I will—how about making them live in one state where all rights and duties are shared by all citizens with a real constitution (Israel doesn’t have one) and is a protectorate of the UN outside the security council. Wipe “Israel” off the map just as we should pull down all the confederate statues put up in the 1920’s and claimed as “heritage” by the murderous South.
This makes sense. In some history books there would be a map, sometimes several. A map of Israel would call the region " Palestine ". We should make that a reality AGAIN.
Ha! ‘Make them’? Meet the new boss…same as the old boss. We shouldn’t use authoritarian or fascistic methods to counter authoritarian and fascistic behaviors. I also don’t believe in knocking down statues but that’s another debate. I love the idea of a secular Israel with equal rights, democratic process. Of course Jews might fear they would be quickly voted out by a larger Muslim population and then become the reverse problem. Tough nut to crack.
Make them the same way everyone gets made—economic pressure. And try to remember that you are not the last word on what will happen. With Russia and China in the UN and BRICS+ growing daily, with the Saudi’s diplomatically joined to Iran, and Azerbaijan beavering away at solutions with India, the entire world is taking on Israel and incidentally US. We’ll both be lucky to survive, especially if we don’t change and change soon.
Getting rid of statues that CELEBRATE horrible criminals is not "erasing" history. It is, instead, realizing we shouldn't celebrate horrible criminals. Where are the statues of Hitler and Goebbels in Germany?
That’s not true in your case. Your “learning” consists of fraudulently arguing that putting up confederate statues in the 1920’s to intimidate the Black population in the South while the senile Wilson watched “Birth of a Nation” in the WH is somehow history. It’s not. It’s propaganda, and defending it shows a staggering lack of both analysis and intelligence on your part. I don’t have to be any kind of police to say “who cares what a dupe asserts on this thread.” Moreover, it’s only illegal because the KKK says it is, it’s obviously NOT counterproductive or the fascists wouldn’t be fighting it so hard and you are a small minded ignoramus who has learned nothing from the history you purport to defend.
I’m pretty sure most of the population is NOT with you on this and I don’t believe we’re fascist. There’s a right way to handle these things. You don’t get to decide that right way unilaterally. It’s counter productive for the same reasons mob riots that destroy businesses are counterproductive. It’s divisive. You’re a tool for the oligarchs who are happy when the population is divided and pointing anger at ash other. You hurt the cause. I think we call your type ‘useful idiots’
No. As Scott Ritter said recently, Israel has to accept a two-state solution or else the result will be a one-state solution, and the one state will NOT be Israel. Which would actually be the best outcome. "Israel" has made its choices and has proved to the world that it cannot play well with others, it is a mass-murdering racist psychotic nasty little country, and it's beyond ever rehabilitating itself. It's gotta go, and it's gonna go. It doesn't have a "right to exist" anyway, it hasn't been a country since 322 BC when Alexander the Great conquered it. Fuck "Israel".
I will—how about making them live in one state where all rights and duties are shared by all citizens with a real constitution (Israel doesn’t have one) and is a protectorate of the UN outside the security council. Wipe “Israel” off the map just as we should pull down all the confederate statues put up in the 1920’s and claimed as “heritage” by the murderous South.
This makes sense. In some history books there would be a map, sometimes several. A map of Israel would call the region " Palestine ". We should make that a reality AGAIN.
Ha! ‘Make them’? Meet the new boss…same as the old boss. We shouldn’t use authoritarian or fascistic methods to counter authoritarian and fascistic behaviors. I also don’t believe in knocking down statues but that’s another debate. I love the idea of a secular Israel with equal rights, democratic process. Of course Jews might fear they would be quickly voted out by a larger Muslim population and then become the reverse problem. Tough nut to crack.
Make them the same way everyone gets made—economic pressure. And try to remember that you are not the last word on what will happen. With Russia and China in the UN and BRICS+ growing daily, with the Saudi’s diplomatically joined to Iran, and Azerbaijan beavering away at solutions with India, the entire world is taking on Israel and incidentally US. We’ll both be lucky to survive, especially if we don’t change and change soon.
And really who cares if you don’t believe in knocking down fascist confederate statues?
I care because it’s counter productive, illegal, and who anointed you the social police anyway? We learn from history. We don’t erase it.
Getting rid of statues that CELEBRATE horrible criminals is not "erasing" history. It is, instead, realizing we shouldn't celebrate horrible criminals. Where are the statues of Hitler and Goebbels in Germany?
That’s not true in your case. Your “learning” consists of fraudulently arguing that putting up confederate statues in the 1920’s to intimidate the Black population in the South while the senile Wilson watched “Birth of a Nation” in the WH is somehow history. It’s not. It’s propaganda, and defending it shows a staggering lack of both analysis and intelligence on your part. I don’t have to be any kind of police to say “who cares what a dupe asserts on this thread.” Moreover, it’s only illegal because the KKK says it is, it’s obviously NOT counterproductive or the fascists wouldn’t be fighting it so hard and you are a small minded ignoramus who has learned nothing from the history you purport to defend.
I’m pretty sure most of the population is NOT with you on this and I don’t believe we’re fascist. There’s a right way to handle these things. You don’t get to decide that right way unilaterally. It’s counter productive for the same reasons mob riots that destroy businesses are counterproductive. It’s divisive. You’re a tool for the oligarchs who are happy when the population is divided and pointing anger at ash other. You hurt the cause. I think we call your type ‘useful idiots’
No. As Scott Ritter said recently, Israel has to accept a two-state solution or else the result will be a one-state solution, and the one state will NOT be Israel. Which would actually be the best outcome. "Israel" has made its choices and has proved to the world that it cannot play well with others, it is a mass-murdering racist psychotic nasty little country, and it's beyond ever rehabilitating itself. It's gotta go, and it's gonna go. It doesn't have a "right to exist" anyway, it hasn't been a country since 322 BC when Alexander the Great conquered it. Fuck "Israel".