And I don’t give a flying fuck about his “confessions” to a priest, or his “Last Rites”: Genocide Joe’s eternity will be spent wandering a desolate landscape strewn with the corpses he created, and useless AIPAC dollars that he cannot use to buy his way out of the hell he created for himself.
No. Sorry, but the idea of a hell is a social control mechanism to convince you there is an ultimate justice some powerful god will do for you. so you cannot do it yourself. It's a trick created by the elite millennia ago to let them live out their lives of excess they stole from everyone.
All you fucking people are jerks, you all deserve being associated with the republicon party. Biden inherited a shit economy because of mango Mussolini. But you're to fucking stupid to know it.
What has the economy to do with Biden's full throated embrace and support of the Israeli genocide? Billions to starve, bomb, burn, shoot and bury mostly women and children.
It pales by comparison, but Biden was largely responsible for the bankruptcy bill that prevented debt forgiveness for average Americans declaring personal bankruptcy, while corporate bankruptcies sail on through with all debts erased. That was typical of Biden's contributions to the economy - suffering for most Americans; more benefits for his billionaire cohorts.
Slight correction: Biden's bankruptcy bill targeted only one aspect of debt - educational/student loans - making it harder to discharge these loans.
In terms of corporate bankruptcies, there are 2 primary ones - chapter 7 and chapter 11. And NO, is is NOT "sail on through with all debts erased". The corporation has to sell-off all its assets to pay the debts (in a certain pecking order) or re-organize/re-finance its debts (if it wishes to continue to exist).
No one is disputing that he inherited a mess but when he was elected there wasn’t a genocide. HE is responsible for the deaths of at least 250K people half of which are women and children and he didn’t give a fuck. He gave Bibi weapons and money to get this going and to continue it. And Trump is continuing what Biden started.
Yes, it would have taken only a phone call, if he had the freedom and mental aptitude to do so. he is cruel man, so don`t think he wanted to stop Netanyahu. but even if I`m wrong and he wanted to stop them, I doubt he would he have be allowed to make the call? Biden was president but he was not in charge. and yes, your correct to point out that Project Ukraine was Biden`s baby from the start, as VP , he was responsible for arming and empowering the Ukrainian Nazis (Azov) , and ensuring NATO Hawks in Europe got lots money to help them cease control of Brussels, Europe collection of psychopath Russophobes is Biden doing, never forget how the leader of Germany stood silent when Biden said they would put an end to NordStream, all these horrible things aside, he is still human being, and if we cheer his death or enjoy satire of his cancer, pis on hos grave, then we too have no humanity
Of course not, and it`s not Karma, it`s just simple fact he is old, he is 83, Biden, Bush Jr,Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland, Obama, Condoleezza Rice, Blinken, Sullivan etc... None of these evil bastards has ever been held responsible for the carnage they have wrought upon the world.
I will not cry when any one of them dies, but I will not cheer either, because at the end of the day they are part of me, they are human, we are the human race, and our sins against our fellowman is not an isolated thing. The sins of US presidents are many, but perhaps none worse than Harry S. Truman.
So you're (note the correct spelling) quite happy, perhaps eager for your tax dollars to be sent to Israel so they can have free healthcare, which Biden approved of, but you and your fellow American citizens cannot?
We don't claim the Republicans either, sweetheart. It's obvious you never paid attention so let me put reality in words even you can understand: BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME!
Instead of coming here and yapping crap, tell your Democratic heroes to STOP acting like Republicans!
You are a Genocide supporter so your opinion is worth less than smeared dog shit on a sidewalk. Biden deserves more pain than this. Biden is also a rapist and a traitor.
Biden was doing quite a commendable job until he went all in funding torture and genocide, and calling himself a Zionist, thereby destroying any good will he had built.
In fact, the reason so many people voted for Trump is BECAUSE Biden didn't do much for the American people (and Trump will be even worse). In Biden's term, inflation rose, inequality grew, police brutalization continued unabated, billionaires increased their wealth by trillions (https://inequality.org/article/billionaire-wealth-up-88-percent-over-four-years/), and more.
There is NO, I repeat ZERO argument to be made that "Biden was doing quite a commendable job" before Oct 7th.
What this thread illustrates for me, Chang, is that Americans have an incredibly large
-- capacity for denial
--addiction to duopoly explanations
It's D then R then D again then R, and not a goddamned thing ever evolves. But to see that the entire enterprise is corrupt, top to bottom, requires the removal of blinders that are apparently glued in place with a high-bond adhesive that no one has yet devised a solvent to remove.
Many of us can see the entire enterprise as corrupt, though not nearly enough. We can also see some large differences between the two parties as currently being displayed now. I voted for Stein since I live in California and it didn't matter, but domestically the current situation is far more disastrous than it would have been if Harris had won. (No change for the hideous plight of the Palestinians of course.) To deny that fact is absurd.
Sorry, I opine that what's absurd is the fact that you tend to
A. downplay the extent to which Democrat politicians are, almost as thoroughly as the other side, bought by (other than pro-Israel) pro-weapons, –Wall Street, and -Pharma, -etc.
I also voted for Jill in NM. Trump is a scumbag. I would gladly run over Elon with a road paver.
B. the extent to which Democrats in power abrogate actual mechanisms of change, mostly floating campaign promises and half-baked fluff. Then re- introducing bills of no hope when Rs take over. Please, this is theater.
And I feel your terror at the descent into Authoritarianism, Fascism if you like. But in my mind, I look at America through the lens of Dallas, November 1963 and personally in Spring 1968 at Columbia University. And it has been a Fascist fucking country for quite some time. But I look at Obama and Biden administrations and I see no reason to hope that a Harris or any status quo politics is going to be "better".
You wanna burn out their eyes, Jenny? Blind leading the blind? I think we already have that here in Murica. Hopeless situation -- too many layers of un-seeing, perception of numerous phantom realities, but rarely anything approaching veritas.
Biden hates ALL Americans. Supported by a gutless Congress, this slimeball glorified murder and mayhem. No sewage plant would want anything to do with this dreg of humanity. He's ugliness personified, the wretched refuse of a nation now showing it's going down, down, down. He's not the only president we've had that detested Americans. Bye, Joe, we'll do our best to remember you as the most hated President in our history.
Yes, he definitely did have some accomplishments and did some good. Biden also made progress on cancelling some student debt, and many other things.
And that's what people need to understand - politics is RARELY a black-and-white issue - there are some positive developments and some negative developments. Though with Trump, for the life of me I can see NO positive accomplishments/developments (unless you are talking about the benefits for the oligarchy, corporations, and tech-bros, and monopolists).
There MAY be unintended consequences (both positive and negative) arising from an administration's policies, but I'm unwilling to give ANY Administration ANY credit for such effects.
“This is the USA’s genocide as much as it is Israel’s.”
