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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"In reality it is impossible to understand what’s going on in the world unless you understand that the US is the hub of an undeclared empire which has been working tirelessly to bring the global population under a single power umbrella over which it presides."

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>>"Our world cannot know peace as long as we are ruled by an empire that is fueled by endless rivers of human blood."

🎯💯👏👏 My hope is that EVERY HUMAN on the planet understands this clearly! Thank you Caitlin!

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Norm Gilmore's avatar

Yes the US MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX Survives on Death and Destruction. They Serve Mammon Not God. Unfortunately too many Nations have been Forced to Now the Knee,but crippling Sanctions or Political interference by the CIA to force a Regime Change one that allows the Pillaging of Resources.

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m05's avatar

Are you deliberately writing nonsense, focusing attention not on the true center of the empire, but on his right hand? Are you Jewish or just don't want any trouble? The USA is one of the territories controlled by the Khazar Empire, whose political center is located in London City.

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Penelope Prill's avatar

Caitlin Johnstone is not the one writing nonsense.

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Res Nullius's avatar

Israel: just another star on an already blood-soaked banner.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

What is "the Khazar empire"? Are you trying to say that Jews are secretly running the world?

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Bizmo's avatar

Don’t believe that Jews secretly run the world.

The Tripartite State runs the Western world.

Military/Oligarchy/Political- 3 states that act as a duel state- Democrats/Republicans and Washington D.C. is the Imperial core of the Global Empire known as the United States of America(North America). (Neoliberal ideology and financial Capitalistic Global Empire)

Globalists conspiracies are a distraction from what’s called Tripartite state or Overworld/Underworld or Security State/Deep state is a popular terms.

Please read C. Wright Mills.

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Robert Billyard's avatar

"Tripartite" is a euphemism for those afraid to use the term fascism which is what we are talking about. Just like Mussolini said corporatism is fascism plain and simple. All wars now are corporatist.

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Bizmo's avatar

Tripartite means “3 States”.

These 3 states happen to be neoliberal Capitalist who favor Fascist ideology.

Capitalism is a system and Fascism is a mindset.

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Bizmo's avatar

Fascism is a reaction to Communism.

“Axis power of WW2” is euphemism for “Anti-Communist international”

I don’t know who we are, but you don’t know what you are talking about.

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Robert Billyard's avatar

And you suffer an advanced of confusion.

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Norm Gilmore's avatar

If you research you will find that many that Call themselves Jews are Khazarian, Zelensky,Soros, Brezinski,Kissinger Netanyahu to name a few.

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Janice's avatar

Add Walensky to that list. But it’s right across all religions that this is happening. “ Islam” and “Christianity” are in this up to their eyeballs. I put quotation marks bc when individuals or groups behave as globalists/deletes they are not Muslims or Christians. Not all Jewish Jews are Jewish. Many abhor what is happening. We are speaking of the deletes. They are fanatically, deeply religious moloch baal and chemosh and Ishtar worshipers. With their every breath.

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Bizmo's avatar

These religious fanatics have no power.

The higher immoral imperial power elites of North America have a hegemonic dominance over Earth through financial means currently.

“The higher immorality can neither be narrowed to the political sphere nor understood as primarily a matter of corrupt men in fundamentally sound institutions. Political corruption is one aspect of a more general immorality; the level of moral sensibility that now prevails is not merely a matter of corrupt men. The higher immorality is a systematic feature of the American elite; its general acceptance is an essential feature of the mass society.

Of course, there may be corrupt men in sound institutions, but when institutions are corrupting, many of the men who live and work in them are necessarily corrupted. In the corporate era, economic relations become impersonal-and the executive feels less personal responsibility. Within the corporate worlds of business, war-making and politics, the private conscience is attenuated-and the higher immorality is institutionalized. It is not merely a question of a corrupt administration in corporation, army, or state; it is a feature of the corporate rich, as a capitalist stratum, deeply intertwined with the politics of the military state.” -C Wright Mills.

