What I find very unfunny is that rudiments of security were not adhered to by the fricken Secret Service. Why are they allowing a nearby building’s rooftop to be unsecured? There’s no way that rifleman even gets on a nearby rooftop let alone have time to set up fire without dereliction of duty or an outright setup.
The shooting was fake. Trump didn't get hit. The fireman didn't die. Everybody in the stands behind Trump were the worst crisis actors of all time. Trump's ear healed up perfectly within the week. There's a reason Trump drew people's attention away right before the shot. Why would they carry the supposedly dead fireman away by the legs and arms? Why would they wash down the roof without investigating the crime scene? Why is there no footage of the shooting from behind the podium? Why isn't Trump showing everyone photos of his scared ear? Why are most people believing in something so obviously fake?
Hey, on September 11, 2001, I had a story I'd been working on a long time on air pollution trading published on page one of the Wall Street Journal. I got the money quotes. It made Christie Whitman look bad.
Under your "logic" and reasoning, Whitman and polluters conspired to drive that story off page 1! hahaahahaaa!
the dnc will exploit what happened to distract from the dementia-issue (maybe milk this even a little more so it stays away the rest of the campaign) or else they wouldn't be 'good' political campaigners. meanwhile the complicity in the genocide (not slowed down one bit) gets even further sucked toward the memory-hole.
Can the dementia-issue ever be distracted from? I mean - every time Biden speaks, his every public appearance - hemorrhages "mental-health" issues. I don't think there is any way for Biden (or his supporters) to escape that... but who knows for sure?
hm, they might invoke 'security reasons' now to keep biden from actual public appearances without teleprompters and any 'unscripted' speech, add some powerful medication, ... plus taking away the spotlight, quelling the recalcitrant donors in the wings, ... i think it will help that cause anyway.
Not funny and bad form to joke about assassinations.
Curious, The NY Times is running a narrated video that shows, apparently in real time, that Secret Service snipers were aimed at the assassin BEFORE shots were fired. The narrator even says this! If true, that will spawn some dangerous shit.
BTW, I just got terminated by X for a tweet where I suggested that an urban cyclist to kill himself in some other way, because if he continued to ride like the video he posted he was dead man walking, for sure.
According to X censors, that was "violent speech". But the cyclists' video, which encouraged extremely dangerous riding that is certain to get people killed if emulated, was A OK. That Just shows how stupid AI algorithms are.
Regards "Curious, The NY Times is running a narrated video that shows, apparently in real time, that Secret Service snipers were aimed at the assassin BEFORE shots were fired. The narrator even says this! If true, that will spawn some dangerous shit."
Check this MSM UK story out comprising the text "At almost the exact split second Trump grabs his ear, after being hit by a bullet, one of the agent's powerful guns is seen recoiling. "....
OH WAIT, in the UK now, we have the additional news of "Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks 'had explosive devices' in his car parked near the Pennsylvania rally"....
NYT reported that the assassin fired 8 shots. I saw the UK story. I am no gun expert, but the alleged instantaneous "recoil" looks more like the sniper rising up off his scope and aim to get a visual. Those guys don't miss from 150 yards, so how could the assassin get time to fire 7 more shots? Or how could he have fired 8 shots before the sniper(s) took him out?
I saw an FBI spokesperson making EXACTLY the same claim in a network TV clip. SO, this is becoming the official excuse.
The NYT also reported that their expert concluded that the snipers fired AFTER the assassin did. Kind of like having the Zapruder video with people saying they saw men with guns firing from the grassy knoll published in real time.
The presence of the flag in the background of the iconic photo is kind of like investigators finding perfectly intact passports of the 9/11 terrorists amidst the rubble. It's the tell.
It certainly was not a .55 grain .223 bullet traveling at 3,240 feet per second. That would have taken his ear off.
There was no cut by a bullet. There was no blood splatter on his hair or collar and no blood on his right and. It was either a fake (slow mo video shoes his right hand going to his ear BEFORE he flinched from gunshots) or it was from glass hards from the teleprompter.
So many things way off they support multiple conflicting theories - a Roshomon!
The narrative now is it was "major security failure". As in 9/11 - "yeah, we knew about plans to fly planes into tall buildings and we tracked the guys training. Just failed, you know."
It's Not that I don't care but it was very predictable and will be just another story before long. Meanwhile, Israel has been bombing the fuck out of tent villages and schools in Gaza, escaping the glare of publicity. Refocus on the genocide, it's the real crime and tragedy of our times (among many others).
Good/decent people don't become rulers/heads-of-state (I really hope to be proven wrong). Power corrupts AND corruptible people are more attracted to power. (Why do we get the wrong leaders? Brian Klaas at Science and Cocktails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Oab42VZRE)
the main thing to remember is, that whoever occupies the WH, has to dance along the tunes of the puppet masters. Be it an empty headed or one with one ear (come to think of Van Gogh LOL) does not matter. For almost 100 years now the president has been just a facade. The one who did not want to be that, did not live.
I am not one given to spiritual experiences living in this grimy world for so long, but I had a visit from George Orwell as I was sitting on my balcony early this am. He has always helped to see things no one wants to pay attention to.
European imperialism justified itself in terms of a ‘science’ of racial hierarchy with white people at the top. Orwell experienced racial injustice in the East and sought to emancipate himself from racial thinking: he concluded there was no such thing as race, which was ‘the invention of conquering nations’. Nonetheless, while some of his compatriots shrank from Asians as ‘beastly’, he writes with strange enthusiasm about the beauty of Burmese men. The dark suffering face became his recurring metonym for injustice. After Burma he says he was haunted by the ‘innumerable remembered faces’ of Burmese imprisoned, beaten, and condemned: in Nineteen Eighty-Four, the future is a boot stamping on a human face. In wartime, African Americans and Jews joined his list of victims of racial injustice, and he struggled to understand anti-Semitism: ‘the Jew is evidently a scapegoat, though for what he is a scapegoat we do not yet know’.
I just watched this video and, although I was never a sniper like this young man is, I do have some similar training on weapons from my military career. He lays it all out very distinctly, much as I had already thought about based on other reports I had read so far.