Absolutely this. It is also a genocide being committed by Germany, Italy and the UK at the very least, but arguably many other countries supplying the Israeli military with fuel (particularly Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Gabon, Brazil, Nigeria, Republic of the Congo and Italy), munitions, equipment and technology. It is also a genocide being committed by the BBC, The Guardian, German media, and other propaganda organisations outside the US. They are not complicit. They are participants in genocide.
Participants indeed. No other way they can be viewed..
Can I add to that list the Western media of Australia, New Zealand, the UK, France, Canada and Germany. All US puppets, All disgraced. All absolutely complicit.
In my book, they could have made such a difference ..........from day one.
One more comment. The United Nations, Nothing but a social club. Remember the days of "peacekeepers". Now a toothless, disgraced organisation and past their useful life.
Don’t forget Canada’s contribution to the murders. There is no lesser extent. They all knew what they were/are doing and they are all guilty of genocide.
I'm not so sure about that... there are many profitable investments and financial dealings (besides arms) between Europe and Israel, not to mention technology collaboration and more.
Good point. Will we ever get to the stage of finding out if Europe will follow through in cutting-off Israel in the hypothetical world where there are able to shake-off American influence?
True, but then you are characterizing Europe 'as a Dog' - or more acurately - as America's bitch. It does seem that way... maybe America's bitch (Europe) might find a kinder master?
Can’t disagree with you conclusion Caitlin. The US has been a rogue state for 50 years and is unfit to control economic and military hegemony - but the alternatives are arguably even worse…..
No, not 50 years. A few months shy of 80 years. The US became a rogue state on 6 August 1945, and then progressed exponentially in its depraved project on 9 August 1945, and then through the Korean War, the coup d'état in Iran, Guatemala, Indonesia, Greece and Chile, the Vietnam War, funding and arming countless civil wars in Africa, Latin America and Asia, supporting Iraq in its war against Iran, bombing Yugoslavia, and invading Iraq.
As for “the alternatives [being] arguably worse”—this assertion is evidence-free garbage.
Let’s not forget the designing, planning, execution, training of Project Condor to eliminate the “subversive groups” in Argentina helping the military regime to commit a genocide in which 30,000 people were tortured, killed, missing, thrown from airplanes in the ocean, appropriated children after mothers gave birth, tortured children who weighed 25kilograms and up because they could stand the tortures. And today it’s intruding and causing many issues like stealing natural resources and pollution the water.
You're not pushing it back far enough. The Mexican War was the beginning of the Imperial USA. Just like now in Gaza, border raids from Mexico were seized upon as an excuse to take Mexican land. Southern politicians were at the forefront of this, waving the bloody shirt and fantasizing about plantations in California. Then, 15 years later the Northern component of Imperial USA bit them on the ass to get the South's tariff payments and natural resources. Wars are always about getting something.
The public schools deliberately do not teach that history. They also gloss over the US genocide and apartheid against the people known as Native Americans.
As for the generally “nice and polite” Canadians, their treatment of the First Nations people has also been appalling.
This is all consistent with the tactics and strategies of the British Empire during the past five centuries, during which the Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgian and French Empires also perpetrated brutality for economic gains.
Britain, France, Holland, the U.S. and many others who engaged in Imperialism and do to this day are no different now than they have been for centuries. They will not change until they cease to exist. They are all like the scorpion riding on the frog's back. It is their nature because they are scorpions.
I was not suggesting any liking or approval of America’s abuse of power, it’s just that in the same position, I am not sure that China, Russia, or anyone else would necessarily have been more benign. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely - and that applies to any individual, party or organisation. Your summary of atrocities committed by the USA is really understating g the evils of the empire but others would do much the same or worse.
What sort of evidence would make you happy? China committing genocide on the Uigers, India persecuting all non-Hindus, Israel committing genocide on Palestinians, Japanese WWII attrocities?? Hitler’s Germany???To pretend that any of these countries would be a better hegemon is pure speculation on your part. Sorry to rain on your party.
If you cannot comprehend that the global scale of atrocities committed by the US since 6 August 1945 are many orders of magnitude larger than anything you cite, I’m clearly wasting my time engaging with you.
I have been to Urumqi to see my niece. She speaks fluent Mandarin and Uighur and resided there for five years studying the situation. She and I saw repression. All Uighur renters had to leave Urumqi. There were police everywhere. We heard propaganda. But genocide? Not a trace of that.
China invaded Tibet in 1951 and is still there. They invaded Vietnam in 1979 but failed totally. The western regions of China broke away during World War II and the Communist revolution but were too weak to maintain their independence. China is an empire and has been so for a very long time. Not as aggressive as other empires but an empire nevertheless.
Certainly a nation that occupies other nations in order to exploit them economically. Lately they are able to exploit without actually occupying, by bribing and threatening those in charge.
What you say may be true, but it is not relevant to the situation today. This kind of academic talk distracts from the reality of what the USA is doing and has been doing since its founding. This kind of talk only leads to “if it hadn’t been them it would have been somebody else, nothing we can do, the way of the world, got to get back to enjoying my life”. Not to forget, that if power corrupts, your god appears to have a lot of power, is your next life under him going to be as bad as it is under the power-mongers in this life?
That just is semantics, America is doing this right now and has ever since Biden met Golda Meir, it could have been stopped by the next president but it went on and on, until it boosted Usraelinyo believing it was untouchable, just like the nazis thought.
Canada hasn't, New Zealand hasn't, Australia hasn't. True they held down the indigenous peoples for decades but are trying, especially progressive governments, to repair that.
If they were aware of Israelis genocidal intentions and still backed them then they deserve as much shit poured on them as Israel though none were so racist that they reduced themselves to such depravity as America with regard to Israel.
Canada has certainly participated in the genocide of Palestinians. My country supplied weapons parts and even after agreeing to stop, sent weapon propellants. I think you give to much credit to our governments’ efforts to reconcile with the indigenous peoples - it’s mostly window-dressing.
How is the Korean War an imperial project? It was defense from a truly unprovoked surprise attack by an entity so evil that many North Korean prisoners of war petitioned to remain in the South.
It is true that MacArthur wanted to subjugate China but that didn't happen.
Hope dare I hope to ascend to such an erudite and refined level of debate? To alleviate my shame at being so bested I feel I have no alternative other than to block you.
How dare hope to ever ascend to such an erudite and refined level of debate? To limit my shame at being so sorely bested I have no alternative other than to block you.
This argument is very common. Let's take a look at it. I would earthily rephrase it as "what we do may be wicked, but foreigners are even more wicked so it is the lesser evil." I say that this doesn't withstand even a cursory analysis. Since World War II who has inflicted the greatest evil upon the world? The USA, hands down. Just look at El Salvador or Gaza. Barf out.
Don't believe me? How about this :
"If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances." -- Senator Harry Truman, June 24th, 1941.
The US gvt found this "kill as many as possible" (how evil can you get?) plan so appealing they made Harry President. Today we see this exact same strategy playing out in Ukraine. Nothing has changed. I don't see any other country doing such evil things. They are instead building towards prosperity. I say that that is the better choice.