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Bizmo's avatar

I grew up in a Christian nation, I’d rather had grown up in an Islamic nation tbh.

“We are all tempted to honor false covenants of race, nationalism, class, and gender. They sometimes compete for our loyalty. War, of course, is often -maybe always- a false covenant.” -Chris Hedges-

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Janice's avatar

Gender is essential. Attempts to destroy it are only a tool of the deletes to remove your human rights including bodily sovereignty ( hence vaxx mandates ) which is the basis for all your other human rights. A genderless is a “thing” and therefore not legally viable for anything. And as for nationalism it’s also essential for sovereignty. Get rid of that and whats left? The WHO the UN NATO? Baal gates? The removal of both of these is only about the destruction of the family and subsequently global government. This is communism hidden underneath rhetoric same as agenda 2030.

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Bizmo's avatar

Means of production is the primary issue.

Economics and “Business class”destroyed that American Nuclear family you speak of.

You are lost in the cold machine of Capitalism.

I hope that you are found and realize that Communism means Commune.

Commune means Community.

In Communism exist our beloved families.

Communes have existed before recorded history.

Capitalism began in 1450 on an island.

Soviet Union was State CAPITALIST economy.

America is a private CAPITALIST economy.

Both have a small group of people in control.

OH WOW!

Before 1945 they’d just kill and burn your entire family with advanced American military equipment.

Ludlow Massacre, attack on striking coal miners and their families by the Colorado National Guard and Colorado Fuel and Iron Company guards at Ludlow, Colorado, on April 20, 1914, resulting in the deaths of 25 people, including 11 children.

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Janice's avatar

I think what you are speaking of is consecration not communism. You call it communism bc you perhaps aren’t aware of the other possibility. There have been times in the real history of the world mostly, yes, long, long ago when everything was held “in common “ for a group of people. They would bring everything they had and give it into the common holding and then would be given back what they needed AND desired for talent development or etc. Everyone received from the common holding according to those two criteria eg if I have six kids obviously I would need more than someone with two babies etc. It has worked a few times and usually ends when someone gets greedy and takes it wanting more bc he thinks he deserves it for xyz reasons then class differences start happening and greed sets in and on it goes. This can only work where love for God comes first why? So one can rejoice and be filled with love for others. That’s why God has to come first. And where there is that real love for God and subsequently others the heart is filled with the desire for an end to poverty for anyone and becomes reality with that common holding. Hearts have to be one though and minds too and it absolutely has to be voluntary it can’t work any other way. This love eliminates the need for outside coercion. War and disease end too. I know of three times this has happened and two of them lasted hundreds of years and was a deeply joyful time for all.

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Janice's avatar

Communism and capitalism same end game same coin.

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Tony Erizia's avatar

Keep taking the tablets.

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andy tonti's avatar

But from understanding must come action!!

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

You are so right, Caitlin. Reading the headlines of some of the MSM (Guardian, BBC) is a sickening experience as they perpetuate the lie that "freedom fighters" have somehow saved Syria, when it is just another U.S. regime change terror act.

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m05's avatar

Are you deliberately writing nonsense, focusing attention not on the true center of the empire, but on his right hand? Are you Jewish or just don't want any trouble? The USA is one of the territories controlled by the Khazar Empire, whose political center is located in London City.

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noizeinyourhead's avatar

so, you're saying this would be more accurate?

"...when it is just another Khazar Empire regime change terror act."

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Susan T's avatar

I share your hope that the end of the US empire will come sooner rather than later. It is going to be super painful for all of us who are not part of the billionaire class though. Netanyahu's claim that he is responsible for the fall of Assad is like a confession that he is out to do harm to anyone he can remotely label an antisemite.

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m05's avatar

Are you deliberately writing nonsense, focusing attention not on the true center of the empire, but on his right hand? Are you Jewish or just don't want any trouble? The USA is one of the territories controlled by the Khazar Empire, whose political center is located in London City.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

What a jerk! I have blocked you and urge all others to do so as well. Click on this creature's name, then the ... three dots, then Block.

