Israel doesn’t want peace, it wants its God-given land - from the river to the sea. And to be clear, the river they’re referring to is not the Jordan, it’s the Euphrates. Just imagine how many more “today’s” there are still to come.
If they blow up the energy infrastructure of the Middle East, they'll be fighting their following wars with bronze spears. The Empire is driving itself into a dead end, and they have no brakes.
The real question is, are they going to take the Rest of the World with them? We could be looking at a transition from, "Now look what you've gone and made me do, bitch," to, "If I can't have her, no-one will!"
While the majority of the world's population would probably agree that this would be fair karma, unfortunately it wouldn't end there, would it? The Empire could get away with blowing up Nordstream because Germany is a vassal who would not respond in kind. But if Iran took out one of Israel's pipelines, then Israel would take two of Iran's, and before you knew it, all the pipelines, all the wells, all the refineries would be burning, the Gulf and the Suez would be shut down. Boom, half the world's energy supply out for the count.
Now, this would certainly take down the Empire, yes. But, even if we disregard nukes here, you're also talking about a lot of other things going down, like say half the world's food supply.
The oligarchs can certainly afford food at ten times the price, and you might be able to afford food at ten times the price, but the poorest half of the world's population cannot. The least deserving would be the worst punished, as usual.
There is a difference between tactics and strategy.
They are all in on everything the Terrorist State of Israel does! The Zionist Nazi politicians from the US are all the same as the creatures in The Terrorist State of Israel. They already gave the go ahead and attack Iran to those Zionist Nazis!
as you know it is extremely difficult to find out who blew up a pipeline. :-) all it takes is a small yacht, 5 divers and some easy to find explosives on the black market. anyone could've done it.
as in the us, we are few and scattered, and subjected to 'do you condemn hamas/putin (stalin/hitler)?'-style bullying into a 'pledge of allegiance to the oligarchy'. larger groupings or organisations (mostly to the conservative right) are hunted down with 'the six ways to sunday' methods.
most media is absolute oligarchial crap. one checks the headlines to find out what is important to lie about or especially what must be omitted. i'm personally on a diet of some telegram-channels (rt, sputnik, tass, some others, ...), grayzone, mint-press, consortium news, ...
I don’t think they are either weak or indecisive. They just aren’t psychopathic killers that want millions of citizens in the Middle East to die. We know Israel will bomb the most heavily populated areas, hospitals, schools, etc. These countries don’t want war, but they are given no choice, because it’s obvious they are next on the list. It’s a really shitty position that Iran, and Lebanon are in, because they know entering into war with Israel is also entering into war with the US and millions of their citizens may be killed, along with their infrastructure. When the psychopaths attack Iran in the next few days, we will see what the truth is….
It seems part of the warped psychology of a sociopath to feel entitled to whatever they can get away with.
We've all been confronted in our personal lives by some arsehole presenting us with a bad-or-worse option: "Either let me get my way or everybody loses." It's just scary to see it happening on a planetary scale.
Thanks for making clear which river it is their claim includes. I’ve watched the underplaying of just how far their reach goes, when it was convenient.
"Israel never succeeds in killing its way to peace, because that’s not actually a thing."
And neither is screwing to regain your virginity--but somebody out there is probably attempting just such a thing at this very moment somewhere on this planet!
Do you ever feel like you're caught in a time loop where we're seeing the same disastrous moves made by our corrupt Western governments over and over again? That's what Izrealhell's actions remind me of. Settler-colonialism hijacked from previous centuries along with members of the Third Reich and a smattering of PT Barnum's hucksterism thrown in for good measure. This endless bloodshed to bring about "peace" (which isn't actually peace but conquest) in the West of Asia/Middle East has to end for the sake of all our lives and our planet's. Somebody, please stop the time loop NOW and #FreePalestine #FreeLebanon
>>"Do you ever feel like you're caught in a time loop where we're seeing the same disastrous moves made..."
That's history repeating itself (with slight variations) due to (a) humans being inadequately evolved in the evolutionary cycle (b) people not knowing human history (c) people not learning from human history (even if they know it).
Hence, it seems like we are doomed to be in "Groundhog Day" situations...
"...German Chancellor Olaf Scholz confirmed on October 9 that Germany will continue to supply Israel with weapons. “We have delivered arms and we will deliver arms,” Scholz stated at a special parliamentary session to commemorate the first anniversary of Hamas’s October 7 attack, adding that Berlin had made decisions “which also ensure that there will be further deliveries in the near future....”
But wait, I saw a stat recently that 69% of weapons exports to Israel this year were exported from the US, with 30% exported by Germany.
Ok, so we look at little closer at Rheinmetall, Germany's biggest weapons manufacturer, and:
Yes "supporting" mass murder in Israel are not merely "special responsibility" of Germany out of guilt ( surely not when Germany are also making money exporting weapons for to neonazis in Ukraine to carry an existentially dangerous war against Ukraine).
This mass murder is being fuelled by greed of the blindest and most stupid kind - like suicidally greedy.