OK, let's try that again. How about "evil is going to rule the world. Better it be us on top than pushed around by wicked foreigners." That makes sense. It's essentially what John Mearsheimer calls his "realism." Using this theory John is very good at predicting what nations will do, so I think he is correct in believing this is what is really going on. What I don't like about it is that it's a self-fulfilling belief. If you believe it inevitable that wickedness rule the world, then rule the world it shall. Forever. This seems to me like a bad plan. Instead I suggest giving peace a chance. If it doesn't work out you can always revert to the war thang, so what have you got to lose?
Today the USA's plan seems to be "we're getting beat in our own game so let's kick over the chessboard and have da boys take care of dose upstarts in da alley." We're losing a fair fight so let's screw up the world and hope that it works to our advantage. Well maybe that will work but I think it a lot more likely it will work to the advantage of BRICS, accelerating the decline of the USA hegemonic power. In a way I see this as a good thing. Get it over with. On the the other hand, if the wars really get going they will leave behind a legacy of hate and resentment that will last for at least eighty years. Very bad idea.
Here's another way to look at it. I remember when the neoliberal globalization thang began. They told us it would lead to world peace. Nations would all be prosperous so there would be no motivation towards the for-profit wars that plagued Europe for millennia. What's more, nations would be so tightly interconnected economically that it would be nuts to make war on each other. You can't make war on you own economic base. It was working too. Then They got scared. We won't be able to make war anymore! OMG! Fun's over. We'd better reverse all this, pronto. And that's what They are doing.
Going a little further, I think what really sparked the current USA animus toward China was China's successful anti-corruption initiative. The neoliberal plan was a fake. What They really wanted to do was to bribe the Chinese government to keep China in poverty forever. Once that lever was lost then war was the only way to keep on top. But this is a bad plan.
The USA's strategic position in any such potential war is weak, loser. They can't win. The only explanation I can come up with is that the true motive isn't the national interest, the true motive is profit for a few, employment for the many. Then it all makes sense. That this plan will lead to a gargantuan self own doesn't matter in the short term. The military has a large block of votes so giving them a raise gets you re-elected. That's what they really care about. So war we shall have. George Orwell's 1984 vision of perpetual war in a zone reaching from the Philippines to eastern Europe has become our reality. Domestic politics becomes closer and closer to martial law until some day they will be one and the same. Big Brother has put on his big boots and is walking the Earth. If you don't like this then some fine day he may come knocking on your door. Better hope it isn't 4am.
think it a lot more likely it will work to the advantage of BRICS, accelerating the decline of the USA hegemonic power. In a way I see this as a good thing. Get it over with. On the the other hand, if the wars really get going they will leave behind a legacy of hate and resentment that will last for at least eighty years. Bad idea.
Here's another way to look at it. I remember when the neoliberal globalization thang began. They told us it would lead to world peace. Nations would all be prosperous so there would be no motivation towards the for-profit wars that plagued Europe for millennia. What's more, nations would be so tightly interconnected economically that it would be nuts to make war on each other. You can't make war on you own economic base. It was working too. Then They got scared. We won't be able to make war anymore! OMG! Fun's over. We'd better reverse all this, pronto. And that's what They are doing.
Going a little further, I think what really sparked the current USA animus toward China was China's successful anti-corruption initiative. The neoliberal plan was a fake. What They really wanted to do was to bribe the Chinese government to keep China in poverty forever. Once that lever was lost then war was the only way to keep on top. But this is a bad plan. The USA's strategic position in any such potential war is weak, loser. They can't win. The only explanation I can come up with is that the true motive isn't the national interest, the true motive is profit for a few, employment for the many. Then it all makes sense. That this plan will lead to a gargantuan self own doesn't matter in the short term. The military has a quite large block of votes so giving them a raise gets you re-elected. In most districts voting for a pay cut would cost you your job. That's what our “leaders” really care about. Such massive wasteful spending while standards of living decline is unpopular so war is need to justify such policy. Therefore war we shall have. George Orwell's 1984 vision of perpetual war in a zone reaching from the Philippines to eastern Europe has become our reality. Domestic practice grows ever closer and closer to martial law until some day they will be one and the same. Big Brother has put on his big boots and is walking the Earth. If you don't like this then some fine day he may come knocking on your door. Better hope it isn't 4am.
The US has been bad for the world on balance over the last 100 years.
My point is that any global power could have been worse because when thee is no constraint, bad things happen. It is silly to suggest an alternative to where we are because New Zealand or Canada or Australia are never going to be the moral leaders in the world. Being the economic and military hegemon almost guarantees that morality and ethics dies on the alter of money & power. Show me a parliamentary representative that is not corrupt or compromised......
During the last election, an American journalistic observer stated that the continuation of the weapons deliveries would continue to Israel because the "influenced" politicians level was 86% in Israel's favour. Other comments resulted from that but the source escapes me, Glenn. Four months ago. A long time in an old memory.
I think it would be close to right based on the information on the web but if I find it is a higher percentage, which is likely in May, 2025, four months into the Trump reign, I will advise. Suffice to say, it is very high and there doesn't seem to have been a single Israel supporting item that has extracted an objection from either house. As for the number of AIPAC approved (nominated, supported)staff in each office, likely to be high on best accounting, the number is unknown to me.
May have to wait until the next AIPAC meeting to see who attends. I think this was the basis for the previous estimation and perhaps, a little bit of guesswork.
Not an accurate answer but you are the first to question it.
It is the same as challenging the 97% Israel public support Netanyahu has based on Caitlin's source. It is always difficult to confirm.
I was not questioning the likelihood that it’s an accurate number - it is just frightening to think that US democracy has been bought.
Trump has a Jew in the family and the US religious establishment have some pretty twisted theology around the “sanctity” of Israel. The US is in fact the new Israel. Look out world!!
"The argument for the US-led world order is over. It’s done..... Humanity has no future if these monsters are left in charge".
This should be the rallying cry for what is left of humanity - of those who didn't follow the monsters - after Israel/USA/West have made a graveyard of Gaza, drenched in the blood of innocents.
"Biden’s victims matter more than the rules of imperial etiquette. "
Damn right they do! Perhaps Biden's imminent nasty death from cancer is divine retribution for all the evil he committed during his political career. From the Crime Bill to the Genocide in Gaza, Biden has been on the wrong side of history every step of the way. May his name be associated with the likes of Hitler and Pol Pot forever.
No Biden has not been on the wrong side every step of the way. Not by a long shot. But he irredeemably fucked up in Gaza, along with the majority of the Democratic party.
So, Joe Biden sexual assaulting his congressional intern, Tara Reade, is "okay" by you? The hair sniffing of little children and the unwanted touches from Biden they've endured is "okay" with you? Biden's Crime Bill which has locked up many innocent people whose only crime was their African American ancestry is "okay" by you? Joe Biden harassing Anita Hill while she was giving testimony and thereby letting arch-conservative Clarence Thomas become a Supreme Court justice is "okay" by you? You've got some pretty weird morals to find all these despicable things Biden has done "okay".
