and human life. The whole idea that life is precious? Is to me, is to Caitlin and many more here. The most precious thing we own. Our life. But they take it, with bombs, and injections and profit seeking. To those who live by inequality and self interest? Life is cheap and disposable.
The problem with the USA's society that leads to its genocidal actions is that it has a great Constitution, as a democratic document, which its politicians -- of course under paid orders from their plutocratic overseers -- actually conform to occasionally. This convinces the masses that the US is still a democratic republic. While the rest of the time, US pols are essentially wiping their derrieres with the constitution, and their constituents of self-interest choose not to notice. The empire collapseth, and those of us who have been detesting it for a lifetime are not overly sad about it.
The US government is, by design, a republic. The framers feared democracy, so they established a government in which white, wealthy, male landowners above the age of majority could "democratically" choose their small "r" republican representatives. That cohort of voters was comprised of approximately 3% of the US population that were not Native Americans who had zero consideration.
Indeed, slaves were property — capital assets with “book” values on the balance sheets.
Employees have no book values and can be discarded at the convenience of their employers with no loss on the balance sheets.
The “Founders” knew what they were doing — for their own benefit and for that of their sons, grandsons, etc. I don’t know what their wives thought about that.
we are still slaves, most just don't know it. They call it modern banking.
But it is lifelong debt to banker scum who create money out of thin air, and tack on usury, and an inflation tax. And tell us we need to be debtor slaves until we pay it back. In case anyone missed it, most people NEVER get out of debt. Slaves
I litigated for years, defending debtors against bankers. Worst thing about the process, is watching the people who did not get screwed by debt (yet) hating on the debtors just like the judges did. "Deadbeat debtors"
people are generally stupefied by beliefs systems.
True enough. No one's saying it wasn't an imperfect document or that 20 million Native people didn't die in a settler colonial genocide.. I'm just commenting on the "choice" by current pols to abide by the key document of my concern and should've specified "Bill of Rights -- being the pages they choose or not -- to wipe their arses with.
The pols are like the “cafeteria Catholics” who pick and choose which doctrines and edicts to follow vs. which ones to ignore.
I didn’t coin the term of “cafeteria Catholics”. That “cafeteria” concept exists within many organized religions and within the policies and procedures of many secular organizations.
Yes, I've heard it before. It's an apt descriptor, and it just evoked a memory in my old mind that I hadn't imaged in maybe decades. A particular chain of cafeterias in 1950's NYC. That's the human brain for you. Hopelessly unpredictable.
Can't disagree with that, Jenny. The Caucasian-DNA mob of humanity has certainly delivered a cataclysm of horror to both the planet and its "other" inhabitants over history. But personally, I think the genus Homo has outlived its evolutionary lifespan, especially when I look at images of Elon Musk scowling at S. Africa's president. If this is preeminent Homo, we are surely lost.
seriously ? nothing to do with color ffs. Everything to do with inequality and who controls is. White, black , yellow, green, makes no difference. Want to fix it, end the obscene in equality instead of apologizing for it.
Thanks. So do I. Chris has the unique ability from his experience as a war journalist to bring out the stories of individuals in their own words, in this case, Palestinians, living and dead, many friends or acquaintances of his. It makes it more personal, more chilling, really. I can only absorb a few pages at a time.
I’m doing okay, my dear friend. I’ve returned to what remains of my home in western Gaza City. We are suffering from a severe shortage of food and peace of mind. It seems no one cares to stop this war, and they appear determined to carry out their plan of killing and displacing the people of Gaza.
Honestly, I can’t describe much of what’s happening. All I can say is that no aid is reaching Gaza. Everything Israeli media claims is pure lies. They are continuing to starve and kill us—every last one of us.
This time, I will try not to leave my home until my very last breath. After experiencing the pain of displacement and the humiliation of tent life, it’s hard to imagine going through that again. I don’t know what the future holds, but I wish someone would allow us to leave and move with dignity to any place that doesn’t carry the scent of death.
Of course, my old friend, you may speak about me and share my voice and story. They are all that will remain of me when I leave this cruel world—my words and my story.
My heart breaks each day as this disgusting horror continues. It amazes me that you have such strength while these Zionist Jews care only for making themselves the victims, always while they cause death and destruction. Hold fast, Nour--that is the MacLeod motto, it should also be yours.
Please refer to Zionists without calling them Jews. There are plenty of Zionists who are not Jews--just look at the White House under either Repugs or Dems. I happen to be a secular Jew, and I am NOT a Zionist. I am in tears over the physician in Gaza who just lost most of her kids to Israeli bombs, with her husband and one child hanging onto life in the ICU. And such tragedies have been going on for 19 months and only Yemen stands up for Palestine.
Then you have to get Zionists to stop telling us they are Jews and that Israel is a "Jewish" state. Who were the men wearing the yarmulke or kippah attacking Muslims? Or the soldiers in the IOF are none of them Jews? Do all the settlers attacking food trucks have not one Jew amongst them? Then there are the Jews in the knesset that are responsible for the orders to kill all Gazans sitting there proudly wearing the yarmulke, are they not zionist Jews, especially the ones with the payot?
It's hard to face but it is what the world is seeing and no denying it will make it so.
“ The Israel Defense Force has killed thousands of children and babies in the Gaza Strip: whether As a hobby, or purposefully, as a profession, or whether intentionally or by mistake, the IDF is an army responsible for the mass killing of children, women, and the elderly, and no one in the world can deny this.” Gideon Levy, Haaretz
Israel is supporting ISIS gangs to steal whatever food gets into Gaza. Their military just watches them do it and they kill Gaza cops who try to prevent it.
But of course Israel has the most moral military evah.
In a sane world, neither of those "men" (and I use term very loosely) would be anywhere near public service. Sadly, they have mastered the art of hypnotizing voters.
I do put some responsibility on the voters, especially here in the U.S., because they need to pull their heads out of their behinds.
Eddie I thinknthere are plenty of us in our homes here thinking the same thing you are. We just came to the conclusion a little bit earlier. Both parties only offer us what they are willing to let us have. (Old geezers) Now don't get me wrong I'm 73 almost 74 so no spring chicken but even I know we are all being pitted against each I ther. We're giing after the wrong people. Being devided is only causjng us all more pain and letting the asshats in D.C. get away with fleecing all us sheeple. Two wings of the same turkey.
Agreed. I don't like to think of myself as an Accelerationist however, nothing it seems will change until long past what I thought was the bottom. Bernie Sanders or Genocide Bernie failed us at the last hope for change with less pain. " Joe Biden would make a great President" South Carolina debate, yep he did : ( 4,800$ over two elections : (
Oh, what a glorious morning! And, what a beautiful genocide we have going full tilt. Couple that beautiful genocide with beautiful vaccines and you have Nirvana. Thanks to Donnie, the world is soooooo beautiful.
Caitlin, throughout this darkness your beautiful, clever and witty writing, that you manage despite it all, is sometimes the only thing that puts a smile on my face.
