"Fuck these freaks. Fuck ’em. Wear their outrage as a badge of honor."
Succinctly said. Zionists deserve nothing but the most tawdry denigrating language conceivable to degrade the ethos of a foul, sociopathological anti-life philosophy, which has invaded the world like the most vicious parasite ever conceived by a natural system. Because it is entirely UN-Natural and therefore should NOT EXIST. Eliminate the parasite!
Can appreciate the sentiment, but there is something they do deserve and must have.
They must be put on trial and made to answer for their crimes, together with those in media who supported them, politicians who enabled them, stockholders who profited through them, etc.
Although I also appreciate your sentiment, I could be satisfied with first removing the parasitic infestation - crushing the the termites like the slithering disgusting crawling larvae they are. Milekowsky resembles a gigantic segmented insect larva to me.
And second, putting the entire philosophy on trial postmortem, with a circus of publicity to put any remainders on notice that they will be hunted down and tried for complicity in crimes against humanity. Perhaps not quite as satisfying, but the infestation must go.
Please tell us who exactly is going to try them? The compromised, blackmailed, threatened or bought off corporate coloniaL West? They haven't shown up in 20 months, nor going back since 1948. We're still waiting.
Fucking figure it out. If you are in the USA it is your responsibility to demand this, that, and the other thing of your politicians and not just wait for someone else to do it. If you are not in the USA, deal with your own politicians.
Feeling frustrated that AIPAC and its ilk in other nations have been successful is not an excuse for mimicking Israel.
Out of habit and wishful thinking I do still actively demand of my politicians daily. But surely you know that our government has been taken over by ruthless multinational corporations and arms manufacturers making staggering profits on endless wars. Follow the stock markets for a dose of reality. We live in a raping and pillaging oligarchy tumbling quickly toward fascism. Representatives, any more than the so called "Supreme Court" don't exactly listen, or even if some of the good ones do listen, their hands are tied (or they've been bought, threatened, blackmailed etc.) and cannot ACT on their principles. I do very much admire your ideals and share them. The reality we are facing and the unspeakable terror and grief we are witnessing our brothers and sisters in Palestine enduring is beyond horrifying and heartbreaking. I can understand the entire range of responses in these comments.
Who exactly are you proposing “crushing like termites”? We are all human even when committing crimes against humanity. Humans, whether Israeli Jews, Germans, Americans, Australians, etc. are capable of great good and great evil. It is dehumanizing other humans which is thr source of our difficulties.
Sociopaths -- a biologically inbred society perpetuating neurologically predisposing alleles with high penetrance, raised on kill-Palestinian propaganda from birth -- simulated war exercises at six years. A society of sociopaths continually breeding more of the same. Don't argue their humanity with me. Put Nature and Nurture together here, and what you have is a disastrous alien subspecies, Homo sociopaticus.
They are human. Humans are sadly capable of crimes against humanity. Think Hiroshima, Vietnam, the Nazi Holocaust, the US war on Iraq, the slaughter of native Americans, the institution of slavery. With your violent rhetoric, sounds like you are capable of the same.
Also, please note just a day or two ago thousands of Israelis, Jews and Palestinians together protested at the Gaza border demanding an end to the slaughter in Gaza. Many carried pictures of Palestinian childreb murdered by Israel. Why is no one covering this?
There is good and bad in every nationality and ethnic group.
Please note: I have lifelong Jewish friends, who themselves are anti-Zionist. I said nothing about Jews. Judaism is a religion of peace, By even mentioning it in response to me, you are demonstrating your undifferentiated cognition. Wake up. I'm telling you the population of Israel -- ISRAEL, not world Judaism or any other population of humans -- demonstrates characteristics of group sociopathy, and biological inbreeding supports that assertion (I have the creds to assert this).
As such, they are Sub-humans in my taxonomy. Welcome to your less-informed opinion.
"Zionism is antithetical to Judaism", Rabbi Dovid Weiss, NYC. And many other scholars of Judaism.
Why is no one covering this? Because it's inconvenient to differentiate anti-Zionist, pro-Palestinian Jews from the sociopaths. Ruins the antisemitism tropes.
I do not suggest killing the psycho leadership but they need to be locked up.
As a society Israel is very sick. Current polls show the overwhelming/nor even close majority of Israelis support the genocide. A large number supports actual extermination.
Yes. The protest by several hundred is great but again a tiny minority. I do not believe some day Israeli society will wake up and denounce this evil. When all but two western nations are supplying bombs and bucks it is not going to change without something catastrophic.
And that point must be kept front and center. If they attacked and killed a person, my dogs would be put down. But they would not be put on trial and prosecuted.
This is necessary. It is necessary to do justice. It is necessary to uphold the decisions of Nuremberg. It is also necessary to reaffirm our humanity.
The reply to maniacal genocide must be based NOT on who Zionism’s practitioners and supporters are; it must be based on who WE are.
Had I anything to say about it, the next war crimes trials will occur in Old City Jerusalem, and the original sentence will apply.
She and you write as if we're still operating in a democratic diplomacy -- where the opponent is playing essentially by civilized rules, and where public discourse affects outcomes. We're not, and it doesn't. This problem goes beyond Gaza and Zionism. Hybrid war has been, and is being, waged against us. We know full well that they are slowly dropping all pretense of this, and of even respecting us as humans. Keep in mind just *how* they go to where they are today -- and consider just how *far* they've been able to get with that.
