Bingo! Humility has to be taught and learned and the Israeli and US governments do not want to learn it or be taught it by anyone else on the planet. That only leaves one option open--they both must be shut down permanently.
Well said. in the US and Israeli "unstoppable force" has just encountered an immovable object. 😁 The only thing that gets Social Darwinist Genocide Joe's attention (that, if he hasn't lost all his marbles, has him surreptitiously begging Netanyahu to stop this because "it's bad for 💵🎩 bidness") is the big time COST HIT on ocean trade now going on. TPTB love 🦍 war profiteering from murder and mayhem UNTIL global supply chain HITS start 💩 tanking their beloved shop-till-you-drop economies. These greedballs KNOW that they are NOT going to be able convince we-the-people that shippers can "justify" price gouging us because, as long as Israeli State Sponsored Terrorism is visited on the Palestinains, shippers have to add 11 days of shipping time for cargo and container ships. And furthermore, Egypt is not going to be a happy camper about their loss of transit fees through the Suez. 😁
Finally, going around the Cape of Good Hope in Africa is FAR more of a problem than an extra 11 days journey. Originally named the Cape of Storms 👀, it was later renamed to Good 😇 Hope 😉 in order to attract more people to the Cape Sea Route. Freak GIANT 🌊 waves are more common on that route on the east side near the Cape than anywhere else 🚩 in the world. The inurance 💵 costs will jump even more than the fuel 💵 costs. Even the North Atlantic, a very dangerous ocean, has less freak GIANT waves (I wrote an article on that. I will post a link if anyone is interested. 🤠) .
December 15, 2023 GCaptain
👉 Shipping Giants Pause Red Sea Voyages, Dealing Blow to Global Trade
🤔 Both the above articles neglect to finger Israeli Genocide in Gaza as the CAUSE of increased shipping costs. As is the norm with these 😒 truth twisitng articles Caitlin Johnstone 👍 has exposed many times, the "bad guys" are the "Houthi militia" 🙄. Not ONE WORD is said that all this could end immediately if 👿 Israel stopped their murderous seige on Gaza. Also, when the U.S. is mentioned, it is only as the "😇 good guy" to "stop the Houthi militia" from hindering shipping with, OF COURSE, U. S. warships!
🤦♂️ Sigh.... At any rate, I expect you will see a quick stop to this Israeli State Sponsored Terrorism in Gaza and the West Bank VERY SOON. Money is the 😈 God of Social Darwinists 'R' US Biden AND Israel. The size of their wallet is the only thing these 🐍 ethics challenged bastards respond to objectively.
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🧐 Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) is a 🕊️ Palestinian-led movement for 🗽 freedom, justice and equality. BDS upholds the simple principle that Palestinians are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity 🌻
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Isreal's control system at home and abroad requires tension to maintain itself in power. The greatest threat to the system is the threat of a sudden and sustained outbreak of peace. It eliminates the justification for and various tools of control.
The corrupt Establishment relies on manufactured tensions across the board for power and control, not merely the Isrealis.
Much like how a Scary Enemy is necessary in the United States in order to justify crackdowns on civil rights and as an excuse why reforms cannot happen "just yet" (we don't have time for that now! Don't you know we gotta fight Saddam/Milosevic/Bin Laden/Saddam again/ISIS/Gaddafi/Putin/Hamas?")
But in reality the enemy in America is anybody living outside of one of there political boxes! If you get put into that left right paradigm, it is not doing no one any good! Except the ones who put there!
Parroting what your programmed to repeat!
On a 24 hour news cycle!
Repeated over and over your side of Paradigm!
All you need to do is click to find mind numbing one sided drivel!
If that is not self abuse I do not know what is!
I assume not much different elsewhere!
But it is a known fact America has been under psychological attack for quite a while! Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs
Ever since I was a child, I recall us Murkins requiring someone to hate: China, the Soviets, various Arab or Muslim nations, Mexican immigrants, the list goes on.
This is designed to distract us to the internal problems we face: hunger, homelessness, lack of medical care, abysmal educational systems. Etc, etc.
Don't think anything will matter much soon. Reading the papers here today looks like Americans will start a war with Iran. Biden is in bad trouble and American warships in the Red Sea are making matters worse.
Interesting how the subcategory of Caitlin Johnstone/Max Blumenthal/Aaron Mate/Jimmy Dore is actually pro-Communist, and thus is myopic to the problem of the West being, precisely, a systemic subversion over decades BY Communists.
How many are in North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela? Concentrated power is corrupt power. Only individual liberty with voluntary free association works long term. Power corrupts.
Ergo we should distribute said power as evenly as we possibly can amongst all the workers of a given society... Concentrated power is the bread and butter of capitalism, after all...
For example: Wouldn't you say a country that has the highest literacy rate in all of the Americas, that has the highest rate of home-ownership in that same continent, that has the highest doctor-per-capita rate of the _planet_, is doing a pretty good job at distributing power amongst the citizenry? I'd say so... (Btw that country isn't Canada, and if you thought it was the USA, go see a doctor...)
"Free association" is just an euphemism for "rich people can do whatever the hell they want" in bourgeoisie democracy, my friend.
There's more people going to sleep without shelter tonight in a single city block of LA than in the entirety of the Cuban isle... But that's just those poor drug-addicted people exercising their "right to free association", amirite? :)
The irony is that the same Mainstream that beginning in the 1940s (and increasingly the following decades until now) mocked and minimized the concern over the Red Scare is the same Mainstream that has promoted our recent Narratives -- Covid, Climate Change, CRT, Transgenders, Ukraine, and now the pro-Israel Narrative.
Hollywood did a number on the American numpty as far back as the McCarthy era to brain wash them into red scare 2.0 the orwelian level.
The cia having whole departments dedicated to warping Americans perceptions of reality through Hollywood to push a mind controlled agenda of Russian xenophobia and Putin bogeyman syndrome you all now seem to suffer from. All while unchecked predatory capitalism you have been trained to worship is sanctified while it actuvly stealer you prosperity and blood sweat and tears right out of everyone's body's while your in collusion political shills run cover for them.. But you numpties still think there are Russian sleeper cells hiding under your beds poised to steal the patriotic lint.
Actually, as Diana West has shown, it was largely the reverse. With a few rare exceptions that prove the rule, Hollywood has cultivated the Leftist disdain for "McCarthyism" and making martyrs of the Hollywood Communists blacklisted -- and as Diana West has proven, Hollywood actually had another blacklist going (one the Mainstream never discusses, of course) preventing movies that were anti-Stalinist from being made.
you're just pushing Joe McCarthy style propaganda here, Hollywood (see Reagan, Ronald) was an enthusiastic backer of the lies propagated by people like Joe McCarthy and the Kennedys about leftists. you fell for an earlier version of the propaganda you write about.
I remain very suspicious that Israel was unaware of the impending assault by Hamas. They knew, they let it happen, which gave them a reason they needed to carry out what only can be defined as an ongoing genocide in Gaza. If it was a response to the assault implemented by Hamas why would they be clearing the land of it's people and making it uninhabitable? The same agenda is occurring in the West Bank but at a slower pace, since homes and lands are taken as are the people's livelihoods. " Israeli forces have killed more Palestinians in the occupied West Bank in 2022 than they have in a single calendar year since the Second Intifada, according to data compiled by Middle East Eye." No matter the numbers, the deaths inform the inhabitants that their homeland is not a safe haven. Israel in it's sense of entitlement and sense of superiority seem to have little to no empathy for the Palestinian people. If there is a coming together, it will take generations to find forgiveness for Israel's savage attack which continues with the full support of it's people.
