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Vayu's avatar

"you have to admit there’s something deeply and profoundly sick about Israeli society itself".

It's really weird how people can be completely brainwashed and out of touch in one area.

One time I worked side by side an Israeli woman. She was smart, funny, beautiful and entertaining. She was popular. Everybody universally loved her. This was in the late 90s. One time her and I were talking and somehow Palestine came up. A switch flipped dramatically and all of a sudden this bright, enjoyable, seemingly well rounded person turned into a serial killer like hateful evil person. She was a completely different person. She was oozing hate.

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Fran's avatar

I hope you called her out on it. I wonder whether the profound hate expressed by some is not due to turning things around since the history of Palestine/Israel would say Israel has carried out many atrocities towards the Palestinians, and of course the Nakba was the worst. Maybe they engage in this prejudicial hate because there is a need to vilify those that have become their victims, which is what gave them the land of Palestine in the first place. Not uncommon especially in abusive relationships. A man beats up his wife and blames her to take the onus of his own brutality.

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gypsy33's avatar

Fran on Breaking Points they showed a truly dystopian image of bombs and “aid” simultaneously falling from the sky; THIS is what Amerikkka is all about . 😡

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JennyStokes's avatar

This is what's called: a multi-faceted approach!

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Fran's avatar

Didn't they kill people when they dropped aid a couple of days ago, or is this something else. Is that what you mean?

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JennyStokes's avatar

I think one man was killed.

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Reader's avatar

I saw the same change in Ukrainian people who were pathologically livid about anything Russian. They were scary.

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Kojo's avatar

So basically that’s like how most of the US has responded to middle easterners for the past 20 years or so.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The funny thing is that when I lived in Ukraine (2004-2012), nationalists were seen as freaks and losers.

What happened was that it was made clear to Ukrainians that hating their brothers (pretty much every Ukrainian has family in Russia) and their own parents was the price of admission to The Club, The Golden Billion, The Magical Land Where Institutions Basically Work.

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Jim Jackson's avatar

I was on the receiving end of that kind of transformation by a college roommate during the Civil Rights Movement when I told him black people should not be disenfranchised. He immediately said that I should be shot and went into a rant. I later wondered whether my comment, dropped on him unexpectedly, was too far outside his ken for him to consider calmly. Sudden, angry transformation must be a marker of essentially instinctual belief, which is often programmed by the State.

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Lorie's avatar

I've seen the same thing happen! It's disturbing.

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BJ's avatar

Vayu - it's sad but this is how they are taught!! Ingrained and indoctrinated. They are superior. As I child growing up I recall how they all had black maids and treated them like dirt. Every once in a while they would throw them a bone (a gift) to absolve them of their guilt! Meanwhile they had raised all their children for them. I remember being so very small and thinking how could you treat another "person" like this? I was so confused and often would be reprimanded for taking care of them or just doing something nice.

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Susan T's avatar

Maybe we need to consider that most of society is profoundly sick. https://peterbeinart.substack.com/p/gaza-and-the-course-of-history?r=avwc2

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Levi Tate's avatar

"Zionists, even the most bloodthirsty of them, are not individual psychopaths; many of them are loving and even self-sacrificing persons within their own community. Rather, they are the vectors of a collective psychopathy, which means a special way (we may call it inhuman) by which they collectively see and interact with other human communities.

This is a crucial point, without which we can never understand Israel. Calling their leaders psychopaths is not helpful. What we need is recognize Israel as a collective psychopath, and study the origin of this unique national character. It is a matter of survival for the world, just as it is a matter of survival for any group to recognize the psychopath among them and understand his patterns of thinking and of behavior."

https://www.unz.com/article/israels-biblical-psychopathy/

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Not to put too fine a point on this, but didn't we witness the same kind of behavior during the covid? You could talk to almost anyone about almost anything before the covid, but try for one minute to talk to the same people about the vaccine and you hit a cognitive brick wall.

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

The same with vaccines. I am against all vaccines and many times when I have a discussion about it with very ¨britght¨ person, sudenly, here comes Mr. Smith. :)

The Mr. Smith Effect

¨In the movie The Matrix, Mr. Smith has the ability to enter

any body, at anytime and of course this often occurs when

the matrix is threatened by Neo. The scenario is a

reflection of our real world. For example, you’re down at

the coffee shop having a conversation with a friend and

everything is fine until you mention something like 9/11 was

an inside job. Now watch what happens.