Now, I really don't know what new rules we can use going forward and how we maintain our public dignity. I don't even know what can even be discussed and managed here. But I *do* know that if we ALL become imprisoned and dead in this age of unprecedented control technologies and propaganda it won't matter how properly behaved we were. Time to up our game -- and badly.
I don't recall mentioning respect for the motherfuckers. Dignity? Fuck that. Don't put words into my mouth goddammit, Just Do NOT.
I'm personally prepared to blow any away who would have the temerity to soil my doorstep. I would gladly split a crack in their skulls with my graphite tennis racquet, then as death slowly overtakes by subdural hemorrhage (a truly horrible death), extrude bodily fluids upon them. Does that give you a better idea of where I'm coming from? If not, I can get even more graphic.
Good for you; it counts. I've been a Green and voting Green for 20 years. But electoral politics seems inadequate to the task of surgical removal of Zionism from Western societies. Wish it weren't so, but that's the way it appears to me.
Vin, I think you're a coward for not accurately identifying the Jewish political leaders of the diaspora that are fundamentally the vermin behind this genocide. So forget the threats about cracking skulls with your graphite tennis raquet, and simply say the truth, quietly. I'm sure you'll find it will be much more effective than such silly threats.
By the way, do I need to explain that these Jewish leaders enable the genocide by bribing our government and brainwashing our society via their US Jewish Lobby?
You really think I do not know this, having read every book Hedges has written, including the last one? Every anti-Zionist insight ever offered at the Grayzone?
And all you're doing with proffering that list is pointing to the tentacles. Anyone following this for as long as Caitlin -- and I -- have knows that list, those other Zionist agencies beyond AIPAC and ADL; you really think you're having an original though? Fuck that. It's beyond tentacles --as I just described, it's a world-level alien digital infestation and in your dumb fucking scrambled collection of disordered neurons passing for a brain, you're still one level short of getting it with this pitiful list, essentially a bunch of orgs running cover.
Then call me a coward? Fuck you, I have no remedy for shitbags like yourself. Appear at my door, motherfucker, see what you get too.
"I don't recall mentioning respect for the motherfuckers. ... I'm personally prepared to blow any away who would have the temerity to soil my doorstep."
Oh, sorry. You ARE fully at war with them already, with a parallel lack of respect for their humanity, as they against Palestinians. My bad! Good luck with that strategy. I'll repeat: We're losing, and losing badly. I'm confident very little said here and places like this changes minds, and consequently changes what's happening out there.
We may think we're safe enough where we are here venting, and will never be shut up and be made irrelevant ... but the clock is ticking. Sadly, I am confident MLK Jr is now wrong about "the arc of justice", because we're in a brave new world few of us appear to understand.
We think revolution is still fomentable, and still executable. We're wrong on both. To paraphrase Arthur Jensen in 'Network': "[We] are old men who think in terms of [justice] and peoples. There [is no justice]. There are no peoples. ... There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of [power and intelligence]."
So, enjoy your echo chamber. But I'll try to be more careful engaging with it.
No, sir, I fully understand it. They have instantiated a global network of clever technology -- they are clever at that, Yahweh knows -- which some describe as tentacles of an octopus. But it's way beyond that. It's an alien nervous system that will only die by disconnecting ourselves from it or eliminating support for its continuance. If, as you imply, there's no power in our hands to do the latter --- by for example, political means because of our corrupt bought-off western pols --- are you, or I, or most folks, ready to do the former? Probably not. Hence the remedy is in our hands.
Disconnect!! Stop being a technoserf because the moment you are you're a Zionist serf as well. But we're all addicted, and I fear we're all too cowardly to make such a radical change. Welcome to what I see as the real infestation.
" It's an alien nervous system that will only die by disconnecting ourselves "
Decent argument for personal behavior, thank you. But good luck with that. It's simply moving far too fast for us to affect anything currently occurring (Gaza) by that method alone.
We'll be offed before long, one way or another; I tend to think it will start as the internet begins disconnecting. Brace for surprise impacts (e.g. the way COVID worked).
Sadly, I find it hard to disagree; it's likely too late for Gaza. Likewise with the MLK "Arc of justice" comment. I might think I know what justice feels like in my heart, but who am I kidding? Operationally, I don't have a clue what would bend that arc toward a genuine manifestation thereof in practice -- or what that would really entail.
Don't think i could say it any better. I wish the death of Israel, all it's
"settlers" and all its ugly f-ing people. With a world that wants peace, ain't no place for people like these. Must say the Western way of doing business around the world is failing and amen to that. Israel is their last best bet. Western countries should not exercise control over the Ottoman empire or over Iran, Iraq, etc. Just like us, they need their autonomy and deserve no less. "Terrorist" is a name we apply to people who are not. Better to apply such language to the real terrorists like the USA and the UK and the Saudis. Do we want to live? Yes, we do. Quit MFRs your damn warring and be intellignent enough to know how to get along with one another. We do that within our families. Vote in people who can do so. Ain't rocket science.
So that’s your answer to people committing genocide, killing children & starving a population in an act of collective punishment, is to call for collectively punishing the entire society of the perpetrators , killing their children and wiping them off the earth? Should we have killed all Germans? Should we kill all Americans because of the crimes of the Americsn government which has the blood of this & other genocides on their hands? You are part of the problem, not the solution.
