I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.
This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.
Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.
You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?
I call the allied resistance in WW2 allies and the Nazi partisans (like say Ukrainian Insurgent Army or UPA) the enemy.
As for the legality of their resistance, it's not legal in Eretz Yisrael and that's why they are subject to arrest or death. The basic law of the sovereign state of Israel is that ONLY Jews have the right to self determination, and there is no (and never has been a) "Palestinian" state.
There was never a state called Israel, either. Although Jews, Arabs, Christians all seemed to live peacefully until the European Zionists arrived, none of which had a drop of Semite blood among them.
If you fly to so-called "Palestine" you go through Israeli border control and when you spend money in "Palestine" you'll be spending New Israeli Shekels. When you mail something to "Palestine" it's handled by Israel.
Israeli sovereignty was real enough for 5 of their neighbors to invade in 1948 and two of them recognized Israel as part of the peace treaties they made with the state of Israel.
You are obviously a zionist Jewwho be.ieves the myths because it suits your sick, nauseating purpose of killing people with bom sse from America, and money so Israelis get free healthcare whi.e Americans do not.
It's not a myth that "Palestinians" transact in New Israeli Shekels. It's very real, and you're the one lying to yourself, now.
The US' aid to Israel isn't very significant compared to Israel's involvement in US tech. Basically every Western transaction goes through semiconductors which Israeli has had a hand in designing. The aid is a pittance compared to the benefits the US gets back economically.
the 'sovereign state of israel' gets its sovereignty from international law, which overrides national laws. struggles against colonial/foreign occupation are legal everywhere.
Sovereignty comes from a government recognized by a select population with a monopoly of force over a territory.
If "international law" said tomorrow that Israel was not a state, or all of Europe said "Israel was not a state" it wouldn't change a thing about Israel sovereignty.
Sovereignty and all actual contested rights come from power. There are no rights or sovereignty absent the force to contest those rights or sovereignty.
sovereignty comes from the world allowing it. if international law kicks in and all of europe (and the rest of the world) said israel is not a state, it will take 6 months or a year for israel to cease to exist. the world has the power to contest those rights and it is in its interest to do so.
Nope. Sovereignty existed before "international law" aka guidelines and recognition by other states.
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Israelis will be flying from and to Israel via Israeli border crossings and trading with a number of countries like India and the US regardless of what Europe or other countries do.
The Arab world tried an embargo on Israel and they simply hurt themselves in their confusion.
How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.
There is still an economy, logistics and familial support in Gaza even if it's poor and minimal. Israeli's job isn't finished yet.
The best thing Israel ever did was take back the border and Philadelphi corridor because they now control the existence of all of the resistance including the militants.
Iran and Egyptian MB can't smuggle in resources any more.
As for Gaza being a valuable and economically productive place I'd welcome a Western-aligned population taking it over. I'm unambiguously for Western hegemony, yep!
If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.
Not only the militants are to blame. The popular resistance is also to blame. ALL of Gaza, not some select portions currently hiding in holes in the ground taking potshots at Jews and stealing UN aid.
I didn't say control. I said support. This is a multigenerational popular resistance that both funds and provides all of the structural services and recruitment for Hamas, PIJ, PFLP etc. Yesterday's children that you're using an appeal to emotion with? They are todays militants or the economic, logistical and familial supporters of the militants today.
This is how total war works. This is why Germany and Japan were bombed (and Japan being a similar honor-based surrender-averse society needed stronger measures to force capitulation with.
Basically you want a loophole where a society can have a militant core resistance which cannot be effectively countered. Immunity for Palestine but not for Israel, and I reject the premise, as would any sovereign state fighting an existential war of sovereignty against a society practicing irregular warfare. This is why the US, Russian China etc etc dropped out of the ICC.
You blew your argument in your third sentence. It is indeed, a Resistance. Zionists stole the land from the original residents and they have been LEGALLY resisting ever since. Would you call the anti-Nazi resistance movements during WW2, terrorists?
Perfectly stated. Thank you!
I call the allied resistance in WW2 allies and the Nazi partisans (like say Ukrainian Insurgent Army or UPA) the enemy.
As for the legality of their resistance, it's not legal in Eretz Yisrael and that's why they are subject to arrest or death. The basic law of the sovereign state of Israel is that ONLY Jews have the right to self determination, and there is no (and never has been a) "Palestinian" state.
