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Vin LoPresti's avatar

"The genocide says . . .that all our vaunted morality and respect for human rights is a lie."

Chris Hedges, A Genocide Foretold, p. 59.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

for truth about Israel/Gaza see Hedges & Mate in NYC

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Nod Dranoel's avatar

and human life. The whole idea that life is precious? Is to me, is to Caitlin and many more here. The most precious thing we own. Our life. But they take it, with bombs, and injections and profit seeking. To those who live by inequality and self interest. Life is cheap and disposable.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

The problem with the USA's society that leads to its genocidal actions is that it has a great Constitution, as a democratic document, which its politicians -- of course under paid orders from their plutocratic overseers -- actually conform to occasionally. This convinces the masses that the US is still a democratic republic. While the rest of the time, US pols are essentially wiping their derrieres with the constitution, and their constituents of self-interest choose not to notice. The empire collapseth, and those of us who have been detesting it for a lifetime are not overly sad about it.

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Jessica Ann Sheetz-Nguyen's avatar

Great point!

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The Old Fart's avatar

Dear Doug,

I’m doing okay, my dear friend. I’ve returned to what remains of my home in western Gaza City. We are suffering from a severe shortage of food and peace of mind. It seems no one cares to stop this war, and they appear determined to carry out their plan of killing and displacing the people of Gaza.

Honestly, I can’t describe much of what’s happening. All I can say is that no aid is reaching Gaza. Everything Israeli media claims is pure lies. They are continuing to starve and kill us—every last one of us.

This time, I will try not to leave my home until my very last breath. After experiencing the pain of displacement and the humiliation of tent life, it’s hard to imagine going through that again. I don’t know what the future holds, but I wish someone would allow us to leave and move with dignity to any place that doesn’t carry the scent of death.

Of course, my old friend, you may speak about me and share my voice and story. They are all that will remain of me when I leave this cruel world—my words and my story.

Best wishes,

Nour

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Davina's avatar

My heart breaks each day as this disgusting horror continues. It amazes me that you have such strength while these Zionist Jews care only for making themselves the victims, always while they cause death and destruction. Hold fast, Nour--that is the MacLeod motto, it should also be yours.

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Patricia Blair's avatar

“ The Israel Defense Force has killed thousands of children and babies in the Gaza Strip: whether As a hobby, or purposefully, as a profession, or whether intentionally or by mistake, the IDF is an army responsible for the mass killing of children, women, and the elderly, and no one in the world can deny this.” Gideon Levy, Haaretz

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Israel is a Terrorist State supported by War Criminals.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

All they ever do is lie. Why does anyone believe anything coming out of Israel or Trump?

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Eddie's avatar

In a sane world, neither of those "men" (and I use term very loosely) would be anywhere near public service. Sadly, they have mastered the art of hypnotizing voters.

I do put some responsibility on the voters, especially here in the U.S., because they need to pull their heads out of their behinds.

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Freepie's avatar

Because it was better under Biden's rule? Not according to the former Israeli ambassador.

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Eddie's avatar
17mEdited

Absolutely not. The current genocide started under Biden's presidency and he enabled it every step of the way.

Please do not assume that when I criticize Trump that I'm a Democratic voter. I detest both parties.

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michael janket's avatar

Oh, what a glorious morning! And, what a beautiful genocide we have going full tilt. Couple that beautiful genocide with beautiful vaccines and you have Nirvana. Thanks to Donnie, the world is soooooo beautiful.

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Nod Dranoel's avatar

Isn't just the orange man.

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Kay Kay's avatar

Nine kids killed and their tattered, burnt bodies received by the mother....Just Imagine

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Simon Warriner's avatar

Yes, just imagine. Just imagine the orgy of media torment if they were "jewish" little snakes. The hypocrisy in the western presstitute media is beyond the pale.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

Unwanted puppies in the USA probably have a better survival rate than Palestinian children in Gaza. Reading this I stop and wonder how anyone viewing this horror story wouldn't be left in shock by the callousness on full dispay by the NeoNazis. The irony of it all is that the (they) are Zionists mostly of whom are of European descent but are convinced they are the ones being persecuted. Make it make sense!

