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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Navalny was a CIA color revolution asset. Assange has been imprisoned for exposing the regime’s crimes. What do your think of Gonzalo Lira? An American journalist dies in Ukrainian prison after criticizing the regime, yet no MSM propagandists spill any ink or tears over him.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Navalny was an MI6 thug who was videoed advocating a terrorist regime against Russia, a color revolution as you point out..When Russia rightly jailed him for treason, he became a worthless asset...whether he died naturally, or from the jab, or by some government diktat, he had become irrelevant and a loose end for MI6...

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Navalny is actually nazi lite. Stokes up hate vs muslims and foreigners in russia. Same as azov

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Keith Odom's avatar

So his opposition to Putin count's for nothing? You know... the big speech by the hero (Richard Burton) in The Spy Who Came in from The Cold was basically, my enemy is so bad I'll make common cause with whoever as long as their enemy is Russia too. The enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thinking. You don't think that's true??? Why not???

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Terry Byrne's avatar

How come Keith Odom can't even describe what "opposition to Putin" that might be? Because all you got to go on, Keith, is the perpetual lying usa/West which never ever provides any facts or evidence because serial lies NEVER deal in facts/evidence.

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ChazLB's avatar

So you have obveously based your entire concept of Russia on the Hollywood (CIA) driven drama depictions of the sacrosanct USA forever battling the existential terror of the McCarthyism red scare 2.0 perpetual fear manufactured for your mindless consumption of Russian sleeper cells hiding under your beds poisied to steal your patriotic lint thus driving the Russia xenaphobia and Putin bogyman syndromes deep down into your easily propagandized brain stem. Noted

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Ymarsakar's avatar

The enemy are pedos. If 2 pedos are fighting, their enemies are not my allies. Maybe stop supporting ashkenazi khazarian child pedo epsteins

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John Day MD's avatar

Khazarian Mafia membership initiations are things we know little about, but I have seen purported tales...

Weeks After US Journalist Dies In Ukrainian Custody, Biden Uses Navalny's Death To Push For More Russian War Funding

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-opposition-leader-alexey-navalny-dies-jail

​ Gilbert Doctorow, Death of Aleksei Navalny: the Brits did it!

​ The Financial Times confirmed that Navalny had indeed died and set out the comments of leading Western statesmen condemning what they considered to be the latest murder by Vladimir Putin of prominent activists who oppose his rule. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, European Council President Charles Michel and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz were among those who already had spoken before microphones and were reading from the same anti-Putin script.

​ In short, what happened in the West this afternoon was a new campaign to vilify Vladimir Putin on the world stage based on a death which was, if I may quote former British PM Theresa May, ‘highly likely’ to have been perpetrated by British Intelligence for this very purpose.​..

..Why would Putin want to murder Navalny, when the man is now largely forgotten within Russia. Navalny is yesterday’s news and his ‘anti-corruption’ campaign is irrelevant to Russians in the midst of an existential struggle with the Collective West that is being fought on the territory of Ukraine? However, the murder of Navalny clearly serves the interests of that same Collective West as an intended antidote to the major Soft Power coup of the Carlson Tucker interview with Vladimir Putin just a week ago...

..Russian doctors at the prison colony were said to have spent half an hour today trying to revive Navalny, but in vain. He is just one more case of collateral damage in the British secret war on Russia

​ Time was, in the days of Tony Blair, we spoke of the British as the ‘lap dogs’ of Bush. Today it would be more appropriate to say that the British have become the Hound of the Baskervilles, ahead of and likely outside the control of Washington.

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2024/02/16/death-of-aleksei-navalny-the-brits-did-it/

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vj's avatar

But, but, Putin blew up the Nord Stream pipeline!!!

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Thomas Scherrer's avatar

Yes, I can easily look at him being Putin's opposition. In a country that lost 20 million citizens and soldiers fighting Nazis in WW2, his form of opposition was to be a wannabe Neo-Nazi that really had a thing for Muslims. I'm sorry for his demise in that human life is precious, but not because he was this bastion of opposition to a murderous autocrat.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

2% ur opposition counts. 2%

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Kojo's avatar

You cannot save anything by allying with Nazis that aim to destroy you. Get a clue.

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David roger's avatar

Evidence of that ?

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Keith Odom's avatar

So what you're saying is, either MI6 got to him there in Russian prison, and killed him. Or... maybe the Russians, for some reason, decided to do MI6's dirty work for it and probably to the detriment of Russia itself,because why???

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ChazLB's avatar

You can't figure out the truth because you already come from a pre-conceived bias created by a lifetime of western propaganda against Russia through Hollywood's (cia) that has whole departments dedicated to warping perceptions of western reality so you come to your false conclusions. Do you care or are you just picking tribal loyalty over truth.?

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Vonu's avatar

Do you work for MI6 or just fantasize all day about James Bond?

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pyrrhus's avatar

Idiocy exposes itself...