This is why I am very suspicious they were unaware of an impending attack by Hamas, and they were even informed by sources one was in the works. It tells me they wanted it to happen since it provided them the excuse to rid the land of Palestinians which has always been their objective. How does one acknowledge the NAKBA and claim that's not true.
"Over the course of 2020 and 2021, groundbreaking investigations revealed in stark detail Israeli authorities’ intensifying use of surveillance and predictive technologies to police and control Palestinians. Subjecting Palestinians to such scrutiny from security and military apparatuses narrows their expressive spaces and plunges them into a state of constant anxiety. This practice also carries out a commercial purpose: Occupied Palestine effectively functions as an open-air laboratory for Israel to test techniques of espionage and surveillance before selling them to repressive regimes around the world. This commerce has troubling implications, particularly as more governments have leveraged digital monitoring tools against political opponents, activists, journalists, civil society workers, and others deemed “threatening.” The case of the Palestinians, then, can be understood as an ominous example of how various actors can probe deep into private lives through the ever-watching eyes of surveillance."
"In a televised press conference on Saturday, Netanyahu called the conflict an “existential war” that must be fought until victory, despite pressure and costs, and said Gaza would be demilitarised and under Israeli security control. So Israel is fighting for it's very existence, and therefore no limits they can implement to take down their enemy.'
"Existential war is a war for existence, not for status, power, territory or resources, but for existence itself – as a nation, as a people, and ultimately as an individual. When human beings fight for those stakes, there are no limits."
"Self-defense" is the talking point slapped in my face by my representative and senators after I wrote to them demanding a ceasefire. That, and "concern" with civilian casualties and abuses committed by Israel in the West Bank.
Concern is not an appropriate response to apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.
Self-defense is not an appropriate description for Israel's mass bombing campaign, its destruction of all Palestinian civilian and health infrastructure, Israel's use of starvation and disease as weapons, its arbitrary arrest and executions of journalists and activists, its desecration of religious and cultural sites.
The narrative they try to tell in the face of reality reveals a lot more about them than it obscures the truth.
This is just a new version of the “triangulation” technique perfected by the Clintons in the 90’s. It worked because it’s subtle and nefarious. But it’s shopworn now and more and more people are seeing thru it. So when Killary takes over the campaign of Genocide Joe and starts stirring up more madness, the whole technique will be exposed and will collapse. That will be one good thing to come out of this next year.
The point is very simple, "indigenous-ness' is disingenous-ness. Everyone has migrated from somewhere, except perhaps a few in java and mesopotamia. If we evolved from apes, where did they begin...
Makes no difference, and you make no point, again. Your measure of anyone's evolution is meaningless, gypsy. anti-amerikkkan...lol. But as we're speculating, seems you never did evolve from a base primate, scat monkey.
He claimed this was an existential war where Israel was fighting for its very existence and therefore no limits. This is the SOB who empowered Hamas through decades because they like him they didn't want a two state solution.
“For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank – bringing Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group”, wrote political correspondent Tal Schneider in the Times of Israel last week. “The idea was to prevent Abbas – or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government – from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state”.
Hitler used the logic for holocaust - that it would lead to something "better" for Germany and the world - and look what happened. The same will happen to Nazi Israel.
I guess more people now realize what Iran and others mean when they deny existence of Israel as a state.
I don't think we really know what Hitler was really about; though one thing is for sure for me: I can no longer trust the Western Mainstream to be the only source for the Hitler Narrative. But unlike the Caitlin Johnstone subcategory, that doesn't compel me to be pro-Communist. I can pat my head and rub my stomach at the same time.
"I don't think we really know what Hitler was really about" - if you mean what he was thinking, well, that's true about everybody unless one believes in mind-reading. In that case it'd be interesting to listen/read those reports.
As far as your "I can no longer trust the Western Mainstream" statement - you might be surprised but there's also East. In particular, at that point in time USSR. Are you going to doubt 27 million lives lost there? What was the breakdown of those losses? How does it compare with 6 million accepted number for the chosen ones?
The Hitler Narrative is what I'm referring to. How much of it is true, how much is disinformation & misinformation, is a tangled mess that probably would require at the very least an ability to read German, Polish, Czech, French, & Russian documents from the period in question, basically the first half of the 20th century.
There are plenty books by historians now which cite documents from that era. You can read the books and follow references if you don't believe or don't agree with writers' conclusions.
It's impossible to speak of current events as it's necessarily propaganda from all sides, but once time passes and originals are available there's much less doubt as to what transpired.
I'm afraid that subject is way too complex for the normal type of investigation you describe, since most book writers on 20th century history are myopic to the problem of disinformation/misinformation in mainstream Narratives. Diana West's book on WW2 comes close to sorting out this problem, but she also reflexively assumes the Hitler Narrative is true -- which is ironic, given that she intelligently questions everything else about the broader WW2 Narrative.
Hitler was sent by the incarnate wanderer angels. He got confused here into fighting shadows and destroyed himself as per the shadow qabal s hydra plan
The difference is Hitler didn't have a Samson doctrine of taking everyone else out with him, or the distain for other countries. Despite what is taught, it was his reticence to inflict mass casualties on civilian populations (at least of England and other "civilized european" ones) that distinguished him from Churchill. Of course that changed when England and US began deliberately incinerating entire cities with firestorms.
Ukraine has been modeled after Israel. Israel has been instrumental in setting it up as its mini-me.
By openly supporting and nurturing Nazi Ukraine Israel has explicitly pronounced itself as Nazi. There's no escaping that, and just as Nazis eventually fall everywhere, same will happen to both Ukraine and Israel.
Caitlin, This is exactly the same narrative the criminal cabal posing as legitimate government in DC has been spewing about every intervention they have provoked worldwide for over a century. It's necessary, it keeps us safe, they (the enemy) are evil, so on so forth. How is it that only zionism must be protected even as they attack their own devout jews? People who resent the zionist mafi!
According to Craig Murray, no state (not even an Arab state) has reported Israel to the International Court of Justice , because the ramifications of a ruling of genocide are too threatening to the elites and the international global order. According to the "logic" it is better to allow the slaughter to continue:
"It is not that people are worried that a claim of genocide will not be successful at the International Court of Justice. It is that everybody is quite sure it will succeed.
The problem is that once the ICJ has determined that this is a genocide, it follows that not only are Benjamin Netanyahu and hundreds of senior Israeli officials and military personally liable, but it is absolutely plain that “Genocide Joe” Biden, Rishi Sunak and members of their administrations are also criminally liable for complicity, having provided military support for the genocide.
The International Criminal Court cannot ignore a judgment of genocide from the International Court of Justice and will have no choice but to issue arrest warrants.
But to the global 1 percent whose interests rule the world, no number of dead Palestinians makes any real difference to their interests. On the other hand, the ramifications for the international system of wealth concentration, if western political elites start to be held accountable for their crimes, are uncertain and therefore carry more risk."
Israeli and US regimes have proven themselves to be the ultimate evil humanity is facing right now. They are just laughing at us who still think there can be a political solution. They want us provoked and raging in madness.
