. But ever since the Vietnam War days, I have come to accept that there is a subset of our species that are capable of such thoughts. They are the sort of 'humans' (and I use that term very advisedly), that make possible the rise of people like Hitler and Mussolini to power.
From my empirical observations, the three things that seem to most often motivate these individuals are either religion, nationalism or capitalism/greed; or perhaps some combination.
I'm only referencing America since I live hear and rarely do people talk about what is going on and no doubt if they are critical of Israel they'll be afraid of people thinking they are anti-Semitic, since we have lived with that forever, not to mention many do not know what is going on since the media does isn't informative in terms of the carnage Israel is implementing. In the US multiple wars in the Middle East, millions killed and displaced and very little said by the general public. Ugly I know.
These people are brought up with diabolical hatred pounded into them. It’s like Hebrew school is psychopath training. Can a normal brain be conditioned to psychopathy through early training? Apparently so.
Can a normal brain be conditioned to psychopathy through early training? Indeed it can Richard - Edward Bernays demonstrated that and made a tidy living doing so.
If you start with a barbaric tribal ritual male genital mutilation initiation event at 8 days old without any form of anaesthesia, you have thoroughly & identically brutalised babies. Follow that with incessant incantations that the wounded & brutalised young men are members of a very very special Chosen™ race/tribe that can do no wrong and voilà, the Cluster B personality disorders stemming from the agony deliberately inflicted at 8 days old easily morphs into out and out psychopathy or more accurately, sociopathy. Nature & nurture separates the two virtually identical pathologies of psychopathy and sociopathy.
My question is, "Why do we allow this barbarity when we have laws against child abuse?".
Building on your comment; after the genital mutilation comes the next 13 years of treating every male child as though he might be the messiah. The males grow up disdaining women and used to being treated like their extra special. This translates into the way they view the world and their place in it.
As to the genocide fans you get email from, my bet is that, to a person, he/she has never been in combat, never see other humans thrashing in death agony, and, likely, never even been in a fist fight. In contrast, it's a rare combat vet that's enthusiastic about war.
Well spoken. All these people, instead of playing these horrific war games like Call of Duty to numb down their moral senses, should just for a change play „This War of Mine“ to see the other side of the conflict, the civilian casualties, the trauma and horrors of war and then understand why being a pacifist is better than war mongering from their bedrooms.
And yet on their deathbed how they will all beg for forgiveness of all their sins! Its the exact same when someone goes on a killing spree and the runs from being captured! That's my all time favorite - killing someone in cold blood and then you run away!
Good one. One thing the Internet revels in is lack of moral maturity. That is, a conscience and sense of empathy that hasn't matured beyond that typical of 5th grade boys. So you can't tell if a mean-spirited email if from a 5th grade boy or an adult with the maturity of a 5th grader.
The majority of my family are Israel supporters and apologists. No amount of carnage can unseat “Gods chosen people”. The cherry on top is they’re all born-again, heaven bound and ….. pro-life.
I take it pro-abortionists in your family are all for Gazans. Do they know those are Muslim? That their birth rate is one of the major concerns for abortion/LGBTQwhatever happy Israel? That that is one of the major characteristics for which Israel counts as the only democracy in the Middle East?
Who cares? We’re not talking about reproductive rights; birthrates, LGBTQ whatever rights. You’re attempting to make political/social/ moral distinctions in the face of an ongoing genocide and a tragedy of unacceptable proportions.
Would I like life in the Gaza Strip among the Palestinians? Probably not. Do I agree with Islam? Most assuredly not. Do I lay awake at night worrying about whether Palestinian women have access to birth control? No. I don’t. I don’t care.
What I care about is that the Israelis are doing their best to completely wipe out and destroy an entire people; that they have been engaged in this crime against humanity for almost 5 months, but really ever since 1948. What I am concerned about is that a great many innocent people are being systematically murdered by a weaponized fascist state with the complicity of my government and other corrupt, evil governments and no one and nothing seems to be able to stop it.
Israel is not a democracy. It hasn’t been for a long time. It is a fascist state bent on the destruction and elimination of its neighbors, and there will never be peace in the Middle East until it is stopped. It is the aggressor, it is the criminal, and it is motivated by a toxic ideology that is the product of one man’s 19th Century fever dream. And where Zionism is lacking in race hatred, you can always refer to the Old Testament.
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The uncomfortable truth is its is all hidden behind being Jewish ...plenty of Jewish folks say not in my name but no matter how you jugle the numbers or do the math statistically speaking the tribe backs up the tribe and the Christian ziopaths back then up. The sickness is profound and the moral disconect to humanity is even more so.
Yet the majority of the self identified jewish population near blindly supports it. Or pretends to be blind..or simply choses the propaganda over truth demonstrating a lack of common ideas of integrity and or the intellectual courage to ever find any. Profits off the not seeing .. Not a good look over all for a people ...I like Gilad Atzmons take...The Wondering who? He I can respect .. But I have now taken to side eyeng Jewish people untill I get to know where they stand on the litmus test strip. ...Sadly ,,,They collectively did that to themselves.
Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate and Glenn Greenwald and Norman Finkelsteain. Granted it is apparently a pretty small minority, going by polls, but maybe the polls are gamed the way they try to game everything else.
I said this long ago that I felt the Israelis “kept” Palestinians for the sole purpose of NEEDING someone to torture. Like a psychopath keeps its prey alive till he/she expires. Zionists walking through Gaza shooting children in the head for sport proves my point. This is a tragically perverse society we’re seeing.
If you look at the history n America the founding fathers thought they would fill the land with Europeans that came from the North and West of Europe, well that didn't happen, since people from the south and east of Europe came as well. They were perceived to be grossly inferior, and treated as such. They were often referenced as animals. Some, Italians down south were even lynched, and so it goes. Read the book if you're interested, Working Your Way Toward Whiteness.
