When you've got folks offing themselves after counseling by an AI bot, you know "civilization" has hit the nadir of its capitalistic slime bath. And even the Times runs the story.
Naturally, i hope you're wrong, but I suspect that in a dying, whimpering empire, you just might be right that we ain't seen the worst of it. I'm just trying to compress my time frame.
well said Möebius. And unfortunately, it seems to be one increasingly utilized by the powers that be to further dumb down the masses so they can make the real world -changing decisions behind the scenes, with no interference or interruption.
That's the key question. One way is to reduce our screen time as much as we can and continue to value genuine human connection and relationships. Another is to educate ourselves through the "old-fashioned" ways of reading books, seeking out knowledgeable people about various fields and asking questions. One more way is to reduce hyper consumerism and the constant need to purchase products we don't need with money we don't have. I guess my point is that we disrupt their methods of mass dumbing down of our intellect and their ways of getting us to spend as much money as possible so we can be further exploited by the oligarch and corporation
L'affronto preferito della mia nonna. My maternal grandmother's favorite insult to dunderheads who ticked her off. Quella nonna deriva di Piemonte. But my other half's Sicilian.
Sure, it's just software -- badly curated by entrepreneurs looking to turn a market around that's currently looking like shit in terms of ROI. Gary Marcus is pretty trustworthy on the real state of affairs with Altman and that bunch. Not a particularly trustworthy cadre of indiividuals.
Thanks for the links. I know there are some honest actors out there and likewise the blowhards telling us that AGI is just around the corner (yah right!). Me, I'm just a curious observer of the fray.
Puglia's one area of the boot I unfortunately never got to visit. Sometimes I wish I'd made more of an effort to expatriate there years ago.
Thumbs up. Nessun problema per i link, paesano, grazie per averlo apprezzato. The claims "AGI" is just around the corner, is a super crack pipe dream they are selling to swindle us with another super scam, hence why i presented the first link. I've been using computers since the early 80s, learned [and always learning] to use them, have experience in being a 'computer doctor' + software design etc, have used over at least 1000 different different software applications and sorry, the claim "AI" exists, one of the next best super spiritual deceptions upon on us.... the same ones who told us "trust the science", '2 weeks to flatten the curve', 'trust the science', 'safe and effective', '9 Arabs flew planes into the Twin Towers', 'It's the Russians/Hunter Biden laptop' etcetera etcetera are the same super maggot liars who are telling us "AI" exists in our reality. It should be called "SA"/Sophisticated Algorithms or some similar term that infers it's man-invented, not some science fantasy/fiction term that will NEVER exist in our God created nature of reality.
About Puglia, too bad you never had a chance to visit, i'm increasingly thinking of moving to where my parents came from, because I'm in Toronto.. and it's becoming increasingly NWO/JWO Technocratic cacotopia... have to escape the cities.. but problem is... i'm crippled, it makes things much harder. If i do make back to my parents homeland, i will surely visit where your family is from, more such beyond words beautiful areas.
CJ>>"It Should Be Illegal To Use AI To Deceive People"
Caitlin, if it isn't AI technologies that are used for this, then it will be OTHER technologies (like language, propaganda, narratives, etc.) to DECEIVE people. You're blaming 'a tool' rather than the SOURCE of the problem - which is 'lack of critical thinking, media literacy, and most of all, the SYSTEM of Capitalism'.
None of the things you mention is likely to be illegal in the US (though China is ACTUALLY making REAL strides in terms of regulating AI) (Watch this video for more on that: "AI for the People? China's Strategy for Technology, Inequality, and the Global South" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuGRO6juOY).
People have been manipulated throughout history - be it with religious narratives, or others, be it with newspapers, public speeches, radio, television, movies, the internet and social media, and more. AI is the next evolution of technologies that will be used by those in power to enact and maintain the SAME status-quo systems that have existed BEFORE AI.
If you (or anyone) REALLY wants to fix these issues you mention, then they are likely to achieve BETTER results by focusing on the root/source of the problem, which is 'the easily hackable and manipulable human mind'. There are tools to address this problem (like critical thinking, media literacy, empathy, education, socialism, and more), but how many of 'us' (ordinary people) take the initiative of 'applying these tools' to solve the problem?
Regulation will help, but it will NOT solve the problem (no matter how much I wish it to). People need to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their own thoughts, actions, and words. Like you wrote in your recent article, "Nobody's Coming To Humanity's Rescue; We've Got To Save Ourselves", REGULATION is not coming to save us from AI - WE have got to save OURSELVES. People need to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY to 'learn the skills' so as NOT to be taken advantage of by AI technologies (or anything else).
I don't agree with your blanket 'black-and-white' approach to making things illegal - as such technologies (like AI) will be so deeply embedded in human societies (like the internet, cell phones, etc.) and there will be SO MANY nuanced usages of such technologies, that your 'make all this AI stuff illegal' wants/emotions/frustrations deviates from practical feasibility and real-world realities.
I disagree. Regulation needs to come to AI for all the reasons Caitlin mentions. We do have to save ourselves. That's why we came together to live in clans then tribes then towns then provinces, and countries in the first place. We're inherently social beings -interdependent beings... We are not separate islands. And coming together, we decide what we need to make our lives safer.
I don't like anyone telling me what to do. But I appreciate stoplights on our streets, food and workplace safety regulations and so many other things that I couldn't possibly take care of by myself.
This situation Caitlin brings up is a social one, and a big one. Just look at our world today. How many people are able to break away from their conditioning to begin to see the world as it is not how we want it to be - or how we were taught it would be. How many even know they need to do it? Most of us think what we see with our own eyes is what it is... the coiled rope is a snake. Think about it. We really need this regulation.
I think you mis-interpreted my comment. I am pro-regulation on AI technologies (and on many other industries and organizations).
Here's the TL;DR-> regulation is NECESSARY, but not SUFFICIENT. Not only that, what is really important is 'the kind of regulation', 'the kind of enforcement of regulation', the spill-over effects of regulations, and WHO will be the regulator and 'who will be the regulated'.
As an example, consider the regulation of 'drugs' and the 'war on drugs'. As another example, consider the self-regulation of industries such as finance, the regulation of risk, and the back-room deals between the regulators and the regulated. Consider how regulation can be used in multiple ways - including deciding winners and losers.
Regulation is a complex and ever-changing topic of discussion and problems. We all know that it is needed (which is NOT the question under consideration), but we don't know ENOUGH about AI technologies yet to design EFFECTIVE regulations that serve the purpose we need them to. (There are many examples from history of unintended consequences of poorly-thought-out regulations). Simply making 'things ILLEGAL' is NOT the answer (far from it).
Something important questions to keep in mind -> (1) who makes the regulations?, (2) who enforces the regulations? (remember, we are talking of global contexts here), (3) who decides (1) and (2)?, and (4) who decides who decides?
sorry, I did misinterpret your position. And the questions you raise are most important. I read the panic article and it seems to boil down to "it'll all be OK." which it will, of course... in the big picture... it always is.
After I wrote my comment... I stumbled on this podcast on China dealing with this same problem plus other issues around AI -loss of jobs,etc.
Yes, I already included that link in the comment that you replied to ->
"None of the things you mention is likely to be illegal in the US (though China is ACTUALLY making REAL strides in terms of regulating AI) (Watch this video for more on that: "AI for the People? China's Strategy for Technology, Inequality, and the Global South" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuGRO6juOY)."
And I don't think "it'll be all OK". Even the present is 'NOT ok', and I have no adequate reasons/evidence to believe that 'the future' will be OK. I actually have SERIOUS CONCERNS around AI technologies (but my perspective is nuanced and I am neither a HYPER (of AI or any other technologies) nor a DOOMER (i.e. the world is ending).
I was surprised years ago, when I read J Krishnamurti's response to a question about the horrors of the world. He said "if you could get high enough and look down and see the world as one, you would see that it's perfect just as it is" (I paraphrase here) for every good there is a bad, every positive there is a negative... it all balances out... a zero sum game. I know that to be true. But in my day-to-day, in the mix of life, playing my part, it becomes very serious.
All good points, Chang. I had a similar reaction when I read the note that proceeded the essay. IMO Caitlin’s concerns are on point, but I’m skeptical about the proposed solutions.
Thank you for this: reassuring words indeed, IF we as a human race, manage to NOT be swallowed up by AI videos, deep fake propaganda and general AI generated nonsense. BUT are we capable of evolving sufficiently rapidly? (And secret fear of a HAL 9000 slowly going bonkers fill my imagination..)
You’re right; that is the relevant question. I find it reassuring that it’s been asked through the ages, and so far the answer has been “yes we can.” But living through step function technology change is unsettling on both the personal and societal levels.
Arthur C. Clarke said more than 60 years ago that “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” The conversational interface of Gen AI is the most uncanny valley yet, designed as it is to make personifying it nearly irresistible. But it’s only a tool; there’s a person behind it. We have to focus on the aims of the people who built it as well as those who wield
It. Caitlin is right to raise the alarm about its misuse. I think it’s also important to master its use. How better to understand its limits—and potential benefits?
As for consensus reality, all the old rules of the rumor mill still apply. We each have to create our own webs of trust and use them to question the narratives being pushed at us from all sides. We each have to maintain awareness that persuasion and manipulation are a pervasive aspect of human society. We have to do our own work to clarify our personal values and define our ethical and moral standards. These things aren’t easy, but they also aren’t new challenges.
You wrote: If you (or anyone) REALLY wants to fix these issues you mention, then they are likely to achieve BETTER results by focusing on the root/source of the problem, which is 'the easily hackable and manipulable human mind'. There are tools to address this problem (like critical thinking, media literacy, empathy, education, socialism, and more), but how many of 'us' (ordinary people) take the initiative of 'applying these tools' to solve the problem?
To lecture Caitlin Johnstone of all people for failing to do this suggests that you may have read this one post but not her multitude of previous posts. I can't think of anyone who has applied these tools more often than CJ
>>"To lecture Caitlin Johnstone of all people for failing to do this suggests that you may have read this one post but not her multitude of previous posts."
You assume too much. For one, I have been reading Caitlin's writings for over 5 years and deeply respect her morals and writing/thinking skills. For two, Caitlin is HUMAN, just like the rest of us - and ALL humans sometimes make mistakes (in their thinking, amongst other things, letting emotions influence opinions, bias, etc.) - NO human is immune from this.
Ned Ludd is the legendary person to whom the Luddites attributed the name of their movement. In 1779, Ludd is supposed to have broken two stocking frames in a fit of rage.
Yes, it should (in a perfect world), but unfortunately humans have never lived in a 'perfect world'. So we have to work within the realities of the world we have (and have created and shaped - for good or bad).
Always good to dream. But also good to think about how dreams can be made to apply in the real world (with all the limitations of the world we live in).
Your argument is “guns don’t kill people, people kill people,” or by extension “If we don’t let people have nuclear weapons, they’ll just use knives or rocks.”
Moreover, reducing this to the libertarian argument of personal responsibility is as sick as blaming people for getting sick with cancer because they didn’t take care to avoid carcinogens. We can’t avoid interacting with AI and more than we can avoid drinking microplastics - especially if we do not know it’s in our pipes.
>>"Your argument is “guns don’t kill people, people kill people,”"
NO! This is not MY argument. That is 'your' STRAWMAN interpretation of my comment. That is YOUR 'strawman argument' fallacy.
>>"...reducing this to the libertarian argument of personal responsibility..."