I had written an Op Ed earlier today for my own channel to be livestreamed later that will now be revised to reflect what this young man detailed in this interview.
I will be paying close attention to the media from all over the world in the coming days to see how all of this gets spun out.
Will this incident push the MAGA's into the white house and U.S. congress? That may be the existential question on everyone's lips around the world right now and what will that man for the future of the United States and the world at large.
Trump's foreign policy very similar to Biden's, so i don't see it as an existential question. the rest of the world will be dealing with a psychopathic warmonger in any case.
Exactly. "Triden" and "Bump" are one and the same on policy. The only way to end the violence in both the US and around the world is to elect a pro-peace/anti-genocide president. Jill Stein is that president. https://jillstein2024.com
I don't know, but it's as if the propagandists have riled up people to the point that they believe Trump is the epitome of all evil and so it's permissible to take shots at him in a crowd. They've created a full-blown mental illness with TDS. And they're okay with that. Must be part of their plan to manipulate and control us?
So it's not because they're afraid for him to destroy their nirvana, albeit clumsily and unwittingly?
He said "we're in Syria for oil" - bluntly revealing what the US is about. He's after NATO - they're all horrified if he's president again. He's definitely after fixing Ukraine war, and even if he does nothing for Gaza, stopping Ukraine bloodshed is not a small thing, don't you think? And that intent makes the world war cabal's blood boil. It's not a coincidence Orban has been traveling back and forth meeting with Trump, and not with anyone currently in power. Heck, even Maduro sent his best wishes to Trump.
We could come up with some more. Are these not legitimate reasons for them to try take him out? Are they not what current global cabal is fearful of?
As far as manipulation and controlling - they've been doing it pretty well with other means. Trump is convenient to have, but they'd have other tools in his absence. They do try to get rid of him after all.
So why are they after Trump this badly? Wouldn't you agree that if Biden's brains were blown out then nothing would happen, as his are out of commission anyway? But apparently Trump's matter? Why?
i tried to reply for some reason substack is requiring me to sign in twice--anyway maybe just to destablize shit to the point of declaring martial law. I'm not saying it makes sense, but our "best and brightest" are lost in their own bubble--i dont know what kind of conversations they are having about how to deal with the rest of us, but i take it as a given they don't care what happens to us.
OK, destabilization. Why is it that it's dealing with Trump exclusively that would achieve that? Why wouldn't they try to eliminate Biden or anybody else sufficiently high up? Or something else entirely if they're after martial law?
That is, why is it exclusively Trump via prosecution/elimination of whom the required destabilization can be achieved?
im not saying they would be dealing with Trump exclusively. they would eliminate Biden or anyone higher up. Since Trump survived, i'm saying they likely would eliminate Biden exclusively, or whoever else gets in their way. Or both of them. I'm saying the goal is destabilization; that doesn't require the elimination of both--Trump is going to win in all probability now, and I would not be surprised to see Biden have an unfortunate stage accident or choke on his meds. Ari Emanuel the well known Jewish billionaire wants to dump Biden, for example. I expect he is representative of the megarich Jewish donor class, and maybe the megarich donor class in general. Biden and Trump are just their tools, and they are replaceable tools.
Nothing but cover. Claims gun was a .22 (didn't mention AR-15). Was not critical of Secret Service failures ( a flat roof on a building 125 yards from the stage, just one of a small groups of buildings, was not defended???) The guy claimed shooter was "ANTIFA" an "old fat guy" with no training (assassin was 20 years old and slim).
Guy said shot came from the rear, while it came from the side. NY Times video shows Secret Service snipers on rooftop aiming at assassin as Trump is speaking, BEFORE shots are fired. Look
An AR15 shoots .22 bullets. Although only 150 yards, a modest cough is enough to blow .22s off track. A person who’d done his homework would have used a Western 68 or at least a creedmoor
The timing will get very close investigation. I understand that snipers are integrated with ground crews. One had a headset on. A guy in a BBC interview said he and several others saw the assassin on the roof and were trying to warn cops for several minutes (3 or 4 I think he said). How is that possible?
I'm relying on NY Times reporting, who relied on an academic acoustics expert.. They said assassin fired 8 shots: a group of 3 followed by a burst of 5. I have no idea who was shooting. But surely the experts will know.
Expert Secret Service marksmen would not take 5 shots to kill a target just 150 yards away.
They'd more or less land in the same area then. Well, they say one person dead and two critically injured. Maybe by more bullet than one each. Let's see what they say (hopefully) once they investigate.
So what we have is a 20 year old, barely out of high school, used an AR-15 type rifle (outlawed in many other countries including Australia), who remarkably got close enough to make the shot, and was taken out seconds afterward by Secret Service marksmen.
Two interesting points the expert interviewed here makes:
1) Any trained sniper could have made this shot successfully. i.e. He called it a "chip" shot. Which indicates this 20 year old had probably never trained much at all. And from other reports the shooter had not been "rushed", he had been aiming for a minute or two
2) The Sniper Expert also said he wasn't too surprised the shooter was able to get so close. I think that was the biggest takeaway for me from the interview, that it wasn't too surprising you had someone able to crawl on a roof 150 meters away - at least to the Expert interviewer here. To me, that's one of the biggest surprises of what happened - how could the secret service miss someone climbing on a nearby roof??
My own afterthoughts here: at 20 years old, it's easy to lose yourself in ideology and not think very rationally, even if you don't have a history of any type of mental problems. This guy given initial reports, looked like a fairly ordinary 20 year old, no apparent history of psychiatric problems (as of today) - more will obviously be reported in the future.
And it's an AR-15 yet again. I mean, can we get a little stricter control over these weapons? Who the fuck needs an AR-15, other than mass shooters? And I believe in the right to own a firearm.
It will be interesting what is uncovered on this guy. If there are any connections at all to the deep state - any kind of liaisons discovered in his past, look out. But, my current guess is it's just another AR-15 nutjob shooter. But it's only been a day so we'll see. There will be plenty of conspiracy theories. The election though, pretty much over as soon as Trump did that fist pump to the rally and to the rest of us who watched afterwards. Compare that to Genocide Joe Biden's dementia patient routines - and well, yeah.
