Anyone remember the Kuwaiti Baby Incubators ZOMG from the run up to the first Gulf War?
The story was a total lie, and the supposed eyewitness was the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador, but the news networks sort of glossed over that little detail and ran with it hard.
By the time the lie was comprehensively debunked, the neocons had already gotten the war they so craved.
Similarly the lies about Saddam's supposed WMDs and involvement in 9/11. Another lie, again exposed only after it no longer mattered..
Or the Libyan rape rooms. Or the Syrian poison gas attacks. All lies. But the very real truth of the Yemeni genocide is memory-holed, because it doesn't suit the Empire at the moment.
EDIT: what amazes me is that humans fall for it, over and over again.
The 9/11 conspiracy is that it was done to justify war in the middle east and I believe that reasoning. The minute this war started I said the same thing, the Hamas attack made no sense for anyone except Israel and the US. A simple plan: the intelligence agencies move their mercenaries from Syria to Gaza and execute the Hamas attack. Hamas and Palestine celebrate thinking someone is trying to liberate them. Israel gets the justification it needs to commit genocide in Gaza which they have embraced with gusto. The US gets its justification for war with Iran and Syria which it has wanted for decades.
Is it really so far fetched that governments would sacrifice their own people to advance their geopolitical ambitions ?
I heard that Egypt warned Israel 2/3 days before the attack (whether this is true or not I don't know) if it is then in my opinion Israel waited for it to happen then pounced on the Palestinians. Now we expect nothing but the annihilation of the Palestinian people and more war from the US. To my mind Biden and Netanyahu are
I agree, Hamas seems to have been surprised at their success so either this shows an Israeli awareness it was coming and complicity or the exact opposite; that Israelis were very unprepared and complacent, which seems the more unlikely.
Isn't it also quite likely that there are CIA or Israeli agents in Hamas itself? The attack and the supposed glee seems to only make sense in this light. Surely Hamas would know what their actions would cause and what was in store for Palestinian civilians.
IRA bombers were indeed reportedly delighted when their operations were a success but they didn't have the certainty that the reprisals against the Irish would be the equivalent of the war on Terror. Imagine if the British, with the full support of the West, had responded to the mainland IRA bombings by barricading the Irish and their children in a small area so they couldn’t leave by land, air or sea, cutting off their water and electricity and bombing 200 civilian targets by night?
There was a very informative interview on Useful Idiots a day or so ago that mentioned, for the first time I can recall, that there are other armed militants in Gaza who are not part of Hamas. If so, one might well wonder what those folks could have been doing when suddenly the doors to the prison were opened.
We have to remember who are the big winners. Yes the Empire gets its wish of an excuse for a war on the infidel and petrol rich countries, but who is stirring up the pot, planting those seeds of doubt that the US is no longer top dog, that Uncle Sam is looking tired and sending him into a military rage? Whose share price is going up and up? Who seems to be arming Hamas possibly via Ukraine with America weapons? Could Hamas have been offered them some support?
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“War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society these irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense.”
I disagree - everyone starts off with the belief in the war aims, but over time, when the blood and guts are flying, the ordinary soldiers see the officers for what they are, just jumped up ordinary people, no better than them. Then after the war comes the reckoning with the stupid leaders who allowed it to happen - hence post WW1 women's emancipation & revolutions, WW2 labour governments, the new deal. Will our post WW3 solutions be any better?
Hence pushing the 9/11 trope (complex) is actually not a good idea for the purveyors of death and destruction because it connects to ideas of conspiracy and betrayal by the home authorities -- which may turn out to have some basis in facts.
Exactly. Every single time there is a hint that people are no longer buying the bullshit guess what a war happens! Bidens first request "more money for Ukraine"! I can't believe I am part of the same species.
Well this time it sure seems that one just won't be enough! I would bet the warmongers are like rabid dogs at this point all foaming at the mouth because of all the prospects for wars!
i wondered if the " White Helmets " were there at the time the attack occured. and whether they coordinated with Netanyahu to encourage him to stand down and let it happen, because that is what he did.
The British depicted the Germans as Belgian baby-impaling huns during the First World War; so this atrocity propaganda involving babies is a tradition, at least in the Anglo-World.
Mass society is clinical domestication. Thoughts are "channeled" into their minds. This is why we call them TV channels.. individual critical and abstract thinking is gone and the memory is very short term and perpetually revised through the same channels..
I don't just remember the lies about the Kuwaiti prem babies being thrown on the floor to get the incubators I was in Iraq at that time as part of an international anti war group and already the truth that the woman was a lying placed individual were soon known. And not only was Iraq not involved in 9/11 the event itself was part of the plot to help reshape the world by the controlling US Neocons. The evidence is now clear that while the planes which crashed into two of them did damage the building they were brought down by pre placed explosives . And that is to ignore the fact that Building 7 was destroyed without even having been hit by a plane
As for Syria, I probably don't need to dig up the OPCW report do I? Oh, maybe I should for the others who are not as familiar... first thing tomorrow morning, too late now.
I’m 34 years old, Jewish, and from NY. I was in “conservative” Jewish religious school from preschool till 14, in addition to NY public school from k-college. Conservative in quotes because it is nothing like the American definition of conservative - an analogy to American politics is that they would be considered liberal, and the reformist sect progressive. I don’t “look” Jewish, and I am not a practicing Jew as I have my issues with the Abraham of faiths for many reasons. But Jews are not just a religion but an ethnicity as well - I’m ashkenazi. I’m giving this background information for a reason.
Since I was TEN YEARS OLD I’ve been a supporter of Palestine. What israel has done and continues to do is in my opinion just a recycling of the cycle of abuse they received on behalf of the Germans in the Holocaust. The open aired ghettos, ethnic supremacy, genocidal violence... it’s so obvious to me and it’s been obvious to me since I was fucking 10. I’ve been a Palestinian supporter to great personal blowback - I was nearly excommunicated from my own family for not being pro Israel. Right now I have to be very careful about what I say and how I say it, and I hate that. My mom - 66 years old practicing Jew - is heartbroken. She can’t believe what the world has come to. I have Israeli family friends, and they have relatives in Israel. It’s scary and horrible - innocent people on both sides are going to be the ones paying for this with their lives and limbs, especially the Palestinians.
And that’s the thing. It NEEDS TO BE SCREAMED that 40% of the population of Palestine is under 14. 50% under 18. They’ve been in essentially PRISON for 16 years! They don’t know any other world. They’re trapped. This is a prison outbreak, a slave revolt. It’s not a religious conflict although religious reasons are convenient - it’s a conflict of land and resources brought on by settler colonialism. Thanks Europe! Israel likes to call every operation they do in Palestine as “mowing the grass”. The once genocided are now the genociders.
The general vibe I get from the Jews I know is bomb the Palestinians to the stone ages and eradicate them. They don’t see them as human. They’re literally fucking children. They don’t care if they die - the children of Palestine - because they’re already the living dead.
