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Jill Stein for POTUS 2024.

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Vote people, planet and peace! jillstein2024.com

Even if you don't think voting is worth the effort, consider this: Every non-duopoly vote makes a statement to the duopoly that you know how corrupt the system is and that you enjoy watching them sweat. Let's make them sweat so much they turn into a puddle of water on the floor and then we can mop them up and flush them down the toilet. I know I can't wait to see these genocide-enablers flushed down the drain. Let's do it!

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I made 100 of these Jill Stein MD , President 2016 t-shirts in 2016 and gave them away. I never stopped wearing them on my bike commutes and rides.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79f66931-2b40-43ff-b31e-cdf750ce7b7b_4032x2268.jpeg

Jill asked for a small, but she's full of energy, or was 8 years ago.

She's got my vote again

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Sigh!

The "duopoly" doesn't give a rat's ass about our "statements."

When the shit hits the fan, they will scurry away into their hidey holes like the cockroaches they are and wait until everyone forgets about them at which time they will return.

This shit has been going on for thousands of years. Over and over and over and over and over...

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I agree BUT it's been going on for years BUT the same could be said before the French Revolution happened. When people get tired of being humiliated/lied to and find their county is slowly being dismantled/when there is not enough food/no housing and the poor are continuously forced off the streets perhaps the people hopefully realise our country is shit.

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We know the duopoly sucks, so why continue the status quo?

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While I tend to agree with you, I do think, MAYBE, that if the numbers grow large enough, they will listen. If you don't believe that, what hope is there?

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well, one can show that one doesn't give a rat's ass about them not giving a rat's ass ...

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The key is to make sure the roaches are not forgotten over time. Make sure they are taught about and talked about in each new generation. Thats the only way to keep them away. Otherwise, you’re right, roaches never die.

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"But she can't win!" say the defeatists and sheep.

"Better to win the booby prize (Trump/Harris),

it is a sure thing!" (snark)

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Massie/Greene 2024

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Jill Stein rejects the Liberal Social Right to Freedom of Association (from the state)

She will require all citizens to associate with The State

Of course once one rejects Freedom of Association, one implicitly endorses Mandated Associations which will come primarily from that same State she required people to associate with.

State-Mandated association leads to State-Mandated genocide

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Again, libertarianism is such a childish (id, ego) ideology. Of course we are all associated with the rest of society which means, in our current format, being associated with the state. Libertarians use roads, breath air, and eat like everyone else. Without the state (society working together) none of that would be possible. Interesting that while libertarians talk about the intrusiveness and oppression of the state, I’ve not heard them complain about the same in regard to corporations and oligarchs who are currently, to society’s detriment, controlling the state.

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There is libertarianism and then there is anarchy. Many calling themselves the former are actually preaching the latter.

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anarchy means no rule /government

My view only rejects state "government" but not government

All states are COERCIVE monopoly entities

No institution based upon COERCION can be a valid government

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anarchy means no rulers. It doesn't mean no rules.

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i fail to grasp why I have to associate with anyone I do not want to

Even if you think I must to survive HARLDY gives you the power to make that decision for me as to how I choose to run my life

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Again, you refuse to recognize freedom of association!!

You have decided what other people can do and will no doubt ask the state to make me do so accordingly .

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Stop babbling. The Dems and the GOP are putting people in prison for talking the truth, while you are spewing your clouds of noise.

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What???

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Don't waste your time engaging with him Gregor. I've tried unsuccessfully to understand what on Earth Howard is burbling on about. He does love his acronyms and Random capital letters 😹

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LOL

DOn;'t waste you time talking to people who do not agree that the state can and should coerce people into associating with others ?

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she will require all citizens to associate with the state.

One cannot do that and support Freedom of Association at the same time

That would be like forcing citizens to associate with Intel

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Hey Howard - I'm down with your diarrhea of the mouth but one thing really annoys me.

Namely - can you go easy on that Enter/Return key? It might look good when you type but when displayed here it just introduces blank lines letting in the draft producing the shit hit the fan effect.

As I said it I realized it might have been your intent all along. Sneaky Howie 😳

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"Hey Howard - I'm down with your diarrhea "

What an intellectual statement!!!!!

Your redneck

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"What an intellectual statement!!!!!" - the one you understood!

Now I have to figure out how to make you understand the enter/return key problem. Let's try this: enter - return, enter - return, enter - return; what does it sound like Howie? Something you do? Or done to you?

If you get it - can you do it in private and not here in public? Get it, Howie 😉🤣🤡

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Oh my god.

Whatever.

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LOU.......whatever............converse in saying "whatever." Are you from California...whatever land!