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Tony Erizia's avatar

Plonker.! I'll be blocking you too.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Not only that, but it sends a message: collaborate with the Empire, or this will happen to your country as well.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

That is an old message and it is wearing out, don't you think?

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SW's avatar

Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia got the message long ago and the empire makes sure they don’t forget it.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

Why are you acting like they weren't treated exactly the same way as Syria or Iraq?

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Patrick Powers's avatar

Evidently not yet.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Yes the perverse amoeba that digests populist urges and excretes caustic enzymes that dissolve nations. A reasonable analogy. But I disagree that they do this"whilst pleading for peace and diplomacy from their podiums". The faux murmurs for peace maybe, but diplomacy never. They don't know the word at all in the US state department; the concept of negotiation by equals is poison, anathema to the empire maniacs.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

If you read the article carefully it says that such pleading for peace and diplomacy does NOT take place in the real world, only in the deluded minds of "liberals."

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Irrelevant: Deluded minds, you say -- exactly -- those minds, in complete denial, entirely shield themselves from that word, are never inclined even a nanometer in that direction. J. Sachs makes this point repeatedly in his analyses. These a-holes don't even consider it an option; hence if the idea of negotiation by equals ever enters their minds, it's gone in an instant because the US has no equal. The very idea of exceptionalism is so deeply ingrained in Americans — an order of magnitude more so in Americans who go into politics — that it precludes any such inclinations.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The Empire ignores diplomacy because it can.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

What I'm genuinely tired of in this thread are the instant knee-jerk toadies who find disagreement with the author's opinions quasi-sacrilegious but insist they're in favor of open discourse. Like I didn't read the fucking article "carefully". You're correct of course. The empire has no operational requirement for diplomacy in its playbook, so it's not just lacking in the deluded minds of liberals. It's a complete nonstarter -- from the get-go, from the moment the mofos who aspire to turn the gears of the empire think their first thought.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."

Frederick Douglass

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Great quote. Douglass had a deep gut understanding of tyranny.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Douglass had more direct experience of chattel slavery than most here.

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m05's avatar

Are you deliberately writing nonsense, focusing attention not on the true center of the empire, but on his right hand? Are you Jewish or just don't want any trouble? The USA is one of the territories controlled by the Khazar Empire, whose political center is located in London City.

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Res Nullius's avatar

What a simple lil bot you are!

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Kimberly Young's avatar

Gtfooh you fool

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

It's been very hard for me not to be deeply depressed today.

In the past 1.5 years or so: Gaza City...Beirut...Damascus...next Tehran? -- Prime Monster Mileikovsky's wet dream.

The real bad actor is Colonial Zionism, which has Zionized the USA beyond repair.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

The US was always going to implement imperialist satellite states (what Israel basically is) with or without zionism.

It's been an expansionist capitalist empire since 1776.

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

Good comment, but I hold that Colonial Zionism has taken "colonialism" to new heights, er, satanic depths. CZ has entangled the US with its skill in "victimization"...with full-on subservience/obeisance and *impunity*, which is particularly galling to me. No way can I adequately articulate my detestation.... (I'm not even a "good" US patriot, but how the hypocritical MAGA Trumpites et al can stomach abrogation of our legitimate core national-security interests to such an abomination is quite beyond my comprehension. I guess a bottom line is mega-capitalistic "exceptionalist" greed: "It's the Benjamins-cum-Billions, Baby"....)

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

You're holding capitalist to much too high a standard.

It's literally the ideology of a cancer cell.

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

I've "liked" you, but please be more specific for dense guys like me: What do you mean by "It's"? -- Colonial Zionism or US mega-capitalism-cum-voracious empire?

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

All of it. Zionism as a political movement did not exist until long after imperialism and capitalism had taken root in Europe and spread their colonial tendrils across the world.

It only exists because of antisemitic rage and the selfish interests of some wealthy individuals who wanted to play nation-builders.