The brutality is horrible but deserved. What did israel think was going to happen imprisoning children their entire lives? They grow up and become terrorists.
The comparisons to 9/11 are uncanny. Netanyahu was warned a few days prior by the Egyptian prime minister and he did nothing (times of Israel reported this). He is facing major domestic unrest due to his unpopular judicial reforms. How convenient... meanwhile the US/NATO is losing in Ukraine despite the propaganda, and the US would LOVE an excuse to bomb Iran. Hell the neocons are probably having wet dreams over the thought, I immediately thought of how excited John Bolton must be at this latest war. Iran is supplying Russia with equipment for their war in Ukraine. I’m pretty sure we are in the earlier stages of WW3 (starting with Ukraine but maybe even covid if it turns out to be an intentional lab leak - I buy the lab leak theory but err on the side of human error) and the media isn’t reporting it as such because nobody wants a panic.
Really though. 9/11. How did the worlds most powerful intelligence agency in 2023 not see Hamas planning this right under their noses? Those paragliders must of practiced somewhere beforehand, no? I’m in the future “conspiracy theory” camp of Netanyahu and co LET IT HAPPEN. Just like bush at minimum let 9/11 happen so he could have an excuse to attack countries that had nothing to do with it. I don’t see us attacking Saudi Arabia or Yemen who were the majority of the hijackers... in fact the Saudi royals got to leave the US while airspace was closed. How convenient!
I forgot to add, as a Jew, I believe Israel makes the world more dangerous for Jews worldwide - by design, as a feature and not a bug - to encourage more Jews worldwide to make Aaliyah and colonize Israel. And in the US they’re backed by insane evangelical Christians who believe Jesus will return and the rapture commence once Jews all return to Israel. It’s fucking insane. I refused my “birthright” brainwashing “free trip” over it.
I’m glad my father passed back in 2012, he was also a religious Jew and would be absolutely horrified that Nazis walk openly in the streets in America and fill our congress. Unfortunately he too was brainwashed and if he were alive today he’d be calling for genocide of the Palestinians. Luckily my mother is a little more reasonable and feels the same horrible feeling I do despite us being on opposite sides of the issue.
because they essentially don't care what the rest of the world thinks - they think the west supports them, and some sections of the west do. But don't the Israelis realise it's only up the point where they are dropped, like all our former "allies", Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan - all wrecked and abandoned. They will be no different.
"But don't the Israelis realize it's only up the point where they are dropped, like all our former "allies", Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan - all wrecked and abandoned."
I don't know, Chris. They own the media, both mainstream and social. The programming has been going on for decades, and he who controls the message controls the unthinking people, who are still the majority.
I've long suspected they'd pull down the internet as this is the only source of truth for the enlightened. Then we'll be back to ham radios, which have been outlawed in many places.
Remember how Phil Donohue was the top rated show on MSNBC and was pulled for his anti-war coverage? Anyone who deviates from the mainstream narrative is finished. Most viewers are too distracted to care... so their couch potato existence is all they know. Those who attempt to shine the light of truth are branded as conspiracy theorists.
The Toy Story meme comes to mind. But honestly, without sounding ...anti semitic... we are over represented in positions of power, especially the media. I don’t think this is some grand conspiracy like the anti semitics do - I think it’s more so early ethnic success followed by nepotism and who you know and socialize with in - but regardless, whoever controls the narrative has a massive amount of power. Unless the west starts seeing massive losses from supporting Israel I think little will change.
Thanks for your insightful and important comment. And your commitment to justice and truth. THAT should have been the legacy of Jews especially after the Holocaust, and WAS for some. No good can come of injustice and slaughter. I’m afraid it might have been a Mossad-assisted act in the first place, maybe they “let their guard down” or somehow enticed this. Or maybe it was actually Hamas who don’t have universal support in Gaza but HAVE NO CHOICE or vote. Their claim to have called on civilians to leave is a cruel joke and meaningless. All those in power KNOW it’s an open air prison and the PEOPLE can’t escape. Half of them are children who’ve never known freedom.
I try to reach as many as possible to let them distinguish between Zionists, who have perpetrated crimes, and Jews, many of whom have courageously refused to go along with the narrative, at risk to their lives and reputations. Dan Cohen, for example has received death threats from Zionists for his views. Also the Israeli government HAS REFUSED to help the families of the hostages, despite a few (mother and child/children) hostages having been released unconditionally. They say the time has come for “cruelty” – even to their own Jewish citizens!
As for 9/11, look for the video “The New Pearl Harbor” free on YouTube which (without pointing the blame on a specific group) decisively PROVES it was an “inside job” as shown by MANY architects and people who work on buildings as well as scientific principles.
"I believe Israel makes the world more dangerous for Jews worldwide" - that's been the sentiment expressed especially since Israel openly sided with Nazi Ukraine, and not just morally. There are reports - need verification - that big number of Israeli instructors/mercenaries flew back from Ukraine to Israel since this latest thing started.
One reason for that unequivocal moral and practical support is assumed to be the fact that Zelensky and most of his clique - certainly most of Ukrainian oligarchs - are Jews.
So yes, the rise of anti-semitism in the world is guaranteed.
Interesting. Suella Braverman and Sunak are standing with British Jews and reminding the rest of us citizens, though we never even thought of such a thing, not to hate on Jews because of the (inevitable and terrible) retaliation to the Hamas attack.
They don't accidentally drop ideas into our consciousness. They do it on purpose. Now we think, perhaps we should be hating on Jews (who have nothing to do with it) because of what Israel and Zionists do? Perhaps to make all Jews leave?
What is legitimate about vaccines? None have ever worked. None! Please don't even mention Smallpox or Polio as that has been settled long ago. Vaccines are all toxins that bypass the immune system;.
WW2 was not a false flag. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor with suicidal kamikaze pilots, which is well documented. The US stayed out of WW2 for YEARS before they were forced into the war based on that attack. WW2 was IMO the only war in modern history that we should of ever gotten involved in, the only “good” war.
the " usual suspects " we always see behind the wars. and according to Professor Antony C. Sutton, even levels of the German government were involved. hence my own theory that it was a proxy war. read any book from Professor Sutton, if you haven't. Wall st and the Rise of Hitler, Wall st funded the Bolsheviks, Wall st and FDR...all good stuff.
You do know that Hitler and his regime were funded by US Bankers along with Ford Motors and GM etc. This is the real reason the US "stayed out of the war" because there were the usual people MAKING MONEY FROM THE BLOOD OF THE POOR!
EH!!! Wrong answer. the USA armed and financed both sides in WW2. they provided the fuel Japan needed to go almost 4,000 miles to bomb a mostly empty shipyard. and provided the cover story that 6 million Jews were exterminated in camps.
gassed, even though those rooms were not airtight. lots of lies around that. as well as the USA and Britain destroying the vital infrastructure so millions starved to death, and providing the necessary distraction so roughly 5.9 million could eventually emigrate to Palestine. NEXT???😀
It was a horrible situation, enabled by the USA, Britain, France, and even levels of the German government. the Zionists, Wall St., paid for it all. that's been public info for over 40 years. why be mad at me? those people starved to death because the Allies, destroyed the vital infrastructure so no supplies could get in. that's why they died. Zionists enabled the murder of other Jewish people, that is a very ugly truth. who should we really be mad at? because it wasn't all of them, it was a segment of the Heirarchy that decided to go ahead with it. why kill the messenger when you could find this yourself with any simple web search...