I just wish it could have the consequences it deserves!
Yes, just imagine. Just imagine the orgy of media torment if they were "jewish" little snakes. The hypocrisy in the western presstitute media is beyond the pale.
Unwanted puppies in the USA probably have a better survival rate than Palestinian children in Gaza. Reading this I stop and wonder how anyone viewing this horror story wouldn't be left in shock by the callousness on full dispay by the NeoNazis. The irony of it all is that the (they) are Zionists mostly of whom are of European descent but are convinced they are the ones being persecuted. Make it make sense!
Ain’t no making sense of it. The Zionazi narrative has corrupted the West, and there are those bought and paid for congresswhores who are in need of short ropes and tall trees.
I’ve said this before; if the Ziopaths were specifically targeting puppies and kittens, they’d no longer exist.
I love the videos of the Jews from that ancient community of Jerusalem saying: "this place is called Palestine, and we lived here in peace before there was an Israel". And then the Zionist thugs, Jews, their own countrymen beat them up. It is so revealing!
The Zionists have well and truly overplayed that they are the victims. The facad is crumbling. Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for them and that they experience the full karma.
The only karma occurring now is to the Gazans whose society f*cked around 10.7.23 and are now in the find out phase, being on the losing side of a siege. They decided to start a hot war against an opponent that could literally withhold their biological necessities, and so, Gazan's level of stupidity is unmatched. Israel is doing everyone a favor by their karmic reaction.
You, sir, are a troll and a garbage human being. Delete your throwaway account. Touch grass. Consider that what happens to Gazans today, can happen to your and your family tomorrow if a powerful group decides to get uppity. And I won't be entertaining any responses to this, since that's all you want.
‘Throwaway’…you’re a soulless freak. How anyone can take pleasure in the abject cruelty of the IDF’s actions in Gaza is beyond comprehension. You do realise how much Israel is despised the world over don’t you? By millions and millions of non-arabs like me - they’re fucking hated with a passion. Just let that sink in for a while…
It's correct to erase an enemy population that refuses surrender, as an example of why surrender is important. Normalizing resistance was the dumbest thing internationalist ever did.
Palestinians were living in an open air concentration camp. And please explain why Israel is destroying the West Bank and killing civilians even though there is no Hamas there. Kinda exposes your lies.
Israel's issue is with those who are enemies to the Zionist state and Israeli sovereignty. So the whole of the popular resistance, not just the militants (the entire "Palestinian" population of Egyptian/Jordanian squatters)
Then Israel has a real problem - because enemies of the Zionist state are all over the world, not just in Gaza, Egypt or Iran. You’re fucking despised by millions all over the globe..
If I provided economic, logistic and familial aid to my next door neighbor in their war, then yes I would, as are the Gazan people correctly being targeted.
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.
This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.
Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.
You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?
How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.
If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
Palestineans are trapped between Hamas and Zionism. Either way they will suffer tremenously and also watch their children suffer. Its a no win situation. Only Zionists could fix this and they're too hate filled to even try.
gazans (nor hamas) were stupid. they expected that israel would negotiate. they expected that the western world, espousing high moral values, would intervene. the belligerent 'i'm a 1000 pound grizzly or a live electric socket' argument is a dead end, lest one wants to be banned from the simian flock.
Arguments are a dead end, yes. Anti-Zionists have a phrase for when they can't maintain the illusion that an argument or "international law" or a moral opinion has anything to do with real consequences: facts on the ground.
Facts on the ground that Israel CAN unilaterally impose, like mass starvation or zero reconstruction are the cost of the lies of the anti-Zionists.
Basically the West can impose some pain on Israel (because sanctions evasions is trivial post-globalization and sanctions don't apply to intellectual property) but Israel can impose biologically incompatible conditions on their enemy.
When the world gets around to realizing that one side has won and negotiates things on Israel's terms, then we will be able to move forwards. Until then there will just be more crying about the facts on the ground.
i'm a bit confused by the use of 'anti-zionists' in the first two sentences. israel can indeed impose mass starvation (it does) or zero reconstruction (like russia could have nuked ukraine).
i somewhat disagree with sanction evasion being trivial in all circumstances (russia vs north korea, cuba, venezuela, apartheid south africa, ...).
despite the general narrative control, i estimate that people still can understand the difference between one set of 'facts on the ground' and another. i don't think the world 'realizes' who has 'won', but kinda decides.
Out of all of your sanctions examples, only one case has actually changed a major matter of sovereignty: south africa. I'm sure you think that sanctions were the "silver bullet" there, but this was a major point of discussion I had in college history. What are the historical precedents for sovereign collapse. Economics, internal or external are actually minor factors, because sovereign nations have significant elasticity in tolerating changing economic conditions.
There were two factors that South Africa had to deal with that had nothing to do with sanctions that pushed them over the edge: reliance on the people they were fighting and a sovereign shock with the loss of south west africa. The ending of the cold war was resolved without their major input and they lost a large piece of territory that was structurally part of their sovereignty and the loss of this had very large ripple effects.
Gaza is actually facing collapse over these conditions rather than Israel: reliance upon Israel for biological survival when that support has now been withdrawn and the shock of losing ~50% of the territory held before the war.
It won't be any surprise when the remaining governing structures in Gaza unravel. There are many parallels of this in history.
As far as Israel goes and sanctions... they were sanctioned (actually embargoed) by a major trade partner (Turkey) and it had minor if any impact. Even if Europe did sanction, then globalization means outputs and inputs can be switched in a matter of days rather than months as it was during the fall of the NNP.
sanctions evasion is not trivial in all circumstances. gazan governing structures can easily be rebuild (unlike israeli). the reliance upon israel was not a matter of choice and losing 50% of the territory of an open air prison might not be as big as a shock as was namibia for the south africans. gazans kinda live on the old adage 'freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose'. israel and the west have no freedom. globalization and sanctions still can work both ways.
If it were all about Hamas, which is in Gaza, then Israel would not be murdering, raping, torturing, imprisoning, destroying throughout all of Occupied Palestine, i.e. the bit they call the West Bank where Hamas is not active.
The crackdown on protesters in the US is very disturbing, and, because it is all about silencing criticism, it illuminates clearly who the true evil oppressor is.
Muslim's lie in war so readily they have a word for it: Hudna. Lying to Muslims to cheat them in war is simply common sense. The only way to deal with them is with force and deceit.
Lying to an enemy is part of war. Never let morality get in the way of winning. At the end of the day nothing is worse than losing sovereignty, so if you have the dominant position, use every means necessary to win. If not, surrender.
More utter tripe from anti-zionists. Apartheid genocide is not a thing: Apartheid literally means living separately. Genocide means the destruction of a population.
If a population is genocided it's not present to live separately.
Also, Israel unlike South Africa's NNP party has no need for the Egyptian/Jordanian squatters, so they don't need apartheid as South Africa did. As for it not being a war, it's really irrelevant that you don't want to call it a war: wars can be very very one sided, as this one is, just ordinarily the losing side is smart enough to surrender. That the Arab squatters aren't smart enough is the squatter's fault and problem, not Israel's.