The only thing that comes to my mind when I'm going to sleep is, imagine sleeping knowing next day there will be no food, no water, no electricity, no fuel and you never know which bomb has your name on it or even worse will you keep all your limbs intact by the next night.
At this point I'm so devastated I can only wish death to the evil nation of Israel and US.
I have long said that Americans had best pray that that there is no God and that He is not just, for if ever were a collective punishment deserved, then surely we are in for a big one.
"There is no den in the wide world to hide a rogue. Commit a crime, and the earth is made of glass. Commit a crime, and it seems as if a coat of snow fell on the ground, such as reveals in the woods the track of every partridge and fox and squirrel and mole. You cannot recall the spoken word, you cannot wipe out the foot-track, you cannot draw up the ladder, so as to leave no inlet or clew. Some damning circumstance always transpires."
They, along with the "other side", work in concert unwittingly (since they'll claim otherwise), towards the demise of this devilish western construct, including Nazi Israel.
That he is, by definition. As probably most of those numerous protestant sect preachers are insisting on similar "private audiences".
A few might really believe it, though, as does the absolute majority of their audiences. Those orgies are one of the few happenings that always scared me in earnest. And it cannot be explained other than a disease.
Btw, next time you call your rep or senator and put on hold thinking staffers are busy - they indeed might be, just with something you wouldn't quite expect. See the link in my response to Feral in this thread, a little above currently.
Many prophets and seeers are predicting that may come upon the world soon. Louisa Piccarreta as well as so many others predict those days of darkness, like Padre Pio also reported, are soon to take place. The messages at Fatima and other holy sites around the world have warned of this a hundred years now. Repent. Repent and pray.
I get it, and feel it. Writing helps me. And activism, and conversations with like-minded friends. But it's numbing to know that this is going on, and no one is willing to stop it.
Wow I endure the very same laying in bed just looking out the window something so very inconsequential and mundane and all I think about is having an actual window opposed to what is happening in Gaza. It eats me alive and I hope they retaliate and come after US!!!
No worries, Ankit: it’s the beginning of the end for both of them.
I’d personally like to get out while the gettin’s good. Mystical magical Ireland would be my first choice but it’s not easy to get a passport without having Irish heritage. Mexico’s my second.
I found this article on ZeroHedge that IDF are running a telegram group called '72 virgins' or something along the lines. They are actually recording the brutal killings, committing crimes way beyond our imagination and broadcasting them, so rest of Israelis can enjoy as well. They are not just killing Palestinians but killing in the most hideous ways possible. It is difficult to sleep these days. These people are real demons. And what disturbs me the most are the Israel apologists, I can't understand these people at all. Everyday I wake up to new atrocity, I wonder how much more my heart can take.
Yes, I’ve heard of that website, Ankit. I recently viewed a video of IsraHelli female soldiers dancing on Palestinian graves as well. (IsraHelli women are real bow-wows—sheesh.)
Ankit, I go to sleep thinking about the gross inhumanity. I wake up thinking about it. I think about it all day. I’ve considered suicide, not wanting to live in such an insane world. What keeps me going is the hope that after this is all over, I can go to Gaza with a group to help restore the farms and replant the olive groves. I’m a landscaper by profession and a farmer by choice. I’m a senior citizen, but I’m fit, tough and strong.
Let’s try and all hang in there by thinking about how we can assist the Gazans in their recovery.
Not saying you're wrong, just wondering why you think that about israel.
Hasn't hamas taken credit for the 10/7 attack? Are you saying that the elected government of gaza (hamas) was complicit in an israeli false-flag provocation and subsequent retaliation on gazans?
I have seen video of several female IsraHelli soldiers who told the government that there were warning signs for months. The government clearly ignored them because they WANTED this to happen. Talk about a good “excuse” to level Gaza.
So who fell into whom's trap? I would imagine that there have been 'warning signs' of anti-israeli attacks for, well as long as there's been an israel. But, even if true, why would hamas comply?
Do you have any intel on hamas's motivation for the attack and its expected response? I suppose it's easier to plan the attack from a high rise in Qatar than in gaza...poke poke.
I don't know if Hamas was complicit with Israel or not.
But it *appears* that Israel chose to be unprepared and non-responsive during the attack, AND showed additional utter disregard for its own citizens with indiscriminate retaliatory attacks that killed Israeli's and Gazans alike.
It seems to mimic the playbook that unfolded on 9/11 in which the U.S. government was complicit in the attacks and fall of the towers which killed 3,000 Americans.
In both cases, it's not only what happened before and during the attacks, but what happened after.
To me, it's a matter of "when someone shows you who they are, it's best to pay attention."
The U.S. war machine WANTED a reason to enter Iraq, Afghanistan, et. al.
It seems Israel WANTED a reason to go full genocide on Gaza.
What I sense when I read the posts on various sites promulgating the pro-Israel narratives, is that these people revel in the chance to openly display hatred, racism and violence. In the rest of polite society you just can't do that and get away with it, but on this topic, it's welcomed.
I recall many years ago, during the anti-war movement protesting what the US government was doing in Vietnam, I was the only one who brought up this issue, and the reaction was exactly the same as those promoting the pro-Israel position then and now..
They recognized the government lied to the people on Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, COINTELPRO, and the like, but bring up Israel's suppression of Palestinian rights, and suddenly, whatever the government said about it was true, and anyway those Arabs were unworthy savages and so on.
It's good to no longer be alone on this. Perhaps the arc is bending towards justice, after all.
Hi Joy. Good point. I guess racists don't have societal permission to express those impulses, so they jump on situations like what's going on in Gaza to let them all out, and support the lies, even when at some level they know they're lies.
I have to believe they’re not . Its more propaganda & a shrinking group of true hateful believers in the gov narrative . Profiteers Those it directly Benefits ,dolts fools & Muslim haters .oh & those afraid of everything different ?
Why are Hamas terrorists? A: because they attacked Israel.
Why did Hamas attack Israel? A: because they are terrorists.
That of course is circular logic, but many think it a genuine argument and a winning one. They then go on to claim they are capable of critical thinking.
So many are swallowing them using the same mental/emotional/ideological mechanism you are using by claiming they are "lies" - they're just on the other side of the aisle, so to speak. We can infer that the Israeli Narrative is fishy and riddled with red flags, but do we have adequate evidence proving they are lies? Rather than claiming the Israeli Narrative is a pack of lies, I think it's better to insist on their supporters providing adequate evidence, and until they do, we reasonably withhold our support. The biggest red flag of all, of course, is the Western Mainstream (of which Israel is a part) pretending that there are no red flags. This was the same behavior I noticed with the 2020 US Election, and with the Covid Project.
1. The claim that there is adequate evidence, isn't the same as the useful presence and/or provision of adequate evidence.
2. Suggesting I look for it is shifting the burden.
3. If you know the truth verified by this adequate evidence that you claim exists, surely you could have provided it. Or did you lose it behind the chaise lounge...?
It's a red flag when a person doesn't acknowledge the various problems of information about complex events and responds as though there is no problem other than me not doing my research.
Of course, the demolition of Gaza is absolutely not necessary. The nightly news lies. They lie all the time. The news is just one big, continuous psychological operation. "The news" is propaganda. It took me many years to understand and finally accept that but I accept that now.