Thank you for your post. I wholeheartedly agree with many of the things you stated. I look at this as another excuse for the neocons to start a war with Iran. I’m hearing and following those who have seen and been on the ground in Gaza many times and see how the Palestinians are treated by the Israeli military. It’s horrific. I see Israel committing war crimes and U.S. and EU just give them a pass. Like you said the ones whose people were murdered in the Holocaust are now committing genocide against the Palestinians. I feel for the innocent children the most. The propaganda machine just keeps the lies going just like they did before the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq and so many others. When these lies are debunked it’s usually too late because half the public still believe them and the war machine has already started. I used to be a supporter of Israel, but now I see what’s happening and it’s scary. I can no longer support a government that murders civilians for back in the day I didn’t really know what was going on.
It’s not even the ones harmed in the Holocaust doing this, nearly all of them have died from old age at this point. It’s their children and grandchildren doing it now, who have no first hand experience in the Holocaust but have only heard testimonies from the survivors.
In spite of Israel's tiny size, the much larger and more powerful United States behaves like its vassal state, instead of the other way round. That's because the evangelical right believes that if the U.S. doesn't kiss Israel's ass and support everything it does, God will punish it; all based on an obscure Bible verse, which says: "Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee." ~ Numbers 24:9 KJV
That this lone verse and the book of Revelation have any influence over a nation's foreign policy is insanity. But here we are in 2023.
Thank you for the truth. I would like to add one thing I see and say very many times. The wars for the rich are fought with the blood of the poor. Every time the innocent and poor pay the price. If there is someway to wake all the people who are committing the crime of war to this fact (since unless they are high ranking) they are not from wealth to understand The People They are Killing are the SAME AS THEMSELVES! This separation has some sort of blinder or barrier built in to stop this from happening. We The People of the world ARE BEING USED!! Why do we defend our very oppressors?
The thing is, most people still haven't figured out the level of propaganda that came out after 9/11. Most people still think we went to war in Iraq because they were involved in 9/11 and that restrictions on liberties where necessary to keep us safe.
So good luck trying to discuss nuances with this one in the heat of the moment.
Good luck is right. I’ve been reading and reading, till my eyes hurt. Then till my brain hurt. The narrative was swallowed whole again. But there was an appetite for it. I’m staying well away from any conversation around this. It is as it is, and in the aftermath the rope will need help. Food. Water. Tents. Blankets. Baby food. You know, the luxuries.
Ahh, so the propagandists upgraded, "They threw babies out of incubators" to "Children were beheaded as their mothers were raped." Why not throw in, "And their pets were killed and eaten."
The last sentence is the one that will incense the most Americans.
russian_bot: There is something going on, that's for sure. Maybe the Big Boys know something we don't. e.g. Giant asteroid headed for Earth so eliminate as many people beforehand. Or maybe it's something else.
War makes money and war propaganda gets people riled up and watching CNN again.
Timmy: "Big Boys" proved they know how to stuff their pockets at the expense of everything and everyone else. Other than that they know shit and couldn't care less.
This is true but what’s the relevance? The point is the absolute dehumanization of Palestinians and the desire to create another 9/11 like the one they created in the US – where MANY signs by which I mean actual incidents and connections show us was a Mossad with CIA help operation designed to create public compliance with their designs to demonize Muslims and create a slaughter, for which Israel is significantly motivated more than the US.
In the midst of all discussion of Palestinians and Muslims that is reduced to war, you have placed within the verbal rubble a single instance of normal humanity. For that I weep as I salute you.
Two often heard assertions about the NY Times have certainly been validated over the past week . Open the digital home page and one is greeted by images of rockets supposedly halted by Israel's iron dome or by rubble of Gaza's buildings produced by Israeli bombing. Accompanying headlines tell of atrocities by Hamas, whose fighters are at best "militants", at worst "terrorists", but rarely if ever patriots exercising their rights to armed resistance under international law. Hence: "The Times never met a war it didn't like." And: "The Times never witnessed an action by the IDF that it condemned" are both reinforced assertions about the grand old crook of US pseudo-journalism.
Also note that there’s absolutely no information about Ukraine anymore. I had to dig deep through to find anything at all about the war - on Friday that was not the case, it was still front page news. Convenient considering US/NATO is losing.
It’s disturbing to read comments from the anti-woke crowd (I agree with them on a number of issues by the way) where they reflexively reject any notion of the Israeli apartheid system contributing to what happened on the weekend. The answer to woke-ness is not counter woke-ness, especially if it means supporting the actions of a murderous government like Israel’s
Anti-woke or supporting war by an evil tyrannical regime - I don't see any difference in that comparison in the modern day. The left is all pro war as long as it was Ukrainians dying.
considering "woke" now means supporting hormone modification/genital mutilation of children, racism against whites, and lawfare wielded against those who refuse to use others' "preferred pronouns," I cannot understand why anyone would claim, much less admit, to being woke.
it's pretty easy to voice opinions against both the woke power structure and pro-war genocide/profiteering, and there's no conflict between those anti-positions.
Oh shut up. Hormone blockers were given to children for other health conditions for decades. No children are being “mutilated” except children born intersex who doctors and parents feel they need to “correct” and most males in the US getting their foreskin removed without their consent as infants. Anti white racism?!? LOL. At best there’s prejudice on an individual level. The loss of privilege and white majority is really painful to you apparently. And please tell me more about the “law fare” regarding using the wrong pronouns while trans people are being legally eradicated in much of the idiotic Bible Belt south.
Please show the lies. Hormone blockers have been used for decades for other health conditions in children is a fact. Intersex babies being operated on was a fact, perhaps now hopefully they no longer do it because of the harms inflicted on those children. Male babies are overwhelmingly circumcised in the US, I don’t see them consenting to that! Children are NOT having their parts “mutilated” because they’re trans. Very few trans adults even have bottom surgery due to the expense, pain and uncertainty, and if you have a problem with top surgery then you must have a problem with women getting breast enhancements or reductions, right? Bet not. Regardless, female children are not having top surgery. Any “gender mutilation” surgeries done on children at this point in time are due to health issues outside of gender related issues.
I don’t give a fuck if you think I’m woke. I’m a cisgendered lesbian who’s been PHYSICALLY ATTACKED IN A BATHROOM A DECADE AGO FOR BEING ***PERCEIVED*** AS TRANS. Im not trans, I’m a woman who has a vagina who appears masculine.
Your rhetoric ENDANGERS my life, which is why, in so many words, I’m telling you to go fuck yourself.
