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bill wolfe's avatar

Nothing but cover. Claims gun was a .22 (didn't mention AR-15). Was not critical of Secret Service failures ( a flat roof on a building 125 yards from the stage, just one of a small groups of buildings, was not defended???) The guy claimed shooter was "ANTIFA" an "old fat guy" with no training (assassin was 20 years old and slim).

Guy said shot came from the rear, while it came from the side. NY Times video shows Secret Service snipers on rooftop aiming at assassin as Trump is speaking, BEFORE shots are fired. Look

https://www.nytimes.com/?auth=forgot-password&referring_pv_id=rNBuZIdc8a-xnRDWSf2IAq_b

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A.P. Bleeks's avatar

An AR15 shoots .22 bullets. Although only 150 yards, a modest cough is enough to blow .22s off track. A person who’d done his homework would have used a Western 68 or at least a creedmoor

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russian_bot's avatar

Actually play it so you can listen: https://t.me/SolovievLive/269113

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bill wolfe's avatar

How did assassin get 8 shots off?

The timing will get very close investigation. I understand that snipers are integrated with ground crews. One had a headset on. A guy in a BBC interview said he and several others saw the assassin on the roof and were trying to warn cops for several minutes (3 or 4 I think he said). How is that possible?

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russian_bot's avatar

"How did assassin get 8 shots off?" - I never heard he made this many. From the sounds alone how can you tell who's shooting?

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bill wolfe's avatar

I'm relying on NY Times reporting, who relied on an academic acoustics expert.. They said assassin fired 8 shots: a group of 3 followed by a burst of 5. I have no idea who was shooting. But surely the experts will know.

Expert Secret Service marksmen would not take 5 shots to kill a target just 150 yards away.

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russian_bot's avatar

They'd more or less land in the same area then. Well, they say one person dead and two critically injured. Maybe by more bullet than one each. Let's see what they say (hopefully) once they investigate.

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bill wolfe's avatar

DAMNING FACTS: 1) Single adjacent nearby Roof not secured. 2) Gunman allowed access to site (likely in a vehicle) with a weapon, not detected. 3) gunman climbs up building to roof, with rifle visible, not detected. 4) multiple people witness gunman ascending building and shout warnings to police and secret serve for several minutes, no response. Trump IS allowed to continue to speak. 5) Secret Service snipers see suspected assassin armed with rifle on nearby roof. There is some delay in receiving authorization to kill. The delay results in assassin being able to fire at least 3 and perhaps 8 shots.

Really poor performance.

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bill wolfe's avatar

Secret Service snipers were firing away from the crowd, so highly likely that victims shot by assassin.

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