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Vonu's avatar

I'd need a microscope to prove you are doing that.

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pretzelattack's avatar

you'd need a brain.

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Vonu's avatar

At least you have all the ad hominem ammo you need.

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David roger's avatar

He worked for MI6 ??

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Fitzjames Wood's avatar

He had some links to Bellingcat I believe, which may imply deeper links to western intelligence. I think the interview they set up with a 'FSB operative' Konstantin Kudryatsev was dubious to say the least (was it him?). They've been involved in a hoax before. Navalny swam in shark infested waters and got chewed.

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Jeano's avatar

Yes, and paid. As Scott Ritter says, you can tell by who tried to free him who he works for. Same with that Wall Street journo.

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AJF's avatar

And my Senators and congressperson ignore my emails concerning the murder of Gonzalo.

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Fran's avatar

Probably because the general public knows nothing about him, or his imprisonment. or because of his critical assessment of Zelensky and a recognizing the war in Ukraine to be nothing more then a proxy war that will go on and no doubt kill a hundred thousand, or more . He was in prison because he told the truth.

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Keith Odom's avatar

The proxy war will go on. They've weaponized everything now.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Neither you nor Fran mentioned that the usa's "proxy war" is just another usa lie. It is a usa Crimes against Humanity using Ukraine & Ukrainians as usa cannon fodder to try to destroy Russia so the usa can steal Russian wealth just like the usa did in the early 1990s, which is what the usa does to nations all over the world, since the Founding Gangsters who founded Gangster "nation" usa.

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Fran's avatar

I know the Ukrainian war was a proxy war to bring down Russia, to drain her the way we did in Afghanistan back in the 1880's and the Mujahideen took care of that for us. I knew it from the beginning, and felt the coup in Ukraine was a prelude to the war during the Biden administration. 

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Fran's avatar

I'm sure it will. I feel the world is getting more crazy.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

That is, was, has ALWAYS been the usa that has made the world more "crazy", Fran. No other nations are to blame except for those scum nations supporting all the usa war crimes, illegal invasions, ... .

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Fran's avatar

I live in the states, but I've never been a fan either, not even as a kid. I knew people, like my father, who could show one face to the world and quite another to us. The US was no different.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

But we should all describe, talk about the usa's pure, unadulterated deep evil, because people's brainwashing must be overcome before the usa forces Russia, China, ... into a world ending nuke conflict.

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ChazLB's avatar

Fran naivenly didn't tell the truth,,, he was a part of the proxy war..a scheme to sew discontent in Russia .where was he a critic ziolensky?

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Fran's avatar

I was talking about Gonzalo Lira, not Navalny’. Maybe I was confused as to whom they were speaking about.

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ChazLB's avatar

Ah yeah sorry i got it wrong too...But I thought maybe that was not the case after thinking about your past responses and how you are on the right side of all this..

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Keith Odom's avatar

???? Somehow, you are saying, that the one justifies the other. I don't think that it does. Why do you think Assange should be freed? Why do youu think that Navalny got what he deserved? Or what are you sayiing???

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Assange is a reporter, new media, no different from what usa "news media" does except he tells the truth while usa "news media" lies its ass off to support war criminal usa.

The usa has no facts, no evidence, no nothing on Navalny which people with a brain should know because, AGAIN, always lying usa, always finger pointing usa because war criminal, genocide, ... usa needs their always rank propaganda to hide Gangster "nation" usa's deep evil.

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Vonu's avatar

Assange is a publisher, not a reporter.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Publishers are also reporters.

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Vonu's avatar

Just as are morons, sometimes.

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ChazLB's avatar

He published truths and reported on them ...where as your legacy media lies to run cover for the western imperialst ..that's the reality .

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russian_bot's avatar

You would know.

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Cynthia Clark's avatar

Broadcasting you’re too lazy to fulfill your Own Duty to Due Diligence❓ Stating Facts is declaring Context not judgement.

🔥 Another VACCINE-INJURED EXCESS DEATH❓ If Russia investigates THAT Epidemic some good may result from this.

🔥 With ALL of THEIR TARGETED ASSASSINATIONS in U.S. Prisons and in their ZioFascist Israeli DEATH CAMP in PALESTINE of INNOCENT Sientists, Physicians, Educators, STRANDED Civilians and CHILDREN, JOURNALISTS and AID WORKERS +ACTIVELY DeFunding UNRWA, DCs CRIMINALLY DEPRAVED ZioFascists will get NO traction painting Putin as an Assassin.

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Wizard's avatar

The Russian government is pushing the vaxx on its people, there will be no investigation.

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ChazLB's avatar

The entire western allied imperialist project pushed it on all their people...

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Susan T's avatar

I think Gonzalo Lira was complicated. I have some problems with his incel side.

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russian_bot's avatar

Cool then he was tortured in Ukraine. Hate those incels.