As the parent of a child I can say with authority that people, especially in the US, do not give a flying fig about children. People only care about children when children serve their own selfish political purposes or when they can enrich themselves off children. It's why I'm deeply suspicious when anyone says "but what about the CHILDREN?"
So I wasn't surprised when Biden parroted the manipulative lie about decapitated children. I also wouldn't be surprised if the online astroturfers spreading the same lies at the behest of the MIC also likely in real life brag "I hate children".
BuT wHaT aBoUt ThE cHiLdReN they clutch their pearls as they whine about drag queen story time and LGBTQ rights while little children get shot in school, and then they cheer on israel eradicating Palestinians, of whom 50% are under the age 18 and 40% are under the age of 14. They don’t give a flying fuck about children. All they care about is subjugating or eradicating the out group. And their children.
We’re not overpopulated, we have a global wealthy 1% that loves to over consume. Miss me with this eco fascist bullshit. It’s always the third world countries that are “overpopulating” aka pushing out non white babies. It’s never the jet set global elites that are the problem, or how 8 men own more wealth than 8 billion people combined. Nope, oVeRpOpUlAtIoN. Let’s start with eradicating the elites since they’re the over consumers causing the problem.
Humans have fully embraced their inner chimp and kicked their other nearest primate relative, the bonobos, to the curb. The difference in our two nearest relatives approach to life and society could not be greater.
I made youtube mad at me with a comment that Israel would find it much less expensive to stop dropping bunker buster bombs on Gaza and just build some "showers" to herd all the animals into.
I hate the blood lust I see in so many people, against civilians and children.
As for the lies about baby-beheadings, the source and its disseminator have been exposed: an extremist who called for the total eradication of a Palestinian town full of families, who was “giddy” after making these false claims of rape and baby killings and even pet-killings (to arouse the rage of every demographic and secure worldwide support for a MASSACRE), and it was broadcast first on i24 TV, exposed as the personal news network of Netanyahu. Whose govt REFUSED TO TRY AND SAVE or spare HOSTAGES even Hamas was shocked and released a mother and child unconditionally as a gesture of goodwill. Netanyahu’s government does NOT want hostages to live because they might give testimony as to humane treatment by Palestinians which could counter their description of them as “animals.” But had they slaughtered this many animals the Israelis would have risen up in protest. But for the Palestinians NOTHING THEY DO will ever change the determination of Zionists to commit ethnic cleansing. They only worry – a little – about what the world might think and therefore lose support.
Regarding Biden’s lie about viewing photos of decapitated babies, every day that passes without the invocation of the 25th Amendment is a violation of the Constitution.
Clearly—glaringly obviously—Biden is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” I shudder to think of Harris as Acting President, but, in fact, she already formally performed that duty on November 19, 2021 when Biden had a colonoscopy. The 25th Amendment is the remedy for a mentally enfeebled President. Does anyone actually believe that Biden can process the current complexity of the world situation, especially the current unprecedented risk of nuclear war, and make competent policy decisions?
"...every day that passes without the invocation of the 25th Amendment is a violation of the Constitution."
Because Halfwit Joe says the things that people of influence and authority want to hear, even if he is overenthusiastic, like a Jack Russell with rabies.
Anyone remember the Kuwaiti Baby Incubators ZOMG from the run up to the first Gulf War?
The story was a total lie, and the supposed eyewitness was the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador, but the news networks sort of glossed over that little detail and ran with it hard.
By the time the lie was comprehensively debunked, the neocons had already gotten the war they so craved.
Similarly the lies about Saddam's supposed WMDs and involvement in 9/11. Another lie, again exposed only after it no longer mattered..
Or the Libyan rape rooms. Or the Syrian poison gas attacks. All lies. But the very real truth of the Yemeni genocide is memory-holed, because it doesn't suit the Empire at the moment.
EDIT: what amazes me is that humans fall for it, over and over again.
The 9/11 conspiracy is that it was done to justify war in the middle east and I believe that reasoning. The minute this war started I said the same thing, the Hamas attack made no sense for anyone except Israel and the US. A simple plan: the intelligence agencies move their mercenaries from Syria to Gaza and execute the Hamas attack. Hamas and Palestine celebrate thinking someone is trying to liberate them. Israel gets the justification it needs to commit genocide in Gaza which they have embraced with gusto. The US gets its justification for war with Iran and Syria which it has wanted for decades.
Is it really so far fetched that governments would sacrifice their own people to advance their geopolitical ambitions ?
I heard that Egypt warned Israel 2/3 days before the attack (whether this is true or not I don't know) if it is then in my opinion Israel waited for it to happen then pounced on the Palestinians. Now we expect nothing but the annihilation of the Palestinian people and more war from the US. To my mind Biden and Netanyahu are
complicit in war crimes.
It’s true according to the times of Israel they’re the ones that ran the story.
They are all war criminals. And the International Court of Justice ( the irony!), shelters them.
The US is not a member of the International Court! I don't know if the Israelis or the Palestinians are.
I agree, Hamas seems to have been surprised at their success so either this shows an Israeli awareness it was coming and complicity or the exact opposite; that Israelis were very unprepared and complacent, which seems the more unlikely.
Isn't it also quite likely that there are CIA or Israeli agents in Hamas itself? The attack and the supposed glee seems to only make sense in this light. Surely Hamas would know what their actions would cause and what was in store for Palestinian civilians.
IRA bombers were indeed reportedly delighted when their operations were a success but they didn't have the certainty that the reprisals against the Irish would be the equivalent of the war on Terror. Imagine if the British, with the full support of the West, had responded to the mainland IRA bombings by barricading the Irish and their children in a small area so they couldn’t leave by land, air or sea, cutting off their water and electricity and bombing 200 civilian targets by night?
There was a very informative interview on Useful Idiots a day or so ago that mentioned, for the first time I can recall, that there are other armed militants in Gaza who are not part of Hamas. If so, one might well wonder what those folks could have been doing when suddenly the doors to the prison were opened.
It’s not far fetched at all and it’s ISRAELI POLICY to kill their own soldiers less they become prisoners of war. Not even the US is that fucked up.
We have to remember who are the big winners. Yes the Empire gets its wish of an excuse for a war on the infidel and petrol rich countries, but who is stirring up the pot, planting those seeds of doubt that the US is no longer top dog, that Uncle Sam is looking tired and sending him into a military rage? Whose share price is going up and up? Who seems to be arming Hamas possibly via Ukraine with America weapons? Could Hamas have been offered them some support?
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“War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society these irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense.”
— Randolph Bourne
I disagree - everyone starts off with the belief in the war aims, but over time, when the blood and guts are flying, the ordinary soldiers see the officers for what they are, just jumped up ordinary people, no better than them. Then after the war comes the reckoning with the stupid leaders who allowed it to happen - hence post WW1 women's emancipation & revolutions, WW2 labour governments, the new deal. Will our post WW3 solutions be any better?