Netanyahu is like a two year old child having a temper tantrum. He does not care about anything or anyone around him. He just wants to get his way which seems to be to have everything that is in front of him or beside him or anywhere near him if that is what he has decided he likes. He is an immature, silly man who, unfortunately, does not have the actual charm of a 2 year old.
BiBi is neither immature nor silly (sorry to disagree with you). He’s a deadly serious paranoid psychopath who has convinced himself and, with the help of people who are equally crazy or even worse, that the only way Jews will ever be safe is to kill all designated enemies whatever the cost. I’m not at all surprised the Hannibal directive was apparently given on 10/6 and he’s abandoned the hostages to their fate. He’s a 2 year old with a loaded gun and it’s held to the head of the US with the threat of nuclear war. And, my guess, lots of blackmail material compliments of Jeffery Epstein.
Fine with me if you disagree with me, but I do think that Netanyahu and several other of out revered "leaders" are immature. There are not a lot of things that I find more revolting than grown "men" who think that everything should be as they want it to be. or else.
I checked out the definition of maturity and one part is "fully developed powers of body and mind, adult". I don't think N has fully developed powers in his mind. More more more for me me me seems to be his approach to life. He is committing a genocide at least partly to avoid being prosecuted for his own crimes. That does not sound like a person with fully developed powers of anything.
If you belive that Netanyahu is not mature, than you are deceiving yourself. According to your "fully developed powers of body and mind", who decides what "fully developed powers are"? You? Me?
Netanyahu knows exactly what he is doing - he has fully developed powers (whatever that is) of body and mind. They are just DIFFERENT from you and me. That doesn't mean it signifies immaturity.
According to your logic, anyone that disagrees with your values can be called "immature". Satanyahu is a genocidal maniac, a psychopath, a sociopath, and many other things, but not immature. He has different goals, beliefs, values, objectives, and is the very personification of EVIL in all its forms - but not immature. Your calling Satanyahu "immature" is a way of resolving your own cognitive dissonance of HOW anyone can be so evil. Calling him "immature" resolves that cognitive dissonance for you.
He does not seem to have developed his powers of empathy. Also, there seems to be a logic deficit as there seems to be with most of our leaders these days. They do not seem to recognize that they make up a tiny part of life on this planet and when they destroy the rest of the planet, they will likely get themselves as well. I doubt that you know what resolves cognitive dissonance for me, especially from the conversations in these postings. You don't need to be a psychoanalyst for me or for anyone. You can do better than that.
He's aiming to become one of the "distinguished" Israeli leaders who presided over and led expansions. Maybe even become the most distinguished one depending on the eventual result.
So far it's looking good, nothing "two-year old" about him.
Thanks for reminding us to ask the question, looking good to whom? It’s not a bad idea to keep in mind who his audience actually is. That’s the audience we need to find a way to influence. Perhaps we should start naming that audience, then analysing what their interests are. I wonder if we might come up with some surprises.
Here’s mine:
World leaders - interests will vary by country. Might be good to look more closely at each of them. Unlikely to be unity.
Christian Zionists - interests include Armageddon! Likely to be very single minded.
Financial institutions - looking to increase profits. Hard to see how they can profit if there’s no brakes and WWIII happens. Armageddon will not be on their agenda.
Military industry - great until there’s no one left.
Commercial interests-they want to profit by selling stuff to as many people as they can. How are the benefiting by killing off such a large market for their goods? Why isn’t this contradiction coming to light?
Energy producers - would want the oil spigots to keep flowing. The places where this is happening is among the most important sources. Those in the ME will not survive if this continues apace. Do we believe they are willing to have their livelihoods destroyed without even attempting to push back?
General public - mostly brainwashed, but it’s wearing off, exposing the racist psychopaths among us. The longer the carnage goes on, the more the public wakes up. This brings up an additional possibility that the governments who are supporting the destruction are going to be at risk from their own citizens.
Might be, we can see some areas where increasing the existing contradictions exist.
"looking good to whom?" - look up history of Israel as described in textbooks, encyclopedias, etc. Look at the "heroes" listed there. They're all presented as noble advancers of the Jewish state. To whomever. To readers, future consumers of "history".
Netanyahu is looking to be added to that list, and maybe even stand out quite a bit. And it's looking good for him in that regard. Never mind the audience, he'll be in the list.
As an example, no one reasonable will deny that Hitler continues to be idolized by way too many, some openly, some covertly. His ideas and policies are being advanced readily in many places throughout the world. Who's that audience that eats it all up? You may start listing and categorizing it, but it's there, regenerating itself on a regular basis despite the supposed eradication of the ideology.
It's called human nature. Being realistic about it and taking practical steps to keep it in check is what, for example, proper organized religions have been trying to do. I said proper, not myriads of sects trying, and succeeding, to be subversive and derail the process skewing it in their favor. Human nature once again.
I differ with you in that BiBi is neither Jewish or gives a dam about Jews. The entire Terrorist State of Israel are Zionist Nazis with a small segment of actual Jews who are against him and the war and he treats them as do the Terrorist IDF very badly. I have videos where they are being beaten and spit on by the Terrorist IDF! They have been ordered to be put into the IDF against their agreements for even coming to Israel! The Zionist Nazis are using Jews as "Human Shields" basically a scapegoat! The reason I can say it is all of them but the few is because once again I have videos of the way they teach their children to believe that they are the chosen all others are sub-human and particularly in the case of the Palestinians they are to be treated as lesser than animals.
