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Anyone remember the Kuwaiti Baby Incubators ZOMG from the run up to the first Gulf War?

The story was a total lie, and the supposed eyewitness was the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador, but the news networks sort of glossed over that little detail and ran with it hard.

By the time the lie was comprehensively debunked, the neocons had already gotten the war they so craved.

Similarly the lies about Saddam's supposed WMDs and involvement in 9/11. Another lie, again exposed only after it no longer mattered..

Or the Libyan rape rooms. Or the Syrian poison gas attacks. All lies. But the very real truth of the Yemeni genocide is memory-holed, because it doesn't suit the Empire at the moment.

EDIT: what amazes me is that humans fall for it, over and over again.

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I’m 34 years old, Jewish, and from NY. I was in “conservative” Jewish religious school from preschool till 14, in addition to NY public school from k-college. Conservative in quotes because it is nothing like the American definition of conservative - an analogy to American politics is that they would be considered liberal, and the reformist sect progressive. I don’t “look” Jewish, and I am not a practicing Jew as I have my issues with the Abraham of faiths for many reasons. But Jews are not just a religion but an ethnicity as well - I’m ashkenazi. I’m giving this background information for a reason.

Since I was TEN YEARS OLD I’ve been a supporter of Palestine. What israel has done and continues to do is in my opinion just a recycling of the cycle of abuse they received on behalf of the Germans in the Holocaust. The open aired ghettos, ethnic supremacy, genocidal violence... it’s so obvious to me and it’s been obvious to me since I was fucking 10. I’ve been a Palestinian supporter to great personal blowback - I was nearly excommunicated from my own family for not being pro Israel. Right now I have to be very careful about what I say and how I say it, and I hate that. My mom - 66 years old practicing Jew - is heartbroken. She can’t believe what the world has come to. I have Israeli family friends, and they have relatives in Israel. It’s scary and horrible - innocent people on both sides are going to be the ones paying for this with their lives and limbs, especially the Palestinians.

And that’s the thing. It NEEDS TO BE SCREAMED that 40% of the population of Palestine is under 14. 50% under 18. They’ve been in essentially PRISON for 16 years! They don’t know any other world. They’re trapped. This is a prison outbreak, a slave revolt. It’s not a religious conflict although religious reasons are convenient - it’s a conflict of land and resources brought on by settler colonialism. Thanks Europe! Israel likes to call every operation they do in Palestine as “mowing the grass”. The once genocided are now the genociders.

The general vibe I get from the Jews I know is bomb the Palestinians to the stone ages and eradicate them. They don’t see them as human. They’re literally fucking children. They don’t care if they die - the children of Palestine - because they’re already the living dead.

The brutality is horrible but deserved. What did israel think was going to happen imprisoning children their entire lives? They grow up and become terrorists.

The comparisons to 9/11 are uncanny. Netanyahu was warned a few days prior by the Egyptian prime minister and he did nothing (times of Israel reported this). He is facing major domestic unrest due to his unpopular judicial reforms. How convenient... meanwhile the US/NATO is losing in Ukraine despite the propaganda, and the US would LOVE an excuse to bomb Iran. Hell the neocons are probably having wet dreams over the thought, I immediately thought of how excited John Bolton must be at this latest war. Iran is supplying Russia with equipment for their war in Ukraine. I’m pretty sure we are in the earlier stages of WW3 (starting with Ukraine but maybe even covid if it turns out to be an intentional lab leak - I buy the lab leak theory but err on the side of human error) and the media isn’t reporting it as such because nobody wants a panic.

Really though. 9/11. How did the worlds most powerful intelligence agency in 2023 not see Hamas planning this right under their noses? Those paragliders must of practiced somewhere beforehand, no? I’m in the future “conspiracy theory” camp of Netanyahu and co LET IT HAPPEN. Just like bush at minimum let 9/11 happen so he could have an excuse to attack countries that had nothing to do with it. I don’t see us attacking Saudi Arabia or Yemen who were the majority of the hijackers... in fact the Saudi royals got to leave the US while airspace was closed. How convenient!

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