As a moral argument, I think you have a point. As a practical argument, it’s not practical to go back in time. Some things can’t be undone and now you have a moral and practical conundrum. Both have a right to exist now regardless of history and both have innocent people to consider in a resolution
No. They most certainly do NOT have a right to exist and they never did. This is like arguing that Nazi Germany should have a right to exist since they existed in the 1930s. Da fuk is wrong with you. Israel hasn't existed since 322 BC when Alexander the Great eliminated them. Fuck that idea. It's psychotic and delusional.
"Da Fuk" can't you see that Israel is committing a genocide right fucking now. That's not "defense". You're like arguing that Hitler, or any other mass-murdering dictatorial monster just "had to do what he had to do" or else they'd be defeated. Are you abjectly stupid, or just evil? Humans have been forced to get along RATHER THAN SLAUGHTER EACH OTHER for fucking ever. And if the Israelis get slaughtered, guess whose fault that will be -- THEIR OWN. The Palestinians let them migrate there is the 40's, sympathetic to their suffering in the Holocaust, then the fucking "Israelis" turned the tables on them, as if they had learned from Hitler's techniques rather than decided to condemn them forever as the rest of the world had. The Israelis are the new Reich. They are literally fascists and Nazis; hell, Albert Einstein even called them out on that. So you can take your Nazi-apologia and GTFO of here.
They should have listed to Einstein and his other Jewish friends who wrote the following typo the NYT decades ago:
Answer your own question you lying piece of shit. "Israel" started this and they can end it. "Israel" can either work for peace or they can get DESTROYED. Or are you so stupid and/or indoctrinated that you can't see this. You're arguing that Hitler had to keep going or else he'd get wiped out. Well guess what, wiping out Hitler was the only way to end it. Sadly, Nazis were imported into the US after the war, and that shit lives on, both in the US and "Israel". It's time to truly wipe out Nazism.
I can feel your anger. So, I don’t think I’m stupid or evil. In fact I consider myself a humanitarian and only see peace through negotiation led by objective and smart intermediaries (cooler heads). The Zionist far right racists lob the same insults when challenged just like you’re doing. You didn’t answer my question and further to it, how do we stop a cycle of violence by using violence? My opinion is rational people need to stop it because this is running on emotion and it’s understandable
I will—how about making them live in one state where all rights and duties are shared by all citizens with a real constitution (Israel doesn’t have one) and is a protectorate of the UN outside the security council. Wipe “Israel” off the map just as we should pull down all the confederate statues put up in the 1920’s and claimed as “heritage” by the murderous South.
This makes sense. In some history books there would be a map, sometimes several. A map of Israel would call the region " Palestine ". We should make that a reality AGAIN.
Ha! ‘Make them’? Meet the new boss…same as the old boss. We shouldn’t use authoritarian or fascistic methods to counter authoritarian and fascistic behaviors. I also don’t believe in knocking down statues but that’s another debate. I love the idea of a secular Israel with equal rights, democratic process. Of course Jews might fear they would be quickly voted out by a larger Muslim population and then become the reverse problem. Tough nut to crack.
As a moral argument, I think you have a point. As a practical argument, it’s not practical to go back in time. Some things can’t be undone and now you have a moral and practical conundrum. Both have a right to exist now regardless of history and both have innocent people to consider in a resolution
No. They most certainly do NOT have a right to exist and they never did. This is like arguing that Nazi Germany should have a right to exist since they existed in the 1930s. Da fuk is wrong with you. Israel hasn't existed since 322 BC when Alexander the Great eliminated them. Fuck that idea. It's psychotic and delusional.
A fallacy on par with THIS GEM : " America has always been a Christian nation ". How were we Christian before the arrival of Europeans, pray tell ?
‘Da fuck’ do you propose that doesn’t involve a Jewish genocide?
"Da Fuk" can't you see that Israel is committing a genocide right fucking now. That's not "defense". You're like arguing that Hitler, or any other mass-murdering dictatorial monster just "had to do what he had to do" or else they'd be defeated. Are you abjectly stupid, or just evil? Humans have been forced to get along RATHER THAN SLAUGHTER EACH OTHER for fucking ever. And if the Israelis get slaughtered, guess whose fault that will be -- THEIR OWN. The Palestinians let them migrate there is the 40's, sympathetic to their suffering in the Holocaust, then the fucking "Israelis" turned the tables on them, as if they had learned from Hitler's techniques rather than decided to condemn them forever as the rest of the world had. The Israelis are the new Reich. They are literally fascists and Nazis; hell, Albert Einstein even called them out on that. So you can take your Nazi-apologia and GTFO of here.
They should have listed to Einstein and his other Jewish friends who wrote the following typo the NYT decades ago:
https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948
I don't think Palestinians had any say in the matter.
You didn’t answer my question
Answer your own question you lying piece of shit. "Israel" started this and they can end it. "Israel" can either work for peace or they can get DESTROYED. Or are you so stupid and/or indoctrinated that you can't see this. You're arguing that Hitler had to keep going or else he'd get wiped out. Well guess what, wiping out Hitler was the only way to end it. Sadly, Nazis were imported into the US after the war, and that shit lives on, both in the US and "Israel". It's time to truly wipe out Nazism.
I can feel your anger. So, I don’t think I’m stupid or evil. In fact I consider myself a humanitarian and only see peace through negotiation led by objective and smart intermediaries (cooler heads). The Zionist far right racists lob the same insults when challenged just like you’re doing. You didn’t answer my question and further to it, how do we stop a cycle of violence by using violence? My opinion is rational people need to stop it because this is running on emotion and it’s understandable
I will—how about making them live in one state where all rights and duties are shared by all citizens with a real constitution (Israel doesn’t have one) and is a protectorate of the UN outside the security council. Wipe “Israel” off the map just as we should pull down all the confederate statues put up in the 1920’s and claimed as “heritage” by the murderous South.
This makes sense. In some history books there would be a map, sometimes several. A map of Israel would call the region " Palestine ". We should make that a reality AGAIN.
Ha! ‘Make them’? Meet the new boss…same as the old boss. We shouldn’t use authoritarian or fascistic methods to counter authoritarian and fascistic behaviors. I also don’t believe in knocking down statues but that’s another debate. I love the idea of a secular Israel with equal rights, democratic process. Of course Jews might fear they would be quickly voted out by a larger Muslim population and then become the reverse problem. Tough nut to crack.
Who is conferring this “right” anyway? Some god, some pope, some military, some self-righteous mofo?
Evangelicals are cheerleading it, if not spearheading it themselves.