Some people refuse to see evil especially if it comes from them. It also is easier to deny the humanity of others than it is to see your own inhumanity, and by now so much evil has been committed by the IDF that to fact would be extraordinarily painful for a supporter.
People deny their own and others humanity when they split the world into pure good and evil when people are both in varying combinations.
The behaviour of many Israel supporters has also been remarkably self-indulgent. Most people who harbour the sick sentiments which you describe (and they shamelessly express) keep them to themselves.
Democrats and Republicans seem to favour Israel over the American taxpayer and citizen, and have done for decades.
Does it have anything to do with the following? Cause or effect or and effect?
Foreign Reserves by country - gold , cash and credit- seem to tell an Uber-sick and seamy story. Israel has more than 30x more foreign reserves per cap than the U.S., and they cadge aid from US taxpayers.
Israel foreign reserves per cap are greater than those of the US, France , Germany and China combined. See link. Seems like it can’t be true. What is going on? This looks like fraud and ?theft.
A search on Google shows Israel at about number 10 based on per capita, and # 24 in total reserves in 2016. I see Israel at #19 in another source for 2023, so on the rise.
Perhaps you could share your source for the higher rating, or explain what’s wrong with this one.
Joy let’s use your link. Israel has per cap reserves of $11,375. THIS IS GREATER THAN THE COMBINED TOTAL OF CHINA ($2244), GERMANY ($2132), FRANCE ($2146), UK ($1990), US ($366), AND CANADA ($2285).❗️
It’s also greater than “Croesus- rich” Norway.❗️
Your ranking ( a much less direct measure) has been finagled imo. I say that because Israel seems to be tenth but those ten slots include Macau and HK as separate countries, which they clearly are not, and Taiwan too. As well as San Marino.
The point is about aid and why and how Israel continues to get it, while the US leads the West in poverty and inequality, has Third World longevity, and pollutes twice as much as China per cap. And where did Israel get that staggering amount of money? Would you care to explain how and why the US with 1/30th the per cap foreign reserves of Israel is giving Israel aid? Is this corruption? Congress? House? Senate? And while you’re at it, perhaps you could explain how these gobsmacking data have escaped the attention of the MSM. And the American taxpayer?
I have no ability to explain it. My guess is that it includes, among other things, the billions of US transfers, both government, and personal that are tax deductible. but please give us your interpretation. I was just checking your unsourced figures.
If you haven't read "The Tower of Basel," by Adam Lebor, about the role of the B.I.S. and financial machinations during the period between the two world wars, and subsequent. I wouldn't be surprised to find this rarely discussed institution somewhere in the background.
"So this is definitely a symptom of something profoundly ugly lurking in the underbelly of our society that’s worth drawing some attention to."
This psychosis is not just lurking in the underbelly of Israeli society. It is proudly parading as part of the mainstream. Israel as a country is doomed, not by the hostility of its Arab neighbors, but by the depravity of its society.
Lest anyone level the ridiculous charge of anti-semitism in response, know that there are Jews around the world who understand this perfectly and are as appalled as any decent human must inevitably be.
Thousands of Jewish-led protesters descended on the New York offices of the American Israel Public Affairs Council on Thursday, taking aim at both AIPAC and Democratic lawmakers who take millions of combined dollars from the lobby group while opposing a Gaza cease-fire.
Led by Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), the demonstrators marched from Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza outside the United Nations—where earlier this week the U.S. for the third time vetoed a Security Council cease-fire resolution—to AIPAC's nearby New York headquarters on Third Street.
During the march, protesters carried large letters spelling "DUMP AIPAC" and a banner reading "AIPAC Funds Genocide," as well as signs listing the names of New York Democrats who take campaign cash from the group while opposing a Gaza cease-fire. Members of Congress named and shamed at the rally include House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries ($829,835 in lifetime AIPAC contributions), Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand ($348,818), and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer ($101,570).
https://www.commondreams.org/news/aipac-2667345553#:~:text=Thousands%20of%20Jewish%2Dled%20protesters,opposing%20a%20Gaza%20cease%2Dfire.
I wish these protests were given prominent coverage. There are powerful voices in the Jewish community who have said from the beginning—Not in My Name.
Even during America's Middle Eastern war craze, marches yes, but the coverage had a short life.
It’s really shocking to see the lack of coverage of these protests. Thousands of people are marching globally, facing police who are sending them to the hospital - but you wouldn’t know this if you read any mainstream news reporting. Reuters might write it up - but none of the networks choose to broadcast it. This week, this happened near my home: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/police-beatings-pro-palestinian-schoolchildren-spark-outrage-italy-2024-02-23/
Biden has taken over $4 million from AIPAC and he has gotten the most out of anyone else.
Shitlibs are still saying that republicans are on Putin’s payroll, but not once have I seen them call out Israel.
Seven women are on record stating Joe Biden inappropriately fondled them. I often brought this up along with mentioning "Tara Reade" during the #MeToo feeding frenzy at the time. Always got *crickets*.
Yep. When Tara made her accusation against Biden the me too movement died. The believe all women became believe some women and it’s okay to say horrible things about some women. The hypocrisy was so huge that even the shitlibs should have seen it.
The hypocrisy invalidated the entire movement, since the real motive was not really about women - but about destroying your political opponents or anyone else who got in your way.
ps: Not saying some good didn't come out of it - some pretty heinous men did end up where they belonged. But the good that came out of it was for the wrong reasons and arbitrarily applied.
Yeah, but Trump grabs pussies! He's a pussy grabber!
