Most people seem to think NATO is a good thing and we need it to defend ourselves from the evils of Russia and China. When I listen to MSM these days I hear about how other governments are treating the governed and how terrible that is. They talk about how there is no money to help immigrants, but they always have enough money to send more weapons and ammunition to Ukraine and to Israel to fight wars that really are being fought on behalf of the US which hardly anyone seems to realize. It is difficult for the people to even try to change things or to protest things when our MSM continues to report as if we are the good guys and others.....Russia, China, Africa, the Middle East.......are the bad guys. Everything "we" do is for democracy: everything "they" do is to benefit those in power.
You are not the first to note that we cannot afford fripperies and useless luxuries such as infrastructure, education or healthcare, but nobody cries "But we can't afford it!" when it comes to bailing out the billionaires at the casino or putting another stupid war on the national credit card.
And, in Cleveland, ALWAYS finding public funds to build, renovate sports' facilities owned by billionaires.....which most Clevelanders (we hoi polloi) can't afford to attend.....it never ends. An
As it has always been and always will be...thanks to PROPAGANDA and a press bought and owned by bizillionnaires....
What is to be done, Whatistobedone, start to really point out how the usa is a rogue, Gangster, war criminal, crimes against humanity, genocide, Holocaust doing and supporting, ... "nation". Since the Founding Liars.
There are no, as in NONE, other "nations" that come close to the evils the usa does, save for the sycophant sockcucker "nations" that support usa deep evil.
usa rank, but HIGHLY EFFECTIVE propaganda must be countered.
One GREAT way is to expose 9/11 for the mass murder it was done by elements of the usa government. That they can get away with this mass murder of some 2966 folks on 9/11 and the a further up to 6 million folks around the world who did NOTHING to the usa.
Not a single shred of evidence for the usa 9/11 fairy tale and myriad total scientific impossibilities, many usa and usa supporting "scientists" lies about the myriad total scientific impossibilities.
If this were exposed and the criminals responsible for lying and covering up all the lies, the usa's standing would take a big hit, and things would change.
Each and every one of the many total impossibilities of the USGs'O9/11CT sinks the usa fairy tale all by themselves.
WTC7 free fall acceleration, which can only happen with a controlled demolition. And the explosives that were used for the CDs of WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were found in WTC dust along with the explosive by products.
Case closed! Consider how usa lies about Russia & China and others get traction but the usa gets away with an event like 9/11 and goes on to mass murder more than the German Holocaust and by and large there is silence about the event.
Wow!! So in other words, you are basically a nihilist bent on destroying thousands of years of all of Western civilization!! Or perhaps, you are so intent on venting your spleen, you have failed to consider your own historical and philosophical ignorance!
They're also trying to push through expansion of AUKUS incase Biden is not elected. Two thirds of military spending of course just goes straight into MIC pockets. NATO has been revealed as a front.
Immigration policies hurt the poor and the working poor the most. If you defend mass immigration and criticize Capitalism, or defend Capitalism and criticize immigration you are a hypocrite.
immigration policies affect people who are trying to flee wars, often helped along by the US, the most. I would rather be a hypocrite in this case than inhuman.
Immigration has always been a political football, along with the more recent Wokeness political football. Although I would agree Immigration issues are important, if I had to rank the problems plaguing the US right now, I would say unchecked Militarism, gross Inequality and a lack of a Representative Democracy along with growing fascism, rank far higher than the issues of Immigration or Wokeness.
But in parallel with Caitlin's post today, corporate Media will push the Immigration and Wokeness issues over the elephants in the room: Trillions of dollars wasted on Wars sponsored by the Oligarchs, including genocide, and an unchecked Military Industrial Complex (including Boeing), and the evisceration of the Middle Class as America descends into gross inequality of the haves and have nots, not seen since America's gilded robber baron era of the 1920s.
Liberals have a boner for the word "nuanced", like, when Bill Clinton perjures himself or HRC violates the Espionage Act, that just means that we need to take a *nuanced* reading of the statute to excuse them.
So let me take a nuanced view: when a PMC yuppie hears the words "more immigrants", those words mean "Cheaper au pairs and ethnic restaurants! O Goodies!" When a working class person hears the words "more immigrants" he thinks fewer jobs, more competition for housing, longer lines for services.
I am generally *for* immigration, but let's not pretend that immigration is cost-free, or that these costs are borne equally by everyone.