Based on his age I'd say he's just totally filled with TDS and it rot his brain. Everybody around him knew it and he would be encouraged by the interested parties to make the next step, without anyone being directly involved. Just steer the fool and allow him to make the move.
Somewhat similar to the guy who shot Fico of Slovakia. Only that one was much older. Just proving the age does not equal wisdom.
jamenta, A fist pump and a face contorted with hatred, ordering people to fight their own - is that what it takes for the American people to vote for a president?!
I do not like Trump. I think he is a scamster and a con artist and a warmonger and a phony populist, among other things. But he was very clever with the fist pump, right after being shot at - because many people will see that as a show of strength, and it will work very well against a POTUS who refuses to resign because of his obvious dementia. Juxtapose someone who is clearly being selfish for his own aggrandizement, to a person who appears to have heroically survived an assassination attempt. It's all about the optics and the perception. And IMO, it's all over for Genocide Joe. Unless they find some other way to make Trump disappear, it's all she wrote.
The source in that video is a former sniper and christian nationalist, as is the host. He provided sniper support consulting. He's not about to criticize his colleagues.
They have agenda's - and that is OBVIOUS. Not a reliable source.
Dude - just go away. The guy being a "christian nationalist" has no bearing on his expertise as a sniper. The interview was done 11 hours ago. Still going to vote for RFK Jr. - Mr. Fish Face?
No bearing? He called the assassin "ANTIFA". You think that has anything to do with his expertise as a sniper? The host spoke of Jesus, both had books on Jesus in the background, and called the assassin an "evil doer".
As a sniper, he killed many people in foreign lands. What would Jesus do?
First esoteric point on the flag as wind indicator is absurd. Shot was fired from less than 150 yards, greatly reducing role of wind. It was NOT 300 yards and Trump was not a moving target. I argue flag could have been placed there for photo op.
The shooter was a 20 year old with no training and the photos I saw show no scope on the rifle.
The videos I've seen of the people observing assassin on the roof were when he was DEAD after the fact. The witness testimony (BBC interview) is not supported by video.
Much too much of the other crap is paranoid conspiracy theory that ignores the basic facts, which are a Roshomon: they support both theories that it was an indide job and that it was staged by Trump.
I like his analysis of security lapses and failures, but I wouldn't conjecture conspiracy theories (or false flag events) based on that analysis (like he alludes to in his video).
People often over-estimate the competence level of experts, academics, intellectuals, organizations, corporations, people in power, oligarchs, etc.. People often seem to believe that "if so-and-so person/organization is one of the best in the world" then they must be competent 'always'. The reality is that failures happen all the time. Mistakes happen all the time (sometimes even by the most qualified and experienced people). Add in the element of randomness and unpredictability - and you have multiple points of possible failure in any scenario/event (even high profile ones).
Unfortunately, most people are unable to come to grips with "normal human folly and stupidity", "inadequate preparedness", and "hubris that leads to complacency, shortsightedness, negligence, and errors in judgement" (especially for high profile/intensity events) - and often go in the direction of conspiracy theories to try to resolve the cognitive dissonance between what they observe/experience and their interpretation /conception of how the world works (or should).
In a sense, many conspiracy theories are an attempt to explain the reality in a way so as to "fit-in" with an already believed/ingrained world-view and system - i.e. making unexplainable observations fit/conform to existing belief systems. If narratives have to change for that to happen, then so be it - whatever resolves the discomfort. (Revisionist histories are a good example of changing narratives to fit dominant/socially-acceptable belief systems).
I used to think that. Now that I understand what my government is capable of, I firmly believe we need a 4th branch of government called ‘we the fucking people have guns too’. Consider the constant repetition of ‘the shooter used an AR-15 style rifle’ by the paid propagandists is to make it seem like it’s an epidemic that must be cured by banning all guns (that could enable a resistance). I will sit here in my bomb bunker clutching a bible and gun praying that’s never needed. 😉
I am not against gun ownership. But I am for more control over who is qualified for certain type of guns, and there needs to be more responsibility imposed on ownership - for a greater level of public safety - for us all.
Yes crazy people should not have access to guns (of course they’ll call anyone suspicious of government agencies too crazy to own a gun). Tough nut to crack
Freedom - doesn't mean you're free to do whatever the fuck you want in a civil society. Everybody gets to enjoy freedom, but only because we all agree upon certain rules to protect our freedoms. And some of these rules ought to be in regard to the billionaire sociopaths currently running the US into the ground, making money anyway they can - for themselves.
Freedom isn't something where you can be a selfish asshole and drive down a residential street at 100 mph. Freedom means we all respect the freedom of other people we live with who are our neighbors, and agree upon the value of each person's life - and don't exploit them to the hilt - just because you can.
The purpose of Facebook is mass manipulation and diversion, not information. The medium itself is designed to induce brain death. There is no point in thinking you can awaken people there.
And not least the top leadership of Meta/Facebook includes dedicated Zionists, based on their own history of statements and donations. So no sugar they are shutting down all criticism of Zionism. Don’t patronise their business. Especially as you are their product in the first place.
Admired Noam for decades Until he clearly stated the unvaxed be isolated from society - www.independent.co. 10/26/21 Oliver Browning I was confused as a senior who refused the jabs. Those times sure were frightfully filled wth mass media disinformation Manufacturing Consent Edward S Herman + Noam Chomsky Was that book published in 1988?
Definitely a hoax. Just because they shot a kid doesn't mean he did it. Nothing is real today, but babies dying in Gaza with US weapons. Our government gave Wasrael our money to kill children. Abstain 2024!
After all the uproar about “propaganda” on this site, what makes anybody think the information “will come in”? Cui bono? T-rump does. The votes and money and sympathy and anger this event will garner him is fabulous!!!! The hatred of China will go sky high, very good for his next iteration as buffoon in chief. His ranting about our open borders allowing the Chinese to “stream” into the country will be vindicated. Tariffs and military deployments to our borders will be top priority. Hell, this so-called attempt is a bonanza for the Neo-cons. 911 and douche Chaney all over again.
FWIW: there -IS- a problem on the US Southern Border.
