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US Army Sniper Breaks Down Trump Shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xuv33glHkM

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Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

I just watched this video and, although I was never a sniper like this young man is, I do have some similar training on weapons from my military career. He lays it all out very distinctly, much as I had already thought about based on other reports I had read so far.

I had written an Op Ed earlier today for my own channel to be livestreamed later that will now be revised to reflect what this young man detailed in this interview.

I will be paying close attention to the media from all over the world in the coming days to see how all of this gets spun out.

Will this incident push the MAGA's into the white house and U.S. congress? That may be the existential question on everyone's lips around the world right now and what will that man for the future of the United States and the world at large.

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pretzelattack's avatar

Trump's foreign policy very similar to Biden's, so i don't see it as an existential question. the rest of the world will be dealing with a psychopathic warmonger in any case.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Exactly. "Triden" and "Bump" are one and the same on policy. The only way to end the violence in both the US and around the world is to elect a pro-peace/anti-genocide president. Jill Stein is that president. https://jillstein2024.com

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russian_bot's avatar

Why have they been after Trump this badly then? Why is this TDS a real thing (I know, I've observed it up close and personal, and not once)?

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

I don't know, but it's as if the propagandists have riled up people to the point that they believe Trump is the epitome of all evil and so it's permissible to take shots at him in a crowd. They've created a full-blown mental illness with TDS. And they're okay with that. Must be part of their plan to manipulate and control us?

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russian_bot's avatar

So it's not because they're afraid for him to destroy their nirvana, albeit clumsily and unwittingly?

He said "we're in Syria for oil" - bluntly revealing what the US is about. He's after NATO - they're all horrified if he's president again. He's definitely after fixing Ukraine war, and even if he does nothing for Gaza, stopping Ukraine bloodshed is not a small thing, don't you think? And that intent makes the world war cabal's blood boil. It's not a coincidence Orban has been traveling back and forth meeting with Trump, and not with anyone currently in power. Heck, even Maduro sent his best wishes to Trump.

We could come up with some more. Are these not legitimate reasons for them to try take him out? Are they not what current global cabal is fearful of?

As far as manipulation and controlling - they've been doing it pretty well with other means. Trump is convenient to have, but they'd have other tools in his absence. They do try to get rid of him after all.

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russian_bot's avatar

So why are they after Trump this badly? Wouldn't you agree that if Biden's brains were blown out then nothing would happen, as his are out of commission anyway? But apparently Trump's matter? Why?

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pretzelattack's avatar

i tried to reply for some reason substack is requiring me to sign in twice--anyway maybe just to destablize shit to the point of declaring martial law. I'm not saying it makes sense, but our "best and brightest" are lost in their own bubble--i dont know what kind of conversations they are having about how to deal with the rest of us, but i take it as a given they don't care what happens to us.

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russian_bot's avatar

OK, destabilization. Why is it that it's dealing with Trump exclusively that would achieve that? Why wouldn't they try to eliminate Biden or anybody else sufficiently high up? Or something else entirely if they're after martial law?

That is, why is it exclusively Trump via prosecution/elimination of whom the required destabilization can be achieved?

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pretzelattack's avatar

im not saying they would be dealing with Trump exclusively. they would eliminate Biden or anyone higher up. Since Trump survived, i'm saying they likely would eliminate Biden exclusively, or whoever else gets in their way. Or both of them. I'm saying the goal is destabilization; that doesn't require the elimination of both--Trump is going to win in all probability now, and I would not be surprised to see Biden have an unfortunate stage accident or choke on his meds. Ari Emanuel the well known Jewish billionaire wants to dump Biden, for example. I expect he is representative of the megarich Jewish donor class, and maybe the megarich donor class in general. Biden and Trump are just their tools, and they are replaceable tools.

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bill wolfe's avatar

Nothing but cover. Claims gun was a .22 (didn't mention AR-15). Was not critical of Secret Service failures ( a flat roof on a building 125 yards from the stage, just one of a small groups of buildings, was not defended???) The guy claimed shooter was "ANTIFA" an "old fat guy" with no training (assassin was 20 years old and slim).