Palestine was not their first choice for the Zionist project, it was actually an afterthought that came up in conversation and only occurred because the British were twitchy about actually helping set up a stable Arab government in the Palestinian territory of the Ottoman Empire even though that's the whole reason the Arabs of the are even fought alongside the British.

The whole purpose of the zionist endeavor was to exploit resources and land and desperate refugees for personal wealth and power; to provide a military March within "the Arab world". They had absolutely no love or interest in Jewish people or Judaism or the "holy" implications of Jerusalem and the surrounding land.

This is all written in their own hands, on their own documents, all freely avaliable for reading and study. Israel is a colonial satellite state for capitalist imperialism and always has been.

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Joy in HK's avatar

I would suggest you might find a different approach to this situation in Alon Mizrahi’s recent Substack, if you don’t already know it, I highly recommend it. He had a fascinating take on the events of Syria. Here’s a quote: “Who was to blame for all its sorrows, instability, poverty, and general mess? It was Assad, and by extension, his main backers: Russia and Iran.

Who is responsible and accountable for Syria as of today? Well, it’s the West’s ‘rebels‘, the US Erdogan and Israel. In one fell swoop, one mostly failed state went from being under Russia’s list of headaches and liabilities to being on America’s.”

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Landru's avatar

Syria's problems stemmed from u.s. confiscation of it's oil and wheat. That's what the u.s. military base is there for. Now we in the u.s. and israel own the entire problem

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

Syria was already having issues with the US and Israel long before Assad came to power.

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Rukshana Afia's avatar

Let us hope not beyond repair !

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Pertinent Chatter's avatar

I just don't see it ending, not unless the entire world is consumed by a nuclear holocaust. The U.S. and the collective Western blob is simply that psychopathic.

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Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

The empire is going to have another surprise soon when these groups start fighting over the spoils in Syria. How long after implementing Sharia Law will there be another uprising to fight against that? What did Biden say in his speech? He doesn't want any of the other factions to start shooting people in a bid for their own territories. He bombed the crap out of northeastern Syria to scare ISIS back into their caves to make that point. How long before the empire is back to war in Syria to quell the intercinine factions who want their piece of the Syrian pie? Is this the gift Biden wants to give Trump as an inaugural present? An expanded war in Syria? What better way for Conoco to keep stealing the oil. Distract the warlords with bombing campaigns in another part of the country.

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Feral Finster's avatar

They know. Turning Syria into a failed state is entirely intentional.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

^This.

The intention was always to destabilize Syria and Iraq and has been for a long time.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Yes, Feral Finster it is totally intentional. One has only to look around to see how many failed states the empire has spawned. Keep fuelling endless wars, sanctions to keep nations unable to govern for their people, freezing their assets.

Is BRICS and the glimmer of hope of a multilateral ethical world fading fast....

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JennyStokes's avatar

No. I don't think so.

When countries (Using BRICS) get wealthier others will want to join too.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

It's interesting to note that people in Assad's government expressed limited interest in joining BRICS or at least working with it.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I don't know if they did or didn't want to join BRICS

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SW's avatar

The US and Israel think they can control them and kick them to the curb (or oblivion) after their usefulness is gone. Just like the US thought a bunch of goatherders in Afghanistan could be squashed. I don’t know what’s going to happen in Syria with two psychos (BiBi and Ergodan) and one realtor (Trump) and his cabinet full of armchair Rambos but it’s easy to predict Syria will be destroyed just like Libya.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

I know it's not intentional on your part, but it's good to remember that Afghanistan had a fully functional democracy with great industry and universities before the US arranged a religious oup and civil war because the country was being a bit too flirtatious with socialist values.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

The country is still utterly devastated because of that and has yet to truly pull itself free from the rubble since the US has *refused* to leave until very recently and even now continues to drone strike targets there.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Anyone proposing Sharia Law should be shot. By a woman.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

The US is the greatest spreader of Sharia Law.

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Amelia Anderson's avatar

Indeed, many US states have implemented their own versions of it under the name of "Christian morality".

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

👏👏👏

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Feral Finster's avatar

Good luck with that, unless you have force to back that up.

