My favorite incident(s) from our "war on terror" was when we delibrately targetted hospitals with Doctors Without Borders- multiple times. Even used a C-130 gunship.
And - neither Israel nor the US gives an aerial intercourse about what the rest of us think regarding those fifteen things. In fact, I get the feeling they are points of pride, with a soupçon of irritation over bad press and possible election fallout.
Found a new context for the slogan “Never Again”. It’s for the unrelenting mind-blowing atrocities of the despicable Zion state against the helpless Palestinians. Hope this energizes the non-Western useless speechifying to action!! “ Never Again”. Let’s remind Israel of how that feels!
While I'm aware that this comment opens me up to all sorts of rebound hatred, it naturally flows from psychological logic, reinforced by certain videos of mass support for IDF actions by groups of Israeli citizens (and their US Zionist counterparts) I begin to think that the collective scars of the European holocaust were/are so deep and pervasive in the Zionist psyche of Israeli society that the ultimate outcome is a society trapped in a mass psychosis of self-justifiable torture and murder. and when I hear that "Israel has a right to defend itself", I quickly morph that thought to: If that mass psychosis is real, Israel doesn't even have a right to exist as an equal partner among nations. And then, to be fair, I must apply that same metric to my own country, the good ol' US of A. But that latter thought has been with me for decades now.
Conquistadors, missionaries, slave owners, people who passed out diseased blankets on Native American reservations..... AND it's mainly monotheistic religions.
It's clear to me that the Abrahamic tradition of Eye-of-Sauron monster gods is the Mother of all Psy-Ops. Absolutely nothing compares to its psychic power, even after the rather withering onslaught of the half-millenium Enlightenment.
They have quite a vice grip on most Western cultures. I ENVY Europe because Thoth bless them ( ! ) they're pursuing a secular mindset / way of life. They are shaking the shackles of archaic belief systems. That isn't a SMALL ACHIEVEMENT. The 1st sentient AI will question most human belief systems, as will any possible ETs whose attention is attracted to us, for some reason.
I should've also mentioned the deep psychosis entailed in the Hannibal directive by which Israel kills its own to sustain some twisted pieces of veneer to its policies. Well covered by Max Blumenthal in a Hedges interview
Not only Jews were holocausted in Nazi Germany, but many Germans too: communists, socialists, alcoholics, the disabled, gypsies, vagabonds, gay, Jehova's Witnesses, other Christians, feminists, intellectuals, artists, musicians...the collective scars of the holocaust are so deep in Germany's and Europe's psyche, that even the word "nation" should be forbidden.
What do those crimes against outcasts have to do with nationhood, and needing to forbid it? This is a very strange POV to me. I think that at the beginning of the French Revolution they had it right: Liberty (Rightism), Equality (Leftism), and Fraternity (at root, shared identity as a people).
None of these, or any other, components of a nation, properly constituted -- yes, including "communists, socialists, alcoholics, the disabled, gypsies, vagabonds, gay, Jehova's Witnesses, other Christians, feminists", etc. etc. -- need be exiled. To foment do so is a perversion of idea of "Fraternite".
But then, it was Marx that began setting internal components of nation at (supposed necessary) war -- no longer negotiation -- with each other, and the rest has been a very sorry history.
Cher citoyen! If there is a nation, it would be defined by identity. The 'outcasts' were not outcast at all, but they provided identity: the markets, the music, books, art, language, religion. After the holocaust, culture was kitsch. False identity for everyone.
National borders however, are traditionally made by militarists. A real national identity has fractal borders like an island: the more you zoom in, the longer is its coastline. The coastline paradox. Israel has a fractal Palestine inside of it, besides kibbuzim, and are these not communist?
"Workers of the world, unite!" was a *war* cry. And with it, Marx hijacked Leftism. Leftism is about democracy (the "egalite" AND "fraternite" parts of the French motto) at its most fundamental. Democracy requires eternal, open-minded fluidity in politics, not rigid dogma.
Marx likes to speak of alienation. However, for him alienation (in the relatively new industrialization) not only occurs (explicitly) in the divorce of product from use. It also occurs (implicitly) in the fact that the parties -- worker and owner -- to the crime of property alienation were *themselves* alienated from each other. The destruction of national fraternity led to a "crystalized" alienation of citizen from citizen.