Guy said shot came from the rear, while it came from the side. NY Times video shows Secret Service snipers on rooftop aiming at assassin as Trump is speaking, BEFORE shots are fired. Look

https://www.nytimes.com/?auth=forgot-password&referring_pv_id=rNBuZIdc8a-xnRDWSf2IAq_b

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A.P. Bleeks's avatar

An AR15 shoots .22 bullets. Although only 150 yards, a modest cough is enough to blow .22s off track. A person who’d done his homework would have used a Western 68 or at least a creedmoor

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russian_bot's avatar

Actually play it so you can listen: https://t.me/SolovievLive/269113

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bill wolfe's avatar

How did assassin get 8 shots off?

The timing will get very close investigation. I understand that snipers are integrated with ground crews. One had a headset on. A guy in a BBC interview said he and several others saw the assassin on the roof and were trying to warn cops for several minutes (3 or 4 I think he said). How is that possible?

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russian_bot's avatar

"How did assassin get 8 shots off?" - I never heard he made this many. From the sounds alone how can you tell who's shooting?

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bill wolfe's avatar

I'm relying on NY Times reporting, who relied on an academic acoustics expert.. They said assassin fired 8 shots: a group of 3 followed by a burst of 5. I have no idea who was shooting. But surely the experts will know.

Expert Secret Service marksmen would not take 5 shots to kill a target just 150 yards away.

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russian_bot's avatar

They'd more or less land in the same area then. Well, they say one person dead and two critically injured. Maybe by more bullet than one each. Let's see what they say (hopefully) once they investigate.

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jamenta's avatar

So what we have is a 20 year old, barely out of high school, used an AR-15 type rifle (outlawed in many other countries including Australia), who remarkably got close enough to make the shot, and was taken out seconds afterward by Secret Service marksmen.

Two interesting points the expert interviewed here makes:

1) Any trained sniper could have made this shot successfully. i.e. He called it a "chip" shot. Which indicates this 20 year old had probably never trained much at all. And from other reports the shooter had not been "rushed", he had been aiming for a minute or two

2) The Sniper Expert also said he wasn't too surprised the shooter was able to get so close. I think that was the biggest takeaway for me from the interview, that it wasn't too surprising you had someone able to crawl on a roof 150 meters away - at least to the Expert interviewer here. To me, that's one of the biggest surprises of what happened - how could the secret service miss someone climbing on a nearby roof??

My own afterthoughts here: at 20 years old, it's easy to lose yourself in ideology and not think very rationally, even if you don't have a history of any type of mental problems. This guy given initial reports, looked like a fairly ordinary 20 year old, no apparent history of psychiatric problems (as of today) - more will obviously be reported in the future.

And it's an AR-15 yet again. I mean, can we get a little stricter control over these weapons? Who the fuck needs an AR-15, other than mass shooters? And I believe in the right to own a firearm.

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russian_bot's avatar

If he were taken alive I could almost hear him utter "I'm a patsy". But the interested parties wouldn't want that.

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bill wolfe's avatar

So you think a conspiracy assassin would MISS the target? Not credible.

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jamenta's avatar

It will be interesting what is uncovered on this guy. If there are any connections at all to the deep state - any kind of liaisons discovered in his past, look out. But, my current guess is it's just another AR-15 nutjob shooter. But it's only been a day so we'll see. There will be plenty of conspiracy theories. The election though, pretty much over as soon as Trump did that fist pump to the rally and to the rest of us who watched afterwards. Compare that to Genocide Joe Biden's dementia patient routines - and well, yeah.

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russian_bot's avatar

Based on his age I'd say he's just totally filled with TDS and it rot his brain. Everybody around him knew it and he would be encouraged by the interested parties to make the next step, without anyone being directly involved. Just steer the fool and allow him to make the move.

Somewhat similar to the guy who shot Fico of Slovakia. Only that one was much older. Just proving the age does not equal wisdom.

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jamenta's avatar

Yes. So those doing the steering - any connections to deep state? Will obviously be investigated now for the next two decades.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

jamenta, A fist pump and a face contorted with hatred, ordering people to fight their own - is that what it takes for the American people to vote for a president?!

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jamenta's avatar

I do not like Trump. I think he is a scamster and a con artist and a warmonger and a phony populist, among other things. But he was very clever with the fist pump, right after being shot at - because many people will see that as a show of strength, and it will work very well against a POTUS who refuses to resign because of his obvious dementia. Juxtapose someone who is clearly being selfish for his own aggrandizement, to a person who appears to have heroically survived an assassination attempt. It's all about the optics and the perception. And IMO, it's all over for Genocide Joe. Unless they find some other way to make Trump disappear, it's all she wrote.

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bill wolfe's avatar

The source in that video is a former sniper and christian nationalist, as is the host. He provided sniper support consulting. He's not about to criticize his colleagues.

