Fabricated atrocities to promote eternal war. Seems appropriate on Memorial Day to remember the actual atrocities perpetrated by my government on my generation. So here's to my old friend, P, who returned from Vietnam with nascent agent-orange-triggered cancer. The therapy for which then proceeded to ruin his lifelong health. The massive amount of hidden atrocities and ruined lives of its own citizens as a a result of US foreign policy in itself merits the appellation "atrocity" as Ron Kovic would doubtless opine; and it drives the selection of Memorial Day as my friend P's most hated day of the year. Yet we demean the victims of US atrocities through the propaganda of a feckless media driven by big money. Please don't freaking tell me, Newsweek et al., that you honor the service of our veterans.
It's becoming obvious the Ukranian government is preparing for capitulation to Russia as they are trying to clean-up their act and present scapegoats for their atrocities to their fellow Ukrainians and Russian military. It will be the contents of mobile phones that will condemn the Nazis in the Ukrainian military. I expect Russian tech will be able to recover deleted videos.
"I expect Russian tech will be able to recover deleted videos"
Some of their crimes were even posted online! This is how I learned the fate of the people who died in Odessa - from the Azov Brigade's own website. These people never expected to be held accountable. This is what happens when you recruit total losers from football clubs and prisons, then place them in positions of authority. Women are involved in these crimes too, some even committed them. Pure psychopaths. All of them.
Steel yourselves, because it's a lot worse than what we've seen so far. Anyone in the media that tries to cover this up, is at this point complicit and deserves the same fate as the perpetrators. They didn't rob the bank, but they sure as hell drove the get-away car.
The boy is now 17. Is he a member of an Azov-style group?
The people that enabled this crime are still not held accountable.
If confronted, the criminals laugh it off and immediately the their PR consultant will change the debate to whether or not it was a lapse to cover the stench of the crime.
The crimes are mentioned once in a while, then passed off with a meaningless curse that slides into a sigh of nothing to be done about it. The same hapless feeling knowing the coming end of the Empire is going to bring us all to destruction.
Perhaps appropriate of nothing:
"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me"
Listening to a lot of Ben Norton, Pepe Escobar and Max Blumenthal podcasts.
s/the very rich/Americans
Americans who lap up this war porn like it is mother's milk.
Americans who can't rid themselves of their own Batista, Samoza, or Pol Pot.
It should be obvious Americans need to prepare for economic capitulation to Russia and China. Fallen "leaders" will attempt to clean-up their act and present scapegoats to atone for atrocities and incompetence of "others"; excuses for America's fall into poverty as the world watches in justified schadenfreude.
Azov was also posting videos in Bucha of prisoner executions. Prisoners with their hands tied behind them and wearing a white armband....just like the victims the west claimed were killed by Russia.
I can't read Ukrainian, but my wife and family are all Czech (next door). Father in law's comment about Ukrainian Nazis (he's 80) is that everyone knows the Ukrainians have had a Nazi problem since WWII.
In October 1962, at age 19, I slept next to the planes with the Paratroopers of the famed 82nd Airborne Division. We were waiting to jump into Havana in what would have been WWIII, if not for President Kennedy.
Russia had placed missiles in Cuba. Kennedy had mobilized our military to remove those missiles while he was in daily contact with the Russians, negotiating a way to Peace.
I am 80 now. Still grateful for president Kennedy’s love for our troops; grateful that he loved us enough to resolve the rush to WWIII by agreeing to remove U.S. missiles aimed at Russia from Turkey if the Russians took their missiles out of Cuba. Which they did.
I voted for President Biden, thinking he might have graduated from his warmongering past to discover a bit of JFK’s heroism for peace. How wrong I was!
Russia, like the United States has a human right to be free from NATO (U.S.) missiles. Most foreign affairs experts agreed. Most foreign affairs experts predicted for decades that if NATO expanded to threaten Russia, we’d be in WWIII. Biden understood that. But Biden does not care. Biden is surrounded by warmongers and fascists from the project for A New American Century, who deliberately led us into this war.
Now the bright spot is Zelensky’s peace offer to insure Ukrainians and Russians that Ukraine will no longer threaten Russia. The U.S. needs to promote this peace.
But on Saturday, Biden’s Secretary of State Tony Blinken, was in Israel trying to drum up more arms from the Israelis and our friends in Saudi Arabia (the folks who did 9/11 and bomb Yemen every day) for the war fighters in Ukraine.