Yes it falls into the same category as “controversial”. It would deserve pride of place in the badly needed and enlarging niche - the “Weasel’s Dictionary” . Ambrose Bierce has already taken the Devil’s Dictionary?
Rob Henderson cites a study indicating that "educated people are more likely to express prejudice toward immigrants who are described as highly educated, relative to less educated, and are therefore seen as job competitors." I always thought the idea that conservatives didn't like immigrants because they viewed them as job competition was a liberal canard, but apparently not, or at least not entirely: https://www.robkhenderson.com/p/the-grand-canyon-sized-chasm-between
Not only that, permitting the importation of a new underclass, mass immigration provides the regime with fresh opportunities to engineer solutions to social problems and ethnic conflicts. In this way, immigration strengthens and perpetuates liberalism’s moral legitimacy. At the expense of everyone else.
Some truth to that. Somewhat like how prisoners have remarked that the prison guards encourage racial divisions as that makes the inmates easier to control.
Americans are described as “naive” about their ME foreign policy. Not amoral, not fraudulent. Not wantonly untrustworthy. Just naive in the way you are when you have CIA spies in every country, spy on all your own citizens and allies and maintain 800 military bases in 70 countries.
You are saying that people who live in an empire that has caused poverty and governmental breakdown in many other nations to enrich the rich and afford some trickle down to the middle class, are entitled to, and should ,slam shut the borders to the refugees from our own county's policies. Lucky for us that our own ancestors didn't face that attitude, tho they usually faced discrimination after being let in., Many of those south of the border have ancestors here much farther back than most of us privileged honkies, who are entitled to live here because of all that hard work we did to earn the privilege, in being born here. I also think your thesis is false. Perhaps immigration causes some job loss, but most immigrants are doing shit jobs Americans don't want. Much job loss comes from outsourcing, and from automation.
Iirc, the libertarian/free market version of this goes something like if there is to be free flow of capital there also needs to be free flow of labor.
I would add that the free market "version" above is supposed to be the most efficient way to run real free market ecomomies, where supply can meet demand (including labor). When labor is restricted but capital isn't, it's not a real free market. Also, I'm making no defense of that approach, just saying that capitalists who don't want free flow of labor are not true free market advocates (thus, as you say, mostly hypocrites).
Except when it can juice productivity without increasing wages. Continually throwing cheap labor into the machine definitely helps this through depressing all the wages and raising worker anxiety, but this isn't necessarily also an increase in population.
These newcomers often cant even get a work permit - you are correct about the organizing, but there's more to it than just that. When undocumented people show up at the workplace, there is an immediate decision split that offers a choice of two options: 1) help these people through organizing or 2) exclude these people through organizing (or ICE). Sadly the anxiety we live in over job security leads most often to the latter, and any rare occasion anyone takes the first option leads to people pooping themselves that "communism" has taken hold.
no they want nothing more than for the US to stop trying to overthrow their governments. They are not committing genocide. they are not invading or destabilizing Mexico or Canada or Venezuela or Cuba or Grenada to use as tools against the US. I am deeply sorry that you have internalized all this propaganda. I can't see ANY wars that the US has been involved in since it inherited/manipulated its way into being the sole superpower that have been worth it. Not Korea (another US genocide), or Greece, or Iraq, or Guatemala, or Vietnam, or Nicaragua, or Iraq, or Iran. None of them.
I do not have the same view of the US, their empathy etc. as you do. I don't think Judeo-Christian ethics foster empathy, kindness and understanding at all and I have very limited respect for Liberal Western Political values. I have lived in other countries and some have been way more accepting of others than either the US or Canada, where I live. Others have been equally racist and classist. I do agree that many other countries have just as many issues with racism etc as the US. I don't see communism as an answer to anything. I don't think that the US government has high moral values at all and I also do not think that the Russian or Chinese governments have high moral values. I think you have blinders on about the environment in which you live.
Sure he could stop the war overnight just like POTUS JFK could and did. If Genocide Joe did that they would immediately rush him to a mental health facility and keep him there while his replacement set about increasing the supply of bombs and shells to Israel .
This is the third or fourth time there is no notification of a post from Substack for Caitlin;s Post no other, just this particular post. Can someone help with this, or is this purposely done. Not in spam either. If it happened once I would think it's an accident, but no more.