What the cause is; why it is allowed; and what to do about it needs to be examined.
Trump didn't do anything about it while he was President. While Obama was President, cages were prepositioned before the on-rush of refugees.
A "real cynic" (such as myself) might compare this flood of refugees to what is happening in Gaza. Need I remind us all of Madeline Albright's declaration that the murder of 500,000 Iraqi Children was "worth it"?
It isn't helpful to call Trump a buffoon since that merely creates friction with those you might otherwise be able to talk with. An worse, it is a tacit indicator that you support Biden -- even if you don't.
May I recommend a heavy dose of Judge Nap's YouTube channel? His guests will provide valuable insights concerning the neocon efforts to maintain American Hegemony and how every scheme they try just makes things worse -- unless you are a BlackRock shareholder.
We have to look beyond Trump and Biden to understand the war fever that grips this nation.
The sounds of a liberal chirping in the weeds—“talk nice or other people will be upset!” I watch Judge Nap everyday. Your conclusions about who and what I must think show you to be as big a buffoon as T-rump.
You're in fine form today, Jeapo. What I find invaluable in this forum - every post will have someone in the comment section to step up and clown, no matter the topic. Today's your turn 😉🤣🤡
They're all saying that because they KNOW that if it is an AR-15 that will prompt a ban.
An AR-15 fires a .223 caliber bullet, essentially a .22 - but the velocity is very different and so is the effective power when a high speed bullet hits human flesh. It tumbles and destroys organs and bones. A .22 can't come close to that.
There are many numbers of johns waving wads of cash at the whores in power. They’re called oligarchs and they’re all fighting each other for sole ownership of the whores. AIPAC, Zionists, WEF-ies, arms manufacturers, Epstein-ers, ALEC, mafia bosses, CIA—I’m sure you know the usual suspects.
The title alone has me 🤣🤣🤣 Ok, back to reading…
Not funny.
It’s very funny 🤣
Life is stranger than fiction, seriously. I laugh at the absolute insanity of it all.
Sometimes all you can do is laugh.
What I find very unfunny is that rudiments of security were not adhered to by the fricken Secret Service. Why are they allowing a nearby building’s rooftop to be unsecured? There’s no way that rifleman even gets on a nearby rooftop let alone have time to set up fire without dereliction of duty or an outright setup.
The shooting was fake. Trump didn't get hit. The fireman didn't die. Everybody in the stands behind Trump were the worst crisis actors of all time. Trump's ear healed up perfectly within the week. There's a reason Trump drew people's attention away right before the shot. Why would they carry the supposedly dead fireman away by the legs and arms? Why would they wash down the roof without investigating the crime scene? Why is there no footage of the shooting from behind the podium? Why isn't Trump showing everyone photos of his scared ear? Why are most people believing in something so obviously fake?
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Shitlibs abound in this forum and they're usually TDSers. See that comment stay at the top for likes.
And just like that (almost) everyone stopped talking about Biden's senile dementia.
Anyway, the only thing that surprises me here is that it wasn't tried long ago.
Don't worry. Biden's senile dementia won't go away. In fact, it will get worse!
Fun times.
Maybe it was, but we didn't see...
British citizen Michael Sandford tried to kill Trump in 2016.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Donald_Trump_Las_Vegas_rally_incident
Absurd reasoning.
Hey, on September 11, 2001, I had a story I'd been working on a long time on air pollution trading published on page one of the Wall Street Journal. I got the money quotes. It made Christie Whitman look bad.
Under your "logic" and reasoning, Whitman and polluters conspired to drive that story off page 1! hahaahahaaa!
I said nothing about a conspiracy.
No, of course you didn't say anything specific about a conspiracy.
In typical (feline) keyboard cowardice, you vaguely implied one.
the dnc will exploit what happened to distract from the dementia-issue (maybe milk this even a little more so it stays away the rest of the campaign) or else they wouldn't be 'good' political campaigners. meanwhile the complicity in the genocide (not slowed down one bit) gets even further sucked toward the memory-hole.
Can the dementia-issue ever be distracted from? I mean - every time Biden speaks, his every public appearance - hemorrhages "mental-health" issues. I don't think there is any way for Biden (or his supporters) to escape that... but who knows for sure?
hm, they might invoke 'security reasons' now to keep biden from actual public appearances without teleprompters and any 'unscripted' speech, add some powerful medication, ... plus taking away the spotlight, quelling the recalcitrant donors in the wings, ... i think it will help that cause anyway.
Trump tee shirts on sale already with an "iconic" (prepared) photo? And you ignore that to criticize Democrats? Wow.
Get one! Wear one! So you can reveal the conspiracy once the conversation starts.
Get one for "Bob - I'm full" as well. He's suffering from the loss to Spain.
No, you guessed wrong.
Yes, Biden is indeed thankful that the news is no longer about Biden's missing brain.
Not funny and bad form to joke about assassinations.
Curious, The NY Times is running a narrated video that shows, apparently in real time, that Secret Service snipers were aimed at the assassin BEFORE shots were fired. The narrator even says this! If true, that will spawn some dangerous shit.
BTW, I just got terminated by X for a tweet where I suggested that an urban cyclist to kill himself in some other way, because if he continued to ride like the video he posted he was dead man walking, for sure.
According to X censors, that was "violent speech". But the cyclists' video, which encouraged extremely dangerous riding that is certain to get people killed if emulated, was A OK. That Just shows how stupid AI algorithms are.
Some, myself included, find the well-known quip “Otherwise, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?” funny.
Love that line, my mother used to st that. It probably helps how long ago it happened though.
I still get away with saying, "may his days be few" like that gop senator from Georgia said of Obama.
I would expect nothing less here.
Regards "Curious, The NY Times is running a narrated video that shows, apparently in real time, that Secret Service snipers were aimed at the assassin BEFORE shots were fired. The narrator even says this! If true, that will spawn some dangerous shit."
Check this MSM UK story out comprising the text "At almost the exact split second Trump grabs his ear, after being hit by a bullet, one of the agent's powerful guns is seen recoiling. "....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13632249/Moment-Secret-Service-snipers-shoot-gunmen-shot-Donald-Trump.html
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OH WAIT, in the UK now, we have the additional news of "Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks 'had explosive devices' in his car parked near the Pennsylvania rally"....