Up pops Mr Smith, to replace the person you were just having

a conversation with, to attack you, because all truths

threaten the matrix. The matrix programmed into

most people in their youth and because of this

“Mr Smith programming” these people become

guardians of the matrix, protectors of the code,

police of the mind control, enforcers of the holds together

our false concept of reality like super glue.¨

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hierochloe's avatar

I'm not against vaccines but I love your Mr. Smith metaphor

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

The Matrix. The Woman in the Red Dress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZdlqTQ3PpY

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Grant Harvey's avatar

That’s really terrifying

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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

The Zionist entity is engaging in its usual nonsense of 'Info Warfare' whereby 'Diversion' is utilized to stave off attention just enough to keep their Crimes 'tolerable' for their Western financiers... except this time around, very few (if any) are turning away from said crimes given the gravity of how Vile they are. 'Israel' will soon find out what many have already known for a while now:

Namely, it is now a Pariah whose time is swiftly running out.

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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

If you wish to Read & Listen to more of My commentary, here is my Main Stack:

https://thefallofthewest.substack.com?r=5jj6h

& Here is my Stack on American History (from the Primary Sources):

https://theannalsofamerica.substack.com?r=5jj6h

Thank You Again to Everyone!

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Marsha Steinberg's avatar

Now talk about the port Biden says he will build to deliver aid, while the real reason is so Israel can extract the oil and gas reserves in and around Gaza! Israel has already sold leases to do just that! Just google it!

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"There’s something deeply and profoundly sick about Israeli society itself."

This statement hits the nail on the head on why things are so f-ed up with the West's response to the war crimes Israel is perpetrating in Gaza right now. Caitlin elaborates on it further: "How much worse can we expect the privileged group to be in an ethno-supremacist apartheid state, where members of the privileged group are indoctrinated from birth into believing all kinds of justifications for this abusive dynamic?"

Raising your children to believe they're "God's ONLY chosen people" and they can do no wrong--even up to and including genocide-- is what has turned Israeli society into the psychopathic murdering squad it has become. Whatever you can do to call out these murderers and their accomplices (that is the US, UK, Canada, etc.) and starve the beast of the war machine, DO IT. Follow Aaron Bushnell's example not in burning yourself alive, but in burning down the corrupt system NOW so that world can become a peaceful and compassionate place for all humanity.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi TRC

We need another Jan. 6 only a thousand or more times over. We must bring ALL political persuasions together in order the drain this sewer. Our government disgusts left, middle and right alike. So we must put our ideological differences aside and just DO IT. It could be the real, actually beginning of physical revolution.

Oh, and bring firearms, like the Colonists did in their revolt against the British. This is classic Second Amendment; A WELL-REGULATED MILITIA.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

I agree about putting the ideological differences aside and just do it, but we're not going to be able to take on a professional military with firearms and no training. We the People aren't a "well regulated militia" unless they're trained first. Unless we can flip the military forces to the side of the People, we can't expect to be successful solely through a physical revolution. We need the revolution of the mind, the heart and soul of the majority of the 99% first. Then things would change very quickly and possibly with less violence one would hope.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

The most genocidal, most Holocausts "nation" in the history of the world is gonna continue aiding and abetting Israel in their century plus long Palestinian Holocaust because demented biden says the "defence" of israhell is "critical".

Typical of the usa's record of dealing with folks of skin color other than White, the usa's record has always been DO GENOCIDES, DO HOLOCAUSTS because what is actually "important" is usa Gangster "nation".

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Ron Stockton's avatar

There is something deeply and profoundly sick about American society as well - always has been. The USA was settled by those who thought they were exceptional. That ideology has lasted to this day and is behind the USA being probably the most murderous, imperialist nation of all time, although another exceptionalism country, England, would be close.

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Eddie's avatar

I realize that the USA was built on hate. I still try to look for the good but I'm close to giving up.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Don't give up Eddie. A lot of people in the world feel as distraught as you.

US just needs a war on it's own soil then hopefully some will learn.

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Eddie's avatar

We had a Civil War and Americans didn't learn the first time.

