Time to listen to our top peacemakers no matter how old or forgotten. If Permanent Ceasefire isn’t called and implemented soon -- what’s left to discuss and who’s left for whom ti vote??
Long past time --- at least 3 months ago or more, Miko Peled called for the actually necessary steps: in addition to a permanent ceasefire and moratorium on weapons deliveries, a no-fly zone over Gaza, enforced by the US; which struck me as a sort of reparation for war crimes, by the enabler physically excluding its IDF partner-in-murder from that airspace. No armaments, no flyovers: shut down the entire IDF operation. No compromises or half-measures.
Miko Peled is a sane and humane voice in a sea of demons.. what he’s proposing sounds sane to anyone that would want peace for the sake of preserving human life but we all know that IzraHell is not that entity.. it can never happen IMO.
yes, it is quite confusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtMfj36aCk . 800k? palestinians of which 750k were ethnically cleansed and displaced in the nakba indeed qualifies as genocide, i'd say. and the west bank and gaza is indeed far too little room for 14 million people. they really should be settling outside these territories, maybe to the adjacent parts of palestine where their ancestors lived.
They were the biggest at one time but I think the Americans have surpassed their grandfathers in Britain as the world's biggest a**holes that finance every white settler colonial project on the planet. But "thank you for your service, Great Britain" for teaching the US how to do it so well.
That is not a genocide. Thank you for proving my point. By the way, when Israel handed over Gaza, it was, in fact. Much greener than before October 07. 2023. Hamas has sucked the money, prosperity, freedom, and very life out if Gaza. All for Iranian mullahs.
Thank you Feral Finster. We seem to have got entangled with a mob of clueless fanatics who wouldn't know good from evil, even if it hits them in the face.
This is for Hunterson7 and Jojo - so what is your definition of "genocide"?
There is clearly an opaque, tenacious philosophy that claims that *nothing* is real, and *everything* is created by humans and their will. Its adherents are apparently the descendants of Protagoras, and they ignore Socrates' complementary humility, "I know that I know nothing".
The most serious devotees are hard at work at the moment in the US, *still* telling us "This obvious dementia is not what it looks like. The DNC and MSM pooh-bahs will tell you when it is dementia."
I wonder if dementia is contagious? After 9 months of this slaughter of an unarmed civilian population, and the torture of thousands taken back to Israel, I think I may be succumbing to some kind of dementia. Oh yeah, Happy 4th of July! Ain't America great!?
Satanyahoo is an arrogant, psychopathic prick, demanding more Amerikkkan taxpayer money to complete his genocide.
And any Amerikkkan pol who kowtows to him, and AIPAC, should be arrested for murder.
BTW, just WHO is going to rebuild Gaza? My bet is the fore mentioned Amerikkkan taxpayer, cleaning up what Isra-Heil has wrought. Though I’d prefer it’d be China. I’d love to see China with a military installation in Gaza.
Gaza isn't going to be rebuilt. It will become expanded Israel. That's the whole idea and Oct. 7 was probably encouraged for that very reason. NYC synagogues are already hosting realtors selling land in Gaza.
so iran, china, north korea and russia are sponsored to create orchestrated pre planned wars - hm. i feel like something is missing :-) (where's the centralised globalist hub?)
I thought I heard an innuendo in that rant suggesting all "conservative" marriages are built on rape. Shame on you, Caitlin.
Do you yet begin to realize in your quest for moral superiority and the virtue crown, that you have long since beat this topic beyond death and into numbness? The wisdom to know when traction is lost. Where is that?
When reading the first part I joked to myself “C’mon Caitlin, surely some conservative couples enjoy sex.” The ending lines kinda took it next level.
Perhaps the ending lines refer to anyone who doesn’t, knowing what we know, “put up a fight” or engage in the “struggle” against all we know is wrong. I dunno. Altogether, Caitlin wrote another great piece.
Howard...Words, in and of themselves, are limiting... which is why dialogue is infinitely more important than censorship. You can always try to change someone's mind, unless you have censored it.... Silence is not always golden, and more often self-indulgent.