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Thank you so much for your articles. I would like to post this here if I may: The Palestinian mother murdered along with her 4 day old twins and their grandmother was Dr Jumann Afra. Say her name.

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To quote the great Mouin Rabbani, choosing between Trump or Kamala (or any R and D candidate) is like choosing between lung cancer and brain cancer. Vote for your choice of cancer. And then get it. American democracy needs chemo.

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What democracy? The 2014 Princeton Study shows that the US is an oligarchy.

Why force yourself to choose between lung or brain cancer? Vote outside the duopoly. Vote jillstein2024.com and make those duopolists of the blue/red variety sweat bullets.

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Aug 15·edited Aug 15

"choosing between Trump or Kamala (or any R and D candidate) is like choosing between lung cancer and brain cancer"... that's a pretty accurate diagnostic doc. Jill Stein would make a pretty good anti-cancer dug... but the odds of her becoming president are about the same as those of a cat swimming across the Pacific.

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Consider voting for Dr. Jill Stein as the first leg of a relay. The first cat won’t cross the finish line. Should the first cat not start?

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This talk of swimming cats is very triggering.

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I really do not understand what you are saying here Feral.

IF you knew about CATS you would know that in Sri Lanka there are cats that swim if they haven't been decimated!

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Since there is no difference whatsoever in the likely outcome, why not vote for that swimming cat?

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Will you please stop talking about cats having to swim?

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lol

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Obviously you didn't get my first comment.

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Betting odds change when enough voters value change over odds.

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Building Third Party momentum is key. There are also practical implications. If she gets 5% of the vote she/the Greens will get Federal Matching Funds and much easier ballot access in many states in 2028. It’s the long game but the only way to change this rotten system.

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The US likely may not exist in the current form and shape by 2028, but it is worth a try. Stein is good and Cornel West is good too. Whatever it is never vote D or R or RFK Jr. Same garbage.

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💯🎯

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I hate water.

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Well Feral you might hate water but when 'push comes to shove' you will be drinking from a puddle.

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I would NEVER vote for a person simply because they are considered as possible winners

That's a prime example why mostly D's and R's do win their duopoly

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I agree... which is one of the reasons why candidates I have voted for during my life seldom win...

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Feral could do it.

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No. And I hate water.

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"No. And I hate water.".... Even after 5 days in the middle of the Sahara ? ????????

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I might drink it, but I surely won't bath in it. Cats have a remarkably low thirst drive.

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That's why I chose cats as the actors most likely to fail crossing the Pacific...

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Jill Stein will be on the Presidential ballot in most states. She is a genuine peace candidate. Let’s break the stranglehold of the war mongering duopoly. Vote Stein in November!

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even if Jill Stein wins, which she won't, but if she did, the bureaucracy, the entrenched special interests, the three letter agencies, the MIC, the bought and paid for politicians, which is pretty much all of them, would crush her like a bug. She would upset the trough feeding, the power and wealth that comes if you're in the special club. The fight is between the communist globo homo NWO oligarchs and the other communist globo homo NWO oligarchs. Everyone else is a peasant, destined to be a serf.

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wilson, What do you mean by "..... the communist globe homo NWO oligarchs .... ?

russian_bot where are you?

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I remember "wilson" - hopeless, waste of time.

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gates, soros, schwab, zuckerberg, the tech bros excepting musk are examples.

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I don't think you have a clue about what Communism is.

The examples you mention (each and every one of them) are neoliberal Capitalists of the worst kind. They are billionaires. Being a billionaire and being a communist are contradictory - but then you would know that if you understood what communism is.

Time to hit the books instead of listening to far-right rhetoric (whether coming from Independent or MSM sources).

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All of them support the left, progressives, socialists which are just euphemisms for communism. They do this because under a communist system they will own the government. More so than they do now. There isn't any capitalism anymore. As proven by the Yale study some years ago, the U.S. is an oligarchy. The oligarchs think the best chance of staying wealthy and acquiring more wealth and power is to support communists. Which is why, with the possible exception of Musk, they all are.

of course I understand communism. I understand it has never worked and will never work. All communism brings is misery, starvation, rationing, gulags and mass murder for the large majority of any given population. And just like capitalism there is a tiny wealthy and powerful class. The difference is under capitalism there is a middle class and the living standard is much higher for everyone than in any communist country that ever existed. Under communism there are two classes the wealthy inner party and the peasants.

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>>"All of them support the left, progressives, socialists which are just euphemisms for communism."

Like I said before, I don't think you understand "left, progressives, socialism, communism or even capitalism" - your statement proves it beyond a shadow of any doubt.