You obviously have not even recognised that Palestinean children are the most victimized of all of the persons living almost anywhere in the world. They have been shot in the head, blown up, starved, and nailed to walls and you don't even care. To you its a preventative measure to make sure they never have a home, a bed, toys, comfort, food, or a life of even the poorest of U.S. children or most of all freedom to exist as a human worthy of recognition as human. They are the expendable in you eyes. I can only say be careful of your desires as what you seek to set up as normal could easily be that which is turned back onto yourself. Its happened to others in the past. I see no hope of redemption for your soul. You are a symbol of the lost. Everything you touch will be tainted. You must be a part of the religous Reich who's beliefs only glorify the dollars (shekels) in your pockets. Money comes and money goes but a persons soul is never a monetary transaction. The day will come when this country shifts and you will be one of those people living the life of a child of Gaza. Nowhere to lay your head. I doubt anyone will see or hear you pleas either.
They can surrender and leave Eretz Yisrael if they don't like the conditions. You can't stand the idea that Israel wins unconditionally so much that you'd rather see them stay in place and suffer unimaginably than pressure others to give them a place to go.
I'm not religious at all, by the way.
Also fiat currency and the economy are not going anywhere (lol -except Gaza.)
It's interesting how it now all become "Trump's" plan, when it has been the Zionist plan for many decades.
It's given Trump partial ownership and an active participant, in the genocide, and Netenyahu is able to deflect criticism away to Washington.
And what could we really expect if Hamas surrenders, walks out of the ruins, drops their weapons and puts up their hands? I think we all know exactly how it would transpire. They'd be lined up and summarily executed.
Then the Zionists would systematically kill the women and children.
The collective west would utter words of shock and horror, whilst secretly being relieved that Palestine no longer exists and we can "get over it".
Only that would not be the end.
Israel would continue the killing on other fronts. It's a land full of hatred, racism and paranoia.
If Hamas surrenders they would not be executed by a firing squad as the leaders of the Irish uprising in 1916 were. They would be tortured to death in the worst possible way,
CJ>>"There is no way to permanently remove all Palestinians from a Palestinian territory without material coercion — meaning more mass scale violence and siege warfare."
Here is a suggestion Caitlin -> Since the U.S. Empire (and its Zionist supporters) like Israelis SO MUCH, why not MOVE EVERY SINGLE ZIONIST ISRAELI OUT OF PALESTINE and into America? (I'd really like to see how many American Zionist Jews and Christian Zionists would be willing to accept Israelis into THEIR COMMUNITIES - now that the WHOLE WORLD knows how psychopathic and sociopathic Israelis are).
And there should be a new law to go along with this FORCED DISPLACEMENT of Israeli Zionists to the U.S. -> They are only allowed to settle into those communities AFTER the communities get to VOTE on whether they would accept them or not. Of course, a lot more laws will need to be created to control this 'Israeli Zionist' population in the U.S. - but that's a problem for another day.
Wouldn't this solve MOST of the problems (other than the VACUUM of U.S. power created in the MENA region) for this 100+ year settler-colonial project?
When Trump was announcing his plan to depopulate Gaza and move them (loosely quoting) “to a beautiful city where everyone will be safe” I thought — if it’s so big and so beautiful how about the Zionists go there instead? No more worries about Hamas.
I think my motivation behind the reasoning of 'moving Zionist Israelis to the U.S.' is the following ->
(1) There are many similarities in culture of these two societies - i.e. settler-colonialism, genocide, apartheid, and more.
(2) I suspect that Israeli Zionists will add fuel to the 'process of destruction/dismantling' of the U.S. Empire - which is something that I believe will be GOOD for the whole world (including Americans that don't yet realize this).
(3) It seems unlikely that the U.S. Empire can be subdued by external forces. On the basis of that, one can only hope (and there might actually be a high probability for this) that these Israeli Zionists (along with the other Zionists in America) will destroy the EMPIRE from within.
I'm open to better (more feasible?) suggestions...
I knew there would be a serious reason for your suggestion.
Yes, I agree. The destruction of the country that the USA has become must come from the people. Must come from inside and not outside. Therefore, because of the time required for such changes, it will not be in my lifetime.
To come from outside would also mean a military solution, the destruction of half the planet, one way or another.
The more I read about how entrenched Zionists are in the US I firmly believe that if they chose to they could destroy the country. It sounds far fetched only if you are unaware how rooted they are in all the powerful positions. Most people understand that Zionists control the government to a large degree and that alone has potential for destruction. But business, banking, tech and if you do not know check out how many dual citizenship Israelis, and or Jews were involved with the Covid fiasco. From the CDC to Pfizer. Absolutely mind boggling. I wondered how Pfizer could lose a 2.1 billion dollar lawsuit for unethical and dangerous practices but be at the head of line for Covid MRNA therapy. I researched around and found out. RAFO
The question for me is are there Americans in the so called intelligence sector that are allowing this takeover? Are they working for some entity larger than the US or even the western nations combined? Even to write this sounds a bit crazy but facts are available and compelling.
The U.S. behavior (i.e. 100% full-throated support of Israel) is not really complex to understand (though it was for me when my awareness of history, geopolitics and capitalism was less). And Jews or Judaism are not the motivation/affinity behind the U.S. Empire's actions. At the end of the day, I would attribute the support for Israel/Zionism to 2 different groups ->
[A] Christian Zionists and other Zionists that actually believe in the bullshit 'second coming of God' narratives about Israel.
[B] TPTB (The Powers That Be) -> This group is not really concerned about religions or Jews. For them, it is more about global hegemony, profits, control over resources, keeping others exploitated so as to stay on top of the 'class hierarchy', etc. - basically what a (normal) ruthless Capitalist would do.
Hence, I'm not convinced by ANY of these 'Zionists/Jews in positions of power' narratives as being behind everything. One simple way to understand this is to look at ALL the billionaires, oligarchs, corporations, etc. that are NOT Jews or Zionists - they support Israel (and Zionists) as much as Israelis and Zionists. The reality is that THEIR (TPTB) INTERESTS ALIGN well with those of the Israelis/Zionists, hence they have the same goals. I am not a believer of 'Zionists/Jews control the world' narratives - such narratives are too simplistic for our complex world - and upon deeper examination (which few bother to do), the logic of such narratives falls apart.
I may not have made myself clear. I do not believe Zionists control the world or do I have the least bit antisemitic bias. However their control in the US is not a question.
Let me ask you a couple questions: Do you believe there is a group that is manipulating world events? A powerful entity and the Zionists are merely tools like all other actors. Or is it an evil free for all? Kind of like the question about intelligent design of the cosmos.
>>Q. (1) "Do you believe there is a group that is manipulating world events?