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Susan T's avatar

You seem to want to put words in people's mouths. I didn't say it was cool that he was tortured in Ukraine. I said I have some problems with his incel side. He seems to me to have been a complicated person.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Gonzalo was hardly the only expat in Ukraine with a retrograde attitude towards women.

That's not why he was tortured and murdered.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

See what I said, Susan, usa bot always runs away, intellectual coward/zero that he is.

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russian_bot's avatar

How come with others you start off somewhat legibly but with me you do no preamble - straight into the raving mad.

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ChazLB's avatar

You have douchebag priors

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Keith Odom's avatar

I think most people are. We just paint with too wide a brush sometimes. Because we all have our faults as wellas virtues. So how do you judge???

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ChazLB's avatar

Stop thinking Hollywood is your fucking gospel.

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russian_bot's avatar

In case you're not clear - you've introduced a non-sequiter and I followed with one. That's all it was.

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russian_bot's avatar

Thanks! Now I know why Susan T missed it.

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Kimberley Homer's avatar

The data we have access to is limited, as it is with 9/11. Alex Jones believing it was an inside job, and Alex Jones being a hateful person, doesn't mean there is no truth to his assertion. Thank you, Susan T, for seeing humans as complicated, and being curious about the implications.

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Susan T's avatar

Hateful people with hateful ideas often say something that is true. For me, it is a problem that some of these people are turned into some kind of heroes and everyone seems to forget the hateful things they said and did because now they are a hero.

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ChazLB's avatar

Don't fall into the "Incil lies about gonsolo,,,he was married and has a wife and was outspoken about destroying the male roll in society and in family with some shitlib woke bull shit

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The full question was: "What do your think of Gonzalo Lira? An American journalist dies in Ukrainian prison after criticizing the regime, yet no MSM propagandists spill any ink or tears over him."

What does it have to do with any of his side? The context is - he vs Navalny vs Assange.

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Susan T's avatar

Well, that's what I think. He was a complicated person. I haven't noticed you saying what you think. you have just criticized me for saying what I think.

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russian_bot's avatar

Well, Navalny had big tits. Anything to say about that?

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Susan T's avatar

I didn't like him. I think it was unjust if he was, in fact, murdered for his views. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is. Your opinion. And I am entitled to mine which is nothing more than my opinion. Take it or leave it.

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Fran's avatar

He wasn't murdered and think he died of natural causes, but his health care was extremely poor and his health issues neglected.

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bill wolfe's avatar

I was going to stay out of what I assume is trolling, but you've confirmed your own idiocy. It doesn't matter whether you liked him! The fact that you're apparently oblivious to this speaks volumes.

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ChazLB's avatar

Susan..the idea he was an INCEL is a fantasy created to demonize him...he was married with a kid...he hated the dumb woke culture and spoke of it ..the description of an "incel" is someone who pretends to be celibate from an inability to be in a normal relationships.. This smear against him was not his stance... but people tried to malign him for it and created the idea he hated women..

And that had ZERO to do with his reporting from Ukraine, or why Ukraine authorities let him die in custody to silence him just like calling him an Incel is an attempt at demonizing and silencing someone... Are we now going to go around persecuting people for their sexual orientations too? Kinda hypocritical to on the one hand defend human rights and denounce a persons human rights at the same time.. just cause you don't like what was said... this slippery slope of fascism seems to be an ongoing danger seeping into peoples minds..

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ChazLB's avatar

Gonzalo posable inability to get laid did not drive his desire to expose the truth of ukranians azov murderous intent and ziolenskys and usa proxy war.

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Keith Odom's avatar

You know...

.... You know... Bravo!!! That's exactly how I feel about it. It's just people behind a keyboard spouting opinions though none of us are actual policy makers or anything. No one here is curing cancer or bringing about worldpeace. So it's just opinionating for fun and profit. The world can take it or leave it. Glad to have read your post. My name is Keith by-the-way...

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Benjamin Mitchell's avatar

Agreed...like the anti Assange bullshit about him being a dirty resident at the embassy and allegations of rape. The Trial of Julian Assange is instructive about the total massacre of due process. This "its complicated" smokescreen plays into Empire power abuse as if it has more relevance than the issues said complicated person exposes.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Agree with all you said, Benjamin, however I feel that using things like "Empire power abuse" helps hide what is actually usa Wars of Aggression, massive Genocides/Holocausts, thefts of massive amounts of others wealth, butchering and torturing innocents, war crimes all over the world. History does not lie, usa rank propaganda always does.

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ChazLB's avatar

Gonzolo was in Poor health but kept in prison conditions to facilitate his end is an act of murder.

Seems all to accepted by empire behavior now.

I would like to think Russia was more humane than that even given the CIA assets trator nature ..but sinse the West demonized Russia for 80 plus years most mindless western prolitariates need that Orwellian two minuts hate cathartic outrage they have been trained into by western society.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

usa bot lies some more, usa bot writes goofy, inane, vacuous nonsense because he knows nothing about the world and how the usa is the problem. How does one know this? Because usa bot is also a total coward who flees from reality, truth, evidence.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

He wasn't an "Incel". He had a wife and kids.

