We need to stop the brainwashing of children that war is good, glamorous and full of integrity and honour. I was brought up on stories of WWII and good v evil as I played with my toy soldiers. When in second year of law degree I was head hunted by U.K. MoD. I thought at 20 it was a good and honourable thing. Two years army posting (so they could watch me and do deep background checks. I was promoted to political officer at command. Two years later promoted into press and disinformation then again to Director of Defence Policy all under 30. Then I became ill, started drinking. I couldn’t cope with the outright lies, not spin, lies I was writing in briefs for PM question time, the Secretary of State for Defence to release in the house, to MPs, papers, NATO, let alone the public. Documents shredded and burnt so unable to be released in the future to the public. Zero accountability. All sworn to secrecy and to the crown. People aren’t even aware there are security levels above Top Secret. Secret Memorandums of Understanding between countries. Like the not so secret one last year when U.K. and Australia formed a pact with the USA that when they go to war with China all three go. American land nukes on Australian soil and nuclear attack subs from U.K. and U.S. in pacific rim.
It's not just that we are brought up to believe war is honourable and good (but only when we do it, of course) but that we are brought up to believe in the basic decency of people, including our leaders (both elected and appointed). I grew up in a scientific family where we were encouraged to think for ourselves and question everything - but even so, we all have these basic assumptions about the world, and we rarely question them.
Over the past few years, more & more people have learned that our governments have been lying to us about a whole range of things - but it still comes as a shock to realise just how deliberate this is.
It's impossible to protest about things you don't know about, and the war machine, like Big Pharma, has too much vested interest, too much momentum, and too much of a stranglehold on our societal infrastructure to allow even the knowledge of this to get out into public awareness. And when it does, they have a highly sophisticated process for controlling the narrative, labelling you as a "conspiracy theorist" and what you say as "disinformation".
You mentioned your family. It is within the family we must fight. These liars that are leading humanity to hell must be exposed, deposed, and banished.
Ironically, there was a study recently on what generally are the traits of "happy" people. Seligman I think? Let me check. Yeah, Martin Seligman "Authentic Happiness". One of the traits discovered for people being "happy", is adopting a religion or being spiritual. On the other hand, studies have also shown people with a religion also tend to be more violent in society when they decide to do something "bad".
Not sure if all those Ukrainians and Russians dying right now in Bakhmut and other parts of Ukraine are particularly religious though. Other than the religion of tribalism, and believing the common lie that dying over pieces of land is worth it to you as an individual. I mean, once you're dead you're dead. You may go on in some fashion, true - but you've left the stage of this reality, in an abrupt, tragic, and ugly manner.
People who live in a totalitarian order are "happier" when they play along, sure. But that's just a game that doesn't need to exist. It's better to destroy totalitarian orders of society than to accommodate them, unless you're part of the class that leeches off of other people's labor under some theory of entitlement that is exactly as insipid as any other.
The illusion of happy in totalitarianism is only a facade. This is why drinking and drugs are so popular..it medicates the mind to the "truth" or lie one can tell themselves that you are free to move about the gilded cage.. As long as you can afford it. Stock in lockheed anyone?
Forced cheer is an institution in the commercial West. I don't doubt many of Seligman's subjects are faking it 'til they make it. It's a, if not *the*, credo of the professional-managerial class, who never met a symbol they didn't like to manipulate.
The geological record is full of extinct species that failed to adapt to changing circumstances. There is a distinct possibility of Homo sapiens joining them far too early. What's it to be, folks? The world's nastiest have congregated in Davos to espouse & engineer their 4th Reich bit but don't forget they include the major capitalists who have dragged us to this awesome do-or-die point in history where we stand at the perilous edge of the abyss. My guts tell me not all will die but many will whichever route we take, revolution/uprising or continue with the sleepwalking into a major genocidal event delivered through a hollow needle or thermonuclear war or genuine antibiotic-resistant epidemics or whatever! Personally, I want to bring that rotten global organised WEF criminal cartel down before it takes us down. We're too young to die! Do not go gentle into that good night... (Dylan Thomas)
The psychopaths ruling us all built vast underground citis to hide out from the apocalypse they are creating so it won't be the good and honest folks who survive but the bastards,, and back to square one of society ordered by a host of sociopaths. Rewind repeat, maybe forever as AI decides we are not worth preserving.