A. (1) I believe people act according to whatever is in their best interests (for the most part). Hence, rich and prowerful people will behave in ways that serve the rich and powerful (i.e. protect their wealth and increase their profits - often at any cost). No, I don't believe there is ANY 'coherent group' where ALL the interests of the individual participants align perfectly or there is perfect co-ordination (or agreement in the execution of strategies) amongst such people. What brings these people together is their shared goals and agendas - > and that is to protect their existing wealth and to make more money (for which a certain amount of power and control is needed).
Hence, I don't believe in 'cabal' conspiracies or 'WEF' conspiracies. I find the behavior of such groups as the WEF perfectly NORMAL (though not acceptable according to me) and something to be EXPECTED. I would be surprised/puzzled if 'groups' like the WEF, etc. did NOT behave the way they do. (i.e. Power wants what power wants - and they will align themselves in whatever ways that help them achieve and expand this power).
>>Q. (2) "A powerful entity and the Zionists are merely tools like all other actors. Or is it an evil free for all?"
A. (2) Multiple questions/implications in the above statement. The "REAL tools" are the ordinary people that continue to support the unjust hieararchies created in society by the powerful. The "REAL tools" are the ones that don't have class consciousness. The "REAL tools" are the ones that do the bidding of TPTB (the powers that be). This is more than just about Zionists. Zionists are NOT monolithic - they come in many flavors, different motivations, and different positions in the hierarchy of 'class-based' societies. There are Zionists who are so specifically for the purpose of remaining at the top of such hierarchies (and Israel and the U.S. Empire helps them do so). Then there are other Zionists (eg. narrative-based Zionists) that have been gaslighted and indoctrinated with narratives and propaganda to serve the interests of those higher up the 'socio-economic' hierarchy (including by other Zionists (AND non-Zinists) on these higher rungs of the hierarchy).
The question of "an evil free for all" is a different discussion. People are motivated by different reasonings/rationality and psychopathies. EVIL is also a subjective thing. For eg. I consider ALL those people that exploit others for their own selfish interests to be EVIL (which obviously includes oligarchs, higher-order Capitalists, many people in positions of power and authority, fascists, bigots, racists, and much more - this is a really huge group of people IMO). Many Zionists and supporters of Israel (and the U.S. Empire) would fall under MY subjective interpretation of EVIL.
I'm sorry, but the article is quite logically (and historically) flawed - it would take a whole another article to detail the errors, bias, and real anti-semitism/Jew-hatred in it - it even makes use of 'The Protocol of the Elders of Zion' to bolster its arguments.
I doubt the author of that article is able to make the distinctions between Jews, Judaism, Zionism. The other huge flaw in the article is that the author does not seem to understand the role CAPITALISM plays in the unfolding of events and the geostrategic motivations involved, not to mention how the global financial system works and how it is used in the context of Israel/Palestine (like I said, it will take a whole another article to list the errors...)
The article you mention is the 'precise' kind of shit/low-quality/neo-Nazi crap floating around on Substack that adds to the toxicity of Substack and hinders quality discussions.
Brilliant idea! Many (most?) Israelis have dual or triple nationality, so it would be much easier to relocate them back to their other country. Those not having a second nationality could be relocated to the country where their ancestors are buried.
I vote for them (Israeli Zionists - maybe even American Zionists) to be enclosed in tightly-controlled bantustans. There is a thriving PIC (Prison Industrial Complex) in the U.S. - maybe they can manage/control these Zionists (which I believe are a much higher danger/threat to society than the current occupants of these prisons).
Hell, maybe we can even get Zionists to exploit fellow Zionists - they seem to be psychopathically and sociopathically primed to exploit their own.
TEXAS. They can fill in all the spots of these crazy ass Christianized (I like Hedges' word -- not Christian, but Christianized) Fascists who invade NM every freakin month, keeping their TX plates, paying no taxes but working here. Screw 'em. Give their homesteads to the Zionists. Mostly hot & humid like Israel. Perfect fit.
This video of the young woman hysterically saying she feels threatened is right in line with the “speech is violence” nonsense used to close down any disagreement. Only validation of her irrational “fear” will be acceptable to this drama queen. The people trapped in inner city ghettos have a real reason to be afraid and I doubt that’s where she lives.
"The genocide says . . .that all our vaunted morality and respect for human rights is a lie."
Chris Hedges, A Genocide Foretold, p. 59.
for truth about Israel/Gaza see Hedges & Mate in NYC
Not to mention Gabor Mate/Chris Hedges and Aaron Mate. U-tube.
and human life. The whole idea that life is precious? Is to me, is to Caitlin and many more here. The most precious thing we own. Our life. But they take it, with bombs, and injections and profit seeking. To those who live by inequality and self interest? Life is cheap and disposable.
The problem with the USA's society that leads to its genocidal actions is that it has a great Constitution, as a democratic document, which its politicians -- of course under paid orders from their plutocratic overseers -- actually conform to occasionally. This convinces the masses that the US is still a democratic republic. While the rest of the time, US pols are essentially wiping their derrieres with the constitution, and their constituents of self-interest choose not to notice. The empire collapseth, and those of us who have been detesting it for a lifetime are not overly sad about it.
The US government is, by design, a republic. The framers feared democracy, so they established a government in which white, wealthy, male landowners above the age of majority could "democratically" choose their small "r" republican representatives. That cohort of voters was comprised of approximately 3% of the US population that were not Native Americans who had zero consideration.
"A government of the people, by the people for the people" !
A government of men of property, by men of property, for men of property, more like it! And that property contained slaves.
Indeed, slaves were property — capital assets with “book” values on the balance sheets.
Employees have no book values and can be discarded at the convenience of their employers with no loss on the balance sheets.
The “Founders” knew what they were doing — for their own benefit and for that of their sons, grandsons, etc. I don’t know what their wives thought about that.
Thank you CK. I missed adding "... WHITE men of property..." which was what I really needed to say.
we are still slaves, most just don't know it. They call it modern banking.
But it is lifelong debt to banker scum who create money out of thin air, and tack on usury, and an inflation tax. And tell us we need to be debtor slaves until we pay it back. In case anyone missed it, most people NEVER get out of debt. Slaves
I litigated for years, defending debtors against bankers. Worst thing about the process, is watching the people who did not get screwed by debt (yet) hating on the debtors just like the judges did. "Deadbeat debtors"
people are generally stupefied by beliefs systems.
I would imagine there were a number of food poisoning.
True enough. No one's saying it wasn't an imperfect document or that 20 million Native people didn't die in a settler colonial genocide.. I'm just commenting on the "choice" by current pols to abide by the key document of my concern and should've specified "Bill of Rights -- being the pages they choose or not -- to wipe their arses with.
No disagreement, here.
The pols are like the “cafeteria Catholics” who pick and choose which doctrines and edicts to follow vs. which ones to ignore.
I didn’t coin the term of “cafeteria Catholics”. That “cafeteria” concept exists within many organized religions and within the policies and procedures of many secular organizations.