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his youtube videos were "anti-feminist, misogynistic and appealed to incels", apparently. I didn't say he was an incel. I said I have problems with the incel side of him. Lots of men have a wife and kids and they are misogynists.

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And WHO wrote that about him? The same assholes who've been attacking Andrew Tate, in the attempt to silence him, as well. You should probably watch his videos, yourself, if you want to form an honest opinion - rather than getting it from the OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD spooks at "The Daily Beast", the New York Times/WaPo, or Wikipedia.

While I'm sure I don't agree with all of his takes - the quote you provided is transparently part of a campaign designed to discredit and "cancel" him on the fauxgressive to ShitLib "left", since he posed real problems for their Ukraine proxy war narratives.

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Susan T's avatar

Actually, I did watch something by him quite a while back and I didn't like him. I thought he seemed to want attention. You like him, it seems. go ahead. I am not here to convert you to my way of thinking.

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That's NOT my point. You say you saw "something" - what exactly? Why didn't you "like" it? FACTS don't care about your feelings - and his reporting from close to the front (in Kharkov) and from Kiev was honest and important.

I don't care about his alleged misogyny - though I honestly never saw it, personally, in any of his reporting or interviews. I saw a guy whose personal politics I didn't always agree with - but that was irrelevant to his reporting on the situation in Ukraine, and they rarely intruded.

No. Unlike you - second hand opinions, particularly those generated by CIA influence operations, don't have much effect upon me... certainly not to the point of my repeating slanders, or discounting honest reporting.

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El dragon's avatar

Yeah the Leftards hated Coach Redpill. The Daily Beast wrote a hit piece on him that pretty much facilitated his first arrest and didn't help his overall chances.

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I think his politics moved away from the Pinochet-support, over time. Sadly, there's plenty of Chileans and Americans who STILL support Pinochet, to this day.

He was to the right politically and on economic issues, but I still respected his reporting on Ukraine (, and even some of his global economic analysis, I came to find, over time, by listening to him).

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It's always good to get confirmation from an additional source, on any facts that are disputed. Since I don't follow the internal political debate and news in Kiev - I always appreciated when he brought the receipts on that stuff.

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Yep. And Assange fucked those two Swedish sluts. Bad boy!

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Sam's avatar

Bullshit. The charges against Assange were made up and exposed for what they were a long time ago. The Swedish government railroaded the women who making the accusations.

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russian_bot's avatar

You saying Assange was an incel?

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I don't think anyone denies that Assange got laid by those two Swedish women. Just that what occurred wasn't non-consensual. They MAY HAVE BEEN part ofba sophisticated "Honey Pot Operation" - or perhaps they were just used to retroactively manufacture one.

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it all was about bareback, no?

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They were not "sluts" FFS. Neither wanted him charged, and one made huge efforts to try to prevent the legal onslaught. If they are "sluts", then so is Julian.

In actual fact, they were activists who found him intelligent and attractive, and took him to bed. We need MORE of these "sluts", if that's the word you want to use about strong women who control their own sex lives.

If he was less of an idiot he'd have stopped when the condom split, as she asked. I sure as fuck would - wouldn't you?

They'd have got him some other way anyway, just 'made it up' if nothing else arose.

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You get to share the first place with Susan T for not recognizing sarcasm.

Having said that, it can be argued they are indeed sluts, since "neither wanted him charged" yet they went along. They sold him out. They were paid with something. They were de facto prostitutes.

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Gnuneo's avatar

You are misinformed. They did not "go along". The State - unusually, hmmm - decided to prosecute WITHOUT the supposed victim's agreement.

They were not "prostitutes", and I hope you are a virgin until you get married with that opinion of women.

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bill wolfe's avatar

always finish what you started!

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Vonu's avatar

Liza would be alive if he hadn't lived with his enemies.

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russian_bot's avatar

And Layla? Would she?

Would Assange be free if he wasn't a westerner?

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If you were paying attention - Lira was actually very high profile and active, around the start of the SMO in 2022. He was not only big on his own YouTube channel, but was also frequent guest on many others. For instance, George Galloway's The MOATS, The Duran, and several others. While his Zenith was brief, while at it, he frankly dwarfed Navalny as a media figure, in his own right. Navalny was mostly the subject of Western Reporting - but rarely an invited guest that anyone heard from directly. Navalny was a CIA/MI-6 creation, as far as we know about him. But he did no actual reporting, and few interviews. As such, without the OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD presstitutes breathlessly covering his exploits, nobody would have known about him.

Lira was marginal as "Coach Redpill" and his earlier iterations - but once the conflict came to his doorstep, and he started reporting primarily about Ukraine and the conflict there - he was uniquely positioned to provide facts and insight. He earned his high profile legitimately. I was subscribed to his channel. Did Navalny even have one?