There are many reporters now writing and saying that Biden, Victoria Nuland, and PNAC do not want peace. Biden says his sanctions will damage us all. Biden says we must accept decades more war.
I wonder…..who are these people? They attack us at home by cutting our wages, pensions and close plants. They ship our jobs to slaves in this constant domestic war on workers. And then, they take the domestic war on workers abroad with bullets, bombs and lies. This is their foreign policy.
I wonder….who are these people? Most of them seem to have never had a real job. Most couldn’t care less for working stiffs and our troops. Most of them are somehow the multi-millionaire Elite who are too proud to fight. And thus, the humble do the fighting. We do not need decades of more war. We need a new Peace Movement. We need a new Solidarity Movement. We need Good Jobs for All. We need a raise. We need to get along so our kids can live happy lives in happy communities.
Everywhere.
God bless Dorothy Day, Cesar Chavez, Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy!– Tom Laney
The rest of the story...Russia put missles in Cuba BECAUSE the US had missles in Turkey, aimed at Moscow. Kennedy agreed to remove missles from Turkey. Today there are missles in Turkey.
These "people" are the tools working for the "Black Nobility" who want to cull us down to a manageable level (a few hundred thousand!) and then "own" us via hybridization with patented AI, make us their slaves, and basically be the "gods" they think they are. Yes, it's a crazy idea, because these people ARE crazy... psychopaths, all of them. The chain of events, starting with Covid (fraud) and continuing with a poison inoculation, and soon we'll see the results of the sabotage of our food supply, and so on, with the end result being a vast, mass genocide and control of the Entire Planet... Ludicrous. It can't work. But they can sure as hell cause extreme suffering and death until they are taken out. These are the people who have caused suffering and death for thousands of years, and who have murdered our heroes who tried to help us... repeatedly. If you want to learn about true history, try Matthew Ehret, among others.
Nothing surprises me about this foul proxy war anymore. I'm just wondering when all the little blue/yellow flag icons will disappear from Twitter, Facebook and the like when folks finally realize how they've been lied to and manipulated.
Some people are so deep in denial they'll never admit they've been lied to. Mark Twain talked about that. Easier to fool people than to show them they've be fooled is what he said. It can be staring them in the face and they still won't see it. I question whether you can actually describe such people as conscious. They don't seem like it to me.
"With eavesdroppers, letter-openers, decipherers, telephone tappers, spies, an intercept department, a forgery department, a criminal investigation department, a propaganda department, an intelligence department, a censorship department, a ministry of information, a Press bureau, etc., the various Governments were well equipped to “instruct” their peoples."
-- Lord Alfred Ponsonby, from his book "Falsehood in War-Time", published in 1928.
The US is the muscle for the "Black Nobility" of the City of London... So much is now coming to light that we've never been told... The British Empire never died at all, and the US Military is the Enforcer of their evil.
Anything that challenges the current narrative is "misinformation", anything that supports the current current narrative is not. Facts and evidence are irrelevant.
Every war has been started and perpetuated by lies because the majority of human beings don't really want war. People who do have serious psychological problems. The people leading our governments and corporations, the media pundits and people who call for war, are unstable.
They just make it up as they go along. The BBC is the worst. Compare today to their documentaries on Ukraine circa 2014. 180 degrees out of phase. I guess they're counting on the fact that no one's looking, but a lot of us are. And you know, I don't care if you're just a cameraman or a grip. You get tagged with it as well, and there will be an accounting.
Thank you Caitlin! This exposure of Denisova is a perfect illustration of the avalanche of propaganda, funded by billions of $$–much of it taxpayer money, that insidiously serves to coverup the now hidden and conveniently forgotten evidence that Zelensky provoked Russia to intervene by ramping up the bombing of the Russian-speaking Donbas on February 16th. And so interventionist liberals label all their critics who refuse to buy the fabricated pretexts for war Putin apologists, including an increasing number of western military figures with impeccable credentials such as former Swiss colonel and ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence Jacques Baud, former US Colonel Dick Black, former US Colonel Douglas Macgregor, former Marine Corp Intelligence officer Scott Ritter, and former British Army major and Australian Army lawyer David Mcbride.
Interestingly, this phase of the propaganda war, fueled by a cadre of frontline fabricationists like Denisova, has created an unlikely alliance between detente conservatives and progressive defenders of the new non-aligned world order emerging from the Global South. That unlikely allies come together argues for dissenters' and war critics' allegiances to fact over ideology.
