Oh yeah, I feel fucking terrible for having voted for Jill Stein, for having an ethical foundation, a modicum of compassion, and for being able to recognize that my government, regardless of the occupants of power positions, is the biggest bullshit propaganda engine ever contrived by sick minds.
Not to mention the most evil, vicious bunch of murderers in modern history. Maybe they should stop and think. "As ye sow so shall ye reap". Their legacy will be endless violence until they cease to exist.
If that’s so, who will be committing that violence on the Israelis? The Gazans? What does that make THEM? What has happened in Gaza and the WB since 10/7 is because of what happened on 10/7. Gaza reaps what it sows. Hamas is not sustainable. And if the Gazans won’t turn on them, it’s on the Gazans. I thought Trump’s suggestion for what should be done was fanciful and highly unlikely, but this can’t go on as it has with Palestinians, acting as Iran’s proxies, starting one war after another, always getting the shit kicked out of them because they can’t take an orange and make orange juice. Much less a lemon and make lemonade. I think Lee Smith has it pretty close to spot on.
“Here is the stark reality: Gazans, not just the enlisted members of the Hamas brigades, waged an exterminationist campaign against Israel, and they lost. At virtually any other time in history, save the last 75 years, they would be lucky to lose only territory and not have their legend and language permanently deleted from the book of the living.
Trump’s generous offer to the Gazans therefore signals a return to history, but with a twist. Trump has not only spared them, but vowed to provide them with new lives, better lives, work, new homes, a chance to raise their families in peace, an existence not premised on total and permanent war with a more powerful adversary destined to rout them entirely, and would have already done so if not for the objections of other powerful global players.
Trump, in his innovative mercy, has offered to save the Palestinian people from their own history, and give them a new idea to live by. They should thank their maker for the chance to start anew—and give thanks as well to the American president, who realistically promises them a better future, backed by U.S. global power. Given the repeated failure of the multi-decade-long dream of eliminating and replacing the Jews of Israel, it seems unlikely that the Palestinians will receive a better offer.”
Effectively, they have made themselves, Diaspora. They keep FAFO’ing. With the fall of Assad, the Palestinians have lost a land bridge for arms and war making supplies from Iran. Gazans have finally been ‘overtaken by events’, mainly decades of FAFO’ing.
Holy shit! Are you real? You must have drank gallons of the Kool Aid to actually believe that much less express it. The myth that Israel was just unoccupied wasteland is one of the greatest lies in history. A homeland was stolen and the world just stood by. Our propaganda machine has insured people like you will never be capable of seeing the truth. The truth is a homeland was stolen and its occupants brutalized. Try doing some honest research.
Try learning some real history. I didn’t say Israel was an empty wasteland. Jews were there. Large numbers of them. No homeland was stolen. One was created. I’m real. You real? How far is that 1970’s stoner lingo getting you. “Are you real?” Look, did you read the piece by Lee Smith. He’s a “real” journalist and author. If you’re objecting to my quote from his article, take it up with him. He makes a lot of good points. Go publish a responding piece. Maybe on some place like Substack. You can start your intro paragraph: “Holy shit! Are you real?”
People like him are not even worth responding to. All it does is aggravate you. They only serve the purpose of driving home how truly ignorant our education/propaganda system is.
So I read Lee Smith, and all he does is make opinionated pronouncements, where I was expecting some detailed history. I'm far more inclined to believe Jews native to Israel, who recognized and were so appalled by the racism implicit in seeing their Arab neighbors displaced for no valid reason that they were forced to reject Zionism -- have you read Miko Peled's, "The General's Son." That, my friend, is source material from the horse;'s mouth, not some BS from an observer with an apparent axe to grind. And in defense of gypsy, I myself am first-generation, my parents here from Italy early 20th Century. And when they restore Manhattan to its original inhabitants (HA), I'll fucking rejoice as they demolish those monuments to disaster capitalism, which already stole my parents house under eminent domain for peanuts in 1974 -- to build a police station as my dad lay in Florida recovering from a stroke. You think I give a fuck? Think again. And get a fucking grip on the reality as Miko's mom described it. Jews, Christians, Muslims lived in Palestine as neighbors, until Zionists couldn't bear the thought that any sort of social order could be valid other than that described in a set of ancient fucking FABLES. Unimaginably sick shit.
Couldn't help myself, gypsy, My Brooklyn street hackles popped up bigtime at this bullshit about large numbers of Jews being there, as if no one else was; plus ignoring the fact that most of the ultimate Jewish inhabitants, including Mr. Satanyahu, were Askenazics from Ukraine, Poland etc.; hardly native. And the 1970's stoner lingo comment got my Dago blood really boiling. Would like to see my 1970 self greet his 1970 self on a Brooklyn street. We'd see what the outcome of that confrontation would yield. No bullshit artist allowed in my old neighborhood without confrontation.