You seem to be saying here that Biden "fucked up in Gaza" which isn't exactly saying that you disagree with him aiding and abetting a genocide in Gaza. You're just angry that Biden has revealed the corruption inherent in the duopoly/DNC more than anything apparently. Some pretty weird morals you got there.
It is sad that Biden is going to die a slow, painful death. I am not happy that is happening, but I don't really care. He has never done anything that would cause me to care. I am no longer surprised by the statements from Zionist Israelis, Americans and Europeans that killing Gazans does not matter to anyone. It just makes me feel sick and angry. And a little afraid. I am not even sure that American, British or European withholding of arms would stop those maniacs. It seems that the government of India would help them to murder Palestinians if asked to do so.
You have no idea what I understand or what I do not understand. I don't like Biden and his ilk, but I refuse to become like them and see anyone's pain and suffering as OK. I can't say as I care much, but it is sad when anyone of any kind suffers. The murders of the Palestinian people is, for me, almost beyond being able to cope with. It is incredibly painful to see that our world has become so inhumane and ugly.
His death won't be PAINFUL Susan. I am sure he will have whatever pain killers he wants, unlike my young friend who just died in the USA without enough painkillers.
Yes, you are probably right. I hope he at least feels enough pain so that it gets through to his elitist numb brain what he has been part of creating for the American people.
Imagine being that old and still support an injustice…Him and his administration chose to gaslight us. It was as if he believed that time had rendered him immune to accountability, cloaked in years of experience and authority…
Yep. And then along came Karma at greater speed than usual, probably because of the magnitude of his crimes. This is the forerunner of what's coming to Israel.
Amazing how Biden was diagnosed with cancer days after MSM had no choice but to admit they had had been complicit in covering up his obvious dementia. The finger-pointing and accusations and counter-accusations would be hilarious farce if it the consequences weren’t so grim for the rest of us.
Good people who have no power at all are trying to stop this massacre. That our “leaders” feel completely free to ignore demonstrations, the World court and worldwide outrage should tell us everything we need to know about who’s really in charge. They’re not going to stop until they’ve killed everyone they want to and stolen everything they can.
SW, did you hear the one about Karim Kahn of the UN ( ICC Chief prosecutor ), who issued the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu ... the latest is that he had to step down charged with sexual harassment, based on a Wall Street Journal investigation.
Go, Joe, go: straight to the cesspool of history, you genocidal piece of excrement. Next up, Naziyahu.
The United States of America has long been subsumed by cancer, an invasive, malignant, and metastasizing disease known as Israel.
The real cancer is Capitalism, Israel is just a symptom of it.
Ultimately.
Excellent analogy. And because of those tumor metastases -- AIPAC, ADL, JDL, et, al. -- removing that cancer seems a pretty grim proposition.
Hi W.F.
Karma hard at work here.
And I don’t give a flying fuck about his “confessions” to a priest, or his “Last Rites”: Genocide Joe’s eternity will be spent wandering a desolate landscape strewn with the corpses he created, and useless AIPAC dollars that he cannot use to buy his way out of the hell he created for himself.
No. Sorry, but the idea of a hell is a social control mechanism to convince you there is an ultimate justice some powerful god will do for you. so you cannot do it yourself. It's a trick created by the elite millennia ago to let them live out their lives of excess they stole from everyone.
Doesn’t Netanyahu also have prostate cancer?
US pols are useful only to
1. Spread dissension among the proles in order to manipulate their duopoly voting over meaningless crap while ignoring genocide
2. Accept graft to more efficiently perform #1 -- and of course to
3 Spread the propaganda and terrorism of the imperialist empire throughout the world, while labeling innocents as terrorists.
Joe Biden was a prime exemplar. Burn in hell, Joe
All you fucking people are jerks, you all deserve being associated with the republicon party. Biden inherited a shit economy because of mango Mussolini. But you're to fucking stupid to know it.
What has the economy to do with Biden's full throated embrace and support of the Israeli genocide? Billions to starve, bomb, burn, shoot and bury mostly women and children.
It pales by comparison, but Biden was largely responsible for the bankruptcy bill that prevented debt forgiveness for average Americans declaring personal bankruptcy, while corporate bankruptcies sail on through with all debts erased. That was typical of Biden's contributions to the economy - suffering for most Americans; more benefits for his billionaire cohorts.
Slight correction: Biden's bankruptcy bill targeted only one aspect of debt - educational/student loans - making it harder to discharge these loans.
In terms of corporate bankruptcies, there are 2 primary ones - chapter 7 and chapter 11. And NO, is is NOT "sail on through with all debts erased". The corporation has to sell-off all its assets to pay the debts (in a certain pecking order) or re-organize/re-finance its debts (if it wishes to continue to exist).
Corporate Bankruptcy: How It Works, What It Means for Investors (https://www.investopedia.com/articles/01/120501.asp)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy_Abuse_Prevention_and_Consumer_Protection_Act
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (BAPCPA)
Yes, I know that, my comment was about the "incorrect framing" in your comment pertaining to corporate bankruptcies.
Biden enabled a genocide on behalf of Netanyahu. I’m afraid your hero is a war criminal.
No one is disputing that he inherited a mess but when he was elected there wasn’t a genocide. HE is responsible for the deaths of at least 250K people half of which are women and children and he didn’t give a fuck. He gave Bibi weapons and money to get this going and to continue it. And Trump is continuing what Biden started.
ONE telephone call. No more Arms for Israel. That is all Biden needed to do.
Who started the Ukraine Mess?
Yes, it would have taken only a phone call, if he had the freedom and mental aptitude to do so. he is cruel man, so don`t think he wanted to stop Netanyahu. but even if I`m wrong and he wanted to stop them, I doubt he would he have be allowed to make the call? Biden was president but he was not in charge. and yes, your correct to point out that Project Ukraine was Biden`s baby from the start, as VP , he was responsible for arming and empowering the Ukrainian Nazis (Azov) , and ensuring NATO Hawks in Europe got lots money to help them cease control of Brussels, Europe collection of psychopath Russophobes is Biden doing, never forget how the leader of Germany stood silent when Biden said they would put an end to NordStream, all these horrible things aside, he is still human being, and if we cheer his death or enjoy satire of his cancer, pis on hos grave, then we too have no humanity
I understand what you are saying tre peperoncini. But he is not going to end up in Jail is he? Karma
Of course not, and it`s not Karma, it`s just simple fact he is old, he is 83, Biden, Bush Jr,Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland, Obama, Condoleezza Rice, Blinken, Sullivan etc... None of these evil bastards has ever been held responsible for the carnage they have wrought upon the world.
I will not cry when any one of them dies, but I will not cheer either, because at the end of the day they are part of me, they are human, we are the human race, and our sins against our fellowman is not an isolated thing. The sins of US presidents are many, but perhaps none worse than Harry S. Truman.
No humanity. Ha! What a laugh. I want justice, cold hard vengeance fuck humanity.