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JennyStokes's avatar

100% Correct.

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Landru's avatar

Good call, it's already started. Fighting amongst them all, along with some head chopping.

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j.KOKO's avatar

Caitlin . . I believe you might have missed the bigger picture . . The American Empire of Israel has placed a BIG piece of “Greater Israel” in play . . Israel has been bombing Syria, almost nonstop, for days . . The victors are all on international terrorist lists . . When the dust settles Israel will take out those evil terrorist . . . With the Empires help, of course . . . Every IDF Stormtrooper has a patch on their uniform of “Greater Israel” . . .

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kh1h's avatar

I can’t help but reflect on Amnesty International’s 2017 report, “Human Slaughterhouse,” where it was postulated that upwards of 13,000 secret executions occurred under the Assad regime between 2011 and 2015, while other sources estimate over 30,000 other deaths from torture or ill-treatment. So many much pain. So much death. I hold onto a cautious hope that, while the rebels certainly relied on assistance from “the empire,” a power with its own interests at heart, this tumultuous period might still serve as a catalyst for profound and meaningful change. It’s hard not to approach the future with skepticism, given the complex web of motivations and agendas at play, but perhaps amidst the chaos, there is a chance for a transformation that truly serves the Syrian people.

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Spercepolnes's avatar

Being run by a thinly disguised ISIS mob of Takfiri head choppers who are happy to destroy anything and anyone that does not accord with their beliefs? Good luck with that one.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

What I don't understand with these folks who align themselves with the US Empire and its cohorts is that inevitably the US Empire & its cohorts quickly change course and turn on the very ones they initially supported. In other words, the Empire operatives come in under the guise of supporting the so-called rebels, who in their eyes are their useful idiots, then after they gain inroads into their confidence they desert them, their state fails and the Empire moves on to its next victim. I can't help but remember how Gadaffi rubbed elbows with Western Empire leaders only to have the whole NATO alliance crush him completely.

During the early days of the "war on terror" the US used Syria as a waystation for the "so-called" Al-Qaeda terrorists. The Syrian government allowed the US to use its prisons to house, interrogate and torture these "suspected terrorists". Shortly after, Syria itself was caught in the crosshairs of Western Empire and for 10 years it has done everything in its power to undermine Syria's position as a sovereign country with its sights on their food and oil reserves. I remember the report where these rebels supported by the US, were transporting truckloads of oil in a huge caravan right out of Syria into Turkey. I remember how the US troops were guarding Syria's oil and its refineries. I could post the links here, but it would take me too long to complete this comment, but for those who remember, they know, for others, do the research. But here is a link for your review which took me at least an hour to find. Outsourcing Torture By Jane Mayer February 6, 2005

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/02/14/outsourcing-torture

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Gail Shields's avatar

Very well said! Thank you.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

Saddam Hussein was also a US operative whom the Empire turned against. Panama was another.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Exactly. It makes you wonder what kind of amnesia drug these folks are taking who trust the US and its Imperial allies

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BornAlive's avatar

let’s clean our own house before we go counting the dead bodies in others houses. our health care system alone is a taliban/isis/hamas/sandanistas/viet cong nightmare all on its own. recent american events support this.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

And you're not exaggerating.

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MaryJane's avatar

Yeah, we need to fight a cruel dictator who killed two people by bombing and starving a couple of million people who had nothing to do with that. Then we will call them free while stealing their resources.

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Gail Shields's avatar

Yes, I heard that too but no real proof was given and many good people who should know denied it categorically (Beeley for instance) and the big three were Ba’athists (Marxist’s) Nasser’s Egypt, Iraq and lastly Syria! So, typical regime change’ candidates.

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martin's avatar

it will be like the opening the Soviet archives after the collapse of the ussr. ai is à mixed bag at best. if the sanctions are lifted, the Healthcare might improve somewhat.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Well said!

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Stephen Walker's avatar

“People get mad at you say this”

An ultra-rare proofreading error by Caitlin and Tim?