Ann Menasche, you seem to be on the wrong side of history, just as anyone defending the actions of Nazi Germany were. Do you realize that? Why are you still apologizing for the behaviors of genocidal Israeli Zionists?
A very relevant description of a Zionist. A parasite indeed.
For interest, Vin,
A Parasite is an organism that lives on or inside another organism, known as the Host, and gets its food at the expense of the host, often causing harm in the process.
Today's example is the USA President, the Senate and House of Representatives and the Parasite, obviously the Israeli supporters in the USA. (or is it the other way around?)
Your choice
Now if want to buy an excellent book , try "The Host and the Parasite"" written by Greg Felton, a Canadian academic and activist. One of my long time textbooks.
Eventually Israel will become Wasrael because of their pariah status. I think we will see civil war in Israel by the end of the year. It’s economy is already flailing.
Ship loaders in Marseilles. France. Refusing to allow arms shipments to Israel while our Emminent President Macron decries the killing of Palestinians.
Fuck the Zionists. I see Bernie is saying once BB is gone ... Blah blah blah. I got some shit for asking his ex campaign head if Bernie was a Zionist. I heard crickets. Bernie wants the Made up Occupying State to exist. The World and Humanity needs Israel to become Palestine again. Fuck em twice and more if they mess with the Madleen. Free Gaza. Kill Aipac.
Zionists own the D and R's and too many others. Bernie is a supporter of the Zionist State. He can't even say the words Genocide/Holocaust regarding Gaza. Did his people Copyright the term ?
A friend wore a keffiyeh scarf to a gathering of the politician in 1998. The Vt. (D) Congresswoman did not sign the letter to support the "Madleen". Does she want Palestine again?! How about Welch? Vermonters for Palestine is proper. Citizens of the world for humanity want Israel to be Palestine.
Netanyahu wasn’t in charge of Israel during the Nakba. He’s just the current bad guy because the planned genocide was made before Israel was even a country.
He got into trouble with AIPAC in 2016 for being insufficiently enthusiastic about Israel and it harmed his campaign to some extent. They weaponized American Jews against him: gave marching orders for their votes.
Whether that caused him to rethink, or it was the backstage meetings with DNC leadership idk. Honestly it didn't seem to affect his campaign. It was more the coordination with the DNC against the R candidate that seemed to compromise his values.
There is a protest in Burlington today. I request the Palestinian flag be present. If it is will Bernie have them arrested?! Get in the streets if the Madleen is occupied by Terrorist's. Help Wanted in the next 24 hrs.!
Chuck, look at the cowardice demonstrated by you and your commenters. The people you are condemning are Jews, and you use a term "Zionists" to mask that fact. Why don't you speak honestly? I think it's because you think it's wrong to condemn Jews for their wrongdoing. Do you believe that Jews can only be victims and never do anything wrong? That's the lesson of the Jewish Narrative and Israeli Hasbara.
The Big Fact here is that Jewish leaders in both Israel and the USA are orchestrating this genocide. And their followers overwhelmingly support these leaders, by numbers probably exceeding 90% of all Judaism. That is enough to condemn Judaism, as a group, as a political force.
Or is it that you don't say "Jews" because of that 10% of them who don't support these leaders? If that's the case, don't you see how silly it is? Are we prevented from saying that the USA is complicit with genocide because upwards of 50% of its citizens oppose it? Of course not. Its the results that condemn the group. The result of Judaism is genocide, and thus, Judaism must be condemned. This is condemnation of Jews and it's a good, moral condemnation. In the same way that the world condemned Germany, we must condemn Judaism. Nazi Germany = Zionist Judaism.
It's only when we speak in such truthful, honest terms that Judaism will change. But first we must bring them to their knees, as was done with Germany.
I love some Jews. Cancel the made up state of Israel and the Terrorist Racist Zionists. Happy Now! What's the weather in Tel Aviv? Yemen fights for Humanity.
I think many Christian activly support the Israel state because they are following their holy book which says god-son comes back only after Israel have full control of the region. These Christians hate every who does not believe exactly as they do and want them to spend eternity being tortured.
Honestly, awful people hang with horrible people and make up stories to justify it.
It’s unbelievable that they’d believe they’re on the right side of the prophesy. If all this is indeed biblical prophesy, most westerners are definitely not going to be ‘saved’. I’d put my money on Bibi as the Antichrist in that mythology
Seriously, as a Christian, I do sometimes wonder whether the rule of Antichrist will be some sort of huge Zionist state or something. There are various things that could be seen as pointers in that direction. In addition to the humanitarian horrors, I mean the final elimination of Christians from the Holy Land, and Israel's links with Silicon Valley (AI, etc.), organ-harvesting, and so on.
However, that would all be best expressed as a novel, and I don't really go in for tying biblical prophecies to real-world events. My take is that Christians will know it when it happens.
Basically, once WWII rolled around, being seen as antisemitic made you an Ally Of Hitler, which is incredibly low status, even for low status types like evangelicals.
That's Dispensationalism, which is one group within Evangelicalism. It only started in the 1820s, in Ireland, and became influential in the USA because of the Scofield Reference Bible and Moody College. It never existed before that date, and is not part of Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or much of Protestantism (especially outside the USA). Its influence even within US Evangelicalism has decreased lately, with people becoming sick of all the "Left Behind" stuff.