I was going laugh at your oxymoronic comment, but its just too depressing, you so vividly demonstrate the idiocy of so many hypocritical minds.
The correct form of the word is "too". I don't bother with fucktards who can't speak my language. Forse parliamo italiano cazzo-testa?
Si dice "testa di cazzo"
Grazie, sono stato stanco ed anche arrabiato a quello cretino.
Hai fatto benissimo.
So you're (note the correct spelling) quite happy, perhaps eager for your tax dollars to be sent to Israel so they can have free healthcare, which Biden approved of, but you and your fellow American citizens cannot?
Davina
Now that's a valid comment
That has nothing whatsoever to do with his support for genocide. Not a thing.
Shut up pro-rape sim of bitch! Shut up genocide supporter 🤮
No, I won't, and you can't make me. Go boil your backside. I do not support rape or genocide, which is why I hate Israel.
Yeah, you support the one enable it and support it. Bravo
You will meet god soon and you will know what you did
There is no god. Grow TF up.
Happy to be called a Jerk by you James. This is the MOST egregious CRIME in History. No 'scapegoating.'
What's coming for you people is going to be BAD.
We don't claim the Republicans either, sweetheart. It's obvious you never paid attention so let me put reality in words even you can understand: BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME!
Instead of coming here and yapping crap, tell your Democratic heroes to STOP acting like Republicans!
Shut up you pro-tape Zionist creature. Fuck you and fuck Biden. You both will burn in HeELL
You are a Genocide supporter so your opinion is worth less than smeared dog shit on a sidewalk. Biden deserves more pain than this. Biden is also a rapist and a traitor.
Just what the fuck are you “feeding your head” with, wanker?
Oh look, another asinine D No Matter Who! 😂
@James Young
blocked
fuck you genocide supporting cuck
Sticks and stones. Anything to say about Biden’s complicity in genocide?
You’re obviously a soulless bastard!
Biden was doing quite a commendable job until he went all in funding torture and genocide, and calling himself a Zionist, thereby destroying any good will he had built.
Did you forget about the Ukraine war? NATO expansion? Anti-China foreign policy? And don't forget that Biden deported more immigrants than Trump (US deportations under Biden surpass Trump's record -> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o) or (Comparing the Biden and Trump Deportation Records -> https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record)
Biden messed up the Afghanistan withdrawal, kept the same increased trade tariffs from the Trump term, knifed labor unions in the back (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/01/joe-biden-rail-strike-labor-unions), and did NOTHING to combat INFLATION.
In fact, the reason so many people voted for Trump is BECAUSE Biden didn't do much for the American people (and Trump will be even worse). In Biden's term, inflation rose, inequality grew, police brutalization continued unabated, billionaires increased their wealth by trillions (https://inequality.org/article/billionaire-wealth-up-88-percent-over-four-years/), and more.
There is NO, I repeat ZERO argument to be made that "Biden was doing quite a commendable job" before Oct 7th.
What this thread illustrates for me, Chang, is that Americans have an incredibly large
-- capacity for denial
--addiction to duopoly explanations
It's D then R then D again then R, and not a goddamned thing ever evolves. But to see that the entire enterprise is corrupt, top to bottom, requires the removal of blinders that are apparently glued in place with a high-bond adhesive that no one has yet devised a solvent to remove.
Many of us can see the entire enterprise as corrupt, though not nearly enough. We can also see some large differences between the two parties as currently being displayed now. I voted for Stein since I live in California and it didn't matter, but domestically the current situation is far more disastrous than it would have been if Harris had won. (No change for the hideous plight of the Palestinians of course.) To deny that fact is absurd.
Sorry, I opine that what's absurd is the fact that you tend to
A. downplay the extent to which Democrat politicians are, almost as thoroughly as the other side, bought by (other than pro-Israel) pro-weapons, –Wall Street, and -Pharma, -etc.
I also voted for Jill in NM. Trump is a scumbag. I would gladly run over Elon with a road paver.
B. the extent to which Democrats in power abrogate actual mechanisms of change, mostly floating campaign promises and half-baked fluff. Then re- introducing bills of no hope when Rs take over. Please, this is theater.
And I feel your terror at the descent into Authoritarianism, Fascism if you like. But in my mind, I look at America through the lens of Dallas, November 1963 and personally in Spring 1968 at Columbia University. And it has been a Fascist fucking country for quite some time. But I look at Obama and Biden administrations and I see no reason to hope that a Harris or any status quo politics is going to be "better".
Acid might do the job?
You wanna burn out their eyes, Jenny? Blind leading the blind? I think we already have that here in Murica. Hopeless situation -- too many layers of un-seeing, perception of numerous phantom realities, but rarely anything approaching veritas.
Maybe LSD would help.
Biden hates ALL Americans. Supported by a gutless Congress, this slimeball glorified murder and mayhem. No sewage plant would want anything to do with this dreg of humanity. He's ugliness personified, the wretched refuse of a nation now showing it's going down, down, down. He's not the only president we've had that detested Americans. Bye, Joe, we'll do our best to remember you as the most hated President in our history.
Ok, but he did have some accomplishment.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/395517/joe-biden-food-stamps-snap-legacy
https://navigatorresearch.org/lowering-drug-prices-and-investing-in-infrastructure-are-most-popular-and-known-biden-accomplishments/
Yes, he definitely did have some accomplishments and did some good. Biden also made progress on cancelling some student debt, and many other things.
And that's what people need to understand - politics is RARELY a black-and-white issue - there are some positive developments and some negative developments. Though with Trump, for the life of me I can see NO positive accomplishments/developments (unless you are talking about the benefits for the oligarchy, corporations, and tech-bros, and monopolists).
There MAY be unintended consequences (both positive and negative) arising from an administration's policies, but I'm unwilling to give ANY Administration ANY credit for such effects.
Well I feel that way about Ukraine. Plenty of blame on both Putin and Biden. I know that's not a popular viewpoint on this substack.
“This is the USA’s genocide as much as it is Israel’s.”
Absolutely this. It is also a genocide being committed by Germany, Italy and the UK at the very least, but arguably many other countries supplying the Israeli military with fuel (particularly Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Gabon, Brazil, Nigeria, Republic of the Congo and Italy), munitions, equipment and technology. It is also a genocide being committed by the BBC, The Guardian, German media, and other propaganda organisations outside the US. They are not complicit. They are participants in genocide.
Every genocide needs a propaganda arm.
Right Megan Baker. The propaganda arm of Israel/US/West is as effective as Leni Riefenstahl was for Hitler and the Nazis. ...
They also need opposition to rise up much faster that in this current horror.
Stephen Walker
Participants indeed. No other way they can be viewed..
Can I add to that list the Western media of Australia, New Zealand, the UK, France, Canada and Germany. All US puppets, All disgraced. All absolutely complicit.
In my book, they could have made such a difference ..........from day one.