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Caitlin Johnstone's avatar

Dammit, fixed. Thanks.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Probably a rush editing error. They probably started to say "People get mad at you for saying this," and deleted the wrong bits.

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Qudsia's avatar

Seems so.

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Yoni Reinón's avatar

The thing is this has just started in Syria. We can have a few things for sure, as a certainty:

1. The British and the US are going to jump to Russia's neck over the very strategic 3+ Russian bases in Syria. This will mean the end of the Russian naval presence in the Mediterranean. WHAT A BLOW. This movement must certainly have begun, with militants driving straight to Latakia and Tartous.

2. Israel in going to annex extra chunks of Syria as a buffer zone.

3. The Turks are going to annex Alep, and more..They are going to attack the kurds too, grabing extra Syrian land. What a triumph for Erdogan.

4. The Palestinians are going to be exterminated, in plain view, at an even faster pace.

5. A civil war could erupt in Lebanon leading to Hezbollah's end.

That's to begin with.

The truth is the axis of resistance could not articulate a meaningful rescue for Syria. They cant just come together in a vigorous way. The Chinese are an international dwarf. It is just a too endogamic a culture. The Russians tried but they lack the economic muscle to have lifted Syria up. The Iranians are divided and rotten themselves. The consecutive blows they have gotten indicate a deep infiltration and corruption of the ruling class, including Iran Contra agents like Rafsanyani and others, who control the current prowestern president. Admayineyad persistent ostracism is a proof of this.

The Syrian catastrophe has given the empire the air it needed in a moment it was visibly cracking. Today, 9 December, there is a feeling of euphoria in London and Washington. They can only reinforce their intervention in nazi Ukraine. The hardcorers prooved right..Or so they think...

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Justruth's avatar

Very plausible that all or some of these predictions will come to pass. A key question is whether some deals and horse-trading has been done between the US and Russian, and US and Iran.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Fantastic analysis - thank you!

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

As a Norwegian and a longtime Palestine activist, I am so grateful to see the strong support for Palestine from writers and readers on Substack. But now I feel the need to say to all who critizise the rebel takeover in Syria - as if it's another US-evil plan: slow down a bit, breeth, and take a look at what comes to the surface when Assad is gone. No-one could have wanted the worst despot in Middle East history to stay in power a second longer. There is a crisis meeting in the Security Council today. Russia has called for it, and it will be behind closed doors this time. The crisis is not the powershift, but Israel. Israel has since yesterday carried out 200 airstrikes in and around Damascus, and the US has carried out 75. Hopefully, they have made the final miscalculation this time. Now the hope is that the whole wide world will help these newcomers to have a chance of creating a new nation, and that the US and Israel won't be able to destroy the new hope for millions of Syrians in Syria and everywhere else. 500.000 Syrians have been killed in the civil war, ten million are refugees. Take a look at who are being released from the torture chambers now - thousands of innocent people, and so many of them - women and little children. Take a look at Assads collection of luxury cars. Red Ferrari? Yes, I'll take three of those. The Shah of Persia becomes a little kid playing torture prisons compared to Assad.

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Res Nullius's avatar

"help these newcomers to have a chance of creating a new nation"

What fucking planet are you on, seriously?

You're talking about a mercenary army, with a high percentage of CIA/Mossad agents as officers. They are there to fuck the place up, not "create a new nation." Just ask Libya.

And they're not newcomers. This is the same mercenary army that's been infesting Syria since 2012 - hired by the US Empire, injected by NATO member Turkey, with Israeli air support.

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Hello Res Nullius. You have a way of speaking that reminds me quite a bit about the ones that we don't like - the Israel-supporters. We expect people who support Palestine to have the decency to debate in a respectful manner. So get a grip on yourself. Now let me ask you this: How do you see this working out, if the new leaders should not be helped to create a peaceful society for all? Are you thinking that Russia should attack Syria, kill another half million people, and then Assad is going to return as a victor to Syria and grab the reigns again? Is that the idea, or what do you see as the alternative here?