That comparison only stands in regard to the mindlessness of N. I think it would be better to find another comparison because 2 year olds, even when having a tantrum, still have something about them that is irresistible. There is nothing irresistible about about the disgusting N.
I think Nuttyahoo is more like a psychopath, devoid of any capacity for humanity, compassion or reason. However, he also represents and reflects most Israelis. The society, culture and State are all severely mentally ill.
Israel bombed tents outside a hospital. The video I just saw of men, women and children burning to death reminds me Israel and it's supporters are Terrorists. The U.N. must Expel Israel.
I saw it too Chuck. A little boy burning to death with no hope of anyone able to save him. This has gone beyond psychopathic.
Every single human being on earth needs to see this. And if one supports the continuation of such, then I curse them with a death more painful and horrific than that of this child.
Netanyahu mulls plan to empty northern Gaza of civilians and cut off aid to those left inside
¨Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is examining a plan to seal off humanitarian aid to northern Gaza in an attempt to starve out Hamas militants, a plan that, if implemented, could trap without food or water hundreds of thousands of Palestinians unwilling or unable to leave their homes.¨
Arresting/neutralizing Netanyahu probably will not ameliorate this situation. There are many in positions of power and authority in Israel that are WORSE than Satanyahu (yes, it can be difficult to imagine). The problems in Israeli society/culture run deep.
i would not object to people concerned giving it a try, though. the amelioration of the situation probably didn't play much part in the decision to murder nasrallah or ismail haniyeh. maybe bibi and his possible successors were somewhat projecting when they ok'd these strikes in thinking it would deter.
Terrorist states must be abolished. Yesterday I wrote to the heads of state and government: «You know that the situation will get worse, because those who want to control the world do not accept losing power and will use any means to keep it: monetary power, economic and financial power, political power, military power, power over information, power over everything are at stake. The neuralgic points are the Middle East, Ukraine and the former Warsaw Pact countries, Kashmir, Taiwan, Argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Somalia, Morocco, Congo, Nigeria, ... The national states and their international organizations that want to prevent a general explosion have the function and the means to prevent it. If not now, when?»
I have to admire Caitlin's fortitude in being able to write daily about these neverending horrific atrocities committed by greedy, deluded, cruel and stupid humans.
The US is run by extremely old white men (& a few random women) who should be in The Villages fighting their senile fights & not our government. None of them are mentally competent to function. As a "young" senior I'm telling you these people are antiquities!! I voted some of them into office when I was 18... & they're still here. Netenyahu and the Knesset are also old "white" men (European/Eastern European) insisting their hallucinations are true and intent on causing WW3. The foisting of European jews into Palestine 75+ years ago was obscenely stupid and unfortunately deadly. This experiment in terror must end. The US is equally as toxic and deserves to be held accountable for countless war crimes. I believe that the global community is finally starting to work toward those ends... Perhaps too slowly 😢
"So in order for Israel to kill its way into peace, it needs to not just kill off the Palestinians but kill everyone in the surrounding region who would oppose its doing so."
I think they agree with you and are busy implementing that plan.
So the fundamental cultural trait the human species needs to evolve to move on from here is: how to resist gangsters without becoming gangsters? How can a decentralised sociable egalitarian network successfully co-operate to resist a large scale militaristic hierarchy?
Change SYSTEMS (that's what cybernetics is all about - designing better systems and timely feedback loops so that systems can continuously be evolved based on different inputs). Hence, change CAPITALISM into something better (using combinations from the best of capitalism, socialism communism, and other isms and variations).
But before deciding what SYSTEM should replace the existing one (neoliberal capitalism), experimentation and observation of such small experiments need to be performed in various countries and socio-economic conditions, and then the results need to be analyzed and systematically studied - so that we don't replace Capitalism with something equally bad (or worse).
The big lie is israel was created because of the Holocaust. israel collaborated with the nazis ex. transfer agreement. israel collaborated with otto skorzeny. israel collaborated with south africa when the rest of the world was turning on them. There is nothing enlightened or progressive about israel. Eichmann's arrest was propaganda, nothing less and nothing more.
From the very onset of Zionist colonialism in Palestine, enormous efforts were undertaken to control the telling of the story. A new grand narrative was created, one which lionized the settlers and demonized the Palestinian natives -that is, if the Palestinians were even acknowledged. Like all foundational mythologies, it was half-baked, contradictory, and twisted the truth to the point of breaking it many times over. Consequently, many misunderstandings surrounding the establishment of Israel are common to this day.
For instance, the myth that the United Nations created Israel is frustratingly widespread. So too is the belief that Israel was established by the world community because of -or even as penance for- the Holocaust. This imbues the creation of Israel with an air of legitimacy, of righting wrongs, and learning from the past. This, of course, is nonsense.