Hence pushing the 9/11 trope (complex) is actually not a good idea for the purveyors of death and destruction because it connects to ideas of conspiracy and betrayal by the home authorities -- which may turn out to have some basis in facts.
Again, seems oddly intentional.
Exactly. Every single time there is a hint that people are no longer buying the bullshit guess what a war happens! Bidens first request "more money for Ukraine"! I can't believe I am part of the same species.
Every time a US Election comes up a war gets started!
Well this time it sure seems that one just won't be enough! I would bet the warmongers are like rabid dogs at this point all foaming at the mouth because of all the prospects for wars!
“Is it really so far fetched that governments would sacrifice their own people to advance their geopolitical ambitions ?”
No it isn’t so far fetched. they always have sacrificed their own people to advance their ambitions.
i wondered if the " White Helmets " were there at the time the attack occured. and whether they coordinated with Netanyahu to encourage him to stand down and let it happen, because that is what he did.
The British depicted the Germans as Belgian baby-impaling huns during the First World War; so this atrocity propaganda involving babies is a tradition, at least in the Anglo-World.
Oh, very well then:
Lord Posonby's Ten Commandments of War Propaganda
1. We don't want war, we are only defending ourselves!
2. Our adversary is solely responsible for this war!
3. Our adversary's leader is inherently evil and resembles the devil
4. We are defending a noble cause, not our particular interests!
5. The enemy is purposefully committing atrocities; if we are making mistakes this happens without intention
6. The enemy makes use of illegal weapons
7. We suffer few losses, the enemy's losses are considerable
8. Recognized intellectuals and artists support our cause
9. Our cause is sacred
10. Whoever casts doubt on our propaganda helps the enemy and is a traitor
Mind if I borrow these? They're much more interesting and reliable than the 10 Commandments.
They are not mine to lend or retain.
you are definitely correct. and it's already been debunked.
Mass society is clinical domestication. Thoughts are "channeled" into their minds. This is why we call them TV channels.. individual critical and abstract thinking is gone and the memory is very short term and perpetually revised through the same channels..
I don't just remember the lies about the Kuwaiti prem babies being thrown on the floor to get the incubators I was in Iraq at that time as part of an international anti war group and already the truth that the woman was a lying placed individual were soon known. And not only was Iraq not involved in 9/11 the event itself was part of the plot to help reshape the world by the controlling US Neocons. The evidence is now clear that while the planes which crashed into two of them did damage the building they were brought down by pre placed explosives . And that is to ignore the fact that Building 7 was destroyed without even having been hit by a plane
( journalist asks George W. Bush ) so what did Saddam have to do with 9/11?
( Bush replies ) ...nothin'
Here you go: https://youtu.be/yaR1YBR5g6U
As for Syria, I probably don't need to dig up the OPCW report do I? Oh, maybe I should for the others who are not as familiar... first thing tomorrow morning, too late now.
The power of propaganda, some still believe that incubators story.
The power of mob. Didn't we just go through it with "the power of
the vaccinated"? God forbid they stop and think. And then there are
"journalists" and presidential candidates that know the truth but are
pouring the gasoline over it. The game is rigged.
I’m 34 years old, Jewish, and from NY. I was in “conservative” Jewish religious school from preschool till 14, in addition to NY public school from k-college. Conservative in quotes because it is nothing like the American definition of conservative - an analogy to American politics is that they would be considered liberal, and the reformist sect progressive. I don’t “look” Jewish, and I am not a practicing Jew as I have my issues with the Abraham of faiths for many reasons. But Jews are not just a religion but an ethnicity as well - I’m ashkenazi. I’m giving this background information for a reason.
Since I was TEN YEARS OLD I’ve been a supporter of Palestine. What israel has done and continues to do is in my opinion just a recycling of the cycle of abuse they received on behalf of the Germans in the Holocaust. The open aired ghettos, ethnic supremacy, genocidal violence... it’s so obvious to me and it’s been obvious to me since I was fucking 10. I’ve been a Palestinian supporter to great personal blowback - I was nearly excommunicated from my own family for not being pro Israel. Right now I have to be very careful about what I say and how I say it, and I hate that. My mom - 66 years old practicing Jew - is heartbroken. She can’t believe what the world has come to. I have Israeli family friends, and they have relatives in Israel. It’s scary and horrible - innocent people on both sides are going to be the ones paying for this with their lives and limbs, especially the Palestinians.
And that’s the thing. It NEEDS TO BE SCREAMED that 40% of the population of Palestine is under 14. 50% under 18. They’ve been in essentially PRISON for 16 years! They don’t know any other world. They’re trapped. This is a prison outbreak, a slave revolt. It’s not a religious conflict although religious reasons are convenient - it’s a conflict of land and resources brought on by settler colonialism. Thanks Europe! Israel likes to call every operation they do in Palestine as “mowing the grass”. The once genocided are now the genociders.
The general vibe I get from the Jews I know is bomb the Palestinians to the stone ages and eradicate them. They don’t see them as human. They’re literally fucking children. They don’t care if they die - the children of Palestine - because they’re already the living dead.
The brutality is horrible but deserved. What did israel think was going to happen imprisoning children their entire lives? They grow up and become terrorists.
The comparisons to 9/11 are uncanny. Netanyahu was warned a few days prior by the Egyptian prime minister and he did nothing (times of Israel reported this). He is facing major domestic unrest due to his unpopular judicial reforms. How convenient... meanwhile the US/NATO is losing in Ukraine despite the propaganda, and the US would LOVE an excuse to bomb Iran. Hell the neocons are probably having wet dreams over the thought, I immediately thought of how excited John Bolton must be at this latest war. Iran is supplying Russia with equipment for their war in Ukraine. I’m pretty sure we are in the earlier stages of WW3 (starting with Ukraine but maybe even covid if it turns out to be an intentional lab leak - I buy the lab leak theory but err on the side of human error) and the media isn’t reporting it as such because nobody wants a panic.
Really though. 9/11. How did the worlds most powerful intelligence agency in 2023 not see Hamas planning this right under their noses? Those paragliders must of practiced somewhere beforehand, no? I’m in the future “conspiracy theory” camp of Netanyahu and co LET IT HAPPEN. Just like bush at minimum let 9/11 happen so he could have an excuse to attack countries that had nothing to do with it. I don’t see us attacking Saudi Arabia or Yemen who were the majority of the hijackers... in fact the Saudi royals got to leave the US while airspace was closed. How convenient!
I forgot to add, as a Jew, I believe Israel makes the world more dangerous for Jews worldwide - by design, as a feature and not a bug - to encourage more Jews worldwide to make Aaliyah and colonize Israel. And in the US they’re backed by insane evangelical Christians who believe Jesus will return and the rapture commence once Jews all return to Israel. It’s fucking insane. I refused my “birthright” brainwashing “free trip” over it.
I’m glad my father passed back in 2012, he was also a religious Jew and would be absolutely horrified that Nazis walk openly in the streets in America and fill our congress. Unfortunately he too was brainwashed and if he were alive today he’d be calling for genocide of the Palestinians. Luckily my mother is a little more reasonable and feels the same horrible feeling I do despite us being on opposite sides of the issue.