I just got through watching Oliver Stone's 'Untold History of the United States' for the third time (there's so much to see, I learn something new each time I watch it). As horrible as what we did in the past, nothing was as bad and criminal as what we are complicit in now – and that's out and out murder...playing out in front of the entire world. It's outrageous.
Netanyahu's government is clearly seeking in Gaza the peace and quiet of a cemetery. In that, he has had the full backing of the Biden Administration as well as its Nato lackies.
The unknown factor is who breaks first -- Netanyahu's cabinet because the IDF casualties are too high, or Biden because the floor beneath him cracks as in an Arab government that the US relies on crumbles or Biden's polls tank further. More likely the latter will happen before the former.
For the moment all eyes are fixed on the battlefield where Israel seems to be losing. And how far Israel and Washington can drive the Palestinian civilian population into starvation and epidemics.
They wont stop this is all in the plan as you said cemetery is the peaceful goal they seek. Not sure Zionists or Israel realize This creation of theirs will now & forever be the Abomination that erases & replaces the unique horror of the Holocaust? The Zionazis erased their “ get out of jail free card” abused the favored status as victims This is a moment the Jews ( used yet again by the West MIIC )will mourn forever that the day the Zionists made the Holocaust old news by proudly upping the anti in broad daylight .Now hopefully 🙏 here comes the Zionazi Fall.
It is getting obvious by the day that the attack from Hamas has been fully used by Israel to create this abomination of destruction and massacre and to control a huge piece of Gaza. Israeli intelligence CANNOT have missed the plans of Hamas. It is a deliberate strategic choice, most probably known snd endorsed by US and UK intelligence and secret services. This is as obvious as 9.11, the most gigantic swindle of the century. Israel will no get away this time. The dementia of this destruction reveals to the world the true face of Zionism which is nothing but the flag of Israeli ruthless and delf destructive colonialism.
Just got back from a demo downtown and, as usual, there was no mainstream media there. The only way people know these demos are happening is by social media or email. The media is really on the wrong side of history for this.
Biden said that if unsinkable US air craft carrier Israel didn't exist it would have to be created. Putting up with and spinning a genocide is necessary because the US needs Israel in the region and mad Greater Israel pusher Netanyahu knows it.
The genocide in Gaza is a major unwanted and unexpected distraction for the US (and also scuppers planned normalisation between saudi and Israel as a counter to China's 'wave of reconciliation in the region)- and now no one will normalise with Israel), whose number one enemy is China. (They're cannibalising it's 'allies' in the EU, and impoverishing its own citizens, to shore up the US economy, which is so de-industrialised the arms industry is all it has left, so that it can stay ahead of China economically.)
But Biden cant' turn his back on the golden child of Israel; even though the wheels are coming off and it's going to bring the Empire down. China and Russia grow in humanity, diplomacy and a shared future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt5n12A6WNw
Profound humility does not exist within the Israeli & US governments. Human decency does not exist there either.
To be fair, profound humility is pretty difficult to find in any governments.
Bingo! Humility has to be taught and learned and the Israeli and US governments do not want to learn it or be taught it by anyone else on the planet. That only leaves one option open--they both must be shut down permanently.
Well said. in the US and Israeli "unstoppable force" has just encountered an immovable object. 😁 The only thing that gets Social Darwinist Genocide Joe's attention (that, if he hasn't lost all his marbles, has him surreptitiously begging Netanyahu to stop this because "it's bad for 💵🎩 bidness") is the big time COST HIT on ocean trade now going on. TPTB love 🦍 war profiteering from murder and mayhem UNTIL global supply chain HITS start 💩 tanking their beloved shop-till-you-drop economies. These greedballs KNOW that they are NOT going to be able convince we-the-people that shippers can "justify" price gouging us because, as long as Israeli State Sponsored Terrorism is visited on the Palestinains, shippers have to add 11 days of shipping time for cargo and container ships. And furthermore, Egypt is not going to be a happy camper about their loss of transit fees through the Suez. 😁
Finally, going around the Cape of Good Hope in Africa is FAR more of a problem than an extra 11 days journey. Originally named the Cape of Storms 👀, it was later renamed to Good 😇 Hope 😉 in order to attract more people to the Cape Sea Route. Freak GIANT 🌊 waves are more common on that route on the east side near the Cape than anywhere else 🚩 in the world. The inurance 💵 costs will jump even more than the fuel 💵 costs. Even the North Atlantic, a very dangerous ocean, has less freak GIANT waves (I wrote an article on that. I will post a link if anyone is interested. 🤠) .
December 15, 2023 GCaptain
👉 Shipping Giants Pause Red Sea Voyages, Dealing Blow to Global Trade
https://gcaptain.com/shipping-giants-pause-red-sea-voyages-dealing-blow-to-global-trade/
December 15, 2023 GCaptain
👉 Houthi Attacks on Shipping Could Spark Supply Chain Crisis
https://gcaptain.com/houthi-attacks-on-shipping-could-spark-supply-chain-crisis/
🤔 Both the above articles neglect to finger Israeli Genocide in Gaza as the CAUSE of increased shipping costs. As is the norm with these 😒 truth twisitng articles Caitlin Johnstone 👍 has exposed many times, the "bad guys" are the "Houthi militia" 🙄. Not ONE WORD is said that all this could end immediately if 👿 Israel stopped their murderous seige on Gaza. Also, when the U.S. is mentioned, it is only as the "😇 good guy" to "stop the Houthi militia" from hindering shipping with, OF COURSE, U. S. warships!
🤦♂️ Sigh.... At any rate, I expect you will see a quick stop to this Israeli State Sponsored Terrorism in Gaza and the West Bank VERY SOON. Money is the 😈 God of Social Darwinists 'R' US Biden AND Israel. The size of their wallet is the only thing these 🐍 ethics challenged bastards respond to objectively.
You reading this, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT and 🚀 join the ✨ BDS movement. Don't buy ANYTHING form Puma, HP and the others on the BDS list who aid and abett Israeli Despotic Apartheid.
🧐 Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) is a 🕊️ Palestinian-led movement for 🗽 freedom, justice and equality. BDS upholds the simple principle that Palestinians are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity 🌻
https://bdsmovement.net/economic-boycott
China can just shut off the electronics component supply and even the USA military rely on them.
I dunno,.they seem all too human to me.
If your idea of human is stark raving lying psycopaths
They aren't all Greenies and open doors.
Feral, you and I know that cats are a far superior species. Cats are so unique in their abilities that I truly believe they could be extraterrestrial.
I’m sure you’re familiar with the Mark Twain quote as well!
We are simply Bastet's kittens.
“Cats were once worshipped as Gods; cats have never gotten over this”.
In my household, they still are!
As well it should be.
My cats and chi got along great..but she was the house monitor..no fighting while she was on duty...I miss that pup,,,now they run wild knocking over all my wife's chockies
Cats are a dna step down of elohim
Agree!
Isreal's control system at home and abroad requires tension to maintain itself in power. The greatest threat to the system is the threat of a sudden and sustained outbreak of peace. It eliminates the justification for and various tools of control.
The corrupt Establishment relies on manufactured tensions across the board for power and control, not merely the Isrealis.
Much like how a Scary Enemy is necessary in the United States in order to justify crackdowns on civil rights and as an excuse why reforms cannot happen "just yet" (we don't have time for that now! Don't you know we gotta fight Saddam/Milosevic/Bin Laden/Saddam again/ISIS/Gaddafi/Putin/Hamas?")