The latter didn't have to occur. But, IMO, Marxists *wanted* it to occur, to create an army of the powerless under their thumbs. This was implemented eventually under Lenin and his vanguards, and we all know how that cry of "power to the people" worked out, not only in Russia, but as well in nearly *all* similar efforts of the twentieth century. That's what happens when you foment a war and create a power vacuum without explaining what you're doing. "Oh, wow, *we* the vanguard will fill that vacuum! Don't worry your pretty little heads over it, soldiers-slash-worker bees!"
Now, since roughly the 50s, when the population of unherdable class-cats (that is, who migrate between classes) started going out of fashion, this so-called "Left" have the bright idea of separating people not by mutable characteristics (class), but by *immutable* ones (all the embedded identities of humans), whipped up and organized by the vanguard inheritors of Marxism. Does this sound like a way to "bring people together"?
Any diatribe about Marx that does not even mention capitalism or economic class is either incredibly ignorant or based on anti-Marxist propaganda, and not even well done propaganda at that.
"alienation ... in the divorce of product from use" [I should have said "production" here]
"worker and owner"
"unherdable class-cats (that is, who migrate between classes)"
i.e. Did I not identify that there are problems with class? There's not a lot one can cover in a handful of paragraphs -- especially when pointing out a different problem.
So, what are some great new insights about class today, that will be just the trick to turn the world around to an actually *viable* solution? Hint: We Leftists are barking up the wrong tree. We need to figure out better how societies actually work. If Marx himself actually understood, then we have to ask about his motives.
Just because Marx identified class (and eloquently) didn't mean he knew what to do about it. We in the 21st century have the great advantage of seeing what happened when his followers attempted to implement a revolt, and *dozens* of times. In my opinion, this is in large part based on a rigid *war* attitude, of implacable us-vs.-them, my team right or wrong, and of fight-to-the-death. It is this same war mindset that infects modern societies to this day. Made sense, maybe, in existential confrontations between hunter-gatherer bands tens and hundreds of thousands of years ago. But the only war needed *today* is to quarantine sociopaths/psychopaths -- they're the true enemies of society, and they're found everywhere. We need to put our thinking caps on.
So, it's past high time to step out of this box. I'd like to recognize that Leftism (social fairness), Rightism (individualist freedom), and Nationhood (societal belonging) are all pieces of the same puzzle of how to run a society.
I mean that as in geographic -- and in consequence, language, culture, etc. -- realms, where it has been natural and near-universal for a very long time. That is, since the dawn of agriculture. But where that goes awry, then, it seems, there can be problems.
As a moral argument, I think you have a point. As a practical argument, it’s not practical to go back in time. Some things can’t be undone and now you have a moral and practical conundrum. Both have a right to exist now regardless of history and both have innocent people to consider in a resolution
No. They most certainly do NOT have a right to exist and they never did. This is like arguing that Nazi Germany should have a right to exist since they existed in the 1930s. Da fuk is wrong with you. Israel hasn't existed since 322 BC when Alexander the Great eliminated them. Fuck that idea. It's psychotic and delusional.
"Da Fuk" can't you see that Israel is committing a genocide right fucking now. That's not "defense". You're like arguing that Hitler, or any other mass-murdering dictatorial monster just "had to do what he had to do" or else they'd be defeated. Are you abjectly stupid, or just evil? Humans have been forced to get along RATHER THAN SLAUGHTER EACH OTHER for fucking ever. And if the Israelis get slaughtered, guess whose fault that will be -- THEIR OWN. The Palestinians let them migrate there is the 40's, sympathetic to their suffering in the Holocaust, then the fucking "Israelis" turned the tables on them, as if they had learned from Hitler's techniques rather than decided to condemn them forever as the rest of the world had. The Israelis are the new Reich. They are literally fascists and Nazis; hell, Albert Einstein even called them out on that. So you can take your Nazi-apologia and GTFO of here.
They should have listed to Einstein and his other Jewish friends who wrote the following typo the NYT decades ago:
Answer your own question you lying piece of shit. "Israel" started this and they can end it. "Israel" can either work for peace or they can get DESTROYED. Or are you so stupid and/or indoctrinated that you can't see this. You're arguing that Hitler had to keep going or else he'd get wiped out. Well guess what, wiping out Hitler was the only way to end it. Sadly, Nazis were imported into the US after the war, and that shit lives on, both in the US and "Israel". It's time to truly wipe out Nazism.