Did he take showers with Ivanka? No? That's right, because he's a pervert - he grabs pussies of strange women.
Trump was a frequent flyer on the Lolita Express. He's no champion of women. But the hypocrisy by the shitlibs was indeed sickening.
Was I defending Trump?
Right. Like a monstrous, hideous infant. King Baby has no impulse control or ability to “behave” himself. He’s permanently stuck in the oral stage…er, um, maybe the anal stage is more appropriate at this phase of his life.
I recall a Trump remark to the effect he thought Ivanka was hot and would fuck her if she wasn't his daughter.
You heard him say it? And what would be wrong with that as she wouldn't be his daughter?
AIPAC is both party’s not so secret, dirty secret. Democrats and Repukes both feed at that trough; although I suspect the Dems of taking more. AIPAC money and the checkbooks of wealthy Jewish campaign donors, are what keep this country locked in an embrace with Israel.
AIPAC is plenty dirty, but hardly a secret.
Because they can't prove Putin's while the AIPAC's is on full display. Such is shitlib condition.
Zzzzzzz
Do you have a source for that information? I'd like to spread it.
Link: Reuters -> 'I am a Zionist': How Joe Biden's lifelong bond with Israel shapes war policy" (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/)
"During his 36 years in the Senate, Biden was the chamber's biggest recipient in history of donations from pro-Israeli groups, taking in $4.2 million, according to the Open Secrets database."
Wow!
Mintpress" Alan McDode (?) wrote about this last month. He showed who were the ones who got the most money from AIPAC. Sorry I didn’t save the link and sorry if I got his last name wrong.
Here’s the website
http://mintpressnews.com/
A very good book on the lobby is written by John Mearshimer called the Israel Lobby, even though written in 2007. Good Read.
You might also find Mark Hertsgaard’s “On Bended Knee,” to be informative. It was written even longer ago than Mershimer’s book, and helps show this is embedded, and has been, deeply in our so-called free press.
Thanks, I'll into that.
Interesting, didn't know that about Reagan.
Thanks for the suggestion Joy. Seems like an interesting read.
yeah, Reagan got the velvet glove treatment.
Yes I saw
I've been wondering about a couple of things. Maybe AIPAC should be compelled to register as a foreign agent, given that it is dedicated to furthering the foreign state of Israel?
And whether this blind support, given in the form of unconditional aid, to Isreal, might not just contravene the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. I found this commentary, "Virtually all jurists agree that it would violate the Establishment Clause for the government to compel attendance or financial support of a religious institution as such..." Couldn't the current situation be construed as compelling financial support of a religious institution (Israel)? I think we need more novel approaches to this issue.
Exactly my thought earlier this week. Why doesn’t AIPAC have to register as a foreign agent? And why are their campaign contributions allowed??
Seems like someone has to try and get this enforced. Who might that be? Can someone sue them? IDK. Same with getting 18 U.S. Code § 1091 enforced. I think a Writ of Mandamus could be applied for, but who can do that? I am not in the US. Are there people, or organizations there who could take this on? Just asking, and hope others will think about and ask these, and other questions, leading to actions on multiple fronts.
Was just thinking about same…Human Rights Watch and other respected orgs should sue…though doesn’t it speak VOLUMES that the American Medical Assn will not even call for the protection of health care workers, much less call for a ceasefire. It’s all unconscionable…but suing appears the only path. We won’t get Rs and Ds to reject all that money, those bloodthirsty selfish shitheads.
Can you imagine how much shit would be hittin’ the fan if Russia or China were buying the US Congress?
As to the first question, corruption and bribery.
As to the second, also corruption and bribery.
Joy, Scott Ritter has been saying that on every video.
Great idea.
In 2018, The Washington Post ran an article titled “The dark roots of AIPAC, ‘America’s Pro-Israel Lobby’". The article was subtitled: "The group was formed to spin positive PR after Israeli atrocities”. Written by Professor Doug Rossinow, it focused on the formation of AIPAC (America Israel Political Action Committee), originally called AZPAC (America Zionist Political Action Committee). The article focuses on the Israeli massacre of Palestinians in the village of Qibya in 1953:
“In the fall of 1953, Eisenhower briefly suspended the delivery of U.S. aid to Israel after it violated the terms of a U.N.-brokered armistice agreement with Syria by venturing into a demilitarized zone to try to divert the waters of the Jordan River…. But on Oct. 15, 1953, all hell broke loose. News spread that a special Israeli army unit had struck into the Jordanian-occupied West Bank and committed a massacre in the Palestinian village of Qibya, killing more than 60 civilians indiscriminately in retaliation for the murder of a Jewish woman and her two children in Israel on the night of Oct. 12....The strike reflected Israeli policy. Ever since the end of the 1948 war, Palestinians had frequently crossed the so-called “Green Line” into Israel. Most had been driven or had fled from their homes in what was now Israel and simply wished to return. But some committed violence against Israelis. Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion had fixed on a policy of reprisals — military assaults, intentionally disproportionate, on local Arab populations — as a response to any such attacks. After the Oct. 12 killings, Ben-Gurion and top colleagues chose nearby Qibya to suffer retribution.”
AZPAC (later AIPAC) was formed to deal with the American public outrage after the Qibya massacre.
As Ecclesiastes tells us, there is nothing new under the sun.
Imagine WaPo running this article today. Imagine Biden suspending military aid to Israel.
(The full article is available at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/03/06/the-dark-roots-of-aipac-americas-pro-israel-lobby/. If not already a WaPo subscriber—who in their right mind is?—you will need to give them an email address, which is easy to spoof.)
thanks Jack for posting info on that article and the quote which I just now got to read online WP archive!! cannot imagine that rag publishing such today...nor NYT or TIME...but giving new life to that article i've reposted it on social media thanks to you! cheers
Imagine WaPo running this article today. Imagine Biden suspending military aid to Israel.
