Jill Stein will be on the Presidential ballot in most states. She is a genuine peace candidate. Let’s break the stranglehold of the war mongering duopoly. Vote Stein in November!
even if Jill Stein wins, which she won't, but if she did, the bureaucracy, the entrenched special interests, the three letter agencies, the MIC, the bought and paid for politicians, which is pretty much all of them, would crush her like a bug. She would upset the trough feeding, the power and wealth that comes if you're in the special club. The fight is between the communist globo homo NWO oligarchs and the other communist globo homo NWO oligarchs. Everyone else is a peasant, destined to be a serf.
I don't think you have a clue about what Communism is.
The examples you mention (each and every one of them) are neoliberal Capitalists of the worst kind. They are billionaires. Being a billionaire and being a communist are contradictory - but then you would know that if you understood what communism is.
Time to hit the books instead of listening to far-right rhetoric (whether coming from Independent or MSM sources).
All of them support the left, progressives, socialists which are just euphemisms for communism. They do this because under a communist system they will own the government. More so than they do now. There isn't any capitalism anymore. As proven by the Yale study some years ago, the U.S. is an oligarchy. The oligarchs think the best chance of staying wealthy and acquiring more wealth and power is to support communists. Which is why, with the possible exception of Musk, they all are.
of course I understand communism. I understand it has never worked and will never work. All communism brings is misery, starvation, rationing, gulags and mass murder for the large majority of any given population. And just like capitalism there is a tiny wealthy and powerful class. The difference is under capitalism there is a middle class and the living standard is much higher for everyone than in any communist country that ever existed. Under communism there are two classes the wealthy inner party and the peasants.
>>"All of them support the left, progressives, socialists which are just euphemisms for communism."
Like I said before, I don't think you understand "left, progressives, socialism, communism or even capitalism" - your statement proves it beyond a shadow of any doubt.
Here are some links on getting you started on your journey of understanding some of these concepts:
To be able to talk about the "Left" or "Socialism", etc. you need to understand what they are (as a first step). You won't get that information from "ANY" MSM media sources (regardless of what team they are on), and you will be hard-pressed to find such information from Independent media sources too.
Russia and China seem to be doing quite well under Liberal Communism.
One thing Americans cannot understand (because of continual brainwashing) is there are different types of communism and socialism.
I live here in France: For the moment we have Liberal Socialism which means we have free healthcare/schools/elderly peoples homes in each small town.
One of the reasons that FACISM won't work here in France is because the minute our healthcare starts crumbling (which it is now) we will have a revolution.
commie bernie has done all right. So did castro who died with a net worth of 400 million USD. All of the commie dictators were like that every single one.
heh heh. I really shouldn't speak to a true believer communist. It is both futile and pointless. To respond to your post, I have read many books and had some indirect experience with communist countries. One such book that as you say..........read something worthwhile is Life and Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng. Nien Cheng was declared an enemy of the state by the red guards in China when she refused to confess her crime. The crime of being an enemy of the state. She spent more than six years in solitary confinement.
I could relate some small personal stories but it would be a pointless exercise.
you'll have nothing and like it is communist. Whatever you call it, the one percent want to kill seventy five percent of the world. Jill Stein is no doubt a good little communist progressive.
If it does then it might work or at least be worth trying. We don't have capitalism now. What we have is crony capitalism and corporatism with oligarchs. That is changing to you'll have nothing and like it, because if you don't we'll kill you or send you to the gulag. The plan was always for a communist system. The idea is to appeal to the sheep and true believers, communism is great, it will be utopia. We'll all be equal. All those communist ideas have been repeatedly tried and the sheep still believe. Even after all the misery and death caused by communism in the 20th century and ongoing today in cuba, north korea, china and venezuela.
I live in France under LIBERAL Socialism. This means we don't chuck people out into the streets. We have healthcare/free schools/homes for the elderly.
Ah yes, the appeal to emotion. America has free healthcare if you're an illegal alien invader and public schools are free, there are also homes for the elderly. In any case the communist utopia only lasts until the money runs out. Graft, theft and corruption by the inner party members doesn't help either. Usually communists are convinced that communism will finally become the promised utopia when they've murdered enough people. Or send the bad think people to the gulag. The ones they don't murder that is. But that hasn't worked out well for them.
I have already adequately covered that. I would add there is no equality of outcome, that's impossible. Some people will be drunks, drug addicts, stupid, lazy, mentally ill and failures, no matter what. Some people will always be better in certain fields and certain professions. There is no possible way that equity, meaning equality of outcome, is anything other than a worthless concept that will only bring the world and civilization down to the lowest common denominator.
Note that I haven’t personally insulted or attacked you for your beliefs. If Americans are streaming into Europe for death care that’s fine. I am a proponent of medical tourism. the U.S. death care system is rotten to the core. Health care in real speak means cut, burn and poison.
Jill Stein will be on the Presidential ballot in most states. She is a genuine peace candidate. Let’s break the stranglehold of the war mongering duopoly. Vote Stein in November!
even if Jill Stein wins, which she won't, but if she did, the bureaucracy, the entrenched special interests, the three letter agencies, the MIC, the bought and paid for politicians, which is pretty much all of them, would crush her like a bug. She would upset the trough feeding, the power and wealth that comes if you're in the special club. The fight is between the communist globo homo NWO oligarchs and the other communist globo homo NWO oligarchs. Everyone else is a peasant, destined to be a serf.
wilson, What do you mean by "..... the communist globe homo NWO oligarchs .... ?
russian_bot where are you?
gates, soros, schwab, zuckerberg, the tech bros excepting musk are examples.