They have agenda's - and that is OBVIOUS. Not a reliable source.

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jamenta's avatar

Dude - just go away. The guy being a "christian nationalist" has no bearing on his expertise as a sniper. The interview was done 11 hours ago. Still going to vote for RFK Jr. - Mr. Fish Face?

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bill wolfe's avatar

No bearing? He called the assassin "ANTIFA". You think that has anything to do with his expertise as a sniper? The host spoke of Jesus, both had books on Jesus in the background, and called the assassin an "evil doer".

As a sniper, he killed many people in foreign lands. What would Jesus do?

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jamenta's avatar

You know, it's true, Atheists can be just as retarded as Christian Nationalists ...

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bill wolfe's avatar

That "expert" is totally biased and therefore totally unreliable. He made several fact errors and poor judgements as well, as I noted.

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pretzelattack's avatar

this guy isn't a Christian Nationalist, dunno how his analysis compares but he thinks the security mistakes were suspicious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6-z0PqTKeU

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bill wolfe's avatar

First esoteric point on the flag as wind indicator is absurd. Shot was fired from less than 150 yards, greatly reducing role of wind. It was NOT 300 yards and Trump was not a moving target. I argue flag could have been placed there for photo op.

The shooter was a 20 year old with no training and the photos I saw show no scope on the rifle.

The videos I've seen of the people observing assassin on the roof were when he was DEAD after the fact. The witness testimony (BBC interview) is not supported by video.

Much too much of the other crap is paranoid conspiracy theory that ignores the basic facts, which are a Roshomon: they support both theories that it was an indide job and that it was staged by Trump.

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pretzelattack's avatar

Trump moved his head. also Brian Berletic thinks the wind was still a factor, and he did receive military training in shooting.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I like his analysis of security lapses and failures, but I wouldn't conjecture conspiracy theories (or false flag events) based on that analysis (like he alludes to in his video).

People often over-estimate the competence level of experts, academics, intellectuals, organizations, corporations, people in power, oligarchs, etc.. People often seem to believe that "if so-and-so person/organization is one of the best in the world" then they must be competent 'always'. The reality is that failures happen all the time. Mistakes happen all the time (sometimes even by the most qualified and experienced people). Add in the element of randomness and unpredictability - and you have multiple points of possible failure in any scenario/event (even high profile ones).

Unfortunately, most people are unable to come to grips with "normal human folly and stupidity", "inadequate preparedness", and "hubris that leads to complacency, shortsightedness, negligence, and errors in judgement" (especially for high profile/intensity events) - and often go in the direction of conspiracy theories to try to resolve the cognitive dissonance between what they observe/experience and their interpretation /conception of how the world works (or should).

In a sense, many conspiracy theories are an attempt to explain the reality in a way so as to "fit-in" with an already believed/ingrained world-view and system - i.e. making unexplainable observations fit/conform to existing belief systems. If narratives have to change for that to happen, then so be it - whatever resolves the discomfort. (Revisionist histories are a good example of changing narratives to fit dominant/socially-acceptable belief systems).

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Michael's avatar

I used to think that. Now that I understand what my government is capable of, I firmly believe we need a 4th branch of government called ‘we the fucking people have guns too’. Consider the constant repetition of ‘the shooter used an AR-15 style rifle’ by the paid propagandists is to make it seem like it’s an epidemic that must be cured by banning all guns (that could enable a resistance). I will sit here in my bomb bunker clutching a bible and gun praying that’s never needed. 😉

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jamenta's avatar

I am not against gun ownership. But I am for more control over who is qualified for certain type of guns, and there needs to be more responsibility imposed on ownership - for a greater level of public safety - for us all.

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Michael's avatar

Yes crazy people should not have access to guns (of course they’ll call anyone suspicious of government agencies too crazy to own a gun). Tough nut to crack

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jamenta's avatar

Freedom - doesn't mean you're free to do whatever the fuck you want in a civil society. Everybody gets to enjoy freedom, but only because we all agree upon certain rules to protect our freedoms. And some of these rules ought to be in regard to the billionaire sociopaths currently running the US into the ground, making money anyway they can - for themselves.

Freedom isn't something where you can be a selfish asshole and drive down a residential street at 100 mph. Freedom means we all respect the freedom of other people we live with who are our neighbors, and agree upon the value of each person's life - and don't exploit them to the hilt - just because you can.

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