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That's not Kaczynsky - that's the picture that the FBI put-out of their "Unabomber suspect" - that looked nothing like him. History has already begun the process of absolving Teddy K and his anti-Technocratic Manifesto, btw. And if my radioshow on LA's Pacifica Station, and founding 911TruthLA, didn't already have me on that list...well... In fact, I'm certain that they did. I've already foiled multiple (plausibly deniable) assassination attempts.

As for what the Corporatist OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD Press (MSM) has to say - I couldn't care less. That was UNEARNED media coverage - and didn't involve him directly. That was merely fake reportage ABOUT HIM. You never saw him being interviewed by Charley Rose - just being plugged in absentia by MSDNCIA and the WaPo, etc.. That was a fraudulent façade, that made of him more than he really was.

Meanwhile, I came across Lira LONG BEFORE his first arrest, as he was being covered and interviewed by honest media, that matters, like GlobalResearch.ca , and the Duran. Maybe we have different algorithmic steerage... But I saw plenty of Lira, and none of Navalny - save for CIA press releases, delivered by the usual vectors.

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As for GlobalResearch, Chossou was someone I interviewed on several occasions, while at Pacifica. I was friends with Mike Ruppert, and if I didn't know Chossou before I became a From the Wilderness subscriber, I certainly was from that point forward. There's no Algorithm that pushes him - just direct emails.

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I'm not part of the Moon of Alabama community - though I do appreciate the reports that I see emerging from there.

My only "Social Media" is YouTube, where I do have an account. That's the only algorithm that affects me. Though the channels I follow there, also probably have some effect as to what comes into my field of view. That's actually how I came across Lira, most likely. On The Duran, or TLAV, or someplace nearby.

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Susan T's avatar

I had a difficult time listening to the cbc news talk about the death of Alexei Nalvalny and how horrible Putin is while there was not a word about Julian Assange or all the people in Palestine or any of the people that have suffered because of US interference and corruption. To listen to them, one would think the US is a kind and loving entity that has to do battle with the evil empire of Putin which interferes with the US aiding and abetting genocide.

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Robert Billyard's avatar

There was a time when the CBC was a big part of my life, now they are the Muppets complementing our politicians who the are puppets and the show goes on.

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jamenta's avatar

Well if we're at church confession right now ... I use to watch the Rachel Maddow show. OK I said it. Forgive me Father, for I have sinned.

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Sam's avatar

Ditto. I can’t believe that she has turned into an intelligent agency asset. Same with Keith Olbermann who has become a hysterical shill.

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Jeck's avatar

My first impressions of both were very positive... another demoralizing lesson learned. Couldn't despise them more now.

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Catherine's avatar

I did too. 😭

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Chris Collier's avatar

I used to watch and enoyed CNN commentators until around 2105...

Now I don't take anything from CNN, CBC, or any other mainstream news source, as true.

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russian_bot's avatar

" until around 2105" - you're way ahead of us.

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gypsy33's avatar

😂

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russian_bot's avatar

As I understand it she's sexually attractive to both sexes. So many watch without listening.

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jamenta's avatar

Well oddly - she wasn't like the blond bombshells they often had on display at FOX news. She seemed more down-to-earth, like your friendly sister giving you the scoop on what was actually going on. It fooled me at the time.

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russian_bot's avatar

Those blond bombshells are too obvious. This one's more subtle.

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Diane Engelhardt's avatar

The CBC has become so Americanized that you can't watch it without getting sick!

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Susan T's avatar

Robert Billyard: I agree. I can hardly stand the sounds of some of the voices now. But I listen every day or two. I think it is important to know what people who trust mainstream media are hearing.

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Keith Organ's avatar

Yes, I can remember when both sides of a story were given and the news was credible. I was more vulnerable to propaganda then mind you.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Isn't western media, with a few small groups, all the same, Robert?

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Robert Billyard's avatar

As I see it there is the corporatist mainstream media fully loaded with lies and propaganda. Then there is the alternate independent media which speaks truth to power eg Information Clearing House, The Grey Zone, The Breach, Strategic Culture Foundation. Consortium News , Yves Engler , Noam Chomsky, Redacted and Unz Review and many, many more . There are numerous excellent blogs on Substack including Seymour Hersh, Piers Robinson, Matthew Ehret, Cynthia Chung, Arron Mate, and Ben Norton.

Canada has very few good independents, the USA has many more some of the best are international, Pepe Escobar, Alistair Crooke, and the Duran.

It is very important to support independent media financially as I think it is going to eventually replace the crippled MSM.

The MSM in Canada receives government subsidies and is in turn a government apologist.

It is very important these days to multi-source our news and opinion and cross reference. Fortress North America is very much a propaganda ghetto. Having an objective world view is now more critical than ever .

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Terry Byrne's avatar

All so true, Robert, an excellent post, thorough as regards non MSM. But with all these great sources what ever changes? Therein lies the problem.

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Robert Billyard's avatar

Its a long haul, there are no magic bullets.