There was never a state called Israel, either. Although Jews, Arabs, Christians all seemed to live peacefully until the European Zionists arrived, none of which had a drop of Semite blood among them.
If you fly to so-called "Palestine" you go through Israeli border control and when you spend money in "Palestine" you'll be spending New Israeli Shekels. When you mail something to "Palestine" it's handled by Israel.
Israeli sovereignty was real enough for 5 of their neighbors to invade in 1948 and two of them recognized Israel as part of the peace treaties they made with the state of Israel.
You are obviously a zionist Jewwho be.ieves the myths because it suits your sick, nauseating purpose of killing people with bom sse from America, and money so Israelis get free healthcare whi.e Americans do not.
It's not a myth that "Palestinians" transact in New Israeli Shekels. It's very real, and you're the one lying to yourself, now.
The US' aid to Israel isn't very significant compared to Israel's involvement in US tech. Basically every Western transaction goes through semiconductors which Israeli has had a hand in designing. The aid is a pittance compared to the benefits the US gets back economically.
the 'sovereign state of israel' gets its sovereignty from international law, which overrides national laws. struggles against colonial/foreign occupation are legal everywhere.
Sovereignty comes from a government recognized by a select population with a monopoly of force over a territory.
If "international law" said tomorrow that Israel was not a state, or all of Europe said "Israel was not a state" it wouldn't change a thing about Israel sovereignty.
Sovereignty and all actual contested rights come from power. There are no rights or sovereignty absent the force to contest those rights or sovereignty.
sovereignty comes from the world allowing it. if international law kicks in and all of europe (and the rest of the world) said israel is not a state, it will take 6 months or a year for israel to cease to exist. the world has the power to contest those rights and it is in its interest to do so.
> sovereignty comes from the world allowing it.
Nope. Sovereignty existed before "international law" aka guidelines and recognition by other states.
Read webber
Israelis will be flying from and to Israel via Israeli border crossings and trading with a number of countries like India and the US regardless of what Europe or other countries do.
The Arab world tried an embargo on Israel and they simply hurt themselves in their confusion.
"It's Not a War When Only One Side Has an Army" said the protest sign.
Irregular warfare and irregular forces are a thing. It's just a dumb and demonstrably incorrect slogan.
How are people that currently depending on blocked foreign aid and now have no place to lie their heads sleeping in tents if they even have them or bombed out buildings abe to fund anything? They are begging on social media for funds for the most meager of supplies (food. clothing, etc to just exist) but per you they are funding an assault on a whole militerized army of Zionist who our Senate is insistant on supporting. Supporting Zionists isn't a crime when they are commiting mass Genocide? Its litterly figuratively like David and Goliath with Palestineans being David. The roles are completly reversed because all Palestineans have been painted as the aggressors when this is a power grab assisted by corrupted governments to help the powerful in Isntreal who want to control any assets like minerals, shipping ports, oil, and rebuild the Gaza coast with luxury homes and resorts for the weatlhy. Almost would make a reader think you would be one of the ultra wealthy or have some kind of financial interest since you seem to have such commitment to BiBi the Zionist succeeding in his evil plan. To some persons evil seem to be o.k. as long as there is monetary profit enough to slake their thirst. Is money everything? It would seem so.
There is still an economy, logistics and familial support in Gaza even if it's poor and minimal. Israeli's job isn't finished yet.
The best thing Israel ever did was take back the border and Philadelphi corridor because they now control the existence of all of the resistance including the militants.
Iran and Egyptian MB can't smuggle in resources any more.
As for Gaza being a valuable and economically productive place I'd welcome a Western-aligned population taking it over. I'm unambiguously for Western hegemony, yep!
If your saying yesterdays children have become the militants of today then you must be certain who some of that group is to a certain degree. Please give us names so we can call them out and have them prosecuted instead of damning a whole group. You must be able to help with that since your convictions seem to imply greater knowledge. We have criminals within the the U.S. also like the individuals who have committed actions against Congress on Jan 6th that have been in court and were named and charged with specific crimes.
Not only the militants are to blame. The popular resistance is also to blame. ALL of Gaza, not some select portions currently hiding in holes in the ground taking potshots at Jews and stealing UN aid.