Yes. For as long as I have been interested in US politics the 'scare machine' has been used. China/Russia etc.
Here in the states we call it the bogeyman!
Hides in your dark closet with the moth balls.
But in reality the enemy in America is anybody living outside of one of there political boxes! If you get put into that left right paradigm, it is not doing no one any good! Except the ones who put there!
Parroting what your programmed to repeat!
On a 24 hour news cycle!
Repeated over and over your side of Paradigm!
All you need to do is click to find mind numbing one sided drivel!
If that is not self abuse I do not know what is!
I assume not much different elsewhere!
But it is a known fact America has been under psychological attack for quite a while! Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs
Spot on . been saying the same for years...glad im not the only one who can see through generations of it
Takes time to break thru all of the of abuse!
But then when you do, there’s no one to talk too!
You are isolated and censored!
That’s the America I know!
Fortunately I am happy with solitude!
Working with what I got!
How many American, European,Australian
Secret Online police do you think are here?
Only save space to talk face to face is the woods!
On the beach!
Or down a dark alley!
American society is turning into brown shirts!
Who is listening and who are you actually talking too!
This to me this is obvious, give someone in America a different reality then
The Main stream propaganda and you will still get this response 90% of the time! Is that aluminum hat on tight?
Sure is, my parrot has one too!
We are out here, but not seen or heard very often thanks!
Safe space wow not save space
Hi Jenny
Ever since I was a child, I recall us Murkins requiring someone to hate: China, the Soviets, various Arab or Muslim nations, Mexican immigrants, the list goes on.
This is designed to distract us to the internal problems we face: hunger, homelessness, lack of medical care, abysmal educational systems. Etc, etc.
Hey Gypsy. Yes true
Wars too are a distraction!
Don't think anything will matter much soon. Reading the papers here today looks like Americans will start a war with Iran. Biden is in bad trouble and American warships in the Red Sea are making matters worse.
Interesting how the subcategory of Caitlin Johnstone/Max Blumenthal/Aaron Mate/Jimmy Dore is actually pro-Communist, and thus is myopic to the problem of the West being, precisely, a systemic subversion over decades BY Communists.
They are NOT pro-Communist they are liberal socialists.
Read more books and stop watching Teevee.
1) Not taking a stand against Communism = enabling Communism.
2) Their reluctance to condemn Communism includes a myopia to Communist subversion as the #1 threat to the West
3) They probably think the West is evil through and through, from the beginning to now, essentially.
1+2+3 = I don't care what flavor they call themselves, they are enabling Communism.
Making Communism your enemy only gives it power. To my way of thinking, fascism is worse. And that's where we're headed.
That's right. Buford T Justice gave it ample definition.
"A systemic subversion over decades by communists"...
Tell me, comrade, how many means of production are in the hands of workers in this "subverted" Capitalist World Order you seem to believe in?
And how many are in the hands of old, useless, rich white men that haven't worked for decades?
Please add 'em up and get back to me, cheers!
"What's funny about rich people complaining that poor people don't work and are a drain on society is that every rich person does negative work.
That is, it takes far more work to accommodate their life than their labor could possibly produce. They are the real drain on society."
~Existential Comics
Well said, Jamenta!
Bingo!
How many are in North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela? Concentrated power is corrupt power. Only individual liberty with voluntary free association works long term. Power corrupts.
Ergo we should distribute said power as evenly as we possibly can amongst all the workers of a given society... Concentrated power is the bread and butter of capitalism, after all...
For example: Wouldn't you say a country that has the highest literacy rate in all of the Americas, that has the highest rate of home-ownership in that same continent, that has the highest doctor-per-capita rate of the _planet_, is doing a pretty good job at distributing power amongst the citizenry? I'd say so... (Btw that country isn't Canada, and if you thought it was the USA, go see a doctor...)
"Free association" is just an euphemism for "rich people can do whatever the hell they want" in bourgeoisie democracy, my friend.
There's more people going to sleep without shelter tonight in a single city block of LA than in the entirety of the Cuban isle... But that's just those poor drug-addicted people exercising their "right to free association", amirite? :)
What, the “Red Scare” thang again?
Gee, I remember that back in the ‘60’s.
I’m shakin’ in my cowgirl boots 😂
The irony is that the same Mainstream that beginning in the 1940s (and increasingly the following decades until now) mocked and minimized the concern over the Red Scare is the same Mainstream that has promoted our recent Narratives -- Covid, Climate Change, CRT, Transgenders, Ukraine, and now the pro-Israel Narrative.
Maybe the bigger concern was the capitalist greed scare which nobody noticed as long as they could keep buying their cars and big houses.
Hollywood did a number on the American numpty as far back as the McCarthy era to brain wash them into red scare 2.0 the orwelian level.
The cia having whole departments dedicated to warping Americans perceptions of reality through Hollywood to push a mind controlled agenda of Russian xenophobia and Putin bogeyman syndrome you all now seem to suffer from. All while unchecked predatory capitalism you have been trained to worship is sanctified while it actuvly stealer you prosperity and blood sweat and tears right out of everyone's body's while your in collusion political shills run cover for them.. But you numpties still think there are Russian sleeper cells hiding under your beds poised to steal the patriotic lint.
Actually, as Diana West has shown, it was largely the reverse. With a few rare exceptions that prove the rule, Hollywood has cultivated the Leftist disdain for "McCarthyism" and making martyrs of the Hollywood Communists blacklisted -- and as Diana West has proven, Hollywood actually had another blacklist going (one the Mainstream never discusses, of course) preventing movies that were anti-Stalinist from being made.
you're just pushing Joe McCarthy style propaganda here, Hollywood (see Reagan, Ronald) was an enthusiastic backer of the lies propagated by people like Joe McCarthy and the Kennedys about leftists. you fell for an earlier version of the propaganda you write about.
Brilliantly done. Thank you.
I remain very suspicious that Israel was unaware of the impending assault by Hamas. They knew, they let it happen, which gave them a reason they needed to carry out what only can be defined as an ongoing genocide in Gaza. If it was a response to the assault implemented by Hamas why would they be clearing the land of it's people and making it uninhabitable? The same agenda is occurring in the West Bank but at a slower pace, since homes and lands are taken as are the people's livelihoods. " Israeli forces have killed more Palestinians in the occupied West Bank in 2022 than they have in a single calendar year since the Second Intifada, according to data compiled by Middle East Eye." No matter the numbers, the deaths inform the inhabitants that their homeland is not a safe haven. Israel in it's sense of entitlement and sense of superiority seem to have little to no empathy for the Palestinian people. If there is a coming together, it will take generations to find forgiveness for Israel's savage attack which continues with the full support of it's people.
This is why I am very suspicious they were unaware of an impending attack by Hamas, and they were even informed by sources one was in the works. It tells me they wanted it to happen since it provided them the excuse to rid the land of Palestinians which has always been their objective. How does one acknowledge the NAKBA and claim that's not true.
https://www.mei.edu/publications/nowhere-hide-impact-israels-digital-surveillance-regime-palestinians
"Over the course of 2020 and 2021, groundbreaking investigations revealed in stark detail Israeli authorities’ intensifying use of surveillance and predictive technologies to police and control Palestinians. Subjecting Palestinians to such scrutiny from security and military apparatuses narrows their expressive spaces and plunges them into a state of constant anxiety. This practice also carries out a commercial purpose: Occupied Palestine effectively functions as an open-air laboratory for Israel to test techniques of espionage and surveillance before selling them to repressive regimes around the world. This commerce has troubling implications, particularly as more governments have leveraged digital monitoring tools against political opponents, activists, journalists, civil society workers, and others deemed “threatening.” The case of the Palestinians, then, can be understood as an ominous example of how various actors can probe deep into private lives through the ever-watching eyes of surveillance."