Example... "social liberalism' is a term which means almost nothing to me, although it might mean something profound for others. If you ask one hundred people as to the meaning of 'social liberalism', you may receive one hundred different interpretations. Another example... at one time to be a 'liberal' in the U.S.A. was shunned, while at the same time 'liberals' made up the governing party in Canada. i.e., words, in and of themselves, are self-limiting .......
I don't know about you, but man we're sure going way the fuck backwards in this country. And the Republican politicians (mostly entitled, old, corrupt white men) are leading the way.
"...in that rant suggesting all "conservative" marriages are built on rape. Shame on you, Caitlin."
Walden, I suggest you re-read what Caitlin wrote and maybe you could come back with an accurate, intelligent, and rational understanding of what she wrote.
💔🌹💔 Dear soul, tragically his sacrifice influenced no one to change, just like the Buddhist monks who did the same thing in Vietnam. But their acts expressing deep resistance and love in its highest form will stand always as rebuke of the inhuman satanic dealers of death.
That sacred part within me that knows right from wrong is quite alive. I don’t accept any candidate that supports Israel’s genocide of Palestinians , harm to human beings and the environment.
Re the gullible: Part of their philosophy is having extreme contempt for anyone with general intelligence challenges, as well as against the highly capable whenever they have lapses. It's become so bad over recent decades it's now the air we breathe.
In fact, they're now itching for these unfortunates (and their defenders) to slowly die off in ways that encourage the victims to blame themselves, so that that's how history will record it. Darwin Award winners, haha. This is how they can, seamlessly, vociferously defend democracy in words while ruthlessly destroying it in actions.
Their problem with democracy is a conflation of the sane moral right (of 1 person = 1 vote for representation, i.e. the public's sifting out of conscious liars and unconscious incompetents just as much as making group policy decisions, given an adequate free press etc.) with an insane functional right (of incompetents to directly control and run things).
I had one older man recently explain to me that one person's truth is different from another person's truth..... his way of evading, mentally and conversationally, problematic facts that made his position on the open border ridiculous.
The concept of false flag is never discussed and consequently the sheeple never thinks it is possible that the government or its agents are evil mofo. So, Natenyahu started, and keep funding Hamas to create divisions amongst the Palestinians. That fact makes it easy to understand that evil Natenyahu has ordered the October 7 violence. Also, he immediately used the words " this our 9/11". The total world media went into a covid propaganda mode. Subhuman Hamas killed 1000 Jews, and "Istael has the right to defend itself". Theater and clowns show many STUPID people fell for hook line and sinker. 6 million babies were beheaded....
Except that Hamas, and their Iranisn masters, explicitly call for killing all Jews, worldwide. Israel has existed longer than many other nations in the world. They have an explicit right to self defense. Iran/Hamas deliberately use Palestinians civilians as shields against retaliation for the war they started. So if anyone here actually cares about Palestinians, then call for Iran to get its nose out of Israeli business and for Hamas to surrender.
Wow. That you decline to discuss Syria, Sudan, China, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, on going I creases of violence across Europe, the actual policies of Hamas makes you look like a cheap poser. You can do better.
There is a time to pretend nothing happened, a time to forget, ... But, there is also a time when someone asks you to account for the genocide you commit. And this time is NOW.
Time to listen to our top peacemakers no matter how old or forgotten. If Permanent Ceasefire isn’t called and implemented soon -- what’s left to discuss and who’s left for whom ti vote??
Long past time --- at least 3 months ago or more, Miko Peled called for the actually necessary steps: in addition to a permanent ceasefire and moratorium on weapons deliveries, a no-fly zone over Gaza, enforced by the US; which struck me as a sort of reparation for war crimes, by the enabler physically excluding its IDF partner-in-murder from that airspace. No armaments, no flyovers: shut down the entire IDF operation. No compromises or half-measures.
