If I provided economic, logistic and familial aid to my next door neighbor in their war, then yes I would, as are the Gazan people correctly being targeted.
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.
This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.
Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.
You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?
I call the allied resistance in WW2 allies and the Nazi partisans (like say Ukrainian Insurgent Army or UPA) the enemy.
As for the legality of their resistance, it's not legal in Eretz Yisrael and that's why they are subject to arrest or death. The basic law of the sovereign state of Israel is that ONLY Jews have the right to self determination, and there is no (and never has been a) "Palestinian" state.
There was never a state called Israel, either. Although Jews, Arabs, Christians all seemed to live peacefully until the European Zionists arrived, none of which had a drop of Semite blood among them.
the 'sovereign state of israel' gets its sovereignty from international law, which overrides national laws. struggles against colonial/foreign occupation are legal everywhere.
How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.
There is still an economy, logistics and familial support in Gaza even if it's poor and minimal. Israeli's job isn't finished yet.
The best thing Israel ever did was take back the border and Philadelphi corridor because they now control the existence of all of the resistance including the militants.
Iran and Egyptian MB can't smuggle in resources any more.
As for Gaza being a valuable and economically productive place I'd welcome a Western-aligned population taking it over. I'm unambiguously for Western hegemony, yep!
If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.
Not only the militants are to blame. The popular resistance is also to blame. ALL of Gaza, not some select portions currently hiding in holes in the ground taking potshots at Jews and stealing UN aid.
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
If your nextdoor neighbor started a war with a group of people on the next block would you get blaned for that also? Think about it for a hot minute.
If I provided economic, logistic and familial aid to my next door neighbor in their war, then yes I would, as are the Gazan people correctly being targeted.
What a weak basis of argument you make,.
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.
I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.
This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.
Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.
You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?
Perfectly stated. Thank you!
I call the allied resistance in WW2 allies and the Nazi partisans (like say Ukrainian Insurgent Army or UPA) the enemy.
As for the legality of their resistance, it's not legal in Eretz Yisrael and that's why they are subject to arrest or death. The basic law of the sovereign state of Israel is that ONLY Jews have the right to self determination, and there is no (and never has been a) "Palestinian" state.
There was never a state called Israel, either. Although Jews, Arabs, Christians all seemed to live peacefully until the European Zionists arrived, none of which had a drop of Semite blood among them.
the 'sovereign state of israel' gets its sovereignty from international law, which overrides national laws. struggles against colonial/foreign occupation are legal everywhere.
"It's Not a War When Only One Side Has an Army" said the protest sign.
Irregular warfare and irregular forces are a thing. It's just a dumb and demonstrably incorrect slogan.
How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.
There is still an economy, logistics and familial support in Gaza even if it's poor and minimal. Israeli's job isn't finished yet.
The best thing Israel ever did was take back the border and Philadelphi corridor because they now control the existence of all of the resistance including the militants.
Iran and Egyptian MB can't smuggle in resources any more.
As for Gaza being a valuable and economically productive place I'd welcome a Western-aligned population taking it over. I'm unambiguously for Western hegemony, yep!
If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.
Not only the militants are to blame. The popular resistance is also to blame. ALL of Gaza, not some select portions currently hiding in holes in the ground taking potshots at Jews and stealing UN aid.
Nethu himself provided funding to Hamas.
Sure, he giveth and he taketh away (all the food.)
What a lack of hummanity on your part with no regard to the many who have absolutely no control over hamas. So you include the children in the blame. So kind of you to not leave them out! I can see you might blame all adults as having the power to stop hamas but do you include American children for not stopping crime in America that exists? Expand that concept also to adults that are powerless due to corrupt government in Isreal or the USA. It apoears to be happening in both.