That seems to be the game plan of those psychopaths. However, a colony of parasites lurking deep underground who know nothing other than rapacious greed is, IMO, doomed to inevitable failure in short shrift. The survivors I spoke of are likely to be uncontacted tribes or those who society would regard as savages in the jungles of this world unless the terminator event is out & out thermonuclear war in which case there's an #ImmenselyGreaterReset in which we take no part & everything we've ever done crumbles to meaningless dust.
A temporary solution to buy us more time on this side of the apocalypse would be to find these underground nests & chuck a drop or two of mercaptans about, especially around any air intakes. That will render the nest uninhabitable & not allow the psychos any shelter from their planned gross villainy.
I have some friends, who I consider to be equally intelligent as yourself. In the last couple of years they have reversed their positions on the effects of man made climate change. They have scientific reasoning but a big part is propaganda.
Personally, I’m on the fence. However, given the heinous lies and blatant propaganda on all things Covid, which really was essentially a wealth, power and control grab, it seems likely that real or not, that’s what climate change will be used for.
We must build parallel systems to circumvent these corrupted ones.
Let’s create a new decentralized 4th branch of government that is 100% controlled by the people and is used to hold corruption accountable. No one else is coming to save us.
I got halve way through that and liked the premises right up untill you started in on the crypto pyramids schemes.. I thought after saying "decentralized" over and over that crypto would come up...I don't mean to piss on your paraid or be all negative and insulting here but you should have a listen to Snordalhans take on it..
Crypto the end of freedom,, I'll try and find a link..
The elite oligarchs have been pushing for a one world currency for a very long time that they can fully control and crypto is the perfect carrot on a string to sell to the unsuspecting public.
Twitter kicked me off for speaking the truth to power and the status quo.. I get into the mind control aspects and make profound points that can not be easly debunked...so I had to go.. Same as Facebook, they will find a reason to "cancel" people exposing all the lies..
Every time I bring this up im either admonished by people like Jordan Peterson as this idea being abhorrent or I get uncomfortable silence and the faint sounds of crickets chirping in the calm absent night. Then the slinking away of the people of perposed intellect who can't face such an uncomfortable thought that might be more true than their self image can handle.
Humans might just possible be a form of planetary cancer, an anomaly of nature, just with a board of directors, where the meetings minuets reflect the basic drive of their species, devour everything, meeting adjourned.
Couple that with the clever manipulation of superstition fear and religion created by our opulent psycopath leaders and the mind of this cancer is indeed captured to the point it ignores the murder of its host organism and thus itself..
Humans are benign and malignant. It depends on what their societies turn them into. Societies that see themselves as agents of Creation itself are most likely to behave malignantly, lay waste, manufacture unease, and create genocidal peaces.
Of course, Jordie and friends believe they are using their supposed moral authority in service of some greater good, the content of which greater good just happens to coincide almost exactly with whatever was beaten into them as children.
It's clear and apparent that societies put a lot of time and effort into shaping people, according to their values and other lore, to fit the particular social order. Recognizing that fact, I am a person. I can shape and be shaped, and the subject-object of my shaping can be myself. That's pretty empowering! The notion of moral Perfectionism that travels with most ideologies of Becoming is problematic.
Humans squandering their great potential for long term survival and prosperity for the short term satisfaction they get from greed lusts and power.. Perhaps the human is just not capable of getting out of its own way.
Add to that the psycopath that now order all of society (especially in the west) use their power of manipulation of the average mind into this Orwellian hell scape we now find ourselves.. The problem I see with the average moke is they are just DUMB and the systems of public education teaches them to be docile compliant and mindlessly repeating memorized dates and times of historic events (even while false) to better corral them into whatever direction the oligarchs wish... Especially if it's for their cathartic two minute hate.