Even many non-Dispensationalist Christians support Israel, which is something that I, as a Christian, feel highly embarrassed about. They seem to have various motives.
I have this image in my mind of a flag. It has light blue stripes along the top and bottom. In the middle is a circle, and in that circle is a black swastika.
No, that's a completely different message, and one I don't agree with. The star of David symbolizes Judaism and Jews, not Zionism. Zionism is the enemy. My proposal is to underline the parallels between modern Israel and Nazi Germany.
Colonial racists stand together in their delusions of persecution, distortion of white-washed history, pretense of innocence, and refusal to acknowledge the human consequence of their behavior.
Since the death obsessed lunatics amongst us don’t have the morality and rationality to behave more civil then it’s up to the sane amongst us to (sooner than later) stop the narcissistic evil doers or acknowledge we have been complicit in sinking the ship.
1. Under the rules of contemporary discourse, once you are accused of a sensitivity crime ("that's racist, sexist and homophobic!") the burden of proof falls on the accused to prove that they aren't guilty.
Needless to say, there's no real way to prove a negative, especially if the accuser is aggressive and won't listen to evidence.
2. French doesn't want her career canceled. She should look to Macklemore, who would rather be unpersoned than bend the knee.
It shatters the mind to hear zionists project everything they're doing onto others. Then to hear adults repeat it with brazen confidence.
I hear them go on about how we shouldn't change policies to cater to the feelings of a small minority. What? Huh? Isn't that exactly what we're doing? What is this reality?
Projection off the charts.
Amongst endless other things like rape, human shields, indiscriminate killings, raising the young to hate...then to claim it's the other side. Breaks the mind into a thousand pieces.
They should feeling offended. And we should always make them feels offended. Exposing their lies and war crimes is more priority than thinking about their feelings. People who really have feelings won't behave like Israel.
1) christianity is based on universalism. Without believing that every human has value christianity has nothing. 2) christianity is based off of judaism. 3) judaism has shown over the last year and a half that non-jewish life means nothing to judaism. 4) you're done.
Yeah, unfortunately there are antisemitic people here. But if you look (and analyze) deeper, who's fault is that?
The Israeli Zionists (and the Christian Zionists) and the supporters of Israel (mainly the U.S. Empire) purposely conflate Jews, Judaism, and Zionism. So if you really want to blame someone and point fingers at them, then maybe look to the people that are actually creating false narratives about Jews and Judaism? (i.e. these are the Zionists themselves that are seeking to shore up support for their vile ideology by blurring the distinctions between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism).
So-called zionists have been offending the rest of the world at least since the inception of Israhell. Offending them is an honor and could be a full time job.
"Fuck these freaks. Fuck ’em. Wear their outrage as a badge of honor."
Succinctly said. Zionists deserve nothing but the most tawdry denigrating language conceivable to degrade the ethos of a foul, sociopathological anti-life philosophy, which has invaded the world like the most vicious parasite ever conceived by a natural system. Because it is entirely UN-Natural and therefore should NOT EXIST. Eliminate the parasite!
Can appreciate the sentiment, but there is something they do deserve and must have.
They must be put on trial and made to answer for their crimes, together with those in media who supported them, politicians who enabled them, stockholders who profited through them, etc.
And they will have it.
Although I also appreciate your sentiment, I could be satisfied with first removing the parasitic infestation - crushing the the termites like the slithering disgusting crawling larvae they are. Milekowsky resembles a gigantic segmented insect larva to me.
And second, putting the entire philosophy on trial postmortem, with a circus of publicity to put any remainders on notice that they will be hunted down and tried for complicity in crimes against humanity. Perhaps not quite as satisfying, but the infestation must go.
trial is how we do the crushing.
What Israel is doing right now is rooted in an idea that they can go out and apply the boot heel to anyone they designate vermin. Don't be Israel.
It's fine however to seek the death penalty.
Please tell us who exactly is going to try them? The compromised, blackmailed, threatened or bought off corporate coloniaL West? They haven't shown up in 20 months, nor going back since 1948. We're still waiting.
Fucking figure it out. If you are in the USA it is your responsibility to demand this, that, and the other thing of your politicians and not just wait for someone else to do it. If you are not in the USA, deal with your own politicians.
Feeling frustrated that AIPAC and its ilk in other nations have been successful is not an excuse for mimicking Israel.
Out of habit and wishful thinking I do still actively demand of my politicians daily. But surely you know that our government has been taken over by ruthless multinational corporations and arms manufacturers making staggering profits on endless wars. Follow the stock markets for a dose of reality. We live in a raping and pillaging oligarchy tumbling quickly toward fascism. Representatives, any more than the so called "Supreme Court" don't exactly listen, or even if some of the good ones do listen, their hands are tied (or they've been bought, threatened, blackmailed etc.) and cannot ACT on their principles. I do very much admire your ideals and share them. The reality we are facing and the unspeakable terror and grief we are witnessing our brothers and sisters in Palestine enduring is beyond horrifying and heartbreaking. I can understand the entire range of responses in these comments.
Who exactly are you proposing “crushing like termites”? We are all human even when committing crimes against humanity. Humans, whether Israeli Jews, Germans, Americans, Australians, etc. are capable of great good and great evil. It is dehumanizing other humans which is thr source of our difficulties.