All Americans and all non-Americans should see the lickspittle video on you tube of Nutjobahoo speaking to Congress. Premedication with anti-emetics highly recommended.
There must be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza in order to comply with the ICJ ruling. Not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Let us also support UNRWA. If our governments won’t act in accordance with humanity, then we will. https://www.unrwausa.org/donate Let us do it to honor Aaron Bushnell, or in memory of Hind Rajab.
Let us call for a No Fly-Zone over Gaza!
These are a few small things we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
The propaganda is worse than you state, as it’s twisted the minds of people into believing that 10’s of thousands of dead Palestinian civilians is morally justified. Many people I encounter on comment threads, I love trolling the daily wire especially, are fully aware of what’s happening, as far as the death and are ok with it. I’ve had heated arguments with coworkers about it. They believe Israel is on the right side, and any collateral damage is just that, and justified. To me this is even more disgusting then just being misinformed. They want every Palestinian dead, but somehow have convinced themselves that’s not calling for a genocide..
This is not surprising, considering that the MSM is doing the equivalent of jamming their fingers into their ears and screaming "I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
Not to mention that, if the average frustrated American were to admit the obvious, this would logically lead to all sorts of other unpleasant conclusions about Israel and our own government, and our role in supporting hose states and their acts of genocide.
Since the average frustrated American has no real say in government policies, even if he wanted to have one, that would require rather jarring cognitive dissonances to avoid unpleasant (and potentially harmful) conclusions.
By contrast, if you play stupid, you can avoid all that.
This all relates back to the “ Smith-Mundt Modernization Act “ 2012. The bill became law in January 2013, signed by Obama. Simply put it allows the use of propaganda & lies to subvert the public. Blaming the media is but a small portion of this evil. Our elected representatives both parties unleashed this abomination on its own citizens. Remove this act and it will make our representatives accountable.
"the use of propaganda & lies to subvert the public" has been standard use, but voluminously used since the Founding Liars/Slavers/rapists/torturers/Holocausters/... .
Spot on. As a corollary to your proposition, people have stopped deep diving into main stream media because 1) they have been told not to believe it, 2) they shouldn't believe it, 3) the journalistic method (which I learned in Jr. High School) has been tipped on its head (the real information is no longer contained in the first paragraph, but hidden somewhere near the end).
Watch those YouTube videos where the interviewer asks random American history questions to people on the beach, boardwalk, or street in California. The vast majority don't know anything except where the nearest Starbucks is. The American population is ignorant, compliant, and therefore complicit.
Respectfully speaking - this "supposed" poll doesn't hold an ounce of credence nor does any other supposed polls! Everyone I speak with - hundreds of people are consumed with horror regarding what Israel is doing. Just this morning my building manager was on her way to church to pray for the Palestinians! All of these polls are nothing but bunkum bullshit and balderdash. I'm shocked you would repeat them.
I had to laugh back in 2016 when they claimed Hillary Clinton was about to win (according to all the polls of course) in a landslide when in fact every single person you (polled) spoke with said they were voting for Trump! It was certainly no shock to me she lost! No different when they claim the economy is so robust because all the malls are packed - but when you LOOK at the "supposed" shoppers - none are actually carrying bags!
I have to say I'm a bit shocked that you would waste your time on such fallacy's. I often ask my friends (throughout the years) if they've ever been polled for ANYTHING and everyone says the exact same thing - NO!! That's how I determined and solidified they're all fictitious - but the Hillary polls were the worst and yet people bought into them!
The Mayor in my town (Fort Lee NJ - think Bridge Gate - Mark Sokolich) claimed, when he polled the residents, they all wanted more outdoor dining on Main Street. Mind you, this is just one of the many streets that head to the GWB and are congested with diesel spewing jitneys (see photo) that basically cause you to choke on the fumes -https://boswellengineering.com/projects-c-transportation-streetscape/. As you can see no one in their right mind wants to sit outside dining, nor ever does.
Yet Mark insisted and swore that's what the residents wanted - according to his polls of course! For months and months I asked nearly everyone in that town if they heard of such a poll to which they all replied - they knew absolutely nothing about! The next time I saw Mark I asked him where exactly he conducted this supposed poll and if it were perhaps around his own kitchen table?
I'm in my middle 60's and have never ever been polled for anything - except the stuff you now buy on line or a doctors visit. In fact, if you look at these reviews the vast majority are all fictious as well - you can tell just by the wording. It's all the same.