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

👎

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El dragon's avatar

What NGO group do you belong I wonder "Assad the worst despot in the M.E???." That's right out of Western media talking points. On the point of refugees - I do hope millions will flood European countries, especially Norway.

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Hello El Dragon! What a peculiar hope you have - that millions of Syrians will flood European countries. And how little you know about anything. We already have thousands and thousands of refugees from Syria in Norway - and in all countries in Europe. There are three million Syrian refugees in Turkey. Syrian refugees are celebrating in the streets all over Europe now, and many have started on the way back home already. But you hope that more millions of Syrians will become refugees - how do you see that that should happen? It sounds like you hope for something very terrible to happen to the Syrian civilian population. You should think about what you write a few minutes more.

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El dragon's avatar

What are you talking about? And who started the Arab Spring, who created ISIS...who INVADED IRAQ, destroyed Libya, to start the chaos in the M.E.? Why do you think you have refugees and why do you think you will get more of them? You will get a cookie if you get it right.

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Dear Dragon - I understand that you are a supporter of Palestine, and by that, you and I share something very important, and to me, the Palestine cause is the most important thing. Don't for a second believe that I don't share the basic thought that the US is an evil empire. I have waited for years for the big crack to come, the one that will do away with all of capitalism, when all the billiardairs loose everything they own and jump out of the windows from high up - the one big crack that will start everything from afresh. And so often I think - "This may be it!" - the one thing they do that is the most stupid thing to do if you want to keep on being an empire. There is one thing I discovered many years ago, that surprised me: and that is that in order to get very rich, you don't need to be either smart or intelligent or anything of the sort. You just need one thing, and that is the will to become rich. If you have that in spades, then you will get rich. So on top of the US empire is a bunch of insanely rich people, who are also in so many ways totally stupid. That is why I don't believe in the strategic this and that and plan to rule the world or whatever. They are just a bunch of idiots who have one thing in common - they really love all that money. And this time I hope that the US leadership have really shit in their pants, by bombing Syria, together with Israel - when the rest of the world is rejoicing with happiness. This time it's the whole world on one side, and two lonely countries on the other, the US and Israel. And they are both bombing Syria. In this post I write that there is a chance that the US empire can survive. In reality - I don't think so. And the world will be so much better the day when the US economy goes bang. And it will crack - most likely over all these incredibly stupid wars. The rich and the powerful ones deserve all that's coming to them, of loosing everything. Free Palestine! And stand up for the free Syria!

https://mariannebergvall.substack.com/p/the-us-empire-can-fall-because-of

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"There is one thing I discovered many years ago, that surprised me: and that is that in order to get very rich, you don't need to be either smart or intelligent or anything of the sort. You just need one thing, and that is the will to become rich."

I'm beginning to think the same... I consider the "willing to do anything in order to become rich" a disease - it makes people sociopaths and psychopaths in the process...

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

I'm not sure if they became psychopaths in the process or if they were psychopaths to make that choice to begin with.

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russian_bot's avatar

And I remember Blue Helmets told us Assad gassed his own people. What a monster!

And now he's given asylum by another poisoner-in-chief Putin. Remember that guy spreading novichok all over the England!

Now the two of them can ride Volgas on the Red Square.

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El dragon's avatar

😅👍

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

You believe that lie about Assad gassing his own people? That was debunked years ago!

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russian_bot's avatar

Now I know why you're a fan of Gene Sharp.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

Maybe it would help you if you were "a fan" of Gene Sharp. Or maybe the cognitive dissonance would kill you.

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russian_bot's avatar

No thanks.

You provide another example of what living a groupie lifestyle leads to. And I've seen plenty. And once you saw couple you saw them all.

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martin's avatar

i feel kinda ashamed, but that's a sample of some 'european resistance' for you. :-)

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russian_bot's avatar

I think it’s some kind of an operative or a troll. Or a very stupid Norwegian. They do exist.