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Wonder who this apparently Canadian reporter is, from days past, doing the Israel's "Canada park" story here, in 2 parts:

- https://youtu.be/yHRbR7nMxN4

- https://youtu.be/NrhaglA5c_w

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ya know, russian_bot, if you had not spent so much time insulting me and trying to let me know how stupid I am, I would have watched these two videos sooner. They are very interesting and also very horrible. I would thank you, but I am not really sure about your motivation.

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russian_bot's avatar

You know, Susan T, if you can point out exactly where I did what you accuse me of then I might accept your grievance.

Please keep in mind - your perception of something does not necessarily mean the intent of the other party. One has to be humble enough to recognize that. Please keep that in mind before you go on gathering evidence.

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Susan T's avatar

look for yourself. My secretary went home 10 minutes ago.

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russian_bot's avatar

And I don't have one, so I'll just pass, thank you.

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Susan T's avatar

google him. he is on the internet

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russian_bot's avatar

It's her. Back then it was easy to tell.

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Susan T's avatar

i thought you meant the producer whose name is on the first video

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russian_bot's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifth_Estate_(TV_program)

There are many journalists listed there. She must be one of them.

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russian_bot's avatar

Also, don't be a sissy and unblock me if you intend to respond. You can mute me if you don't care about my responses, but responding to me behind my back is cowardly, even for a Scot.

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russian_bot's avatar

Phobia suggests fear, doesn't it? No need to fear anything that's natural, as abnormality happens in nature.

Pushing abnormality forward as a norm is another thing altogether. Even in Scotland they should understand that.

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Kimberley Homer's avatar

Thank you, Susan T. This pretty much sums up the state of "Western" thought. You win by stealing from others, and if you're not winning, God doesn't love you. We took the most racist and misogynist tropes from the Abrahamic religions and piled on some English feudalism and Calvinist grind culture for good measure.

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Bakelite72's avatar

Indeed, that is exactly what they want you to think. Let's hope more of us will continue to not only wake up but speak out against hypocrisy and fascist authoritarianism here at home in the USA.

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russian_bot's avatar

Re Navalny - he was a nobody in Russia and never had a chance in anything. Western creation to stir up things over there.

Also, if the West was so concerned about him why did Germany push him out to Putin following his recovery from "poisoning" by said Putin?

The moral of the story is this: whenever a westerner hears from their government/MSM about some persecution somewhere, he/she should know straight away - it's 100% bullshit. Never believe the crap.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Novichok is SUPER DEADLY. If you "recovered from it" - that's NOT what poisoned you. The Russians demanded to be included in an International Investigation, of that alleged poisoning affair - as is their RIGHT under the conventions that created the OPCW. They were DENIED access to any of the alleged evidence and investigation ,- jist like with the Skripals, and the flight that went down in Ukraine. So that's not totally suspicious. /S/

http://dilyana.bg/skripals-poisoned-with-fentanyl/

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russian_bot's avatar

That's right. But the sanctions were introduced right away and that was the whole idea.

Same script currently with UNRWA.

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russian_bot's avatar

This looks suspicious as Navalny's wife all of a sudden turned up at Munich conference, conveniently.

But the thing is - if it's indeed some sort of a special op, it just highlights the west's desperation. It will absolutely have no effect inside Russia. If that's their intent - it's beyond naive. Instead, it looks more like they try to stir up the rest of the world, the west in particular, which may be an indication the ongoing failure is being felt.

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Lenny Broytman's avatar

A story I published last month on how the media feasted on every twist and turn of Alexei Navalny’s disappearance, while barely even mentioning the latest update in Julian Assange’s extradition appeal process.

https://issuechronicle.substack.com/p/the-outrage-and-the-silence

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Rob Roy's avatar

Navalny was a two-bit thug who robbed with his criminal brother. The US tried to make him the "competition" of Putin, i.e., talked about him as if he were a freedom-democracy seeking guy who could unseat Putin, the most honest leader in the world today. God, how can people fall for this crap? Navalny's ads against Muslims were horribly sickening, he hated them so much. Unseat Putin...not in a million years. Putin didn't have him killed...he wasn't worth the trouble. Besides, Putin doesn't poison anyone, but he US public falls for that crap all the time. Idiots.

Thanks again, Caitlin. Don't know what we'd do without you.

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russian_bot's avatar

A few commenters here still seem to suggest he was indeed "murdered". If he was to be "murdered" he'd be done with long ago.

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bill wolfe's avatar

Timing is everything when it comes to propaganda (and murder):

1) Putin interview

2) Russian victory in Ukraine (another Tet Offensive event)

3) Congress' pending vote on billions more military aid (Biden even included it in his statement!)

4) Assange

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russian_bot's avatar

Sure. The thing is it's too desperate of an attempt. I expanded on this elsewhere in the comments to this post.