Yes, I've heard it before. It's an apt descriptor, and it just evoked a memory in my old mind that I hadn't imaged in maybe decades. A particular chain of cafeterias in 1950's NYC. That's the human brain for you. Hopelessly unpredictable.
True.
As it is at this time: The 'outlaw US Empire' strings out talks with Iran in the hope that all Palestinians will be dead.
Who trusts the US Empire?
There doesn't seem to be a DEMOCRATIC country that is not in trouble........time for white people to go away.
Can't disagree with that, Jenny. The Caucasian-DNA mob of humanity has certainly delivered a cataclysm of horror to both the planet and its "other" inhabitants over history. But personally, I think the genus Homo has outlived its evolutionary lifespan, especially when I look at images of Elon Musk scowling at S. Africa's president. If this is preeminent Homo, we are surely lost.
seriously ? nothing to do with color ffs. Everything to do with inequality and who controls is. White, black , yellow, green, makes no difference. Want to fix it, end the obscene in equality instead of apologizing for it.
Who is apologising?
Don't like that ?, lets rephrase it. It only an idiot blames people of certain color for the results of the expression of gross inequality.
Great point!
Great book, thank you for making it known here. I support Chris's writing and podcasting.
Thanks. So do I. Chris has the unique ability from his experience as a war journalist to bring out the stories of individuals in their own words, in this case, Palestinians, living and dead, many friends or acquaintances of his. It makes it more personal, more chilling, really. I can only absorb a few pages at a time.
Dear Doug,
I’m doing okay, my dear friend. I’ve returned to what remains of my home in western Gaza City. We are suffering from a severe shortage of food and peace of mind. It seems no one cares to stop this war, and they appear determined to carry out their plan of killing and displacing the people of Gaza.
Honestly, I can’t describe much of what’s happening. All I can say is that no aid is reaching Gaza. Everything Israeli media claims is pure lies. They are continuing to starve and kill us—every last one of us.
This time, I will try not to leave my home until my very last breath. After experiencing the pain of displacement and the humiliation of tent life, it’s hard to imagine going through that again. I don’t know what the future holds, but I wish someone would allow us to leave and move with dignity to any place that doesn’t carry the scent of death.
Of course, my old friend, you may speak about me and share my voice and story. They are all that will remain of me when I leave this cruel world—my words and my story.
Best wishes,
Nour
My heart breaks each day as this disgusting horror continues. It amazes me that you have such strength while these Zionist Jews care only for making themselves the victims, always while they cause death and destruction. Hold fast, Nour--that is the MacLeod motto, it should also be yours.
Please refer to Zionists without calling them Jews. There are plenty of Zionists who are not Jews--just look at the White House under either Repugs or Dems. I happen to be a secular Jew, and I am NOT a Zionist. I am in tears over the physician in Gaza who just lost most of her kids to Israeli bombs, with her husband and one child hanging onto life in the ICU. And such tragedies have been going on for 19 months and only Yemen stands up for Palestine.
Then you have to get Zionists to stop telling us they are Jews and that Israel is a "Jewish" state. Who were the men wearing the yarmulke or kippah attacking Muslims? Or the soldiers in the IOF are none of them Jews? Do all the settlers attacking food trucks have not one Jew amongst them? Then there are the Jews in the knesset that are responsible for the orders to kill all Gazans sitting there proudly wearing the yarmulke, are they not zionist Jews, especially the ones with the payot?
It's hard to face but it is what the world is seeing and no denying it will make it so.
how many people the USA murdered in the last 60 years, 30 , 40 million ?
We don't blame Christians for what their American government does, why do you blame Jews in Israel, for what their government does ??
And why do you ignore the fact our governments support the genocide as well? making all of us complicit by your reasoning.
“ The Israel Defense Force has killed thousands of children and babies in the Gaza Strip: whether As a hobby, or purposefully, as a profession, or whether intentionally or by mistake, the IDF is an army responsible for the mass killing of children, women, and the elderly, and no one in the world can deny this.” Gideon Levy, Haaretz
Israel is supporting ISIS gangs to steal whatever food gets into Gaza. Their military just watches them do it and they kill Gaza cops who try to prevent it.
But of course Israel has the most moral military evah.
IDF snipers take great pride in their skills.
Israel is a Terrorist State supported by War Criminals.
US is a terrorist state which provides bombs to the other terrorist states.
All they ever do is lie. Why does anyone believe anything coming out of Israel or Trump?
In a sane world, neither of those "men" (and I use term very loosely) would be anywhere near public service. Sadly, they have mastered the art of hypnotizing voters.
I do put some responsibility on the voters, especially here in the U.S., because they need to pull their heads out of their behinds.
Because it was better under Biden's rule? Not according to the former Israeli ambassador.
Absolutely not. The current genocide started under Biden's presidency and he enabled it every step of the way.
Please do not assume that when I criticize Trump that I'm a Democratic voter. I detest both parties.
Eddie I thinknthere are plenty of us in our homes here thinking the same thing you are. We just came to the conclusion a little bit earlier. Both parties only offer us what they are willing to let us have. (Old geezers) Now don't get me wrong I'm 73 almost 74 so no spring chicken but even I know we are all being pitted against each I ther. We're giing after the wrong people. Being devided is only causjng us all more pain and letting the asshats in D.C. get away with fleecing all us sheeple. Two wings of the same turkey.
Agreed. I don't like to think of myself as an Accelerationist however, nothing it seems will change until long past what I thought was the bottom. Bernie Sanders or Genocide Bernie failed us at the last hope for change with less pain. " Joe Biden would make a great President" South Carolina debate, yep he did : ( 4,800$ over two elections : (
Oh, what a glorious morning! And, what a beautiful genocide we have going full tilt. Couple that beautiful genocide with beautiful vaccines and you have Nirvana. Thanks to Donnie, the world is soooooo beautiful.
Isn't just the orange man.
'it's a bit bomby and faminy in Gaza today'.
Caitlin, throughout this darkness your beautiful, clever and witty writing, that you manage despite it all, is sometimes the only thing that puts a smile on my face.
I just wish it could have the consequences it deserves!
Nine kids killed and their tattered, burnt bodies received by the mother....Just Imagine
Yes, just imagine. Just imagine the orgy of media torment if they were "jewish" little snakes. The hypocrisy in the western presstitute media is beyond the pale.
Unwanted puppies in the USA probably have a better survival rate than Palestinian children in Gaza. Reading this I stop and wonder how anyone viewing this horror story wouldn't be left in shock by the callousness on full dispay by the NeoNazis. The irony of it all is that the (they) are Zionists mostly of whom are of European descent but are convinced they are the ones being persecuted. Make it make sense!
Hi Kathleen
Ain’t no making sense of it. The Zionazi narrative has corrupted the West, and there are those bought and paid for congresswhores who are in need of short ropes and tall trees.
I’ve said this before; if the Ziopaths were specifically targeting puppies and kittens, they’d no longer exist.