I agree with your cancer analogy, I’ve used the term virus to describe humans that nature will rid herself of. My personal opinion is that Religion is a male hierarchical business about power and money. Even today in third world countries starving people are forced to listen to sermons to ‘earn’ the right to be fed.
The bible has been rewritten at least fifty times and imagine how many translation errors! Somewhere it went horribly wrong from the first agnostic Christian’s. I believe we are meant to be the caretakers of the planet and all upon it not users and consumers destroying the eco system.
"We are perilously close to becoming the first species on Earth to go extinct due to propaganda."
I'll even go out on a limb and say human beings will be the ONLY species to ever go extinct due to propaganda. Unfortunately, we'll take out a lot of (if not all) innocent species with us once the nuke bombs drop. Therefore, it's time to put the nuclear football into the hands of those species we can trust never to use nukes. I'll go with the cats. Felines are self-absorbed and truly believe they're the greatest creature ever born, so they'd be perfect. They wouldn't blow themselves up and destroy all life on earth. They wouldn't have any birds to watch on Cat TV videos if they did. All hail our feline overlords!
Government psychos understand that most citizens are mentally asleep. They go through their lives in a trance and seldom stop to smell the roses or enter a purposeful thought into their brain think patterns. Most citizens need someone to lead them or something to follow. Enter government "experts" to lead them by the nose.
"We are perilously close to becoming the first species on Earth to go extinct due to propaganda." I actually laughed out loud at that. I am intending that we collectively awaken and make it out of this dystopian quagmire. There are way more of us than the powers that should not be.
By other names, propaganda has always played a large part in the manipulation of citizens and really went crazy after Edward Bernays, and the introduction of the formal science/discipline of psychology (it was a Catholic thing before that, and that is the derivation of the word). However, force is the default position of governments that are not democratic, but use the fetish "democracy" as cover for unilateral decisions citizens don't support, or wouldn't support if properly informed. Consciously or unconsciously, we are inhibited by the various types of force at the disposal of governments. Christianity has used Christ as a mascot, in the same way, and in the same way employed punishment, temporal and spiritual, for transgressions. But as sophisticated as we've become, "concepts" still take precedence over concrete actions, or even definite ideas: We said we were motivated by "freedom" and "justice" when we set out to kill a million innocent Iraqis who had harmed nobody. Millions of citizens in the attacking countries demurred, but the concept ruled over the idea in the end, and produced a human disaster.
We must hold leaders' and pundits' feet to the fire, force them to fully demonstrate how their proposed actions translate into their "concepts" of good. No more vague bullshit and talking points. No more slogans. Let's make democracy more than a word floating in the ether above our heads.
We need to stop the brainwashing of children that war is good, glamorous and full of integrity and honour. I was brought up on stories of WWII and good v evil as I played with my toy soldiers. When in second year of law degree I was head hunted by U.K. MoD. I thought at 20 it was a good and honourable thing. Two years army posting (so they could watch me and do deep background checks. I was promoted to political officer at command. Two years later promoted into press and disinformation then again to Director of Defence Policy all under 30. Then I became ill, started drinking. I couldn’t cope with the outright lies, not spin, lies I was writing in briefs for PM question time, the Secretary of State for Defence to release in the house, to MPs, papers, NATO, let alone the public. Documents shredded and burnt so unable to be released in the future to the public. Zero accountability. All sworn to secrecy and to the crown. People aren’t even aware there are security levels above Top Secret. Secret Memorandums of Understanding between countries. Like the not so secret one last year when U.K. and Australia formed a pact with the USA that when they go to war with China all three go. American land nukes on Australian soil and nuclear attack subs from U.K. and U.S. in pacific rim.
No, most people are not aware of any of this.
It's not just that we are brought up to believe war is honourable and good (but only when we do it, of course) but that we are brought up to believe in the basic decency of people, including our leaders (both elected and appointed). I grew up in a scientific family where we were encouraged to think for ourselves and question everything - but even so, we all have these basic assumptions about the world, and we rarely question them.