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gypsy33's avatar
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Hi Kathleen

Ain’t no making sense of it. The Zionazi narrative has corrupted the West, and there are those bought and paid for congresswhores who are in need of short ropes and tall trees.

I’ve said this before; if the Ziopaths were specifically targeting puppies and kittens, they’d no longer exist.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

I heard Israel is the only Democracy Nazi Nation in the Middle East (brought to you by Zio America).

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Cancel Israel. In the one State Palestine Jews and Palestinians and others can live in peace.

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jill chambers's avatar

as they did before 1948 and the influx of balfour's 'solution'

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Jessica Ann Sheetz-Nguyen's avatar

I cannot click like... I want to click my heart is breaking for her.

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Mary's avatar

'it's a bit bomby and faminy in Gaza today'.

Caitlin, throughout this darkness your beautiful, clever and witty writing, that you manage despite it all, is sometimes the only thing that puts a smile on my face.

I just wish it could have the consequences it deserves!

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Erwin Warth's avatar

The Zionists have well and truly overplayed that they are the victims. The facad is crumbling. Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for them and that they experience the full karma.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

The only karma occurring now is to the Gazans whose society f*cked around 10.7.23 and are now in the find out phase, being on the losing side of a siege. They decided to start a hot war against an opponent that could literally withhold their biological necessities, and so, Gazan's level of stupidity is unmatched. Israel is doing everyone a favor by their karmic reaction.

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ikester8's avatar

You, sir, are a troll and a garbage human being. Delete your throwaway account. Touch grass. Consider that what happens to Gazans today, can happen to your and your family tomorrow if a powerful group decides to get uppity. And I won't be entertaining any responses to this, since that's all you want.

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

How easily your conscience is soothed. An entire population is being erased.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

It's correct to erase an enemy population that refuses surrender, as an example of why surrender is important. Normalizing resistance was the dumbest thing internationalist ever did.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

If your nextdoor neighbor started a war with a group of people on the next block would you get blaned for that also? Think about it for a hot minute.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

If I provided economic, logistic and familial aid to my next door neighbor in their war, then yes I would, as are the Gazan people correctly being targeted.

What a weak basis of argument you make,.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.

This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.

Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.

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Spunty's avatar

You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?

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john smith's avatar

"It's Not a War When Only One Side Has an Army" said the protest sign.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Nethu himself provided funding to Hamas.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

Sure, he giveth and he taketh away (all the food.)

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.

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gypsy33's avatar

Go suck Satanyahoo’s shriveled old cock, motherfucker, right after he’s fucked you in the ass. Mmm, tasty.

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martin's avatar

gazans (nor hamas) were stupid. they expected that israel would negotiate. they expected that the western world, espousing high moral values, would intervene. the belligerent 'i'm a 1000 pound grizzly or a live electric socket' argument is a dead end, lest one wants to be banned from the simian flock.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

Arguments are a dead end, yes. Anti-Zionists have a phrase for when they can't maintain the illusion that an argument or "international law" or a moral opinion has anything to do with real consequences: facts on the ground.

Facts on the ground that Israel CAN unilaterally impose, like mass starvation or zero reconstruction are the cost of the lies of the anti-Zionists.

Basically the West can impose some pain on Israel (because sanctions evasions is trivial post-globalization and sanctions don't apply to intellectual property) but Israel can impose biologically incompatible conditions on their enemy.

When the world gets around to realizing that one side has won and negotiates things on Israel's terms, then we will be able to move forwards. Until then there will just be more crying about the facts on the ground.

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Susan T's avatar

Geez. Throwaway, you are one sick person. I hope you can find some treatment.

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michael janket's avatar

Aren't you the voice of sunshine?