Do you even read any of my comments? Or do you just 'cherry-pick' and take things out of context and apply them however you wish?
Read my comments again (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/it-should-be-illegal-to-use-ai-to/comment/180570844) where I explicitly say "I am pro-regulation on AI technologies (and on many other industries and organizations). Here's the TL;DR-> regulation is NECESSARY, but not SUFFICIENT. Not only that, what is really important is 'the kind of regulation', 'the kind of enforcement of regulation', the spill-over effects of regulations, and WHO will be the regulator and 'who will be the regulated'."
Regulation on its own will NOT solve the problems created by AI technologies (and the way they are used by those in power - i.e. TPTB). We (the people) need to ADAPT and LEARN THE SKILLS of working/understanding/recognizing AI technologies and EVOLVE societal solutions (and personal ones) - like critical thinking, media literacy, etc. Yes, the RESPONSIBILITY of learning these skills to protect us is OURS. Did you even read Caitlin's article? "Nobody's Coming To Humanity's Rescue; We've Got To Save Ourselves" (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/nobodys-coming-to-humanitys-rescue)
>>"We can’t avoid interacting with AI and more than we can avoid drinking microplastics"
Yes, unfortunately that is going to be our reality (whether I wish it or not). There is a certain amount of EXPLICIT control that we have (for eg. if I choose not to use social media or cell phones or computers), but there are many IMPLICIT uses of AI technologies (that people are not even aware of) that will be 'baked into' the very ordinary 'everyday' products we consume and the activities we pursue and partake in.
Please work on getting more lucid, Slightly Lucid. Do I really have to explain the sentence to you? Still using 'taking parts of a sentence and applying them out of context" tactics?
Here's the sentence (in context):
" if it isn't AI technologies that are used for this, then it will be OTHER technologies (like language, propaganda, narratives, etc.) to DECEIVE people."
What that translates to is that "making AI technologies illegal" is NOT goint to stop people from being deceived. People have been deceived throughout history - before the advent of AI, and will continue to be deceived in the future (with or without AI).
Knowing the above, HOW does a society (including at the 'individual entity' level) combat 'such deception'? Suggestions to this are provided in my comment - increasing awareness, critical thinking skills, media literacy skills, deeper understand of how AI technologies work, etc.
Caitln wasn’t discussing “outlawing” these technologies. She was advocating regulation.
FFS you are aggressive.
“Personal Responsibility” excercises, such as learning or teaching critical thinking to combat the dangers of these technologies is quite nearly quixotic without tech regulation. WE FUCKING DONT HAVE A CHOICE TO NOT USE AI. We aren’t being allowed to opt out.
Libraries have done away with their card catalogs. Microfiche has been digitized. AI has created the ability to erase from the record history, memory, journalism.
More than this, surveillance AI already knows more about you or I than we know about ourselves. Even before LLMs, algorithms could accurately predict the timing of our most intimate decisions and milestones.
These larger models can distinguish our deeper personal traits, including our political leanings, our critical thinking levels, our hormonal and health cycles.
We probably are not going to stop AI generated videos from being on the internet so it should be illegal to post them without clearly showing that they are AI generated.
If you've worked in the 'high-tech security industry' (cybersecurity) or understand how pathogens and the human immune system works/interacts, it is ALWAYS a 'cat-and-mouse' game. A soon as 'exploits' are found (either by hackers or by attackers of the human immune system), solutions are found to 'those' exploits. Then, to counter the 'solutions to the exploit', new exploits are developed (similar to the mutation of viruses, etc. to fend-off attacks by the immune system).
This 'you counter with this and I will counter that with this' continues to eternity (human evolution based on changing environments is also another example of this).
I can already envision multiple work-arounds to 'it should be illegal to post AI material without transparency, etc.'. And if 'simple little me' can see ways around it, I'm sure 'capitalists and those in power' will find ways to circumvent any such regulations (as they already do in so many industries).
So I doubt 'making things illegal' (and the real and practical issues with enforcing such laws) will solve anything. Deeper thinking is required for this, and I don't know anyone that has workable answers/solutions to this problem (but simply making things illegal will not address or solve the problem).
Yes. Simply making 'drugs illegal' has not solved the problem, has it? Simply making 'so many things illegal' (including slavery, prostitution, killing innocent people - for eg. Gaza, etc.) has not stopped or solved any of the problems, has it?
So, deeper thinking is needed to solve such complex problems (and regulation is a part of it but it is not everything).
generally agree with chang's take above (in that it is again another tool for empire to get into our minds and for capitalism to get into our pockets). but i also think at the end is unnecessarily adversial ('... blanket 'black-and-white' approach to making things illegal ...' - imo it's not 'blanket').
IF GEORGE ORWELL WERE ON HIS FEET TODAY, he'd drop to his knees.
Please, he'd beg us.
For Pete's sake, you idiots.
Stop using the term "Orwellian."
Great myriads repeat a popular error/catachresis/solecism/mal-nomer, which many should know better, this use of the word *"Orwellian." The claims of why "Orwellian" was coined stand in contradiction to Orwell's own view on the matter elucidated by his work if one reads it carefully and honestly. Orwell himself would have never wanted it - that there be a term "Orwellian"- if, again, one takes the time to learn why. He didn't want his pen surname to be used as a naming convention to describe what he was describing _[Soviet Communism]_ rather he wanted us to use language accurately, correctly, orderly, precisely, properly and soundly thus intelligently, so call it what it is = *authoritarianism.* _[as is shown NE-F]._ Look up why not to use Orwellian;
Without deploying the term "paradoxical" or the phrase 'filled with internal contradictions' the bare minimum of basic elements is lacking for any meaningful discussion on the topic titled the descriptive phrase "Orwellian."
Joseph got it right. Authentic spirituality is looking within. Studying an ancient 2,000 year old dusty book is not where you'll find it. He is a God of the living, not of the dead.
Fair point, and a well-written op-ed. But you could argue that "authoritarianism" or even "totalitarianism" is not sufficient in this case. My intention was to convey a certain flavor of totalitarianism - one that is futuristic, technocratic, and global - not just any kind of authoritarianism that we've seen in the past. This is what Orwell, I believe, was warning us about. No, he wasn't just describing Soviet Communism, though he I'm sure he drew some inspiration from that. Rather, there is some evidence that he was connected to a secret society that was actually planning the kind of global dystopia he wrote about.
"But you could argue that "authoritarianism" or even "totalitarianism" is not sufficient in this case..."
Why do you think that? We are witnessing the rise of Technocratic Feudalism. The NWO / JWO etc kings of the earth are deliberately destroying the post-Industrialisation birth of the middle class, they want to take us back to kings and serfs... it's been part of their agenda for at least a century. So it is very much i discern a totalitarian and/or authoritarian rulership rising but now there is the fact of having advanced technology Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao Tse Tung etc could have only ever dreamed about. The word "Technocracy" as part of it's definition of 'rule by the Technocrats' [BigTech etc], already infers a Collectivist dark scientific dictatorship.
" My intention was to convey a certain flavor of totalitarianism - one that is futuristic, technocratic, and global - not just any kind of authoritarianism that we've seen in the past. This is what Orwell, I believe, was warning us about."
Yes you are correct, these are generally my thoughts also. He was very much describing Sovietism if you spend the time to read why he became disillusioned with it and what was the impetus for him to author Nineteen Eighty-Four. These sensational claims that he was connected to a secret society is a popular fraud spread in conspiracy community for years to attempt to discredit his sincere attempt to warn us to NEVER let Sovietism become resurrected in a time of technological advancement [hence why he wrote NE-F]. He was warning the world, not a part of the plan. He was warning us with all he was that if we are not vigilant to guard our freedoms with utmost attention, that we will be compelled, under the guise of "Beneficent Technocracy" into an ultra dank, dark, de-man-ising, depressing, dismal, dreary chilling cold cacotopia nightmare. We will own nothing, they will own everything, and not us, but they will be happy.
Agreed that he was not a part of the plot. And no, I don't think most conspiracy theorists try to make that case. They just say that he was loosely connected to insiders or whistleblowers who were privy to the global elites' plans.
The WEF's Agenda 2030 is just the most updated version known to the public. Sovietism, Stalinism, Communist China, etc are all testing grounds and early prototypes for what's being planned globally.
Re: authoritarianism - I use "Orwellian" to conjure up specific images in people's minds - dystopian, global, technocratic - which is much closer to my actual meaning than "authoritarian." Many liberals these days hear authoritarian and they just think of Trump's efforts to destroy the Constitution and turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany. But you're right - I don't want to imply that the author espouses the views that he writes about.
The world's most powerful and influential families -- Rockefellers, Rothschilds, the so-called "Black Nobility" -- along with their billionaire frontmen in Big Tech, Finance, and Global Planning.
Thank you for sending me to online search to learn me some his\herstory not included in any curricula through my education. I didn't think the Black Nobility were friends\partners of O.J. Simpson, yet I also didn't expect to find a wiki page on a bloomin' and bloody conspiracy theory of the Feudal Age European 19th C.
Raise yer hands if you cannot recall ever hearing the Black Nobility of Feudal Europe referenced as context for either of the World Wars or the morphing of Feudal and Vatican Euro monarchies into the East\West schisms launched by our 20th and 21st C. contemporary Perma War E-Con-o-mies....
Noel, should you ever launch a Substack or other accessible and affordable info page on the Black Nobility or similar 19th through 21st century Nation-State conspiracies of this scope please do reach out to US corporate-captured news hounds among US of this only digitally literate Western Empire!
Appreciatively yours,
Tio Mitchito™
Mitch Ritter
Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of A-Tone-ment Seekers)
Thanks, Mitch lol. Glad to inspire your independent learning and discovery outside of the educational orthodoxy! I haven't actually done that much research into the Black Nobility myself, but a number of other Substackers have -- Derrick Broze is definitely one of them.
AI has the tremendous potential to do both good and harm. Under governments now as incompetent and immoral as they are the potential for harm is great.
De-regulation is the name of the game and it has to be strictly regulated.
Under good competent government it is a valuable asset. Under fascist incompetent government it is just another tool of mass deception.
AI is a powerful technology we are not ready or responsible enough to integrate into our societies effectively.
As usual technology races ahead of social progress, and inept governance.
"tremendous potential to do both good and harm." We have some pretty good ideas about the harm, already clear and present danger, but I keep hearing about the potential for good, without getting a clear picture of just what exactly that good is, and whether it is possible at all, much less how it is to be balanced against harm, and what level of harm is acceptable. Can you enlighten us?
A fair question. Note that the real problem with A.I. is the lack of regulation in a Capitalistic society where the billionaires have now captured the regulatory bodies that are suppose to regulate them and their corporations. All under the ideology that less regulations are better for everyone, when it turns out, it's just better for the Billionaire profits, at the expense of a ton of other things society could benefit from - if it wasn't so profit/greed driven by a handful of sociopaths.
It is true that AI could potentially replace many mundane jobs. And I believe it's going to happen very soon, no matter the consequence. Now if regulations were in place, where the Productivity dividends of AI/robotic replacements (of say package Handling, CSR phone answering, even Trucking) were allowed to be spent on the Workers themselves (instead of the Owner Capitalists) - Americans would have much more free time to themselves to focus on other parts of their lives other than just work, work, work - which being overworked leads to a boatload of mental issues and physical problems especially as you get older. So with regulations, and non-corrupt governmental oversight, AI could relieve Americans from a meaningless existence of working 60-70 hours a week just to get by. The problem which is obvious, however, is that the benefits of AI will go to the top 1% and not to the poor - given our current corrupt system and corrupt governance.