Over the past few years, more & more people have learned that our governments have been lying to us about a whole range of things - but it still comes as a shock to realise just how deliberate this is.
It's impossible to protest about things you don't know about, and the war machine, like Big Pharma, has too much vested interest, too much momentum, and too much of a stranglehold on our societal infrastructure to allow even the knowledge of this to get out into public awareness. And when it does, they have a highly sophisticated process for controlling the narrative, labelling you as a "conspiracy theorist" and what you say as "disinformation".
Very effective it is, too.
Unfortunately.
You mentioned your family. It is within the family we must fight. These liars that are leading humanity to hell must be exposed, deposed, and banished.
Wow. Time to make your peace? I forgive you. We are all waking up together... again. Apocalypse Now. Be happy. The time has come for truth and peace.
You don't count the dead when god's on your side. -- Bob Dylan
You're in much deeper caa-caa when you actually believe in your own godhood -- America, Manifest Destiny
Ironically, there was a study recently on what generally are the traits of "happy" people. Seligman I think? Let me check. Yeah, Martin Seligman "Authentic Happiness". One of the traits discovered for people being "happy", is adopting a religion or being spiritual. On the other hand, studies have also shown people with a religion also tend to be more violent in society when they decide to do something "bad".
Not sure if all those Ukrainians and Russians dying right now in Bakhmut and other parts of Ukraine are particularly religious though. Other than the religion of tribalism, and believing the common lie that dying over pieces of land is worth it to you as an individual. I mean, once you're dead you're dead. You may go on in some fashion, true - but you've left the stage of this reality, in an abrupt, tragic, and ugly manner.
People who live in a totalitarian order are "happier" when they play along, sure. But that's just a game that doesn't need to exist. It's better to destroy totalitarian orders of society than to accommodate them, unless you're part of the class that leeches off of other people's labor under some theory of entitlement that is exactly as insipid as any other.
The illusion of happy in totalitarianism is only a facade. This is why drinking and drugs are so popular..it medicates the mind to the "truth" or lie one can tell themselves that you are free to move about the gilded cage.. As long as you can afford it. Stock in lockheed anyone?
Forced cheer is an institution in the commercial West. I don't doubt many of Seligman's subjects are faking it 'til they make it. It's a, if not *the*, credo of the professional-managerial class, who never met a symbol they didn't like to manipulate.
The geological record is full of extinct species that failed to adapt to changing circumstances. There is a distinct possibility of Homo sapiens joining them far too early. What's it to be, folks? The world's nastiest have congregated in Davos to espouse & engineer their 4th Reich bit but don't forget they include the major capitalists who have dragged us to this awesome do-or-die point in history where we stand at the perilous edge of the abyss. My guts tell me not all will die but many will whichever route we take, revolution/uprising or continue with the sleepwalking into a major genocidal event delivered through a hollow needle or thermonuclear war or genuine antibiotic-resistant epidemics or whatever! Personally, I want to bring that rotten global organised WEF criminal cartel down before it takes us down. We're too young to die! Do not go gentle into that good night... (Dylan Thomas)
The psychopaths ruling us all built vast underground citis to hide out from the apocalypse they are creating so it won't be the good and honest folks who survive but the bastards,, and back to square one of society ordered by a host of sociopaths. Rewind repeat, maybe forever as AI decides we are not worth preserving.
It's our job to block the bunker doors.
That seems to be the game plan of those psychopaths. However, a colony of parasites lurking deep underground who know nothing other than rapacious greed is, IMO, doomed to inevitable failure in short shrift. The survivors I spoke of are likely to be uncontacted tribes or those who society would regard as savages in the jungles of this world unless the terminator event is out & out thermonuclear war in which case there's an #ImmenselyGreaterReset in which we take no part & everything we've ever done crumbles to meaningless dust.