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Rob Roy's avatar

Wait until you see Masha Gessen's fawning-over-Navalny latest article in the New Yorker. She makes him out as real competition to Putin, ignoring his corruption entirely, praising him as if we've lost another Mandela or King when, if fact, he was the most racist person I've ever heard when speaking of his hate for Muslims and how they should all be exterminated. She says outright, with NO evidence that Putin poisoned Navalny's underwear on an airplane and now murdered him. She writes as if he's a saint we've lost. My god, the New Yorker has lost all respect simply by hiring this woman as a staff writer and letting her get away with outrageous lies..

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russian_bot's avatar

I don't read MSM and characters like Masha Gessen wouldn't write anything worthy. They're on the intelligence services payroll, directly or indirectly, and if one had a chance to discuss issues with them where they'd be free to - and they aren't - they'd admit they're liars. Provided, of course, that they're also decent human beings, which is a big question mark.

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Rob Roy's avatar

What's bad is she writes for the New Yorker which used to be known for its fact-checking. Since 9-!!, Russiagate, and Trump, they don't care anymore and have jumped on the bandwagon of US government approval propaganda.

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russian_bot's avatar

One more sign of the overall degradation and imminent doom of whatever proportions.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Agree. Such behavior (and journalism if you can even call it that) is despicable. Such propaganda and lying has always been the modus operandi of the MSM landscape. At this point, not much surprises me about the "news & analysis" emanating from the "corporate/government-media industry".

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

If he was murdered, it was probably by the West. The Kremlin receives no benefit from turning a prisoner, into a potential martyr. But the West certainly does. He was a CIA asset. But in a prison camp, he was of little use to them. Dead, he's far more valuable.

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russian_bot's avatar

The thing is by now his "murdered" value is worth nothing. The west's media frenzy has absolutely no reaction in Russia. The west can have nothing more than it already has to justify its pressure. Maybe it's looking for more of its own public support.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Certainly that's what the West is doing, currently. But whatever supporters Navalny had within Russia, could also be used to try and gin-up another weak "color revolution" attempt - just like they tried to do, back when he was sent back to jail, for violating his parole. That was an annoyance at most, within the Kremlin - but it was magnified and amplified here in the Western Media.

Look at the nightmare they created in Iran, over the ODD death of that cancer patient, who didn't wear her scarf correctly. The facts are irrelevant. In that case, she just collapsed in a police station - untouched. But everyone was TOLD that she was beaten and tortured to death - like she was Gonzalo Lira. The CIA has their people and information networks set-up and ready to amplify the lies, internally AND internationally. And pretty soon you have a series of externally-orchestrated events occurring within the targeted country.

I wouldn't immediately dismiss the possibility that this might be attempted in Russia. I doubt it will have much success... But there's plenty of Black OPS and USAID/NED money to throw at things like this, too.

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russian_bot's avatar

They might try and I think I saw somewhere warnings from authorities in Moscow(?) for folks not to come out for any unauthorized demos.

Even if someone decides to show up, in the current situation with Ukraine etc, it'll be dealt with rather forcefully and without ceremony.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

For sure. My point is just that Astroturf is fairly easy to generate - and they're going to use the material that they have, to the best of their ability.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Terrorists target women and children. By the time u deal with them, ur entire family is dead. See ukraine and bolshevist revokution and gaza

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pyrrhus's avatar

Especially when the prisoner might provide useful information...

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Susan T's avatar

I am not sure if the US falls for that crap or if they plant it so that they can use it to make themselves look more like a "democracy"

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Gavin Farrell's avatar

It's not like the US government has never assassinated a political candidate domestically. We would never stoop so low.

Except of course for JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, and possibly several other assassinations of political figures. Not to mention many put in prison (Eugene Debbs) or forced into exile (WEB Dubois).

If we didn't have such a tightly controlled two party political system where only acceptable candidates are allowed to rise, we'd probably be seeing more imprisonments and killings of political candidates today in the USA.

The system has been trying for a while to put Trump in prison, but fundamentally though ugly he is compatible with keeping the system going. Even mild reformist candidates like Bernie and Nadar recieve immense pressure and dirty tricks to shut them out.

It never looks good when people die in prison, but hand wringing over Navalny is the pot calling the kettle black.

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gypsy33's avatar

Well said, Gavin! Bravo ❤️

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Joseph smith

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BMeowDawg's avatar

+ Gonzalo Lira, US citizen dead in prison in Ukraine, not a word from the criminal Biden.

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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

Navalny was caught on tape promising to spearhead 'regime change' in Russia for the right price. He confided in a CIA asset said view & spent many years organizing marches & protests where people went around calling Muslims 'Cockroaches' & *insert other profane terms here*... the guy was a Useful idiot who the Americans sought to utilize in order to undermine the foundations of the Russian state. Traitors like him often meet an Ignoble End. Good Riddance!

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jamenta's avatar

"... insane how many of them now have nothing to say about Gaza, or are outright siding with Israel."

Gaza - the litmus test of our time.