Miko Peled is a sane and humane voice in a sea of demons.. what he’s proposing sounds sane to anyone that would want peace for the sake of preserving human life but we all know that IzraHell is not that entity.. it can never happen IMO.
That is sort of the point. The genocide soon will be a fait accompli.
i've seen some actually use that kind of argument, like 'there's more palestinians now than there were in 1948. how can there be a genocide?'
Definitely an interesting logic (or illogic) behind that statement.
yes, it is quite confusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtMfj36aCk . 800k? palestinians of which 750k were ethnically cleansed and displaced in the nakba indeed qualifies as genocide, i'd say. and the west bank and gaza is indeed far too little room for 14 million people. they really should be settling outside these territories, maybe to the adjacent parts of palestine where their ancestors lived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
i'm sorry, my bad for assuming that the displacement out of their ancestral homes might have caused them serious mental harm.
Eugenics and Ethnic Cleansing: The Values that Unite the US and Israel https://www.palestinechronicle.com/eugenics-and-ethnic-cleansing-the-values-that-unite-the-us-and-israel/
They were the biggest at one time but I think the Americans have surpassed their grandfathers in Britain as the world's biggest a**holes that finance every white settler colonial project on the planet. But "thank you for your service, Great Britain" for teaching the US how to do it so well.
Jojo you speak of these human beings as vermin. Your people are inhuman.
Yes, the ruling elites sure have suffered enough. Someone has to speak up for them.
“Jojo”. Cute name. Reminds me of “Bibi”.
Hey “Jojo”, just what the fuck would one call someone who lived in PALESTINE? Chinese?
Are you as shallow as your comment suggest? Or just a racist bigot.
Note to other Substackers: You can block people on this platform. Then their comments just go away. It's a blessing.
I’m not sure how “Gypsy” is a shallow name. Some of my ancestors were Gypsies and I have the heart and soul of a Gypsy.
Are you as opposite in character as your name implies? Fuck off, I already know the answer to that 😁
You quoting Golda Bitch Meir says it all! 😂😂😂
Aren’t you trolling the wrong website, “Jojo”? Perhaps you’d find hasbarabullshit.com more to your liking, ya old Zionazi.
"This obvious genocide is not what it looks like. The IDF will tell you when it is doing a genocide".
In one satiric sentence Caitlin says all that is wrong with the world!
IIRC, the Israeli government pretty much has said that is what they are doing.
You don't recall correctly.
After 5 seconds on Google.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/31/israeli-minister-reiterates-calls-for-palestinians-to-leave-gaza
That is not a genocide. Thank you for proving my point. By the way, when Israel handed over Gaza, it was, in fact. Much greener than before October 07. 2023. Hamas has sucked the money, prosperity, freedom, and very life out if Gaza. All for Iranian mullahs.
No sympathy for the lies of evil Zionazis monsters. I'm ashamed to be a citizen of the stupid, heartless, duped bloody empire USA.
Ethnic cleansing is a genocide. And I suppose that Hamas is bombing themselves.
Because government officials have no influence on government policy.
Anyway, you're for ethnic cleansing and/or outright genocide. Thanks for clearing that up.
Thank you Feral Finster. We seem to have got entangled with a mob of clueless fanatics who wouldn't know good from evil, even if it hits them in the face.
This is for Hunterson7 and Jojo - so what is your definition of "genocide"?
There is clearly an opaque, tenacious philosophy that claims that *nothing* is real, and *everything* is created by humans and their will. Its adherents are apparently the descendants of Protagoras, and they ignore Socrates' complementary humility, "I know that I know nothing".
The most serious devotees are hard at work at the moment in the US, *still* telling us "This obvious dementia is not what it looks like. The DNC and MSM pooh-bahs will tell you when it is dementia."
I wonder if dementia is contagious? After 9 months of this slaughter of an unarmed civilian population, and the torture of thousands taken back to Israel, I think I may be succumbing to some kind of dementia. Oh yeah, Happy 4th of July! Ain't America great!?
But what is reality? Does any of it make a lick of sense?