Propagandists on all sides, including the Russian side, succeed when their victims are unaware of how they have been duped and when their victims become so overwhelmed by conflicting information they have no other means to discern the truth than by appeals to emotions and ideology rather than basic verified facts. Victims of Denisova become so emotionally fused with their propagandists they are totally lost to critical thinking that entails questioning all assumptions, distinguishing fact from speculations, and recognizing the inherent subjectivity of knowledge.
No imperial side in this war is without its share of barbarous inhumanity. To justify and support one empire ganging up on another is not only misguided it is complicit in the harm being done by Zelensky and ultranationalists at the behest of Blinken against any Ukrainian opposition and against the Ukrainians in the Donbas who initially voted to become an autonomous region within Ukraine and not an independent republic.
I just watched the 7 NEWS at 6 O'Clock...they're still trumpeting Lyudmila Denisova's claims. No mention of her getting fired! Someone forgot to tell them LOL!
We've seen this pattern over and over again. Most clearly with COVID, where the waters get "muddied" with as many different stories as possible until anyone trying to find out "the truth" is confronted with so many different experts and so many different possibilities, it is impossible to know what that truth is.
An excellent example of this is the handling of the Ukraine war on Reddit. Each sub has a different perspective and amplifies that perspective repeatedly. If one posts a comment that questions "cannon", they are immediately banned -- permanently. Eventually, one might locate a sub where some honest discussion can occur, but they are small.
Yeah, they don't seem to tolerate anything that upsets the narrative! I used to go on there regularly, but it veered on the toxic side of things, especially in the political subs. Can't reason with the irrational!
FWIW: the r/wayofthebern is the one place where I've found rational discussion. They ban no one, but they may require "idiots" to include the phrase "i like turtles" in their posts.
Sometimes even those guys have good points to consider.
Fabricated atrocity war porn for the totally uncritical western media brainwashed consumer. Before western colonial oligarchy's false system of 'education' (Latin 'to-lead-forth-from-within'), false 'religion' (L 'religio' = 'to-relate'), false 'media' (L 'medium' = 'middle') & false 'democracy' (Greek 'power-of-the-people') mess with children & all our brains, the natural person looks at multiple sides to issues in order to contrast & compare sources, facts, figures etc.
DIALECTIC RIGHTS We need to openly engage our own & other societies in dialectic rights for all people in all relationships as was once common in all humanity's ancient 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') COUNCIL PROCESS.
IGNORANT AGGRESSION BASED IN DELIBERATE MISINFORMATION. Whenever there's conflict both at home & worldwide, we've two main choices to: 1) believe the finance-media-religion-education-military-industrial-legislative-complex, demonize the other, armour ourselves against our perceived enemies, launch pre-emptive war & create hell, 2) engage the other in formal equal-time recorded & published dialogues. Mohandas Gandhi developed 'Satyagraha' (Hindi 'truth-search') based upon simultaneous inquiry with both parties in dispute or re-search asking, "What are your best intentions & how can we help you fulfill these?". Gandhi, "I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward. Possession of arms implies an element of fear, if not cowardice. But true non-violence is an impossibility without the possession of unadulterated fearlessness."
We need transparency in all levels of human solutions at home, school, media, business for all stakeholders. As Socrates proposed, dialectics (both-sided inquiry) should be the foundation of social & economic literacy both for collaborative-research & as necessity may arise for conflict-resolution.
The west plays 'Right-to-Protect' game for 100s of colonial years keeping citizens in the dark staging many 100s of False Flag events, colonial invasion & genocide. NO-WAR until we hear Both-Sides present in Equal-Time, Recorded & Published Debate. Most issues & events in our colonial oligarch manipulated & consumptive world aren’t as they appear. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
Another fatherless child. Seems to be a theme here.
An interesting career, how to interpret it through a CIA controlled (influenced?) propaganda outlet though is kind of difficult.
Perhaps an impertinent question, but one that's bothering me...
If a white guy were to be the communications director for a BLM organization and he spoke of "white racists", would he be a scumbag?
I'm not in anyway trying to suggest Deniscova isn't a scumbag but you are a "russian_bot".
Is it possible that an ethnic Russian could work for the Ukraine government and not be a "scumbag"?