One website I went to when looking for a doctor, had a few, maybe a hundred or so reviews (mostly all worded the same) but no actual place (or icon) to leave and or write a review - hysterical!!! The whole system is completely bogus! That's why anytime I read the phrases survey - polls or reviews I pay absolutely no attention.
As I say, there is not one person I've spoken with that is not consumed with sorrow, hatred anger and horror regarding the slaughter of so many innocent victims. Even the younger generations are paying attention!
Other than what I have read in articles - I have not personally encountered anyone supporting Israel - by the way I also live 10 minutes from Teaneck NJ where there are 15,000 Jewish residents who were out protesting a recent real-estate event to sell land in Gaza.
Hundreds of Palestine supporters protest Israeli real estate ...
Mar 11, 2024 — The “Great Israeli Real Estate Event” has inflamed existing tensions in Teaneck, a town of approximately 41,000 residents and home to large ...
I'm surprised half of Americans know the answer. I'd have guessed it's even lower.
I agree the press plays a significant role in that, but general human inattention and disinterest are also a part of it. And the variables that impact where we place our attention are enormous - a big discussion on its own.
20 percent of news consumers reading past a headline seems high, as well. I'd like a better source on that.
That said, I wish the press would publish in a way that would put pressure on those who could end this to end this.
- Generally, at least with the written media, the editors write the headlines, not the reporters. (I’ve heard reporters complaining about how misleading their choices often are.) It makes even more sense, then, that editorial bias stands out most prominently in the headlines.
- Beyond that, the reporting and writing both are often biased as well, especially when it comes to the Middle East, Russia and other places/conflicts in which our government is active.
- Back to how written articles: there is a formula used in writing them, with an opening paragraph specifically designed as an abbreviated version, both for those who don’t typically read beyond it and as an encouragement, nevertheless, to do so. That’s followed by the main body of the report, and then by a summary/closing. There are often conflicting biases/‘facts’ within the articles themselves - perhaps because of multiple reporters, sloppy/bootlicking writing, or, in that opening paragraph, direct editorial input.
So....if this is a "war," why haven't there been any_ countering attacks on Israel by whatever-enemy-Israel- conjures up.... since Oct. 7? Does not "war" imply at least a marginal tit for tat violence-wise between warriors?
Yes, Whatstobedone. This is one of the many distortions - the misuse of language - that the propaganda media uses. We are constantly told of a "war" as if it's a war between equals. When it actually is a war by a powerful nation - aided and abetted by the Western powers - on the people and land they occupy with brutal force. It is like the Nazi onslaught on the Warsaw ghetto. .
And yet the 300 million clueless in the US AND another 300 million clueless in Europe STILL think they are doing some sort of holy goodness in Ukraine.
We live in a world of stupidly with no limits whatsoever.
Most people seem to think NATO is a good thing and we need it to defend ourselves from the evils of Russia and China. When I listen to MSM these days I hear about how other governments are treating the governed and how terrible that is. They talk about how there is no money to help immigrants, but they always have enough money to send more weapons and ammunition to Ukraine and to Israel to fight wars that really are being fought on behalf of the US which hardly anyone seems to realize. It is difficult for the people to even try to change things or to protest things when our MSM continues to report as if we are the good guys and others.....Russia, China, Africa, the Middle East.......are the bad guys. Everything "we" do is for democracy: everything "they" do is to benefit those in power.
You are not the first to note that we cannot afford fripperies and useless luxuries such as infrastructure, education or healthcare, but nobody cries "But we can't afford it!" when it comes to bailing out the billionaires at the casino or putting another stupid war on the national credit card.
And, in Cleveland, ALWAYS finding public funds to build, renovate sports' facilities owned by billionaires.....which most Clevelanders (we hoi polloi) can't afford to attend.....it never ends. An
As it has always been and always will be...thanks to PROPAGANDA and a press bought and owned by bizillionnaires....
What is to be done, Whatistobedone, start to really point out how the usa is a rogue, Gangster, war criminal, crimes against humanity, genocide, Holocaust doing and supporting, ... "nation". Since the Founding Liars.
There are no, as in NONE, other "nations" that come close to the evils the usa does, save for the sycophant sockcucker "nations" that support usa deep evil.
usa rank, but HIGHLY EFFECTIVE propaganda must be countered.