They became war crimes with the signing of the Geneva Convention on August 12, 1949.
But as someone pointed out, in order for this operation to be a war, Hamas would need to have an actual military. They are not at war against another's army, they are leveling a neighborhood where 2.2 million people live.
Only when world power is multipolar (I.e decentralized) and finally recognizing that it’s better to collaborate as a species, share resources, and still compete with each other fairly and humanely. The first will force treaties that have teeth
It’s already happening and you’re right, rich people are trying to stop that by using poor countries and poor people for destabilizing wars. They don’t want stable competition
Makes one wonder just who are the “human animals”. Oh let’s change that to “monsters”; ANIMALS are much better humans than the current IsraHelli crop of insane murderers.
In the meanwhile, THANK YOU 🇧🇿 BELIZE for severing all ties with the apartheid quasi-nation!
Thank you. Yes, I hate it when people, who are the most destructive and vicious sentient beings on the planet, project their own hatefulness and evil onto animals. Gimme a break! If people "acted like animals" in reality, none of this would be happening.
Animals ( or four-legged sentient beings, as I prefer to call them) do not commit crimes, wage war, or find pleasure in killing.
I saw a recent video that broke my heart. Two kittens in Gaza were huddled against a wall, clutching each other as bombs rattled the background. These kittens deserve to live far more than any IsraHelli “soldier”!
Bonobos are also genetically similar primates (to us and chimps) who live peacefully and cooperate with others. Humans are capable of choosing peaceful, cooperative behavior.
I believe they protesting against Netanyahu and his right wing Govt. Plus they know he wants to dismantle the Justice system. He is basically trying to keep out of prison for many nefarious dealings.
I also don't think the average Israeli likes the fact that a lot of his Govt. are Orthodox Jews.
I heard an interview with a friend of a Canadian/Jewish human rights worker who died on October 7. She was devastated that her friend had died and also disgusted with Netanyahu's response as she felt her friend would have been as well.
You did not read correctly and I know it's difficult.
They are against the current conflict (use your brain)!
What is OP?
Many people in Israel do not like Netanyahu.
Why? Because Net. has been indicted on many crimes. He is trying to stay out of prison. He also wanted to change the Judiciary the Israeli people were against this.
Do you know about Orthodox Jews? If you don't then take the time to look it up before you make stupid comments.
I suggest you do not make comments here until you take the time to look up and read about Israel!
Not sure but they certainly don't like Netanyahu and the Orthodox Jews who sit at home producing more and more children using women as breeding machines and don't have to fight wars.
I don't think it is the German people making it illegal to support Palestine any more than it is the people of Israel making it illegal there. The holocaust left scars on many people, worse for those in Germany and Poland. It left scars on the people of the world. The present (and maybe the past) leaders of the world seem to have learned nothing from it.
Don't you know ? God ( or a reasonable facsimile ) just looks the OTHER WAY when Israel does something unimaginably abominable that attracts global attention & outrage. They THINK that they've gotten a big golden ticket.
Property values take a BIG HIT. Literally. I'm trying to use minimal spoonfulls of humor to deal with a HORRIBLE, EVIL situation. I may succeed, I may fail abysmally.
I think we also have to look at our own countries. Lowkey is revealing how many British tech and surveillance companies are owned by Israel and how linked our secret services are. Our media and politicians are being funded by friends of Israel.
The same went for the covid policies directed by pharma. And the subsidies and abandonment of greeen policies directed by animal ag and oil.
Your points are well taken. They apply even more forcefully to American foreign policy: 2015 Afghanistan, US fighter jets bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital killing 42. . . But that's not even the beginning. US sanctions in Iraq killed 500,000 children. Asked if it was worth it Madeleine Albright replied "I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it." Let us recall that Iraq had done nothing, nada, to us. Bush II just wanted a long war. But then of course there's Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh, their George Washington, overthrew the brutal French colonial forces. So we killed ~5 Million of them (excluding collateral mayhem throughout that peninsula). And they more than 50,000 of us; a 100 to 1 kill ratio.
The lesson that we must now embrace is that inhumanity anywhere is a threat to all humanity. Mother Earth has not the resources to sustain our lives much longer if we continue to kill each other and rape her.