Uhhhuh. I just bet you are a real Luca Brasi type. I can tell. Ex college professor and all. Romans. Perhaps the biggest colonizers in all of world history, one of whom now complains that there weren’t enough Jews in old Palestine or old Judaea to justify Israel. Of course, the Romans have quite a history with the Jews in Judaea, right? Your historical hatred, Dago blood boiling and all, showing a bit? You can give your NY Brooklyn tough hackles rest. From one old man to another. I’m Scotch Irish.
Vin, your comment literally made me laugh out loud… I love it!
Us Flintstones take no bullshit either! I may be a country hick now, but it’s something I had to learn; I wasn’t born that way. I too have the Mediterranean temperament and I just cannot let shit go!
You can take the girl outta Flint, but ya can’t take Flint outta the girl 😉
You don’t know SHIT about the history of Palestine, stolen from its original inhabitants by an Amerikkkan -backed U.N. resolution. It’s THEIR LAND: WTF don’t you get about that?
I saw a great meme on YouTube. An elderly Palestinian man was sitting on the ruins of his home. He said, quote, “This is worth more to me than everything you have in America”.
Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, cause the Pals ain’t goin’ NOWHERE.
I don’t give a flyin’ fuck if you don’t take “Amerikkka” seriously.
Though I have Mohawk DNA, I reside on Chippewa land. I honor them every day by ecological land practices on my farm and I frequently visit a nearby sacred burial ground to thank them and tell them that their memory will never die. While I realize that’s insufficient MY parents had no part in the genocide of Native Americans; I am first-generation on my father’s side, and second on my mother’s.
Don’t fuck with cowgirls if ya know what’s good for ya. We pack pistols, both actual and verbal.
Love it. I live in a Metis community. More people should try listening to the downtrodden or maybe walking in their shoes. For the record I am white. While I grew up in the '60's I have never touched any type of drug. I won't even take prescription drugs. While most people don't live this lifestyle I believe for me it keeps my mind sharp and allows me to see a lot that many don't.
At the county recorder’s office, is the land title in your name or some Mohawk or Chippewa? If some Chippewa shows up on your doorstep and tells you, “Leave now you damn colonizer!”, are you gonna skedaddle? It’s nice that your mommy and daddy made good for you on Chippewa land. Your pride in stating that your parents had nothing to do with what you call the genocide of Native Americans is an accident of your place on a timeline of history, perhaps 100 years? In Israel, there too are Jews living on land whose parents had nothing to do with what happened in 1947-49. Or today. You’re not so fussy about your land title history, but ever so fussy about land in Israel while not knowing very much of the Jews history there. That history certainly outpaces and has outlasted yours and your parents in Amerikkka.
So dismissive of the Ds? So rejecting of the Rs? So much of a pariah doomed to the hinterlands outside the golden Zionist-decorated palace of the duopoly? Yes, that's me -- so doomed to be seen as "unpatriotic" because I perceive the depth of rot, of corruption in Mainstream 'Merica? Yep - but at least the air smells breathable here.
High five back to you, gypsy. And I was just thinking about you and laughing to myself because you have the best names for Bibi. I love "Satanyahu", and of course, "Bibi Nosferatu". We unpatriot pariahs gotta find humor where we can amidst the slime and muck of the American political scene
I’m getting more unpatriotic everyday. Still love the beauty of places like Montana, the Smokies in Tn., the north Ga. mountains and the beautiful beaches and water of the Gulf in AL. & FL. but the government can go f**k itself along with Israhell.😢☮️🇵🇸
That's what's so sad --- there are still so many beautiful places in this country; it's a place with such potential -- until you get to the a-holes who aspire to run it. And the a-holes who, believing their propaganda, vote for them.
Liberals (in the American, not Australian, sense) taunting those who refused to vote Democratic on the grounds of the Gaza onslaught really have no concept of the word “choice”. Expecting anyone who empathized with the Palestinians to make a choice between bombardment and forced displacement is akin to making a r*pe victim choose whether they want to be violated with or without lube.
There was always another option. That is, a Democratic Party that campaigned on preserving Palestinian sovereignty, on standing up to Israel and working out a peace deal that involved protecting both peoples’ right to exist (notwithstanding the injustice of 1948 and ongoing illegal settler activity), with Israel told that failure to agree to such a deal would result in the abrupt cutoff of military aid. But no, that wasn’t possible because AIPAC hedged their bets to ensure the American people had a Clayton’s choice. It is this perverse system that needs to be torn down.
So stop gaslighting those who made the only moral choices they had, be it Jill Stein or the couch at home.
The USA is the nation which has continuously rewarded Israel's Zionist administrations and 'leaders' for victimising and persecuting Palestinians. The USA was also one of those nations that carried out the partitioning of Palestine in order to create the State of Israel so, let the USA provide the land for an Israeli state and return Palestine to its rightful owners, its people.
