It's true. First, Palestinians didn't exist prior to 1948. There were called Arabs then, not a separate culture. Second, there were less than 800k Palestinians (nee Palestine Arabs) in 1948. Now there are 14 million, far more than could be supported by the land and natural resources of Gaza and the West Bank!
It's clear that Palestinians are good at one thing - making babies. I wonder how many are "creators" on JustFans? [lol]
yes, it is quite confusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtMfj36aCk . 800k? palestinians of which 750k were ethnically cleansed and displaced in the nakba indeed qualifies as genocide, i'd say. and the west bank and gaza is indeed far too little room for 14 million people. they really should be settling outside these territories, maybe to the adjacent parts of palestine where their ancestors lived.
"palestinians of which 750k were ethnically cleansed and displaced in the nakba indeed qualifies as genocide, i'd say"
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Nope, your not allowed to make your own definitions for a word. Genocide is about KILLING off most or all of a population. Displacement does not qualify.
"The deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular race or nation. The term is recorded from the 1940s, in relation to Nazi rule in occupied Europe."
From: genocide in The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable »
Genocide is understood by most to be the gravest crime against humanity.
It is defined as a mass extermination of a particular group of people - exemplified by the efforts of the Nazis to eradicate the Jewish population in the 1940s.
But behind that simple definition is a complicated tangle of legal concepts concerning what constitutes genocide and when the term can be applied.
Clearly, Israel is NOT attempting genocide of the people who call themselves Palestinians as, if one were to believe the numbers put forth by the Hamas Health Agency of 40k killed, that number is only approximately 1.5% or so of the total Gazan population pre-Oct.7th, which is nowhere near large enough to be considered a "mass extermination"
As for your cite of the UN definition in Wikipedia, as a bleeding heart organization always looking for contributions to help some downtrodden group or another, the UN chose to flexibly extend the meaning of genocide to the degree that the word covers all sorts of harms that do not match the standard meaning of the word in degree or in focus. In other words, the UN definition is bogus.
But if you people insist on using a word with many meanings, perhaps you could qualify it by stating that you are using the UN definition and not the OED or most others definition.
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Substack sucks w/o the ability to use RTF to selectively highlight information.
Jojo your beloved state consists of Zionazis who have destroyed the infrastructure of Gaza, murdered probably over 100k of Palestinians, the original lawful owners of all the land and are now adding intentional STARVATION to their list of evil crimes. Bleeding hearts once bled for all of you, but no more for those who support this mass murder. You are terrorists with evil hearts.
Prompted involuntary immigration has happened a million times in this century to millions of people - but somehow the palywood script is sold left and right globally non stop 24/7
While not one Arab country raises a finger to help 🐑
They were the biggest at one time but I think the Americans have surpassed their grandfathers in Britain as the world's biggest a**holes that finance every white settler colonial project on the planet. But "thank you for your service, Great Britain" for teaching the US how to do it so well.
- Palestinians were shooting at Egyptians prior to attacking Israel this time. People in the region have long memories. When the Palestinians attempted to murder King Hussain of Jordan after he took them in. That ended much of any sympathy their Arab brothers had for them. People look at the disaster that is Lebanon, Lebanon was were the Palestinisns ran to after there unsuccessful murder attempt on the king of Jordan, and they quickly destroyed Lebanon. Beirut was Paris of the middle east and a play ground for young wealthy arabs. Now Beirut resembles a bomb crater and no one goes there to play!
Amid the gruesome Gaza war, passions are running high throughout the Arab world. Huge Palestine solidarity protests have been occurring across the region, and this terrifies many ruling elites who fear the Palestinian issue.
They view it as dangerously destabilizing, and starting months ago, a handful of Arab states, including Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, began clamping down on pro-Palestine activism in their own countries.
Such a crackdown in these Arab countries is no surprise and should be understood on two levels. The first applies to protests in these countries at a foundational level. The second is specific to the Palestinian issue.
🤔 In 1997, the Lebanese authorities issued a decree that banned Palestinians refugees from transporting building materials into refugee camps in the southern part of the country. The Lebanese authorities claimed that the purpose of the ban was to prevent Palestinians from establishing permanent residence in Lebanon. . . . The Palestinian camps in Lebanon . . . are ghetto-like settlements, sometimes surrounded by segregation walls, barbed wire, and military surveillance.