So much for Netanyahu's ability to seek peace.
"In a televised press conference on Saturday, Netanyahu called the conflict an “existential war” that must be fought until victory, despite pressure and costs, and said Gaza would be demilitarised and under Israeli security control. So Israel is fighting for it's very existence, and therefore no limits they can implement to take down their enemy.'
"Existential war is a war for existence, not for status, power, territory or resources, but for existence itself – as a nation, as a people, and ultimately as an individual. When human beings fight for those stakes, there are no limits."
Not to mention that in 1978 Israel was attacked Oct 6, or 7, the Yom Kippur War.
"Self-defense" is the talking point slapped in my face by my representative and senators after I wrote to them demanding a ceasefire. That, and "concern" with civilian casualties and abuses committed by Israel in the West Bank.
Concern is not an appropriate response to apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.
Self-defense is not an appropriate description for Israel's mass bombing campaign, its destruction of all Palestinian civilian and health infrastructure, Israel's use of starvation and disease as weapons, its arbitrary arrest and executions of journalists and activists, its desecration of religious and cultural sites.
The narrative they try to tell in the face of reality reveals a lot more about them than it obscures the truth.
This is just a new version of the “triangulation” technique perfected by the Clintons in the 90’s. It worked because it’s subtle and nefarious. But it’s shopworn now and more and more people are seeing thru it. So when Killary takes over the campaign of Genocide Joe and starts stirring up more madness, the whole technique will be exposed and will collapse. That will be one good thing to come out of this next year.
Occupiers have no such right to self defense. That right is for the occupied.
What a pathetic statement.
Where do you live? and where did your ancestors 1,000 years ago live? Where were they 150,000 years ago?
Demonia go away
where to? my indigenous homeland...where's that? What place on earth do I have the right to go kill someone and take that land?
What’s your fucking point?
The one on your head?
The point is very simple, "indigenous-ness' is disingenous-ness. Everyone has migrated from somewhere, except perhaps a few in java and mesopotamia. If we evolved from apes, where did they begin...
Sounds like you personally have ceased to evolve.
Makes no difference, and you make no point, again. Your measure of anyone's evolution is meaningless, gypsy. anti-amerikkkan...lol. But as we're speculating, seems you never did evolve from a base primate, scat monkey.
Poignant
He claimed this was an existential war where Israel was fighting for its very existence and therefore no limits. This is the SOB who empowered Hamas through decades because they like him they didn't want a two state solution.
“For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank – bringing Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group”, wrote political correspondent Tal Schneider in the Times of Israel last week. “The idea was to prevent Abbas – or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government – from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state”.
The natural reply is hamas has the right to self defense palestine
If we are told that the genocide of Palestinians will lead to peace, ask them if the same logic does not apply to The Holocaust.
For the record, I am against genocide. I also am against double standards and special pleading.
Hitler used the logic for holocaust - that it would lead to something "better" for Germany and the world - and look what happened. The same will happen to Nazi Israel.
I guess more people now realize what Iran and others mean when they deny existence of Israel as a state.
I don't think we really know what Hitler was really about; though one thing is for sure for me: I can no longer trust the Western Mainstream to be the only source for the Hitler Narrative. But unlike the Caitlin Johnstone subcategory, that doesn't compel me to be pro-Communist. I can pat my head and rub my stomach at the same time.
"I don't think we really know what Hitler was really about" - if you mean what he was thinking, well, that's true about everybody unless one believes in mind-reading. In that case it'd be interesting to listen/read those reports.
As far as your "I can no longer trust the Western Mainstream" statement - you might be surprised but there's also East. In particular, at that point in time USSR. Are you going to doubt 27 million lives lost there? What was the breakdown of those losses? How does it compare with 6 million accepted number for the chosen ones?
The Hitler Narrative is what I'm referring to. How much of it is true, how much is disinformation & misinformation, is a tangled mess that probably would require at the very least an ability to read German, Polish, Czech, French, & Russian documents from the period in question, basically the first half of the 20th century.
There are plenty books by historians now which cite documents from that era. You can read the books and follow references if you don't believe or don't agree with writers' conclusions.
It's impossible to speak of current events as it's necessarily propaganda from all sides, but once time passes and originals are available there's much less doubt as to what transpired.
I'm afraid that subject is way too complex for the normal type of investigation you describe, since most book writers on 20th century history are myopic to the problem of disinformation/misinformation in mainstream Narratives. Diana West's book on WW2 comes close to sorting out this problem, but she also reflexively assumes the Hitler Narrative is true -- which is ironic, given that she intelligently questions everything else about the broader WW2 Narrative.
Half is prob disinfo
Hitler was sent by the incarnate wanderer angels. He got confused here into fighting shadows and destroyed himself as per the shadow qabal s hydra plan
How true (last line)
The difference is Hitler didn't have a Samson doctrine of taking everyone else out with him, or the distain for other countries. Despite what is taught, it was his reticence to inflict mass casualties on civilian populations (at least of England and other "civilized european" ones) that distinguished him from Churchill. Of course that changed when England and US began deliberately incinerating entire cities with firestorms.
"Hitler didn't have a Samson doctrine" - no, he didn't. If he did, he'd use it so he's no better than current Israel.
As to his "reticence" it looks like you don't count USSR among deserving countries. Just like Hitler.
Maybe so.
As far as Russia, you should read my stack since the Ukraine conflict began. I think Russia is legitimately defending itself from neocon aggression.
Ukraine has been modeled after Israel. Israel has been instrumental in setting it up as its mini-me.
By openly supporting and nurturing Nazi Ukraine Israel has explicitly pronounced itself as Nazi. There's no escaping that, and just as Nazis eventually fall everywhere, same will happen to both Ukraine and Israel.
Khazarian mafia
Yep, like Mao's cultural revolution or Stalin's purges
Caitlin, This is exactly the same narrative the criminal cabal posing as legitimate government in DC has been spewing about every intervention they have provoked worldwide for over a century. It's necessary, it keeps us safe, they (the enemy) are evil, so on so forth. How is it that only zionism must be protected even as they attack their own devout jews? People who resent the zionist mafi!
According to Craig Murray, no state (not even an Arab state) has reported Israel to the International Court of Justice , because the ramifications of a ruling of genocide are too threatening to the elites and the international global order. According to the "logic" it is better to allow the slaughter to continue:
"It is not that people are worried that a claim of genocide will not be successful at the International Court of Justice. It is that everybody is quite sure it will succeed.
The problem is that once the ICJ has determined that this is a genocide, it follows that not only are Benjamin Netanyahu and hundreds of senior Israeli officials and military personally liable, but it is absolutely plain that “Genocide Joe” Biden, Rishi Sunak and members of their administrations are also criminally liable for complicity, having provided military support for the genocide.