Sociopaths -- a biologically inbred society perpetuating neurologically predisposing alleles with high penetrance, raised on kill-Palestinian propaganda from birth -- simulated war exercises at six years. A society of sociopaths continually breeding more of the same. Don't argue their humanity with me. Put Nature and Nurture together here, and what you have is a disastrous alien subspecies, Homo sociopaticus.
They are human. Humans are sadly capable of crimes against humanity. Think Hiroshima, Vietnam, the Nazi Holocaust, the US war on Iraq, the slaughter of native Americans, the institution of slavery. With your violent rhetoric, sounds like you are capable of the same.
Also, please note just a day or two ago thousands of Israelis, Jews and Palestinians together protested at the Gaza border demanding an end to the slaughter in Gaza. Many carried pictures of Palestinian childreb murdered by Israel. Why is no one covering this?
There is good and bad in every nationality and ethnic group.
Please note: I have lifelong Jewish friends, who themselves are anti-Zionist. I said nothing about Jews. Judaism is a religion of peace, By even mentioning it in response to me, you are demonstrating your undifferentiated cognition. Wake up. I'm telling you the population of Israel -- ISRAEL, not world Judaism or any other population of humans -- demonstrates characteristics of group sociopathy, and biological inbreeding supports that assertion (I have the creds to assert this).
As such, they are Sub-humans in my taxonomy. Welcome to your less-informed opinion.
"Zionism is antithetical to Judaism", Rabbi Dovid Weiss, NYC. And many other scholars of Judaism.
Why is no one covering this? Because it's inconvenient to differentiate anti-Zionist, pro-Palestinian Jews from the sociopaths. Ruins the antisemitism tropes.
Israel is dying.
They can carry pictures of dead infants.......too late Israhell.
I do not believe these Zionists
I do not suggest killing the psycho leadership but they need to be locked up.
As a society Israel is very sick. Current polls show the overwhelming/nor even close majority of Israelis support the genocide. A large number supports actual extermination.
Yes. The protest by several hundred is great but again a tiny minority. I do not believe some day Israeli society will wake up and denounce this evil. When all but two western nations are supplying bombs and bucks it is not going to change without something catastrophic.
It was reported as hundreds and is very late in coming.
‘They are human.’
And that point must be kept front and center. If they attacked and killed a person, my dogs would be put down. But they would not be put on trial and prosecuted.
This is necessary. It is necessary to do justice. It is necessary to uphold the decisions of Nuremberg. It is also necessary to reaffirm our humanity.
The reply to maniacal genocide must be based NOT on who Zionism’s practitioners and supporters are; it must be based on who WE are.
Had I anything to say about it, the next war crimes trials will occur in Old City Jerusalem, and the original sentence will apply.
Thanks Vin.
Does it occur to any of you humans that you do NOT rule nature.
Fires/tornados/earthquakes now are becoming the norm.
WE people have forgotten our roots.
Get off your bloody 'phones' and look at Nature. It is dying because of your wars.
Without nature you will NOT exist.
>>"Humans, whether Israeli Jews, Germans, Americans, Australians,..."
Israeli Zionists aren't acting like humans now, are they?
In fact, Israeli Zionists are KILLING humans in real-time RIGHT NOW.
Humans in one word.
YOU Americans started this horror.
Every day that they don’t have it results in more genocide and general suffering of their victims.
The thought of the masters of the media allowing open and continuing criticism of their masters is a strange one.
This is also the only real response to sensitivity crimes. Of course, being seen as insensitive is low status and may end one's career.
She and you write as if we're still operating in a democratic diplomacy -- where the opponent is playing essentially by civilized rules, and where public discourse affects outcomes. We're not, and it doesn't. This problem goes beyond Gaza and Zionism. Hybrid war has been, and is being, waged against us. We know full well that they are slowly dropping all pretense of this, and of even respecting us as humans. Keep in mind just *how* they go to where they are today -- and consider just how *far* they've been able to get with that.
Now, I really don't know what new rules we can use going forward and how we maintain our public dignity. I don't even know what can even be discussed and managed here. But I *do* know that if we ALL become imprisoned and dead in this age of unprecedented control technologies and propaganda it won't matter how properly behaved we were. Time to up our game -- and badly.
I don't recall mentioning respect for the motherfuckers. Dignity? Fuck that. Don't put words into my mouth goddammit, Just Do NOT.
I'm personally prepared to blow any away who would have the temerity to soil my doorstep. I would gladly split a crack in their skulls with my graphite tennis racquet, then as death slowly overtakes by subdural hemorrhage (a truly horrible death), extrude bodily fluids upon them. Does that give you a better idea of where I'm coming from? If not, I can get even more graphic.
Vin, can I watch? 😁
I’ll bring the .22 with the er, considerably extended clip, just in case 😉
It'd be an incomplete experience without you, gyp dear.
It’d be my pleasure, Vin!
You’ve no idea how much 😁
Why don’t you join the IDF? Sounds like you’d fit right in.
Why don't you run for politics in some Western "democracy". Sounds like you'd find a good fit there as a mouthpiece for caution.
HaHa - well said Vin!
I’ve run as a Green. Don’t think that counts though.
Good for you; it counts. I've been a Green and voting Green for 20 years. But electoral politics seems inadequate to the task of surgical removal of Zionism from Western societies. Wish it weren't so, but that's the way it appears to me.