Wait a minute--the US has taken enough land away from the indigenous people of North America. They don't need to be taking any more to house the Zy-0-nists. Maybe we ought to just let them all ride Musk's rocket to Mars or someplace where they can't hurt anyone else ever again?
Why? They’ve been there first and all along. The idea that the Jews are somehow interlopers in what is now the nation state of Israel, is fanciful nonsense. 75 years of extermination isn’t ideation and war losing has resulted in Gaza as rubble. Everyone in the ME, save for the Persians in Iran, have moved on from the Palestinians. UNWRA is not sustainable for them.
US imperialism aka US foreign policy is identical no matter the party maybe with marginal differences on the edges. But in the end its outcomes are identical; death, destruction, immiseration, extraction, exploitation & land grabs by monsters fueled by hyper-capitalism
indeed, and maybe the 'teamwork' as described above wasn't even necessary. maybe kamala would have been even better at selling a more convincing 'humanitarian ethnic cleansing' narrative to the western vassals. trump has far less 'credibility' and pr-image on that matter, imo. it'd be more like:'we've pressured the israeli's to let the palestinians leave gaza (temporarily) so they can return at some unspecified time in the future.' (and whadya know, the israeli's won't let them back in for 'security reasons', but what can the us do? israel is a sovereign nation with a right to defend itself ...). anyways, 80% sure that this intent of outcome would have been pretty much the same.
Caitlin, IMHO all Biden-Harris/Democrat bootlickers are EVERY BIT as bad/evil as all Trump/Republican bootlickers. Sometimes I'm hardpressed to see the difference (except over issues of lesser importance).
I will admit that it took me a while (with the help of your articles and the commentators of your Substack) to see just how bad/evil the "so-called liberal Democrat supporters" really are.
Thank you for continuing to expand my awareness with your incisive dismantling of narratives. Much love and stay strong for the fight yet to come!
Trumpets aren’t decent people anymore than are/ were Biden/ Harris supporters. Decent people don’t support genocide, provide bombs to murder babies, children, other humans! In fact decent people protest these actions as well the presence of War Criminal Netanyahu s presence in the USA.
Shameful that the criminal Netanyahu is even allowed in the U.S. Shameful and repulsive. So similar to Hitler. We need to protest loudly. No American should stand for it. For that matter, no Jew should either.
The psychopathic clown has replaced the senile butcher. Otherwise the genocidal show carries on. What I want to know is until when? When will the vast majority of Americans wake up from their navel gazing stupor and do something about it.
Trump and BiBi know their audience. Most Americans have moved around quite a bit and usually, but not always, don’t feel a deep connection to one place. Few have what might be considered an ancestral home and so they don’t grasp the love of a homeland like the Palestians do. The fact we’ve never had to directly fight to defend our country makes it hard to understand others’ willingness to do so.
My son-in-law thought Trump’s plan showed a lot of common sense. He believes the superficial, pro-Zionist news and he has lots of company. He really believes this is some kind of religious war and “the Jews have suffered enough and Israel is theirs by Biblical decree.” I know very few people who understand this is genocide and not Israel’s “right to defend itself against terrorists.” But Trump and BiBi know their audience—the distortion of history, Americans’ indifference to world events and vague religious ideas have deep roots.
Chang, While agreeing with the sentiments you have quoted, I think there's a flip-side to this story. We who have left our roots do not owe loyalty to any country or culture. I like to think we are internationalists, part of the human race.
Heh you must have read a diary on daily kos about Trump’s plan.
“ But hopefully it also speaks to everyone who either voted for Donald Trump, some third-party gadfly or just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris because of what they thought about the actions — or supposed lack thereof --of the Biden administration regarding the Israel/Palestine conflict.”
They rarely raised an objection about Biden’s support of Israel and many blamed Hamas for what Israel was doing. They even said the line:
He's a literal war criminal, no less than Henry Kissinger. The outlets that give him and the other genociders a pass are doing their part for genocide as well and should be hounded out of existence. Imagine staking your territory out as "anti-Trump fascism" but flexible on genocide! WTAF??
Or "supposed lack thereof..."? Was this fiction writer asleep the last 16 months? How about an accounting of Biden's meaningful actions in stopping the genocide if there were any? The fucking gall of these people who carry water for Israel and the empire every day but have no idea they're doing it...
As for why israel plays such a supremely important and prominent role for the elite rulers, it seems to me that it might have to do with what a perfect polorizing/dividing agent it functions as. After all, if you're a tiny group of billionaire oligarchs ruling over the vast majority of humanity, then obviously your number one goal and survival strategy is to make sure that the 99% are not united against you but are divided among themselves, hating and fighting each other, right? Well, there doesn't seem to be a more dividing force on this planet than religious tribalism and hostility, and you won't find a more tribalist ANTI-UNITY ethnocentric exclusivist divisive force on this planet than Zionism - that believes that those humans who had a very specific (and childish the God-ignorant) religious label placed on us at birth (in this case, the label of 'jewish') are of a much greater importance and value than the rest of humanity.