A temporary solution to buy us more time on this side of the apocalypse would be to find these underground nests & chuck a drop or two of mercaptans about, especially around any air intakes. That will render the nest uninhabitable & not allow the psychos any shelter from their planned gross villainy.
The American Dream
You have to be asleep to believe it!!!
https://youtu.be/Nyvxt1svxso
In Palo Alto’s small opera house, you still can’t enter a performance without
-- a vaccination card proof and
-- without mask
A full year after both were officially discontinued in CA.....
And all these supposedly well-educated people meekly follow...
Why would you go to a theater and expect something other than theater? ;)
Aperently most don't know about Plato's alogory of the cave either.
Operas are precious and invaluable enjoyment. You should try it ;-))
Very enlightening.
Food for thought.
I have some friends, who I consider to be equally intelligent as yourself. In the last couple of years they have reversed their positions on the effects of man made climate change. They have scientific reasoning but a big part is propaganda.
Personally, I’m on the fence. However, given the heinous lies and blatant propaganda on all things Covid, which really was essentially a wealth, power and control grab, it seems likely that real or not, that’s what climate change will be used for.
In the sense that US bioweapons becoming endemic is a "wealth, power, and control grab", you would be right.
All social manipulations contain a grain of truth. That's what makes them palatable and effective.
We must build parallel systems to circumvent these corrupted ones.
Let’s create a new decentralized 4th branch of government that is 100% controlled by the people and is used to hold corruption accountable. No one else is coming to save us.
https://open.substack.com/pub/joshketry/p/lets-build-a-4th-branch-of-government?r=7oa9d&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
I got halve way through that and liked the premises right up untill you started in on the crypto pyramids schemes.. I thought after saying "decentralized" over and over that crypto would come up...I don't mean to piss on your paraid or be all negative and insulting here but you should have a listen to Snordalhans take on it..
Crypto the end of freedom,, I'll try and find a link..
The elite oligarchs have been pushing for a one world currency for a very long time that they can fully control and crypto is the perfect carrot on a string to sell to the unsuspecting public.
I find it interesting how the YouTube algorithm burried his work so deep down in the YouTube world no one gets to see it.. But this is all by design.
https://youtu.be/1BfMFOd0-l0
Insightful essay. 🎯
#UkraineIsDestroyingTheDanubeDelta as we speak. no one cares. https://twitter.com/minfrastucture/status/1626545726766317568?s=20
Twitter kicked me off for speaking the truth to power and the status quo.. I get into the mind control aspects and make profound points that can not be easly debunked...so I had to go.. Same as Facebook, they will find a reason to "cancel" people exposing all the lies..
they do now what everyone tried to stop them from doing in 2004 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/20/outlook.development1
Every time I bring this up im either admonished by people like Jordan Peterson as this idea being abhorrent or I get uncomfortable silence and the faint sounds of crickets chirping in the calm absent night. Then the slinking away of the people of perposed intellect who can't face such an uncomfortable thought that might be more true than their self image can handle.
Humans might just possible be a form of planetary cancer, an anomaly of nature, just with a board of directors, where the meetings minuets reflect the basic drive of their species, devour everything, meeting adjourned.
Couple that with the clever manipulation of superstition fear and religion created by our opulent psycopath leaders and the mind of this cancer is indeed captured to the point it ignores the murder of its host organism and thus itself..
Humans are benign and malignant. It depends on what their societies turn them into. Societies that see themselves as agents of Creation itself are most likely to behave malignantly, lay waste, manufacture unease, and create genocidal peaces.
Of course, Jordie and friends believe they are using their supposed moral authority in service of some greater good, the content of which greater good just happens to coincide almost exactly with whatever was beaten into them as children.
Actually, humans bear some responsibility. It is not just what their societies turn them into. That is disempowerment. We have the power to become.