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Susan T's avatar

I have been reading "Conspirituality" and one chapter talks about yoga instructors and how some are Hindus supportive of Modi and it goes on from there.

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jamenta's avatar

Someone can say they are spiritual but what does that mean? Just as someone can say they know what consciousness actually is - and what does that mean??

At some point though, I think one should draw a red line on some issues in life - even though what life is about can be a mystery mixed up with fucked up horror - along with remarkable beauty and caring (at least for some of us). And if genocide isn't a red line for you - what is?

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Exactly. Genocide is my litmus test for everyone now--politicians, pastors, potential employers... If you can't acknowledge and have empathy for Gazans right now, you're a sociopath, IMO, and better left alone and blocked on social media.

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jamenta's avatar

It's been an eye opener for sure. :(

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Wannabe spiritual seekers. Just like wannabe your bank emails askijg for you ti pay

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Interesting... I need to read that book.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

One of the more common gurus, promoted in the west - "Sahd Guru" (I think, I used to seem him in internet ads on Youtube, a lot) - is a pet of the completely amoral and nefarious "World Economic Forum", pushing global depopulation (democide) and transhumanism. His laughter mocks the sheep, that they're leading to the slaughter, and into the Technocratic Totalitarian global prison.

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Robert Billyard's avatar

In everything they do and everything they say Western leaders are becoming more and more desperate. The world they thought was theirs has moved on to inevitable change. They can't accept the party is over and its time to move on. They disgrace themselves at every turn.

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Susan T's avatar

apparently Einstein said" the fate of mankind hinges entirely on mans's moral development". I think we are screwed. Not sure if the f word is allowed in these comments.

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jamenta's avatar

... and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophe.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Good. Justice finally

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russian_bot's avatar

Not for you, Susan T, the f word isn't allowed. Everyone else can go fucking mad.

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gypsy33's avatar

Fuckin’ aye it’s allowed, Susan 😉

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Keith Organ's avatar

Any “spiritual” teacher who supports Israel is showing that they are an imposter!

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Vayu's avatar

I don't understand why everywhere I turn people are concerned about Alexei Navalny and no one is mentioning that he's a Nazi. This video I've seen shows him to be a full on Nazi. Is there something not true about it? I don't give one bit of concern for a Nazi. https://twitter.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1758508965904744625

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russian_bot's avatar

"no one is mentioning that he's a Nazi" - no one is concerned Ukraine is Nazi and Israel is Nazi, either. So it's alright.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

You are correct - he's some kind of fascist chauvinist, for sure. But he was also the CIA's top asset inside Russia...so there's that... And as we've seen in Ukraine and elsewhere - the CIA is HAPPY to work with Nazis.

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unwarranted's avatar

I think American elites are closeted Nazis. The wealthy Americans prior to WWII were in love with the Third Reich. Fascism is the destiny of unmetered capitalism, and Nazism is a brand of fascism that stokes racism and eugenics. Nothing unAmerican there.

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Kojo's avatar

Not closeted. The U.S. is the world biggest imprisoner of its own people. Most of them poor minorities. When not in prison the police have full authority to kill them on at will. With no sanctions. Ever.

It’s white nationalism in practice.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Ashkenazi sure

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russian_bot's avatar

"I used to follow a lot of teachers who talked about enlightenment and spiritual practice, and it’s insane how many of them now have nothing to say about Gaza, or are outright siding with Israel."

Absolute majority of them are grifters. Ultimately focusing on their lower chakras while claiming higher enlightenment.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Probably. Most of em being leftists are not of our illuminated order. The real ones got the msg in 2p20 to support donald whether they liked him or not

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

I don't trust anything the mainstream media gets upset about anymore. We're lied to so much. I read somewhere that Navalny had some previous health issues. Not jumping on that bandwagon. As I type I see that he was a CIA colour revolution asset. My tears are for Assange. Please let him be freed!

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Diana

I hope Assange IS extradited to Amerikkka; there are many thousands of us who would go full-on John Brown for him.

I declare my farm an Assange Sanctuary.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

Glad to hear it. I still hope he isn't extradited.

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russian_bot's avatar

Yea, but will it stand before a single BearCat?

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David Avenell's avatar

The two subjects of todays piece are a good fit. Even here in Queensland, a common response to both Assange and Palestine is: "It's his/their own fault. What did they think would would happen?"

In both cases, the classic Abusers' Defence, which I thought had been thoroughly discredited.

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Joy in HK's avatar

“ I thought had been thoroughly discredited.” Only when ‘you’ aren’t the abuser.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

It is navalny s own fault he died. Without lira, no need for him 2

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Benjamin Mitchell's avatar

Wow you nailed it. Listening to Biden bloviate about this guy is vomit inducing after his total silence on the death at the hands of Ukraine of the American journalist Gonzalo Lira and failure to support a ceasefire in Gaza. His venom is seemingly only aimed at any country prepared to oppose his Empires actions

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