Zionism and Palestine
Nearly 80 years before the Holocaust, a group which came to be known as the “Bilu pioneers” came to settle in Palestine. It was comprised of primarily Russian Jewish settlers who viewed their mission in Palestine as a pioneering one towards “the physical upbuilding of the land as contributing toward both a revitalization of the Jewish nation and the reemergence of Jewish masculinity and virility”. While this group predated Zionism as a political movement as we understand it today, it would not be unreasonable to call it proto-Zionist.
Unsurprisingly, and like all colonialist movements at the time, they had the same condescending and racist attitude towards the Palestinians living there. In a rare moment of reflection, one of the group leaders, Chaim Chissin, wrote the following entry in his diary, after failing to grow any crops:
“Whenever the Arabs told us that it was already too late to sow barley, or that the land was unsuited for it, we never hesitated to tell the ‘barbarians,’ with considerable self assurance, ‘Oh, that doesn’t matter. We’ll plow deep, we’ll turn the soil inside out, we’ll harrow it clean, and then you’ll see what a crop we’ll have!’ We provided ourselves with big plows, sunk them deep into the soil, and cruelly whipped our horses which were cruelly exhausted. Our self-confidence had no limits. We looked down on the Arabs, assuming that it was not they who should teach us, but we who would show these barbarians’ what a European could accomplish on this neglected land with the use of perfect tools and rational methods of cultivation. The only trouble was that we ourselves knew about European methods of cultivation only from hearsay, and our agriculturalist, too, knew very little [about conditions in Palestine].”
The Bilu pioneers would be followed by other groups, such as the Hibbat Zion. Some would fail and leave, others would remain. However, the shift in the quality and organization of Zionist colonialism would begin in 1897. Convened in the Swiss city of Basel, the first Zionist congress included over 200 delegates from all over Europe. The program of the congress called for establishing a Jewish state in Palestine, and to begin coordinating the settlement of Zionists there. The Zionist congress distinguished itself from previous attempts at settling Palestine by being the first to organize and marshal colonization efforts in a centralized and effective manner.
All of these efforts to colonize Palestine began nearly a century before the Holocaust, and was already picking up steam after the first world war. By the end of the 1800s, Theodor Herzl -the founder of political Zionism- was sending out letters to imperialist powers all over the globe in an attempt to elicit their aid in colonizing Palestine. Perhaps the most infamous is his letter to Cecil Rhodes, arguing that Britain recognized the importance of “colonial expansion”:
“You are being invited to help make history,” he wrote, “It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor; not Englishmen, but Jews. How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.”
Israel doesn’t want peace, it wants its God-given land - from the river to the sea. And to be clear, the river they’re referring to is not the Jordan, it’s the Euphrates. Just imagine how many more “today’s” there are still to come.
If they blow up the energy infrastructure of the Middle East, they'll be fighting their following wars with bronze spears. The Empire is driving itself into a dead end, and they have no brakes.
The real question is, are they going to take the Rest of the World with them? We could be looking at a transition from, "Now look what you've gone and made me do, bitch," to, "If I can't have her, no-one will!"
The gas production of Israel should be destroyed. We have a precedent, the US destroyed the Nordstrom pipelines.
That'll cut Israel's income stream and cheap energy source.
Maybe the Houtis should be given the necessary equipment....
Izrahell's best bitch would never do that.
While the majority of the world's population would probably agree that this would be fair karma, unfortunately it wouldn't end there, would it? The Empire could get away with blowing up Nordstream because Germany is a vassal who would not respond in kind. But if Iran took out one of Israel's pipelines, then Israel would take two of Iran's, and before you knew it, all the pipelines, all the wells, all the refineries would be burning, the Gulf and the Suez would be shut down. Boom, half the world's energy supply out for the count.
Now, this would certainly take down the Empire, yes. But, even if we disregard nukes here, you're also talking about a lot of other things going down, like say half the world's food supply.
The oligarchs can certainly afford food at ten times the price, and you might be able to afford food at ten times the price, but the poorest half of the world's population cannot. The least deserving would be the worst punished, as usual.
There is a difference between tactics and strategy.
Karma is a comforting myth, The Hindus had to invent reincarnation because there is no justice in this world.
Feral, well…cats do have nine lives!
It would depend on US support for an all out attack on Iran. However, if the Houtis were used as a proxy, then the US could hardly attack Iran.
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Sure they could if they wanted to.
Iraq had jack-all to do with 9/11, but that didn't stop the United States and its loyal catamites.
They are all in on everything the Terrorist State of Israel does! The Zionist Nazi politicians from the US are all the same as the creatures in The Terrorist State of Israel. They already gave the go ahead and attack Iran to those Zionist Nazis!
This assumes that anyone can do so and is willing to deal with the consequences.
The Axis of Resistance is weak and indecisive. Its enemies are neither.
as you know it is extremely difficult to find out who blew up a pipeline. :-) all it takes is a small yacht, 5 divers and some easy to find explosives on the black market. anyone could've done it.
Funny how that works when nobody wants to ask questions that they know that they won't like the answers to.
