So true, clean up your own mess before taking on another. I do have hope for our species based on being a parent (along with my wife) who nurtured three children into adulthood that now have children of their own. Children do really stupid things along the way, especially the teen years, when they think they deserve adult freedoms without showing the follow throughs or responsibilities necessary for generative growth. What to do with maddening situations like this of profound immaturity? Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water as tempting as it might be!
I found through the many frustrations and occasional successes of parenting that maturity was a two way street. I became less self centered through a the seemingly unending practice of helping my children look outside themselves to be less self-centered.
Ken Wilber, philosopher/ sociologist, developed a model for viewing human maturity cross-culturally and as a species. We transcend through individuation, but the problem is presented by either including or excluding what we move out from. As Europeans colonized the Americas with advanced technologies and weapons, destroying other cultures in their path, so to did they lose the cultural wisdom of community, myth and connection to the earth.
I’m always, even on a daily basis, tempted to exclude others who I deem to be professionally stupid, selfish and recalcitrant. But fortunately or unfortunately I’m on the same planet traveling through time learning the hard lessons of humility and compassion that come through the forbearance of holding other’s opposites.
Could it be that “advanced” extra-terrestrial possibly hold us and our planet in the same way, humbly desiring the best for us. Patiently waiting in pregnant expectation for our wholly into maturity and freedom. I ultimately felt this desire for my children as a parent and historically speaking we all know now that the Europeans should have done this in their great quest and exploration of other lands.
Let’s not build a roof cynicism to fast for our species, immaturity is not final but generative.
One thing an advanced alien species might do is social experiments. For example, one scientist might study the impact of advanced weaponry. What would happen if we introduced gunpowder to Humans, would they use it to improve mining efficiency, just use it to make weapons to kill competitors, or maybe both; and how long would it take for them to determine that the weapons path leads eventually to self-destruction - if ever?
why would they interact with us? because this planet is very valueable they will noy let us destroy i t>>>>they make us look like monkeys we cant match them in any way
Just the idea that these UFO's are flying around aircraft carriers, engaging planes, and seen by nuclear silo's, Tells us what, logically (relatively speaking)? IF Bob Lazare was telling the truth, in late 1980's DARPA was already "flying" the discovered: "vehicles not of this earth" in the desert. How would they "use" this skill...create another "reason" for huge military defense "budget".
I like the idea, like so many do, that intelligence exists outside our universe. if it's really earth being 'visited', I fantasize that ET realizes that the way to a harmonious relationship or interaction is to vaporize the 1%, and all it's governing bodies..Utopia achieved.
The aliens aren't coming for the sole reason that there aren't any who have ever visited Earth, or are even aware of us. We've looked & are continuing to look, but so far, there are no traces of life anywhere else in the universe besides on our blue marble.
For those who want to say we should take care of Earth first before we settle any other planets, I say to them, that is a false dichotomy, the fallacy of relative privation. There is more than enough money & resources to do both. Humans have always been explorers, it's the way we're built, & to erect some arbitrary boundary that says you can't go here until you do this just isn't going to happen.
The problem is the super-rich hoarding wealth, & hobbling our economy by not paying for things like infrastructure, which their businesses use far more than any individual taxpayer does. Reduce the ability of them to have influence & effects on nation-states like the EU & the US, then maybe we can get somewhere with the other problems, like climate shift, world hunger, & healthcare. They are the first domino that has to be knocked down.
The technocrauts have offered junk economics (neoliberalism), junk education (Common Core), junk energy tech (5G), junk foreign policy and junk Rockefeller for-profit medicine, but MANY are too aware at this point to buy any of it. We should listen to the King of Science. #TeslaOzone
Logic will continue to be dismissed as long as profit motive rules this world.
> A very possible answer to the Fermi paradox is that we haven't met the aliens because a civilization far more advanced than our own would have matured emotionally and spiritually beyond the need to sail around the galaxy molesting the natives like a bunch of fifteenth century Europeans.
Thanks Caitlin, as usual your brilliant writing gets a good belly laugh out of me followed by an intense feeling of sadness. But always with a small ray of hope knowing that you have more hot take content I can consume later.
So true, clean up your own mess before taking on another. I do have hope for our species based on being a parent (along with my wife) who nurtured three children into adulthood that now have children of their own. Children do really stupid things along the way, especially the teen years, when they think they deserve adult freedoms without showing the follow throughs or responsibilities necessary for generative growth. What to do with maddening situations like this of profound immaturity? Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water as tempting as it might be!