Both Jews and Arabs lived in the land called Palestine.
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"When were Palestinians born? What was all of this area before the First World War when Britain got the Mandate over Palestine? What was Palestine, then? Palestine was then the area between the Mediterranean and the Iraqian border. Eastern West Bank was Palestine. I am a Palestinian, from 1921 to 1948, I carried a Palestinian passport. There was no such thing in this area as Jews, and Arabs, and Palestinians. There were [only] Jews and Arabs."
Golda Meir ("Iron Lady of Israeli politics" Thames TV (1970))
Same old evil lies, Jojo. We've heard it a million times and, guess what, we're not buying it. We are raging mad that our money is paying for murder, terror and starvation. See Ilan Pappe - 10 Myths About Israel.
i've seen some actually use that kind of argument, like 'there's more palestinians now than there were in 1948. how can there be a genocide?'
It's true. First, Palestinians didn't exist prior to 1948. There were called Arabs then, not a separate culture. Second, there were less than 800k Palestinians (nee Palestine Arabs) in 1948. Now there are 14 million, far more than could be supported by the land and natural resources of Gaza and the West Bank!
It's clear that Palestinians are good at one thing - making babies. I wonder how many are "creators" on JustFans? [lol]
yes, it is quite confusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtMfj36aCk . 800k? palestinians of which 750k were ethnically cleansed and displaced in the nakba indeed qualifies as genocide, i'd say. and the west bank and gaza is indeed far too little room for 14 million people. they really should be settling outside these territories, maybe to the adjacent parts of palestine where their ancestors lived.
"palestinians of which 750k were ethnically cleansed and displaced in the nakba indeed qualifies as genocide, i'd say"
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Nope, your not allowed to make your own definitions for a word. Genocide is about KILLING off most or all of a population. Displacement does not qualify.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
i'm sorry, my bad for assuming that the displacement out of their ancestral homes might have caused them serious mental harm.
The standard and usual definition of Genocide is:
"The deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular race or nation. The term is recorded from the 1940s, in relation to Nazi rule in occupied Europe."
From: genocide in The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable »
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20111018160126416#
Also from a BBC article:
How do you define genocide?
4 April 2022
Genocide is understood by most to be the gravest crime against humanity.
It is defined as a mass extermination of a particular group of people - exemplified by the efforts of the Nazis to eradicate the Jewish population in the 1940s.
But behind that simple definition is a complicated tangle of legal concepts concerning what constitutes genocide and when the term can be applied.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-11108059
Clearly, Israel is NOT attempting genocide of the people who call themselves Palestinians as, if one were to believe the numbers put forth by the Hamas Health Agency of 40k killed, that number is only approximately 1.5% or so of the total Gazan population pre-Oct.7th, which is nowhere near large enough to be considered a "mass extermination"
As for your cite of the UN definition in Wikipedia, as a bleeding heart organization always looking for contributions to help some downtrodden group or another, the UN chose to flexibly extend the meaning of genocide to the degree that the word covers all sorts of harms that do not match the standard meaning of the word in degree or in focus. In other words, the UN definition is bogus.
But if you people insist on using a word with many meanings, perhaps you could qualify it by stating that you are using the UN definition and not the OED or most others definition.
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oh wait, maybe you'll understand if someone formulates it a little more poetically:
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/this-obvious-genocide-is-not-what
Jojo your beloved state consists of Zionazis who have destroyed the infrastructure of Gaza, murdered probably over 100k of Palestinians, the original lawful owners of all the land and are now adding intentional STARVATION to their list of evil crimes. Bleeding hearts once bled for all of you, but no more for those who support this mass murder. You are terrorists with evil hearts.
For sure you will agree if we avoid calling it genocide but rather name it "promoted, voluntary emigration" ...
Prompted involuntary immigration has happened a million times in this century to millions of people - but somehow the palywood script is sold left and right globally non stop 24/7
While not one Arab country raises a finger to help 🐑
Eugenics and Ethnic Cleansing: The Values that Unite the US and Israel https://www.palestinechronicle.com/eugenics-and-ethnic-cleansing-the-values-that-unite-the-us-and-israel/
How about Britain the biggest colonizer? And the British crown that finances every conflict in the planet?