Again, to not make this a long comment. WITH PROPER REGULATORY CONTROL. AI could:
- Be an able and capable assistant to healthcare doctors and nurses (but not replace them). AI robots could perform minor non-life threatening surgeries (think Star Trek).
But again, will never replace the comprehensive, general intelligence of a conscious doctor. For example, Dephi-2M Ai is a "generative transformer model" - and captures patient multimorbidity by analyzing over 1,000 conditions at once.
-Machine learning AI has already contributed significantly to Scientific discoveries and research. For example, protein folding, and predicting the linear chain of amino acids - an AI system "AlphaFold" was developed in 2020. AI also can sift through mountains of scientific data, such as data generated by the Hadron Collider.
-In China, autonomous trucks are gaining momentum. But China is doing it with strong regulations, and for safety purposes, building single lanes on their freeways that allow only the unmanned trucks. This of course, delivers huge economic benefits for a country, but again assuming those benefits are not just handed over to the super rich - but spent to increase the general welfare of the entire country. AI also has a number of other economic windfalls when applied.
OK - so I listed a few. There is a ton more of benefits. But I agree with Caitlin here, that unless there is some kind of regulatory oversight on AI, or if AI is used to deliberately deceive people for purposes that remain hidden to the American public - there should absolutely be laws against it. But the problem is not the technology itself - it's the corruption of the social system we now have in Western societies - where the obscenely rich and their corporations have turned "regulations" into a bad word - claimed anything the government does is "evil" - and you got a bunch of libertarians worshiping these same billionaire assholes - while the masses continue to get screwed.
Prompt ->Selected real-world positive AI uses with specific examples
(1) Medical imaging & diagnostics — earlier, more accurate detection
Deep learning reads chest X‑rays and CTs to detect pneumonia, lung nodules, intracranial hemorrhage. Example: Aidoc and Zebra Medical Vision are used in hospitals to triage acute CT findings and accelerate radiologist review.
(2) Cancer genomics / treatment personalization
AI models analyze tumor DNA and clinical data to recommend targeted therapies and predict drug response. Example: Tempus and Foundation Medicine combine genomic sequencing with ML to guide oncologists’ therapy choices.
(3) Drug discovery — faster candidate identification
Generative models and ML reduce time/cost to identify molecules and predict properties. Example: Insilico Medicine and Exscientia used AI to design clinical‑candidate molecules, shortening discovery timelines.
(4) Eye disease screening — accessible preventive care
Automated retinal image analysis detects diabetic retinopathy and macular degeneration enabling screening in primary care. Example: Google’s DeepMind/Google Health models and IDx‑DR deployed in clinics to screen and refer patients.
(5) Precision agriculture — higher yield, less waste
Computer vision + satellite/drone imagery identify crop stress, pests, and irrigation needs so farmers apply inputs precisely. Example: Climate Corporation, Taranis, and EOSDA provide field‑level prescriptions that reduce water and pesticide use.
Sensor data + ML forecast equipment faults so companies schedule repairs before breakdowns. Example: GE Predix and Siemens’ MindSphere are used in manufacturing and energy to reduce downtime and maintenance expense.
(7) Energy grid optimization & renewables integration
ML forecasts demand and renewable output to balance grids and reduce curtailment. Example: AutoGrid and Google DeepMind’s work with National Grid/UK projects to improve wind/solar dispatch and storage use.
(8) Disaster response & humanitarian aid
Satellite imagery + ML map damage after earthquakes/floods and prioritize relief. Example: Microsoft’s AI for Humanitarian Action and UNOSAT use imagery and models to speed assessments and aid delivery.
(9) Wildlife conservation & anti‑poaching
Camera‑trap image classification and acoustic monitoring detect species and illegal activity. Example: PAWS (Protection Assistant for Wildlife Security) schedules patrols; Wildlife Acoustic and Conservation Metrics analyze audio/camera data.
(10) Traffic management & safer roads
Real‑time traffic prediction and signal optimization reduce congestion and accidents. Example: Surtrac adaptive traffic signals and INRIX/Google Maps routing that cut travel time and idling emissions.
ML spots anomalous transactions to block fraud and automates document review for compliance. Example: Mastercard and Visa use ML for transaction fraud scoring; banks use NLP tools to analyze contracts and regulatory filings.
Systems personalize lessons to student pace and provide automated tutoring/transcription. Example: Duolingo’s adaptive exercises; Khan Academy’s practice recommendations and Carnegie Learning’s ALEKS for math.
(13) Customer service automation (augmenting humans)
Conversational AI handles routine queries and routes complex cases to humans, improving response time. Example: Zendesk/Intercom bots plus human agents; banks and utilities deploy chatbots for basic support.
(14) Supply chain & logistics optimization
Demand forecasting and routing reduce inventory waste and delivery costs. Example: Amazon uses ML for inventory placement and delivery routing; DHL uses AI for warehouse optimization.
(15) Accessibility tools — inclusion for people with disabilities
Real‑time captioning, text‑to‑speech, image descriptions help users interact with content. Example: Microsoft’s Seeing AI, Google Live Transcribe, and Apple VoiceOver improvements.
(16) Environmental monitoring & climate science
ML models improve climate forecasts, map emissions, and optimize carbon removal techniques. Example: Google Earth Engine + ML for deforestation monitoring; research projects using ML to model ice‑sheet dynamics.
If you want, I can produce a short one‑page PDF summarizing 6 of these use cases with sources and projected impacts.
* Zehir, A. et al., “Mutational landscape of metastatic cancer from prospective clinical sequencing of 10,000 patients” Nature Medicine 2017. <https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.4333.pdf>
* Jardine, A. K. S., Lin, D. & Banjevic, D., “A review on machinery diagnostics and prognostics implementing condition‑based maintenance” Mechanical Systems and Signal Processing 2006. <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0888327005001159> (PDF via publisher)
* W. L. et al., “Using machine learning to detect poaching from ranger patrol data” Conservation Biology (PAWS project papers). <https://www.paws.stanford.edu/publications> (see linked papers)
* W. T. & Chopra, S., “Supply chain management: Strategy, planning, and operation” (industry applications papers on ML forecasting) — multiple case studies (Amazon/DHL) via company pages.
* Rasp, S., Pritchard, M. & Gentine, P., “Deep learning to represent subgrid processes in climate models” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) 2020. <https://www.pnas.org/content/117/39/21170> (PDF via publisher)
* Zebra Medical Vision (now part of Nanox / research): <https://www.zebra-med.com/publications/> and journal validations (see e.g., Poplin et al., Nature Medicine 2018 for related retinal imaging methods)
* Cancer genomics / treatment personalization (Tempus, Foundation Medicine)
The sophisticated software deceitfully called "AI" was inherently bound to end up being used for evil far more than for noble reasons because we live in a world ruled by diabolists, not angelists. Governments are more corrupt than ever, and it's not so much also incompetence though there is that, but rather it's a Freemason big club and you obey your superiors lest you want to be destroyed by the Jew MSM etc.
The over use of Fascist is nauseating. I'm Italian, my parents were subjected to Mussolini's regime, many who use the word "Fascist" actually don't even know how it's meant to be understood when applied.
There are those who believe that Mussolini is not quoted as stating these words word for word ->"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." however the quote is a paraphrase of Mussolini's views from his 1932 article "The Doctrine of Fascism," ["We are, in other words, a state which controls all forces acting in nature. We control political forces, we control moral forces, we control economic forces, therefore we are a full-blown Corporative state."], co-authored with Giovanni Gentile, where he describes the fascist state's integration of corporate and government interests. This particular wording, which some believe was Mr. Gentile's summary of Mussolini's DoF, was popularised later to encapsulate Mussolini’s ideology.
The same document explains that the "corporations" (corporazioni) on which the Fascist state rested were its own inventions, modelled not on private companies but on guild associations.
"Fascism" is constantly used by the Left to the point of abuse, confuse, misuse etc. To me what we are witnessing is a plan at least a century and a half old, of the formation of what is called by the rulers New World Order / Novus Ordo Seclorum Agenda. The Banksters are at the top [see the documentary, recent one called "The Great Taking" and an older one called "The Money Masters"] and with them is the Bank of International Settlements/BIS, the IMF [run by the Rothschilds] and many other locked-in-step global organisations like United Nations 2100 A.D. Agenda [Go view a talk by the late Rosa Koire - It's called *The Green Mask*] - i do not agree with her all her politics but surprisingly she actually is more Libertarian and exposes quite a bit the true nefarious and sinister UN Agenda 2100 A.D. which is all part of the Global Governance Agenda = Technocracy = a nightmare monster hybrid of Communism, Fascism, and Socialism that masquerades as "Capitalism". Crony Capitalism is not Free Market, it's the beginnings of the transition to Technocratic Feudalism.
The aim in part for this push to put us on all electric for energy sources is to purposely have a way they are able to micro-manage us, track us down to the micro-watt and tax us and thus supremely to gain control over the smallest parts of our lives, the minutia, so they will have an unprecedented control and power over our lives - an invisible electronic prison, thus a panopticon, all is monitored, tagged, tracked, databased etc. An indisputable dank, dark, de-man-ising, depressing, dismal, dreary, chilling cold cacotopia nightmare never seen on earth, hence why we ***MUST*** with all we are resist this Technocratic takeover by the most powerful and wealthy nihilists / diabolists _[the kings of the earth]_ in the world for there are far more of us than them, if we enough of us do not comply, they are unable to gain such far and wide and deep and great control over us.
AI is a type of false advertising: false advertising is against the law.therefore AI when used to deceive, and that is often, should be against the law.
Dear Doris Eisler: You seem middle-named to deal with this dilemma! Or have you 'monkeyed' around with it contributing to our social\anti-social dilemma?
I dunno. But I have found that people often feel somehow directed in their attitude/behaviour by their name. I had 8 siblings, and I seem to have been the only trouble-maker - only with ideas, though.
Of course, it comes from Sickmind/Sigmund Freud's nephew Edward Bernays, the father of the Advertising/Marketing industry aka Propaganda applied to Consumerism;
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." Edward Bernays
"We are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind." Edward Bernays
"If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it." Edward Bernays
"We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays
I politely disagree. Acceptable human behaviour ought to be determined and reinforced by a healthy society that recognizes when something or someone strays beyond the pale. Arguably that is what "the law" is for": codifying the boundaries and specifying consequences.
Unfortunately our current legal system has devolved into a cudgel for the rich and powerful few to harass, compel, and exploit the poor, less powerful, less well connected many. Undoubtedly, little time would pass until the sort of law you envision was consistently used to squash dissenting perspectives and voices. Honest attempts to combat the dominant narrative, would be severely punished, while brazen malarkey in service of that narrative would thrive untouched.
I think your main message, that what our society needs is a collective awakening, is more to the point.
Absolutely 100% agreed about the billionaires soon to be trillionaires. But its not a matter of just fixing the laws, it is also necessary to fix the legal system.
Examples of abuse of the legal system by the rich and powerful are everywhere; I'm sure you can recite some of your own. Selective enforcement, making litigation too drawn out and expensive to be possible for the less well off, escaping the intent of well-meaning laws using loopholes and technicalities, forcing your customers to sign user agreements substituting "arbitration" for lawsuits, the list is endless...
Yes. Both our Executive and Legislative branches have been corrupted (by monied interests) - creating a screwed up judicial branch in the process, along with a corrupted Supreme court.
How the US eventually gets out of this current mess is beyond me, and it seems like it won't. The Judicial branch is the only institution left that stands somewhat between the billionaires and the People these days; especially the US Constitution, if not perverted with absurdly concocted interpretations by a corrupted Supreme Court.
Even though I agree with you that the Judicial branch is the least corrupt of the bunch, the Supreme Court is an excellent example of why it's not as simple as just passing new laws...
I think that gets back to my original point (and CJ's long time theme): we need some sort of collective awakening. Somehow we have to realize that we are all deeply connected, that it makes no sense to try to exploit others for our own gain; no more sense than it would to let your left hand freeze so your right hand could stay warm.
I think the problem starts with the Constitution that accords legal standing to the possession of property. That is rigging the game from the getgo. The Bill of Rights is a useless band-aid that purports to be a weight against the document's total dismissal of people with no property. The Constitution is a plan to ignore social justice as a value or aspiration.
I have never before agreed more with you than on this point. That was the first thought that popped into my mind when I first read about AI. AI can be used to make anyone, no matter how innocent, seem to be a murderer, a thief, a criminal of any kind.
I honourably request you make the time to read the following articles, a small sampling of the minority of authentically many years wide-field experienced and erudite in computer science and other disciplines that intersect with it;
And how does this help people understand when they/we are being conned by it, whatever letters you want it to be under?
We do not have to know which applies just whether or not it's a conjob.
And it's already happening in so-called films. I was almost caught out on one the other day, no mention of it being animation, AI, AS or ACGI but some parts didn't quite gel, like hair length being suddenly shorter when the person(?) was still part of a conversation - just one example. So I scrolled to the end to see if there was a character list, nope, not one.
I'm guessing this was a test to see how much they can get away with when not using actors but look-a-likes. Writers are already worried about this with AI writing books, being used to write letters cheat at exams etc., so I guess actors must be worried about their profession being cut out as well.
So according to you, we should call a man a woman, a dog a cat, a cat a dog, a fish a bird, a bird a fish, a spade a club, a club a spade, a GM a Ford, a Ford a GM, a skyscraper a bungalow, a bungalow a skyscraper, a toilet a sink, a bathtub the toilet etc... correct?
Now you're just been silly. The only people lie who have to know the exact titles, according to you, are the people in the business. I wouldn't expect you to know the Latin names for body parts but we'd know what you meant by heart, stomach etc.
Caitlin, you had me agreeing all the way up to this sentence: "Governments should intervene to end these assaults on our ability to perceive and understand our world."
How do we know that it isn't our governments who are fueling at least some of these AI frauds/misinformation stunts in order to manipulate us to act or believe the way they want us to? I agree that AI used to defraud and lead people astray should be outlawed, but what if our government isn't trustworthy? What if they're in on the deal? What if they want AI 'bots to drive mentally unstable people to commit suicide to rid them of "surplus population"?
If they don't ever want to give us universal health care in the US, I could see Trump and friends using AI to drive as many of us around the bend as possible so they can take our homes/lands/bank accounts after we've all jumped off a cliff. If they want people to join the military so they can start a war for oil/rare earths, then why wouldn't the government create realistic AI videos "proving" that we've been attacked? I think AI should be outlawed altogether and anyone caught using it is criminal--individual, corporation or government.
Well, we sure can't leave it up to the billionaires or Wallstreet.
So yeah, it's going to have to be government. But it sure the fuck isn't going to be the corrupt one we got now. So, we're all in a huge dumpster fire at the moment. Can't trust corporations. Can't trust billionaires. And you can't trust a corrupted government (corrupted by the billionaires). So - a lot of things are going to burn, before it gets better. And who knows, it may not get any better - we may end up in hell anyhow.
When you've got folks offing themselves after counseling by an AI bot, you know "civilization" has hit the nadir of its capitalistic slime bath. And even the Times runs the story.
The nadir? If this were truly the bottom I wouldn't be all that worried.
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." And then it got worse.
Naturally, i hope you're wrong, but I suspect that in a dying, whimpering empire, you just might be right that we ain't seen the worst of it. I'm just trying to compress my time frame.
Well said Mr. LoPresti. Frightening to think that AI bots are able to deceive people so well as to convince people to want to commit suicide.
Digital Mass Euthanesia. The most valued tool in our panopticon.
well said Möebius. And unfortunately, it seems to be one increasingly utilized by the powers that be to further dumb down the masses so they can make the real world -changing decisions behind the scenes, with no interference or interruption.
But how to turn this around?
That's the key question. One way is to reduce our screen time as much as we can and continue to value genuine human connection and relationships. Another is to educate ourselves through the "old-fashioned" ways of reading books, seeking out knowledgeable people about various fields and asking questions. One more way is to reduce hyper consumerism and the constant need to purchase products we don't need with money we don't have. I guess my point is that we disrupt their methods of mass dumbing down of our intellect and their ways of getting us to spend as much money as possible so we can be further exploited by the oligarch and corporation
Indeed very good points, some are a double edged knife.
I for instance find myself maximising screen time to share my views on all of this.
Consumerism is a big trap.
I try to make people see how the x-mas shopping at the end of the fiscal year is feeding our enemy.
Best would be to cancel the x-mas gift nonsense or eventually move it to January and give BlackRock and the likes a fiscal headache to kick off 2026.
This would render the "Dutch Irish tax evasion sandwich" very flat.
It's just software. Vin, di dove sei? Your last name i know what it means in part "Vecchio" = Old..
cafone = boor. Oaf, Dolt. So old dolt.
L'affronto preferito della mia nonna. My maternal grandmother's favorite insult to dunderheads who ticked her off. Quella nonna deriva di Piemonte. But my other half's Sicilian.
Sure, it's just software -- badly curated by entrepreneurs looking to turn a market around that's currently looking like shit in terms of ROI. Gary Marcus is pretty trustworthy on the real state of affairs with Altman and that bunch. Not a particularly trustworthy cadre of indiividuals.
Hahahha old dolt.. well that is not true obviously.
Your nonna makes me miss mine. My parents are from Puglia, and where your genitori are from, such beautiful places.
Since you referenced ROI and the Romans 1:18-32 qualified Altman, perhaps you might find some meat in this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m227RMSrN9o
Also, check these out, perpiacere, articles by the minority of honest acutely wise computer scientists types
https://coqdiddles.com/2023/07/20/artificial-intelligence-doesnt-exist-actually
https://web.archive.org/web/20230921152744/https://goodwordnews.com/artificial-intelligence-does-not-exist
Thanks for the links. I know there are some honest actors out there and likewise the blowhards telling us that AGI is just around the corner (yah right!). Me, I'm just a curious observer of the fray.
Puglia's one area of the boot I unfortunately never got to visit. Sometimes I wish I'd made more of an effort to expatriate there years ago.
Thumbs up. Nessun problema per i link, paesano, grazie per averlo apprezzato. The claims "AGI" is just around the corner, is a super crack pipe dream they are selling to swindle us with another super scam, hence why i presented the first link. I've been using computers since the early 80s, learned [and always learning] to use them, have experience in being a 'computer doctor' + software design etc, have used over at least 1000 different different software applications and sorry, the claim "AI" exists, one of the next best super spiritual deceptions upon on us.... the same ones who told us "trust the science", '2 weeks to flatten the curve', 'trust the science', 'safe and effective', '9 Arabs flew planes into the Twin Towers', 'It's the Russians/Hunter Biden laptop' etcetera etcetera are the same super maggot liars who are telling us "AI" exists in our reality. It should be called "SA"/Sophisticated Algorithms or some similar term that infers it's man-invented, not some science fantasy/fiction term that will NEVER exist in our God created nature of reality.
About Puglia, too bad you never had a chance to visit, i'm increasingly thinking of moving to where my parents came from, because I'm in Toronto.. and it's becoming increasingly NWO/JWO Technocratic cacotopia... have to escape the cities.. but problem is... i'm crippled, it makes things much harder. If i do make back to my parents homeland, i will surely visit where your family is from, more such beyond words beautiful areas.
Sad to hear that we're both disabled and both in large urban environments. Best of luck if you do attempt a move.
"Sometimes I wish I'd made more of an effort to expatriate there years ago."
Not from Italy, but I share the sentiment, rather odd to reverse my family's experience in desiring a better life. Look what life is becoming here.
CJ>>"It Should Be Illegal To Use AI To Deceive People"
Caitlin, if it isn't AI technologies that are used for this, then it will be OTHER technologies (like language, propaganda, narratives, etc.) to DECEIVE people. You're blaming 'a tool' rather than the SOURCE of the problem - which is 'lack of critical thinking, media literacy, and most of all, the SYSTEM of Capitalism'.
None of the things you mention is likely to be illegal in the US (though China is ACTUALLY making REAL strides in terms of regulating AI) (Watch this video for more on that: "AI for the People? China's Strategy for Technology, Inequality, and the Global South" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuGRO6juOY).
People have been manipulated throughout history - be it with religious narratives, or others, be it with newspapers, public speeches, radio, television, movies, the internet and social media, and more. AI is the next evolution of technologies that will be used by those in power to enact and maintain the SAME status-quo systems that have existed BEFORE AI.
If you (or anyone) REALLY wants to fix these issues you mention, then they are likely to achieve BETTER results by focusing on the root/source of the problem, which is 'the easily hackable and manipulable human mind'. There are tools to address this problem (like critical thinking, media literacy, empathy, education, socialism, and more), but how many of 'us' (ordinary people) take the initiative of 'applying these tools' to solve the problem?
Regulation will help, but it will NOT solve the problem (no matter how much I wish it to). People need to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their own thoughts, actions, and words. Like you wrote in your recent article, "Nobody's Coming To Humanity's Rescue; We've Got To Save Ourselves", REGULATION is not coming to save us from AI - WE have got to save OURSELVES. People need to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY to 'learn the skills' so as NOT to be taken advantage of by AI technologies (or anything else).
I don't agree with your blanket 'black-and-white' approach to making things illegal - as such technologies (like AI) will be so deeply embedded in human societies (like the internet, cell phones, etc.) and there will be SO MANY nuanced usages of such technologies, that your 'make all this AI stuff illegal' wants/emotions/frustrations deviates from practical feasibility and real-world realities.
I disagree. Regulation needs to come to AI for all the reasons Caitlin mentions. We do have to save ourselves. That's why we came together to live in clans then tribes then towns then provinces, and countries in the first place. We're inherently social beings -interdependent beings... We are not separate islands. And coming together, we decide what we need to make our lives safer.
I don't like anyone telling me what to do. But I appreciate stoplights on our streets, food and workplace safety regulations and so many other things that I couldn't possibly take care of by myself.
This situation Caitlin brings up is a social one, and a big one. Just look at our world today. How many people are able to break away from their conditioning to begin to see the world as it is not how we want it to be - or how we were taught it would be. How many even know they need to do it? Most of us think what we see with our own eyes is what it is... the coiled rope is a snake. Think about it. We really need this regulation.
I think you mis-interpreted my comment. I am pro-regulation on AI technologies (and on many other industries and organizations).
Here's the TL;DR-> regulation is NECESSARY, but not SUFFICIENT. Not only that, what is really important is 'the kind of regulation', 'the kind of enforcement of regulation', the spill-over effects of regulations, and WHO will be the regulator and 'who will be the regulated'.
As an example, consider the regulation of 'drugs' and the 'war on drugs'. As another example, consider the self-regulation of industries such as finance, the regulation of risk, and the back-room deals between the regulators and the regulated. Consider how regulation can be used in multiple ways - including deciding winners and losers.
Regulation is a complex and ever-changing topic of discussion and problems. We all know that it is needed (which is NOT the question under consideration), but we don't know ENOUGH about AI technologies yet to design EFFECTIVE regulations that serve the purpose we need them to. (There are many examples from history of unintended consequences of poorly-thought-out regulations). Simply making 'things ILLEGAL' is NOT the answer (far from it).
Something important questions to keep in mind -> (1) who makes the regulations?, (2) who enforces the regulations? (remember, we are talking of global contexts here), (3) who decides (1) and (2)?, and (4) who decides who decides?
For another perspective, here is a good article to read -> "Panic at the Techno" (https://666673.substack.com/p/panic-at-the-techno)
sorry, I did misinterpret your position. And the questions you raise are most important. I read the panic article and it seems to boil down to "it'll all be OK." which it will, of course... in the big picture... it always is.
After I wrote my comment... I stumbled on this podcast on China dealing with this same problem plus other issues around AI -loss of jobs,etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuGRO6juOY
cheers....
Yes, I already included that link in the comment that you replied to ->
"None of the things you mention is likely to be illegal in the US (though China is ACTUALLY making REAL strides in terms of regulating AI) (Watch this video for more on that: "AI for the People? China's Strategy for Technology, Inequality, and the Global South" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuGRO6juOY)."
And I don't think "it'll be all OK". Even the present is 'NOT ok', and I have no adequate reasons/evidence to believe that 'the future' will be OK. I actually have SERIOUS CONCERNS around AI technologies (but my perspective is nuanced and I am neither a HYPER (of AI or any other technologies) nor a DOOMER (i.e. the world is ending).
"Big picture = all good"
I was surprised years ago, when I read J Krishnamurti's response to a question about the horrors of the world. He said "if you could get high enough and look down and see the world as one, you would see that it's perfect just as it is" (I paraphrase here) for every good there is a bad, every positive there is a negative... it all balances out... a zero sum game. I know that to be true. But in my day-to-day, in the mix of life, playing my part, it becomes very serious.
All good points, Chang. I had a similar reaction when I read the note that proceeded the essay. IMO Caitlin’s concerns are on point, but I’m skeptical about the proposed solutions.
https://666673.substack.com/p/panic-at-the-techno
I recommend everyone here read Brad Moore's very insightful perspective on the subject of 'technological regulation' ["Panic at the Techno" (https://666673.substack.com/p/panic-at-the-techno)]
Thank you!
Thank you for this: reassuring words indeed, IF we as a human race, manage to NOT be swallowed up by AI videos, deep fake propaganda and general AI generated nonsense. BUT are we capable of evolving sufficiently rapidly? (And secret fear of a HAL 9000 slowly going bonkers fill my imagination..)
You’re right; that is the relevant question. I find it reassuring that it’s been asked through the ages, and so far the answer has been “yes we can.” But living through step function technology change is unsettling on both the personal and societal levels.
Arthur C. Clarke said more than 60 years ago that “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” The conversational interface of Gen AI is the most uncanny valley yet, designed as it is to make personifying it nearly irresistible. But it’s only a tool; there’s a person behind it. We have to focus on the aims of the people who built it as well as those who wield
It. Caitlin is right to raise the alarm about its misuse. I think it’s also important to master its use. How better to understand its limits—and potential benefits?
As for consensus reality, all the old rules of the rumor mill still apply. We each have to create our own webs of trust and use them to question the narratives being pushed at us from all sides. We each have to maintain awareness that persuasion and manipulation are a pervasive aspect of human society. We have to do our own work to clarify our personal values and define our ethical and moral standards. These things aren’t easy, but they also aren’t new challenges.
You wrote: If you (or anyone) REALLY wants to fix these issues you mention, then they are likely to achieve BETTER results by focusing on the root/source of the problem, which is 'the easily hackable and manipulable human mind'. There are tools to address this problem (like critical thinking, media literacy, empathy, education, socialism, and more), but how many of 'us' (ordinary people) take the initiative of 'applying these tools' to solve the problem?
To lecture Caitlin Johnstone of all people for failing to do this suggests that you may have read this one post but not her multitude of previous posts. I can't think of anyone who has applied these tools more often than CJ
>>"To lecture Caitlin Johnstone of all people for failing to do this suggests that you may have read this one post but not her multitude of previous posts."
You assume too much. For one, I have been reading Caitlin's writings for over 5 years and deeply respect her morals and writing/thinking skills. For two, Caitlin is HUMAN, just like the rest of us - and ALL humans sometimes make mistakes (in their thinking, amongst other things, letting emotions influence opinions, bias, etc.) - NO human is immune from this.
Hello Chang, Thank you very much for this enlightening contribution. I very much appreciate your sharing of the link.
Chang, Ned was wrong?
Ned Ludd is the legendary person to whom the Luddites attributed the name of their movement. In 1779, Ludd is supposed to have broken two stocking frames in a fit of rage.
Dang Chang ... Testify! 🕺🤙🏼😝
Weaponisation of technology should be illegal.
Yes, it should (in a perfect world), but unfortunately humans have never lived in a 'perfect world'. So we have to work within the realities of the world we have (and have created and shaped - for good or bad).
True, but i have a dream.
Always good to dream. But also good to think about how dreams can be made to apply in the real world (with all the limitations of the world we live in).
The biggest challenge will be to 'end' abuse. Also something that will never really end. So it has to be kept on the radar.
Your argument is “guns don’t kill people, people kill people,” or by extension “If we don’t let people have nuclear weapons, they’ll just use knives or rocks.”
Moreover, reducing this to the libertarian argument of personal responsibility is as sick as blaming people for getting sick with cancer because they didn’t take care to avoid carcinogens. We can’t avoid interacting with AI and more than we can avoid drinking microplastics - especially if we do not know it’s in our pipes.
>>"Your argument is “guns don’t kill people, people kill people,”"
NO! This is not MY argument. That is 'your' STRAWMAN interpretation of my comment. That is YOUR 'strawman argument' fallacy.
>>"...reducing this to the libertarian argument of personal responsibility..."
Do you even read any of my comments? Or do you just 'cherry-pick' and take things out of context and apply them however you wish?
Read my comments again (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/it-should-be-illegal-to-use-ai-to/comment/180570844) where I explicitly say "I am pro-regulation on AI technologies (and on many other industries and organizations). Here's the TL;DR-> regulation is NECESSARY, but not SUFFICIENT. Not only that, what is really important is 'the kind of regulation', 'the kind of enforcement of regulation', the spill-over effects of regulations, and WHO will be the regulator and 'who will be the regulated'."
Regulation on its own will NOT solve the problems created by AI technologies (and the way they are used by those in power - i.e. TPTB). We (the people) need to ADAPT and LEARN THE SKILLS of working/understanding/recognizing AI technologies and EVOLVE societal solutions (and personal ones) - like critical thinking, media literacy, etc. Yes, the RESPONSIBILITY of learning these skills to protect us is OURS. Did you even read Caitlin's article? "Nobody's Coming To Humanity's Rescue; We've Got To Save Ourselves" (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/nobodys-coming-to-humanitys-rescue)
>>"We can’t avoid interacting with AI and more than we can avoid drinking microplastics"
Yes, unfortunately that is going to be our reality (whether I wish it or not). There is a certain amount of EXPLICIT control that we have (for eg. if I choose not to use social media or cell phones or computers), but there are many IMPLICIT uses of AI technologies (that people are not even aware of) that will be 'baked into' the very ordinary 'everyday' products we consume and the activities we pursue and partake in.
it is NOT a strawman argument. You literally said that if it’s not AI, it will be something else.
Please work on getting more lucid, Slightly Lucid. Do I really have to explain the sentence to you? Still using 'taking parts of a sentence and applying them out of context" tactics?
Here's the sentence (in context):
" if it isn't AI technologies that are used for this, then it will be OTHER technologies (like language, propaganda, narratives, etc.) to DECEIVE people."
What that translates to is that "making AI technologies illegal" is NOT goint to stop people from being deceived. People have been deceived throughout history - before the advent of AI, and will continue to be deceived in the future (with or without AI).
Knowing the above, HOW does a society (including at the 'individual entity' level) combat 'such deception'? Suggestions to this are provided in my comment - increasing awareness, critical thinking skills, media literacy skills, deeper understand of how AI technologies work, etc.
Here's another perspective on the subject of AI regulation (if you don't like mine) -> "Panic at the Techno" (https://666673.substack.com/p/panic-at-the-techno)
Caitln wasn’t discussing “outlawing” these technologies. She was advocating regulation.
FFS you are aggressive.
“Personal Responsibility” excercises, such as learning or teaching critical thinking to combat the dangers of these technologies is quite nearly quixotic without tech regulation. WE FUCKING DONT HAVE A CHOICE TO NOT USE AI. We aren’t being allowed to opt out.
Libraries have done away with their card catalogs. Microfiche has been digitized. AI has created the ability to erase from the record history, memory, journalism.
More than this, surveillance AI already knows more about you or I than we know about ourselves. Even before LLMs, algorithms could accurately predict the timing of our most intimate decisions and milestones.
These larger models can distinguish our deeper personal traits, including our political leanings, our critical thinking levels, our hormonal and health cycles.
You vastly underestimate the risks.
We probably are not going to stop AI generated videos from being on the internet so it should be illegal to post them without clearly showing that they are AI generated.
If you've worked in the 'high-tech security industry' (cybersecurity) or understand how pathogens and the human immune system works/interacts, it is ALWAYS a 'cat-and-mouse' game. A soon as 'exploits' are found (either by hackers or by attackers of the human immune system), solutions are found to 'those' exploits. Then, to counter the 'solutions to the exploit', new exploits are developed (similar to the mutation of viruses, etc. to fend-off attacks by the immune system).
This 'you counter with this and I will counter that with this' continues to eternity (human evolution based on changing environments is also another example of this).
I can already envision multiple work-arounds to 'it should be illegal to post AI material without transparency, etc.'. And if 'simple little me' can see ways around it, I'm sure 'capitalists and those in power' will find ways to circumvent any such regulations (as they already do in so many industries).
So I doubt 'making things illegal' (and the real and practical issues with enforcing such laws) will solve anything. Deeper thinking is required for this, and I don't know anyone that has workable answers/solutions to this problem (but simply making things illegal will not address or solve the problem).
Like The War on Drugs!
Yes. Simply making 'drugs illegal' has not solved the problem, has it? Simply making 'so many things illegal' (including slavery, prostitution, killing innocent people - for eg. Gaza, etc.) has not stopped or solved any of the problems, has it?
So, deeper thinking is needed to solve such complex problems (and regulation is a part of it but it is not everything).
generally agree with chang's take above (in that it is again another tool for empire to get into our minds and for capitalism to get into our pockets). but i also think at the end is unnecessarily adversial ('... blanket 'black-and-white' approach to making things illegal ...' - imo it's not 'blanket').
It's ACGI not "AI".
There are ways to stop it which white hat types are becoming better at.
The fact that they're not censoring or policing it tells you it's what they want. Sowing confusion about reality is part of the Orwellian agenda.
"Orwellian"
IF GEORGE ORWELL WERE ON HIS FEET TODAY, he'd drop to his knees.
Please, he'd beg us.
For Pete's sake, you idiots.
Stop using the term "Orwellian."
Great myriads repeat a popular error/catachresis/solecism/mal-nomer, which many should know better, this use of the word *"Orwellian." The claims of why "Orwellian" was coined stand in contradiction to Orwell's own view on the matter elucidated by his work if one reads it carefully and honestly. Orwell himself would have never wanted it - that there be a term "Orwellian"- if, again, one takes the time to learn why. He didn't want his pen surname to be used as a naming convention to describe what he was describing _[Soviet Communism]_ rather he wanted us to use language accurately, correctly, orderly, precisely, properly and soundly thus intelligently, so call it what it is = *authoritarianism.* _[as is shown NE-F]._ Look up why not to use Orwellian;
vanderbiltpoliticalreview.com/10699/culture/op-ed-why-you-should-stop-using-orwellian
Your comment is Orwellian.
Without deploying the term "paradoxical" or the phrase 'filled with internal contradictions' the bare minimum of basic elements is lacking for any meaningful discussion on the topic titled the descriptive phrase "Orwellian."
It ain't a term of art....Or is it? Hmmmm...
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Strange to the strange.
I know, Proverbs 16:18 is your life song.
Disce, polo,
“I know” Proverbs 16:18 is your life song”
If nonsense had a name, could Discepolo qualify?
“Proverbs” ??? Grammatical or Heavenly??
Why are you separating the term "Discepolo" ?
No it could not qualify.
Scripturally.
“Why are you separating the term Discepolo”? Mmmm…. Hal did it.
“Scriptually” ??? ??? Which movie script are you referring to?
I'll sleep on it, like Joseph did. Genesis 14.
He at least obeyed God.
Dreams are messages from the deep.
Joseph got it right. Authentic spirituality is looking within. Studying an ancient 2,000 year old dusty book is not where you'll find it. He is a God of the living, not of the dead.
Fair point, and a well-written op-ed. But you could argue that "authoritarianism" or even "totalitarianism" is not sufficient in this case. My intention was to convey a certain flavor of totalitarianism - one that is futuristic, technocratic, and global - not just any kind of authoritarianism that we've seen in the past. This is what Orwell, I believe, was warning us about. No, he wasn't just describing Soviet Communism, though he I'm sure he drew some inspiration from that. Rather, there is some evidence that he was connected to a secret society that was actually planning the kind of global dystopia he wrote about.
"But you could argue that "authoritarianism" or even "totalitarianism" is not sufficient in this case..."
Why do you think that? We are witnessing the rise of Technocratic Feudalism. The NWO / JWO etc kings of the earth are deliberately destroying the post-Industrialisation birth of the middle class, they want to take us back to kings and serfs... it's been part of their agenda for at least a century. So it is very much i discern a totalitarian and/or authoritarian rulership rising but now there is the fact of having advanced technology Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao Tse Tung etc could have only ever dreamed about. The word "Technocracy" as part of it's definition of 'rule by the Technocrats' [BigTech etc], already infers a Collectivist dark scientific dictatorship.
" My intention was to convey a certain flavor of totalitarianism - one that is futuristic, technocratic, and global - not just any kind of authoritarianism that we've seen in the past. This is what Orwell, I believe, was warning us about."
Yes you are correct, these are generally my thoughts also. He was very much describing Sovietism if you spend the time to read why he became disillusioned with it and what was the impetus for him to author Nineteen Eighty-Four. These sensational claims that he was connected to a secret society is a popular fraud spread in conspiracy community for years to attempt to discredit his sincere attempt to warn us to NEVER let Sovietism become resurrected in a time of technological advancement [hence why he wrote NE-F]. He was warning the world, not a part of the plan. He was warning us with all he was that if we are not vigilant to guard our freedoms with utmost attention, that we will be compelled, under the guise of "Beneficent Technocracy" into an ultra dank, dark, de-man-ising, depressing, dismal, dreary chilling cold cacotopia nightmare. We will own nothing, they will own everything, and not us, but they will be happy.
Agreed that he was not a part of the plot. And no, I don't think most conspiracy theorists try to make that case. They just say that he was loosely connected to insiders or whistleblowers who were privy to the global elites' plans.
The WEF's Agenda 2030 is just the most updated version known to the public. Sovietism, Stalinism, Communist China, etc are all testing grounds and early prototypes for what's being planned globally.
Re: authoritarianism - I use "Orwellian" to conjure up specific images in people's minds - dystopian, global, technocratic - which is much closer to my actual meaning than "authoritarian." Many liberals these days hear authoritarian and they just think of Trump's efforts to destroy the Constitution and turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany. But you're right - I don't want to imply that the author espouses the views that he writes about.
I've been blocking the phonies but Youtube insists on pushing them on me regardless.
Who do you include and specify as among the "they're," or 'them' or any other aggregated focus group?
Tio Mitchito™
The world's most powerful and influential families -- Rockefellers, Rothschilds, the so-called "Black Nobility" -- along with their billionaire frontmen in Big Tech, Finance, and Global Planning.
Thank you for sending me to online search to learn me some his\herstory not included in any curricula through my education. I didn't think the Black Nobility were friends\partners of O.J. Simpson, yet I also didn't expect to find a wiki page on a bloomin' and bloody conspiracy theory of the Feudal Age European 19th C.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_nobility
Raise yer hands if you cannot recall ever hearing the Black Nobility of Feudal Europe referenced as context for either of the World Wars or the morphing of Feudal and Vatican Euro monarchies into the East\West schisms launched by our 20th and 21st C. contemporary Perma War E-Con-o-mies....
Noel, should you ever launch a Substack or other accessible and affordable info page on the Black Nobility or similar 19th through 21st century Nation-State conspiracies of this scope please do reach out to US corporate-captured news hounds among US of this only digitally literate Western Empire!
Appreciatively yours,
Tio Mitchito™
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Thanks, Mitch lol. Glad to inspire your independent learning and discovery outside of the educational orthodoxy! I haven't actually done that much research into the Black Nobility myself, but a number of other Substackers have -- Derrick Broze is definitely one of them.
AI has the tremendous potential to do both good and harm. Under governments now as incompetent and immoral as they are the potential for harm is great.
De-regulation is the name of the game and it has to be strictly regulated.
Under good competent government it is a valuable asset. Under fascist incompetent government it is just another tool of mass deception.
AI is a powerful technology we are not ready or responsible enough to integrate into our societies effectively.
As usual technology races ahead of social progress, and inept governance.
"tremendous potential to do both good and harm." We have some pretty good ideas about the harm, already clear and present danger, but I keep hearing about the potential for good, without getting a clear picture of just what exactly that good is, and whether it is possible at all, much less how it is to be balanced against harm, and what level of harm is acceptable. Can you enlighten us?
A fair question. Note that the real problem with A.I. is the lack of regulation in a Capitalistic society where the billionaires have now captured the regulatory bodies that are suppose to regulate them and their corporations. All under the ideology that less regulations are better for everyone, when it turns out, it's just better for the Billionaire profits, at the expense of a ton of other things society could benefit from - if it wasn't so profit/greed driven by a handful of sociopaths.
It is true that AI could potentially replace many mundane jobs. And I believe it's going to happen very soon, no matter the consequence. Now if regulations were in place, where the Productivity dividends of AI/robotic replacements (of say package Handling, CSR phone answering, even Trucking) were allowed to be spent on the Workers themselves (instead of the Owner Capitalists) - Americans would have much more free time to themselves to focus on other parts of their lives other than just work, work, work - which being overworked leads to a boatload of mental issues and physical problems especially as you get older. So with regulations, and non-corrupt governmental oversight, AI could relieve Americans from a meaningless existence of working 60-70 hours a week just to get by. The problem which is obvious, however, is that the benefits of AI will go to the top 1% and not to the poor - given our current corrupt system and corrupt governance.
Again, to not make this a long comment. WITH PROPER REGULATORY CONTROL. AI could:
- Be an able and capable assistant to healthcare doctors and nurses (but not replace them). AI robots could perform minor non-life threatening surgeries (think Star Trek).
But again, will never replace the comprehensive, general intelligence of a conscious doctor. For example, Dephi-2M Ai is a "generative transformer model" - and captures patient multimorbidity by analyzing over 1,000 conditions at once.
-Machine learning AI has already contributed significantly to Scientific discoveries and research. For example, protein folding, and predicting the linear chain of amino acids - an AI system "AlphaFold" was developed in 2020. AI also can sift through mountains of scientific data, such as data generated by the Hadron Collider.
-In China, autonomous trucks are gaining momentum. But China is doing it with strong regulations, and for safety purposes, building single lanes on their freeways that allow only the unmanned trucks. This of course, delivers huge economic benefits for a country, but again assuming those benefits are not just handed over to the super rich - but spent to increase the general welfare of the entire country. AI also has a number of other economic windfalls when applied.
OK - so I listed a few. There is a ton more of benefits. But I agree with Caitlin here, that unless there is some kind of regulatory oversight on AI, or if AI is used to deliberately deceive people for purposes that remain hidden to the American public - there should absolutely be laws against it. But the problem is not the technology itself - it's the corruption of the social system we now have in Western societies - where the obscenely rich and their corporations have turned "regulations" into a bad word - claimed anything the government does is "evil" - and you got a bunch of libertarians worshiping these same billionaire assholes - while the masses continue to get screwed.
jamenta, ".... the problem is not the technology itself - it's the corruption of the social system we now have in Western societies ...".
So very true.
>>"...but I keep hearing about the potential for good...Can you enlighten us?"
If you have to ask such a question, you are either incredibly biased against AI, lack imagination, or don't like browsing the internet.
Try the following prompt on an LLM for starters (if you wish to not search the internet yourself) ->
"give me real-world positive usages of AI technology with specific examples with citations (or sources) included"
Follow the links to verify the responses. You can be more explicit and detailed in your prompt to the LLM to provide factual, verifiable responses.
Prompt ->Selected real-world positive AI uses with specific examples
(1) Medical imaging & diagnostics — earlier, more accurate detection
Deep learning reads chest X‑rays and CTs to detect pneumonia, lung nodules, intracranial hemorrhage. Example: Aidoc and Zebra Medical Vision are used in hospitals to triage acute CT findings and accelerate radiologist review.
(2) Cancer genomics / treatment personalization
AI models analyze tumor DNA and clinical data to recommend targeted therapies and predict drug response. Example: Tempus and Foundation Medicine combine genomic sequencing with ML to guide oncologists’ therapy choices.
(3) Drug discovery — faster candidate identification
Generative models and ML reduce time/cost to identify molecules and predict properties. Example: Insilico Medicine and Exscientia used AI to design clinical‑candidate molecules, shortening discovery timelines.
(4) Eye disease screening — accessible preventive care
Automated retinal image analysis detects diabetic retinopathy and macular degeneration enabling screening in primary care. Example: Google’s DeepMind/Google Health models and IDx‑DR deployed in clinics to screen and refer patients.
(5) Precision agriculture — higher yield, less waste
Computer vision + satellite/drone imagery identify crop stress, pests, and irrigation needs so farmers apply inputs precisely. Example: Climate Corporation, Taranis, and EOSDA provide field‑level prescriptions that reduce water and pesticide use.
(6) Predictive maintenance — fewer failures, lower costs
Sensor data + ML forecast equipment faults so companies schedule repairs before breakdowns. Example: GE Predix and Siemens’ MindSphere are used in manufacturing and energy to reduce downtime and maintenance expense.
(7) Energy grid optimization & renewables integration
ML forecasts demand and renewable output to balance grids and reduce curtailment. Example: AutoGrid and Google DeepMind’s work with National Grid/UK projects to improve wind/solar dispatch and storage use.
(8) Disaster response & humanitarian aid
Satellite imagery + ML map damage after earthquakes/floods and prioritize relief. Example: Microsoft’s AI for Humanitarian Action and UNOSAT use imagery and models to speed assessments and aid delivery.
(9) Wildlife conservation & anti‑poaching
Camera‑trap image classification and acoustic monitoring detect species and illegal activity. Example: PAWS (Protection Assistant for Wildlife Security) schedules patrols; Wildlife Acoustic and Conservation Metrics analyze audio/camera data.
(10) Traffic management & safer roads
Real‑time traffic prediction and signal optimization reduce congestion and accidents. Example: Surtrac adaptive traffic signals and INRIX/Google Maps routing that cut travel time and idling emissions.
(11) Finance — fraud detection & regulatory compliance
ML spots anomalous transactions to block fraud and automates document review for compliance. Example: Mastercard and Visa use ML for transaction fraud scoring; banks use NLP tools to analyze contracts and regulatory filings.
(12) Education — adaptive learning & accessibility
Systems personalize lessons to student pace and provide automated tutoring/transcription. Example: Duolingo’s adaptive exercises; Khan Academy’s practice recommendations and Carnegie Learning’s ALEKS for math.
(13) Customer service automation (augmenting humans)
Conversational AI handles routine queries and routes complex cases to humans, improving response time. Example: Zendesk/Intercom bots plus human agents; banks and utilities deploy chatbots for basic support.
(14) Supply chain & logistics optimization
Demand forecasting and routing reduce inventory waste and delivery costs. Example: Amazon uses ML for inventory placement and delivery routing; DHL uses AI for warehouse optimization.
(15) Accessibility tools — inclusion for people with disabilities
Real‑time captioning, text‑to‑speech, image descriptions help users interact with content. Example: Microsoft’s Seeing AI, Google Live Transcribe, and Apple VoiceOver improvements.
(16) Environmental monitoring & climate science
ML models improve climate forecasts, map emissions, and optimize carbon removal techniques. Example: Google Earth Engine + ML for deforestation monitoring; research projects using ML to model ice‑sheet dynamics.
If you want, I can produce a short one‑page PDF summarizing 6 of these use cases with sources and projected impacts.
Below are 1–2 peer‑reviewed papers or reputable news/agency links (PDFs where available) mapped to each use case.
* Medical imaging & diagnostics
* Zhang, Z. et al., “Clinically applicable deep learning for diagnosis and referral in retinal disease” Nature Medicine 2018. <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-018-0107-6.pdf>
* Aidoc — clinical publications & FDA 510(k) listings (company page / case studies). <https://www.aidoc.com/clinical-studies/>
* Cancer genomics / treatment personalization
* Zehir, A. et al., “Mutational landscape of metastatic cancer from prospective clinical sequencing of 10,000 patients” Nature Medicine 2017. <https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.4333.pdf>
* Tempus research overview / publications (company page). <https://www.tempus.com/research/>
* Drug discovery — generative models
* Zhavoronkov, A. et al., “Deep learning enables rapid identification of potent DDR1 kinase inhibitors” Nature Biotechnology 2019. <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-019-0224-x.pdf>
* Exscientia — press/paper on AI‑designed molecule entering clinical trials. <https://www.exscientia.ai/news/>
* Eye disease screening (diabetic retinopathy)
* Gulshan, V. et al., “Development and validation of a deep learning algorithm for detection of diabetic retinopathy in retinal fundus photographs” JAMA 2016. <https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2588763.pdf>
* FDA clearance news for IDx‑DR. <https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-authorizes-first-device-independent-ai-based-diagnostic-system-diabetic-retinopathy>
* Precision agriculture
* Kamilaris, A. & Prenafeta‑Boldú, F. X., “Deep learning in agriculture: A survey” Computers and Electronics in Agriculture 2018. <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168169917307683> (PDF via publisher)
* Climate Corporation product/case studies. <https://climate.com/solutions/fieldview>
* Predictive maintenance
* Jardine, A. K. S., Lin, D. & Banjevic, D., “A review on machinery diagnostics and prognostics implementing condition‑based maintenance” Mechanical Systems and Signal Processing 2006. <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0888327005001159> (PDF via publisher)
* GE Predix case studies / industrial whitepapers. <https://www.ge.com/digital/industrial-internet/predix>
* Energy grid optimization & renewables integration
* Pfenninger, S. et al., “Balancing variability of solar and wind power with storage and demand response” Nature Energy 2019. <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-019-0510-2.pdf>
* DeepMind energy optimization (Google data centers) case study. <https://deepmind.com/research/case-studies/data-centre-energy-efficiency>
* Disaster response & humanitarian aid
* Microsoft AI for Humanitarian Action (program page & case studies). <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/ai/ai-for-humanitarian-action>
* UNOSAT/UNITAR satellite mapping for disaster response. <https://www.unitar.org/unosat/>
* Wildlife conservation & anti‑poaching
* W. L. et al., “Using machine learning to detect poaching from ranger patrol data” Conservation Biology (PAWS project papers). <https://www.paws.stanford.edu/publications> (see linked papers)
* Wildlife Insights (camera‑trap ML project). <https://www.wildlifeinsights.org/static/pdfs/WildlifeInsights_Methods.pdf>
* Traffic management & safer roads
* Smith, B. et al., “Real‑time adaptive traffic signal control using reinforcement learning” Transportation Research Record (case studies like SURTRAC). <https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/traffic-signal> (SURTRAC info)
* INRIX traffic analytics / study summaries. <https://inrix.com/insight/>
* Finance — fraud detection & compliance
* Bolton, R. J. & Hand, D. J., “Statistical fraud detection: A review” Statistical Science 2002. <https://projecteuclid.org/journals/statistical-science/volume-17/issue-3/Statistical-Fraud-Detection--A-Review/10.1214/ss/1042727940.full.pdf>
* Mastercard/Visa fraud prevention (company whitepapers). <https://www.mastercard.com/news/> (search fraud solutions)
* Education — adaptive learning & tutoring
* Piech, C. et al., “Deep knowledge tracing” Advances in Neural Information Processing Systems (NeurIPS) 2015. <https://papers.nips.cc/paper/2015/file/6b9f0b7c3bb2d3f6b0d5a6d2f4c2f3f3-Paper.pdf>
* Research on Khan Academy impact / adaptive practice. <https://www.khanacademy.org/about/impact>
* Customer service automation
* Adamopoulou, E. & Moussiades, L., “An overview of chatbot technology” Artificial Intelligence Applications and Innovations 2020 (survey). <https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-49186-4_31> (PDF via publisher)
* Zendesk AI/Answer Bot product page & case studies. <https://www.zendesk.com/product/answer-bot/>
* Supply chain & logistics optimization
* W. T. & Chopra, S., “Supply chain management: Strategy, planning, and operation” (industry applications papers on ML forecasting) — multiple case studies (Amazon/DHL) via company pages.
* Amazon supply‑chain ML case studies (AWS/press). <https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/amazon/>
* DHL AI insights page. <https://www.dhl.com/global-en/home/insights-and-innovation/insights/artificial-intelligence.html>
* Accessibility tools
* Starks, A. et al., “Seeing AI and accessible computer vision” Microsoft blog/paper and Seeing AI app page. <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/ai/seeing-ai>
* Google Live Transcribe support page and related publications on automatic speech recognition for accessibility. <https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6141940>
* Environmental monitoring & climate science
* Rasp, S., Pritchard, M. & Gentine, P., “Deep learning to represent subgrid processes in climate models” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) 2020. <https://www.pnas.org/content/117/39/21170> (PDF via publisher)
* Google Earth Engine / Global Forest Watch deforestation monitoring resources. <https://earthengine.google.com/> and <https://www.globalforestwatch.org/>
If you want, I can convert the above into a single downloadable PDF with the direct PDFs embedded and properly formatted citations.
Prompt -> please add citations (or sources) to your above answer
Below are concise citations (studies, company pages, news) mapped to the examples from the earlier list.
* Medical imaging & diagnostics (Aidoc, Zebra Medical Vision)
* Aidoc FDA clearances and product pages: <https://www.aidoc.com/news/> and <https://www.aidoc.com/clinical-studies>
* Zebra Medical Vision (now part of Nanox / research): <https://www.zebra-med.com/publications/> and journal validations (see e.g., Poplin et al., Nature Medicine 2018 for related retinal imaging methods)
* Cancer genomics / treatment personalization (Tempus, Foundation Medicine)
* Tempus company / publications: <https://www.tempus.com/research/>
* Foundation Medicine (FoundationOne): <https://www.foundationmedicine.com/clinical-benefits>
* Drug discovery (Insilico Medicine, Exscientia)
* Insilico Medicine publications and press releases: <https://insilico.com/publications/>
* Exscientia drug-discovery milestones and Nature/Science–linked papers: <https://www.exscientia.ai/news/> and e.g., Nature Biotech coverage of AI-designed molecules
* Eye disease screening (Google Health, IDx‑DR)
* Google Health retinal AI: Gulshan et al., JAMA 2016; Google Health publications: <https://health.google/> (retinal screening papers)
* IDx-DR FDA clearance: <https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-authorizes-first-device-independent-ai-based-diagnostic-system-diabetic-retinopathy>
* Precision agriculture (Climate Corporation, Taranis, EOSDA)
* Climate FieldView (Climate Corporation): <https://climate.com/solutions/fieldview>
* Taranis: <https://taranis.ag/case-studies/>
* EOSDA agri-analytics: <https://eos.com/precision-agriculture/>
* Predictive maintenance (GE Predix, Siemens MindSphere)
* GE Predix / case studies: <https://www.ge.com/digital/industrial-internet/predix>
* Siemens MindSphere: <https://new.siemens.com/global/en/products/software/mindsphere.html>
* Energy grid optimization (AutoGrid, Google DeepMind work)
* AutoGrid: <https://www.auto-grid.com/solutions/>
* DeepMind energy optimisation with Google data centers: <https://deepmind.com/research/case-studies/data-centre-energy-efficiency>
* Disaster response & humanitarian aid (Microsoft AI for Humanitarian Action, UNOSAT)
* Microsoft AI for Humanitarian Action: <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/ai/ai-for-humanitarian-action>
* UNOSAT / UNITAR satellite damage assessment: <https://www.unitar.org/unosat/>
* Wildlife conservation & anti‑poaching (PAWS, camera/acoustic projects)
* PAWS project papers and Stanford/WWF collaborations: <https://paws.stanford.edu/> and related publications
* Wildlife acoustic/camera-trap analytics (e.g., Wildlife Insights): <https://www.wildlifeinsights.org/>
* Traffic management (Surtrac, INRIX)
* Surtrac adaptive signals (Brighton/South Bend trials): <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-smart-traffic-signal-system-saves-time/> and <https://www.inrix.com/insight/>
* INRIX traffic analytics / Google Maps: <https://inrix.com/solutions/>
* Finance — fraud detection (Mastercard, Visa)
* Mastercard/Visa fraud detection overviews and whitepapers: <https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/business/overview.html> and <https://usa.visa.com/> (search fraud prevention)
* Education — adaptive learning (Duolingo, Khan Academy, Carnegie Learning)
* Duolingo research / adaptive learning: <https://research.duolingo.com/>
* Khan Academy / mastery learning: <https://www.khanacademy.org/about/impact>
* Carnegie Learning / ALEKS: <https://www.carnegielearning.com/> and <https://www.aleks.com/>
* Customer service automation (Zendesk, Intercom)
* Zendesk AI & automation: <https://www.zendesk.com/product/answer-bot/>
* Intercom automation & case studies: <https://www.intercom.com/product/automation>
* Supply chain & logistics (Amazon, DHL)
* Amazon supply‑chain ML (Fulfillment/Forecasting): articles and AWS case studies: <https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/amazon/>
* DHL AI & warehouse automation: <https://www.dhl.com/global-en/home/insights-and-innovation/insights/artificial-intelligence.html>
* Accessibility tools (Microsoft Seeing AI, Google Live Transcribe, Apple)
* Microsoft Seeing AI: <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/ai/seeing-ai>
* Google Live Transcribe: <https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6141940>
* Apple accessibility overview: <https://www.apple.com/accessibility/>
* Environmental monitoring & climate science (Google Earth Engine, deforestation monitoring)
* Google Earth Engine & Global Forest Watch analyses: <https://earthengine.google.com/> and <https://www.globalforestwatch.org/>
* Published ML climate-modeling research: e.g., Rasp et al., Nature 2020 (ML emulators), and Google/DeepMind climate projects: <https://deepmind.com/blog/article/climate-change-ai>
If you’d like, I can produce a formatted list mapping each bullet to 1–2 specific peer‑reviewed papers or news links (PDFs) for citation.
Agree.
Ned Ludd
The sophisticated software deceitfully called "AI" was inherently bound to end up being used for evil far more than for noble reasons because we live in a world ruled by diabolists, not angelists. Governments are more corrupt than ever, and it's not so much also incompetence though there is that, but rather it's a Freemason big club and you obey your superiors lest you want to be destroyed by the Jew MSM etc.
The over use of Fascist is nauseating. I'm Italian, my parents were subjected to Mussolini's regime, many who use the word "Fascist" actually don't even know how it's meant to be understood when applied.
So what is your definition of Fascism?
Here's THE definition, not mine;
There are those who believe that Mussolini is not quoted as stating these words word for word ->"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." however the quote is a paraphrase of Mussolini's views from his 1932 article "The Doctrine of Fascism," ["We are, in other words, a state which controls all forces acting in nature. We control political forces, we control moral forces, we control economic forces, therefore we are a full-blown Corporative state."], co-authored with Giovanni Gentile, where he describes the fascist state's integration of corporate and government interests. This particular wording, which some believe was Mr. Gentile's summary of Mussolini's DoF, was popularised later to encapsulate Mussolini’s ideology.
The same document explains that the "corporations" (corporazioni) on which the Fascist state rested were its own inventions, modelled not on private companies but on guild associations.
So you don't there is any fascism present in the West?
"Fascism" is constantly used by the Left to the point of abuse, confuse, misuse etc. To me what we are witnessing is a plan at least a century and a half old, of the formation of what is called by the rulers New World Order / Novus Ordo Seclorum Agenda. The Banksters are at the top [see the documentary, recent one called "The Great Taking" and an older one called "The Money Masters"] and with them is the Bank of International Settlements/BIS, the IMF [run by the Rothschilds] and many other locked-in-step global organisations like United Nations 2100 A.D. Agenda [Go view a talk by the late Rosa Koire - It's called *The Green Mask*] - i do not agree with her all her politics but surprisingly she actually is more Libertarian and exposes quite a bit the true nefarious and sinister UN Agenda 2100 A.D. which is all part of the Global Governance Agenda = Technocracy = a nightmare monster hybrid of Communism, Fascism, and Socialism that masquerades as "Capitalism". Crony Capitalism is not Free Market, it's the beginnings of the transition to Technocratic Feudalism.
The aim in part for this push to put us on all electric for energy sources is to purposely have a way they are able to micro-manage us, track us down to the micro-watt and tax us and thus supremely to gain control over the smallest parts of our lives, the minutia, so they will have an unprecedented control and power over our lives - an invisible electronic prison, thus a panopticon, all is monitored, tagged, tracked, databased etc. An indisputable dank, dark, de-man-ising, depressing, dismal, dreary, chilling cold cacotopia nightmare never seen on earth, hence why we ***MUST*** with all we are resist this Technocratic takeover by the most powerful and wealthy nihilists / diabolists _[the kings of the earth]_ in the world for there are far more of us than them, if we enough of us do not comply, they are unable to gain such far and wide and deep and great control over us.
Thanks for your responses.
AI is a type of false advertising: false advertising is against the law.therefore AI when used to deceive, and that is often, should be against the law.
Dear Doris Eisler: You seem middle-named to deal with this dilemma! Or have you 'monkeyed' around with it contributing to our social\anti-social dilemma?
Tio Mitchito ™
I dunno. But I have found that people often feel somehow directed in their attitude/behaviour by their name. I had 8 siblings, and I seem to have been the only trouble-maker - only with ideas, though.
It is fraud. The laws already exist; they just need to be applied.
All Marketing should be illegal 💯 ✊️
Of course, it comes from Sickmind/Sigmund Freud's nephew Edward Bernays, the father of the Advertising/Marketing industry aka Propaganda applied to Consumerism;
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." Edward Bernays
"We are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind." Edward Bernays
"If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it." Edward Bernays
"We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays
Fat chance with that.
I politely disagree. Acceptable human behaviour ought to be determined and reinforced by a healthy society that recognizes when something or someone strays beyond the pale. Arguably that is what "the law" is for": codifying the boundaries and specifying consequences.
Unfortunately our current legal system has devolved into a cudgel for the rich and powerful few to harass, compel, and exploit the poor, less powerful, less well connected many. Undoubtedly, little time would pass until the sort of law you envision was consistently used to squash dissenting perspectives and voices. Honest attempts to combat the dominant narrative, would be severely punished, while brazen malarkey in service of that narrative would thrive untouched.
I think your main message, that what our society needs is a collective awakening, is more to the point.
More lawlessness isn't going to fix anything.
You need to fix the laws, and get rid of the billionaire (soon to be trillionaire) assholes at the top.
Absolutely 100% agreed about the billionaires soon to be trillionaires. But its not a matter of just fixing the laws, it is also necessary to fix the legal system.
Examples of abuse of the legal system by the rich and powerful are everywhere; I'm sure you can recite some of your own. Selective enforcement, making litigation too drawn out and expensive to be possible for the less well off, escaping the intent of well-meaning laws using loopholes and technicalities, forcing your customers to sign user agreements substituting "arbitration" for lawsuits, the list is endless...
Yes. Both our Executive and Legislative branches have been corrupted (by monied interests) - creating a screwed up judicial branch in the process, along with a corrupted Supreme court.
How the US eventually gets out of this current mess is beyond me, and it seems like it won't. The Judicial branch is the only institution left that stands somewhat between the billionaires and the People these days; especially the US Constitution, if not perverted with absurdly concocted interpretations by a corrupted Supreme Court.
Even though I agree with you that the Judicial branch is the least corrupt of the bunch, the Supreme Court is an excellent example of why it's not as simple as just passing new laws...
Yes. And how do you get past a corrupt Supreme Court?
I think that gets back to my original point (and CJ's long time theme): we need some sort of collective awakening. Somehow we have to realize that we are all deeply connected, that it makes no sense to try to exploit others for our own gain; no more sense than it would to let your left hand freeze so your right hand could stay warm.
I think the problem starts with the Constitution that accords legal standing to the possession of property. That is rigging the game from the getgo. The Bill of Rights is a useless band-aid that purports to be a weight against the document's total dismissal of people with no property. The Constitution is a plan to ignore social justice as a value or aspiration.
"The Bill of Rights is a useless band-aid"
Ignorant and incorrect.
I think the AI abuse you describe is called fraud, and we do have criminal laws against it. Enforcement is another matter.
I have never before agreed more with you than on this point. That was the first thought that popped into my mind when I first read about AI. AI can be used to make anyone, no matter how innocent, seem to be a murderer, a thief, a criminal of any kind.
It's SA, and ACGI not AI.
I have only heard of AI - Artificial Intelligence. No idea what SA and ACGI means
"SA" - Sophisticated Algorithms
"ACGI" - Advanced CGI [Computer Graphics Imaging]
I honourably request you make the time to read the following articles, a small sampling of the minority of authentically many years wide-field experienced and erudite in computer science and other disciplines that intersect with it;
https://coqdiddles.com/2023/07/20/artificial-intelligence-doesnt-exist-actually
https://web.archive.org/web/20230921152744/https://goodwordnews.com/artificial-intelligence-does-not-exist
And how does this help people understand when they/we are being conned by it, whatever letters you want it to be under?
We do not have to know which applies just whether or not it's a conjob.
And it's already happening in so-called films. I was almost caught out on one the other day, no mention of it being animation, AI, AS or ACGI but some parts didn't quite gel, like hair length being suddenly shorter when the person(?) was still part of a conversation - just one example. So I scrolled to the end to see if there was a character list, nope, not one.
I'm guessing this was a test to see how much they can get away with when not using actors but look-a-likes. Writers are already worried about this with AI writing books, being used to write letters cheat at exams etc., so I guess actors must be worried about their profession being cut out as well.
So according to you, we should call a man a woman, a dog a cat, a cat a dog, a fish a bird, a bird a fish, a spade a club, a club a spade, a GM a Ford, a Ford a GM, a skyscraper a bungalow, a bungalow a skyscraper, a toilet a sink, a bathtub the toilet etc... correct?
Now you're just been silly. The only people lie who have to know the exact titles, according to you, are the people in the business. I wouldn't expect you to know the Latin names for body parts but we'd know what you meant by heart, stomach etc.
AI and Capitalism -- what an ugly mix. On top of all the propaganda we already get.
"It Should Be Illegal To Use AI To Deceive People".
It should be, but it won't - not until it's used against those in power. Even then the law will only prohibit its use against those in power.
Yep. I think there is already such a law in California.
Thank You Caitlin
we're truly circling the drain. the sooner we get right with guillotines the better, because nothing else is going to work
Caitlin, you had me agreeing all the way up to this sentence: "Governments should intervene to end these assaults on our ability to perceive and understand our world."
How do we know that it isn't our governments who are fueling at least some of these AI frauds/misinformation stunts in order to manipulate us to act or believe the way they want us to? I agree that AI used to defraud and lead people astray should be outlawed, but what if our government isn't trustworthy? What if they're in on the deal? What if they want AI 'bots to drive mentally unstable people to commit suicide to rid them of "surplus population"?
If they don't ever want to give us universal health care in the US, I could see Trump and friends using AI to drive as many of us around the bend as possible so they can take our homes/lands/bank accounts after we've all jumped off a cliff. If they want people to join the military so they can start a war for oil/rare earths, then why wouldn't the government create realistic AI videos "proving" that we've been attacked? I think AI should be outlawed altogether and anyone caught using it is criminal--individual, corporation or government.
Well, we sure can't leave it up to the billionaires or Wallstreet.
So yeah, it's going to have to be government. But it sure the fuck isn't going to be the corrupt one we got now. So, we're all in a huge dumpster fire at the moment. Can't trust corporations. Can't trust billionaires. And you can't trust a corrupted government (corrupted by the billionaires). So - a lot of things are going to burn, before it gets better. And who knows, it may not get any better - we may end up in hell anyhow.
Yes, the Revolution must come first before we trust any government with AI. Let's hope that happens sooner, not later.