Thank you, much love.
I heard Israel is the only Democracy Nazi Nation in the Middle East (brought to you by Zio America).
Cancel Israel. In the one State Palestine Jews and Palestinians and others can live in peace.
as they did before 1948 and the influx of balfour's 'solution'
I love the videos of the Jews from that ancient community of Jerusalem saying: "this place is called Palestine, and we lived here in peace before there was an Israel". And then the Zionist thugs, Jews, their own countrymen beat them up. It is so revealing!
I cannot click like... I want to click my heart is breaking for her.
I know, I feel the same. I resolved that by remembering I am not like the event but the attention brought to the dark when mass media hides it.
The Zionists have well and truly overplayed that they are the victims. The facad is crumbling. Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for them and that they experience the full karma.
The only karma occurring now is to the Gazans whose society f*cked around 10.7.23 and are now in the find out phase, being on the losing side of a siege. They decided to start a hot war against an opponent that could literally withhold their biological necessities, and so, Gazan's level of stupidity is unmatched. Israel is doing everyone a favor by their karmic reaction.
You, sir, are a troll and a garbage human being. Delete your throwaway account. Touch grass. Consider that what happens to Gazans today, can happen to your and your family tomorrow if a powerful group decides to get uppity. And I won't be entertaining any responses to this, since that's all you want.
‘Throwaway’…you’re a soulless freak. How anyone can take pleasure in the abject cruelty of the IDF’s actions in Gaza is beyond comprehension. You do realise how much Israel is despised the world over don’t you? By millions and millions of non-arabs like me - they’re fucking hated with a passion. Just let that sink in for a while…
How easily your conscience is soothed. An entire population is being erased.
It's correct to erase an enemy population that refuses surrender, as an example of why surrender is important. Normalizing resistance was the dumbest thing internationalist ever did.
Palestinians were living in an open air concentration camp. And please explain why Israel is destroying the West Bank and killing civilians even though there is no Hamas there. Kinda exposes your lies.
Israel's issue is with those who are enemies to the Zionist state and Israeli sovereignty. So the whole of the popular resistance, not just the militants (the entire "Palestinian" population of Egyptian/Jordanian squatters)
israel's issue is with the world, the entire human race.
Then Israel has a real problem - because enemies of the Zionist state are all over the world, not just in Gaza, Egypt or Iran. You’re fucking despised by millions all over the globe..
Yes, The Balfour doc. was the dumbest thing ever an internationalist ever did. I agree with you.
So is Israel. They will rape and sodemise themselves to death if the resistance don’t put the scum out of their misery first.
Geez. Throwaway, you are one sick person. I hope you can find some treatment.
Go suck Satanyahoo’s shriveled old cock, motherfucker, right after he’s fucked you in the ass. Mmm, tasty.
Ah, wow and I agree : )
If your nextdoor neighbor started a war with a group of people on the next block would you get blaned for that also? Think about it for a hot minute.
If I provided economic, logistic and familial aid to my next door neighbor in their war, then yes I would, as are the Gazan people correctly being targeted.
What a weak basis of argument you make,.
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.
This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.
Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.
You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?
"It's Not a War When Only One Side Has an Army" said the protest sign.
How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.
If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.
Nethu himself provided funding to Hamas.
Sure, he giveth and he taketh away (all the food.)
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
Yeah nothing was happening to Gazans on 10/6. They were living life to the fullest….oh wait they weren’t.
That society should have left or been ejected in 1967. The best time was then but the second best time is now.
Palestineans are trapped between Hamas and Zionism. Either way they will suffer tremenously and also watch their children suffer. Its a no win situation. Only Zionists could fix this and they're too hate filled to even try.
Hey just keep liking those faschist boots! Nothing like the taste of second hand dog feces.
gazans (nor hamas) were stupid. they expected that israel would negotiate. they expected that the western world, espousing high moral values, would intervene. the belligerent 'i'm a 1000 pound grizzly or a live electric socket' argument is a dead end, lest one wants to be banned from the simian flock.
Arguments are a dead end, yes. Anti-Zionists have a phrase for when they can't maintain the illusion that an argument or "international law" or a moral opinion has anything to do with real consequences: facts on the ground.
Facts on the ground that Israel CAN unilaterally impose, like mass starvation or zero reconstruction are the cost of the lies of the anti-Zionists.
Basically the West can impose some pain on Israel (because sanctions evasions is trivial post-globalization and sanctions don't apply to intellectual property) but Israel can impose biologically incompatible conditions on their enemy.
When the world gets around to realizing that one side has won and negotiates things on Israel's terms, then we will be able to move forwards. Until then there will just be more crying about the facts on the ground.
i'm a bit confused by the use of 'anti-zionists' in the first two sentences. israel can indeed impose mass starvation (it does) or zero reconstruction (like russia could have nuked ukraine).
i somewhat disagree with sanction evasion being trivial in all circumstances (russia vs north korea, cuba, venezuela, apartheid south africa, ...).
despite the general narrative control, i estimate that people still can understand the difference between one set of 'facts on the ground' and another. i don't think the world 'realizes' who has 'won', but kinda decides.
Out of all of your sanctions examples, only one case has actually changed a major matter of sovereignty: south africa. I'm sure you think that sanctions were the "silver bullet" there, but this was a major point of discussion I had in college history. What are the historical precedents for sovereign collapse. Economics, internal or external are actually minor factors, because sovereign nations have significant elasticity in tolerating changing economic conditions.
There were two factors that South Africa had to deal with that had nothing to do with sanctions that pushed them over the edge: reliance on the people they were fighting and a sovereign shock with the loss of south west africa. The ending of the cold war was resolved without their major input and they lost a large piece of territory that was structurally part of their sovereignty and the loss of this had very large ripple effects.
Gaza is actually facing collapse over these conditions rather than Israel: reliance upon Israel for biological survival when that support has now been withdrawn and the shock of losing ~50% of the territory held before the war.
It won't be any surprise when the remaining governing structures in Gaza unravel. There are many parallels of this in history.
As far as Israel goes and sanctions... they were sanctioned (actually embargoed) by a major trade partner (Turkey) and it had minor if any impact. Even if Europe did sanction, then globalization means outputs and inputs can be switched in a matter of days rather than months as it was during the fall of the NNP.
sanctions evasion is not trivial in all circumstances. gazan governing structures can easily be rebuild (unlike israeli). the reliance upon israel was not a matter of choice and losing 50% of the territory of an open air prison might not be as big as a shock as was namibia for the south africans. gazans kinda live on the old adage 'freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose'. israel and the west have no freedom. globalization and sanctions still can work both ways.
Aren't you the voice of sunshine?
Israelis are living on stolen land. They are thieves and murderers. I don't feel safe with them in the world. What does that make them? Anti human?
"I don't feel safe with them in the world." I feel the same way. I fear for humanity of what these people will do.
They are demonic.
It makes them the vampires that they are, Susan.