They were the biggest at one time but I think the Americans have surpassed their grandfathers in Britain as the world's biggest a**holes that finance every white settler colonial project on the planet. But "thank you for your service, Great Britain" for teaching the US how to do it so well.
Jojo you speak of these human beings as vermin. Your people are inhuman.
- Palestinians were shooting at Egyptians prior to attacking Israel this time. People in the region have long memories. When the Palestinians attempted to murder King Hussain of Jordan after he took them in. That ended much of any sympathy their Arab brothers had for them. People look at the disaster that is Lebanon, Lebanon was were the Palestinisns ran to after there unsuccessful murder attempt on the king of Jordan, and they quickly destroyed Lebanon. Beirut was Paris of the middle east and a play ground for young wealthy arabs. Now Beirut resembles a bomb crater and no one goes there to play!
wonder why Egyptians despise Palestinians ?
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Egypt-not-like-Palestinians
🤔 GIORGIO CAFIERO
MAY 20, 2024
Amid the gruesome Gaza war, passions are running high throughout the Arab world. Huge Palestine solidarity protests have been occurring across the region, and this terrifies many ruling elites who fear the Palestinian issue.
They view it as dangerously destabilizing, and starting months ago, a handful of Arab states, including Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, began clamping down on pro-Palestine activism in their own countries.
Such a crackdown in these Arab countries is no surprise and should be understood on two levels. The first applies to protests in these countries at a foundational level. The second is specific to the Palestinian issue.
Yes, the ruling elites sure have suffered enough. Someone has to speak up for them.
🤔 In 1997, the Lebanese authorities issued a decree that banned Palestinians refugees from transporting building materials into refugee camps in the southern part of the country. The Lebanese authorities claimed that the purpose of the ban was to prevent Palestinians from establishing permanent residence in Lebanon. . . . The Palestinian camps in Lebanon . . . are ghetto-like settlements, sometimes surrounded by segregation walls, barbed wire, and military surveillance.
https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/politics-current-affairs/2023/07/how-lebanon-discriminates-against-palestinians/
Please show where JoJO called Palestinians Vermin
I however can tell you for a fact that Egyptians and Lebanese call Palestinians dirty vermin
“Jojo”. Cute name. Reminds me of “Bibi”.
Hey “Jojo”, just what the fuck would one call someone who lived in PALESTINE? Chinese?
Both Jews and Arabs lived in the land called Palestine.
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"When were Palestinians born? What was all of this area before the First World War when Britain got the Mandate over Palestine? What was Palestine, then? Palestine was then the area between the Mediterranean and the Iraqian border. Eastern West Bank was Palestine. I am a Palestinian, from 1921 to 1948, I carried a Palestinian passport. There was no such thing in this area as Jews, and Arabs, and Palestinians. There were [only] Jews and Arabs."
Golda Meir ("Iron Lady of Israeli politics" Thames TV (1970))
You quoting Golda Bitch Meir says it all! 😂😂😂
Aren’t you trolling the wrong website, “Jojo”? Perhaps you’d find hasbarabullshit.com more to your liking, ya old Zionazi.
Ha ha ha.
This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in hasbarabullshit.com.
But yes, I am on the right site. I got you to read my posts, after all. Hopefully, you've learned something.
Same old evil lies, Jojo. We've heard it a million times and, guess what, we're not buying it. We are raging mad that our money is paying for murder, terror and starvation. See Ilan Pappe - 10 Myths About Israel.
Yawn. I was bored is all. 🥱
Hey Gypsy are as shallow as your name suggests?
Are you as shallow as your comment suggest? Or just a racist bigot.
Note to other Substackers: You can block people on this platform. Then their comments just go away. It's a blessing.
I’m not sure how “Gypsy” is a shallow name. Some of my ancestors were Gypsies and I have the heart and soul of a Gypsy.
Are you as opposite in character as your name implies? Fuck off, I already know the answer to that 😁
Sounds like Arabs are agreeing on one issue of Palestine - as they have always done so historically
Keep Palestinians in GAZA !! And only Gaza …
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/arab-leaders-not-helping-palestinians/
Definitely an interesting logic (or illogic) behind that statement.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/arab-leaders-not-helping-palestinians/