@Ann Sorry bitch, I’d rather be Ansarallah.
Funny how the misogyny always come out.
Huh..I must really dislike myself then Annie, considering I’ve been a female since birth 😂
Vin, I think you're a coward for not accurately identifying the Jewish political leaders of the diaspora that are fundamentally the vermin behind this genocide. So forget the threats about cracking skulls with your graphite tennis raquet, and simply say the truth, quietly. I'm sure you'll find it will be much more effective than such silly threats.
By the way, do I need to explain that these Jewish leaders enable the genocide by bribing our government and brainwashing our society via their US Jewish Lobby?
The Jewish Lobby:
https://iwasathought.substack.com/p/the-jewish-lobby
You really think I do not know this, having read every book Hedges has written, including the last one? Every anti-Zionist insight ever offered at the Grayzone?
And all you're doing with proffering that list is pointing to the tentacles. Anyone following this for as long as Caitlin -- and I -- have knows that list, those other Zionist agencies beyond AIPAC and ADL; you really think you're having an original though? Fuck that. It's beyond tentacles --as I just described, it's a world-level alien digital infestation and in your dumb fucking scrambled collection of disordered neurons passing for a brain, you're still one level short of getting it with this pitiful list, essentially a bunch of orgs running cover.
Then call me a coward? Fuck you, I have no remedy for shitbags like yourself. Appear at my door, motherfucker, see what you get too.
Put me in a locked room with him for five minutes Vin, then he’s all yours, cause he’ll be talkin like a little girl 😉
You too funny, Mama.
@Sam
Jeezum crow,
NO SHIT SHERLOCK regarding your last paragraph.
"I don't recall mentioning respect for the motherfuckers. ... I'm personally prepared to blow any away who would have the temerity to soil my doorstep."
Oh, sorry. You ARE fully at war with them already, with a parallel lack of respect for their humanity, as they against Palestinians. My bad! Good luck with that strategy. I'll repeat: We're losing, and losing badly. I'm confident very little said here and places like this changes minds, and consequently changes what's happening out there.
We may think we're safe enough where we are here venting, and will never be shut up and be made irrelevant ... but the clock is ticking. Sadly, I am confident MLK Jr is now wrong about "the arc of justice", because we're in a brave new world few of us appear to understand.
We think revolution is still fomentable, and still executable. We're wrong on both. To paraphrase Arthur Jensen in 'Network': "[We] are old men who think in terms of [justice] and peoples. There [is no justice]. There are no peoples. ... There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of [power and intelligence]."
So, enjoy your echo chamber. But I'll try to be more careful engaging with it.
No, sir, I fully understand it. They have instantiated a global network of clever technology -- they are clever at that, Yahweh knows -- which some describe as tentacles of an octopus. But it's way beyond that. It's an alien nervous system that will only die by disconnecting ourselves from it or eliminating support for its continuance. If, as you imply, there's no power in our hands to do the latter --- by for example, political means because of our corrupt bought-off western pols --- are you, or I, or most folks, ready to do the former? Probably not. Hence the remedy is in our hands.
Disconnect!! Stop being a technoserf because the moment you are you're a Zionist serf as well. But we're all addicted, and I fear we're all too cowardly to make such a radical change. Welcome to what I see as the real infestation.
" It's an alien nervous system that will only die by disconnecting ourselves "
Decent argument for personal behavior, thank you. But good luck with that. It's simply moving far too fast for us to affect anything currently occurring (Gaza) by that method alone.
We'll be offed before long, one way or another; I tend to think it will start as the internet begins disconnecting. Brace for surprise impacts (e.g. the way COVID worked).
Sadly, I find it hard to disagree; it's likely too late for Gaza. Likewise with the MLK "Arc of justice" comment. I might think I know what justice feels like in my heart, but who am I kidding? Operationally, I don't have a clue what would bend that arc toward a genuine manifestation thereof in practice -- or what that would really entail.
@ Antihip:
Just WHAT FUCKING HUMANITY are you referring to?
The humanity that believes -- rightly or wrongly -- that it's at war against evil.
Oh, I see .
The “humanity” that is powerless to stop the genocide because the actual individuals in power are whores for the Ziopaths.
Why don’t you try looking at the world as it REALLY IS, instead of through your rose-colored glasses?
Don't think i could say it any better. I wish the death of Israel, all it's
"settlers" and all its ugly f-ing people. With a world that wants peace, ain't no place for people like these. Must say the Western way of doing business around the world is failing and amen to that. Israel is their last best bet. Western countries should not exercise control over the Ottoman empire or over Iran, Iraq, etc. Just like us, they need their autonomy and deserve no less. "Terrorist" is a name we apply to people who are not. Better to apply such language to the real terrorists like the USA and the UK and the Saudis. Do we want to live? Yes, we do. Quit MFRs your damn warring and be intellignent enough to know how to get along with one another. We do that within our families. Vote in people who can do so. Ain't rocket science.
So that’s your answer to people committing genocide, killing children & starving a population in an act of collective punishment, is to call for collectively punishing the entire society of the perpetrators , killing their children and wiping them off the earth? Should we have killed all Germans? Should we kill all Americans because of the crimes of the Americsn government which has the blood of this & other genocides on their hands? You are part of the problem, not the solution.
Ann Menasche, you seem to be on the wrong side of history, just as anyone defending the actions of Nazi Germany were. Do you realize that? Why are you still apologizing for the behaviors of genocidal Israeli Zionists?