As they say, be careful with investigation lest you end up with yourself as a culprit.
wherever you are in europe how many around you think in these same terms? not the media for sure. what do they say about your media then?
as in the us, we are few and scattered, and subjected to 'do you condemn hamas/putin (stalin/hitler)?'-style bullying into a 'pledge of allegiance to the oligarchy'. larger groupings or organisations (mostly to the conservative right) are hunted down with 'the six ways to sunday' methods.
most media is absolute oligarchial crap. one checks the headlines to find out what is important to lie about or especially what must be omitted. i'm personally on a diet of some telegram-channels (rt, sputnik, tass, some others, ...), grayzone, mint-press, consortium news, ...
I don’t think they are either weak or indecisive. They just aren’t psychopathic killers that want millions of citizens in the Middle East to die. We know Israel will bomb the most heavily populated areas, hospitals, schools, etc. These countries don’t want war, but they are given no choice, because it’s obvious they are next on the list. It’s a really shitty position that Iran, and Lebanon are in, because they know entering into war with Israel is also entering into war with the US and millions of their citizens may be killed, along with their infrastructure. When the psychopaths attack Iran in the next few days, we will see what the truth is….
It certainly seems so. Do they feel that they are entitled to that as well?
It seems part of the warped psychology of a sociopath to feel entitled to whatever they can get away with.
We've all been confronted in our personal lives by some arsehole presenting us with a bad-or-worse option: "Either let me get my way or everybody loses." It's just scary to see it happening on a planetary scale.
Thanks for making clear which river it is their claim includes. I’ve watched the underplaying of just how far their reach goes, when it was convenient.
What God is this that commands people to persecute the next man and commit mass murder ? God's name being abused like crazy here....
"God-given land" Hah!
"Israel never succeeds in killing its way to peace, because that’s not actually a thing."
And neither is screwing to regain your virginity--but somebody out there is probably attempting just such a thing at this very moment somewhere on this planet!
Do you ever feel like you're caught in a time loop where we're seeing the same disastrous moves made by our corrupt Western governments over and over again? That's what Izrealhell's actions remind me of. Settler-colonialism hijacked from previous centuries along with members of the Third Reich and a smattering of PT Barnum's hucksterism thrown in for good measure. This endless bloodshed to bring about "peace" (which isn't actually peace but conquest) in the West of Asia/Middle East has to end for the sake of all our lives and our planet's. Somebody, please stop the time loop NOW and #FreePalestine #FreeLebanon
>>"Do you ever feel like you're caught in a time loop where we're seeing the same disastrous moves made..."
That's history repeating itself (with slight variations) due to (a) humans being inadequately evolved in the evolutionary cycle (b) people not knowing human history (c) people not learning from human history (even if they know it).
Hence, it seems like we are doomed to be in "Groundhog Day" situations...
Well it's disastrous socially, but the more you dig it's the same old song: "Money, money, money - MONEY."
Look at Germany for example and their "special responsibility"
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/10/11/germany-to-send-more-weapons-to-israel/
"...German Chancellor Olaf Scholz confirmed on October 9 that Germany will continue to supply Israel with weapons. “We have delivered arms and we will deliver arms,” Scholz stated at a special parliamentary session to commemorate the first anniversary of Hamas’s October 7 attack, adding that Berlin had made decisions “which also ensure that there will be further deliveries in the near future....”
But wait, I saw a stat recently that 69% of weapons exports to Israel this year were exported from the US, with 30% exported by Germany.
Ok, so we look at little closer at Rheinmetall, Germany's biggest weapons manufacturer, and:
https://defence-industry.eu/rheinmetall-reports-robust-growth-in-first-half-of-2024-sales-surge-33-amid-strong-defence-demand/
Yes "supporting" mass murder in Israel are not merely "special responsibility" of Germany out of guilt ( surely not when Germany are also making money exporting weapons for to neonazis in Ukraine to carry an existentially dangerous war against Ukraine).
This mass murder is being fuelled by greed of the blindest and most stupid kind - like suicidally greedy.
Short answer, TRC: HELL YES!
Netanyahu is like a two year old child having a temper tantrum. He does not care about anything or anyone around him. He just wants to get his way which seems to be to have everything that is in front of him or beside him or anywhere near him if that is what he has decided he likes. He is an immature, silly man who, unfortunately, does not have the actual charm of a 2 year old.
BiBi is neither immature nor silly (sorry to disagree with you). He’s a deadly serious paranoid psychopath who has convinced himself and, with the help of people who are equally crazy or even worse, that the only way Jews will ever be safe is to kill all designated enemies whatever the cost. I’m not at all surprised the Hannibal directive was apparently given on 10/6 and he’s abandoned the hostages to their fate. He’s a 2 year old with a loaded gun and it’s held to the head of the US with the threat of nuclear war. And, my guess, lots of blackmail material compliments of Jeffery Epstein.
Fine with me if you disagree with me, but I do think that Netanyahu and several other of out revered "leaders" are immature. There are not a lot of things that I find more revolting than grown "men" who think that everything should be as they want it to be. or else.
and there are a few grown "women" who consider themselves quite with it but who just want to get what they want. I am sooooo sick of those people.