It's so funny you said that - the second I read In 2018 - - I thought to myself boy have times changed!
Thank you for sharing that. I'd missed that one. Jewish Voice for Peace is perhaps the most visible reason that Zionism is a completely different thing from either Judaism or Jews.
When you believe that God gave you someone else's land then you are thinking like a priest. Nietzsche says "The worst haters in the world have always been priests." This is exactly what that means.
The worst haters in the world have always been priests? I think that's a highly prejudicial statement on your part. True the church was much more prejudicial in the past, with a sense of their own superiority but that is certainly not true today. You are talking about the Jewish people who felt God gave them the land of Palestine, not priests.
If the OT is supposed to be taken at face value, back in the Bronze Age the “Israelites” the “chosen people” stumbled upon the “promised land” after wandering around (and around, and around) in the desert (the Sinai?) for 40 years - 40 years? - before they came to the “promised land”. The land promised to them by their god. One catch: they had to slaughter and/or enslave every group of people living there in order to possess it. Some god. And this is their bullshit title to the land.
It’s as arrogant, fanciful and horrific a claim as that of the United States with all of its “pious pilgrims”, “Westward ho”, “Remember the Alamo” and “manifest destiny” crap. No wonder the Christo-fascists in the U.S.,support Israel. Same bogus god; same smash and grab history, full of bloodshed, rapine and slaughter. It’s enough to make you sick.
interesting side 'fact'...that 2 Archaeologist who had spent the better part of their professional lives SEARCHING for ANY traces of the 'chosen' who lived in the desert/Sinai for 40 years...and despite decades of searching they found NOT AN IOTA of artifact that demonstrated that perhaps a million people lived there EVER. In their book published in early 2000s they published their findings in a fascinating book called "The Bible Unearthed" by Silberman and Finkelstein /paperback...and really OPENED my eyes long before I read Pappe or Schlaim or Norm Finkelstein..
Here’s an even more interesting fact: there’s not one contemporary reference to the Jews ever being enslaved by the Egyptians. Not one scribe anywhere took down one syllable of hieroglyphics about a huge, enslaved population of “Israelites”.
Egypt being the biggest show in town and the most advanced civilization in the area the Jews undoubtedly came into contact with it and sought to trade there, but the whole story of them being enslaved by the Egyptians for generations sounds like bullshit to me.
And their god. The one god, the only god, the god before all other gods? Most likely that was a takeaway from Akhenaten and his elevation of the solar disc as the only true god.
This vagabond group of desert dwelling nomads took the story of the flood from the Mesopotamians, and their one (angry, vengeful, jealous, racist) God from the Egyptians. Their creation myths and everything else they plagiarized from more advanced societies they came in contact with.
Hebrew is just Aramaic for Semitic, meaning a family of languages and people distantly related by a common ancestry. Aramaic-speaking herders frequently raided the settled lands from Gaza up through Syria and then down to the Persian Gulf through Iraq during the Bronze Age.
The ancient Israelites were very likely those same people who settled in some small cities they had conquered, much like the Vandals settled in Carthage millennia later.
My point is the Vandals came from at least as far as Poland, and the Israelites' ancestors probably wandered around in an area far vaster than just the Sinai in the decades before they found cities too weak to resist them.
Exactly. What's worse is the Zionists come right out and say that the descendants of all those people, who may or may not have believed the propaganda of the time in the first place, are now hypocrites if we do not support Israel's right to displace another people NOW.
It's infuriating bullshit. It makes me want to go to a synagogue and thunder at them like one of their prophets.
Oh, I remember that story now, and I totally forgot it. Thanks for the memories.
Back in Bronze Age times, who held the pen when it wrote that G-d said Palestine belonged to Jews?
Palestine was a part of the Ottoman Empire and once it fell during WWI the Zionist and Bafour said it belonged to the Jewish people. very bad mistake.
Yes, but I'm talking about earlier than that. The Promised Land! Who wrote all that OT stuff activating a Long Game leading to the [Self-] Promised Land??
Rabbis.
'Mankind will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest'
Or like a crazy person which is probably closer although perhaps still like a priest.
The article is referencing prejudicial positions and you and Yo mismo make very prejudicial and ugly statements of your own.
Anti-Semitism is indeed a patently ridiculous allegation levelled at those who criticise the actions of the blood-thirsty invading Zionist entity that is brutally occupying Palestine since Palestinians themselves are undeniably Semitic since 'Semitic' refers to people who speak Semitic languages especially such as Hebrew or Arabic.
The Semitic language family consists of dozens of distinct languages and modern day dialects, but the major Semitic languages are *Arabic*, Amharic (spoken in Ethiopia), Tigrinya (spoken in Ethiopia and Eritrea), Hebrew, Tigre (spoken in Sudan), Aramaic (spoken in Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Iraq and Iran) and Maltese.
Anti-Semitism?! Anti-Language??!! Maybe there's something in what Shulamit Aloni, former israeli cabinet member & winner of the 2000 israel Prize said, "'Anti-Semitic?' It's a trick. We always use it", to stifle legitimate criticism of israel.
Thank you DL...been attempting to point this out to people for decades now.
Shine the light for all to see, AJ.
When some folk, consciously or unconsciously, deploy the anti-Semitic trick on me I respond by way of reference to Semitic languages & ask for clarification that if what I am talking about is anti-Jew or not, and if it is seen as such then say so and show evidence. That usually ends any attack.
They don't like it when you stand up to them. Power to your elbow, mate!
Masks are off. Nothing new here, only now it's out in the open.