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Susan T's avatar

It has been unbelievably sickening to see children in Palestine dying of starvation. The US plans to drop parcels in will not stop that happening and they know it. I was just listening to someone on a talk show talking about the "conflict" in Gaza, which most of us know is actually a genocide. Here is a short speech by someone from Jewish Voices for Peace. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnJEjEJMjns&t=629s

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novapsyche's avatar

It most definitely is a genocide.

However, I describe the firefight there as a conflict instead of a "war". Sometimes I use the word 'flashpoint'. But anything, anything, would be better than calling it a war, which it is NOT.

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hierochloe's avatar

"holocaust" seems pretty on the money

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Susan T's avatar

here's another one from the Palestine festival of Literature https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeaKc0TyWxo

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Vayu's avatar

Thank you. I'm regularly curious how many Jews do not support zionism. I keep wondering can it be the majority of Jews? There must be a population of people that know better.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Humans are, first and foremost, herd animals.

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gypsy33's avatar

Cats are required to rule the world, Feral; cats think for themselves. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m a cat in a woman’s body.

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Feral Finster's avatar

More humans should aspire to being cats.

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Dr.Who's avatar

Thank you. Reposting without the timestamp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnJEjEJMjns

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Kojo's avatar

Stop calling it the “IDF”. That name is itself propaganda. They are not there for defending anything.

This is a military occupation and apartheid force. The Israeli Genocide Force.

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gypsy33's avatar

Kudjoe, IDF stands for Ignorant Disgusting Fucktards.

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BJ's avatar

(There’s only so much footage you can watch of IDF soldiers gleefully behaving like monsters before you have to admit there’s something deeply and profoundly sick about Israeli society itself.)

Is it all Jews? No, but I can assure you they have far more clout within the Jewish Community then we do. I have personally stopped patronizing any business (including doctors) owned by Jews. I mean no malice towards Jews themselves but only they can stop this. If you truly care and think there is nothing you can do, that's not true. Both Shop-Rites within two miles of my house are owed by Jews. Instead I travel five miles to use a third which is NOT!

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gypsy33's avatar

Ain’t no Jews in my neck of the woods so I’m fortunate in that respect.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

I just want to see that damn food get in to the Palestinians.

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JennyStokes's avatar

.......and medicines.

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gypsy33's avatar

I just want to see the goddamned genocide stopped, and a free state for the Palestinians.

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Sari Tähtinen's avatar

Thank you Caitlin🙏

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don dunne's avatar

The real danger to society is the aftermath of hate that will and can transform the world ,,, an atomic weapon in the hands of a rouge few ,, Paris, London, New York City , Moscow ,,,, gone ,,,

And to think that there are those that actually think it cannot happen.

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nosey parker's avatar

I hope to be close to the epicenter.

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jamenta's avatar

7 year old girl kidnapped by Israel caught on camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRRjx-F1r2A

Apparently this is not an unusual occurrence by the IDF. These brave, tough soldiers - fighting the real war... against 7 year olds.

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California Girl's avatar

Thank you for writing about your perspective!

A lot of wrong is being done in my name, which horrifies me.

I have no confidence in the recent idea of taking Western aid into Gaza via ship. I am sure it wil fail, the US appears to be incompetent, but that may be a handy thing to hide behind. I think the US is incinsere.

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钟建英's avatar

Many years ago (maybe 5 years back) I wrote to Martin Wolf to urge him to pay attention to the plight of the Palestinians. He surprised me by replying to my email, and shocked me by accusing me of “rating anti-Semitism” for singling out the Palestinians over all other problems of the world.

More recently I followed up, to say I hope he now understands why the Palestinian issue needs attention. He replied saying he stands by his original position.

I still have copies of his emails.

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notBob's avatar

Looking back to your previous article that the deep state doesn't care who you vote for.

Let me also point out that they don't care if you protest, they don't care if a million people march for an end to the war - the politicians will make speeches, say the things you want to hear and then gleefully send more billions to be used to cause death and destruction.

Israel certainly doesn't care about protests or world opinion, they may pretend too in speeches but their actions say everything we need to know.

They don't care if you are outraged and disgusted with their genocide because there is nothing you can do to stop it.

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