I love real 2 year olds. But once they are older, I really like that they have learned a few things about life and what it really means.
>>"I do think that Netanyahu and several other of out revered "leaders" are immature."
It's not immaturity, it's different values.
I checked out the definition of maturity and one part is "fully developed powers of body and mind, adult". I don't think N has fully developed powers in his mind. More more more for me me me seems to be his approach to life. He is committing a genocide at least partly to avoid being prosecuted for his own crimes. That does not sound like a person with fully developed powers of anything.
If you belive that Netanyahu is not mature, than you are deceiving yourself. According to your "fully developed powers of body and mind", who decides what "fully developed powers are"? You? Me?
Netanyahu knows exactly what he is doing - he has fully developed powers (whatever that is) of body and mind. They are just DIFFERENT from you and me. That doesn't mean it signifies immaturity.
According to your logic, anyone that disagrees with your values can be called "immature". Satanyahu is a genocidal maniac, a psychopath, a sociopath, and many other things, but not immature. He has different goals, beliefs, values, objectives, and is the very personification of EVIL in all its forms - but not immature. Your calling Satanyahu "immature" is a way of resolving your own cognitive dissonance of HOW anyone can be so evil. Calling him "immature" resolves that cognitive dissonance for you.
He does not seem to have developed his powers of empathy. Also, there seems to be a logic deficit as there seems to be with most of our leaders these days. They do not seem to recognize that they make up a tiny part of life on this planet and when they destroy the rest of the planet, they will likely get themselves as well. I doubt that you know what resolves cognitive dissonance for me, especially from the conversations in these postings. You don't need to be a psychoanalyst for me or for anyone. You can do better than that.
Hi Susan, I tend to agree that Netenyahu is immature, he certainly is not looking at his situation with any finesse.
One year ago he had a good part of the world on his side.
Now, to his bunggeling, the plans of Greater Israel are exposed to all of us.
As long as he has his American thug, that thug will make sure that nobody dares do anything concrete.
He's aiming to become one of the "distinguished" Israeli leaders who presided over and led expansions. Maybe even become the most distinguished one depending on the eventual result.
So far it's looking good, nothing "two-year old" about him.
Thanks for reminding us to ask the question, looking good to whom? It’s not a bad idea to keep in mind who his audience actually is. That’s the audience we need to find a way to influence. Perhaps we should start naming that audience, then analysing what their interests are. I wonder if we might come up with some surprises.
Here’s mine:
World leaders - interests will vary by country. Might be good to look more closely at each of them. Unlikely to be unity.
Christian Zionists - interests include Armageddon! Likely to be very single minded.
Financial institutions - looking to increase profits. Hard to see how they can profit if there’s no brakes and WWIII happens. Armageddon will not be on their agenda.
Military industry - great until there’s no one left.
Commercial interests-they want to profit by selling stuff to as many people as they can. How are the benefiting by killing off such a large market for their goods? Why isn’t this contradiction coming to light?
Energy producers - would want the oil spigots to keep flowing. The places where this is happening is among the most important sources. Those in the ME will not survive if this continues apace. Do we believe they are willing to have their livelihoods destroyed without even attempting to push back?
General public - mostly brainwashed, but it’s wearing off, exposing the racist psychopaths among us. The longer the carnage goes on, the more the public wakes up. This brings up an additional possibility that the governments who are supporting the destruction are going to be at risk from their own citizens.
Might be, we can see some areas where increasing the existing contradictions exist.
I appreciate your bringing up this idea.
"looking good to whom?" - look up history of Israel as described in textbooks, encyclopedias, etc. Look at the "heroes" listed there. They're all presented as noble advancers of the Jewish state. To whomever. To readers, future consumers of "history".
Netanyahu is looking to be added to that list, and maybe even stand out quite a bit. And it's looking good for him in that regard. Never mind the audience, he'll be in the list.
As an example, no one reasonable will deny that Hitler continues to be idolized by way too many, some openly, some covertly. His ideas and policies are being advanced readily in many places throughout the world. Who's that audience that eats it all up? You may start listing and categorizing it, but it's there, regenerating itself on a regular basis despite the supposed eradication of the ideology.
It's called human nature. Being realistic about it and taking practical steps to keep it in check is what, for example, proper organized religions have been trying to do. I said proper, not myriads of sects trying, and succeeding, to be subversive and derail the process skewing it in their favor. Human nature once again.
I differ with you in that BiBi is neither Jewish or gives a dam about Jews. The entire Terrorist State of Israel are Zionist Nazis with a small segment of actual Jews who are against him and the war and he treats them as do the Terrorist IDF very badly. I have videos where they are being beaten and spit on by the Terrorist IDF! They have been ordered to be put into the IDF against their agreements for even coming to Israel! The Zionist Nazis are using Jews as "Human Shields" basically a scapegoat! The reason I can say it is all of them but the few is because once again I have videos of the way they teach their children to believe that they are the chosen all others are sub-human and particularly in the case of the Palestinians they are to be treated as lesser than animals.