Of course, that question assumes, perhaps stupidly, that there are people who work for the government -- any government -- who aren't "scumbags". Cliven and Ammon Bundy come to mind, being so anti-government. How do they get away with it? Does the FBI finance them like they did the "terrorists" who were going to kidnap Gov Whitmer? (Which, of course, leads to Ted Bundy, so I guess all Bundys are -- what exactly?)
No, I don't have a point. Just looking for ways of coping with the stuff Caitlin writes about.
There's really no difference between Russians, Ukrainians, and Belorussians ethnically. It's the same people. On top of that there's such an intermixing over the centuries that it's impossible to say who is what. Many if not the majority of those fighting right now for Ukraine are in fact ethnic Russians.
And vice versa - on the Russian side, including the army, there's plenty of ethnic Ukrainians. And again, it's impossible to ascertain the "purity" of any of those.
So no, it's not like BLM at all. For her to claim "racist occupiers" is playing the rest of the world, the West especially. It's total BS and she and everyone else in that part of the world knows it.
The differences between "races" of human beings are maybe .1% ... As long as there are eugenicists, there will be "superior races" and "inferior races." And as long as there are psychopaths running the world, there will be eugenicists. Time for a little evolution, eh?
Fabricated atrocities to promote eternal war. Seems appropriate on Memorial Day to remember the actual atrocities perpetrated by my government on my generation. So here's to my old friend, P, who returned from Vietnam with nascent agent-orange-triggered cancer. The therapy for which then proceeded to ruin his lifelong health. The massive amount of hidden atrocities and ruined lives of its own citizens as a a result of US foreign policy in itself merits the appellation "atrocity" as Ron Kovic would doubtless opine; and it drives the selection of Memorial Day as my friend P's most hated day of the year. Yet we demean the victims of US atrocities through the propaganda of a feckless media driven by big money. Please don't freaking tell me, Newsweek et al., that you honor the service of our veterans.
It's becoming obvious the Ukranian government is preparing for capitulation to Russia as they are trying to clean-up their act and present scapegoats for their atrocities to their fellow Ukrainians and Russian military. It will be the contents of mobile phones that will condemn the Nazis in the Ukrainian military. I expect Russian tech will be able to recover deleted videos.
"I expect Russian tech will be able to recover deleted videos"
Some of their crimes were even posted online! This is how I learned the fate of the people who died in Odessa - from the Azov Brigade's own website. These people never expected to be held accountable. This is what happens when you recruit total losers from football clubs and prisons, then place them in positions of authority. Women are involved in these crimes too, some even committed them. Pure psychopaths. All of them.
Steel yourselves, because it's a lot worse than what we've seen so far. Anyone in the media that tries to cover this up, is at this point complicit and deserves the same fate as the perpetrators. They didn't rob the bank, but they sure as hell drove the get-away car.
As long as the MSM stridently refuse to cover the abundant evidence of mass-scale Ukrainian atrocities, it won't matter to most people in the West.
Let us not forget:
https://news.yahoo.com/news/eight-years-abu-ghraib-lynndie-englands-not-doing-182310634.html
The boy is now 17. Is he a member of an Azov-style group?
The people that enabled this crime are still not held accountable.
If confronted, the criminals laugh it off and immediately the their PR consultant will change the debate to whether or not it was a lapse to cover the stench of the crime.
The crimes are mentioned once in a while, then passed off with a meaningless curse that slides into a sigh of nothing to be done about it. The same hapless feeling knowing the coming end of the Empire is going to bring us all to destruction.
Perhaps appropriate of nothing:
"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me"
http://www.quotecounterquote.com/2009/11/rich-are-different-famous-quote.html?m=1
Listening to a lot of Ben Norton, Pepe Escobar and Max Blumenthal podcasts.
s/the very rich/Americans
Americans who lap up this war porn like it is mother's milk.
Americans who can't rid themselves of their own Batista, Samoza, or Pol Pot.
It should be obvious Americans need to prepare for economic capitulation to Russia and China. Fallen "leaders" will attempt to clean-up their act and present scapegoats to atone for atrocities and incompetence of "others"; excuses for America's fall into poverty as the world watches in justified schadenfreude.
Azov was also posting videos in Bucha of prisoner executions. Prisoners with their hands tied behind them and wearing a white armband....just like the victims the west claimed were killed by Russia.
Not only Azov.
For that matter, if you can read Ukrainian, you can find Ukrainian nationalists gleefully celebrating the deaths of civilians in Donetsk.