One GREAT way is to expose 9/11 for the mass murder it was done by elements of the usa government. That they can get away with this mass murder of some 2966 folks on 9/11 and the a further up to 6 million folks around the world who did NOTHING to the usa.
Not a single shred of evidence for the usa 9/11 fairy tale and myriad total scientific impossibilities, many usa and usa supporting "scientists" lies about the myriad total scientific impossibilities.
If this were exposed and the criminals responsible for lying and covering up all the lies, the usa's standing would take a big hit, and things would change.
Each and every one of the many total impossibilities of the USGs'O9/11CT sinks the usa fairy tale all by themselves.
WTC7 free fall acceleration, which can only happen with a controlled demolition. And the explosives that were used for the CDs of WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were found in WTC dust along with the explosive by products.
Case closed! Consider how usa lies about Russia & China and others get traction but the usa gets away with an event like 9/11 and goes on to mass murder more than the German Holocaust and by and large there is silence about the event.
Wow!! So in other words, you are basically a nihilist bent on destroying thousands of years of all of Western civilization!! Or perhaps, you are so intent on venting your spleen, you have failed to consider your own historical and philosophical ignorance!
Yes! A brilliant, logical, and appropriate counter argument to the hypocrisy you are addressing ! Thank goodness!!
Not sure that I mentioned immigrants or immigration....
You're right! Doh. Wrong thread. Going to delete comment.
No worries.
this article will never be found in the mainstream media. The truth, that is. The absolutely despicable treatment of UNRWA
https://inthesetimes.com/article/defunding-unrwa-never-about-hamas
great song by Jenn Grant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t11I45OmE88&t=48s
Noam Chomsky says of NATO, that NATO exists to deal with the problems created by its existence. I agree.
NATO is over!
that would be good news. probably the mainstream news would even report it, altho I am not sure they would say it was good news
They're also trying to push through expansion of AUKUS incase Biden is not elected. Two thirds of military spending of course just goes straight into MIC pockets. NATO has been revealed as a front.
Immigration policies hurt the poor and the working poor the most. If you defend mass immigration and criticize Capitalism, or defend Capitalism and criticize immigration you are a hypocrite.
immigration policies affect people who are trying to flee wars, often helped along by the US, the most. I would rather be a hypocrite in this case than inhuman.
Immigration has always been a political football, along with the more recent Wokeness political football. Although I would agree Immigration issues are important, if I had to rank the problems plaguing the US right now, I would say unchecked Militarism, gross Inequality and a lack of a Representative Democracy along with growing fascism, rank far higher than the issues of Immigration or Wokeness.
But in parallel with Caitlin's post today, corporate Media will push the Immigration and Wokeness issues over the elephants in the room: Trillions of dollars wasted on Wars sponsored by the Oligarchs, including genocide, and an unchecked Military Industrial Complex (including Boeing), and the evisceration of the Middle Class as America descends into gross inequality of the haves and have nots, not seen since America's gilded robber baron era of the 1920s.
Liberals have a boner for the word "nuanced", like, when Bill Clinton perjures himself or HRC violates the Espionage Act, that just means that we need to take a *nuanced* reading of the statute to excuse them.
So let me take a nuanced view: when a PMC yuppie hears the words "more immigrants", those words mean "Cheaper au pairs and ethnic restaurants! O Goodies!" When a working class person hears the words "more immigrants" he thinks fewer jobs, more competition for housing, longer lines for services.
I am generally *for* immigration, but let's not pretend that immigration is cost-free, or that these costs are borne equally by everyone.
Yes it falls into the same category as “controversial”. It would deserve pride of place in the badly needed and enlarging niche - the “Weasel’s Dictionary” . Ambrose Bierce has already taken the Devil’s Dictionary?
Rob Henderson cites a study indicating that "educated people are more likely to express prejudice toward immigrants who are described as highly educated, relative to less educated, and are therefore seen as job competitors." I always thought the idea that conservatives didn't like immigrants because they viewed them as job competition was a liberal canard, but apparently not, or at least not entirely: https://www.robkhenderson.com/p/the-grand-canyon-sized-chasm-between
Not only that, permitting the importation of a new underclass, mass immigration provides the regime with fresh opportunities to engineer solutions to social problems and ethnic conflicts. In this way, immigration strengthens and perpetuates liberalism’s moral legitimacy. At the expense of everyone else.
Some truth to that. Somewhat like how prisoners have remarked that the prison guards encourage racial divisions as that makes the inmates easier to control.
