Those are 2 sides of the same coin. Their seeming opposition to each other is part of the (successful) disinformation of whoever is behind the project.
Yes, I love how their "seeming opposition" made Italian anarcho-communists faceplant Mussolini and made the Soviets steamroll Nazis aaaalll the way into Berlin...
You're assuming Hitler was a "fascist" (with the obvious corollary assumption that "fascist" is evil because the Communists & Jews say it is).
An interestingly curious question which you are apparently incapable of asking: Why would the Western Mainstream all these decades whitewash Lenin and Stalin's Communism while massively demonizing Hitler and Nazism? And why would supposedly anti-Establishment "socialists" like you be agreeing with the Evil Capitalist Western Mainstream on this matter?
There it is, all I needed to do was prod once, I expected a few more rounds of back-and-forth before the "Hitler wasn't really bad" loonie talk to come up.
But yes, I really love that Lenin biopic with Leo Dicaprio where he bangs every girl from Siberia to East Berlin... What about that Hollywood movie about how Stalin didn't really starve anybody on purpose? Or the "Black Book of Capitalism" where the author counts 200 quintillion dead because of Capitalism? That one's a doozy!
See? The Communist propaganda worked SO WELL, you don't even know what Communism means TODAY, more than a hundred years later after the October Revolution... :)
Seek professional help, if you can pay for it, of course, in the "communist" USA. ;)
It's not a show of good faith to infer the worst about your interlocutor. I didn't claim Hitler was not bad; but apparently in your mind to even raise the question is so VERBOTEN it automatically damns the questioner. I don't claim Hitler was good; what I do claim is that there are 4 fishy things about the Hitler Was Evil Narrative:
1) like the Oct 7. Hamas Narrative, it's not satisfied with making him simply bad (like a Napoleon) but must pull out all the stops of monstrous demonization
2) the source of the Narrative and its continued custodians for the past 80-odd years up to the present has been the Western Mainstream which, after the 2020 US Election and the Covid Shitshow, I can no longer trust on important matters
3) The Mainstream's obsession with Hitler all these decades as a non-negotiable evil is selective, with nowhere near the same degree of demonization for other leaders arguably as bad if not worse -- Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro -- indeed, oftentimes the Mainstream will wink at people who suggest support for any one or more of those Communist leaders (e.g., in a Zoom conference a couple of years ago amongst Mainstream journalists, one of them had a Mao portrait up on his wall behind him and nobody batted an eyelash, whereas if it was a Hitler portrait, his career would be DESTROYED -- AT BEST
4) which leads to the 4th factor: the radioactive toxicity of Hitler/Nazis/Questioning the Holocaust is so over the top, so maximally super-potent throughout society as the #1 THOUGHT CRIME OF ALL TIME FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER -- with its corollary, the Don't You Dare Sneeze at a Jew or You Must Be a Nazi Monster Too -- it should arouse reasonable suspicion among open-minded people who don't just swallow uncritically whatever the Mainstream tells them to think.
There are 2 Communisms -- one is a romantic fable that has seduced countless Useful Idiots (some otherwise quite intelligent). The other is some psychopathic movement to destroy Christianity and remake Mankind.
You are the very poster child of everything I said about Hollywood warping your perceptions of reality..you have red scare deep in your brain stem..what you don't see or understand is the mind control through ideology and indoctrination of mythology you succumbed to left vrs right paradigms of pick a team and fight. The woke crowd gets fed it and your side gets fed it. Plenty of democrats now believe in red scare too..
You are existential scared of comi sleeper cells hiding under your bed poised to steal the patriotic lint.
Hollywood used BOTH mindsets to make you pick a team and fight..and yet you are still sauntering up their slaughterhouse ramp arguing who is first to face the blades...your level of blind fear induced ignorance is the real problem with all you neocon useful idiots. Same as the neolibersl woke crowd and neither if you can see how you have been emotionally played like cheap violins.
It's not an even split 50/50. The side that minimizes the Red Scare enjoys the massive cultural & sociopolitical support of the entire Western Mainstream and has enjoyed that support since the 1940s. I was surprised to learn that in fact the Mainstream already in the 1950s was anti-McCarthy. Indeed, the Democrat who preceded him in the Congressional investigation committee to ferret out Communist saboteurs, Martin Dies, when he passed the HUAC baton onto Joe, warned him to watch his back, because already in the 1940s they had been attacking Dies for his efforts.
"Quite intelligent people understand something I do not, ergo they're actually useful idiots, because it's not possible I MUST BE THE ONE NOT UNDERSTANDING A SIMPLE CONCEPT..."
Oh wow, I hadn't gotten to the "destroy Christianity" part! You're really just a lunatic, nvm.
Btw: Christ was a proto-socialist. HE SAYS SO IN HIS BOOKS, READ THEM.
Jesus Christ didn't have any books, if by "his books" you mean books he wrote. However, there are the New Testament books which record & discuss his advent, ministry, and teachings. For example, pertinent to your claim,
Strawman. I never mentioned "capitalism". The romantic fable type Communism tries to concoct a bogey man Marx and his pal Engels called "Capital" but what they were really aiming at was the West itself (which Marx ostensibly reduced to economics).
1) Not taking a stand against Communism = enabling Communism.
2) Their reluctance to condemn Communism includes a myopia to Communist subversion as the #1 threat to the West
3) They probably think the West is evil through and through, from the beginning to now, essentially.
1+2+3 = I don't care what flavor they call themselves, they are enabling Communism.
Making Communism your enemy only gives it power. To my way of thinking, fascism is worse. And that's where we're headed.
Those are 2 sides of the same coin. Their seeming opposition to each other is part of the (successful) disinformation of whoever is behind the project.