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David D's avatar

So is Israel. They will rape and sodemise themselves to death if the resistance don’t put the scum out of their misery first.

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Susan T's avatar

Israelis are living on stolen land. They are thieves and murderers. I don't feel safe with them in the world. What does that make them? Anti human?

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Mikhael's avatar

"I don't feel safe with them in the world." I feel the same way. I fear for humanity of what these people will do.

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Leah Gunn Barrett's avatar

They are demonic.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Fascists is what you get when the selfish, bigoted and entitled see themselves in the mirror.

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gypsy33's avatar

It makes them the vampires that they are, Susan.

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Athena Jones's avatar

If it were all about Hamas, which is in Gaza, then Israel would not be murdering, raping, torturing, imprisoning, destroying throughout all of Occupied Palestine, i.e. the bit they call the West Bank where Hamas is not active.

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Jeck's avatar

The crackdown on protesters in the US is very disturbing, and, because it is all about silencing criticism, it illuminates clearly who the true evil oppressor is.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Hamas already agreed to a teuce,which Israel and its American sponsor broke as soon as convenient.

Anyway, that's like blaming the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising for not having surrendered.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

Muslim's lie in war so readily they have a word for it: Hudna. Lying to Muslims to cheat them in war is simply common sense. The only way to deal with them is with force and deceit.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Zionists have a word for their deeply layered propaganda: Hasbara

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

Lying to an enemy is part of war. Never let morality get in the way of winning. At the end of the day nothing is worse than losing sovereignty, so if you have the dominant position, use every means necessary to win. If not, surrender.

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Spunty's avatar

I know I'm feeding the troll, but this is not a war. It is apartheid genocide.

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

More utter tripe from anti-zionists. Apartheid genocide is not a thing: Apartheid literally means living separately. Genocide means the destruction of a population.

If a population is genocided it's not present to live separately.

Also, Israel unlike South Africa's NNP party has no need for the Egyptian/Jordanian squatters, so they don't need apartheid as South Africa did. As for it not being a war, it's really irrelevant that you don't want to call it a war: wars can be very very one sided, as this one is, just ordinarily the losing side is smart enough to surrender. That the Arab squatters aren't smart enough is the squatter's fault and problem, not Israel's.

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Tom High's avatar

More utter tripe from a genocide cheerleader.

Go fuck yourself, lickspittle simp.

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JennyStokes's avatar

"Never let morality get in the way of winning." Well throwaway I certainly do hope you get picked up throwaway with the garbage.

Without MORALITY we are nothing!

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

You obviously have not even recognised that Palestinean children are the most victimized of all of the persons living almost anywhere in the world. They have been shot in the head, blown up, starved, and nailed to walls and you don't even care. To you its a preventative measure to make sure they never have a home, a bed, toys, comfort, food, or a life of even the poorest of U.S. children or most of all freedom to exist as a human worthy of recognition as human. They are the expendable in you eyes. I can only say be careful of your desires as what you seek to set up as normal could easily be that which is turned back onto yourself. Its happened to others in the past. I see no hope of redemption for your soul. You are a symbol of the lost. Everything you touch will be tainted. You must be a part of the religous Reich who's beliefs only glorify the dollars (shekels) in your pockets. Money comes and money goes but a persons soul is never a monetary transaction. The day will come when this country shifts and you will be one of those people living the life of a child of Gaza. Nowhere to lay your head. I doubt anyone will see or hear you pleas either.

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Richard Parker's avatar

It's interesting how it now all become "Trump's" plan, when it has been the Zionist plan for many decades.

It's given Trump partial ownership and an active participant, in the genocide, and Netenyahu is able to deflect criticism away to Washington.

And what could we really expect if Hamas surrenders, walks out of the ruins, drops their weapons and puts up their hands? I think we all know exactly how it would transpire. They'd be lined up and summarily executed.

Then the Zionists would systematically kill the women and children.