And this tribalist exclucivist force achieves its polarizing/antagonizing/dividing effect (the effect that greatly benefits the ruling elite) to an even greater magnitude especially when it is intentionally imposed upon an already existing civilization, as was done with the placement of an exclusivist supremacist tribe right smack in the middle of the muslim world (and also precisely placed to occupy the only narrow land bridge there is between Asia and Africa) to provide for the oligarch dividers-and-rulers of humanity with what they call "our unsinkable aircraft carrier in west Asia") to create as much friction, antagonism and polarization as possible among the 99% (and again, the division and pitting of the masses of humanity against each other is clearly the number one goal and survival strategy of a tiny minority elite group that rules over the vast majority)
In this sense, the billionaires' supremacist exclusivist ethnocentric ANTI-UNITY zionist colony in west Asia is like the gift that keeps on giving for the ruling class, creating endless antagonism and war not only in west asia, but also endless polarization and division of 99% all across the planet. What more could an oligarchic elite possibly ask for?
A thoughtful and quite reasonable analysis of the 21st Century version of divide and conquer, with the proviso that what never changes is the role of religions in setting up the foundations for the entire tribal "otherness" antagonism. Perhaps a good initial rectification step would be fewer clerics of all stripes.
"You could have had a holocaust overseen by a competent and articulate woman of color. Now you get ethnic cleansing from an orange buffoon who tweets mean words. "
I would have never believed it, but today I actually saw a reply to a friend's online posting along these lines... Blaming those of us who can see through the oligarchs' puppets in the White House and know who is really pulling the strings and why they're doing it. But noooooooooo! We're all selfish morally superior types who wanted to rain on their Khive parade. Not a mention of the horrible destruction and hideous injuries we've caused to Gaza and the Palestinian people. I guess they're not really important in all this?? #FreePalestine #DumpTheDuopoly
“ It’s interesting how the US empire advances interests based on which presidents are best suited for the job.”
I saw this first hand when shitlibs who had bitched about Bush’s war of terror started supporting the war of terror when Obama became president and not only continued Bush’s wars, but started even more wars that killed even more people.
I don't live in the USA, but I would have voted for Jill Stein if I did.
It's so apparent that the ruling parties, the press who support them and other enablers all have a similar agenda, and it's called making the rich richer, everything else be damned.
Their lies and contortions are an insult to anyone's intelligence. Killing people is NOT acceptable at any time. But we all accept killing our own and I'm afraid that is why they kill. So many I see and hear from think killing is what should be done, not necessarily to Palestinians, but just in general. It's like censorship, if you do it, it means you consent. So too if you recommend intentional killing, (that includes by the military) then you're saying they can kill you too. They know this, it's kind of occult knowledge they don't tell us. They get us to speak their agenda into being. If we abhorred intentional killing FOR ANY REASON, then killing would not be acceptable. But people honor killers and so this barbarism continues through the cult-ure.
Oh yeah, I feel fucking terrible for having voted for Jill Stein, for having an ethical foundation, a modicum of compassion, and for being able to recognize that my government, regardless of the occupants of power positions, is the biggest bullshit propaganda engine ever contrived by sick minds.
I voted for Jill twice.
Me too
Three times for me, Dr. John.
Uh, how?
;-/
In my case, I've voted for her for Governor of MA way back when! That's my 3rd vote.
Write-in! 🙂
I wrote-in Tulsi Gabbard with VP Cynthia McKinney in 2020.
I have great love for Ms. McKinny, “primaried” for her support of Palestine.
Me too!
Not to mention the most evil, vicious bunch of murderers in modern history. Maybe they should stop and think. "As ye sow so shall ye reap". Their legacy will be endless violence until they cease to exist.
If that’s so, who will be committing that violence on the Israelis? The Gazans? What does that make THEM? What has happened in Gaza and the WB since 10/7 is because of what happened on 10/7. Gaza reaps what it sows. Hamas is not sustainable. And if the Gazans won’t turn on them, it’s on the Gazans. I thought Trump’s suggestion for what should be done was fanciful and highly unlikely, but this can’t go on as it has with Palestinians, acting as Iran’s proxies, starting one war after another, always getting the shit kicked out of them because they can’t take an orange and make orange juice. Much less a lemon and make lemonade. I think Lee Smith has it pretty close to spot on.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/end-of-palestine
“Here is the stark reality: Gazans, not just the enlisted members of the Hamas brigades, waged an exterminationist campaign against Israel, and they lost. At virtually any other time in history, save the last 75 years, they would be lucky to lose only territory and not have their legend and language permanently deleted from the book of the living.
Trump’s generous offer to the Gazans therefore signals a return to history, but with a twist. Trump has not only spared them, but vowed to provide them with new lives, better lives, work, new homes, a chance to raise their families in peace, an existence not premised on total and permanent war with a more powerful adversary destined to rout them entirely, and would have already done so if not for the objections of other powerful global players.