"seeming oppostion" LOL Stalin did more than any western leader to win World War 2.
Yes, I love how their "seeming opposition" made Italian anarcho-communists faceplant Mussolini and made the Soviets steamroll Nazis aaaalll the way into Berlin...
You're assuming Hitler was a "fascist" (with the obvious corollary assumption that "fascist" is evil because the Communists & Jews say it is).
An interestingly curious question which you are apparently incapable of asking: Why would the Western Mainstream all these decades whitewash Lenin and Stalin's Communism while massively demonizing Hitler and Nazism? And why would supposedly anti-Establishment "socialists" like you be agreeing with the Evil Capitalist Western Mainstream on this matter?
There it is, all I needed to do was prod once, I expected a few more rounds of back-and-forth before the "Hitler wasn't really bad" loonie talk to come up.
But yes, I really love that Lenin biopic with Leo Dicaprio where he bangs every girl from Siberia to East Berlin... What about that Hollywood movie about how Stalin didn't really starve anybody on purpose? Or the "Black Book of Capitalism" where the author counts 200 quintillion dead because of Capitalism? That one's a doozy!
See? The Communist propaganda worked SO WELL, you don't even know what Communism means TODAY, more than a hundred years later after the October Revolution... :)
Seek professional help, if you can pay for it, of course, in the "communist" USA. ;)
It's not a show of good faith to infer the worst about your interlocutor. I didn't claim Hitler was not bad; but apparently in your mind to even raise the question is so VERBOTEN it automatically damns the questioner. I don't claim Hitler was good; what I do claim is that there are 4 fishy things about the Hitler Was Evil Narrative:
1) like the Oct 7. Hamas Narrative, it's not satisfied with making him simply bad (like a Napoleon) but must pull out all the stops of monstrous demonization
2) the source of the Narrative and its continued custodians for the past 80-odd years up to the present has been the Western Mainstream which, after the 2020 US Election and the Covid Shitshow, I can no longer trust on important matters
3) The Mainstream's obsession with Hitler all these decades as a non-negotiable evil is selective, with nowhere near the same degree of demonization for other leaders arguably as bad if not worse -- Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro -- indeed, oftentimes the Mainstream will wink at people who suggest support for any one or more of those Communist leaders (e.g., in a Zoom conference a couple of years ago amongst Mainstream journalists, one of them had a Mao portrait up on his wall behind him and nobody batted an eyelash, whereas if it was a Hitler portrait, his career would be DESTROYED -- AT BEST
4) which leads to the 4th factor: the radioactive toxicity of Hitler/Nazis/Questioning the Holocaust is so over the top, so maximally super-potent throughout society as the #1 THOUGHT CRIME OF ALL TIME FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER -- with its corollary, the Don't You Dare Sneeze at a Jew or You Must Be a Nazi Monster Too -- it should arouse reasonable suspicion among open-minded people who don't just swallow uncritically whatever the Mainstream tells them to think.
Totalitarianism certainly describes the coin, but more needs to be done to identify, dissect & diagnose the complex tangled phenomenon it reflects.
That's right. Buford T Justice gave it ample definition.
Had to Google, laughed my fricking ass off when I remembered who that was... Arigatô, Mr. Roboto!
There are 2 Communisms -- one is a romantic fable that has seduced countless Useful Idiots (some otherwise quite intelligent). The other is some psychopathic movement to destroy Christianity and remake Mankind.
You are the very poster child of everything I said about Hollywood warping your perceptions of reality..you have red scare deep in your brain stem..what you don't see or understand is the mind control through ideology and indoctrination of mythology you succumbed to left vrs right paradigms of pick a team and fight. The woke crowd gets fed it and your side gets fed it. Plenty of democrats now believe in red scare too..
You are existential scared of comi sleeper cells hiding under your bed poised to steal the patriotic lint.
Hollywood used BOTH mindsets to make you pick a team and fight..and yet you are still sauntering up their slaughterhouse ramp arguing who is first to face the blades...your level of blind fear induced ignorance is the real problem with all you neocon useful idiots. Same as the neolibersl woke crowd and neither if you can see how you have been emotionally played like cheap violins.
It's not an even split 50/50. The side that minimizes the Red Scare enjoys the massive cultural & sociopolitical support of the entire Western Mainstream and has enjoyed that support since the 1940s. I was surprised to learn that in fact the Mainstream already in the 1950s was anti-McCarthy. Indeed, the Democrat who preceded him in the Congressional investigation committee to ferret out Communist saboteurs, Martin Dies, when he passed the HUAC baton onto Joe, warned him to watch his back, because already in the 1940s they had been attacking Dies for his efforts.
"Quite intelligent people understand something I do not, ergo they're actually useful idiots, because it's not possible I MUST BE THE ONE NOT UNDERSTANDING A SIMPLE CONCEPT..."
Oh wow, I hadn't gotten to the "destroy Christianity" part! You're really just a lunatic, nvm.
Btw: Christ was a proto-socialist. HE SAYS SO IN HIS BOOKS, READ THEM.
Jesus Christ didn't have any books, if by "his books" you mean books he wrote. However, there are the New Testament books which record & discuss his advent, ministry, and teachings. For example, pertinent to your claim,
https://substack.com/profile/25949243-hesperado/note/c-45630248
Strawman. I never mentioned "capitalism". The romantic fable type Communism tries to concoct a bogey man Marx and his pal Engels called "Capital" but what they were really aiming at was the West itself (which Marx ostensibly reduced to economics).
This kind of argument can go on forever with a true believer -- much like trying to discuss theology with a Fundie Protestant.