A very relevant description of a Zionist. A parasite indeed.
For interest, Vin,
A Parasite is an organism that lives on or inside another organism, known as the Host, and gets its food at the expense of the host, often causing harm in the process.
Today's example is the USA President, the Senate and House of Representatives and the Parasite, obviously the Israeli supporters in the USA. (or is it the other way around?)
Your choice
Now if want to buy an excellent book , try "The Host and the Parasite"" written by Greg Felton, a Canadian academic and activist. One of my long time textbooks.
You are fearless and correct, as always. Your humanity and efforts on its behalf are greatly appreciated.
I consider it an honor to ridicule and expose zionist's as the absolute evil filth that they are.
They are pissrael. They always pissed & offended when someone try to force them to think😅
Eventually Israel will become Wasrael because of their pariah status. I think we will see civil war in Israel by the end of the year. It’s economy is already flailing.
Ship loaders in Marseilles. France. Refusing to allow arms shipments to Israel while our Emminent President Macron decries the killing of Palestinians.
Blatant hypocrisy.
Good on them, Jenny! 💪💪💪
Yes. Things are breaking up here in Europe which is great.
So I hear, Jenny. However as far as the governments go, it’s not altruism, it’s fear of prosecution for contributing to genocide.
Of course.
It's really more to do with Ukraine and this desire to fight a war against Russia. Spain is ready to leave the EU which to my mind MUST go down.
Bloated elites keep the EU functioning and they are not voted in by the Public!!!
Exactly Jenny.
Not-so-Great Britain and Germany now believe they can take on the Russians! 😂
You might not have heard what is happening in the UK?
Starmer is accused of treason.
More to come from Europe.
Fuck the Zionists. I see Bernie is saying once BB is gone ... Blah blah blah. I got some shit for asking his ex campaign head if Bernie was a Zionist. I heard crickets. Bernie wants the Made up Occupying State to exist. The World and Humanity needs Israel to become Palestine again. Fuck em twice and more if they mess with the Madleen. Free Gaza. Kill Aipac.
Lackluster. Let's not pretend that Team D is any better, just more glib.
Zionists own the D and R's and too many others. Bernie is a supporter of the Zionist State. He can't even say the words Genocide/Holocaust regarding Gaza. Did his people Copyright the term ?
Sanders is a eunuch.
A friend wore a keffiyeh scarf to a gathering of the politician in 1998. The Vt. (D) Congresswoman did not sign the letter to support the "Madleen". Does she want Palestine again?! How about Welch? Vermonters for Palestine is proper. Citizens of the world for humanity want Israel to be Palestine.
Netanyahu wasn’t in charge of Israel during the Nakba. He’s just the current bad guy because the planned genocide was made before Israel was even a country.
He got into trouble with AIPAC in 2016 for being insufficiently enthusiastic about Israel and it harmed his campaign to some extent. They weaponized American Jews against him: gave marching orders for their votes.
Whether that caused him to rethink, or it was the backstage meetings with DNC leadership idk. Honestly it didn't seem to affect his campaign. It was more the coordination with the DNC against the R candidate that seemed to compromise his values.
I could be wrong though.
There is a protest in Burlington today. I request the Palestinian flag be present. If it is will Bernie have them arrested?! Get in the streets if the Madleen is occupied by Terrorist's. Help Wanted in the next 24 hrs.!
Chuck, look at the cowardice demonstrated by you and your commenters. The people you are condemning are Jews, and you use a term "Zionists" to mask that fact. Why don't you speak honestly? I think it's because you think it's wrong to condemn Jews for their wrongdoing. Do you believe that Jews can only be victims and never do anything wrong? That's the lesson of the Jewish Narrative and Israeli Hasbara.
The Big Fact here is that Jewish leaders in both Israel and the USA are orchestrating this genocide. And their followers overwhelmingly support these leaders, by numbers probably exceeding 90% of all Judaism. That is enough to condemn Judaism, as a group, as a political force.
Or is it that you don't say "Jews" because of that 10% of them who don't support these leaders? If that's the case, don't you see how silly it is? Are we prevented from saying that the USA is complicit with genocide because upwards of 50% of its citizens oppose it? Of course not. Its the results that condemn the group. The result of Judaism is genocide, and thus, Judaism must be condemned. This is condemnation of Jews and it's a good, moral condemnation. In the same way that the world condemned Germany, we must condemn Judaism. Nazi Germany = Zionist Judaism.
It's only when we speak in such truthful, honest terms that Judaism will change. But first we must bring them to their knees, as was done with Germany.
I love some Jews. Cancel the made up state of Israel and the Terrorist Racist Zionists. Happy Now! What's the weather in Tel Aviv? Yemen fights for Humanity.
I think many Christian activly support the Israel state because they are following their holy book which says god-son comes back only after Israel have full control of the region. These Christians hate every who does not believe exactly as they do and want them to spend eternity being tortured.
Honestly, awful people hang with horrible people and make up stories to justify it.
I've heard absolute glee from these types. "Oh it's happening - just like the bible!".
Absolutely crazy people. Ghouls. Most of my family.