The collective west would utter words of shock and horror, whilst secretly being relieved that Palestine no longer exists and we can "get over it".

Only that would not be the end.

Israel would continue the killing on other fronts. It's a land full of hatred, racism and paranoia.

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Cecilia Donovan's avatar

If Hamas surrenders they would not be executed by a firing squad as the leaders of the Irish uprising in 1916 were. They would be tortured to death in the worst possible way,

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Throwaway58423196's avatar

Don't threaten Israelis with a good time.

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gypsy33's avatar

Your name says it all.

Back into the dumpster with ya, shithead.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"There is no way to permanently remove all Palestinians from a Palestinian territory without material coercion — meaning more mass scale violence and siege warfare."

Here is a suggestion Caitlin -> Since the U.S. Empire (and its Zionist supporters) like Israelis SO MUCH, why not MOVE EVERY SINGLE ZIONIST ISRAELI OUT OF PALESTINE and into America? (I'd really like to see how many American Zionist Jews and Christian Zionists would be willing to accept Israelis into THEIR COMMUNITIES - now that the WHOLE WORLD knows how psychopathic and sociopathic Israelis are).

And there should be a new law to go along with this FORCED DISPLACEMENT of Israeli Zionists to the U.S. -> They are only allowed to settle into those communities AFTER the communities get to VOTE on whether they would accept them or not. Of course, a lot more laws will need to be created to control this 'Israeli Zionist' population in the U.S. - but that's a problem for another day.

Wouldn't this solve MOST of the problems (other than the VACUUM of U.S. power created in the MENA region) for this 100+ year settler-colonial project?

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SW's avatar

When Trump was announcing his plan to depopulate Gaza and move them (loosely quoting) “to a beautiful city where everyone will be safe” I thought — if it’s so big and so beautiful how about the Zionists go there instead? No more worries about Hamas.

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Chang

Your suggestion about moving out the Israelis to the USA has great merit. Full marks.

However, not a lot of imagination required to anticipate how such a move would be regarded by the average decent American.

Make this suggestion to Miriam Adelson. She would certainly contribute to the cost of travel.............and so would I.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I think my motivation behind the reasoning of 'moving Zionist Israelis to the U.S.' is the following ->

(1) There are many similarities in culture of these two societies - i.e. settler-colonialism, genocide, apartheid, and more.

(2) I suspect that Israeli Zionists will add fuel to the 'process of destruction/dismantling' of the U.S. Empire - which is something that I believe will be GOOD for the whole world (including Americans that don't yet realize this).

(3) It seems unlikely that the U.S. Empire can be subdued by external forces. On the basis of that, one can only hope (and there might actually be a high probability for this) that these Israeli Zionists (along with the other Zionists in America) will destroy the EMPIRE from within.

I'm open to better (more feasible?) suggestions...

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Contrarian 33's avatar

I knew there would be a serious reason for your suggestion.

Yes, I agree. The destruction of the country that the USA has become must come from the people. Must come from inside and not outside. Therefore, because of the time required for such changes, it will not be in my lifetime.

To come from outside would also mean a military solution, the destruction of half the planet, one way or another.

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Lowell Googins's avatar

The more I read about how entrenched Zionists are in the US I firmly believe that if they chose to they could destroy the country. It sounds far fetched only if you are unaware how rooted they are in all the powerful positions. Most people understand that Zionists control the government to a large degree and that alone has potential for destruction. But business, banking, tech and if you do not know check out how many dual citizenship Israelis, and or Jews were involved with the Covid fiasco. From the CDC to Pfizer. Absolutely mind boggling. I wondered how Pfizer could lose a 2.1 billion dollar lawsuit for unethical and dangerous practices but be at the head of line for Covid MRNA therapy. I researched around and found out. RAFO

The question for me is are there Americans in the so called intelligence sector that are allowing this takeover? Are they working for some entity larger than the US or even the western nations combined? Even to write this sounds a bit crazy but facts are available and compelling.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

The U.S. behavior (i.e. 100% full-throated support of Israel) is not really complex to understand (though it was for me when my awareness of history, geopolitics and capitalism was less). And Jews or Judaism are not the motivation/affinity behind the U.S. Empire's actions. At the end of the day, I would attribute the support for Israel/Zionism to 2 different groups ->

[A] Christian Zionists and other Zionists that actually believe in the bullshit 'second coming of God' narratives about Israel.