Susan T, You are being too kind. Comparing the horrible and vile N to a two year old child having a temper tantrum, is far way too generous.
That comparison only stands in regard to the mindlessness of N. I think it would be better to find another comparison because 2 year olds, even when having a tantrum, still have something about them that is irresistible. There is nothing irresistible about about the disgusting N.
I think Nuttyahoo is more like a psychopath, devoid of any capacity for humanity, compassion or reason. However, he also represents and reflects most Israelis. The society, culture and State are all severely mentally ill.
Netanyahu has only the stinky diaper of a two year old.
No, he is a psychopath.
No feelings for anyone or anything, as long as he gets what he wants.
He is a dangerous man, who seems to want to destroy the world rather than have a peaceful agreement.
He's an evil demon.
Israel bombed tents outside a hospital. The video I just saw of men, women and children burning to death reminds me Israel and it's supporters are Terrorists. The U.N. must Expel Israel.
I saw it too Chuck. A little boy burning to death with no hope of anyone able to save him. This has gone beyond psychopathic.
Every single human being on earth needs to see this. And if one supports the continuation of such, then I curse them with a death more painful and horrific than that of this child.
May he rest in power.
Please somebody, arrest or neutralize Netanyahu!
Netanyahu mulls plan to empty northern Gaza of civilians and cut off aid to those left inside
¨Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is examining a plan to seal off humanitarian aid to northern Gaza in an attempt to starve out Hamas militants, a plan that, if implemented, could trap without food or water hundreds of thousands of Palestinians unwilling or unable to leave their homes.¨
https://apnews.com/article/hamas-israel-generals-plan-eiland-gaza-219d7eb9a3050e281ccc032d5a56263c
Arresting/neutralizing Netanyahu probably will not ameliorate this situation. There are many in positions of power and authority in Israel that are WORSE than Satanyahu (yes, it can be difficult to imagine). The problems in Israeli society/culture run deep.
You are correct. We need to get rid of them ALL.
i would not object to people concerned giving it a try, though. the amelioration of the situation probably didn't play much part in the decision to murder nasrallah or ismail haniyeh. maybe bibi and his possible successors were somewhat projecting when they ok'd these strikes in thinking it would deter.
i understand that the mulling and examining stage are done and that it is being executed since october 1st.
Terrorist states must be abolished. Yesterday I wrote to the heads of state and government: «You know that the situation will get worse, because those who want to control the world do not accept losing power and will use any means to keep it: monetary power, economic and financial power, political power, military power, power over information, power over everything are at stake. The neuralgic points are the Middle East, Ukraine and the former Warsaw Pact countries, Kashmir, Taiwan, Argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Somalia, Morocco, Congo, Nigeria, ... The national states and their international organizations that want to prevent a general explosion have the function and the means to prevent it. If not now, when?»
BRICS will sort it out
I heard that Saidi Arabia is interested in joining.
The new countries that have asked to join BRICS are 73.
Some will only be observing at the Conference and will make their minds up after.
Jenny, Palestine has applied to join BRICS.
Mr. Putin appears to be favorable.
Hi Gypsy. It's not up to Putin. Very complex at the moment BUT I am loving watching all this.
Austria has applied to observe!
I have to admire Caitlin's fortitude in being able to write daily about these neverending horrific atrocities committed by greedy, deluded, cruel and stupid humans.
“We have never wanted peace in Eurasia”.
"We have always been at war with Oceania..."
Which is why we need a contemporary war on Amerikkkan soil.
It may change some minds about supporting forever wars. Let’s start with a nuke on DC.
The US is run by extremely old white men (& a few random women) who should be in The Villages fighting their senile fights & not our government. None of them are mentally competent to function. As a "young" senior I'm telling you these people are antiquities!! I voted some of them into office when I was 18... & they're still here. Netenyahu and the Knesset are also old "white" men (European/Eastern European) insisting their hallucinations are true and intent on causing WW3. The foisting of European jews into Palestine 75+ years ago was obscenely stupid and unfortunately deadly. This experiment in terror must end. The US is equally as toxic and deserves to be held accountable for countless war crimes. I believe that the global community is finally starting to work toward those ends... Perhaps too slowly 😢
"So in order for Israel to kill its way into peace, it needs to not just kill off the Palestinians but kill everyone in the surrounding region who would oppose its doing so."
I think they agree with you and are busy implementing that plan.
It would appear so.
The apartheid state doesn't want peace, it wants pieces.
Pieces of others lands.
Pieces of scattered bodies.
Pieces of Uncle Scam's arsenal.
A duplicitous, rabid demon that threatens us all. It needs neutered.
You forgot money. Lots of money.
Mark, it needs to be shot. I volunteer.
One must ask who benefits from such structural violence? Certainly not average Israelis or Jewish people.
Everything, everywhere to the benefit of oligarchs. Welcome to the Corporate Neofeudal Era.
Divide and conquer...divide and conquer...divide and conquer--then REPEAT.
So the fundamental cultural trait the human species needs to evolve to move on from here is: how to resist gangsters without becoming gangsters? How can a decentralised sociable egalitarian network successfully co-operate to resist a large scale militaristic hierarchy?