I don't think you have a clue about what Communism is.
The examples you mention (each and every one of them) are neoliberal Capitalists of the worst kind. They are billionaires. Being a billionaire and being a communist are contradictory - but then you would know that if you understood what communism is.
Time to hit the books instead of listening to far-right rhetoric (whether coming from Independent or MSM sources).
All of them support the left, progressives, socialists which are just euphemisms for communism. They do this because under a communist system they will own the government. More so than they do now. There isn't any capitalism anymore. As proven by the Yale study some years ago, the U.S. is an oligarchy. The oligarchs think the best chance of staying wealthy and acquiring more wealth and power is to support communists. Which is why, with the possible exception of Musk, they all are.
of course I understand communism. I understand it has never worked and will never work. All communism brings is misery, starvation, rationing, gulags and mass murder for the large majority of any given population. And just like capitalism there is a tiny wealthy and powerful class. The difference is under capitalism there is a middle class and the living standard is much higher for everyone than in any communist country that ever existed. Under communism there are two classes the wealthy inner party and the peasants.
>>"All of them support the left, progressives, socialists which are just euphemisms for communism."
Like I said before, I don't think you understand "left, progressives, socialism, communism or even capitalism" - your statement proves it beyond a shadow of any doubt.
Here are some links on getting you started on your journey of understanding some of these concepts:
(1) The Only Leftist Reading List You'll Ever Need (lol) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdwD7zwEpZw)
(2) Books You Need to Read to Understand Marxism (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWGhnEcMZA0)
(3) Leftist Reading Recommendations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTQasSQ2a6Q)
(4) Marxist Reading List for Beginners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Wt8eUbeOQ)
To be able to talk about the "Left" or "Socialism", etc. you need to understand what they are (as a first step). You won't get that information from "ANY" MSM media sources (regardless of what team they are on), and you will be hard-pressed to find such information from Independent media sources too.
Russia and China seem to be doing quite well under Liberal Communism.
One thing Americans cannot understand (because of continual brainwashing) is there are different types of communism and socialism.
I live here in France: For the moment we have Liberal Socialism which means we have free healthcare/schools/elderly peoples homes in each small town.
One of the reasons that FACISM won't work here in France is because the minute our healthcare starts crumbling (which it is now) we will have a revolution.
USA has nothing to revolt against!
Sure they are all communists while reaping wealth in a Capitalist system. Makes total sense, very clarifying.
commie bernie has done all right. So did castro who died with a net worth of 400 million USD. All of the commie dictators were like that every single one.
NO. Your idea of communism sucks............read something worthwhile
heh heh. I really shouldn't speak to a true believer communist. It is both futile and pointless. To respond to your post, I have read many books and had some indirect experience with communist countries. One such book that as you say..........read something worthwhile is Life and Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng. Nien Cheng was declared an enemy of the state by the red guards in China when she refused to confess her crime. The crime of being an enemy of the state. She spent more than six years in solitary confinement.
I could relate some small personal stories but it would be a pointless exercise.
It would help if progressives would just lose the damn defeatist attitude. Like I said before, not only we need as an Independent at every level.
Now you can resign yourself to becoming a serf, but don't expect everyone else to do the same.
'which she won't', the rest is obsolete. it's only a count of how many are aware about the rest. also, you know they're not communist.
you'll have nothing and like it is communist. Whatever you call it, the one percent want to kill seventy five percent of the world. Jill Stein is no doubt a good little communist progressive.
You seem to be on the wrong substack mate...
The Green Party is socialist.
No it is not, it seeks a path forward under Capitalism. An impossibility but that is what it seeks.
If it does then it might work or at least be worth trying. We don't have capitalism now. What we have is crony capitalism and corporatism with oligarchs. That is changing to you'll have nothing and like it, because if you don't we'll kill you or send you to the gulag. The plan was always for a communist system. The idea is to appeal to the sheep and true believers, communism is great, it will be utopia. We'll all be equal. All those communist ideas have been repeatedly tried and the sheep still believe. Even after all the misery and death caused by communism in the 20th century and ongoing today in cuba, north korea, china and venezuela.
Is it?
I live in France under LIBERAL Socialism. This means we don't chuck people out into the streets. We have healthcare/free schools/homes for the elderly.
Ah yes, the appeal to emotion. America has free healthcare if you're an illegal alien invader and public schools are free, there are also homes for the elderly. In any case the communist utopia only lasts until the money runs out. Graft, theft and corruption by the inner party members doesn't help either. Usually communists are convinced that communism will finally become the promised utopia when they've murdered enough people. Or send the bad think people to the gulag. The ones they don't murder that is. But that hasn't worked out well for them.
socialism is a necessary step to communism. V.I. Lenin
PLEASE tell me what "Communism" means to you?
I have already adequately covered that. I would add there is no equality of outcome, that's impossible. Some people will be drunks, drug addicts, stupid, lazy, mentally ill and failures, no matter what. Some people will always be better in certain fields and certain professions. There is no possible way that equity, meaning equality of outcome, is anything other than a worthless concept that will only bring the world and civilization down to the lowest common denominator.
Wilson. Why are Americans streaming into Europe right now? I guess you don't know this because you live in a bubble.
What they want is healthcare.
Note that I haven’t personally insulted or attacked you for your beliefs. If Americans are streaming into Europe for death care that’s fine. I am a proponent of medical tourism. the U.S. death care system is rotten to the core. Health care in real speak means cut, burn and poison.