It's going to take a lot more than protest in the traditional sense. People have to stop paying taxes and stop doing any type of commerce with anyone even remotely affiliated with israhell. I'm incredibly tired as I write this so I apologize if it's not worded well.
Can Benjamin Netanyahu resist the revolt against his leadership?
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2024/2/18/can-benjamin-netanyahu-resist-the-revolt-against-his-leadership
If you listened to this tape it makes clear at this point the civil uprisings, or to-do's have no baring on the any concern on what the government is doing to the people of Palestine, or Palestinians. At this point they don't give a shit!
Stay strong Caitlin and remember that you have a lot of friends and supporters out here.
I just can't prevent my surge of disgust and rising bile at reading, seeing and hearing such expression. Its unfathomable to me that anyone, let alone anyone that subscribes to some kind of divine justice, can conduct themselves in such ways. But then, even as a child, when reading some of those Old Testament massacres and genocides, I was appalled and asked my Sunday School teachers how they could even teach such awfulness. I was told that God worked in mysterious ways. "Psychopathic ways" I later came to see. In this, Israelis are behaving now as they always have - in service to their own specialness, to their own superior status in the eyes of their god. Except now they can do it with US supplied weaponry and international impunity.
I can't do anything about it myself, except to rail on my now largely banned social media accounts. But what I can do and always will do is to forever refuse to buy anything Israeli, as much as I am able to have nothing to do with their brands, their companies or any of their people. Not a dollar for them or from them, nor a minute of my time nor a kind thought towards them. They have forever abrogated their rights to basic human compassion or consideration.
I’ve always found it to be ironic (in a horrible way) that Nazis believed that there was such a thing as an Aryan race and it was superior to all others and Zionists believe they’re God’s Chosen People and superior to all others. Both are false and based in arrogance, conceit, entitlement and an excuse to annihilate anyone who isn’t in their club. “Fuck around and find out” is a knife that cuts both ways. Their only friend is America and we’re not doing so great with 34$ trillion on Visa, millions of new, hungry arrivals and no sane leadership. How this will stop, I don’t know.
The writing is on the wall for Israel. It’s only reason for existence is extortion of the US taxpayers. The ceiling is about to collapse on the US economy and its corrupted politicians will be shown the door. Israel will be alone. They’ve lied and cheated and bribed and blackmailed for over a hundred years to get and keep Israel going. The old adage be careful how you treat those on the way up, you’ll have to deal with them on the way down will be applicable to their situation. If anyone thinks the current untenable situation is going to last forever they know very little. A world war won’t consolidate their position either. It will spell the end of Israel and the US overnight. The only way out of this mess is massive reform and prosecutions in the courts.
The host is thankfully dying.
With the host goes the parasite.
Ah, so true.
Right you are. Boycott Israeli products, services, everything. Spread the word and shut their economy down for good.
And all praise to the Houthis who are REALLY putting a dent in the Israeli economy!
Viva the Hout’his, Jeano! They are STALLIONS!
Glad I could contribute to your sex fantasies, but what I really meant was we should all be patterning ourselves after these justice warriors who are effective not just whiny. Like for instance, where will everyone be when T-rump is elected and starts the “biggest deportation in history”? Will we be Houthi’s or will we still be here bloviating about how bad everybody else is.
Sorry, Jeano, but my sex fantasies involve Scott Ritter.
I’m ready and waiting with my brand-new Kalishnikov. You?
Kalishnikov? I thought you liked stallions! O well. To each their own.
The GDP is the lowest it has ever been for Israel.
Wanted some avocados yesterday. They were from Israel and going brown. Keep boycotting.
Their economy is down TWENTY PERCENT, Jenny! 😂
Gypsy: Correction - Their 4th quarter GDP is down 20% from last year - which is very different from their economy being down 20% (I wish that were the case).
When all the math is done, real GDP loss = 5%
(BTW, on the positive side, GDP is an inaccurate measure of economic growth even though it is used widely. Also, economies have momentum - hence even though it is a 5% loss, the cumulative effects and trajectory point to WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT LOSSES FOR ISRAEL - Yay!!!)
Explanation (on the off-beat chance that you are interested) :) :-
(1) Let's say Israel GDP is $100 every quarter (4 months) in 2022
(2) Now, 20% down in 4th quarter of 2023 (compared to 4th quarter in 2022) = $80 (instead of $100). Hence, the true impact so far is a loss of $20 for the 4th quarter of 2023.
(3) So, assuming they had 0% GDP growth in 2023, Israel 2023 GDP is $380 (100 + 100 + 100 + 80)
(4) So, compared to 2022, GDP in 2023 = 95% of 2022 GDP. Hence GDP is down 5%
Thanks Chang. Economics are not my strong point, lol..I hate anything to do with mathematics and numbers! When I was a sign painter, I even disliked painting them!
No worries - the MSM loves to fool people by lying using statistics (regardless of what topic the MSM is discussing). One of the things that independent media does is to examine all the "bullshit statistics" that MSM uses and expose them.
Here are some awesome books on the subject (they are all non-technical books):
(1) "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58702146-how-to-lie-with-statistics-by-darrell-huff-w-w-norton-company)
(2) "Damned Lies and Statistics: Untangling Numbers from the Media, Politicians, and Activists" by Joel Best (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15808032-damned-lies-and-statistics)
(3) "Lies, Damn Lies, And Statistics: The Manipulation Of Public Opinion In America" by Michael A. Wheeler (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51292.Lies_Damn_Lies_And_Statistics)
(4) "A Field Guide to Lies: Critical Thinking with Statistics and the Scientific Method" by Daniel J. Levitin (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49646772-a-field-guide-to-lies)
... or any decent thoughts about them, their trials or their beliefs in the slightest.