I can't read Ukrainian, but my wife and family are all Czech (next door). Father in law's comment about Ukrainian Nazis (he's 80) is that everyone knows the Ukrainians have had a Nazi problem since WWII.
3/31/2022
To The Editor:
In October 1962, at age 19, I slept next to the planes with the Paratroopers of the famed 82nd Airborne Division. We were waiting to jump into Havana in what would have been WWIII, if not for President Kennedy.
Russia had placed missiles in Cuba. Kennedy had mobilized our military to remove those missiles while he was in daily contact with the Russians, negotiating a way to Peace.
I am 80 now. Still grateful for president Kennedy’s love for our troops; grateful that he loved us enough to resolve the rush to WWIII by agreeing to remove U.S. missiles aimed at Russia from Turkey if the Russians took their missiles out of Cuba. Which they did.
I voted for President Biden, thinking he might have graduated from his warmongering past to discover a bit of JFK’s heroism for peace. How wrong I was!
Russia, like the United States has a human right to be free from NATO (U.S.) missiles. Most foreign affairs experts agreed. Most foreign affairs experts predicted for decades that if NATO expanded to threaten Russia, we’d be in WWIII. Biden understood that. But Biden does not care. Biden is surrounded by warmongers and fascists from the project for A New American Century, who deliberately led us into this war.
Now the bright spot is Zelensky’s peace offer to insure Ukrainians and Russians that Ukraine will no longer threaten Russia. The U.S. needs to promote this peace.
But on Saturday, Biden’s Secretary of State Tony Blinken, was in Israel trying to drum up more arms from the Israelis and our friends in Saudi Arabia (the folks who did 9/11 and bomb Yemen every day) for the war fighters in Ukraine.
There are many reporters now writing and saying that Biden, Victoria Nuland, and PNAC do not want peace. Biden says his sanctions will damage us all. Biden says we must accept decades more war.
I wonder…..who are these people? They attack us at home by cutting our wages, pensions and close plants. They ship our jobs to slaves in this constant domestic war on workers. And then, they take the domestic war on workers abroad with bullets, bombs and lies. This is their foreign policy.
I wonder….who are these people? Most of them seem to have never had a real job. Most couldn’t care less for working stiffs and our troops. Most of them are somehow the multi-millionaire Elite who are too proud to fight. And thus, the humble do the fighting. We do not need decades of more war. We need a new Peace Movement. We need a new Solidarity Movement. We need Good Jobs for All. We need a raise. We need to get along so our kids can live happy lives in happy communities.
Everywhere.
God bless Dorothy Day, Cesar Chavez, Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy!– Tom Laney
The rest of the story...Russia put missles in Cuba BECAUSE the US had missles in Turkey, aimed at Moscow. Kennedy agreed to remove missles from Turkey. Today there are missles in Turkey.
These "people" are the tools working for the "Black Nobility" who want to cull us down to a manageable level (a few hundred thousand!) and then "own" us via hybridization with patented AI, make us their slaves, and basically be the "gods" they think they are. Yes, it's a crazy idea, because these people ARE crazy... psychopaths, all of them. The chain of events, starting with Covid (fraud) and continuing with a poison inoculation, and soon we'll see the results of the sabotage of our food supply, and so on, with the end result being a vast, mass genocide and control of the Entire Planet... Ludicrous. It can't work. But they can sure as hell cause extreme suffering and death until they are taken out. These are the people who have caused suffering and death for thousands of years, and who have murdered our heroes who tried to help us... repeatedly. If you want to learn about true history, try Matthew Ehret, among others.
Nothing surprises me about this foul proxy war anymore. I'm just wondering when all the little blue/yellow flag icons will disappear from Twitter, Facebook and the like when folks finally realize how they've been lied to and manipulated.
Some people are so deep in denial they'll never admit they've been lied to. Mark Twain talked about that. Easier to fool people than to show them they've be fooled is what he said. It can be staring them in the face and they still won't see it. I question whether you can actually describe such people as conscious. They don't seem like it to me.
Mass Formation Psychosis
They can't see it until it slams itself over their skulls... personal suffering is a sure alarm.
'the Ukrainian government is more sceptical of Ukrainian government claims than the western mainstream press.'
at this point i'd say that fits a lot of countries right now
Johnstone’s concluding comment points inescapably toward NATO’s corrupting influence & loathesome policies.