It’s unbelievable that they’d believe they’re on the right side of the prophesy. If all this is indeed biblical prophesy, most westerners are definitely not going to be ‘saved’. I’d put my money on Bibi as the Antichrist in that mythology
Seriously, as a Christian, I do sometimes wonder whether the rule of Antichrist will be some sort of huge Zionist state or something. There are various things that could be seen as pointers in that direction. In addition to the humanitarian horrors, I mean the final elimination of Christians from the Holy Land, and Israel's links with Silicon Valley (AI, etc.), organ-harvesting, and so on.
However, that would all be best expressed as a novel, and I don't really go in for tying biblical prophecies to real-world events. My take is that Christians will know it when it happens.
I believe more in self fulfilling prophecy and that’s what terrifies me, the lunatics are running the asylum
They cannot hold their positions. They cannot describe their view. Blind faith post modernism view of reality?
Poor you Joshua. May they all get some morality.
Not poor me but it lends to the lunacy
Basically, once WWII rolled around, being seen as antisemitic made you an Ally Of Hitler, which is incredibly low status, even for low status types like evangelicals.
I think just Evangelical Christians.
That's Dispensationalism, which is one group within Evangelicalism. It only started in the 1820s, in Ireland, and became influential in the USA because of the Scofield Reference Bible and Moody College. It never existed before that date, and is not part of Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or much of Protestantism (especially outside the USA). Its influence even within US Evangelicalism has decreased lately, with people becoming sick of all the "Left Behind" stuff.
Even many non-Dispensationalist Christians support Israel, which is something that I, as a Christian, feel highly embarrassed about. They seem to have various motives.
John Nelson Darby is the person who came up with "the Rapture" and other such nonsense. Nothing biblical about it at all.
If someone is waving the "Israeli Flag"
during a protest.
Then it is NOT the "Israeli Flag"
it is the GENOCIDE FLAG!
I have this image in my mind of a flag. It has light blue stripes along the top and bottom. In the middle is a circle, and in that circle is a black swastika.
Before German Nazis swastika was fine. Now Jewish Nazis are pushing the star of david down the same road.
good point!
Or Mary…
We could keep that fucking “Star of David” with a red circle around it and a slash through it.
No, that's a completely different message, and one I don't agree with. The star of David symbolizes Judaism and Jews, not Zionism. Zionism is the enemy. My proposal is to underline the parallels between modern Israel and Nazi Germany.
It also symbolizes IsraHell.
Colonial racists stand together in their delusions of persecution, distortion of white-washed history, pretense of innocence, and refusal to acknowledge the human consequence of their behavior.
Since the death obsessed lunatics amongst us don’t have the morality and rationality to behave more civil then it’s up to the sane amongst us to (sooner than later) stop the narcissistic evil doers or acknowledge we have been complicit in sinking the ship.
Exactly, Caitlin. And we can't let the Christian Zionists, who greatly outnumber the Jewish Zionists, off the hook either.
Genocide is just plain wrong no matter who supports it.
Anid if we don't know this, we don't have a moral compass.
1. Under the rules of contemporary discourse, once you are accused of a sensitivity crime ("that's racist, sexist and homophobic!") the burden of proof falls on the accused to prove that they aren't guilty.
Needless to say, there's no real way to prove a negative, especially if the accuser is aggressive and won't listen to evidence.
2. French doesn't want her career canceled. She should look to Macklemore, who would rather be unpersoned than bend the knee.
It shatters the mind to hear zionists project everything they're doing onto others. Then to hear adults repeat it with brazen confidence.
I hear them go on about how we shouldn't change policies to cater to the feelings of a small minority. What? Huh? Isn't that exactly what we're doing? What is this reality?
Projection off the charts.
Amongst endless other things like rape, human shields, indiscriminate killings, raising the young to hate...then to claim it's the other side. Breaks the mind into a thousand pieces.
They should feeling offended. And we should always make them feels offended. Exposing their lies and war crimes is more priority than thinking about their feelings. People who really have feelings won't behave like Israel.
1) christianity is based on universalism. Without believing that every human has value christianity has nothing. 2) christianity is based off of judaism. 3) judaism has shown over the last year and a half that non-jewish life means nothing to judaism. 4) you're done.
Now this is antisemitic. You are attacking all Jews and the Jewish religion as evil, not simply a political ideology (Zionism).
Yeah, unfortunately there are antisemitic people here. But if you look (and analyze) deeper, who's fault is that?
The Israeli Zionists (and the Christian Zionists) and the supporters of Israel (mainly the U.S. Empire) purposely conflate Jews, Judaism, and Zionism. So if you really want to blame someone and point fingers at them, then maybe look to the people that are actually creating false narratives about Jews and Judaism? (i.e. these are the Zionists themselves that are seeking to shore up support for their vile ideology by blurring the distinctions between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism).
So-called zionists have been offending the rest of the world at least since the inception of Israhell. Offending them is an honor and could be a full time job.
Greeks arrested for shouting “Free Palestine” to Israeli tourists
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2025/06/03/grreks-arrestedfree-palestine-israeli-tourists/
The latter reacted strongly and in the end replied “we have a lot of money”, meaning that this gives them the right to do whatever they want.
It all happened last Thursday morning, May 27, on the beach of Vouliagmeni in south-east Attica.
The tourists from Israel called the police who arrested one of the accused, who was shouting slogans against the genocide taking place in Palestine.
Genuine Jewish anti-zionists do not tone-police the Palestine movement - they police zionist weaponization of anti-semitism.