It's clear and apparent that societies put a lot of time and effort into shaping people, according to their values and other lore, to fit the particular social order. Recognizing that fact, I am a person. I can shape and be shaped, and the subject-object of my shaping can be myself. That's pretty empowering! The notion of moral Perfectionism that travels with most ideologies of Becoming is problematic.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/jason-mcquinn-critical-self-theory
Humans squandering their great potential for long term survival and prosperity for the short term satisfaction they get from greed lusts and power.. Perhaps the human is just not capable of getting out of its own way.
Add to that the psycopath that now order all of society (especially in the west) use their power of manipulation of the average mind into this Orwellian hell scape we now find ourselves.. The problem I see with the average moke is they are just DUMB and the systems of public education teaches them to be docile compliant and mindlessly repeating memorized dates and times of historic events (even while false) to better corral them into whatever direction the oligarchs wish... Especially if it's for their cathartic two minute hate.
I agree with your cancer analogy, I’ve used the term virus to describe humans that nature will rid herself of. My personal opinion is that Religion is a male hierarchical business about power and money. Even today in third world countries starving people are forced to listen to sermons to ‘earn’ the right to be fed.
The bible has been rewritten at least fifty times and imagine how many translation errors! Somewhere it went horribly wrong from the first agnostic Christian’s. I believe we are meant to be the caretakers of the planet and all upon it not users and consumers destroying the eco system.
Great comment and I agree... Religon in itself is not a bad idea,,but the manipulation of it is used as a control mechanisms
This is a good discussion. Thanks. It pertains to a post I have in progress to be published later today.
"We are perilously close to becoming the first species on Earth to go extinct due to propaganda."
I'll even go out on a limb and say human beings will be the ONLY species to ever go extinct due to propaganda. Unfortunately, we'll take out a lot of (if not all) innocent species with us once the nuke bombs drop. Therefore, it's time to put the nuclear football into the hands of those species we can trust never to use nukes. I'll go with the cats. Felines are self-absorbed and truly believe they're the greatest creature ever born, so they'd be perfect. They wouldn't blow themselves up and destroy all life on earth. They wouldn't have any birds to watch on Cat TV videos if they did. All hail our feline overlords!
Government psychos understand that most citizens are mentally asleep. They go through their lives in a trance and seldom stop to smell the roses or enter a purposeful thought into their brain think patterns. Most citizens need someone to lead them or something to follow. Enter government "experts" to lead them by the nose.
Yes your right about animals unless they get are social ones like ants . Be cautious means you live.
Time for to reassess what an advanced brain is and throw 90% of what we assume we are into the trash bin.
I’m optimistic myself this happening as I write.just looking around at events paraded by Mainstream Media as real news.
It’s actually pretty easy if you don’t have to explain yourself to those Media creatures of habit
"We are perilously close to becoming the first species on Earth to go extinct due to propaganda." I actually laughed out loud at that. I am intending that we collectively awaken and make it out of this dystopian quagmire. There are way more of us than the powers that should not be.
By other names, propaganda has always played a large part in the manipulation of citizens and really went crazy after Edward Bernays, and the introduction of the formal science/discipline of psychology (it was a Catholic thing before that, and that is the derivation of the word). However, force is the default position of governments that are not democratic, but use the fetish "democracy" as cover for unilateral decisions citizens don't support, or wouldn't support if properly informed. Consciously or unconsciously, we are inhibited by the various types of force at the disposal of governments. Christianity has used Christ as a mascot, in the same way, and in the same way employed punishment, temporal and spiritual, for transgressions. But as sophisticated as we've become, "concepts" still take precedence over concrete actions, or even definite ideas: We said we were motivated by "freedom" and "justice" when we set out to kill a million innocent Iraqis who had harmed nobody. Millions of citizens in the attacking countries demurred, but the concept ruled over the idea in the end, and produced a human disaster.
We must hold leaders' and pundits' feet to the fire, force them to fully demonstrate how their proposed actions translate into their "concepts" of good. No more vague bullshit and talking points. No more slogans. Let's make democracy more than a word floating in the ether above our heads.
The century of the self by Adam Curtis is a great film to demonstrate what you are talking about.
Thanks for the tip- I'll look into it.