Proletariat, deplorables—the ones you'd like to put in gulag.
I just saw another one
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/24/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine/?commentID=82563aa6-58e2-4603-a774-1fe5a486b880
Americans are described as “naive” about their ME foreign policy. Not amoral, not fraudulent. Not wantonly untrustworthy. Just naive in the way you are when you have CIA spies in every country, spy on all your own citizens and allies and maintain 800 military bases in 70 countries.
More nuanced than that, LOL 😂😆
You are saying that people who live in an empire that has caused poverty and governmental breakdown in many other nations to enrich the rich and afford some trickle down to the middle class, are entitled to, and should ,slam shut the borders to the refugees from our own county's policies. Lucky for us that our own ancestors didn't face that attitude, tho they usually faced discrimination after being let in., Many of those south of the border have ancestors here much farther back than most of us privileged honkies, who are entitled to live here because of all that hard work we did to earn the privilege, in being born here. I also think your thesis is false. Perhaps immigration causes some job loss, but most immigrants are doing shit jobs Americans don't want. Much job loss comes from outsourcing, and from automation.
Iirc, the libertarian/free market version of this goes something like if there is to be free flow of capital there also needs to be free flow of labor.
Capitalism in any form, DEMANDS constant increase in population.
I would add that the free market "version" above is supposed to be the most efficient way to run real free market ecomomies, where supply can meet demand (including labor). When labor is restricted but capital isn't, it's not a real free market. Also, I'm making no defense of that approach, just saying that capitalists who don't want free flow of labor are not true free market advocates (thus, as you say, mostly hypocrites).
Except when it can juice productivity without increasing wages. Continually throwing cheap labor into the machine definitely helps this through depressing all the wages and raising worker anxiety, but this isn't necessarily also an increase in population.
Real capitalists love immigration because it enables that labor exploitation.
These newcomers often cant even get a work permit - you are correct about the organizing, but there's more to it than just that. When undocumented people show up at the workplace, there is an immediate decision split that offers a choice of two options: 1) help these people through organizing or 2) exclude these people through organizing (or ICE). Sadly the anxiety we live in over job security leads most often to the latter, and any rare occasion anyone takes the first option leads to people pooping themselves that "communism" has taken hold.
Excellent. And in a nut shell! 👍
no they want nothing more than for the US to stop trying to overthrow their governments. They are not committing genocide. they are not invading or destabilizing Mexico or Canada or Venezuela or Cuba or Grenada to use as tools against the US. I am deeply sorry that you have internalized all this propaganda. I can't see ANY wars that the US has been involved in since it inherited/manipulated its way into being the sole superpower that have been worth it. Not Korea (another US genocide), or Greece, or Iraq, or Guatemala, or Vietnam, or Nicaragua, or Iraq, or Iran. None of them.
i think you need to read some objective history books, and not nonsense that glorifies the role of the US empire in the world.
Praying on what high moral standards?
I wasn't born here. and this substack has not been allowing edits.
I do not have the same view of the US, their empathy etc. as you do. I don't think Judeo-Christian ethics foster empathy, kindness and understanding at all and I have very limited respect for Liberal Western Political values. I have lived in other countries and some have been way more accepting of others than either the US or Canada, where I live. Others have been equally racist and classist. I do agree that many other countries have just as many issues with racism etc as the US. I don't see communism as an answer to anything. I don't think that the US government has high moral values at all and I also do not think that the Russian or Chinese governments have high moral values. I think you have blinders on about the environment in which you live.
goodness you are so naive and blinkered in your view of the US.
And US legislators are going to invite Bibi over for yet another insulting bloodthirsty lecture?
Genocide Joe could stop this war overnight if he had the inclination - instead of he and Blinken issuing toothless threats that Bibi ignores.
Sure he could stop the war overnight just like POTUS JFK could and did. If Genocide Joe did that they would immediately rush him to a mental health facility and keep him there while his replacement set about increasing the supply of bombs and shells to Israel .
This is the third or fourth time there is no notification of a post from Substack for Caitlin;s Post no other, just this particular post. Can someone help with this, or is this purposely done. Not in spam either. If it happened once I would think it's an accident, but no more.
All Americans and all non-Americans should see the lickspittle video on you tube of Nutjobahoo speaking to Congress. Premedication with anti-emetics highly recommended.