I hear you, loud and clear.
Israeli demands for special pleading have done more to create antisemites than all the morons to drivel on Stormfront.
It’s too bad my family never saw things my way. They’re brainwashed sheep regarding Israel. It’s so sad.
because they essentially don't care what the rest of the world thinks - they think the west supports them, and some sections of the west do. But don't the Israelis realise it's only up the point where they are dropped, like all our former "allies", Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan - all wrecked and abandoned. They will be no different.
"But don't the Israelis realize it's only up the point where they are dropped, like all our former "allies", Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan - all wrecked and abandoned."
I don't know, Chris. They own the media, both mainstream and social. The programming has been going on for decades, and he who controls the message controls the unthinking people, who are still the majority.
I've long suspected they'd pull down the internet as this is the only source of truth for the enlightened. Then we'll be back to ham radios, which have been outlawed in many places.
Remember how Phil Donohue was the top rated show on MSNBC and was pulled for his anti-war coverage? Anyone who deviates from the mainstream narrative is finished. Most viewers are too distracted to care... so their couch potato existence is all they know. Those who attempt to shine the light of truth are branded as conspiracy theorists.
The Toy Story meme comes to mind. But honestly, without sounding ...anti semitic... we are over represented in positions of power, especially the media. I don’t think this is some grand conspiracy like the anti semitics do - I think it’s more so early ethnic success followed by nepotism and who you know and socialize with in - but regardless, whoever controls the narrative has a massive amount of power. Unless the west starts seeing massive losses from supporting Israel I think little will change.
Israel has very big money behind it. The others do not.
It makes all the difference. Israel will be lavishly supported.
They see themselves as part of The West, too special to be dropped like the others.
Thanks for your insightful and important comment. And your commitment to justice and truth. THAT should have been the legacy of Jews especially after the Holocaust, and WAS for some. No good can come of injustice and slaughter. I’m afraid it might have been a Mossad-assisted act in the first place, maybe they “let their guard down” or somehow enticed this. Or maybe it was actually Hamas who don’t have universal support in Gaza but HAVE NO CHOICE or vote. Their claim to have called on civilians to leave is a cruel joke and meaningless. All those in power KNOW it’s an open air prison and the PEOPLE can’t escape. Half of them are children who’ve never known freedom.
I try to reach as many as possible to let them distinguish between Zionists, who have perpetrated crimes, and Jews, many of whom have courageously refused to go along with the narrative, at risk to their lives and reputations. Dan Cohen, for example has received death threats from Zionists for his views. Also the Israeli government HAS REFUSED to help the families of the hostages, despite a few (mother and child/children) hostages having been released unconditionally. They say the time has come for “cruelty” – even to their own Jewish citizens!
As for 9/11, look for the video “The New Pearl Harbor” free on YouTube which (without pointing the blame on a specific group) decisively PROVES it was an “inside job” as shown by MANY architects and people who work on buildings as well as scientific principles.
Spot on!
"I believe Israel makes the world more dangerous for Jews worldwide" - that's been the sentiment expressed especially since Israel openly sided with Nazi Ukraine, and not just morally. There are reports - need verification - that big number of Israeli instructors/mercenaries flew back from Ukraine to Israel since this latest thing started.
One reason for that unequivocal moral and practical support is assumed to be the fact that Zelensky and most of his clique - certainly most of Ukrainian oligarchs - are Jews.
So yes, the rise of anti-semitism in the world is guaranteed.
Interesting. Suella Braverman and Sunak are standing with British Jews and reminding the rest of us citizens, though we never even thought of such a thing, not to hate on Jews because of the (inevitable and terrible) retaliation to the Hamas attack.
They don't accidentally drop ideas into our consciousness. They do it on purpose. Now we think, perhaps we should be hating on Jews (who have nothing to do with it) because of what Israel and Zionists do? Perhaps to make all Jews leave?
"Intelligence is a lethal mutation." ~ Ernst Meyr
What is legitimate about vaccines? None have ever worked. None! Please don't even mention Smallpox or Polio as that has been settled long ago. Vaccines are all toxins that bypass the immune system;.
WW2 was not a false flag. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor with suicidal kamikaze pilots, which is well documented. The US stayed out of WW2 for YEARS before they were forced into the war based on that attack. WW2 was IMO the only war in modern history that we should of ever gotten involved in, the only “good” war.
There was, however, an imperial prologue to the war involving more than one power, which is worth studying.
the " usual suspects " we always see behind the wars. and according to Professor Antony C. Sutton, even levels of the German government were involved. hence my own theory that it was a proxy war. read any book from Professor Sutton, if you haven't. Wall st and the Rise of Hitler, Wall st funded the Bolsheviks, Wall st and FDR...all good stuff.
Aww hunny! False flag perhaps not, but deliberately provoked and prodded, and then allowed to happen is proven beyond sensible doubt.
Yes, the American public were against joining the European war, hence the provocation and allowing it to happen.
You do know that Hitler and his regime were funded by US Bankers along with Ford Motors and GM etc. This is the real reason the US "stayed out of the war" because there were the usual people MAKING MONEY FROM THE BLOOD OF THE POOR!
Yes, and Hitler was inspired by the US treatment of blacks and especially natives.
EH!!! Wrong answer. the USA armed and financed both sides in WW2. they provided the fuel Japan needed to go almost 4,000 miles to bomb a mostly empty shipyard. and provided the cover story that 6 million Jews were exterminated in camps.
gassed, even though those rooms were not airtight. lots of lies around that. as well as the USA and Britain destroying the vital infrastructure so millions starved to death, and providing the necessary distraction so roughly 5.9 million could eventually emigrate to Palestine. NEXT???😀
I am not arguing with a Holocaust denier, you are beyond hope. I am Jewish and have met actual Holocaust survivors.
I hate Israel because it gives fuel to antisemites like yourself.
You're Jewish, but you " hate Israel "?
Anti-Semitism has to do mostly with language. How is it that a Jewish person, doesn't know that?
It was a horrible situation, enabled by the USA, Britain, France, and even levels of the German government. the Zionists, Wall St., paid for it all. that's been public info for over 40 years. why be mad at me? those people starved to death because the Allies, destroyed the vital infrastructure so no supplies could get in. that's why they died. Zionists enabled the murder of other Jewish people, that is a very ugly truth. who should we really be mad at? because it wasn't all of them, it was a segment of the Heirarchy that decided to go ahead with it. why kill the messenger when you could find this yourself with any simple web search...
Thank you for your post. I wholeheartedly agree with many of the things you stated. I look at this as another excuse for the neocons to start a war with Iran. I’m hearing and following those who have seen and been on the ground in Gaza many times and see how the Palestinians are treated by the Israeli military. It’s horrific. I see Israel committing war crimes and U.S. and EU just give them a pass. Like you said the ones whose people were murdered in the Holocaust are now committing genocide against the Palestinians. I feel for the innocent children the most. The propaganda machine just keeps the lies going just like they did before the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq and so many others. When these lies are debunked it’s usually too late because half the public still believe them and the war machine has already started. I used to be a supporter of Israel, but now I see what’s happening and it’s scary. I can no longer support a government that murders civilians for back in the day I didn’t really know what was going on.