WALOB
NYT reported that the assassin fired 8 shots. I saw the UK story. I am no gun expert, but the alleged instantaneous "recoil" looks more like the sniper rising up off his scope and aim to get a visual. Those guys don't miss from 150 yards, so how could the assassin get time to fire 7 more shots? Or how could he have fired 8 shots before the sniper(s) took him out?
I saw an FBI spokesperson making EXACTLY the same claim in a network TV clip. SO, this is becoming the official excuse.
The NYT also reported that their expert concluded that the snipers fired AFTER the assassin did. Kind of like having the Zapruder video with people saying they saw men with guns firing from the grassy knoll published in real time.
I am in the UK and I have fired 3 different guns in my life:
1. Air Rifle - we had as kids
2. Winchester - 2.2 that we did at scouts
3. Shotguns (family farms and corporate events for clay pigeon shooting ).
I AM NO EXPERT AND NO YANK... but for me, it just sounded like an airgun ... or similar.
As for capturing the bullet in a picture flying across the sky .... Jesus Wept.
PS Your comment is spot on.
The presence of the flag in the background of the iconic photo is kind of like investigators finding perfectly intact passports of the 9/11 terrorists amidst the rubble. It's the tell.
https://odysee.com/@CosmicEvent:5/Donald-Trump%E2%80%99s-assassination-attempt:c
By this point on Sunday I know you're buzzed. Quite a bit.
Even though you are, can you take a shot at the story? For example, who cut Trump's ear?
It certainly was not a .55 grain .223 bullet traveling at 3,240 feet per second. That would have taken his ear off.
There was no cut by a bullet. There was no blood splatter on his hair or collar and no blood on his right and. It was either a fake (slow mo video shoes his right hand going to his ear BEFORE he flinched from gunshots) or it was from glass hards from the teleprompter.
So many things way off they support multiple conflicting theories - a Roshomon!
Yep.
The first thing you say, OH whilst standing and punching the ir is "FIGHT, fight, fight" !!!?. It is all bllx.
You in England? Who fixed that uncalled offside for Spaniards? Was Trump involved in anyway?
The narrative now is it was "major security failure". As in 9/11 - "yeah, we knew about plans to fly planes into tall buildings and we tracked the guys training. Just failed, you know."
Take the guns, more clampdown, all too predictable and people need to understand that both parties are 2 cheeks of the same UN and WEF arse.
Oh by the way, they all want social unrest; UK and EU - we are having the same thing as well.
Ryan Dawson @ @RyLiberty posted NY Times "Chinese shooter" ancreport.com
You will probably be missed by a handful of people.
Brave man, Lance. You preemptively blocked me! Heckofajob!
Spot on...the US an evil empire always...from its inception (genocide) to its dying days (?) (genocide, ecocide, grotesque flesh eating capitalism...)
You are using logic indentical to that which Zionists apply to the holocaust. One evil justifies and diminishes the validity of all other evils.
And what about Muslim killing Muslims in the name of Allah? Simple one vector arguments are wrought with counter arguements.
how about Jews killing Jews in the name of the Hannibal doctrine?
Oh bingo! You win the thread.
Remember the good old days when it was Christian s killing Christians in the name of Gawd?
How to undo all the evil and all the violence ?
Hell on earth
Thank you Ela for those links. Makes for some interesting reading...
I'm surprised how little I care about what happened, there was a time when I would have been all over /r/conspiracy trying to figure out the truth.
Just don't care.
Exactly how I feel. It’s a non story.
It's Not that I don't care but it was very predictable and will be just another story before long. Meanwhile, Israel has been bombing the fuck out of tent villages and schools in Gaza, escaping the glare of publicity. Refocus on the genocide, it's the real crime and tragedy of our times (among many others).
Wizard,
"Just don't care." Sadly, I think you reflecting much of what will prevail in the future, providing there will be a future of course.
It’s huge story. Why care about anything? It’s all connected
Thank you Caitlin.
Glenn Greenwald did a stark reminder of just how "Biden is not and has never been a decent person".
https://rumble.com/v56j00a-is-joe-biden-a-good-and-decent-man.html.
Good/decent people don't become rulers/heads-of-state (I really hope to be proven wrong). Power corrupts AND corruptible people are more attracted to power. (Why do we get the wrong leaders? Brian Klaas at Science and Cocktails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Oab42VZRE)
Just watched this and it is excellent. I will likely watch again. Thank you for sharing.
I also recommend this book: "Corruptible: Who Gets Power and How It Changes Us" (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56899219) by the same author.
That’s a must watch. I was telling people about Biden’s history while he was in the basement talking nonsense.
the main thing to remember is, that whoever occupies the WH, has to dance along the tunes of the puppet masters. Be it an empty headed or one with one ear (come to think of Van Gogh LOL) does not matter. For almost 100 years now the president has been just a facade. The one who did not want to be that, did not live.
Nailed it!
Are you implying that Trump has a brain unless it's blown off?
I am not one given to spiritual experiences living in this grimy world for so long, but I had a visit from George Orwell as I was sitting on my balcony early this am. He has always helped to see things no one wants to pay attention to.
Orwell was a phony.
Thank you.
Yeah, he was a great guy
I'd call that a prophetic experience
You misinterpret Orwell. He was a policeman in India. He saw the racism at the core of Empire and hated it and he criticized it.
An Academic perspective
"Abstract
European imperialism justified itself in terms of a ‘science’ of racial hierarchy with white people at the top. Orwell experienced racial injustice in the East and sought to emancipate himself from racial thinking: he concluded there was no such thing as race, which was ‘the invention of conquering nations’. Nonetheless, while some of his compatriots shrank from Asians as ‘beastly’, he writes with strange enthusiasm about the beauty of Burmese men. The dark suffering face became his recurring metonym for injustice. After Burma he says he was haunted by the ‘innumerable remembered faces’ of Burmese imprisoned, beaten, and condemned: in Nineteen Eighty-Four, the future is a boot stamping on a human face. In wartime, African Americans and Jews joined his list of victims of racial injustice, and he struggled to understand anti-Semitism: ‘the Jew is evidently a scapegoat, though for what he is a scapegoat we do not yet know’.
https://academic.oup.com/book/43860/chapter-abstract/370820596?redirectedFrom=fulltext
The Jews think Orwell was an anti-semite:
https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/the-ever-present-antisemitism-of-george-orwell-mk2pu7e9
I would encourage you not to denigrate another person's spiritual experiences. I take Nancy McGreevy at her word.