Biden: "Here's some bombs. Now don't you be dropping these on your enemies, you hear? Or you'll be getting some strong words from us."
There must be a permanent ceasefire in Gaza in order to comply with the ICJ ruling. Not with Palestinians suffering under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
Code pink
https://www.codepink.org/cnngaza?utm_campaign=12_15_pali_update_alert_3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=codepink
Let us also support UNRWA. If our governments won’t act in accordance with humanity, then we will. https://www.unrwausa.org/donate Let us do it to honor Aaron Bushnell, or in memory of Hind Rajab.
Let us call for a No Fly-Zone over Gaza!
These are a few small things we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
The propaganda is worse than you state, as it’s twisted the minds of people into believing that 10’s of thousands of dead Palestinian civilians is morally justified. Many people I encounter on comment threads, I love trolling the daily wire especially, are fully aware of what’s happening, as far as the death and are ok with it. I’ve had heated arguments with coworkers about it. They believe Israel is on the right side, and any collateral damage is just that, and justified. To me this is even more disgusting then just being misinformed. They want every Palestinian dead, but somehow have convinced themselves that’s not calling for a genocide..
The moral depravity is truly disgusting. Western values ain’t worth the paper they’re written on…
"Western values" is an oxymoron.
Western White "christian" Holocausts are the world's largest, by 10s, 20s, 30s of millions.
It used to be Judeo-Christian. Now it seems that Judeo is sufficient.
Dr.Who: The moral depravity is truly disgusting. Western values ain’t worth the paper they’re written on…
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The usa total Con con stee 2 shunis a perfect example of that.
This is not surprising, considering that the MSM is doing the equivalent of jamming their fingers into their ears and screaming "I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
Not to mention that, if the average frustrated American were to admit the obvious, this would logically lead to all sorts of other unpleasant conclusions about Israel and our own government, and our role in supporting hose states and their acts of genocide.
Since the average frustrated American has no real say in government policies, even if he wanted to have one, that would require rather jarring cognitive dissonances to avoid unpleasant (and potentially harmful) conclusions.
By contrast, if you play stupid, you can avoid all that.
They get to avoid the discomfort of being "good Germans," unlike those of us who are watching these horrors and don't know what we can do about it.
This all relates back to the “ Smith-Mundt Modernization Act “ 2012. The bill became law in January 2013, signed by Obama. Simply put it allows the use of propaganda & lies to subvert the public. Blaming the media is but a small portion of this evil. Our elected representatives both parties unleashed this abomination on its own citizens. Remove this act and it will make our representatives accountable.
I remember the day that law was passed. Couldn't believe it.
"the use of propaganda & lies to subvert the public" has been standard use, but voluminously used since the Founding Liars/Slavers/rapists/torturers/Holocausters/... .
The prioritising of politics over humanitarianism will be the death of us all and I do mean death.
As Jonathon Cook wrote today…."The Western media’s hands are stained in Gaza’s blood."
Spot on. As a corollary to your proposition, people have stopped deep diving into main stream media because 1) they have been told not to believe it, 2) they shouldn't believe it, 3) the journalistic method (which I learned in Jr. High School) has been tipped on its head (the real information is no longer contained in the first paragraph, but hidden somewhere near the end).
yes, it's not accurate to reduce the problem to "oh everyone are dipshits who don't know any better", although there's a fair amount of it
Watch those YouTube videos where the interviewer asks random American history questions to people on the beach, boardwalk, or street in California. The vast majority don't know anything except where the nearest Starbucks is. The American population is ignorant, compliant, and therefore complicit.
Respectfully speaking - this "supposed" poll doesn't hold an ounce of credence nor does any other supposed polls! Everyone I speak with - hundreds of people are consumed with horror regarding what Israel is doing. Just this morning my building manager was on her way to church to pray for the Palestinians! All of these polls are nothing but bunkum bullshit and balderdash. I'm shocked you would repeat them.
I had to laugh back in 2016 when they claimed Hillary Clinton was about to win (according to all the polls of course) in a landslide when in fact every single person you (polled) spoke with said they were voting for Trump! It was certainly no shock to me she lost! No different when they claim the economy is so robust because all the malls are packed - but when you LOOK at the "supposed" shoppers - none are actually carrying bags!