Fascists is what you get when the selfish, bigoted and entitled see themselves in the mirror.
If it were all about Hamas, which is in Gaza, then Israel would not be murdering, raping, torturing, imprisoning, destroying throughout all of Occupied Palestine, i.e. the bit they call the West Bank where Hamas is not active.
The crackdown on protesters in the US is very disturbing, and, because it is all about silencing criticism, it illuminates clearly who the true evil oppressor is.
Hamas already agreed to a teuce,which Israel and its American sponsor broke as soon as convenient.
Anyway, that's like blaming the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising for not having surrendered.
Muslim's lie in war so readily they have a word for it: Hudna. Lying to Muslims to cheat them in war is simply common sense. The only way to deal with them is with force and deceit.
Zionists have a word for their deeply layered propaganda: Hasbara
Lying to an enemy is part of war. Never let morality get in the way of winning. At the end of the day nothing is worse than losing sovereignty, so if you have the dominant position, use every means necessary to win. If not, surrender.
I know I'm feeding the troll, but this is not a war. It is apartheid genocide.
Don't feed the troll.
More utter tripe from anti-zionists. Apartheid genocide is not a thing: Apartheid literally means living separately. Genocide means the destruction of a population.
If a population is genocided it's not present to live separately.
Also, Israel unlike South Africa's NNP party has no need for the Egyptian/Jordanian squatters, so they don't need apartheid as South Africa did. As for it not being a war, it's really irrelevant that you don't want to call it a war: wars can be very very one sided, as this one is, just ordinarily the losing side is smart enough to surrender. That the Arab squatters aren't smart enough is the squatter's fault and problem, not Israel's.
More utter tripe from a genocide cheerleader.
Go fuck yourself, lickspittle simp.
"Never let morality get in the way of winning." Well throwaway I certainly do hope you get picked up throwaway with the garbage.
Without MORALITY we are nothing!
You obviously have not even recognised that Palestinean children are the most victimized of all of the persons living almost anywhere in the world. They have been shot in the head, blown up, starved, and nailed to walls and you don't even care. To you its a preventative measure to make sure they never have a home, a bed, toys, comfort, food, or a life of even the poorest of U.S. children or most of all freedom to exist as a human worthy of recognition as human. They are the expendable in you eyes. I can only say be careful of your desires as what you seek to set up as normal could easily be that which is turned back onto yourself. Its happened to others in the past. I see no hope of redemption for your soul. You are a symbol of the lost. Everything you touch will be tainted. You must be a part of the religous Reich who's beliefs only glorify the dollars (shekels) in your pockets. Money comes and money goes but a persons soul is never a monetary transaction. The day will come when this country shifts and you will be one of those people living the life of a child of Gaza. Nowhere to lay your head. I doubt anyone will see or hear you pleas either.
They can surrender and leave Eretz Yisrael if they don't like the conditions. You can't stand the idea that Israel wins unconditionally so much that you'd rather see them stay in place and suffer unimaginably than pressure others to give them a place to go.
I'm not religious at all, by the way.
Also fiat currency and the economy are not going anywhere (lol -except Gaza.)
What a load of crap you’re pushing!
Look what Isntreal has become while people were pressuring others in regards to Isreal No one seems to care about anything anymore.
It's interesting how it now all become "Trump's" plan, when it has been the Zionist plan for many decades.
It's given Trump partial ownership and an active participant, in the genocide, and Netenyahu is able to deflect criticism away to Washington.
And what could we really expect if Hamas surrenders, walks out of the ruins, drops their weapons and puts up their hands? I think we all know exactly how it would transpire. They'd be lined up and summarily executed.
Then the Zionists would systematically kill the women and children.
The collective west would utter words of shock and horror, whilst secretly being relieved that Palestine no longer exists and we can "get over it".
Only that would not be the end.
Israel would continue the killing on other fronts. It's a land full of hatred, racism and paranoia.
If Hamas surrenders they would not be executed by a firing squad as the leaders of the Irish uprising in 1916 were. They would be tortured to death in the worst possible way,
Don't threaten Israelis with a good time.
Your name says it all.
Back into the dumpster with ya, shithead.
CJ>>"There is no way to permanently remove all Palestinians from a Palestinian territory without material coercion — meaning more mass scale violence and siege warfare."
Here is a suggestion Caitlin -> Since the U.S. Empire (and its Zionist supporters) like Israelis SO MUCH, why not MOVE EVERY SINGLE ZIONIST ISRAELI OUT OF PALESTINE and into America? (I'd really like to see how many American Zionist Jews and Christian Zionists would be willing to accept Israelis into THEIR COMMUNITIES - now that the WHOLE WORLD knows how psychopathic and sociopathic Israelis are).
And there should be a new law to go along with this FORCED DISPLACEMENT of Israeli Zionists to the U.S. -> They are only allowed to settle into those communities AFTER the communities get to VOTE on whether they would accept them or not. Of course, a lot more laws will need to be created to control this 'Israeli Zionist' population in the U.S. - but that's a problem for another day.
Wouldn't this solve MOST of the problems (other than the VACUUM of U.S. power created in the MENA region) for this 100+ year settler-colonial project?
When Trump was announcing his plan to depopulate Gaza and move them (loosely quoting) “to a beautiful city where everyone will be safe” I thought — if it’s so big and so beautiful how about the Zionists go there instead? No more worries about Hamas.
Chang
Your suggestion about moving out the Israelis to the USA has great merit. Full marks.
However, not a lot of imagination required to anticipate how such a move would be regarded by the average decent American.
Make this suggestion to Miriam Adelson. She would certainly contribute to the cost of travel.............and so would I.
I think my motivation behind the reasoning of 'moving Zionist Israelis to the U.S.' is the following ->
(1) There are many similarities in culture of these two societies - i.e. settler-colonialism, genocide, apartheid, and more.
(2) I suspect that Israeli Zionists will add fuel to the 'process of destruction/dismantling' of the U.S. Empire - which is something that I believe will be GOOD for the whole world (including Americans that don't yet realize this).
(3) It seems unlikely that the U.S. Empire can be subdued by external forces. On the basis of that, one can only hope (and there might actually be a high probability for this) that these Israeli Zionists (along with the other Zionists in America) will destroy the EMPIRE from within.
I'm open to better (more feasible?) suggestions...
I knew there would be a serious reason for your suggestion.
Yes, I agree. The destruction of the country that the USA has become must come from the people. Must come from inside and not outside. Therefore, because of the time required for such changes, it will not be in my lifetime.
To come from outside would also mean a military solution, the destruction of half the planet, one way or another.
The more I read about how entrenched Zionists are in the US I firmly believe that if they chose to they could destroy the country. It sounds far fetched only if you are unaware how rooted they are in all the powerful positions. Most people understand that Zionists control the government to a large degree and that alone has potential for destruction. But business, banking, tech and if you do not know check out how many dual citizenship Israelis, and or Jews were involved with the Covid fiasco. From the CDC to Pfizer. Absolutely mind boggling. I wondered how Pfizer could lose a 2.1 billion dollar lawsuit for unethical and dangerous practices but be at the head of line for Covid MRNA therapy. I researched around and found out. RAFO
The question for me is are there Americans in the so called intelligence sector that are allowing this takeover? Are they working for some entity larger than the US or even the western nations combined? Even to write this sounds a bit crazy but facts are available and compelling.