What I see as the minimal useful action for the US:
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Revoke False Precedents
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That rot bred present fascism!
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I think you should rephrase that to 15 things we should never have to say to a government or political leader. Or things we must demand no government or leader ever do.
George Carlin would do a routine about this. But it would be 45 minutes of OUTRAGE with a very thin veneer of humor. Extremely tenuous, less than a facade.
And we know that nowadays it would never be allowed on corporate media, or even some social media. We've been gradually moving into fascism and heavy censorship (in the guise of "not offending" any group), and many people apparently don't notice this.
It's a VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE, & I don't think that most people are aware of this. AND some groups aren't aware of this or are willfully ignorant of it unless it gets them in the wallet ( See Wokeism on steroids & media. It sometimes backfires. ).
The Israeli government has long been known to be barbaric, just like it’s lapdog US government. In truth all humans can be barbaric. Once upon a time we showed signs of being civilized, but those days are gone.
16. Don't insert yourself into other Country's affairs when you are an island nation and it has nothing to do with you or your own 'security'.
Grandma Hess always said, "If Philip would just tend to Philip, he would have his hands SO FULL, he wouldn't have a moment to concern himself with what anyone else is doing."
Israel has being doing all that for YEARS now if not DECADES.
And Israel’s chief enabler, the US has been doing many of those things too including even drone-executing children as a form of collective punishment.
Kids
https://www.aclu.org/video/aclu-ccr-lawsuit-american-boy-killed-us-drone-strike
Residential area
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/29/asia/afghanistan-kabul-evacuation-intl/index.html
Hopsitals
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36174047
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/stories/brussels052199.htm
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/07/a-short-history-of-u-s-bombing-of-civilian-facilities/
My favorite incident(s) from our "war on terror" was when we delibrately targetted hospitals with Doctors Without Borders- multiple times. Even used a C-130 gunship.
War OF terror.
This came to mind, my friend. James Tiberius Kirk & Spock Cha'Sarek on the Klingons from Star Trek : The Undiscovered Country -
Spock : Jim, they are dying.
Kirk : Let them DIE.
Chilling how critical thinking gets jammed into a trunk on such occasions.
Longer than the US Army did it to native Americans?
Would you like to rephrase that into cogent form?
You're grotesque.
Steve Shives has a podcast, several, in fact. He deals with subjects like this. Youtube. Look him up. Tell him Dr. Dan sent ya.
The BIA took over the job from the US Army.
You're a fucking troll. Go cheer on the Ukrainian Nazis on some other thread. Let Joe Biden grope your daughter. You'll feel more at home
You are just the newest jackass I am ignoring, henceforth.
Don't be lazy Ernesto. What is the BIA?
The CIA has always needed as many proxies as it could recruit.
Bureau of Indian Affairs
This is true Ernesto BUT it does NO mean all Israelis think Net. is good.
How do you KNOW?
Where?
....and who gets all the refugees.
We now have American refugees clamouring to come to Europe!
And - neither Israel nor the US gives an aerial intercourse about what the rest of us think regarding those fifteen things. In fact, I get the feeling they are points of pride, with a soupçon of irritation over bad press and possible election fallout.
Found a new context for the slogan “Never Again”. It’s for the unrelenting mind-blowing atrocities of the despicable Zion state against the helpless Palestinians. Hope this energizes the non-Western useless speechifying to action!! “ Never Again”. Let’s remind Israel of how that feels!
Exactly right.
While I'm aware that this comment opens me up to all sorts of rebound hatred, it naturally flows from psychological logic, reinforced by certain videos of mass support for IDF actions by groups of Israeli citizens (and their US Zionist counterparts) I begin to think that the collective scars of the European holocaust were/are so deep and pervasive in the Zionist psyche of Israeli society that the ultimate outcome is a society trapped in a mass psychosis of self-justifiable torture and murder. and when I hear that "Israel has a right to defend itself", I quickly morph that thought to: If that mass psychosis is real, Israel doesn't even have a right to exist as an equal partner among nations. And then, to be fair, I must apply that same metric to my own country, the good ol' US of A. But that latter thought has been with me for decades now.
I'd say that the way to make any group of humans into roaring assholes is to give them unlimited rights and no responsibilities.