Trump, in his innovative mercy, has offered to save the Palestinian people from their own history, and give them a new idea to live by. They should thank their maker for the chance to start anew—and give thanks as well to the American president, who realistically promises them a better future, backed by U.S. global power. Given the repeated failure of the multi-decade-long dream of eliminating and replacing the Jews of Israel, it seems unlikely that the Palestinians will receive a better offer.”
Effectively, they have made themselves, Diaspora. They keep FAFO’ing. With the fall of Assad, the Palestinians have lost a land bridge for arms and war making supplies from Iran. Gazans have finally been ‘overtaken by events’, mainly decades of FAFO’ing.
Holy shit! Are you real? You must have drank gallons of the Kool Aid to actually believe that much less express it. The myth that Israel was just unoccupied wasteland is one of the greatest lies in history. A homeland was stolen and the world just stood by. Our propaganda machine has insured people like you will never be capable of seeing the truth. The truth is a homeland was stolen and its occupants brutalized. Try doing some honest research.
Try learning some real history. I didn’t say Israel was an empty wasteland. Jews were there. Large numbers of them. No homeland was stolen. One was created. I’m real. You real? How far is that 1970’s stoner lingo getting you. “Are you real?” Look, did you read the piece by Lee Smith. He’s a “real” journalist and author. If you’re objecting to my quote from his article, take it up with him. He makes a lot of good points. Go publish a responding piece. Maybe on some place like Substack. You can start your intro paragraph: “Holy shit! Are you real?”
I’ll go Peter one better.
ARE YOU FOR MOTHERFUCKING REAL? 😁
People like him are not even worth responding to. All it does is aggravate you. They only serve the purpose of driving home how truly ignorant our education/propaganda system is.
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So I read Lee Smith, and all he does is make opinionated pronouncements, where I was expecting some detailed history. I'm far more inclined to believe Jews native to Israel, who recognized and were so appalled by the racism implicit in seeing their Arab neighbors displaced for no valid reason that they were forced to reject Zionism -- have you read Miko Peled's, "The General's Son." That, my friend, is source material from the horse;'s mouth, not some BS from an observer with an apparent axe to grind. And in defense of gypsy, I myself am first-generation, my parents here from Italy early 20th Century. And when they restore Manhattan to its original inhabitants (HA), I'll fucking rejoice as they demolish those monuments to disaster capitalism, which already stole my parents house under eminent domain for peanuts in 1974 -- to build a police station as my dad lay in Florida recovering from a stroke. You think I give a fuck? Think again. And get a fucking grip on the reality as Miko's mom described it. Jews, Christians, Muslims lived in Palestine as neighbors, until Zionists couldn't bear the thought that any sort of social order could be valid other than that described in a set of ancient fucking FABLES. Unimaginably sick shit.
Well said, Vin! Your knowledge and eloquence always impressed me.
I have a bit of the Italian myself, being Mediterranean 🙂
Couldn't help myself, gypsy, My Brooklyn street hackles popped up bigtime at this bullshit about large numbers of Jews being there, as if no one else was; plus ignoring the fact that most of the ultimate Jewish inhabitants, including Mr. Satanyahu, were Askenazics from Ukraine, Poland etc.; hardly native. And the 1970's stoner lingo comment got my Dago blood really boiling. Would like to see my 1970 self greet his 1970 self on a Brooklyn street. We'd see what the outcome of that confrontation would yield. No bullshit artist allowed in my old neighborhood without confrontation.
Uhhhuh. I just bet you are a real Luca Brasi type. I can tell. Ex college professor and all. Romans. Perhaps the biggest colonizers in all of world history, one of whom now complains that there weren’t enough Jews in old Palestine or old Judaea to justify Israel. Of course, the Romans have quite a history with the Jews in Judaea, right? Your historical hatred, Dago blood boiling and all, showing a bit? You can give your NY Brooklyn tough hackles rest. From one old man to another. I’m Scotch Irish.
Vin, your comment literally made me laugh out loud… I love it!
Us Flintstones take no bullshit either! I may be a country hick now, but it’s something I had to learn; I wasn’t born that way. I too have the Mediterranean temperament and I just cannot let shit go!
You can take the girl outta Flint, but ya can’t take Flint outta the girl 😉
Put down the crack pipe, MFer.
You don’t know SHIT about the history of Palestine, stolen from its original inhabitants by an Amerikkkan -backed U.N. resolution. It’s THEIR LAND: WTF don’t you get about that?
I saw a great meme on YouTube. An elderly Palestinian man was sitting on the ruins of his home. He said, quote, “This is worth more to me than everything you have in America”.
Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, cause the Pals ain’t goin’ NOWHERE.
I don’t take anyone using the word “Amerikkkan” seriously. Neither should you.