I fell off my chair when I learned that Trumps injuries were not from a bullet wound but from shards of glass from an exploded teleprompter.
Literally, the message was the medium (to transpose McLuhan).
US Army Sniper Breaks Down Trump Shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xuv33glHkM
I just watched this video and, although I was never a sniper like this young man is, I do have some similar training on weapons from my military career. He lays it all out very distinctly, much as I had already thought about based on other reports I had read so far.
I had written an Op Ed earlier today for my own channel to be livestreamed later that will now be revised to reflect what this young man detailed in this interview.
I will be paying close attention to the media from all over the world in the coming days to see how all of this gets spun out.
Will this incident push the MAGA's into the white house and U.S. congress? That may be the existential question on everyone's lips around the world right now and what will that man for the future of the United States and the world at large.
Trump's foreign policy very similar to Biden's, so i don't see it as an existential question. the rest of the world will be dealing with a psychopathic warmonger in any case.
Exactly. "Triden" and "Bump" are one and the same on policy. The only way to end the violence in both the US and around the world is to elect a pro-peace/anti-genocide president. Jill Stein is that president. https://jillstein2024.com
Why have they been after Trump this badly then? Why is this TDS a real thing (I know, I've observed it up close and personal, and not once)?
I don't know, but it's as if the propagandists have riled up people to the point that they believe Trump is the epitome of all evil and so it's permissible to take shots at him in a crowd. They've created a full-blown mental illness with TDS. And they're okay with that. Must be part of their plan to manipulate and control us?
So it's not because they're afraid for him to destroy their nirvana, albeit clumsily and unwittingly?
He said "we're in Syria for oil" - bluntly revealing what the US is about. He's after NATO - they're all horrified if he's president again. He's definitely after fixing Ukraine war, and even if he does nothing for Gaza, stopping Ukraine bloodshed is not a small thing, don't you think? And that intent makes the world war cabal's blood boil. It's not a coincidence Orban has been traveling back and forth meeting with Trump, and not with anyone currently in power. Heck, even Maduro sent his best wishes to Trump.
We could come up with some more. Are these not legitimate reasons for them to try take him out? Are they not what current global cabal is fearful of?
As far as manipulation and controlling - they've been doing it pretty well with other means. Trump is convenient to have, but they'd have other tools in his absence. They do try to get rid of him after all.
So why are they after Trump this badly? Wouldn't you agree that if Biden's brains were blown out then nothing would happen, as his are out of commission anyway? But apparently Trump's matter? Why?
i tried to reply for some reason substack is requiring me to sign in twice--anyway maybe just to destablize shit to the point of declaring martial law. I'm not saying it makes sense, but our "best and brightest" are lost in their own bubble--i dont know what kind of conversations they are having about how to deal with the rest of us, but i take it as a given they don't care what happens to us.
OK, destabilization. Why is it that it's dealing with Trump exclusively that would achieve that? Why wouldn't they try to eliminate Biden or anybody else sufficiently high up? Or something else entirely if they're after martial law?
That is, why is it exclusively Trump via prosecution/elimination of whom the required destabilization can be achieved?
im not saying they would be dealing with Trump exclusively. they would eliminate Biden or anyone higher up. Since Trump survived, i'm saying they likely would eliminate Biden exclusively, or whoever else gets in their way. Or both of them. I'm saying the goal is destabilization; that doesn't require the elimination of both--Trump is going to win in all probability now, and I would not be surprised to see Biden have an unfortunate stage accident or choke on his meds. Ari Emanuel the well known Jewish billionaire wants to dump Biden, for example. I expect he is representative of the megarich Jewish donor class, and maybe the megarich donor class in general. Biden and Trump are just their tools, and they are replaceable tools.
Nothing but cover. Claims gun was a .22 (didn't mention AR-15). Was not critical of Secret Service failures ( a flat roof on a building 125 yards from the stage, just one of a small groups of buildings, was not defended???) The guy claimed shooter was "ANTIFA" an "old fat guy" with no training (assassin was 20 years old and slim).
Guy said shot came from the rear, while it came from the side. NY Times video shows Secret Service snipers on rooftop aiming at assassin as Trump is speaking, BEFORE shots are fired. Look
https://www.nytimes.com/?auth=forgot-password&referring_pv_id=rNBuZIdc8a-xnRDWSf2IAq_b
An AR15 shoots .22 bullets. Although only 150 yards, a modest cough is enough to blow .22s off track. A person who’d done his homework would have used a Western 68 or at least a creedmoor
Actually play it so you can listen: https://t.me/SolovievLive/269113
How did assassin get 8 shots off?
The timing will get very close investigation. I understand that snipers are integrated with ground crews. One had a headset on. A guy in a BBC interview said he and several others saw the assassin on the roof and were trying to warn cops for several minutes (3 or 4 I think he said). How is that possible?
"How did assassin get 8 shots off?" - I never heard he made this many. From the sounds alone how can you tell who's shooting?
I'm relying on NY Times reporting, who relied on an academic acoustics expert.. They said assassin fired 8 shots: a group of 3 followed by a burst of 5. I have no idea who was shooting. But surely the experts will know.
Expert Secret Service marksmen would not take 5 shots to kill a target just 150 yards away.
They'd more or less land in the same area then. Well, they say one person dead and two critically injured. Maybe by more bullet than one each. Let's see what they say (hopefully) once they investigate.
Wow!!!
So what we have is a 20 year old, barely out of high school, used an AR-15 type rifle (outlawed in many other countries including Australia), who remarkably got close enough to make the shot, and was taken out seconds afterward by Secret Service marksmen.