As I just posted, they think that they have a GOLDEN TICKET from God ( which one ? )
I suspect they generally don’t believe that but use it as an excuse. Many use religion to justify atrocities to weaker minds
Conquistadors, missionaries, slave owners, people who passed out diseased blankets on Native American reservations..... AND it's mainly monotheistic religions.
"it's mainly monotheistic religions."
It's clear to me that the Abrahamic tradition of Eye-of-Sauron monster gods is the Mother of all Psy-Ops. Absolutely nothing compares to its psychic power, even after the rather withering onslaught of the half-millenium Enlightenment.
They have quite a vice grip on most Western cultures. I ENVY Europe because Thoth bless them ( ! ) they're pursuing a secular mindset / way of life. They are shaking the shackles of archaic belief systems. That isn't a SMALL ACHIEVEMENT. The 1st sentient AI will question most human belief systems, as will any possible ETs whose attention is attracted to us, for some reason.
I should've also mentioned the deep psychosis entailed in the Hannibal directive by which Israel kills its own to sustain some twisted pieces of veneer to its policies. Well covered by Max Blumenthal in a Hedges interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gECjlpXF8
and in a Grayzone piece.
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
Not only Jews were holocausted in Nazi Germany, but many Germans too: communists, socialists, alcoholics, the disabled, gypsies, vagabonds, gay, Jehova's Witnesses, other Christians, feminists, intellectuals, artists, musicians...the collective scars of the holocaust are so deep in Germany's and Europe's psyche, that even the word "nation" should be forbidden.
What do those crimes against outcasts have to do with nationhood, and needing to forbid it? This is a very strange POV to me. I think that at the beginning of the French Revolution they had it right: Liberty (Rightism), Equality (Leftism), and Fraternity (at root, shared identity as a people).
None of these, or any other, components of a nation, properly constituted -- yes, including "communists, socialists, alcoholics, the disabled, gypsies, vagabonds, gay, Jehova's Witnesses, other Christians, feminists", etc. etc. -- need be exiled. To foment do so is a perversion of idea of "Fraternite".
But then, it was Marx that began setting internal components of nation at (supposed necessary) war -- no longer negotiation -- with each other, and the rest has been a very sorry history.
Cher citoyen! If there is a nation, it would be defined by identity. The 'outcasts' were not outcast at all, but they provided identity: the markets, the music, books, art, language, religion. After the holocaust, culture was kitsch. False identity for everyone.
National borders however, are traditionally made by militarists. A real national identity has fractal borders like an island: the more you zoom in, the longer is its coastline. The coastline paradox. Israel has a fractal Palestine inside of it, besides kibbuzim, and are these not communist?
I don't understand what you say about Marx.
"I don't understand what you say about Marx."
"Workers of the world, unite!" was a *war* cry. And with it, Marx hijacked Leftism. Leftism is about democracy (the "egalite" AND "fraternite" parts of the French motto) at its most fundamental. Democracy requires eternal, open-minded fluidity in politics, not rigid dogma.
Marx likes to speak of alienation. However, for him alienation (in the relatively new industrialization) not only occurs (explicitly) in the divorce of product from use. It also occurs (implicitly) in the fact that the parties -- worker and owner -- to the crime of property alienation were *themselves* alienated from each other. The destruction of national fraternity led to a "crystalized" alienation of citizen from citizen.
The latter didn't have to occur. But, IMO, Marxists *wanted* it to occur, to create an army of the powerless under their thumbs. This was implemented eventually under Lenin and his vanguards, and we all know how that cry of "power to the people" worked out, not only in Russia, but as well in nearly *all* similar efforts of the twentieth century. That's what happens when you foment a war and create a power vacuum without explaining what you're doing. "Oh, wow, *we* the vanguard will fill that vacuum! Don't worry your pretty little heads over it, soldiers-slash-worker bees!"
Now, since roughly the 50s, when the population of unherdable class-cats (that is, who migrate between classes) started going out of fashion, this so-called "Left" have the bright idea of separating people not by mutable characteristics (class), but by *immutable* ones (all the embedded identities of humans), whipped up and organized by the vanguard inheritors of Marxism. Does this sound like a way to "bring people together"?
Any diatribe about Marx that does not even mention capitalism or economic class is either incredibly ignorant or based on anti-Marxist propaganda, and not even well done propaganda at that.