It’s not even the ones harmed in the Holocaust doing this, nearly all of them have died from old age at this point. It’s their children and grandchildren doing it now, who have no first hand experience in the Holocaust but have only heard testimonies from the survivors.
In spite of Israel's tiny size, the much larger and more powerful United States behaves like its vassal state, instead of the other way round. That's because the evangelical right believes that if the U.S. doesn't kiss Israel's ass and support everything it does, God will punish it; all based on an obscure Bible verse, which says: "Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee." ~ Numbers 24:9 KJV
That this lone verse and the book of Revelation have any influence over a nation's foreign policy is insanity. But here we are in 2023.
It’s worse than that, evangelicals want Jews to return to Israel so Jesus comes back to earth and the rapture begins. It’s insane.
Evangelicalism is a fucking cult of probably the worst kind.
I can never get over this madman just canceling the covid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSIrQBGfUtw. The metal version of it underscores the madness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPRvxTjfOk
Thank you! I needed that second video for comic relief from the first one. lol,
Looks like that guy made quite a few of those. Look at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsTcs1nU5MU
Any doubt those zombies are ready to go out and do anything? Fucking satanists all those evangelicals are.
WTF is this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7bUYBYZPE
LMAO! I half expected to see crowd surfing in the first vid.
In the second video, pig-calling no longer sounds like any known life-form. lol
Feudalism. the Vatican owns Britain, which owns America, which owns, Israel.
No, its just money.
Thank you for the truth. I would like to add one thing I see and say very many times. The wars for the rich are fought with the blood of the poor. Every time the innocent and poor pay the price. If there is someway to wake all the people who are committing the crime of war to this fact (since unless they are high ranking) they are not from wealth to understand The People They are Killing are the SAME AS THEMSELVES! This separation has some sort of blinder or barrier built in to stop this from happening. We The People of the world ARE BEING USED!! Why do we defend our very oppressors?
The thing is, most people still haven't figured out the level of propaganda that came out after 9/11. Most people still think we went to war in Iraq because they were involved in 9/11 and that restrictions on liberties where necessary to keep us safe.
So good luck trying to discuss nuances with this one in the heat of the moment.
Good luck is right. I’ve been reading and reading, till my eyes hurt. Then till my brain hurt. The narrative was swallowed whole again. But there was an appetite for it. I’m staying well away from any conversation around this. It is as it is, and in the aftermath the rope will need help. Food. Water. Tents. Blankets. Baby food. You know, the luxuries.
The people * not rope.
While I agree the people will need support, Israel is already bombing resupply convoys, claiming they are weapons shipments.
Yep. Propaganda is a cancer
Susan Lindauer's book, Extreme Prejudice explains it all. she was there, she was a CIA asset.
Ahh, so the propagandists upgraded, "They threw babies out of incubators" to "Children were beheaded as their mothers were raped." Why not throw in, "And their pets were killed and eaten."
The last sentence is the one that will incense the most Americans.
What surprises me is why the "Concerned For the World Due to Global Warming" sect forgot about the impact of these wars on climate.
Oh, I get it! Fewer humans in the end will outweigh the destruction. Stupid me!
russian_bot: There is something going on, that's for sure. Maybe the Big Boys know something we don't. e.g. Giant asteroid headed for Earth so eliminate as many people beforehand. Or maybe it's something else.
War makes money and war propaganda gets people riled up and watching CNN again.
Timmy: "Big Boys" proved they know how to stuff their pockets at the expense of everything and everyone else. Other than that they know shit and couldn't care less.
russian_bot: I think the Big Boys play golf together at the Malthus Club and brag to each other about how much they've fucked over the proles.
Many Muslims like cats. Mohammed was a cat lover, and there are many stories of his fondness for felines.
This is true but what’s the relevance? The point is the absolute dehumanization of Palestinians and the desire to create another 9/11 like the one they created in the US – where MANY signs by which I mean actual incidents and connections show us was a Mossad with CIA help operation designed to create public compliance with their designs to demonize Muslims and create a slaughter, for which Israel is significantly motivated more than the US.
In the midst of all discussion of Palestinians and Muslims that is reduced to war, you have placed within the verbal rubble a single instance of normal humanity. For that I weep as I salute you.
Felinity, not humanity.
Feral Finster: Egyptians worshiped cats and loved greyhounds. I think the Egyptian cat god was called Baste.
But that is off topic, much as I like talking about animals, especially cats.
Cats know all about Bastet. When I was little, I asked Mama about humans, and if they had gods, would their gods look like humans?
Mama washed my ears and said "no, silly, if humans could imagine gods, their gods would look like cats!"
We don't even know which side those children were on, the propaganda tells us they were Israeli but my suspicion is they were Palestinian.
If there’s any “beheaded babies” they’re likely the result of being blown to bits by the Israeli bombing campaign.
I read this in the Guardian and it has been refuted.
notBob: I'm not sure of anything the media or government tells us.
That is a wise place to be mentally, Ron Paul always called it the "Empire of lies"
Even if Palestinians were "animal-animals" that wouldn't justify their wholesale slaughter.
Just another sickening example of how the myth of human superiority paradoxically justifies the total disregard for human life.
Palestinian child.....Israeli child.... does it matter? It's wrong, regardless....
Two often heard assertions about the NY Times have certainly been validated over the past week . Open the digital home page and one is greeted by images of rockets supposedly halted by Israel's iron dome or by rubble of Gaza's buildings produced by Israeli bombing. Accompanying headlines tell of atrocities by Hamas, whose fighters are at best "militants", at worst "terrorists", but rarely if ever patriots exercising their rights to armed resistance under international law. Hence: "The Times never met a war it didn't like." And: "The Times never witnessed an action by the IDF that it condemned" are both reinforced assertions about the grand old crook of US pseudo-journalism.
Also note that there’s absolutely no information about Ukraine anymore. I had to dig deep through to find anything at all about the war - on Friday that was not the case, it was still front page news. Convenient considering US/NATO is losing.
If you think this way, it was the RFK announcement of independence from the Democrats that was completely deep sixed, even in alternative media.
Ukraine war loss cannot be concealed.
One can walk and chew gum!
It’s disturbing to read comments from the anti-woke crowd (I agree with them on a number of issues by the way) where they reflexively reject any notion of the Israeli apartheid system contributing to what happened on the weekend. The answer to woke-ness is not counter woke-ness, especially if it means supporting the actions of a murderous government like Israel’s
Anti-woke or supporting war by an evil tyrannical regime - I don't see any difference in that comparison in the modern day. The left is all pro war as long as it was Ukrainians dying.