Oh, very well then, Lord Posonby's Ten Commandments of War Propaganda:
1. We don’t want war, we are only defending ourselves.
2. Our adversary is solely responsible for this war.
3. Our adversary’s leader is inherently evil and resembles the devil.
4. We are defending a noble cause, not our particular interests.
5. The enemy is purposefully committing atrocities; if we are making mistakes this happens without intention.
6. The enemy makes use of illegal weapons.
7. We suffer few losses, the enemy’s losses are considerable.
8. Recognized intellectuals and artists support our cause.
9. Our cause is sacred.
10. Whoever cases doubt on our propaganda helps the enemy and is a traitor.
"With eavesdroppers, letter-openers, decipherers, telephone tappers, spies, an intercept department, a forgery department, a criminal investigation department, a propaganda department, an intelligence department, a censorship department, a ministry of information, a Press bureau, etc., the various Governments were well equipped to “instruct” their peoples."
-- Lord Alfred Ponsonby, from his book "Falsehood in War-Time", published in 1928.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Atrocity Propaganda? Who would do such a thing? Standard Amerikan practice. Wherever we spread our "liberty and freedom" the corruption follows...
The US is the muscle for the "Black Nobility" of the City of London... So much is now coming to light that we've never been told... The British Empire never died at all, and the US Military is the Enforcer of their evil.
Much of this is true, IMO.
I like my sources. ^_^ Frances Leader, Matthew Ehret, James Corbett, Whitney Webb, Tessa Lena, and our friend here, Caitlin Johnstone, among others.
Anything that challenges the current narrative is "misinformation", anything that supports the current current narrative is not. Facts and evidence are irrelevant.
Keep on fighting Caitlin!!!
Every war has been started and perpetuated by lies because the majority of human beings don't really want war. People who do have serious psychological problems. The people leading our governments and corporations, the media pundits and people who call for war, are unstable.
The people who want war are making profits from war. Simple as that.
They just make it up as they go along. The BBC is the worst. Compare today to their documentaries on Ukraine circa 2014. 180 degrees out of phase. I guess they're counting on the fact that no one's looking, but a lot of us are. And you know, I don't care if you're just a cameraman or a grip. You get tagged with it as well, and there will be an accounting.
Thank you Caitlin! This exposure of Denisova is a perfect illustration of the avalanche of propaganda, funded by billions of $$–much of it taxpayer money, that insidiously serves to coverup the now hidden and conveniently forgotten evidence that Zelensky provoked Russia to intervene by ramping up the bombing of the Russian-speaking Donbas on February 16th. And so interventionist liberals label all their critics who refuse to buy the fabricated pretexts for war Putin apologists, including an increasing number of western military figures with impeccable credentials such as former Swiss colonel and ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence Jacques Baud, former US Colonel Dick Black, former US Colonel Douglas Macgregor, former Marine Corp Intelligence officer Scott Ritter, and former British Army major and Australian Army lawyer David Mcbride.
Interestingly, this phase of the propaganda war, fueled by a cadre of frontline fabricationists like Denisova, has created an unlikely alliance between detente conservatives and progressive defenders of the new non-aligned world order emerging from the Global South. That unlikely allies come together argues for dissenters' and war critics' allegiances to fact over ideology.
Propagandists on all sides, including the Russian side, succeed when their victims are unaware of how they have been duped and when their victims become so overwhelmed by conflicting information they have no other means to discern the truth than by appeals to emotions and ideology rather than basic verified facts. Victims of Denisova become so emotionally fused with their propagandists they are totally lost to critical thinking that entails questioning all assumptions, distinguishing fact from speculations, and recognizing the inherent subjectivity of knowledge.
No imperial side in this war is without its share of barbarous inhumanity. To justify and support one empire ganging up on another is not only misguided it is complicit in the harm being done by Zelensky and ultranationalists at the behest of Blinken against any Ukrainian opposition and against the Ukrainians in the Donbas who initially voted to become an autonomous region within Ukraine and not an independent republic.
I just watched the 7 NEWS at 6 O'Clock...they're still trumpeting Lyudmila Denisova's claims. No mention of her getting fired! Someone forgot to tell them LOL!
On purpose.
We've seen this pattern over and over again. Most clearly with COVID, where the waters get "muddied" with as many different stories as possible until anyone trying to find out "the truth" is confronted with so many different experts and so many different possibilities, it is impossible to know what that truth is.