"alienation ... in the divorce of product from use" [I should have said "production" here]
"worker and owner"
"unherdable class-cats (that is, who migrate between classes)"
i.e. Did I not identify that there are problems with class? There's not a lot one can cover in a handful of paragraphs -- especially when pointing out a different problem.
So, what are some great new insights about class today, that will be just the trick to turn the world around to an actually *viable* solution? Hint: We Leftists are barking up the wrong tree. We need to figure out better how societies actually work. If Marx himself actually understood, then we have to ask about his motives.
Just because Marx identified class (and eloquently) didn't mean he knew what to do about it. We in the 21st century have the great advantage of seeing what happened when his followers attempted to implement a revolt, and *dozens* of times. In my opinion, this is in large part based on a rigid *war* attitude, of implacable us-vs.-them, my team right or wrong, and of fight-to-the-death. It is this same war mindset that infects modern societies to this day. Made sense, maybe, in existential confrontations between hunter-gatherer bands tens and hundreds of thousands of years ago. But the only war needed *today* is to quarantine sociopaths/psychopaths -- they're the true enemies of society, and they're found everywhere. We need to put our thinking caps on.
So, it's past high time to step out of this box. I'd like to recognize that Leftism (social fairness), Rightism (individualist freedom), and Nationhood (societal belonging) are all pieces of the same puzzle of how to run a society.
"shared identity as a people"
I mean that as in geographic -- and in consequence, language, culture, etc. -- realms, where it has been natural and near-universal for a very long time. That is, since the dawn of agriculture. But where that goes awry, then, it seems, there can be problems.
TRIBALISM is a mindset in which NO ONE is a complete winner, one group loses territory, the other loses ethics / morals & soul, it crumbles away.
Oh yeah, defend yourself in the back pocket of the sugar daddy USA!!! Sniveling cowardice!!!
As a moral argument, I think you have a point. As a practical argument, it’s not practical to go back in time. Some things can’t be undone and now you have a moral and practical conundrum. Both have a right to exist now regardless of history and both have innocent people to consider in a resolution
No. They most certainly do NOT have a right to exist and they never did. This is like arguing that Nazi Germany should have a right to exist since they existed in the 1930s. Da fuk is wrong with you. Israel hasn't existed since 322 BC when Alexander the Great eliminated them. Fuck that idea. It's psychotic and delusional.
A fallacy on par with THIS GEM : " America has always been a Christian nation ". How were we Christian before the arrival of Europeans, pray tell ?
‘Da fuck’ do you propose that doesn’t involve a Jewish genocide?
"Da Fuk" can't you see that Israel is committing a genocide right fucking now. That's not "defense". You're like arguing that Hitler, or any other mass-murdering dictatorial monster just "had to do what he had to do" or else they'd be defeated. Are you abjectly stupid, or just evil? Humans have been forced to get along RATHER THAN SLAUGHTER EACH OTHER for fucking ever. And if the Israelis get slaughtered, guess whose fault that will be -- THEIR OWN. The Palestinians let them migrate there is the 40's, sympathetic to their suffering in the Holocaust, then the fucking "Israelis" turned the tables on them, as if they had learned from Hitler's techniques rather than decided to condemn them forever as the rest of the world had. The Israelis are the new Reich. They are literally fascists and Nazis; hell, Albert Einstein even called them out on that. So you can take your Nazi-apologia and GTFO of here.
They should have listed to Einstein and his other Jewish friends who wrote the following typo the NYT decades ago:
https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948
I don't think Palestinians had any say in the matter.
You didn’t answer my question
Answer your own question you lying piece of shit. "Israel" started this and they can end it. "Israel" can either work for peace or they can get DESTROYED. Or are you so stupid and/or indoctrinated that you can't see this. You're arguing that Hitler had to keep going or else he'd get wiped out. Well guess what, wiping out Hitler was the only way to end it. Sadly, Nazis were imported into the US after the war, and that shit lives on, both in the US and "Israel". It's time to truly wipe out Nazism.
Evangelicals are cheerleading it, if not spearheading it themselves.
My question is: When do these horrific acts become War Crimes and who will do anything about it?
Well, the answer to the first part of your question is "When they are done by Putin".
Putin doesn't even have to do anything to commit war crimes.
Because Muh Rules-Based International Order.