One more comment. The United Nations, Nothing but a social club. Remember the days of "peacekeepers". Now a toothless, disgraced organisation and past their useful life.
Don’t forget Canada’s contribution to the murders. There is no lesser extent. They all knew what they were/are doing and they are all guilty of genocide.
I can guarantee that the europeans would drop Israel like a hot turd, if they could do so without incurring the wrath of their American Master.
Into the litter box with all of ‘em, Feral! 😸
I'm not so sure about that... there are many profitable investments and financial dealings (besides arms) between Europe and Israel, not to mention technology collaboration and more.
There are a lot more deals with China, but that doesn't stop europeans from following American orders.
Good point. Will we ever get to the stage of finding out if Europe will follow through in cutting-off Israel in the hypothetical world where there are able to shake-off American influence?
A dog doesn't fear Master's beatings so much as the dog fears abandonment, having no Master.
True, but then you are characterizing Europe 'as a Dog' - or more acurately - as America's bitch. It does seem that way... maybe America's bitch (Europe) might find a kinder master?
Yes, hope he’ll meet burning 🔥 very soon. No merci for genocidaires.
Your a jerkette. I hope you meet a burning hell yourself.
You are = You're. Please learn to write the English language properly or else we'll have ICE deport you to your country of origin, Assholistan.
Assholistan. Excellent.
😂
The correct form of the word is "You're". Go the fuck away.
Never!! Get out zi@n4zi!
Found the Ziofilth
And YOU JAMES are a motherfucking son of a whore.
“Jerkette”…. LMFAO… is that the best ya got?
youre a fucking retarded shitlib cuck. run along, your propaganda is probably on msnbc, yoire missing it
Can’t disagree with you conclusion Caitlin. The US has been a rogue state for 50 years and is unfit to control economic and military hegemony - but the alternatives are arguably even worse…..
No, not 50 years. A few months shy of 80 years. The US became a rogue state on 6 August 1945, and then progressed exponentially in its depraved project on 9 August 1945, and then through the Korean War, the coup d'état in Iran, Guatemala, Indonesia, Greece and Chile, the Vietnam War, funding and arming countless civil wars in Africa, Latin America and Asia, supporting Iraq in its war against Iran, bombing Yugoslavia, and invading Iraq.
As for “the alternatives [being] arguably worse”—this assertion is evidence-free garbage.
Let’s not forget the designing, planning, execution, training of Project Condor to eliminate the “subversive groups” in Argentina helping the military regime to commit a genocide in which 30,000 people were tortured, killed, missing, thrown from airplanes in the ocean, appropriated children after mothers gave birth, tortured children who weighed 25kilograms and up because they could stand the tortures. And today it’s intruding and causing many issues like stealing natural resources and pollution the water.
Chile. People were just disappeared!
Bolivia, Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay too.
You're not pushing it back far enough. The Mexican War was the beginning of the Imperial USA. Just like now in Gaza, border raids from Mexico were seized upon as an excuse to take Mexican land. Southern politicians were at the forefront of this, waving the bloody shirt and fantasizing about plantations in California. Then, 15 years later the Northern component of Imperial USA bit them on the ass to get the South's tariff payments and natural resources. Wars are always about getting something.
Stephen Walker,
The public schools deliberately do not teach that history. They also gloss over the US genocide and apartheid against the people known as Native Americans.
As for the generally “nice and polite” Canadians, their treatment of the First Nations people has also been appalling.
This is all consistent with the tactics and strategies of the British Empire during the past five centuries, during which the Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgian and French Empires also perpetrated brutality for economic gains.
Britain, France, Holland, the U.S. and many others who engaged in Imperialism and do to this day are no different now than they have been for centuries. They will not change until they cease to exist. They are all like the scorpion riding on the frog's back. It is their nature because they are scorpions.
I think the USA became a rogue state on July 4, 1776. It has been imperialist and expansionist since day one.
It's probably why USA and Israel became immediate BFFs, they both were built on imperialism and suffering of others.
Native Americans: fighting terrorism since 1492.
Hell yeah. The only nobility this country has ever really known.
I 100% agree.
1619?
I was not suggesting any liking or approval of America’s abuse of power, it’s just that in the same position, I am not sure that China, Russia, or anyone else would necessarily have been more benign. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely - and that applies to any individual, party or organisation. Your summary of atrocities committed by the USA is really understating g the evils of the empire but others would do much the same or worse.
“but others would do much the same or worse”
Evidence-free nonsense.
What sort of evidence would make you happy? China committing genocide on the Uigers, India persecuting all non-Hindus, Israel committing genocide on Palestinians, Japanese WWII attrocities?? Hitler’s Germany???To pretend that any of these countries would be a better hegemon is pure speculation on your part. Sorry to rain on your party.
If you cannot comprehend that the global scale of atrocities committed by the US since 6 August 1945 are many orders of magnitude larger than anything you cite, I’m clearly wasting my time engaging with you.
Stephen
I am confused by your logic.
Are you saying that no country could do worse than the US?
My point is that power corrupts and it could manifest through any country that wielded the power that the US has.
Only very recently has China emerged as a threat to US hegemony.
Would you really think that a state like China would act morally and ethically as the sole global hegemon.
Ditto for Russia should it regain its former status.
I would add that this is a pointless to speculate because we don't know the future.
Evil seems to be on the rise just as Christianity is abandoned.
How ironic that the US is nominally Christian.
Emphasis on nominally!
Abandon God and abandon all hope.
Strange that the Uigurs were in Putin's parade, smiling and singing.
Strange indeed ????
I have been to Urumqi to see my niece. She speaks fluent Mandarin and Uighur and resided there for five years studying the situation. She and I saw repression. All Uighur renters had to leave Urumqi. There were police everywhere. We heard propaganda. But genocide? Not a trace of that.
Tell me: When has China invaded another Country OR Russia.......and please don't tell me that Russia was not provoked!
China invaded Tibet in 1951 and is still there. They invaded Vietnam in 1979 but failed totally. The western regions of China broke away during World War II and the Communist revolution but were too weak to maintain their independence. China is an empire and has been so for a very long time. Not as aggressive as other empires but an empire nevertheless.
Question is what do you call an Empire?
Certainly a nation that occupies other nations in order to exploit them economically. Lately they are able to exploit without actually occupying, by bribing and threatening those in charge.
You miss my point.
These countries have not had the dominant position of the US.
If they did, how on earth could you assume that they would not abuse their hegemonic power.
If the US could not be trusted not to abuse its power, tell me why you think China or Russia would be a better option.
There is no evidence, but the way China, India and Russia are going, we may find out.
A multi-polar world may restore balance and eliminate hegemonic abuse.
Bring it on…..
What you say may be true, but it is not relevant to the situation today. This kind of academic talk distracts from the reality of what the USA is doing and has been doing since its founding. This kind of talk only leads to “if it hadn’t been them it would have been somebody else, nothing we can do, the way of the world, got to get back to enjoying my life”. Not to forget, that if power corrupts, your god appears to have a lot of power, is your next life under him going to be as bad as it is under the power-mongers in this life?