Btw, out of curiosity. What “land” are you sittin on cowgirl? Is it yours? Or a Native American tribe’s? Have you thought that through yet?
I don’t give a flyin’ fuck if you don’t take “Amerikkka” seriously.
Though I have Mohawk DNA, I reside on Chippewa land. I honor them every day by ecological land practices on my farm and I frequently visit a nearby sacred burial ground to thank them and tell them that their memory will never die. While I realize that’s insufficient MY parents had no part in the genocide of Native Americans; I am first-generation on my father’s side, and second on my mother’s.
Don’t fuck with cowgirls if ya know what’s good for ya. We pack pistols, both actual and verbal.
😁
Love it. I live in a Metis community. More people should try listening to the downtrodden or maybe walking in their shoes. For the record I am white. While I grew up in the '60's I have never touched any type of drug. I won't even take prescription drugs. While most people don't live this lifestyle I believe for me it keeps my mind sharp and allows me to see a lot that many don't.
At the county recorder’s office, is the land title in your name or some Mohawk or Chippewa? If some Chippewa shows up on your doorstep and tells you, “Leave now you damn colonizer!”, are you gonna skedaddle? It’s nice that your mommy and daddy made good for you on Chippewa land. Your pride in stating that your parents had nothing to do with what you call the genocide of Native Americans is an accident of your place on a timeline of history, perhaps 100 years? In Israel, there too are Jews living on land whose parents had nothing to do with what happened in 1947-49. Or today. You’re not so fussy about your land title history, but ever so fussy about land in Israel while not knowing very much of the Jews history there. That history certainly outpaces and has outlasted yours and your parents in Amerikkka.
Reap what you have sown.
How dare you to be so s... ?
So dismissive of the Ds? So rejecting of the Rs? So much of a pariah doomed to the hinterlands outside the golden Zionist-decorated palace of the duopoly? Yes, that's me -- so doomed to be seen as "unpatriotic" because I perceive the depth of rot, of corruption in Mainstream 'Merica? Yep - but at least the air smells breathable here.
Vin, high five from one “unpatriot” to another 😁
High five back to you, gypsy. And I was just thinking about you and laughing to myself because you have the best names for Bibi. I love "Satanyahu", and of course, "Bibi Nosferatu". We unpatriot pariahs gotta find humor where we can amidst the slime and muck of the American political scene
I’m getting more unpatriotic everyday. Still love the beauty of places like Montana, the Smokies in Tn., the north Ga. mountains and the beautiful beaches and water of the Gulf in AL. & FL. but the government can go f**k itself along with Israhell.😢☮️🇵🇸
That's what's so sad --- there are still so many beautiful places in this country; it's a place with such potential -- until you get to the a-holes who aspire to run it. And the a-holes who, believing their propaganda, vote for them.
I voted Jill Stein also and am damn proud of it.😢☮️🇵🇸
nothing to be proud of though. Get ready to have worms for breakfast , dinner and supper. Check kloser who are they.
America First in Genocide.
Last in human rights.
I want a t-shirt and a bumper sticker with this slogan. It says it all!
America First in Genocide.
Last in human rights.
Hi TRC
I want one that says
DON’T BLAME ME, I VOTED FOR JILL STEIN!
😁
Israel is a Terrorist State that owns USA Democrats and Republicans and others. Free Gaza.
Liberals (in the American, not Australian, sense) taunting those who refused to vote Democratic on the grounds of the Gaza onslaught really have no concept of the word “choice”. Expecting anyone who empathized with the Palestinians to make a choice between bombardment and forced displacement is akin to making a r*pe victim choose whether they want to be violated with or without lube.
There was always another option. That is, a Democratic Party that campaigned on preserving Palestinian sovereignty, on standing up to Israel and working out a peace deal that involved protecting both peoples’ right to exist (notwithstanding the injustice of 1948 and ongoing illegal settler activity), with Israel told that failure to agree to such a deal would result in the abrupt cutoff of military aid. But no, that wasn’t possible because AIPAC hedged their bets to ensure the American people had a Clayton’s choice. It is this perverse system that needs to be torn down.
So stop gaslighting those who made the only moral choices they had, be it Jill Stein or the couch at home.
Why not move the israelis out to another country? Africa maybe. They are the interlopers.
The USA is the nation which has continuously rewarded Israel's Zionist administrations and 'leaders' for victimising and persecuting Palestinians. The USA was also one of those nations that carried out the partitioning of Palestine in order to create the State of Israel so, let the USA provide the land for an Israeli state and return Palestine to its rightful owners, its people.
Wait a minute--the US has taken enough land away from the indigenous people of North America. They don't need to be taking any more to house the Zy-0-nists. Maybe we ought to just let them all ride Musk's rocket to Mars or someplace where they can't hurt anyone else ever again?
Musk doesn't have enough rockets.
We could just squeeze them all into what he's got.
Nah.