Putin does exactly what the Duma tells him to do.
Troll
Ha.
Right on Mike.
exactly so. Bucha, Snake Island russians raping babies---all bullshit.
They became war crimes with the signing of the Geneva Convention on August 12, 1949.
But as someone pointed out, in order for this operation to be a war, Hamas would need to have an actual military. They are not at war against another's army, they are leveling a neighborhood where 2.2 million people live.
Trudeau has just been charged with supporting genocide by the ICC.
The Corpse-in-chief is next.
Good name. I doubt it US never gets charged with anything!
Not in our lifetimes.
Only when world power is multipolar (I.e decentralized) and finally recognizing that it’s better to collaborate as a species, share resources, and still compete with each other fairly and humanely. The first will force treaties that have teeth
Not going to happen sad to say. Rich people would never agree.
It’s already happening and you’re right, rich people are trying to stop that by using poor countries and poor people for destabilizing wars. They don’t want stable competition
Makes one wonder just who are the “human animals”. Oh let’s change that to “monsters”; ANIMALS are much better humans than the current IsraHelli crop of insane murderers.
In the meanwhile, THANK YOU 🇧🇿 BELIZE for severing all ties with the apartheid quasi-nation!
Thank you. Yes, I hate it when people, who are the most destructive and vicious sentient beings on the planet, project their own hatefulness and evil onto animals. Gimme a break! If people "acted like animals" in reality, none of this would be happening.
Animals ( or four-legged sentient beings, as I prefer to call them) do not commit crimes, wage war, or find pleasure in killing.
I saw a recent video that broke my heart. Two kittens in Gaza were huddled against a wall, clutching each other as bombs rattled the background. These kittens deserve to live far more than any IsraHelli “soldier”!
Bonobos are also genetically similar primates (to us and chimps) who live peacefully and cooperate with others. Humans are capable of choosing peaceful, cooperative behavior.
Couldn't agree more! :)
Still doesn't compare to the depravity of many humans. Not by a long shot.
Ireland. and Turkey too.
Israel is monstrously evil.
I think this is not true. Israelis were protesting in the streets before all this happened, against Netanyahu.
I believe they protesting against Netanyahu and his right wing Govt. Plus they know he wants to dismantle the Justice system. He is basically trying to keep out of prison for many nefarious dealings.
I also don't think the average Israeli likes the fact that a lot of his Govt. are Orthodox Jews.
I heard an interview with a friend of a Canadian/Jewish human rights worker who died on October 7. She was devastated that her friend had died and also disgusted with Netanyahu's response as she felt her friend would have been as well.
I think they are against the onslaught. Most people want to live without fear this includes probably a huge bunch of Israelis.
Can you HEAR me. They were against Net. who started this catastrophe. He has been in power now for what 17yrs?
He did nothing about the settlers/tried to change the Court system etc.
He and his right wing Orthodox Jews are the ones you should be angry with.
You did not read correctly and I know it's difficult.
They are against the current conflict (use your brain)!
What is OP?
Many people in Israel do not like Netanyahu.
Why? Because Net. has been indicted on many crimes. He is trying to stay out of prison. He also wanted to change the Judiciary the Israeli people were against this.
Do you know about Orthodox Jews? If you don't then take the time to look it up before you make stupid comments.
I suggest you do not make comments here until you take the time to look up and read about Israel!
Not sure but they certainly don't like Netanyahu and the Orthodox Jews who sit at home producing more and more children using women as breeding machines and don't have to fight wars.
if they want to protest in support of the Palestinians, they will be arrested. It is illegal in Israel. In Germany too, it seems.
I have to say one thing about Germany.
Please try and put yourselves in their shoes.
Most of the people living there now were not alive during the Holocaust. They know full well what happened and what was done.
I don't think it is the German people making it illegal to support Palestine any more than it is the people of Israel making it illegal there. The holocaust left scars on many people, worse for those in Germany and Poland. It left scars on the people of the world. The present (and maybe the past) leaders of the world seem to have learned nothing from it.
Don't you know ? God ( or a reasonable facsimile ) just looks the OTHER WAY when Israel does something unimaginably abominable that attracts global attention & outrage. They THINK that they've gotten a big golden ticket.
Property values take a BIG HIT. Literally. I'm trying to use minimal spoonfulls of humor to deal with a HORRIBLE, EVIL situation. I may succeed, I may fail abysmally.