Change SYSTEMS (that's what cybernetics is all about - designing better systems and timely feedback loops so that systems can continuously be evolved based on different inputs). Hence, change CAPITALISM into something better (using combinations from the best of capitalism, socialism communism, and other isms and variations).
But before deciding what SYSTEM should replace the existing one (neoliberal capitalism), experimentation and observation of such small experiments need to be performed in various countries and socio-economic conditions, and then the results need to be analyzed and systematically studied - so that we don't replace Capitalism with something equally bad (or worse).
i once read that is more or less how chinese democracy works.
Caitlin, 3 articles in an hour? Was that your intention or did the Substack scheduler screw up? Not that I'm complaining...
Nah I've just had a very busy morning with a lot to say.
She's working overtime. Busy shift on planet Earth.
Events are happening faster than anyone can keep up with.
You're telling me. My package of Halloween candy arrived one day earlier than expected. And I've already eaten a few bars. Old age I guess.
The big lie is israel was created because of the Holocaust. israel collaborated with the nazis ex. transfer agreement. israel collaborated with otto skorzeny. israel collaborated with south africa when the rest of the world was turning on them. There is nothing enlightened or progressive about israel. Eichmann's arrest was propaganda, nothing less and nothing more.
From the very onset of Zionist colonialism in Palestine, enormous efforts were undertaken to control the telling of the story. A new grand narrative was created, one which lionized the settlers and demonized the Palestinian natives -that is, if the Palestinians were even acknowledged. Like all foundational mythologies, it was half-baked, contradictory, and twisted the truth to the point of breaking it many times over. Consequently, many misunderstandings surrounding the establishment of Israel are common to this day.
For instance, the myth that the United Nations created Israel is frustratingly widespread. So too is the belief that Israel was established by the world community because of -or even as penance for- the Holocaust. This imbues the creation of Israel with an air of legitimacy, of righting wrongs, and learning from the past. This, of course, is nonsense.
Zionism and Palestine
Nearly 80 years before the Holocaust, a group which came to be known as the “Bilu pioneers” came to settle in Palestine. It was comprised of primarily Russian Jewish settlers who viewed their mission in Palestine as a pioneering one towards “the physical upbuilding of the land as contributing toward both a revitalization of the Jewish nation and the reemergence of Jewish masculinity and virility”. While this group predated Zionism as a political movement as we understand it today, it would not be unreasonable to call it proto-Zionist.
Unsurprisingly, and like all colonialist movements at the time, they had the same condescending and racist attitude towards the Palestinians living there. In a rare moment of reflection, one of the group leaders, Chaim Chissin, wrote the following entry in his diary, after failing to grow any crops:
“Whenever the Arabs told us that it was already too late to sow barley, or that the land was unsuited for it, we never hesitated to tell the ‘barbarians,’ with considerable self assurance, ‘Oh, that doesn’t matter. We’ll plow deep, we’ll turn the soil inside out, we’ll harrow it clean, and then you’ll see what a crop we’ll have!’ We provided ourselves with big plows, sunk them deep into the soil, and cruelly whipped our horses which were cruelly exhausted. Our self-confidence had no limits. We looked down on the Arabs, assuming that it was not they who should teach us, but we who would show these barbarians’ what a European could accomplish on this neglected land with the use of perfect tools and rational methods of cultivation. The only trouble was that we ourselves knew about European methods of cultivation only from hearsay, and our agriculturalist, too, knew very little [about conditions in Palestine].”
The Bilu pioneers would be followed by other groups, such as the Hibbat Zion. Some would fail and leave, others would remain. However, the shift in the quality and organization of Zionist colonialism would begin in 1897. Convened in the Swiss city of Basel, the first Zionist congress included over 200 delegates from all over Europe. The program of the congress called for establishing a Jewish state in Palestine, and to begin coordinating the settlement of Zionists there. The Zionist congress distinguished itself from previous attempts at settling Palestine by being the first to organize and marshal colonization efforts in a centralized and effective manner.
All of these efforts to colonize Palestine began nearly a century before the Holocaust, and was already picking up steam after the first world war. By the end of the 1800s, Theodor Herzl -the founder of political Zionism- was sending out letters to imperialist powers all over the globe in an attempt to elicit their aid in colonizing Palestine. Perhaps the most infamous is his letter to Cecil Rhodes, arguing that Britain recognized the importance of “colonial expansion”:
“You are being invited to help make history,” he wrote, “It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor; not Englishmen, but Jews. How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.”
https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/israel-penance-for-holocaust/
Izzreel today bombed and burned alive women and children in refugee tents. Cxl it (had to change words so post would not disappear.
The only solution is for the US to designate a chunk of land in the US, clear out all the Americans, and stuff the jews there.
But this piece of land would eventually get too small for them.
Isn’t that what Long Island is? Kidding, I’m just kidding.
Nah, CF.
Noo Yawk City. Not kidding.
We don’t need any more Zionists in the U.S.
Dismantle Zionist Israel once and for all would do it.
Richard Parker, A good final solution!