I found through the many frustrations and occasional successes of parenting that maturity was a two way street. I became less self centered through a the seemingly unending practice of helping my children look outside themselves to be less self-centered.
Ken Wilber, philosopher/ sociologist, developed a model for viewing human maturity cross-culturally and as a species. We transcend through individuation, but the problem is presented by either including or excluding what we move out from. As Europeans colonized the Americas with advanced technologies and weapons, destroying other cultures in their path, so to did they lose the cultural wisdom of community, myth and connection to the earth.
I’m always, even on a daily basis, tempted to exclude others who I deem to be professionally stupid, selfish and recalcitrant. But fortunately or unfortunately I’m on the same planet traveling through time learning the hard lessons of humility and compassion that come through the forbearance of holding other’s opposites.
Could it be that “advanced” extra-terrestrial possibly hold us and our planet in the same way, humbly desiring the best for us. Patiently waiting in pregnant expectation for our wholly into maturity and freedom. I ultimately felt this desire for my children as a parent and historically speaking we all know now that the Europeans should have done this in their great quest and exploration of other lands.
Let’s not build a roof cynicism to fast for our species, immaturity is not final but generative.
Another well-articulated and cogent take. Watching the American government of late makes ME feel like an alien.
One thing an advanced alien species might do is social experiments. For example, one scientist might study the impact of advanced weaponry. What would happen if we introduced gunpowder to Humans, would they use it to improve mining efficiency, just use it to make weapons to kill competitors, or maybe both; and how long would it take for them to determine that the weapons path leads eventually to self-destruction - if ever?
Spot on. Also, I read Lisa And The Stranger. I found it so beautiful and decided to share it with a French translation: https://www.facebook.com/gilbertg7/posts/10226324714048640
And, of course, you can use it if you wish
I agree. We'd be better off looking for "extra-paradigm" help in living on Earth, perhaps from our indigenous ancestors.
Soundly stated ..Bashar claims to be an extraterrestrial and channels himself through a human and teaches humans how to be more happy and centered.
Amen amen amen to every word. This is my favorite thing you ever wrote.
What's more, my 97-year-old mother LOVES it.
Something I wrote that's related (and short) https://amba12.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/its-a-vast-oversimplification/
why would they interact with us? because this planet is very valueable they will noy let us destroy i t>>>>they make us look like monkeys we cant match them in any way
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Just the idea that these UFO's are flying around aircraft carriers, engaging planes, and seen by nuclear silo's, Tells us what, logically (relatively speaking)? IF Bob Lazare was telling the truth, in late 1980's DARPA was already "flying" the discovered: "vehicles not of this earth" in the desert. How would they "use" this skill...create another "reason" for huge military defense "budget".
I like the idea, like so many do, that intelligence exists outside our universe. if it's really earth being 'visited', I fantasize that ET realizes that the way to a harmonious relationship or interaction is to vaporize the 1%, and all it's governing bodies..Utopia achieved.
The aliens aren't coming for the sole reason that there aren't any who have ever visited Earth, or are even aware of us. We've looked & are continuing to look, but so far, there are no traces of life anywhere else in the universe besides on our blue marble.
For those who want to say we should take care of Earth first before we settle any other planets, I say to them, that is a false dichotomy, the fallacy of relative privation. There is more than enough money & resources to do both. Humans have always been explorers, it's the way we're built, & to erect some arbitrary boundary that says you can't go here until you do this just isn't going to happen.
The problem is the super-rich hoarding wealth, & hobbling our economy by not paying for things like infrastructure, which their businesses use far more than any individual taxpayer does. Reduce the ability of them to have influence & effects on nation-states like the EU & the US, then maybe we can get somewhere with the other problems, like climate shift, world hunger, & healthcare. They are the first domino that has to be knocked down.
The technocrauts have offered junk economics (neoliberalism), junk education (Common Core), junk energy tech (5G), junk foreign policy and junk Rockefeller for-profit medicine, but MANY are too aware at this point to buy any of it. We should listen to the King of Science. #TeslaOzone
Logic will continue to be dismissed as long as profit motive rules this world.
> A very possible answer to the Fermi paradox is that we haven't met the aliens because a civilization far more advanced than our own would have matured emotionally and spiritually beyond the need to sail around the galaxy molesting the natives like a bunch of fifteenth century Europeans.
Thanks Caitlin, as usual your brilliant writing gets a good belly laugh out of me followed by an intense feeling of sadness. But always with a small ray of hope knowing that you have more hot take content I can consume later.