Fighting fire with Lakes Erie & Ontario. It could happen.
Did they ask PERMISSION 1st ? Politeness is practically an Article of Faith there. Except during traffic - related situations, so I hear.
HORSE DIARRHEA !
I think we also have to look at our own countries. Lowkey is revealing how many British tech and surveillance companies are owned by Israel and how linked our secret services are. Our media and politicians are being funded by friends of Israel.
The same went for the covid policies directed by pharma. And the subsidies and abandonment of greeen policies directed by animal ag and oil.
From Israel 's perspective, there is only one thing- don't face consequences.
Nothing to see here, folks, just wounded Palestinians & Palestinian corpses, some almost intact.
40 reasons why the IDF is the Most Moral Army in the World™
https://open.substack.com/pub/palestinewillbefree/p/40-reasons-why-the-idf-is-the-most?r=1e2s2&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Your points are well taken. They apply even more forcefully to American foreign policy: 2015 Afghanistan, US fighter jets bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital killing 42. . . But that's not even the beginning. US sanctions in Iraq killed 500,000 children. Asked if it was worth it Madeleine Albright replied "I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it." Let us recall that Iraq had done nothing, nada, to us. Bush II just wanted a long war. But then of course there's Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh, their George Washington, overthrew the brutal French colonial forces. So we killed ~5 Million of them (excluding collateral mayhem throughout that peninsula). And they more than 50,000 of us; a 100 to 1 kill ratio.
The lesson that we must now embrace is that inhumanity anywhere is a threat to all humanity. Mother Earth has not the resources to sustain our lives much longer if we continue to kill each other and rape her.
What I see as the minimal useful action for the US:
–- Constitutional Reset 2024 ---
Supreme Court Crushing OUR Rights Take Back the Court - A3S1:
Judges shall serve on good Behaviour Ergo, shall be fired on bad Behaviour
Revoke False Precedents
-$s are not Speech nor Corps people-
That rot bred present fascism!
The Fix: Public Funding of Elections
$200 Voter Vouchers - Nothing Else!
DC will work for us & our children:
-Tackle Climate Chaos at Scale-CO2e Tax $400/ton Funding UBI
-Market Forces Drive Solar/Wind
-Initial UBI ~$1,000/month
WWII Level Funding, Taxes, Effort
-42% GDP = 8T$/yr for 5 years
-95% Max TaxRate over 4M$/yr
-Gift Solar to US & Global South
Why? Gotta Save the Whole World
Make Friends, Not War
DC will pass: iM4A, Union Rights, $25 Min Wage tied to productivity, Free pre-K through University,...
I am Tom@TomWellsForCongress.com
No thanks! to a lot of that list.
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America spends more money on education than most other country's.
It's how the teaching is done not money.
I think you should rephrase that to 15 things we should never have to say to a government or political leader. Or things we must demand no government or leader ever do.
George Carlin would do a routine about this. But it would be 45 minutes of OUTRAGE with a very thin veneer of humor. Extremely tenuous, less than a facade.
And we know that nowadays it would never be allowed on corporate media, or even some social media. We've been gradually moving into fascism and heavy censorship (in the guise of "not offending" any group), and many people apparently don't notice this.
It's a VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE, & I don't think that most people are aware of this. AND some groups aren't aware of this or are willfully ignorant of it unless it gets them in the wallet ( See Wokeism on steroids & media. It sometimes backfires. ).
We ARE WINNING the battle for human hearts! Keep writing and sharing 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽
The Israeli government has long been known to be barbaric, just like it’s lapdog US government. In truth all humans can be barbaric. Once upon a time we showed signs of being civilized, but those days are gone.
You missed don't kill people by running them over with a bulldozer as they did Rachel Corrie.
Dead bodies don't have rights.
Yes the Rachel Corrie atrocity is when I realized how satanically evil and disgusting this fake nation is.
It isn't any more fake than a democratic America.
16. Don't insert yourself into other Country's affairs when you are an island nation and it has nothing to do with you or your own 'security'.
Grandma Hess always said, "If Philip would just tend to Philip, he would have his hands SO FULL, he wouldn't have a moment to concern himself with what anyone else is doing."
yes, and Israel is our security, weapons and drug labs before we roll things out domestically.