They are worthy of being shunned by everyone for all the rest of time.
Agreed. Boycotting them is a good start. But what does Israel actually produce besides racism, hatred and weapons? Aside from Calvin Klein underwear I am not aware of seeing the “ made in Israel” label on anything.
Hummus and weapons.
Nell, boycott ANYTHING that remotely benefits IsraHell.
Home Despot ( spelling intentional) for example, has a CEO that gives millions to IsraHelli squatters. They’re #1 on my personal shit list.
Finally… a name, a brand, a product, something. Got anymore retailers or products I can boycott and talk about to my friends?
Starbucks, macdonalds,...
Do a web search on products/services to boycott from Israel - you will find a huge list.
Technology.
Here is a fantastic read: "The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports the Technology of Occupation Around the World" by Antony Loewenstein (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62790909-the-palestine-laboratory)
Lot of Oranges/lemons avocados........
Here in Amerikkka we get that sort of thing from Mexico, thankfully.
"What I’m saying here will be spun as antisemitic by Israel supporters no matter how I put it because Israel supporters are manipulative liars, but to be clear this is not about Jews at all."
It's not, as in one ongoing case it matches entirely what's been going on in Ukraine since 2014 when they started bombing Donbass. Dehumanization of all kinds, from statements by Poroshenko - the then president - "our children will go to school and theirs will be cowering in bomb shelters" to menus in restaurants with atrocious names of body parts of Donbass people, and everything in between.
It must be said, though, that Ukraine was being coached and groomed by Israel along with the US. So there's that link again. Like father, like son.
I had thought that although there was little public awareness or accurate media coverage, that there was a factual consensus that after the 2014 coup, the Ukrainian government and "right wing" (Nazi) militia's began a military assault on the eastern Russian oriented people's. This escalated into a civil war against "separatists".
But I just heard a think tanker on BBC present what I thought was this consensus history exactly backwards: that following a democratic election in 2014, Russia "stole" Crimea and had armed "separatists" and stoked attacks on the Ukrainian people and government. Now, Putin was expanding the war he began in 2014!
Total Twilight Zone.
Brits do what they do best - lie big. Zionists learned all their methods while taking over Palestine.
Goebbels was impressed: "The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb29.htm
Unfortunately, your point is obscured by reading the Goebbels piece: “The wheel of history can not be held back, not even by Mr. Churchill. In his more rational moments, he probably realizes that he is fighting for a lost cause, that his time is past, that he has no hope of catching up.” Propaganda doesn’t require facts, just assertions for a gullible population.
Goebbels was a quick learner, a fan of Bernays' and no doubt Churchill's et al as far as techniques went. Hope you didn't take my quoting as a defense of him.
Exactly. British elites realised how inbred and stupid they were becoming about 150 years ago and opened the doors to their society to more cunning and venal elements of the non aristocratic classes to create a kind of new moneyed hybrid elite which included American industrialists and of course eager Zionists. The average brit upper class twit is a well remunerated front for a ruthless transatlantic elite
Here's another Episode of the Twilight Zone: (inverted history):
BBC Hamas ‘Exposé’ Obscured Israel’s Genocide
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/23/bbc-hamas-expose-obscured-israels-genocide/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=3e0fb4b0-ce45-464a-91f9-1150cf90813a
It’s absolutely reprehensible! I wonder if the writers of any of those deplorable comments have children themselves. Actually, hold on … they don’t view Palestinians as humans so nah … it won’t matter.
Oh yes they do, and they’re raising them with the same disease…instilling hatred from birth. That is the saddest aspect of Zionism - the corruption of innocent souls.
Yes, it is beyond reprehensible.
When people ask; "how was the holocaust allowed to happen" I laugh.
You’re seeing exactly how it was ALLOWED to happen right here before our own eyes...in our own time.
One day future generations will ask..."how was it allowed to happen AGAIN ?" !
BTW, I love your Watermelon Avatar!
In Australia 'watermelon' means someone who is green on the outside and red on the inside. Personally, I'm happy to wear both colours on the outside.
first time i saw it was in a quote from Roberto d'Aubuisson, Reagan's favorite fascist at the time.
Didn't know that. What exactly does that mean - "Green on the outside and red on the inside" ?
Sorry C.C. It means Greenie on the outside and Marxist on the inside. - green on the outside, red on the inside. The people who use that term probably wouldn't know a Marxist from any sort of melon.
Reminds me of the Hitlerists' term "beefsteak Nazis" for SA leader Röhm's socialist faction that Hitler had purged in the Night of the Long Knives, meaning "brown on the outside, red on the inside", since it was where many former members of the Communist Party and other members of the working class had gone, and of course they were the Brownshirts.
Röhm himself wanted to overthrow Hitler, believing Hitler to have failed to fulfill the socialist part of the revolution, and supposedly had plans for wealth redistribution of the richest Germans and nobility. Röhm was well-known at the time to be the only member of Hitler's inner circle to have never fallen for his spell and to have always seen right through him.
Of course, Hitler ultimately had him killed and slaughtered his entire faction, replacing the SA with the SS, and denouncing his former friend as being a "depraved" homosexual—Röhm was publicly, openly homosexual and the SA was known for its gay underground—something he and others had not ever previously cared about, and as a Marxist, etc.
Just how many food metaphors are there to describe people's politics? I would not be surprised if the Australian usage of "watermelon" is derived from Nazi "beefsteaks", considering how much Nazi language has entered common vernacular and continues to poison us today.
Totally agree! That new film just released, Zone of Interest, will be particularly poignant for the times we are living in.