The International Criminal Court cannot ignore a judgment of genocide from the International Court of Justice and will have no choice but to issue arrest warrants.
But to the global 1 percent whose interests rule the world, no number of dead Palestinians makes any real difference to their interests. On the other hand, the ramifications for the international system of wealth concentration, if western political elites start to be held accountable for their crimes, are uncertain and therefore carry more risk."
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/12/15/craig-murray-murder/
Israeli and US regimes have proven themselves to be the ultimate evil humanity is facing right now. They are just laughing at us who still think there can be a political solution. They want us provoked and raging in madness.
The only thing that comes to my mind when I'm going to sleep is, imagine sleeping knowing next day there will be no food, no water, no electricity, no fuel and you never know which bomb has your name on it or even worse will you keep all your limbs intact by the next night.
At this point I'm so devastated I can only wish death to the evil nation of Israel and US.
I have long said that Americans had best pray that that there is no God and that He is not just, for if ever were a collective punishment deserved, then surely we are in for a big one.
"There is no den in the wide world to hide a rogue. Commit a crime, and the earth is made of glass. Commit a crime, and it seems as if a coat of snow fell on the ground, such as reveals in the woods the track of every partridge and fox and squirrel and mole. You cannot recall the spoken word, you cannot wipe out the foot-track, you cannot draw up the ladder, so as to leave no inlet or clew. Some damning circumstance always transpires."
~Emerson
Too late. Judgment is here
Mike Johnson saying God spoke to him proves he and his ilk are indeed insane.
https://youtu.be/RDqcsgw5ujU?t=142
They, along with the "other side", work in concert unwittingly (since they'll claim otherwise), towards the demise of this devilish western construct, including Nazi Israel.
I think the water in Congress has something in it..........maybe we should send a plumber!
Not just congress. The whole ruling structure needs draining. Imagine the size of a plunger needed.
GIGANTIC!
Someone should put thorazine in the DC water supply.
Arsenic, Feral, if it’s only supplied to the WH, Congress, and the Pentagon.
If I were to speak my mind, I'd get a visit from Homeland Security.
Hiccups forever?
Given this type of activity taking place in the "People's House" - absolutely!
https://dailycaller.com/2023/12/15/staffer-caught-filming-sex-tape-senate-hearing-room/
The best was when Dubya said GOD had told him to invade Iraq only to discover he was dyslexic and it was actually his DOG
I THOUGHT I remembered something about Dubya & God. Thanks for the confirmation.
😂
Or he is simply a liar, relying on argument from spurious authority.
That he is, by definition. As probably most of those numerous protestant sect preachers are insisting on similar "private audiences".
A few might really believe it, though, as does the absolute majority of their audiences. Those orgies are one of the few happenings that always scared me in earnest. And it cannot be explained other than a disease.
Hi RB
Sounds like he’s schizophrenic.
And he's not alone there in the "People's House".
Btw, next time you call your rep or senator and put on hold thinking staffers are busy - they indeed might be, just with something you wouldn't quite expect. See the link in my response to Feral in this thread, a little above currently.
Many prophets and seeers are predicting that may come upon the world soon. Louisa Piccarreta as well as so many others predict those days of darkness, like Padre Pio also reported, are soon to take place. The messages at Fatima and other holy sites around the world have warned of this a hundred years now. Repent. Repent and pray.
I get it, and feel it. Writing helps me. And activism, and conversations with like-minded friends. But it's numbing to know that this is going on, and no one is willing to stop it.
Agree, Ankit.
I go to sleep thinking about the slaughter.
I wake up thinking about it.
All day long I experience the most intense guilt that I have a roof over my head, warmth, and enough to eat.
If I could trade places with a Gazan family, I would happily do so. But why would they want to live here in the United Snakes?
Karma is manifesting. Rest assured. Gaza and ukraine died to nazi anti humans but their karma will make them envy gaza
My hope is that the ghosts of thousands of dead children haunt Satanyahu and his henchmen for eternity and beyond.
Wow I endure the very same laying in bed just looking out the window something so very inconsequential and mundane and all I think about is having an actual window opposed to what is happening in Gaza. It eats me alive and I hope they retaliate and come after US!!!
Middle East nations cutting off our oil would have a very desirable effect on what Amerikkka DESERVES, BJ!
It's coming - this is huge - the entire situation. These are not so small ass little players.
You're talking about Iran Turkey Russia and China versus who? This is all about power
No worries, Ankit: it’s the beginning of the end for both of them.
I’d personally like to get out while the gettin’s good. Mystical magical Ireland would be my first choice but it’s not easy to get a passport without having Irish heritage. Mexico’s my second.
I found this article on ZeroHedge that IDF are running a telegram group called '72 virgins' or something along the lines. They are actually recording the brutal killings, committing crimes way beyond our imagination and broadcasting them, so rest of Israelis can enjoy as well. They are not just killing Palestinians but killing in the most hideous ways possible. It is difficult to sleep these days. These people are real demons. And what disturbs me the most are the Israel apologists, I can't understand these people at all. Everyday I wake up to new atrocity, I wonder how much more my heart can take.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-psyop-unit-runs-war-porn-telegram-channel-glorifying-idf-misconduct
Yes, I’ve heard of that website, Ankit. I recently viewed a video of IsraHelli female soldiers dancing on Palestinian graves as well. (IsraHelli women are real bow-wows—sheesh.)
Ankit, I go to sleep thinking about the gross inhumanity. I wake up thinking about it. I think about it all day. I’ve considered suicide, not wanting to live in such an insane world. What keeps me going is the hope that after this is all over, I can go to Gaza with a group to help restore the farms and replant the olive groves. I’m a landscaper by profession and a farmer by choice. I’m a senior citizen, but I’m fit, tough and strong.
Let’s try and all hang in there by thinking about how we can assist the Gazans in their recovery.
It looks more and more likely that Israel *wanted* to be attacked to justify what has transpired since.
Just like the U.S. *wanted* (read: was complicit) to be attacked on 9/11 to justify our invasions that transpired after.
Not saying you're wrong, just wondering why you think that about israel.
Hasn't hamas taken credit for the 10/7 attack? Are you saying that the elected government of gaza (hamas) was complicit in an israeli false-flag provocation and subsequent retaliation on gazans?
I have seen video of several female IsraHelli soldiers who told the government that there were warning signs for months. The government clearly ignored them because they WANTED this to happen. Talk about a good “excuse” to level Gaza.
So who fell into whom's trap? I would imagine that there have been 'warning signs' of anti-israeli attacks for, well as long as there's been an israel. But, even if true, why would hamas comply?
Do you have any intel on hamas's motivation for the attack and its expected response? I suppose it's easier to plan the attack from a high rise in Qatar than in gaza...poke poke.
Well, we also now know that at least 2 or 3 of the "hijackers" on 9/11 were recruited by the CIA months before the "attack."
Note the quotes I use above.
And yes, it seems more of a cooperative effort than anyone 'trapped" anyone.
And it also depends on what page you open the book to when you begin an analysis.
I agree the 9/11 crap stinks.
I don't know if Hamas was complicit with Israel or not.
But it *appears* that Israel chose to be unprepared and non-responsive during the attack, AND showed additional utter disregard for its own citizens with indiscriminate retaliatory attacks that killed Israeli's and Gazans alike.