Well said Ron Stockton. U.S. Empire Apologists always come up with 'if not us then someone else, hence why not us' rationalization.
Anything's possible Glenn.
That just is semantics, America is doing this right now and has ever since Biden met Golda Meir, it could have been stopped by the next president but it went on and on, until it boosted Usraelinyo believing it was untouchable, just like the nazis thought.
They are so much more benign, it’s not a comparison.
Canada hasn't, New Zealand hasn't, Australia hasn't. True they held down the indigenous peoples for decades but are trying, especially progressive governments, to repair that.
If they were aware of Israelis genocidal intentions and still backed them then they deserve as much shit poured on them as Israel though none were so racist that they reduced themselves to such depravity as America with regard to Israel.
Canada has certainly participated in the genocide of Palestinians. My country supplied weapons parts and even after agreeing to stop, sent weapon propellants. I think you give to much credit to our governments’ efforts to reconcile with the indigenous peoples - it’s mostly window-dressing.
How is the Korean War an imperial project? It was defense from a truly unprovoked surprise attack by an entity so evil that many North Korean prisoners of war petitioned to remain in the South.
It is true that MacArthur wanted to subjugate China but that didn't happen.
Fuck off idiot. You don’t have a fucking clue.
Hope dare I hope to ascend to such an erudite and refined level of debate? To alleviate my shame at being so bested I feel I have no alternative other than to block you.
How dare hope to ever ascend to such an erudite and refined level of debate? To limit my shame at being so sorely bested I have no alternative other than to block you.
Or perhaps being rogue goes with being a state, so that it is actually 249 years . . .
What alternatives are worse than the single most evil empire that’s ever existed?
Don't know until you try them. . . . But then,that's what I was thinking when I considered Trump couldn't be worse than Biden/Harris.
Why? What alternative you have in mind? It seems US cannot compete honestly anymore, but military.
True enough. But being outlasted by Afghanistan and beaten by Yemen even brings their military into question.
"the alternatives are arguably even worse"
This argument is very common. Let's take a look at it. I would earthily rephrase it as "what we do may be wicked, but foreigners are even more wicked so it is the lesser evil." I say that this doesn't withstand even a cursory analysis. Since World War II who has inflicted the greatest evil upon the world? The USA, hands down. Just look at El Salvador or Gaza. Barf out.
Don't believe me? How about this :
"If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances." -- Senator Harry Truman, June 24th, 1941.
The US gvt found this "kill as many as possible" (how evil can you get?) plan so appealing they made Harry President. Today we see this exact same strategy playing out in Ukraine. Nothing has changed. I don't see any other country doing such evil things. They are instead building towards prosperity. I say that that is the better choice.
OK, let's try that again. How about "evil is going to rule the world. Better it be us on top than pushed around by wicked foreigners." That makes sense. It's essentially what John Mearsheimer calls his "realism." Using this theory John is very good at predicting what nations will do, so I think he is correct in believing this is what is really going on. What I don't like about it is that it's a self-fulfilling belief. If you believe it inevitable that wickedness rule the world, then rule the world it shall. Forever. This seems to me like a bad plan. Instead I suggest giving peace a chance. If it doesn't work out you can always revert to the war thang, so what have you got to lose?
Today the USA's plan seems to be "we're getting beat in our own game so let's kick over the chessboard and have da boys take care of dose upstarts in da alley." We're losing a fair fight so let's screw up the world and hope that it works to our advantage. Well maybe that will work but I think it a lot more likely it will work to the advantage of BRICS, accelerating the decline of the USA hegemonic power. In a way I see this as a good thing. Get it over with. On the the other hand, if the wars really get going they will leave behind a legacy of hate and resentment that will last for at least eighty years. Very bad idea.
Here's another way to look at it. I remember when the neoliberal globalization thang began. They told us it would lead to world peace. Nations would all be prosperous so there would be no motivation towards the for-profit wars that plagued Europe for millennia. What's more, nations would be so tightly interconnected economically that it would be nuts to make war on each other. You can't make war on you own economic base. It was working too. Then They got scared. We won't be able to make war anymore! OMG! Fun's over. We'd better reverse all this, pronto. And that's what They are doing.
Going a little further, I think what really sparked the current USA animus toward China was China's successful anti-corruption initiative. The neoliberal plan was a fake. What They really wanted to do was to bribe the Chinese government to keep China in poverty forever. Once that lever was lost then war was the only way to keep on top. But this is a bad plan.
The USA's strategic position in any such potential war is weak, loser. They can't win. The only explanation I can come up with is that the true motive isn't the national interest, the true motive is profit for a few, employment for the many. Then it all makes sense. That this plan will lead to a gargantuan self own doesn't matter in the short term. The military has a large block of votes so giving them a raise gets you re-elected. That's what they really care about. So war we shall have. George Orwell's 1984 vision of perpetual war in a zone reaching from the Philippines to eastern Europe has become our reality. Domestic politics becomes closer and closer to martial law until some day they will be one and the same. Big Brother has put on his big boots and is walking the Earth. If you don't like this then some fine day he may come knocking on your door. Better hope it isn't 4am.
think it a lot more likely it will work to the advantage of BRICS, accelerating the decline of the USA hegemonic power. In a way I see this as a good thing. Get it over with. On the the other hand, if the wars really get going they will leave behind a legacy of hate and resentment that will last for at least eighty years. Bad idea.
Here's another way to look at it. I remember when the neoliberal globalization thang began. They told us it would lead to world peace. Nations would all be prosperous so there would be no motivation towards the for-profit wars that plagued Europe for millennia. What's more, nations would be so tightly interconnected economically that it would be nuts to make war on each other. You can't make war on you own economic base. It was working too. Then They got scared. We won't be able to make war anymore! OMG! Fun's over. We'd better reverse all this, pronto. And that's what They are doing.
Going a little further, I think what really sparked the current USA animus toward China was China's successful anti-corruption initiative. The neoliberal plan was a fake. What They really wanted to do was to bribe the Chinese government to keep China in poverty forever. Once that lever was lost then war was the only way to keep on top. But this is a bad plan. The USA's strategic position in any such potential war is weak, loser. They can't win. The only explanation I can come up with is that the true motive isn't the national interest, the true motive is profit for a few, employment for the many. Then it all makes sense. That this plan will lead to a gargantuan self own doesn't matter in the short term. The military has a quite large block of votes so giving them a raise gets you re-elected. In most districts voting for a pay cut would cost you your job. That's what our “leaders” really care about. Such massive wasteful spending while standards of living decline is unpopular so war is need to justify such policy. Therefore war we shall have. George Orwell's 1984 vision of perpetual war in a zone reaching from the Philippines to eastern Europe has become our reality. Domestic practice grows ever closer and closer to martial law until some day they will be one and the same. Big Brother has put on his big boots and is walking the Earth. If you don't like this then some fine day he may come knocking on your door. Better hope it isn't 4am.