Here are some links on getting you started on your journey of understanding some of these concepts:

(1) The Only Leftist Reading List You'll Ever Need (lol) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdwD7zwEpZw)

(2) Books You Need to Read to Understand Marxism (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWGhnEcMZA0)

(3) Leftist Reading Recommendations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTQasSQ2a6Q)

(4) Marxist Reading List for Beginners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Wt8eUbeOQ)

To be able to talk about the "Left" or "Socialism", etc. you need to understand what they are (as a first step). You won't get that information from "ANY" MSM media sources (regardless of what team they are on), and you will be hard-pressed to find such information from Independent media sources too.

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Russia and China seem to be doing quite well under Liberal Communism.

One thing Americans cannot understand (because of continual brainwashing) is there are different types of communism and socialism.

I live here in France: For the moment we have Liberal Socialism which means we have free healthcare/schools/elderly peoples homes in each small town.

One of the reasons that FACISM won't work here in France is because the minute our healthcare starts crumbling (which it is now) we will have a revolution.

USA has nothing to revolt against!

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Sure they are all communists while reaping wealth in a Capitalist system. Makes total sense, very clarifying.

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commie bernie has done all right. So did castro who died with a net worth of 400 million USD. All of the commie dictators were like that every single one.

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NO. Your idea of communism sucks............read something worthwhile

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heh heh. I really shouldn't speak to a true believer communist. It is both futile and pointless. To respond to your post, I have read many books and had some indirect experience with communist countries. One such book that as you say..........read something worthwhile is Life and Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng. Nien Cheng was declared an enemy of the state by the red guards in China when she refused to confess her crime. The crime of being an enemy of the state. She spent more than six years in solitary confinement.

I could relate some small personal stories but it would be a pointless exercise.

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It would help if progressives would just lose the damn defeatist attitude. Like I said before, not only we need as an Independent at every level.

Now you can resign yourself to becoming a serf, but don't expect everyone else to do the same.

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'which she won't', the rest is obsolete. it's only a count of how many are aware about the rest. also, you know they're not communist.

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you'll have nothing and like it is communist. Whatever you call it, the one percent want to kill seventy five percent of the world. Jill Stein is no doubt a good little communist progressive.

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You seem to be on the wrong substack mate...

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The Green Party is socialist.

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No it is not, it seeks a path forward under Capitalism. An impossibility but that is what it seeks.

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If it does then it might work or at least be worth trying. We don't have capitalism now. What we have is crony capitalism and corporatism with oligarchs. That is changing to you'll have nothing and like it, because if you don't we'll kill you or send you to the gulag. The plan was always for a communist system. The idea is to appeal to the sheep and true believers, communism is great, it will be utopia. We'll all be equal. All those communist ideas have been repeatedly tried and the sheep still believe. Even after all the misery and death caused by communism in the 20th century and ongoing today in cuba, north korea, china and venezuela.

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Is it?

I live in France under LIBERAL Socialism. This means we don't chuck people out into the streets. We have healthcare/free schools/homes for the elderly.

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Ah yes, the appeal to emotion. America has free healthcare if you're an illegal alien invader and public schools are free, there are also homes for the elderly. In any case the communist utopia only lasts until the money runs out. Graft, theft and corruption by the inner party members doesn't help either. Usually communists are convinced that communism will finally become the promised utopia when they've murdered enough people. Or send the bad think people to the gulag. The ones they don't murder that is. But that hasn't worked out well for them.

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socialism is a necessary step to communism. V.I. Lenin

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PLEASE tell me what "Communism" means to you?

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I have already adequately covered that. I would add there is no equality of outcome, that's impossible. Some people will be drunks, drug addicts, stupid, lazy, mentally ill and failures, no matter what. Some people will always be better in certain fields and certain professions. There is no possible way that equity, meaning equality of outcome, is anything other than a worthless concept that will only bring the world and civilization down to the lowest common denominator.

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Wilson. Why are Americans streaming into Europe right now? I guess you don't know this because you live in a bubble.

What they want is healthcare.

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Note that I haven’t personally insulted or attacked you for your beliefs. If Americans are streaming into Europe for death care that’s fine. I am a proponent of medical tourism. the U.S. death care system is rotten to the core. Health care in real speak means cut, burn and poison.

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That video was awesome. Love that young woman. Love the graphic. It is truly astonishing to me how otherwise intelligent people have all drunk the Harris/Walz Kool-Aid and are gushing over their nonexistent commitment to peace and justice in the Middle East. I feel like I live in an alternate reality. Or perhaps just "reality."