It is only "genocide" to those eho have no understanding of the trrm " genocide".
I gotta term for you. Mass slaughter of human beings. What does THAT mean to you? Anything?
genocide is defined in the un genocide convention.
Listen who's talking ...
This goes to exactly Caitlin's point: blockheads like you want us to disbelieve our own eyes and ears.
Hello Jamenta, They are blockheads, if they think they can make us disbelieve what is happening before our very eyes.
We are witnessing the next phase of propaganda and the 'new inhuman' twisting fanatical beliefs as accepted truth.... .
Hahaha hunterson. Evildoers.
I don't give a rat's ass for Israel. USA has our own problems.
Satanyahoo is an arrogant, psychopathic prick, demanding more Amerikkkan taxpayer money to complete his genocide.
And any Amerikkkan pol who kowtows to him, and AIPAC, should be arrested for murder.
BTW, just WHO is going to rebuild Gaza? My bet is the fore mentioned Amerikkkan taxpayer, cleaning up what Isra-Heil has wrought. Though I’d prefer it’d be China. I’d love to see China with a military installation in Gaza.
Gaza isn't going to be rebuilt. It will become expanded Israel. That's the whole idea and Oct. 7 was probably encouraged for that very reason. NYC synagogues are already hosting realtors selling land in Gaza.
Iran will see about that. Pakistan has offered them their nukes.
No shit Sherlock. You think I don’t fucking know that?
so iran, china, north korea and russia are sponsored to create orchestrated pre planned wars - hm. i feel like something is missing :-) (where's the centralised globalist hub?)
🙄
USA is the biggest terrorist on the planet…
We have been in more than 200 wars since USA started
And what is the Black Nobility?
How does the Vatican's role work?
Yeah and one of them is Israaeel
To Andy Bach
😜🎯
Sorry Andy Bach. The emojis were meant for Lottie P!
Unfortunately, they are one and the same...
but do you give a rat's ass for the palestinians?
I thought I heard an innuendo in that rant suggesting all "conservative" marriages are built on rape. Shame on you, Caitlin.
Do you yet begin to realize in your quest for moral superiority and the virtue crown, that you have long since beat this topic beyond death and into numbness? The wisdom to know when traction is lost. Where is that?
I know I didn’t appreciate that either. And I’m not conservative
When reading the first part I joked to myself “C’mon Caitlin, surely some conservative couples enjoy sex.” The ending lines kinda took it next level.
Perhaps the ending lines refer to anyone who doesn’t, knowing what we know, “put up a fight” or engage in the “struggle” against all we know is wrong. I dunno. Altogether, Caitlin wrote another great piece.
"Caitlin is still a social liberal in many ways."
Howard...Words, in and of themselves, are limiting... which is why dialogue is infinitely more important than censorship. You can always try to change someone's mind, unless you have censored it.... Silence is not always golden, and more often self-indulgent.
Example... "social liberalism' is a term which means almost nothing to me, although it might mean something profound for others. If you ask one hundred people as to the meaning of 'social liberalism', you may receive one hundred different interpretations. Another example... at one time to be a 'liberal' in the U.S.A. was shunned, while at the same time 'liberals' made up the governing party in Canada. i.e., words, in and of themselves, are self-limiting .......
Republicans Push BAN On 'No Fault' Divorce via The Kyle Kulinski Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fudNdX6sBo
I don't know about you, but man we're sure going way the fuck backwards in this country. And the Republican politicians (mostly entitled, old, corrupt white men) are leading the way.
"...in that rant suggesting all "conservative" marriages are built on rape. Shame on you, Caitlin."
Walden, I suggest you re-read what Caitlin wrote and maybe you could come back with an accurate, intelligent, and rational understanding of what she wrote.
oops, back to supporting the genocide? damn, she almost had you on her side if it weren't for that f*cking handmaids tale analogy.
He looks like Dracula cartoon...
PS: It would be Aaron Bushnell’s 26th Birthday today. Happy birthday Aaron, you had more humanity than 99% of all of us my dear brother.