Glenn
Respectfully. I would welcome a couple of your alternative examples. Seriously.
Contrarian
I think you may misunderstand my point.
The US has been bad for the world on balance over the last 100 years.
My point is that any global power could have been worse because when thee is no constraint, bad things happen. It is silly to suggest an alternative to where we are because New Zealand or Canada or Australia are never going to be the moral leaders in the world. Being the economic and military hegemon almost guarantees that morality and ethics dies on the alter of money & power. Show me a parliamentary representative that is not corrupt or compromised......
Glenn,
While the USA sits at 86% Israel owned (therefore corrupted AND compromised) I am unable to answer your request. Sorry.
How is US 86% owned by Israel? I am not disputing just curious how you come up with that number.
Thanks.
Glenn
During the last election, an American journalistic observer stated that the continuation of the weapons deliveries would continue to Israel because the "influenced" politicians level was 86% in Israel's favour. Other comments resulted from that but the source escapes me, Glenn. Four months ago. A long time in an old memory.
I think it would be close to right based on the information on the web but if I find it is a higher percentage, which is likely in May, 2025, four months into the Trump reign, I will advise. Suffice to say, it is very high and there doesn't seem to have been a single Israel supporting item that has extracted an objection from either house. As for the number of AIPAC approved (nominated, supported)staff in each office, likely to be high on best accounting, the number is unknown to me.
May have to wait until the next AIPAC meeting to see who attends. I think this was the basis for the previous estimation and perhaps, a little bit of guesswork.
Not an accurate answer but you are the first to question it.
It is the same as challenging the 97% Israel public support Netanyahu has based on Caitlin's source. It is always difficult to confirm.
Thanks for that answer Contrarian.
I was not questioning the likelihood that it’s an accurate number - it is just frightening to think that US democracy has been bought.
Trump has a Jew in the family and the US religious establishment have some pretty twisted theology around the “sanctity” of Israel. The US is in fact the new Israel. Look out world!!
"It is silly to suggest an alternative to where we are"
Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
Unfortunately, her scathing humour is legitimate.
Biden is a self-declared “proud Zionist” and enabled a genocide on behalf of his best bud, the psychotic Mileikowsky.
On headline alone…wow…right on. High five Caitlin.
Caitlin:
"The argument for the US-led world order is over. It’s done..... Humanity has no future if these monsters are left in charge".
This should be the rallying cry for what is left of humanity - of those who didn't follow the monsters - after Israel/USA/West have made a graveyard of Gaza, drenched in the blood of innocents.
"Biden’s victims matter more than the rules of imperial etiquette. "
Damn right they do! Perhaps Biden's imminent nasty death from cancer is divine retribution for all the evil he committed during his political career. From the Crime Bill to the Genocide in Gaza, Biden has been on the wrong side of history every step of the way. May his name be associated with the likes of Hitler and Pol Pot forever.
It won't be a nasty death. He has probably the best medical help which thousands of US people do not.
No Biden has not been on the wrong side every step of the way. Not by a long shot. But he irredeemably fucked up in Gaza, along with the majority of the Democratic party.
Care to give an example of a time when he did some good?
Megan Baker,
Biden was the right-leaning “moderate” white dude that the DNC picked to be Obama’s sidekick for the 2008 elections.
Biden accepted the assignment.
Was that a good thing?
Do you know his role in Iraq? He’s always been a neocon
So, Joe Biden sexual assaulting his congressional intern, Tara Reade, is "okay" by you? The hair sniffing of little children and the unwanted touches from Biden they've endured is "okay" with you? Biden's Crime Bill which has locked up many innocent people whose only crime was their African American ancestry is "okay" by you? Joe Biden harassing Anita Hill while she was giving testimony and thereby letting arch-conservative Clarence Thomas become a Supreme Court justice is "okay" by you? You've got some pretty weird morals to find all these despicable things Biden has done "okay".
You seem to be saying here that Biden "fucked up in Gaza" which isn't exactly saying that you disagree with him aiding and abetting a genocide in Gaza. You're just angry that Biden has revealed the corruption inherent in the duopoly/DNC more than anything apparently. Some pretty weird morals you got there.
It is sad that Biden is going to die a slow, painful death. I am not happy that is happening, but I don't really care. He has never done anything that would cause me to care. I am no longer surprised by the statements from Zionist Israelis, Americans and Europeans that killing Gazans does not matter to anyone. It just makes me feel sick and angry. And a little afraid. I am not even sure that American, British or European withholding of arms would stop those maniacs. It seems that the government of India would help them to murder Palestinians if asked to do so.
SAD, Susan?
You clearly don’t understand the concept of What Goes Around Comes Around.
Consider the long slow deaths of the Palestinian people buried under the ruins of their homes.
You have no idea what I understand or what I do not understand. I don't like Biden and his ilk, but I refuse to become like them and see anyone's pain and suffering as OK. I can't say as I care much, but it is sad when anyone of any kind suffers. The murders of the Palestinian people is, for me, almost beyond being able to cope with. It is incredibly painful to see that our world has become so inhumane and ugly.
I have learned to stop reading immediately whenever I encounter the word "you." An insult inevitably follows.
Gypsy: Maybe you and Don Junior could make friends. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgLx8QMeNBQ
His death won't be PAINFUL Susan. I am sure he will have whatever pain killers he wants, unlike my young friend who just died in the USA without enough painkillers.
Yes, you are probably right. I hope he at least feels enough pain so that it gets through to his elitist numb brain what he has been part of creating for the American people.
NOT just the American people Susan.
of course not. He is an inhumane asshole. But he is American and he has contributed to making life worse for them too.
Imagine being that old and still support an injustice…Him and his administration chose to gaslight us. It was as if he believed that time had rendered him immune to accountability, cloaked in years of experience and authority…
Yep. And then along came Karma at greater speed than usual, probably because of the magnitude of his crimes. This is the forerunner of what's coming to Israel.
Amazing how Biden was diagnosed with cancer days after MSM had no choice but to admit they had had been complicit in covering up his obvious dementia. The finger-pointing and accusations and counter-accusations would be hilarious farce if it the consequences weren’t so grim for the rest of us.
Good people who have no power at all are trying to stop this massacre. That our “leaders” feel completely free to ignore demonstrations, the World court and worldwide outrage should tell us everything we need to know about who’s really in charge. They’re not going to stop until they’ve killed everyone they want to and stolen everything they can.
SW, did you hear the one about Karim Kahn of the UN ( ICC Chief prosecutor ), who issued the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu ... the latest is that he had to step down charged with sexual harassment, based on a Wall Street Journal investigation.
Their next target might be Francesca Albanese...
May he suffer greatly and rot for eternity.
I'm going to take a morning-after cheap beer, wings and corn-topped nachos dump on his grave.
President Genocideaire needs to suffer pain excruciating pain as he has inflicted on the children of Gaza
Fact: the cancer started in his brain, then spread to his prostate from when he had his head up his ass for 16 years in the White House.