Two interesting points the expert interviewed here makes:
1) Any trained sniper could have made this shot successfully. i.e. He called it a "chip" shot. Which indicates this 20 year old had probably never trained much at all. And from other reports the shooter had not been "rushed", he had been aiming for a minute or two
2) The Sniper Expert also said he wasn't too surprised the shooter was able to get so close. I think that was the biggest takeaway for me from the interview, that it wasn't too surprising you had someone able to crawl on a roof 150 meters away - at least to the Expert interviewer here. To me, that's one of the biggest surprises of what happened - how could the secret service miss someone climbing on a nearby roof??
My own afterthoughts here: at 20 years old, it's easy to lose yourself in ideology and not think very rationally, even if you don't have a history of any type of mental problems. This guy given initial reports, looked like a fairly ordinary 20 year old, no apparent history of psychiatric problems (as of today) - more will obviously be reported in the future.
And it's an AR-15 yet again. I mean, can we get a little stricter control over these weapons? Who the fuck needs an AR-15, other than mass shooters? And I believe in the right to own a firearm.
If he were taken alive I could almost hear him utter "I'm a patsy". But the interested parties wouldn't want that.
So you think a conspiracy assassin would MISS the target? Not credible.
I don't think he was worked with directly, no. Looks like TDS worm was planted in his brain. Planters are all around and aplenty. That was sufficient.
But you never know what might pop in one's head once they're caught and made realize what they did and how their life's prior events add up.
It will be interesting what is uncovered on this guy. If there are any connections at all to the deep state - any kind of liaisons discovered in his past, look out. But, my current guess is it's just another AR-15 nutjob shooter. But it's only been a day so we'll see. There will be plenty of conspiracy theories. The election though, pretty much over as soon as Trump did that fist pump to the rally and to the rest of us who watched afterwards. Compare that to Genocide Joe Biden's dementia patient routines - and well, yeah.
Based on his age I'd say he's just totally filled with TDS and it rot his brain. Everybody around him knew it and he would be encouraged by the interested parties to make the next step, without anyone being directly involved. Just steer the fool and allow him to make the move.
Somewhat similar to the guy who shot Fico of Slovakia. Only that one was much older. Just proving the age does not equal wisdom.
Yes. So those doing the steering - any connections to deep state? Will obviously be investigated now for the next two decades.
jamenta, A fist pump and a face contorted with hatred, ordering people to fight their own - is that what it takes for the American people to vote for a president?!
I do not like Trump. I think he is a scamster and a con artist and a warmonger and a phony populist, among other things. But he was very clever with the fist pump, right after being shot at - because many people will see that as a show of strength, and it will work very well against a POTUS who refuses to resign because of his obvious dementia. Juxtapose someone who is clearly being selfish for his own aggrandizement, to a person who appears to have heroically survived an assassination attempt. It's all about the optics and the perception. And IMO, it's all over for Genocide Joe. Unless they find some other way to make Trump disappear, it's all she wrote.
The source in that video is a former sniper and christian nationalist, as is the host. He provided sniper support consulting. He's not about to criticize his colleagues.
They have agenda's - and that is OBVIOUS. Not a reliable source.
Dude - just go away. The guy being a "christian nationalist" has no bearing on his expertise as a sniper. The interview was done 11 hours ago. Still going to vote for RFK Jr. - Mr. Fish Face?
No bearing? He called the assassin "ANTIFA". You think that has anything to do with his expertise as a sniper? The host spoke of Jesus, both had books on Jesus in the background, and called the assassin an "evil doer".
As a sniper, he killed many people in foreign lands. What would Jesus do?
You know, it's true, Atheists can be just as retarded as Christian Nationalists ...
That "expert" is totally biased and therefore totally unreliable. He made several fact errors and poor judgements as well, as I noted.
this guy isn't a Christian Nationalist, dunno how his analysis compares but he thinks the security mistakes were suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6-z0PqTKeU
First esoteric point on the flag as wind indicator is absurd. Shot was fired from less than 150 yards, greatly reducing role of wind. It was NOT 300 yards and Trump was not a moving target. I argue flag could have been placed there for photo op.
The shooter was a 20 year old with no training and the photos I saw show no scope on the rifle.
The videos I've seen of the people observing assassin on the roof were when he was DEAD after the fact. The witness testimony (BBC interview) is not supported by video.
Much too much of the other crap is paranoid conspiracy theory that ignores the basic facts, which are a Roshomon: they support both theories that it was an indide job and that it was staged by Trump.
Trump moved his head. also Brian Berletic thinks the wind was still a factor, and he did receive military training in shooting.
I like his analysis of security lapses and failures, but I wouldn't conjecture conspiracy theories (or false flag events) based on that analysis (like he alludes to in his video).
People often over-estimate the competence level of experts, academics, intellectuals, organizations, corporations, people in power, oligarchs, etc.. People often seem to believe that "if so-and-so person/organization is one of the best in the world" then they must be competent 'always'. The reality is that failures happen all the time. Mistakes happen all the time (sometimes even by the most qualified and experienced people). Add in the element of randomness and unpredictability - and you have multiple points of possible failure in any scenario/event (even high profile ones).
Unfortunately, most people are unable to come to grips with "normal human folly and stupidity", "inadequate preparedness", and "hubris that leads to complacency, shortsightedness, negligence, and errors in judgement" (especially for high profile/intensity events) - and often go in the direction of conspiracy theories to try to resolve the cognitive dissonance between what they observe/experience and their interpretation /conception of how the world works (or should).
In a sense, many conspiracy theories are an attempt to explain the reality in a way so as to "fit-in" with an already believed/ingrained world-view and system - i.e. making unexplainable observations fit/conform to existing belief systems. If narratives have to change for that to happen, then so be it - whatever resolves the discomfort. (Revisionist histories are a good example of changing narratives to fit dominant/socially-acceptable belief systems).
So you're a "major security lapse" dupe, Chokaski. You could have put it in fewer words.
Next time run it by Jeapo first. She has a knack for one-liners conveying as much as you do in several pages.