You showed the world what it truly means to regret being a part of a genocide.
You showed us what it means to be a human being.
https://substack.com/@empiresdown/note/c-60560362?r=byea&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
💔🌹💔 Dear soul, tragically his sacrifice influenced no one to change, just like the Buddhist monks who did the same thing in Vietnam. But their acts expressing deep resistance and love in its highest form will stand always as rebuke of the inhuman satanic dealers of death.
Follow the money... Palestine isn't rich ...
Uh…offshore gas reserves. Or is it a coincidence that Israhell is blocking development since the discovery in 2018?
They have been fighting for almost 3000 years...
All humans have been fighting forever. That is no excuse for current US genocide in Gaza or for US opposition to a two-state solution for decades.
That sacred part within me that knows right from wrong is quite alive. I don’t accept any candidate that supports Israel’s genocide of Palestinians , harm to human beings and the environment.
This is basically what liberals mean when they say "it's nuanced!"
Translation into English: glib symbol manipulation can have the gullible thinking black is white and cats are dogs.
Re the gullible: Part of their philosophy is having extreme contempt for anyone with general intelligence challenges, as well as against the highly capable whenever they have lapses. It's become so bad over recent decades it's now the air we breathe.
In fact, they're now itching for these unfortunates (and their defenders) to slowly die off in ways that encourage the victims to blame themselves, so that that's how history will record it. Darwin Award winners, haha. This is how they can, seamlessly, vociferously defend democracy in words while ruthlessly destroying it in actions.
Their problem with democracy is a conflation of the sane moral right (of 1 person = 1 vote for representation, i.e. the public's sifting out of conscious liars and unconscious incompetents just as much as making group policy decisions, given an adequate free press etc.) with an insane functional right (of incompetents to directly control and run things).
I had one older man recently explain to me that one person's truth is different from another person's truth..... his way of evading, mentally and conversationally, problematic facts that made his position on the open border ridiculous.
The concept of false flag is never discussed and consequently the sheeple never thinks it is possible that the government or its agents are evil mofo. So, Natenyahu started, and keep funding Hamas to create divisions amongst the Palestinians. That fact makes it easy to understand that evil Natenyahu has ordered the October 7 violence. Also, he immediately used the words " this our 9/11". The total world media went into a covid propaganda mode. Subhuman Hamas killed 1000 Jews, and "Istael has the right to defend itself". Theater and clowns show many STUPID people fell for hook line and sinker. 6 million babies were beheaded....
You seem to be saying that Netanyahu is blameless. What do you mean to say about that?
Zommbies they all be. The living dead following zommbie leaders. Mindlessly. WAKE UP....please.
Jewish people will suffer hugely, all due to the monomania of one man: an ugly little creature called Bibi.
Not obvious? It's been obvious for some time now... Here's an article from 4 years ago that would tell you how obvious Israel's genocide would be. Eugenics and Ethnic Cleansing: The Values that Unite the US and Israel https://www.palestinechronicle.com/eugenics-and-ethnic-cleansing-the-values-that-unite-the-us-and-israel/
Except that Hamas, and their Iranisn masters, explicitly call for killing all Jews, worldwide. Israel has existed longer than many other nations in the world. They have an explicit right to self defense. Iran/Hamas deliberately use Palestinians civilians as shields against retaliation for the war they started. So if anyone here actually cares about Palestinians, then call for Iran to get its nose out of Israeli business and for Hamas to surrender.
Wow. That you decline to discuss Syria, Sudan, China, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, on going I creases of violence across Europe, the actual policies of Hamas makes you look like a cheap poser. You can do better.
"The IDF will tell you when it is doing a genocide."
Correction:
"The US Jewish Lobby will tell you when the IDF is doing genocide."
There is a time to pretend nothing happened, a time to forget, ... But, there is also a time when someone asks you to account for the genocide you commit. And this time is NOW.
Can only hope. They have forfeited their right to exist.
that would be a good start
The US specialises in foreign interventions.