An excellent example of this is the handling of the Ukraine war on Reddit. Each sub has a different perspective and amplifies that perspective repeatedly. If one posts a comment that questions "cannon", they are immediately banned -- permanently. Eventually, one might locate a sub where some honest discussion can occur, but they are small.
Yeah, they don't seem to tolerate anything that upsets the narrative! I used to go on there regularly, but it veered on the toxic side of things, especially in the political subs. Can't reason with the irrational!
FWIW: the r/wayofthebern is the one place where I've found rational discussion. They ban no one, but they may require "idiots" to include the phrase "i like turtles" in their posts.
Sometimes even those guys have good points to consider.
Fabricated atrocity war porn for the totally uncritical western media brainwashed consumer. Before western colonial oligarchy's false system of 'education' (Latin 'to-lead-forth-from-within'), false 'religion' (L 'religio' = 'to-relate'), false 'media' (L 'medium' = 'middle') & false 'democracy' (Greek 'power-of-the-people') mess with children & all our brains, the natural person looks at multiple sides to issues in order to contrast & compare sources, facts, figures etc.
DIALECTIC RIGHTS We need to openly engage our own & other societies in dialectic rights for all people in all relationships as was once common in all humanity's ancient 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') COUNCIL PROCESS.
IGNORANT AGGRESSION BASED IN DELIBERATE MISINFORMATION. Whenever there's conflict both at home & worldwide, we've two main choices to: 1) believe the finance-media-religion-education-military-industrial-legislative-complex, demonize the other, armour ourselves against our perceived enemies, launch pre-emptive war & create hell, 2) engage the other in formal equal-time recorded & published dialogues. Mohandas Gandhi developed 'Satyagraha' (Hindi 'truth-search') based upon simultaneous inquiry with both parties in dispute or re-search asking, "What are your best intentions & how can we help you fulfill these?". Gandhi, "I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward. Possession of arms implies an element of fear, if not cowardice. But true non-violence is an impossibility without the possession of unadulterated fearlessness."
We need transparency in all levels of human solutions at home, school, media, business for all stakeholders. As Socrates proposed, dialectics (both-sided inquiry) should be the foundation of social & economic literacy both for collaborative-research & as necessity may arise for conflict-resolution.
The west plays 'Right-to-Protect' game for 100s of colonial years keeping citizens in the dark staging many 100s of False Flag events, colonial invasion & genocide. NO-WAR until we hear Both-Sides present in Equal-Time, Recorded & Published Debate. Most issues & events in our colonial oligarch manipulated & consumptive world aren’t as they appear. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
Denisova, an ethnic Russian, "the racist occupiers...". The very definition of a scumbag: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmyla_Denisova
Another fatherless child. Seems to be a theme here.
An interesting career, how to interpret it through a CIA controlled (influenced?) propaganda outlet though is kind of difficult.
Perhaps an impertinent question, but one that's bothering me...
If a white guy were to be the communications director for a BLM organization and he spoke of "white racists", would he be a scumbag?
I'm not in anyway trying to suggest Deniscova isn't a scumbag but you are a "russian_bot".
Is it possible that an ethnic Russian could work for the Ukraine government and not be a "scumbag"?
Of course, that question assumes, perhaps stupidly, that there are people who work for the government -- any government -- who aren't "scumbags". Cliven and Ammon Bundy come to mind, being so anti-government. How do they get away with it? Does the FBI finance them like they did the "terrorists" who were going to kidnap Gov Whitmer? (Which, of course, leads to Ted Bundy, so I guess all Bundys are -- what exactly?)
No, I don't have a point. Just looking for ways of coping with the stuff Caitlin writes about.
There's really no difference between Russians, Ukrainians, and Belorussians ethnically. It's the same people. On top of that there's such an intermixing over the centuries that it's impossible to say who is what. Many if not the majority of those fighting right now for Ukraine are in fact ethnic Russians.
And vice versa - on the Russian side, including the army, there's plenty of ethnic Ukrainians. And again, it's impossible to ascertain the "purity" of any of those.
So no, it's not like BLM at all. For her to claim "racist occupiers" is playing the rest of the world, the West especially. It's total BS and she and everyone else in that part of the world knows it.
The differences between "races" of human beings are maybe .1% ... As long as there are eugenicists, there will be "superior races" and "inferior races." And as long as there are psychopaths running the world, there will be eugenicists. Time for a little evolution, eh?