The U.S. behavior (i.e. 100% full-throated support of Israel) is not really complex to understand (though it was for me when my awareness of history, geopolitics and capitalism was less). And Jews or Judaism are not the motivation/affinity behind the U.S. Empire's actions. At the end of the day, I would attribute the support for Israel/Zionism to 2 different groups ->
[A] Christian Zionists and other Zionists that actually believe in the bullshit 'second coming of God' narratives about Israel.
[B] TPTB (The Powers That Be) -> This group is not really concerned about religions or Jews. For them, it is more about global hegemony, profits, control over resources, keeping others exploitated so as to stay on top of the 'class hierarchy', etc. - basically what a (normal) ruthless Capitalist would do.
Hence, I'm not convinced by ANY of these 'Zionists/Jews in positions of power' narratives as being behind everything. One simple way to understand this is to look at ALL the billionaires, oligarchs, corporations, etc. that are NOT Jews or Zionists - they support Israel (and Zionists) as much as Israelis and Zionists. The reality is that THEIR (TPTB) INTERESTS ALIGN well with those of the Israelis/Zionists, hence they have the same goals. I am not a believer of 'Zionists/Jews control the world' narratives - such narratives are too simplistic for our complex world - and upon deeper examination (which few bother to do), the logic of such narratives falls apart.
I may not have made myself clear. I do not believe Zionists control the world or do I have the least bit antisemitic bias. However their control in the US is not a question.
Let me ask you a couple questions: Do you believe there is a group that is manipulating world events? A powerful entity and the Zionists are merely tools like all other actors. Or is it an evil free for all? Kind of like the question about intelligent design of the cosmos.
>>Q. (1) "Do you believe there is a group that is manipulating world events?
A. (1) I believe people act according to whatever is in their best interests (for the most part). Hence, rich and prowerful people will behave in ways that serve the rich and powerful (i.e. protect their wealth and increase their profits - often at any cost). No, I don't believe there is ANY 'coherent group' where ALL the interests of the individual participants align perfectly or there is perfect co-ordination (or agreement in the execution of strategies) amongst such people. What brings these people together is their shared goals and agendas - > and that is to protect their existing wealth and to make more money (for which a certain amount of power and control is needed).
Hence, I don't believe in 'cabal' conspiracies or 'WEF' conspiracies. I find the behavior of such groups as the WEF perfectly NORMAL (though not acceptable according to me) and something to be EXPECTED. I would be surprised/puzzled if 'groups' like the WEF, etc. did NOT behave the way they do. (i.e. Power wants what power wants - and they will align themselves in whatever ways that help them achieve and expand this power).
>>Q. (2) "A powerful entity and the Zionists are merely tools like all other actors. Or is it an evil free for all?"
A. (2) Multiple questions/implications in the above statement. The "REAL tools" are the ordinary people that continue to support the unjust hieararchies created in society by the powerful. The "REAL tools" are the ones that don't have class consciousness. The "REAL tools" are the ones that do the bidding of TPTB (the powers that be). This is more than just about Zionists. Zionists are NOT monolithic - they come in many flavors, different motivations, and different positions in the hierarchy of 'class-based' societies. There are Zionists who are so specifically for the purpose of remaining at the top of such hierarchies (and Israel and the U.S. Empire helps them do so). Then there are other Zionists (eg. narrative-based Zionists) that have been gaslighted and indoctrinated with narratives and propaganda to serve the interests of those higher up the 'socio-economic' hierarchy (including by other Zionists (AND non-Zinists) on these higher rungs of the hierarchy).
The question of "an evil free for all" is a different discussion. People are motivated by different reasonings/rationality and psychopathies. EVIL is also a subjective thing. For eg. I consider ALL those people that exploit others for their own selfish interests to be EVIL (which obviously includes oligarchs, higher-order Capitalists, many people in positions of power and authority, fascists, bigots, racists, and much more - this is a really huge group of people IMO). Many Zionists and supporters of Israel (and the U.S. Empire) would fall under MY subjective interpretation of EVIL.
We already have an occupied government. It's just seems obvious at this point.
Stuff nightmares are made of.
Read this piece to see how much global zionists control. https://jacksongunnbarrett.substack.com/p/reflections-on-the-influence-of-jewish?utm_source=publication-search
I'm sorry, but the article is quite logically (and historically) flawed - it would take a whole another article to detail the errors, bias, and real anti-semitism/Jew-hatred in it - it even makes use of 'The Protocol of the Elders of Zion' to bolster its arguments.
I doubt the author of that article is able to make the distinctions between Jews, Judaism, Zionism. The other huge flaw in the article is that the author does not seem to understand the role CAPITALISM plays in the unfolding of events and the geostrategic motivations involved, not to mention how the global financial system works and how it is used in the context of Israel/Palestine (like I said, it will take a whole another article to list the errors...)
The article you mention is the 'precise' kind of shit/low-quality/neo-Nazi crap floating around on Substack that adds to the toxicity of Substack and hinders quality discussions.
Make Palestine Again. Stop the Genocide/Holocaust Now.
Brilliant idea! Many (most?) Israelis have dual or triple nationality, so it would be much easier to relocate them back to their other country. Those not having a second nationality could be relocated to the country where their ancestors are buried.
Problem solved.
Hi Chang,, there’s already an “IsraHell” in Amerikkka; it’s called Noo Yawk Shitty.
Move ‘em there and cut that shithole loose.
I'm in agreement with you. Lets all vote on this ASAP! Maybe tomorro! We all have phones. Should be relatively easy process.
I vote for them (Israeli Zionists - maybe even American Zionists) to be enclosed in tightly-controlled bantustans. There is a thriving PIC (Prison Industrial Complex) in the U.S. - maybe they can manage/control these Zionists (which I believe are a much higher danger/threat to society than the current occupants of these prisons).
Hell, maybe we can even get Zionists to exploit fellow Zionists - they seem to be psychopathically and sociopathically primed to exploit their own.
TEXAS. They can fill in all the spots of these crazy ass Christianized (I like Hedges' word -- not Christian, but Christianized) Fascists who invade NM every freakin month, keeping their TX plates, paying no taxes but working here. Screw 'em. Give their homesteads to the Zionists. Mostly hot & humid like Israel. Perfect fit.
This video of the young woman hysterically saying she feels threatened is right in line with the “speech is violence” nonsense used to close down any disagreement. Only validation of her irrational “fear” will be acceptable to this drama queen. The people trapped in inner city ghettos have a real reason to be afraid and I doubt that’s where she lives.
A letter from a dear friend in Gaza: