Ethnic cleansing and, barring that, outright genocide was always the goal. October 7 was but a pretext, just as 9/11 was the pretext for the Second War On Iraq.
But the War on Terror, and Israel's attacks on Palestinians have never been attempts to reduce terrorism. They in fact, have always BEEN terrorism. Yes, Israel hoped to terrorize the Palestinians into submission and obedience, but I don't think that's the case this time--I think Mossad LET Oct 7 happen in the same way the Cheney administration let 9/11 happen, because they don't mind sacrificing a few thousand of their on citizens to set up an agenda otherwise hard to justify. In Israel's case, it's the Final Solution, in which global outrage forces Egypt to take in hundreds of thousands of Gazan refugees, to live in tent cities in the desert for generations, and meanwhile conduct a campaign of terror and annihilation in the West bank to get rid of Palestinians there. I wonder, if they succeed, if they will then continue on the Nazi path by starting wars of conquest against their neighbors for more lebensraum.
I hear worries that either the US, or Istrael, wants to use the situation to start a war with Iran. But I've been hearing worries about the US starting a war with Iran for a decade so I dunno.
Israel didn't jst want this to happen, I believe they collaborated with US/CIA and created a dual false flag, 1 Hamas attacking Israel, 2) Syria shelling Israel from the north. These false flags only serve the interests of Israel and the US and were both conveniently committed by terrorist organizations that were formed, trained and funded by these 2 nations. Casus Belli - Israel and the USA were the only winners on Oct 7th.
The RAND Corp and the Pentagon have warned the neocons that war with Iran will be entirely different than invading the relatively defenceless countries that they have previously rolled through - and would unleash a regional and worldwide wave of asymmetric warfare that would result in intolerable level of losses and harm to the US.
Whether this will stop them forever, it difficult to say - but it’s why the neocons and their political puppets have not invaded Iran.
The US has wanted to invade Iran since the 1950s. I strongly believe the Syrian attacks on Oct 7th against Northern Israel were committed by US backed ISIS in Syria as part of the oct 7th false flag. Those attacks were immediately blamed on Iranian backed militants, they even claimed the humanitarian convoy traveling through Syria was an Iranian backed army. Now the US is bombing Syria almost daily.
Don't forget notBob, that Israel right now is bombing parts of Lebanon to repress Hezbollah while committing acts of aggression against Iran and Syria all the time.
The Criminal Elite from the US and EU are in Syria STEALING THE OIL! The lie of being anything else is just a lie. They are trucking it over to Turkey and that is why they bombed the port in Syria to so the end of the "Silk Road" could not be accessed!
There is more truth about WHO GOVERNS the USA (and Israel) symbolized in the following photograph of a US Naval War Ship than most people can handle....
I expect that's a doctored photo--but very appropriate indeed. And that's a thing about this moment in history--the veneer is getting pretty threadbare
It is often through seeing ☠️ something in the wrong place that a traveler realizes he has come to the 😵😱 right place." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874 - 1936)
The Egyptians don’t want the Palestinians because they are mostly pro-Hamas or are from Hamas. Hamas is an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt has had a long history of cracking down on the extremism, religious authoritarianism and militancy of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why have more of such people to destabilise your country?!
The trouble with this comment is that it makes the extremely common mistake of saying "the Egyptians" as though they all agree, and more to the point, as though the sociopaths at the top making the decisions represent the country. I think of at least equal importance are two other factors: not wanting the expense of housing a large population in a desert for--well, forever...and not wanting to facilitate Israel's ethnic cleansing.
ABC news! Really!? You still believe anything the CIA tells you from these fake news outlets! The above post from Mary has been stated by people from the Egyptian government. And the people of Egypt are not actually going to take this much longer and will actually force their government to do something. They have already gave a big up yours to the Criminal Elite regarding Ukraine. You should look around try like "Redacted" on Rumble Clayton Morris was in Egypt at the start of this whole mess.
“During the meeting, President Al-Sisi also stressed Egypt’s categorical rejection of the displacement of Palestinians, whether internally or externally, especially to the Egyptian territories in Sinai. The president of the European Commission agreed with him, confirming the European position of rejecting the displacement.”
A quote from the Daily News Egypt - please don’t tell me this is CIA run as well?!
Al-Sisi is diplomatically saying ‘We don’t want any Palestinians in Egypt.’
What rubbish! If they cared for their fellow man they’d let them through and take them in. They’d be the Good Samaritan (or Islamic equivalent). However, the Egyptian government doesn’t want them in. Also, by not letting them through the boarder wouldn’t have any affect on the ‘genocide’ (as you’d put it) - it just hems the Palestinians into a tighter spot which is easier to bomb.
Do you realise that the Criminal Elite from the US overthrew the elected government of Egypt? Yes and put a military puppet in place who they pay 4 billion a year to keep the border closed. There's the truth in the puddin.
Well I sure hope so, if any 'ass' attacks Iran they absolutely deserve it! (unbelievable that you simply loose all humanity, but how to 'defend' yrself against such criminals that have only death & destruction - not for them of course, there it is only $$$$ - in mind!
They want to obliterate Palestinians in Gaza for sure but i also think they don't want the region united and peaceful, they're trying to draw Hezbollah in and create terror attacks around the world to further justify exploitative operations agaisnt Arab nations, the occupation of Syria and Iraq and to increase Islamophobia,both at home and abroad
I think you are imagining the wrong targets, Israels goal for the Oct 7th false flag was Gaza and their final solution. I think they collaborated/conspired with the US/CIA who used their ISIS terrorist front to attack Israel from Syria allowing the claim that it was Syrian and Iranian backed attacks on Israel. This opens up the false flag for the US to justify renewed shelling of Syria with an eye to war with Iran which are ultimately just a southern front on the war with Russia.
I guess my point is that there are 2 false flags happening concurrently created by 2 different nations.
You are close. The Hamas "Freedom Fighters" are a legit legal military and have the right to attack the terrorist state of Israel. These filth calling Hamas "Terrorist" are the real terrorist! They attacked a military target and the areas had armed militia who they knew they would come up against. The IDF opened up on everyone and Hamas took great care to not harm the civilians! We have been lied to from the start. Hamas is legal and the defense force not a terrorist organisation! IDF is a terrorist attack group against the Palestinians with no legal rights. Lying treasonous politicians have tried to make it sound like this is all justified and Israel the victim.
Well there's quite a lot of Oct 7th exploitation being used to deliberately increase racial tension and Islamophobia in the UK, where racist immigration policies are all the rage at the moment.
I'm saying provoking instability (plus stealing fossil fuels) is what they're trying to achieve with the genocide of Palestinians, not what is actually happening; thankfully the Arab nations are talking to each other and refusing to be divided and controlled by the US.
LIke Africa is refusing to be controlled by France, US, IMF, World bank economic strangleholds anymore.
The term "nanny state" doesn't refer to the UK's relationship with the world and in particular with the US. It refers to the controlling nature of the government.
Unfortunately it is working, both Israel and the US/NATO have successfully started wars of opportunity to achieve their strategic goals, the propaganda may be failing but the Gaza initiative is moving forward with no stopping. The US war with Iran is a longer term proposal but the US is actively shelling Syria on a daily basis so the US got what it wanted from the false flag events of Oct 7th. Israel got what it wanted as well, the question remaining: is this going to turn into a large regional war or full blown WW3 with Russia. I expect the latter.
JennyStokes, It has always been about stealing global south resources - far back then with the old colonialists and now with the neo-imperialists of the US and its vassal states.
Exactly!!! The fun and excitement of killing; many vets talk about the rush it gave them; my own siblings love to brage about the people they've killed. It's the same with shoplifters, etcetera. November 27, is also some sort of religious holiday of revenge, so it should be interesting to see who gets killed due to some secret court sentence.
Same formula really that the early 'pioneers' engaged in their treatment of natives in the 'New World' so expect no change from these land thieving Zionist megalomaniacs who have an agenda to take the whole planet over for their murderous entertainment. Depopulation is on their Malthusian/WEF agenda so they're not even remotely bothered about stopping the slaughter. There appears to be a requirement for maybe half a billion zombie slaves to attend to the Zionist masters every needs. When the Gaza thing is done the Zionists know that Jews across the world might well be blamed for all these terrible things but the truth is that the Zionists really don't care and have mercilessly used the Jews and once again put them into the firing line. Seems to me that the Zionist road map is to move towards putting greater israel on the map extending from the Nile river to the Euphrates river, Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea. All that oil/gas! All that enormous power over trade routes!
Now that's the chant to get steamed up & angry about and not 'From the river to the sea'. Zionists, even though there are some Jews in their unholy team [think Khazarian Mafia], care nothing about anyone else and that most certainly includes the rest of the Jewish population. Zionists are the enemy of the vast majority of us as far as I'm concerned.
To: Depopulation, which I am totally for - we already suffer the 'rat syndrome' but the MEANS I abhor, for decades I was hoping for education (worldwide) that bringing endless babies to this limited planet will 'kill us all' (just think how much EVERY SINGLE ONE of us consumes and produces wastes - it is politically toxic, but SO OBVIOUS!)
On the day that you read this article, 200 species of life on Earth (plants, birds, animals, fish, amphibians, insects, reptiles) will cease to exist. Tomorrow, another 200 species will vanish forever.
The human onslaught to destroy life on Earth is unprecedented in Earth’s history. Planet Earth is now experiencing its sixth mass extinction event and Homo sapiens is the cause. Moreover, this mass extinction event is accelerating and is so comprehensive in its impact that the piecemeal measures being taken by the United Nations, international agencies and governments constitute a tokenism that is breathtaking in the extreme.
Elaine, I agree with you regarding the 6th extinction and that it is a product of Homo Not So Sapiens, but the blame does not belong at the door of the U.N.
The U.N. cannot take any strong and positive action without either consensus or at least, a majority vote and as long as the Security Council exists, with some members having the power of veto, the U.N. is hamstrung. Most members want action to stop wars and deal with environmental collapse.
The U.N. is maybe the best hope humanity has, just as the EU and the EEC before brought together European nations after centuries of wars.
We urgently need to recognise that there is only one race - the human race and it's only together we will prevail.
These are existential fears that completely ignore our place in nature. If our population exceeds our ability to address their needs the population will reduce of its own accord. Birthrates are already falling in western nations. its ridiculous to worry about overpopulation, it is a self correcting problem.
Well if you say so ... western nations are NOT the problem! (I think it is too late, who knows millions billions will die miserably ... what a pity - WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED THAT)
Indeed! My worry is the exponential rise in population growth. Their answer is to destroy the surplus people which is an answer I'm obviously totally against. Education, as you say, is the answer plus some solid economic assistance to families who ordinarily have to budget for their old age by having large families as there are usually no safety nets in place for the elderly in a world of poverty. Again, [imaginary] money is considered much too valuable by the Zionist gang/cabal to give/invest in people in developing countries. We have some religious leaders who want more congregation so they demand no contraception plus the inflexible command that any children are brought up in the faith to carry on expanding their religious empire as fast as possible. Bleak outlook.
Yes agree totally - unfortunately -at least I think - it is too late ... (my husband and I decided not to watch it, everywhere you look is only depressing, we are old, so we just want to enjoy the rest before ... (he is a biologist, special interest in birds, who are in TERRIBLE shape ...)
That's a drag. Murdoch took the Nat Geo over & we all know his appetite for [imaginary] money. I have the film from the early days when this information was free. It's an important documentary although quite gross at points where the sheer number of things the 'average' North American person uses up in a lifetime is illustrated. The egg segment is something else!
Yes. Hamas was created, from the Moslem brotherhood under the British then Hamas under the US for just this purpose. Oct 7th was beautifully timed to turn attention away from the catastrophic failure in Ukraine when it was admitted that the offensive had been halted, and all eyes turned to extremists in Israeli government and Gaza making a perfect storm to raze Gaza, but also to create genuine resistance movements in Palestine for a perpetual war against terror. The region was coming together, the US can't have that. Thankfully Hezbollah etc have quite a lot of common sense and refuse to play the game.
Just a side note -- if the PENTAGON says that terrorism/drugs/etc has increased 75,000% in a region, the PENTAGON wants an excuse to have a greater presence in said region.
Not that it isn't 'true'... but if it wasn't they would create it if it served their purposes of global hegemony.
And Africa is the new plum that they would all love to get their mitts on.
The GOAL is to take ALL that land (and in the future even more!) and the resources associated with it and incorporate it into the Great Land of IsRaEl! https://postimg.cc/LhSN9dJP
If a few millions of uman animals (not jewish above all) are there... A proper clean-up is in order.
So well presented by the indefatigable Caitlin! Tragically (for the Palestinians...and the rest of humankind), US "leaders" and sycophantic hangers-on here and there are incapable of the most basic comprehension...and so they (Zioneocons and their puppets) continue to dig that ol' hole deeper....
There are many voices now being raised against the war crimes and occupation. It wasn't always the way, so I guess that's progress. And I want to thank you, Caitlin for being one of the strongest voices for humanity. It is still TBD whether our species deserves to be considered humane.
I think we must change the dominant narrative, otherwise we just continue on the path of destruction and hatred. Given the craven behavior of the western governments, we have to look to alternatives. I think calling on Pope Francis to go to Gaza might help. It might not work, of course. There are serious obstacles and future problems that could occur, but maybe it's worth trying. Maybe it could save lives. I came up with this petition that is outside of the current narrative, one that I hope might have some effect in stopping the bombing in Gaza. This is not instead of whatever else we are doing to try to change this situation and stop the killing. Please sign and share if you can.
Hello Joy in HK, Amazing that you don't realise that the Vatican is part of the whole oligarchical neoliberal capitalist establishment that is suffocating the world today. They are the problem not the solution.
They are part of the problem, but still, it would have an impact on the whole oligarchical neoliberal capitalist establishment if the pope actually went to Gaza. Not a solution but the reaction would be really interesting, maybe.
I appreciate your comments but, it would be a step outside the major world agenda-setting governments. One that has the potential of shifting the narrative away from what we are daily told, which that of more war. If the Pope went, he would have to go as a representative of Peace. Nothing else would fit his nominal narrative, irrespective of whether there is a neoliberal agenda in the Vatican.
Washington DC and Langley VA are chock full of bureaucrats with bellies full of ideology and heads empty of logic or historical insight - despite having paper qualifications from prestigious universities.
National capitals around the remainder of the colonial west are unfortunately just full of local vassals or US “assets” pretending to be national leaders.
So nothing has been learned. And nothing will be learned.
To take the example of the Second War On Iraq - none of the architects of that war in or out of government suffered, neither personally nor professionally. Those who are not dead or retired still are in positions of influence and authority, and still making war for Empire. In fact, they are regularly hailed as Serious Thinkers, Elder Statesmen and Foreign Policy Heavyweights, even though precisely none of their rosy public predictions for the war came to pass. (I suspect that some had an idea of what would in fact happen and that this was the desired outcome.)
Meanwhile, the Cassandras were cast into Outer Darkness, even as the war provided more disastrous than any of the nay-sayers foresaw.
Israel's lies are so blatant and so obvious that even the likes of mainstream media such as CNN and BBC - who feeds their clientele a litany of distortions and lies day after day - now feel compelled to cover their tracks. They must be cursing the the most efficient war machine of Israel for failing to do a cover up properly, that even they cannot spin it anymore. Why would we believe any of them? Did October 7th really happen the way they told us?
Let's not let the world community forget that it was/is the US and its vassals who enable Israel to commit such atrocities.
Submission and obedience isn't the goal.
Ethnic cleansing and, barring that, outright genocide was always the goal. October 7 was but a pretext, just as 9/11 was the pretext for the Second War On Iraq.
Oil and Gas and a land grab ... and that small thing of genocide (maybe even shoving the refugees into the UK and EU as well).
But the War on Terror, and Israel's attacks on Palestinians have never been attempts to reduce terrorism. They in fact, have always BEEN terrorism. Yes, Israel hoped to terrorize the Palestinians into submission and obedience, but I don't think that's the case this time--I think Mossad LET Oct 7 happen in the same way the Cheney administration let 9/11 happen, because they don't mind sacrificing a few thousand of their on citizens to set up an agenda otherwise hard to justify. In Israel's case, it's the Final Solution, in which global outrage forces Egypt to take in hundreds of thousands of Gazan refugees, to live in tent cities in the desert for generations, and meanwhile conduct a campaign of terror and annihilation in the West bank to get rid of Palestinians there. I wonder, if they succeed, if they will then continue on the Nazi path by starting wars of conquest against their neighbors for more lebensraum.
I hear worries that either the US, or Istrael, wants to use the situation to start a war with Iran. But I've been hearing worries about the US starting a war with Iran for a decade so I dunno.
Absolutely I agree. Israel wanted this to happen.
Israel didn't jst want this to happen, I believe they collaborated with US/CIA and created a dual false flag, 1 Hamas attacking Israel, 2) Syria shelling Israel from the north. These false flags only serve the interests of Israel and the US and were both conveniently committed by terrorist organizations that were formed, trained and funded by these 2 nations. Casus Belli - Israel and the USA were the only winners on Oct 7th.
I am beginning to think this is all about Oil.
Iran next.
I don't agree, though they have fully exploited the situation.
The difference between outright curated false flag and let it happen on purpose is v difficult to spot
The RAND Corp and the Pentagon have warned the neocons that war with Iran will be entirely different than invading the relatively defenceless countries that they have previously rolled through - and would unleash a regional and worldwide wave of asymmetric warfare that would result in intolerable level of losses and harm to the US.
Whether this will stop them forever, it difficult to say - but it’s why the neocons and their political puppets have not invaded Iran.
Makes one wish it would happen. The United Snakes can’t even fill its own military personnel requirement!
Meanwhile, millions of able-bodied Iranians are ready and able ..
What about if they introduce the 'draft?'
Yes! And EVERYONE goes..no Fortunate Sons, and that means send Congress’ kids to the front lines! 😁
What? No sole surviving sons.
Why are sons more important than daughters?
And the band played "Dream On"...
Death and destruction your thing is it gyp? I'm sure Bebe could find a place for you.
You idiot. Ever hear of a place called VIETNAM?
That little dust up is what got the draft abolished.
People have a way of opposing war when it’s THEIR turn to go.
No grr, we've seen enough death and what we need to see destroyed is Amerikas' military apparatus and war machine and the whole of the of the MIC.
Most of the grunts joined out of desperation and have been programmed (brainwashed), like characters from Phillip K Dicks' Sirens Of Titan.
Don't join up?
The US has wanted to invade Iran since the 1950s. I strongly believe the Syrian attacks on Oct 7th against Northern Israel were committed by US backed ISIS in Syria as part of the oct 7th false flag. Those attacks were immediately blamed on Iranian backed militants, they even claimed the humanitarian convoy traveling through Syria was an Iranian backed army. Now the US is bombing Syria almost daily.
Don't forget notBob, that Israel right now is bombing parts of Lebanon to repress Hezbollah while committing acts of aggression against Iran and Syria all the time.
The Criminal Elite from the US and EU are in Syria STEALING THE OIL! The lie of being anything else is just a lie. They are trucking it over to Turkey and that is why they bombed the port in Syria to so the end of the "Silk Road" could not be accessed!
This is why I say the US used is assets in Syria to attack Israel form the north, ostensibly justifying expanded war in Syria.
You are right.
There is more truth about WHO GOVERNS the USA (and Israel) symbolized in the following photograph of a US Naval War Ship than most people can handle....
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/gallery/soberthinking/1-111123224656.jpeg
I expect that's a doctored photo--but very appropriate indeed. And that's a thing about this moment in history--the veneer is getting pretty threadbare
It is often through seeing ☠️ something in the wrong place that a traveler realizes he has come to the 😵😱 right place." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874 - 1936)
The Egyptians don’t want the Palestinians because they are mostly pro-Hamas or are from Hamas. Hamas is an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt has had a long history of cracking down on the extremism, religious authoritarianism and militancy of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why have more of such people to destabilise your country?!
The trouble with this comment is that it makes the extremely common mistake of saying "the Egyptians" as though they all agree, and more to the point, as though the sociopaths at the top making the decisions represent the country. I think of at least equal importance are two other factors: not wanting the expense of housing a large population in a desert for--well, forever...and not wanting to facilitate Israel's ethnic cleansing.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/egypt-arab-countries-unwilling-palestinian-refugees-gaza-104083766
The Egyptian government are even saying they don’t want the Palestinians in because they will cause chaos in the Egypt.
ABC news! Really!? You still believe anything the CIA tells you from these fake news outlets! The above post from Mary has been stated by people from the Egyptian government. And the people of Egypt are not actually going to take this much longer and will actually force their government to do something. They have already gave a big up yours to the Criminal Elite regarding Ukraine. You should look around try like "Redacted" on Rumble Clayton Morris was in Egypt at the start of this whole mess.
“During the meeting, President Al-Sisi also stressed Egypt’s categorical rejection of the displacement of Palestinians, whether internally or externally, especially to the Egyptian territories in Sinai. The president of the European Commission agreed with him, confirming the European position of rejecting the displacement.”
A quote from the Daily News Egypt - please don’t tell me this is CIA run as well?!
Al-Sisi is diplomatically saying ‘We don’t want any Palestinians in Egypt.’
What rubbish! If they cared for their fellow man they’d let them through and take them in. They’d be the Good Samaritan (or Islamic equivalent). However, the Egyptian government doesn’t want them in. Also, by not letting them through the boarder wouldn’t have any affect on the ‘genocide’ (as you’d put it) - it just hems the Palestinians into a tighter spot which is easier to bomb.
Do you realise that the Criminal Elite from the US overthrew the elected government of Egypt? Yes and put a military puppet in place who they pay 4 billion a year to keep the border closed. There's the truth in the puddin.
Well I sure hope so, if any 'ass' attacks Iran they absolutely deserve it! (unbelievable that you simply loose all humanity, but how to 'defend' yrself against such criminals that have only death & destruction - not for them of course, there it is only $$$$ - in mind!
But they don’t want submission or obedience. They want death.
You mean the Israelis? If so then I agree.
They want to obliterate Palestinians in Gaza for sure but i also think they don't want the region united and peaceful, they're trying to draw Hezbollah in and create terror attacks around the world to further justify exploitative operations agaisnt Arab nations, the occupation of Syria and Iraq and to increase Islamophobia,both at home and abroad
I think you are imagining the wrong targets, Israels goal for the Oct 7th false flag was Gaza and their final solution. I think they collaborated/conspired with the US/CIA who used their ISIS terrorist front to attack Israel from Syria allowing the claim that it was Syrian and Iranian backed attacks on Israel. This opens up the false flag for the US to justify renewed shelling of Syria with an eye to war with Iran which are ultimately just a southern front on the war with Russia.
I guess my point is that there are 2 false flags happening concurrently created by 2 different nations.
You are close. The Hamas "Freedom Fighters" are a legit legal military and have the right to attack the terrorist state of Israel. These filth calling Hamas "Terrorist" are the real terrorist! They attacked a military target and the areas had armed militia who they knew they would come up against. The IDF opened up on everyone and Hamas took great care to not harm the civilians! We have been lied to from the start. Hamas is legal and the defense force not a terrorist organisation! IDF is a terrorist attack group against the Palestinians with no legal rights. Lying treasonous politicians have tried to make it sound like this is all justified and Israel the victim.
Yes BUT it's NOT working is it? Beware of too much propaganda!
Well there's quite a lot of Oct 7th exploitation being used to deliberately increase racial tension and Islamophobia in the UK, where racist immigration policies are all the rage at the moment.
I'm saying provoking instability (plus stealing fossil fuels) is what they're trying to achieve with the genocide of Palestinians, not what is actually happening; thankfully the Arab nations are talking to each other and refusing to be divided and controlled by the US.
LIke Africa is refusing to be controlled by France, US, IMF, World bank economic strangleholds anymore.
Everyone has had it with the US.
UK has been a satellite of the US for a long time. Called the 'nanny state' in England/
I see it more like a lap dog or vassal than a satellite x
The term "nanny state" doesn't refer to the UK's relationship with the world and in particular with the US. It refers to the controlling nature of the government.
Unfortunately it is working, both Israel and the US/NATO have successfully started wars of opportunity to achieve their strategic goals, the propaganda may be failing but the Gaza initiative is moving forward with no stopping. The US war with Iran is a longer term proposal but the US is actively shelling Syria on a daily basis so the US got what it wanted from the false flag events of Oct 7th. Israel got what it wanted as well, the question remaining: is this going to turn into a large regional war or full blown WW3 with Russia. I expect the latter.
I think it will be against Iran. Iran controls shipping routes so the US has to get shot of Iran. All about Oil.
JennyStokes, It has always been about stealing global south resources - far back then with the old colonialists and now with the neo-imperialists of the US and its vassal states.
Not just Israel, almost every western government is about death and destruction.
I don't think so. They're just deluded.
Really ? Name me the caring, loving kind government running a nation in the world today ?
Oman probably.
Not too bad here in Europe especially now Macron is backing down on his stance of pro Israel.
Yes.
Exactly!!! The fun and excitement of killing; many vets talk about the rush it gave them; my own siblings love to brage about the people they've killed. It's the same with shoplifters, etcetera. November 27, is also some sort of religious holiday of revenge, so it should be interesting to see who gets killed due to some secret court sentence.
Very popular here in the US.
They try to shout Hamas millions of times to cut the word people from the name Palestine.
Same formula really that the early 'pioneers' engaged in their treatment of natives in the 'New World' so expect no change from these land thieving Zionist megalomaniacs who have an agenda to take the whole planet over for their murderous entertainment. Depopulation is on their Malthusian/WEF agenda so they're not even remotely bothered about stopping the slaughter. There appears to be a requirement for maybe half a billion zombie slaves to attend to the Zionist masters every needs. When the Gaza thing is done the Zionists know that Jews across the world might well be blamed for all these terrible things but the truth is that the Zionists really don't care and have mercilessly used the Jews and once again put them into the firing line. Seems to me that the Zionist road map is to move towards putting greater israel on the map extending from the Nile river to the Euphrates river, Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea. All that oil/gas! All that enormous power over trade routes!
Now that's the chant to get steamed up & angry about and not 'From the river to the sea'. Zionists, even though there are some Jews in their unholy team [think Khazarian Mafia], care nothing about anyone else and that most certainly includes the rest of the Jewish population. Zionists are the enemy of the vast majority of us as far as I'm concerned.