I have to say I'm a bit shocked that you would waste your time on such fallacy's. I often ask my friends (throughout the years) if they've ever been polled for ANYTHING and everyone says the exact same thing - NO!! That's how I determined and solidified they're all fictitious - but the Hillary polls were the worst and yet people bought into them!
Jeano:
The Mayor in my town (Fort Lee NJ - think Bridge Gate - Mark Sokolich) claimed, when he polled the residents, they all wanted more outdoor dining on Main Street. Mind you, this is just one of the many streets that head to the GWB and are congested with diesel spewing jitneys (see photo) that basically cause you to choke on the fumes -https://boswellengineering.com/projects-c-transportation-streetscape/. As you can see no one in their right mind wants to sit outside dining, nor ever does.
Yet Mark insisted and swore that's what the residents wanted - according to his polls of course! For months and months I asked nearly everyone in that town if they heard of such a poll to which they all replied - they knew absolutely nothing about! The next time I saw Mark I asked him where exactly he conducted this supposed poll and if it were perhaps around his own kitchen table?
I'm in my middle 60's and have never ever been polled for anything - except the stuff you now buy on line or a doctors visit. In fact, if you look at these reviews the vast majority are all fictious as well - you can tell just by the wording. It's all the same.
One website I went to when looking for a doctor, had a few, maybe a hundred or so reviews (mostly all worded the same) but no actual place (or icon) to leave and or write a review - hysterical!!! The whole system is completely bogus! That's why anytime I read the phrases survey - polls or reviews I pay absolutely no attention.
As I say, there is not one person I've spoken with that is not consumed with sorrow, hatred anger and horror regarding the slaughter of so many innocent victims. Even the younger generations are paying attention!
Other than what I have read in articles - I have not personally encountered anyone supporting Israel - by the way I also live 10 minutes from Teaneck NJ where there are 15,000 Jewish residents who were out protesting a recent real-estate event to sell land in Gaza.
Hundreds of Palestine supporters protest Israeli real estate ...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › mar › new-je...
Mar 11, 2024 — The “Great Israeli Real Estate Event” has inflamed existing tensions in Teaneck, a town of approximately 41,000 residents and home to large ...
I'm surprised half of Americans know the answer. I'd have guessed it's even lower.
I agree the press plays a significant role in that, but general human inattention and disinterest are also a part of it. And the variables that impact where we place our attention are enormous - a big discussion on its own.
20 percent of news consumers reading past a headline seems high, as well. I'd like a better source on that.
That said, I wish the press would publish in a way that would put pressure on those who could end this to end this.
Two quick notes:
- Generally, at least with the written media, the editors write the headlines, not the reporters. (I’ve heard reporters complaining about how misleading their choices often are.) It makes even more sense, then, that editorial bias stands out most prominently in the headlines.
- Beyond that, the reporting and writing both are often biased as well, especially when it comes to the Middle East, Russia and other places/conflicts in which our government is active.
- Back to how written articles: there is a formula used in writing them, with an opening paragraph specifically designed as an abbreviated version, both for those who don’t typically read beyond it and as an encouragement, nevertheless, to do so. That’s followed by the main body of the report, and then by a summary/closing. There are often conflicting biases/‘facts’ within the articles themselves - perhaps because of multiple reporters, sloppy/bootlicking writing, or, in that opening paragraph, direct editorial input.
That’s three!
Yeah I was going to say
So....if this is a "war," why haven't there been any_ countering attacks on Israel by whatever-enemy-Israel- conjures up.... since Oct. 7? Does not "war" imply at least a marginal tit for tat violence-wise between warriors?
Yes, Whatstobedone. This is one of the many distortions - the misuse of language - that the propaganda media uses. We are constantly told of a "war" as if it's a war between equals. When it actually is a war by a powerful nation - aided and abetted by the Western powers - on the people and land they occupy with brutal force. It is like the Nazi onslaught on the Warsaw ghetto. .
I had no idea! This is just unbelievable. How ill informed can people be?!
That’s right - Americans are clueless navel gazers - who woudl have ever thought?
Similarly a UKRANIAN court recently and openly declared that the Maidan “revolution” was a false flag coup:
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/12/11/ukrainian-maidan-massacre-false-flag/
…while the NY Times even openly says the CIA has been using Ukraine to attack the Russians since 2104:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
And yet the 300 million clueless in the US AND another 300 million clueless in Europe STILL think they are doing some sort of holy goodness in Ukraine.
We live in a world of stupidly with no limits whatsoever.