Plenty of land in Texas and Florida. Make the New Zions in the lands of the Evangelicals.
I like Aaron Maté's solution. Clear out the Jewish settlers from the West Bank, move the Gazans to those settlements while Gaza is rebuilt.
Africa has enough problems. They don't need Zionist garbage. Germany would be much better.
Hell, no! Make that Florida.
What have Africans ever done to you?
Ten, I wouldn’t wish them on the Africans.
Let them go home to Poland, Russia and Noo Yawk Shitty.
Why? They’ve been there first and all along. The idea that the Jews are somehow interlopers in what is now the nation state of Israel, is fanciful nonsense. 75 years of extermination isn’t ideation and war losing has resulted in Gaza as rubble. Everyone in the ME, save for the Persians in Iran, have moved on from the Palestinians. UNWRA is not sustainable for them.
Send them all to South Georgia Island, I’m sure the UK would be happy to give it to them.
Think of all the displaced penguins! Never!!
US imperialism aka US foreign policy is identical no matter the party maybe with marginal differences on the edges. But in the end its outcomes are identical; death, destruction, immiseration, extraction, exploitation & land grabs by monsters fueled by hyper-capitalism
🎯💯 Well said!
indeed, and maybe the 'teamwork' as described above wasn't even necessary. maybe kamala would have been even better at selling a more convincing 'humanitarian ethnic cleansing' narrative to the western vassals. trump has far less 'credibility' and pr-image on that matter, imo. it'd be more like:'we've pressured the israeli's to let the palestinians leave gaza (temporarily) so they can return at some unspecified time in the future.' (and whadya know, the israeli's won't let them back in for 'security reasons', but what can the us do? israel is a sovereign nation with a right to defend itself ...). anyways, 80% sure that this intent of outcome would have been pretty much the same.
When Team D is in the Oval Office, they insist on some self-serving human rights talk.
Team R serves the genocide and aggression neat.
The express joy of Team D cultists tells us much about them and their inner lives.
And damn, is it ever ugly.
Caitlin, IMHO all Biden-Harris/Democrat bootlickers are EVERY BIT as bad/evil as all Trump/Republican bootlickers. Sometimes I'm hardpressed to see the difference (except over issues of lesser importance).
I will admit that it took me a while (with the help of your articles and the commentators of your Substack) to see just how bad/evil the "so-called liberal Democrat supporters" really are.
Thank you for continuing to expand my awareness with your incisive dismantling of narratives. Much love and stay strong for the fight yet to come!
If trumpers are decent human beings, they’ll denounce his recent statements: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/im-appalled-at-what-im-hearing-from
Genocide is evil and they should not support it.
Trumpets aren’t decent people anymore than are/ were Biden/ Harris supporters. Decent people don’t support genocide, provide bombs to murder babies, children, other humans! In fact decent people protest these actions as well the presence of War Criminal Netanyahu s presence in the USA.
Shameful that the criminal Netanyahu is even allowed in the U.S. Shameful and repulsive. So similar to Hitler. We need to protest loudly. No American should stand for it. For that matter, no Jew should either.
No he SHOULD have been allowed in. And then arrested.
The psychopathic clown has replaced the senile butcher. Otherwise the genocidal show carries on. What I want to know is until when? When will the vast majority of Americans wake up from their navel gazing stupor and do something about it.
Most likely when the nukes are raining down. Of course by then it will be too late.
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Trump and BiBi know their audience. Most Americans have moved around quite a bit and usually, but not always, don’t feel a deep connection to one place. Few have what might be considered an ancestral home and so they don’t grasp the love of a homeland like the Palestians do. The fact we’ve never had to directly fight to defend our country makes it hard to understand others’ willingness to do so.
My son-in-law thought Trump’s plan showed a lot of common sense. He believes the superficial, pro-Zionist news and he has lots of company. He really believes this is some kind of religious war and “the Jews have suffered enough and Israel is theirs by Biblical decree.” I know very few people who understand this is genocide and not Israel’s “right to defend itself against terrorists.” But Trump and BiBi know their audience—the distortion of history, Americans’ indifference to world events and vague religious ideas have deep roots.
>>"Most Americans have moved around quite a bit and usually, but not always, don’t feel a deep connection to one place."
I can relate. I've lived in quite a few countries and can't really call ANY country/place my home.
>>"Few have what might be considered an ancestral home and so they don’t grasp the love of a homeland like the Palestians do. "
Completely agree!
Chang, While agreeing with the sentiments you have quoted, I think there's a flip-side to this story. We who have left our roots do not owe loyalty to any country or culture. I like to think we are internationalists, part of the human race.
Yes, I agree with you too!
Heh you must have read a diary on daily kos about Trump’s plan.
“ But hopefully it also speaks to everyone who either voted for Donald Trump, some third-party gadfly or just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris because of what they thought about the actions — or supposed lack thereof --of the Biden administration regarding the Israel/Palestine conflict.”