Thank you for mentioning ZoI as I just watched trailer and brief discussion and though the references are painful to watch it is particularly important to understand how we are 'living' in this nightmare without end...insight and discussion is essential...thank you again!
Maybe a bit off topic but yeah, just like the subject of climate change, they don't give a fuck about their own children or grandchildren. They are enjoying the fruits of the neo-liberal paradise.
Hello Caitlin,
Thank you for sharing this. For my part I did not realize what you are going through (not many zionists around me). We are all with you.
Caitlin, this is indeed an ugly reality that I have come across myself. I come across these absolutely evil scum of humanity not only in the comments section of the saddest news from Gaza but also under the much needed fundraising campaigns. I just feel like throwing up when I see such heartless creatures. One of these comments that I kept seeing from a user named Scott Ross Sr. saying that it’s enjoyable to watch Gaza being turned into a parking lot. The sadder part is that Facebook doesn’t find such comments to be against community guidelines.
Says all you need to know about Facebook. I got out long ago. I saw the obvious censorship of plain decency in favor of psychobabble from Zionist Jews who own Facebook.
Same here, Richard.
I cannot stand to read the stupendously vile comments on X, either. I just stay away.
For what it is worth (not much, I know), Caitlin, I totally support your comments. The criticism that you receive from the Judeo-Nazi crowd and their various supporters is of course, thoroughly despicable. But ever since the Vietnam War days, I have come to accept that there is a subset of our species that are capable of such thoughts. They are the sort of 'humans' (and I use that term very advisedly), that make possible the rise of people like Hitler and Mussolini to power.
From my empirical observations, the three things that seem to most often motivate these individuals are either religion, nationalism or capitalism/greed; or perhaps some combination.
Robert, your support is worth a lot - together we are strong. As Roger Waters keeps saying They are few, we are many.
And we are growing.
I'm only referencing America since I live hear and rarely do people talk about what is going on and no doubt if they are critical of Israel they'll be afraid of people thinking they are anti-Semitic, since we have lived with that forever, not to mention many do not know what is going on since the media does isn't informative in terms of the carnage Israel is implementing. In the US multiple wars in the Middle East, millions killed and displaced and very little said by the general public. Ugly I know.
These people are brought up with diabolical hatred pounded into them. It’s like Hebrew school is psychopath training. Can a normal brain be conditioned to psychopathy through early training? Apparently so.
Can a normal brain be conditioned to psychopathy through early training? Indeed it can Richard - Edward Bernays demonstrated that and made a tidy living doing so.
If you start with a barbaric tribal ritual male genital mutilation initiation event at 8 days old without any form of anaesthesia, you have thoroughly & identically brutalised babies. Follow that with incessant incantations that the wounded & brutalised young men are members of a very very special Chosen™ race/tribe that can do no wrong and voilà, the Cluster B personality disorders stemming from the agony deliberately inflicted at 8 days old easily morphs into out and out psychopathy or more accurately, sociopathy. Nature & nurture separates the two virtually identical pathologies of psychopathy and sociopathy.
My question is, "Why do we allow this barbarity when we have laws against child abuse?".
Building on your comment; after the genital mutilation comes the next 13 years of treating every male child as though he might be the messiah. The males grow up disdaining women and used to being treated like their extra special. This translates into the way they view the world and their place in it.
Effectively giving more power to the tribe via deliberately cultured narcissism.
EARLY CHILDHOOD is when PSYCOPATHIC traits are EMBEDDED.
As to the genocide fans you get email from, my bet is that, to a person, he/she has never been in combat, never see other humans thrashing in death agony, and, likely, never even been in a fist fight. In contrast, it's a rare combat vet that's enthusiastic about war.
Well spoken. All these people, instead of playing these horrific war games like Call of Duty to numb down their moral senses, should just for a change play „This War of Mine“ to see the other side of the conflict, the civilian casualties, the trauma and horrors of war and then understand why being a pacifist is better than war mongering from their bedrooms.
And yet on their deathbed how they will all beg for forgiveness of all their sins! Its the exact same when someone goes on a killing spree and the runs from being captured! That's my all time favorite - killing someone in cold blood and then you run away!
Good one. One thing the Internet revels in is lack of moral maturity. That is, a conscience and sense of empathy that hasn't matured beyond that typical of 5th grade boys. So you can't tell if a mean-spirited email if from a 5th grade boy or an adult with the maturity of a 5th grader.
The majority of my family are Israel supporters and apologists. No amount of carnage can unseat “Gods chosen people”. The cherry on top is they’re all born-again, heaven bound and ….. pro-life.
Pro-Life & Pro/Bomb ... True American Bible bumpers.
Pro-life and pro-wanna-kill-all-life-we-don't-agree-with is what you mean, right?
Ask them what the difference is between God’s Chosen People and the Master Race.
I take it pro-abortionists in your family are all for Gazans. Do they know those are Muslim? That their birth rate is one of the major concerns for abortion/LGBTQwhatever happy Israel? That that is one of the major characteristics for which Israel counts as the only democracy in the Middle East?
Some cherry on some top!
Who cares? We’re not talking about reproductive rights; birthrates, LGBTQ whatever rights. You’re attempting to make political/social/ moral distinctions in the face of an ongoing genocide and a tragedy of unacceptable proportions.
Would I like life in the Gaza Strip among the Palestinians? Probably not. Do I agree with Islam? Most assuredly not. Do I lay awake at night worrying about whether Palestinian women have access to birth control? No. I don’t. I don’t care.
What I care about is that the Israelis are doing their best to completely wipe out and destroy an entire people; that they have been engaged in this crime against humanity for almost 5 months, but really ever since 1948. What I am concerned about is that a great many innocent people are being systematically murdered by a weaponized fascist state with the complicity of my government and other corrupt, evil governments and no one and nothing seems to be able to stop it.