To: Depopulation, which I am totally for - we already suffer the 'rat syndrome' but the MEANS I abhor, for decades I was hoping for education (worldwide) that bringing endless babies to this limited planet will 'kill us all' (just think how much EVERY SINGLE ONE of us consumes and produces wastes - it is politically toxic, but SO OBVIOUS!)
On the day that you read this article, 200 species of life on Earth (plants, birds, animals, fish, amphibians, insects, reptiles) will cease to exist. Tomorrow, another 200 species will vanish forever.
The human onslaught to destroy life on Earth is unprecedented in Earth’s history. Planet Earth is now experiencing its sixth mass extinction event and Homo sapiens is the cause. Moreover, this mass extinction event is accelerating and is so comprehensive in its impact that the piecemeal measures being taken by the United Nations, international agencies and governments constitute a tokenism that is breathtaking in the extreme.
Elaine, I agree with you regarding the 6th extinction and that it is a product of Homo Not So Sapiens, but the blame does not belong at the door of the U.N.
The U.N. cannot take any strong and positive action without either consensus or at least, a majority vote and as long as the Security Council exists, with some members having the power of veto, the U.N. is hamstrung. Most members want action to stop wars and deal with environmental collapse.
The U.N. is maybe the best hope humanity has, just as the EU and the EEC before brought together European nations after centuries of wars.
We urgently need to recognise that there is only one race - the human race and it's only together we will prevail.
Yes indeed, as Mr Hedges (in an article regarding humans recently) said: The Horror, The Horror!
These are existential fears that completely ignore our place in nature. If our population exceeds our ability to address their needs the population will reduce of its own accord. Birthrates are already falling in western nations. its ridiculous to worry about overpopulation, it is a self correcting problem.
Well if you say so ... western nations are NOT the problem! (I think it is too late, who knows millions billions will die miserably ... what a pity - WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED THAT)
Indeed! My worry is the exponential rise in population growth. Their answer is to destroy the surplus people which is an answer I'm obviously totally against. Education, as you say, is the answer plus some solid economic assistance to families who ordinarily have to budget for their old age by having large families as there are usually no safety nets in place for the elderly in a world of poverty. Again, [imaginary] money is considered much too valuable by the Zionist gang/cabal to give/invest in people in developing countries. We have some religious leaders who want more congregation so they demand no contraception plus the inflexible command that any children are brought up in the faith to carry on expanding their religious empire as fast as possible. Bleak outlook.
As a resource, have you seen the excellent but sometimes gross National Geographic documentary called "The Human Footprint"? https://www.schooltube.com/watch/national-geographic-the-human-footprint-1-10_lk8h5s3gkq4ipj.html
Yes agree totally - unfortunately -at least I think - it is too late ... (my husband and I decided not to watch it, everywhere you look is only depressing, we are old, so we just want to enjoy the rest before ... (he is a biologist, special interest in birds, who are in TERRIBLE shape ...)
There's still good in the world. Enjoy your retirement and please do rejoin us when you've regained your strength. Never give up.
It's behind a paywall. I couldn't access it.
That's a drag. Murdoch took the Nat Geo over & we all know his appetite for [imaginary] money. I have the film from the early days when this information was free. It's an important documentary although quite gross at points where the sheer number of things the 'average' North American person uses up in a lifetime is illustrated. The egg segment is something else!
Brilliant. Dennis Kucinich like. Caitlin, you and Dennis, both amazing writers, are my reason for living. I am not alone.
Patrick Lawrence also.
Read his post today.
Caitlin is far and above Kucinich.
You're a fan then.
It's not a competition.
Yes. Hamas was created, from the Moslem brotherhood under the British then Hamas under the US for just this purpose. Oct 7th was beautifully timed to turn attention away from the catastrophic failure in Ukraine when it was admitted that the offensive had been halted, and all eyes turned to extremists in Israeli government and Gaza making a perfect storm to raze Gaza, but also to create genuine resistance movements in Palestine for a perpetual war against terror. The region was coming together, the US can't have that. Thankfully Hezbollah etc have quite a lot of common sense and refuse to play the game.
Just a side note -- if the PENTAGON says that terrorism/drugs/etc has increased 75,000% in a region, the PENTAGON wants an excuse to have a greater presence in said region.
Not that it isn't 'true'... but if it wasn't they would create it if it served their purposes of global hegemony.
And Africa is the new plum that they would all love to get their mitts on.
Any port in a storm.
The GOAL is to take ALL that land (and in the future even more!) and the resources associated with it and incorporate it into the Great Land of IsRaEl! https://postimg.cc/LhSN9dJP
If a few millions of uman animals (not jewish above all) are there... A proper clean-up is in order.