They rarely raised an objection about Biden’s support of Israel and many blamed Hamas for what Israel was doing. They even said the line:
“If Hamas would just release the hostages…”
DK is shitlib central.
And they said not a word when Blinken tried to move Palestinians into Egypt. But only Trump is Hitler in their eyes.
Blinken is just as bad as Netanyahu. He is a dyed in the wool zionist.
He's a literal war criminal, no less than Henry Kissinger. The outlets that give him and the other genociders a pass are doing their part for genocide as well and should be hounded out of existence. Imagine staking your territory out as "anti-Trump fascism" but flexible on genocide! WTAF??
Or "supposed lack thereof..."? Was this fiction writer asleep the last 16 months? How about an accounting of Biden's meaningful actions in stopping the genocide if there were any? The fucking gall of these people who carry water for Israel and the empire every day but have no idea they're doing it...
As for why israel plays such a supremely important and prominent role for the elite rulers, it seems to me that it might have to do with what a perfect polorizing/dividing agent it functions as. After all, if you're a tiny group of billionaire oligarchs ruling over the vast majority of humanity, then obviously your number one goal and survival strategy is to make sure that the 99% are not united against you but are divided among themselves, hating and fighting each other, right? Well, there doesn't seem to be a more dividing force on this planet than religious tribalism and hostility, and you won't find a more tribalist ANTI-UNITY ethnocentric exclusivist divisive force on this planet than Zionism - that believes that those humans who had a very specific (and childish the God-ignorant) religious label placed on us at birth (in this case, the label of 'jewish') are of a much greater importance and value than the rest of humanity.
And this tribalist exclucivist force achieves its polarizing/antagonizing/dividing effect (the effect that greatly benefits the ruling elite) to an even greater magnitude especially when it is intentionally imposed upon an already existing civilization, as was done with the placement of an exclusivist supremacist tribe right smack in the middle of the muslim world (and also precisely placed to occupy the only narrow land bridge there is between Asia and Africa) to provide for the oligarch dividers-and-rulers of humanity with what they call "our unsinkable aircraft carrier in west Asia") to create as much friction, antagonism and polarization as possible among the 99% (and again, the division and pitting of the masses of humanity against each other is clearly the number one goal and survival strategy of a tiny minority elite group that rules over the vast majority)
In this sense, the billionaires' supremacist exclusivist ethnocentric ANTI-UNITY zionist colony in west Asia is like the gift that keeps on giving for the ruling class, creating endless antagonism and war not only in west asia, but also endless polarization and division of 99% all across the planet. What more could an oligarchic elite possibly ask for?
A thoughtful and quite reasonable analysis of the 21st Century version of divide and conquer, with the proviso that what never changes is the role of religions in setting up the foundations for the entire tribal "otherness" antagonism. Perhaps a good initial rectification step would be fewer clerics of all stripes.
"You could have had a holocaust overseen by a competent and articulate woman of color. Now you get ethnic cleansing from an orange buffoon who tweets mean words. "
I would have never believed it, but today I actually saw a reply to a friend's online posting along these lines... Blaming those of us who can see through the oligarchs' puppets in the White House and know who is really pulling the strings and why they're doing it. But noooooooooo! We're all selfish morally superior types who wanted to rain on their Khive parade. Not a mention of the horrible destruction and hideous injuries we've caused to Gaza and the Palestinian people. I guess they're not really important in all this?? #FreePalestine #DumpTheDuopoly
This! It’s exactly this.
“ It’s interesting how the US empire advances interests based on which presidents are best suited for the job.”
I saw this first hand when shitlibs who had bitched about Bush’s war of terror started supporting the war of terror when Obama became president and not only continued Bush’s wars, but started even more wars that killed even more people.
You perfectly illustrated the mad functioning of the two party duopoly. The yin and the yang of the US empire, constantly balancing each other out.
I hope in a hundred years the Palestinian genocide and ethnic cleansing will be remembered as the truly disgusting thing that it is
Hopefully sooner than that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3sILfAYQ8w
Yes, hopefully much much sooner
I don't live in the USA, but I would have voted for Jill Stein if I did.
It's so apparent that the ruling parties, the press who support them and other enablers all have a similar agenda, and it's called making the rich richer, everything else be damned.
Their lies and contortions are an insult to anyone's intelligence. Killing people is NOT acceptable at any time. But we all accept killing our own and I'm afraid that is why they kill. So many I see and hear from think killing is what should be done, not necessarily to Palestinians, but just in general. It's like censorship, if you do it, it means you consent. So too if you recommend intentional killing, (that includes by the military) then you're saying they can kill you too. They know this, it's kind of occult knowledge they don't tell us. They get us to speak their agenda into being. If we abhorred intentional killing FOR ANY REASON, then killing would not be acceptable. But people honor killers and so this barbarism continues through the cult-ure.