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I think it is reality. I understand the need to grasp for some hope when things look so bleak, but Harris has given us really nothing to believe that she will do any better than her predecessor. She seems to be adopting Biden's tough guy approach - it was all words and attitude with Biden and, so too, is it with Harris. So, to applaud her choice of Walz over Shapiro as a signal that she could bring about some change is as delusional as Democrats judge Trump supporters of being.

Yes, the young woman was great, and very brave, not that someone will physically harm her, but simply to stand up and speak what is currently going against the tide. It's a Rosa Parks action.

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Caitlin. I can't thank you enough for persistently holding holding a mirror to the world raising awareness that each and everyone can contribute to put an end to madness currently gripping our world. Thank you!

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American vote = fart in the wind 💨

Sorry, wish I could be more eloquent but having listened to the turd mountain 💩 that is the Israeli ambassador (even Gaddafi did a better job addressing the UN way back when..), and reading Caitlin’s article, which sums up everything we know about America’s sick political system, I have nothing meaningful left to say..

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"American vote = fart in the wind" - and not even a smelly one for those downwind to notice. Silent too.

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If silent it has to be smelly enough to gag. Hiding the perpetrator while gagging the rest is the whole point. Zionist tactics at their finest! Beer and hard boiled eggs for voting day.

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There is a peace candidate, also an equal rights-Medicare for all-non corporate-ecologically concerned and climate aware candidate, Dr. Jill Stein and the Green Party of the United States.

The Federal Election Commission denied to fund the earned $130M matching funds and silenced the Green Party as it began to move into national recognition as Biden was obstinately refusing to relinquish a second term Presidential campaign. What the FEC did was theft of election funds, their excuse for non payment was not valid and had never before been used.

Not only is the Republican=Democratic farce an election fraud, but it recoils in fear from any campaign of peace because that threatens the pipeline of blood profits in arms development, arms sales, and consumer market knock-on effect designed by economist Dr. Paul Wolfowitz as “the economic engine of capitalist democracy” - war profiteering by Wolfowitz’ neoconservative economics.

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Stein can't even support Freedom of Association

Any idea you can actually support peace while requiring people to associate with others is a non-starter

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Anyone who thinks they can non-associate with others has not started to grow up.

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so you would require people to associate with others ?

as to what people think they can do, I will let them decide, not the state as you would

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At first I thought you were talking about some Freudian concept - "Freedom of Association." From the discussion, I gather it means the freedom to associate with whomever you wish or no one. How does being a Dem, a Repub, a Socialist prevent that?

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it shouldn't

But some people rely on state-mandated associations or law-mandated associations to achieve their political goals - sometimes labeling it as social reform - on both the left and the right

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Speak up and out. This must not fade into oblivion.

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So right, Caitlin. On all counts. Wake The Fuck Up.

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"Peace Is Not On The Ballot In November". That got the black humour side of me. It isn't on the ballot for any of the Western countries. They are just a sick bunch of money mongers rushing to extinguish the planet and the people who live on it. Maybe they don't know what they are doing. At least that would be better than if they did know.

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I'm pretty sure they know exactly what they're doing Susan. 🤮

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"...sowing the seeds of revolution by showing as many people as you can that everything they’ve been trained to believe about their nation, their government and their world is a lie. Showing them how depraved their rulers are and how badly they’re being screwed over by exploitative status quo systems, and letting them know that a better world is possible."

This is what we all need to do. What's holding us back? Get out there and do something, anything!

Here's how I'm showing as many people as I can this week that their government--and its puppets--are all a lie: https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/scratch-the-surface

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Indeed! And yet, peace is on the ballot but Americans don't see it because the focus is only on the red vs. blue choice.

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In the recent UK election non-duopoly parties won a plurality of the vote.

Party Pct% Seats

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Non-duopoly…..42.6%…..114

Labour ………..…..33.7%........411

Tory…………........…23.7%......121

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And those figures show just how much the system is skewed and why the 2 main parties don't support Proportional Representation.

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JFC, Phil Gordon, Kamala's national security advisor tweeted 'she will always ensure Israel is able to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups. She does not support an arms embargo on Israel.' Can her position be ANY more explicit than that? Takei is a fucking idiot.

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indeed. in a recent campaign speech she said 'time for a ceasefire and bringing the hostages home is now'. note: no 'permanent' ceasefire (probably til after the elections) and no mention of the palestinian hostages. at the same time i read: 'the us biden-harris administration approves 20 billion in weapons sales (f15, missiles, tank rounds, mortar rounds, tactical vehicles) to israel'.

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We can refuse to vote for anyone who supports Israel. I think that means, in the case of the USA, Jill Stein. But all other action is so important: protest, boycott, speak out. It all matters.

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