What 'left?'
considering "woke" now means supporting hormone modification/genital mutilation of children, racism against whites, and lawfare wielded against those who refuse to use others' "preferred pronouns," I cannot understand why anyone would claim, much less admit, to being woke.
it's pretty easy to voice opinions against both the woke power structure and pro-war genocide/profiteering, and there's no conflict between those anti-positions.
Oh shut up. Hormone blockers were given to children for other health conditions for decades. No children are being “mutilated” except children born intersex who doctors and parents feel they need to “correct” and most males in the US getting their foreskin removed without their consent as infants. Anti white racism?!? LOL. At best there’s prejudice on an individual level. The loss of privilege and white majority is really painful to you apparently. And please tell me more about the “law fare” regarding using the wrong pronouns while trans people are being legally eradicated in much of the idiotic Bible Belt south.
Fucking unbelievable.
"Oh shut up." A typical woke response to anyone who disagrees with a woke point of view, followed by a stack of lies and half-truths.
Please show the lies. Hormone blockers have been used for decades for other health conditions in children is a fact. Intersex babies being operated on was a fact, perhaps now hopefully they no longer do it because of the harms inflicted on those children. Male babies are overwhelmingly circumcised in the US, I don’t see them consenting to that! Children are NOT having their parts “mutilated” because they’re trans. Very few trans adults even have bottom surgery due to the expense, pain and uncertainty, and if you have a problem with top surgery then you must have a problem with women getting breast enhancements or reductions, right? Bet not. Regardless, female children are not having top surgery. Any “gender mutilation” surgeries done on children at this point in time are due to health issues outside of gender related issues.
I don’t give a fuck if you think I’m woke. I’m a cisgendered lesbian who’s been PHYSICALLY ATTACKED IN A BATHROOM A DECADE AGO FOR BEING ***PERCEIVED*** AS TRANS. Im not trans, I’m a woman who has a vagina who appears masculine.
Your rhetoric ENDANGERS my life, which is why, in so many words, I’m telling you to go fuck yourself.
You need to educate yourself. Things are not as black and white as you seem to think. I am not sure you are interested in anything factual, but this link could help you. Maybe. https://www.hrc.org/resources/get-the-facts-on-gender-affirming-care
As the parent of a child I can say with authority that people, especially in the US, do not give a flying fig about children. People only care about children when children serve their own selfish political purposes or when they can enrich themselves off children. It's why I'm deeply suspicious when anyone says "but what about the CHILDREN?"
So I wasn't surprised when Biden parroted the manipulative lie about decapitated children. I also wouldn't be surprised if the online astroturfers spreading the same lies at the behest of the MIC also likely in real life brag "I hate children".
BuT wHaT aBoUt ThE cHiLdReN they clutch their pearls as they whine about drag queen story time and LGBTQ rights while little children get shot in school, and then they cheer on israel eradicating Palestinians, of whom 50% are under the age 18 and 40% are under the age of 14. They don’t give a flying fuck about children. All they care about is subjugating or eradicating the out group. And their children.
The insanity is hard to bear. Will humans ever see that war/violence doesn’t solve anything?
Deb Underhill: War solves the "overpopulation" problem.
We’re not overpopulated, we have a global wealthy 1% that loves to over consume. Miss me with this eco fascist bullshit. It’s always the third world countries that are “overpopulating” aka pushing out non white babies. It’s never the jet set global elites that are the problem, or how 8 men own more wealth than 8 billion people combined. Nope, oVeRpOpUlAtIoN. Let’s start with eradicating the elites since they’re the over consumers causing the problem.
asher2789: I meant to put "problem" in quotes. Didn't I? There is no overpopulation I agree. The Earth has plenty of resources for all.
But that's another topic for another day.
Yes, it does. So would free, widely distributed birth control and education. Probably wouldn’t cost more than war. Just my opinion.
Deb Underhill: Education is the key.
I expect they've already named one of the thermonuclear bombs, "Malthus".
DomeLord: Malthus is a great name for a thermonuclear bomb. Perfect!
Probably be reserved for the first one out of the trap or perhaps the first one to go *'BANG'*! Who knows what these lunatics are up to.
Humans have fully embraced their inner chimp and kicked their other nearest primate relative, the bonobos, to the curb. The difference in our two nearest relatives approach to life and society could not be greater.
I made youtube mad at me with a comment that Israel would find it much less expensive to stop dropping bunker buster bombs on Gaza and just build some "showers" to herd all the animals into.
I hate the blood lust I see in so many people, against civilians and children.
The more expensive the weapon the more legitimate its use. Poison gas is too cheap so its use is atrocious.
I agree the financiers would be unhappy with an economically efficient model of genocide.
As for the lies about baby-beheadings, the source and its disseminator have been exposed: an extremist who called for the total eradication of a Palestinian town full of families, who was “giddy” after making these false claims of rape and baby killings and even pet-killings (to arouse the rage of every demographic and secure worldwide support for a MASSACRE), and it was broadcast first on i24 TV, exposed as the personal news network of Netanyahu. Whose govt REFUSED TO TRY AND SAVE or spare HOSTAGES even Hamas was shocked and released a mother and child unconditionally as a gesture of goodwill. Netanyahu’s government does NOT want hostages to live because they might give testimony as to humane treatment by Palestinians which could counter their description of them as “animals.” But had they slaughtered this many animals the Israelis would have risen up in protest. But for the Palestinians NOTHING THEY DO will ever change the determination of Zionists to commit ethnic cleansing. They only worry – a little – about what the world might think and therefore lose support.
https://palestinetoday.quora.com/Baby-beheadings-and-Rape-are-All-Israeli-Lies-Repeated-by-West-to-Justify-Genocide-in-Gaza-and-Incite-Rage?ch=17&oid=130450315&share=f9729cd6&srid=hOirSu&target_type=post
Highly recomended, analysis from Richard Medherst:
https://youtu.be/njKGWVdvu6U?si=cTO0-k2RVTkE9YLU
yes full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKx85ZK1l8Q&t=11356s superb
In order to commit atrocities one of the things that must be done is dehumanization of the victims.
~In Regards to Mass Murder (Also Known as Genocide)
Like the Belgian babies in 1914 being tossed in the air and caught by German bayonets.
Regarding Biden’s lie about viewing photos of decapitated babies, every day that passes without the invocation of the 25th Amendment is a violation of the Constitution.
Clearly—glaringly obviously—Biden is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” I shudder to think of Harris as Acting President, but, in fact, she already formally performed that duty on November 19, 2021 when Biden had a colonoscopy. The 25th Amendment is the remedy for a mentally enfeebled President. Does anyone actually believe that Biden can process the current complexity of the world situation, especially the current unprecedented risk of nuclear war, and make competent policy decisions?
"...every day that passes without the invocation of the 25th Amendment is a violation of the Constitution."
Because Halfwit Joe says the things that people of influence and authority want to hear, even if he is overenthusiastic, like a Jack Russell with rabies.
Good point. Why isn't the 25th Amendment being pushed?