I used to think that. Now that I understand what my government is capable of, I firmly believe we need a 4th branch of government called ‘we the fucking people have guns too’. Consider the constant repetition of ‘the shooter used an AR-15 style rifle’ by the paid propagandists is to make it seem like it’s an epidemic that must be cured by banning all guns (that could enable a resistance). I will sit here in my bomb bunker clutching a bible and gun praying that’s never needed. 😉
I am not against gun ownership. But I am for more control over who is qualified for certain type of guns, and there needs to be more responsibility imposed on ownership - for a greater level of public safety - for us all.
Yes crazy people should not have access to guns (of course they’ll call anyone suspicious of government agencies too crazy to own a gun). Tough nut to crack
Freedom - doesn't mean you're free to do whatever the fuck you want in a civil society. Everybody gets to enjoy freedom, but only because we all agree upon certain rules to protect our freedoms. And some of these rules ought to be in regard to the billionaire sociopaths currently running the US into the ground, making money anyway they can - for themselves.
Freedom isn't something where you can be a selfish asshole and drive down a residential street at 100 mph. Freedom means we all respect the freedom of other people we live with who are our neighbors, and agree upon the value of each person's life - and don't exploit them to the hilt - just because you can.
The purpose of Facebook is mass manipulation and diversion, not information. The medium itself is designed to induce brain death. There is no point in thinking you can awaken people there.
And not least the top leadership of Meta/Facebook includes dedicated Zionists, based on their own history of statements and donations. So no sugar they are shutting down all criticism of Zionism. Don’t patronise their business. Especially as you are their product in the first place.
Girl, you are keepin it REAL!
👏👏👏
How could anyone feel anything but deep respect and admiration for Noam Chomsky?
unfortunately turned into a jab pusher
Admired Noam for decades Until he clearly stated the unvaxed be isolated from society - www.independent.co. 10/26/21 Oliver Browning I was confused as a senior who refused the jabs. Those times sure were frightfully filled wth mass media disinformation Manufacturing Consent Edward S Herman + Noam Chomsky Was that book published in 1988?
And he was a Khmer Rouge apologist.
i dont remember that, but he lost me when he pushed for voting for Biden over Trump.
It seems that sometime between 2014 and 2022 Chomsky changed his mind on BDS.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220627-chomsky-on-israeli-apartheid-celebrity-activists-bds-and-the-one-state-solution/amp/
Instagram is now not allowing me to download Palestinian news to upload as a reel. Censorship is alive and well
Definitely a hoax. Just because they shot a kid doesn't mean he did it. Nothing is real today, but babies dying in Gaza with US weapons. Our government gave Wasrael our money to kill children. Abstain 2024!
We deserve better than Hobson's Choice.
People, planet and peace -- vote for the pro-peace/pro-worker/anti-genocide candidate from the Green Party, Jill Stein. https://jillstein2024.com
Don't abstain. Vote for the Socialist Equality Party. I always do.
After all the uproar about “propaganda” on this site, what makes anybody think the information “will come in”? Cui bono? T-rump does. The votes and money and sympathy and anger this event will garner him is fabulous!!!! The hatred of China will go sky high, very good for his next iteration as buffoon in chief. His ranting about our open borders allowing the Chinese to “stream” into the country will be vindicated. Tariffs and military deployments to our borders will be top priority. Hell, this so-called attempt is a bonanza for the Neo-cons. 911 and douche Chaney all over again.
FWIW: there -IS- a problem on the US Southern Border.
What the cause is; why it is allowed; and what to do about it needs to be examined.
Trump didn't do anything about it while he was President. While Obama was President, cages were prepositioned before the on-rush of refugees.
A "real cynic" (such as myself) might compare this flood of refugees to what is happening in Gaza. Need I remind us all of Madeline Albright's declaration that the murder of 500,000 Iraqi Children was "worth it"?
It isn't helpful to call Trump a buffoon since that merely creates friction with those you might otherwise be able to talk with. An worse, it is a tacit indicator that you support Biden -- even if you don't.
May I recommend a heavy dose of Judge Nap's YouTube channel? His guests will provide valuable insights concerning the neocon efforts to maintain American Hegemony and how every scheme they try just makes things worse -- unless you are a BlackRock shareholder.
We have to look beyond Trump and Biden to understand the war fever that grips this nation.
The real problems in this world largely stem from NORTH of the U.S. southern border.
The sounds of a liberal chirping in the weeds—“talk nice or other people will be upset!” I watch Judge Nap everyday. Your conclusions about who and what I must think show you to be as big a buffoon as T-rump.
Well, good job in pushing the envelope and hate. You'll go far.
O honey, I don’t hate you. I just don’t care about you and your stupidity.
Yeah - many of us have figured that out by now.
Catch Ryan Dawson on Judge Nap? ancreport.com @RyLiberty
You're in fine form today, Jeapo. What I find invaluable in this forum - every post will have someone in the comment section to step up and clown, no matter the topic. Today's your turn 😉🤣🤡
Go!!
flip the script: ban on AR-15's
Larry Johnson said it was a .22. The kind I used to hunt squirrels with.
They're all saying that because they KNOW that if it is an AR-15 that will prompt a ban.
An AR-15 fires a .223 caliber bullet, essentially a .22 - but the velocity is very different and so is the effective power when a high speed bullet hits human flesh. It tumbles and destroys organs and bones. A .22 can't come close to that.
22lr and 22wmr tumble as well
'The 223 Rem sends its bullet out of the barrel at more than three times the velocity of the 22 LR, which has dramatic implications for performance"
https://www.ammoforsale.com/ammo-club/22lr-vs-223/#:~:text=Power%2C%20primarily.,has%20dramatic%20implications%20for%20performance.
You know nothing about guns.
Prove it.
"Prove it."
You proved it with your dumbass comment. Only a fucking idiot would think of squirrel hunting with an AR15
Boy did you get the wrong end of a shitty stick. This is why we can’t have nice things.
There are many numbers of johns waving wads of cash at the whores in power. They’re called oligarchs and they’re all fighting each other for sole ownership of the whores. AIPAC, Zionists, WEF-ies, arms manufacturers, Epstein-ers, ALEC, mafia bosses, CIA—I’m sure you know the usual suspects.