[B] TPTB (The Powers That Be) -> This group is not really concerned about religions or Jews. For them, it is more about global hegemony, profits, control over resources, keeping others exploitated so as to stay on top of the 'class hierarchy', etc. - basically what a (normal) ruthless Capitalist would do.

Hence, I'm not convinced by ANY of these 'Zionists/Jews in positions of power' narratives as being behind everything. One simple way to understand this is to look at ALL the billionaires, oligarchs, corporations, etc. that are NOT Jews or Zionists - they support Israel (and Zionists) as much as Israelis and Zionists. The reality is that THEIR (TPTB) INTERESTS ALIGN well with those of the Israelis/Zionists, hence they have the same goals. I am not a believer of 'Zionists/Jews control the world' narratives - such narratives are too simplistic for our complex world - and upon deeper examination (which few bother to do), the logic of such narratives falls apart.

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Lowell Googins's avatar

I may not have made myself clear. I do not believe Zionists control the world or do I have the least bit antisemitic bias. However their control in the US is not a question.

Let me ask you a couple questions: Do you believe there is a group that is manipulating world events? A powerful entity and the Zionists are merely tools like all other actors. Or is it an evil free for all? Kind of like the question about intelligent design of the cosmos.

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Mikhael's avatar

We already have an occupied government. It's just seems obvious at this point.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

Stuff nightmares are made of.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I'm sorry, but the article is quite logically (and historically) flawed - it would take a whole another article to detail the errors, bias, and real anti-semitism/Jew-hatred in it - it even makes use of 'The Protocol of the Elders

of Zion' to bolster its arguments.

I doubt the author of that article is able to make the distinctions between Jews, Judaism, Zionism. The other huge flaw in the article is that the author does not seem to understand the role CAPITALISM plays in the unfolding of events and the geostrategic motivations involved, not to mention how the global financial system works and how it is used in the context of Israel/Palestine (like I said, it will take a whole another article to list the errors...)

The article you mention is the 'precise' kind of shit/low-quality/neo-Nazi crap floating around on Substack.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Make Palestine Again. Stop the Genocide/Holocaust Now.

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Cecilia Donovan's avatar

Brilliant idea! Many (most?) Israelis have dual or triple nationality, so it would be much easier to relocate them back to their other country. Those not having a second nationality could be relocated to the country where their ancestors are buried.

Problem solved.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Chang,, there’s already an “IsraHell” in Amerikkka; it’s called Noo Yawk Shitty.

Move ‘em there and cut that shithole loose.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

I'm in agreement with you. Lets all vote on this ASAP! Maybe tomorro! We all have phones. Should be relatively easy process.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I vote for them (Israeli Zionists - maybe even American Zionists) to be enclosed in tightly-controlled bantustans. There is a thriving PIC (Prison Industrial Complex) in the U.S. - maybe they can manage/control these Zionists (which I believe are a much higher danger/threat to society than the current occupants of these prisons).

Hell, maybe we can even get Zionists to exploit fellow Zionists - they seem to be psychopathically and sociopathically primed to exploit their own.

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SW's avatar

This video of the young woman hysterically saying she feels threatened is right in line with the “speech is violence” nonsense used to close down any disagreement. Only validation of her irrational “fear” will be acceptable to this drama queen. The people trapped in inner city ghettos have a real reason to be afraid and I doubt that’s where she lives.

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The Old Fart's avatar

A letter from a dear friend in Gaza:

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