Israel is not a democracy. It hasn’t been for a long time. It is a fascist state bent on the destruction and elimination of its neighbors, and there will never be peace in the Middle East until it is stopped. It is the aggressor, it is the criminal, and it is motivated by a toxic ideology that is the product of one man’s 19th Century fever dream. And where Zionism is lacking in race hatred, you can always refer to the Old Testament.
I am pro-abortion rights and I approve of this message.
"Who cares?" - indeed, who does?
You've responded to the wrong comment. Mine was in a similar vein only not as direct.
The uncomfortable truth is its is all hidden behind being Jewish ...plenty of Jewish folks say not in my name but no matter how you jugle the numbers or do the math statistically speaking the tribe backs up the tribe and the Christian ziopaths back then up. The sickness is profound and the moral disconect to humanity is even more so.
Zionism co-opted Judaism and is willing to sacrifice it to its diabolical ends.
Yet the majority of the self identified jewish population near blindly supports it. Or pretends to be blind..or simply choses the propaganda over truth demonstrating a lack of common ideas of integrity and or the intellectual courage to ever find any. Profits off the not seeing .. Not a good look over all for a people ...I like Gilad Atzmons take...The Wondering who? He I can respect .. But I have now taken to side eyeng Jewish people untill I get to know where they stand on the litmus test strip. ...Sadly ,,,They collectively did that to themselves.
Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate and Glenn Greenwald and Norman Finkelsteain. Granted it is apparently a pretty small minority, going by polls, but maybe the polls are gamed the way they try to game everything else.
All my favourite Jewish folk you meantioned by the way... They put their humanity ahead of the tribe or nationalism .
Gilad did and his book is a great read
I said this long ago that I felt the Israelis “kept” Palestinians for the sole purpose of NEEDING someone to torture. Like a psychopath keeps its prey alive till he/she expires. Zionists walking through Gaza shooting children in the head for sport proves my point. This is a tragically perverse society we’re seeing.
The PSYCOPATHS NEED for MANIPULATION / CONTROL
Precisely
If you look at the history n America the founding fathers thought they would fill the land with Europeans that came from the North and West of Europe, well that didn't happen, since people from the south and east of Europe came as well. They were perceived to be grossly inferior, and treated as such. They were often referenced as animals. Some, Italians down south were even lynched, and so it goes. Read the book if you're interested, Working Your Way Toward Whiteness.
The book seems like an interesting read. Thanks for the suggestion Fran.
Yes; and see "How to Start a War and Why".
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/how-to-start-a-war-and-why
Some people refuse to see evil especially if it comes from them. It also is easier to deny the humanity of others than it is to see your own inhumanity, and by now so much evil has been committed by the IDF that to fact would be extraordinarily painful for a supporter.
People deny their own and others humanity when they split the world into pure good and evil when people are both in varying combinations.
Disturbing and sick. And it must be condemned, if we are to hold on to our humanity.
The behaviour of many Israel supporters has also been remarkably self-indulgent. Most people who harbour the sick sentiments which you describe (and they shamelessly express) keep them to themselves.
Democrats and Republicans seem to favour Israel over the American taxpayer and citizen, and have done for decades.
Does it have anything to do with the following? Cause or effect or and effect?
Foreign Reserves by country - gold , cash and credit- seem to tell an Uber-sick and seamy story. Israel has more than 30x more foreign reserves per cap than the U.S., and they cadge aid from US taxpayers.
Israel foreign reserves per cap are greater than those of the US, France , Germany and China combined. See link. Seems like it can’t be true. What is going on? This looks like fraud and ?theft.
Search per cap foreign reserves by country.
As they bring antisemitism to bear so also do they literally bear their ghoulish depravity.
A search on Google shows Israel at about number 10 based on per capita, and # 24 in total reserves in 2016. I see Israel at #19 in another source for 2023, so on the rise.
Perhaps you could share your source for the higher rating, or explain what’s wrong with this one.
https://www.citypopulation.de/en/world/bymap/financialreserves/
Joy let’s use your link. Israel has per cap reserves of $11,375. THIS IS GREATER THAN THE COMBINED TOTAL OF CHINA ($2244), GERMANY ($2132), FRANCE ($2146), UK ($1990), US ($366), AND CANADA ($2285).❗️
It’s also greater than “Croesus- rich” Norway.❗️
Your ranking ( a much less direct measure) has been finagled imo. I say that because Israel seems to be tenth but those ten slots include Macau and HK as separate countries, which they clearly are not, and Taiwan too. As well as San Marino.
The point is about aid and why and how Israel continues to get it, while the US leads the West in poverty and inequality, has Third World longevity, and pollutes twice as much as China per cap. And where did Israel get that staggering amount of money? Would you care to explain how and why the US with 1/30th the per cap foreign reserves of Israel is giving Israel aid? Is this corruption? Congress? House? Senate? And while you’re at it, perhaps you could explain how these gobsmacking data have escaped the attention of the MSM. And the American taxpayer?
I have no ability to explain it. My guess is that it includes, among other things, the billions of US transfers, both government, and personal that are tax deductible. but please give us your interpretation. I was just checking your unsourced figures.
If you haven't read "The Tower of Basel," by Adam Lebor, about the role of the B.I.S. and financial machinations during the period between the two world wars, and subsequent. I wouldn't be surprised to find this rarely discussed institution somewhere in the background.
Joy the figures came from your link.
The link isn't the issue. You asked me to explain how this happened. I replied to that.
Yes you did.
The figures came from your link. Thanks for the reference. I’ll take a look.Switzerland’s reserves are astonishing too.