It seems to mimic the playbook that unfolded on 9/11 in which the U.S. government was complicit in the attacks and fall of the towers which killed 3,000 Americans.
In both cases, it's not only what happened before and during the attacks, but what happened after.
To me, it's a matter of "when someone shows you who they are, it's best to pay attention."
The U.S. war machine WANTED a reason to enter Iraq, Afghanistan, et. al.
It seems Israel WANTED a reason to go full genocide on Gaza.
That last sentence captures it all. Caitlin's coulda-shoulda-would completely missed the point. Genocide is what Israel WANTED.
Such a pack of lies, it's hard to believe that so many are swallowing them.
What I sense when I read the posts on various sites promulgating the pro-Israel narratives, is that these people revel in the chance to openly display hatred, racism and violence. In the rest of polite society you just can't do that and get away with it, but on this topic, it's welcomed.
I recall many years ago, during the anti-war movement protesting what the US government was doing in Vietnam, I was the only one who brought up this issue, and the reaction was exactly the same as those promoting the pro-Israel position then and now..
They recognized the government lied to the people on Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, COINTELPRO, and the like, but bring up Israel's suppression of Palestinian rights, and suddenly, whatever the government said about it was true, and anyway those Arabs were unworthy savages and so on.
It's good to no longer be alone on this. Perhaps the arc is bending towards justice, after all.
Hi Joy. Good point. I guess racists don't have societal permission to express those impulses, so they jump on situations like what's going on in Gaza to let them all out, and support the lies, even when at some level they know they're lies.
Yes Diana and now it's going to get worse with Ukraine. The liars will be out in huge numbers as the propaganda wheel keeps turning!
And hopefully not too many more lives will be lost during the time it takes to craft an ending to the situation that NATO finds palatable.
They MUST believe they are "the good guys" or they can't live in this world. Been going on for decades...
It's the theme of so many movies and cartoons. It's been drilled into people in so many ways.
It's been drilled into American for decades.
I have to believe they’re not . Its more propaganda & a shrinking group of true hateful believers in the gov narrative . Profiteers Those it directly Benefits ,dolts fools & Muslim haters .oh & those afraid of everything different ?
I wish so many I know personally didn't believe this stuff, but I know more who don't.
Why are Hamas terrorists? A: because they attacked Israel.
Why did Hamas attack Israel? A: because they are terrorists.
That of course is circular logic, but many think it a genuine argument and a winning one. They then go on to claim they are capable of critical thinking.
So many are swallowing them using the same mental/emotional/ideological mechanism you are using by claiming they are "lies" - they're just on the other side of the aisle, so to speak. We can infer that the Israeli Narrative is fishy and riddled with red flags, but do we have adequate evidence proving they are lies? Rather than claiming the Israeli Narrative is a pack of lies, I think it's better to insist on their supporters providing adequate evidence, and until they do, we reasonably withhold our support. The biggest red flag of all, of course, is the Western Mainstream (of which Israel is a part) pretending that there are no red flags. This was the same behavior I noticed with the 2020 US Election, and with the Covid Project.
There IS “adequate evidence “.
All one need do is look for it.
1. The claim that there is adequate evidence, isn't the same as the useful presence and/or provision of adequate evidence.
2. Suggesting I look for it is shifting the burden.
3. If you know the truth verified by this adequate evidence that you claim exists, surely you could have provided it. Or did you lose it behind the chaise lounge...?
H, I have read SO MUCH on the subject and witnessed SO MANY videos I couldn’t possibly give you links to them.
But I can suggest several websites from which to start:
Mondoweiss
Al Jazeera
If Americans Knew
Electronic Intifada
Consortium News
Also please see Scott Ritter and Chris Hedges. I can’t do all your homework for you.
It's a red flag when a person doesn't acknowledge the various problems of information about complex events and responds as though there is no problem other than me not doing my research.
Really? How so?
If I can garnish information, I assume you can as well, but I suppose you’re too lazy to do so. I already provided you with pertinent websites.
Or perhaps you don’t WANT the truth?
Shoo, fly.
Of course, the demolition of Gaza is absolutely not necessary. The nightly news lies. They lie all the time. The news is just one big, continuous psychological operation. "The news" is propaganda. It took me many years to understand and finally accept that but I accept that now.
I cut the cable after Russia gate and am so much smarter now!
Tucker's firing was the last straw for me.
I just got through watching Oliver Stone's 'Untold History of the United States' for the third time (there's so much to see, I learn something new each time I watch it). As horrible as what we did in the past, nothing was as bad and criminal as what we are complicit in now – and that's out and out murder...playing out in front of the entire world. It's outrageous.
The genocidal slaughter IS necessary, to:
- meet the agenda of of the Zionists who are in full control the U.S. government and deep state
- satisfy the bloodthirst of the Zionist oligarchs who own those political figures
- satisfy the greed of the military industry in the west and the financial industry that profits from it
Netanyahu's government is clearly seeking in Gaza the peace and quiet of a cemetery. In that, he has had the full backing of the Biden Administration as well as its Nato lackies.
The unknown factor is who breaks first -- Netanyahu's cabinet because the IDF casualties are too high, or Biden because the floor beneath him cracks as in an Arab government that the US relies on crumbles or Biden's polls tank further. More likely the latter will happen before the former.
For the moment all eyes are fixed on the battlefield where Israel seems to be losing. And how far Israel and Washington can drive the Palestinian civilian population into starvation and epidemics.
They wont stop this is all in the plan as you said cemetery is the peaceful goal they seek. Not sure Zionists or Israel realize This creation of theirs will now & forever be the Abomination that erases & replaces the unique horror of the Holocaust? The Zionazis erased their “ get out of jail free card” abused the favored status as victims This is a moment the Jews ( used yet again by the West MIIC )will mourn forever that the day the Zionists made the Holocaust old news by proudly upping the anti in broad daylight .Now hopefully 🙏 here comes the Zionazi Fall.
It is getting obvious by the day that the attack from Hamas has been fully used by Israel to create this abomination of destruction and massacre and to control a huge piece of Gaza. Israeli intelligence CANNOT have missed the plans of Hamas. It is a deliberate strategic choice, most probably known snd endorsed by US and UK intelligence and secret services. This is as obvious as 9.11, the most gigantic swindle of the century. Israel will no get away this time. The dementia of this destruction reveals to the world the true face of Zionism which is nothing but the flag of Israeli ruthless and delf destructive colonialism.
Just got back from a demo downtown and, as usual, there was no mainstream media there. The only way people know these demos are happening is by social media or email. The media is really on the wrong side of history for this.
Biden said that if unsinkable US air craft carrier Israel didn't exist it would have to be created. Putting up with and spinning a genocide is necessary because the US needs Israel in the region and mad Greater Israel pusher Netanyahu knows it.
The genocide in Gaza is a major unwanted and unexpected distraction for the US (and also scuppers planned normalisation between saudi and Israel as a counter to China's 'wave of reconciliation in the region)- and now no one will normalise with Israel), whose number one enemy is China. (They're cannibalising it's 'allies' in the EU, and impoverishing its own citizens, to shore up the US economy, which is so de-industrialised the arms industry is all it has left, so that it can stay ahead of China economically.)
But Biden cant' turn his back on the golden child of Israel; even though the wheels are coming off and it's going to bring the Empire down. China and Russia grow in humanity, diplomacy and a shared future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt5n12A6WNw