So VOTE for mutTrump or mutBiden the final result won't CHANGE. Just never vote for anyone else... be a good MMS/3i's
Never been great thinkers the US establishment.
Of course, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin were duffers. No talent there. (sarc).
I was talking about Presidents from Ronald Reagan and Biden.
Well you didn't say so. (lol!)
NO John I did not!
So well presented by the indefatigable Caitlin! Tragically (for the Palestinians...and the rest of humankind), US "leaders" and sycophantic hangers-on here and there are incapable of the most basic comprehension...and so they (Zioneocons and their puppets) continue to dig that ol' hole deeper....
Viva Falasteen!
There are many voices now being raised against the war crimes and occupation. It wasn't always the way, so I guess that's progress. And I want to thank you, Caitlin for being one of the strongest voices for humanity. It is still TBD whether our species deserves to be considered humane.
I think we must change the dominant narrative, otherwise we just continue on the path of destruction and hatred. Given the craven behavior of the western governments, we have to look to alternatives. I think calling on Pope Francis to go to Gaza might help. It might not work, of course. There are serious obstacles and future problems that could occur, but maybe it's worth trying. Maybe it could save lives. I came up with this petition that is outside of the current narrative, one that I hope might have some effect in stopping the bombing in Gaza. This is not instead of whatever else we are doing to try to change this situation and stop the killing. Please sign and share if you can.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
Hello Joy in HK, Amazing that you don't realise that the Vatican is part of the whole oligarchical neoliberal capitalist establishment that is suffocating the world today. They are the problem not the solution.
They are part of the problem, but still, it would have an impact on the whole oligarchical neoliberal capitalist establishment if the pope actually went to Gaza. Not a solution but the reaction would be really interesting, maybe.
Absolutely!
I appreciate your comments but, it would be a step outside the major world agenda-setting governments. One that has the potential of shifting the narrative away from what we are daily told, which that of more war. If the Pope went, he would have to go as a representative of Peace. Nothing else would fit his nominal narrative, irrespective of whether there is a neoliberal agenda in the Vatican.
Joy, should this be signed multiple times by the same individual?
No. Just one time, but do share with your friends and fellow-minded acquaintances. Thanks!
I’m sure the military death merchants use the % increase in violence data in their annual profit forecasts.
I'm sure they don't care.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/17/us/politics/israel-gaza-global-arms-sales.html
"Lots of good news out there!"
Whatever the government does, it is always a war on living. By their nature, the government goons hate their citizens to death...literally.
"fear" not "hate" usually.
Washington DC and Langley VA are chock full of bureaucrats with bellies full of ideology and heads empty of logic or historical insight - despite having paper qualifications from prestigious universities.
National capitals around the remainder of the colonial west are unfortunately just full of local vassals or US “assets” pretending to be national leaders.
So nothing has been learned. And nothing will be learned.
To take the example of the Second War On Iraq - none of the architects of that war in or out of government suffered, neither personally nor professionally. Those who are not dead or retired still are in positions of influence and authority, and still making war for Empire. In fact, they are regularly hailed as Serious Thinkers, Elder Statesmen and Foreign Policy Heavyweights, even though precisely none of their rosy public predictions for the war came to pass. (I suspect that some had an idea of what would in fact happen and that this was the desired outcome.)
Meanwhile, the Cassandras were cast into Outer Darkness, even as the war provided more disastrous than any of the nay-sayers foresaw.
Oh, those bureaucrats learned, all right.
lol, you'd have got a "like" from me FF had it not been for the paranoid rant in parentheses. You "suspect" an awful lot that isn't true. Necessarily.
You really don't know what people's intentions are FF. Judge them by their actions and by nothing else.
It is not a leap of faith to suggest that members of the Bush Administration lied about Iraqi WMDs, is it not? Or is that a "paranoid rant"?
The word "suspect" should have clued you in, BTW.
No nothing has. I think it's all about Oil.
Yes, and most of them are Lefties.
Nope. American govt has no left.
You’re confused. Neocons who are ok with abortion are not left.
Israel's lies are so blatant and so obvious that even the likes of mainstream media such as CNN and BBC - who feeds their clientele a litany of distortions and lies day after day - now feel compelled to cover their tracks. They must be cursing the the most efficient war machine of Israel for failing to do a cover up properly, that even they cannot spin it anymore. Why would we believe any of them? Did October 7th really happen the way they told us?
Let's not let the world community forget that it was/is the US and its vassals who enable Israel to commit such atrocities.