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martin's avatar

did you check if you're on the same side as bill kristoll on this foreign policy issue ('the worst despot in the middle east')? what final miscalculation? do you think the sc and western punditry will come out and strongly condemn israel and call for sanctions and a boycott because it bombed military targets this time? mind you, it is possible that the 'whole wide world' (western politicians and press) will help these 'newcomers' like they did the last time, back when they were still untrained 'moderate rebels'. those 500000 dead and ten million refugees have to be added to the account of empire, as far as i am concerned. isis women with children are also an issue in the north-east (kurds) and even in the west, iirc. and of course the victors have to show the plebs that they got rid of an evil rich guy bathing in luxury (see scenario gaddafi, hussein, ...).

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Martin - I just have a couple of questions for you: which despot do you think has been the worst to kill his own people in the Middle East? And I mean - let's say like from four thousand years before Christ and up to today. And second - who is Bill Kristol? I had to google him - I see that he is a conservative, but why pick that name in particular, and not anyone a bit more known outside of the US?:) And by naming him - do you think that I am an extreme conservative neo-liberal person just because I support that the Syrian dictator has been ousted by his own people? If so, that is actually quite funny:) The world has turned into extreme neo-liberals since yesterday!

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martin's avatar

marianne - 'despot' is indeed a historical term. i do not really consider any of today's political rulers a 'despot' (empire has long learned to stay out of that picture). it's a term western msm use to appeal to the western public that was taught to declare certain rulers 'bad, like in the olden days'. i'm not a historian and i'll pass on the google search for historic 'despots'.

bill kristol comes from https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/i-have-learned-a-few-things and https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-kind-of-ceasefire-where-one-side. as james clapper said: 'not wittingly' (ha!).

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

So Assad was a mordern day despot. Not many like him these days.

Google: despot/ˈdɛspɒt/noun -

a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way.

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martin's avatar

i don't think mr assad fits that description. imo, he didn't have absolute power (as the despots of old), certainly not since the 'spontaneous uprising' and consequently he could not exercise it in a cruel or oppressive way. but bill kristol would agree with you.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

Funny that the last time the Syrians held an election, they lined up in droves to vote for this "despot" who held "absolute power."

You must think that the Syrians are completely stupid.

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Gladwyn d'Souza's avatar

They aren’t or shouldn’t focused on the change in government so much as the geopolitical significance of the ability of colonial apartheid to expand across the region under vassals of the empire like Sisi, MBS, Al-Quasimi, and Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani whose main purpose is repressing their own populations for kleptocrats control over resources.

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

I guess I didn't understand much of the meaning of that:) Who shouldn't focuse on that? And whose purpose is it to repress their own populations - is it the rebels in HTS you are referring to? If so, how do you think that any new group of people coming into power can repress a people or steal from them, more than Assad has done? The US most likely want to steal the Syrian oil, so it's very interesting to see now - how the new leadership will deal with the fact that the oilfields are in the North, where the kurds are in control - totally supported by the US. Any new leadership will want to throw the US out of their country, which can mean that the US will have to engage in a war against Syria to take over the whole country - like a repetition of Iraq. But then they would have to tell the world that they are liberating the Syrian people, and good luck with that - the Syrians are already liberated, and the whole world can see it - and not by any help of the US.

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El dragon's avatar

It's you who you don't understand. Hezbollah is isolated now. There is no more supplies coming in via Syria. Not one bullet will come to Lebanon. If you support Palestinians there is NO way you should celebrate fall of Assad. There is NO other organization who helped Palestinians more than Hezbollah. SMH!

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

How you underestimate Hezbolla - they have no intention of giving up the fight for a free Palestine:) And you totally underestimate the Palestinian resistance. Get on Telegram and get a little sense of what is going on. 670 Palestinian prisoners were set free from Assads prisons yesterday. Palestinians are posting pictures of familiy members they have believed to be dead for years, and yesterday they heard from them - they are out of prison and free. You won't find many Palestinians who would prefer to continue having Assad as despot rather than a chance of a new beginning in Syria. What has happened in Syria gives hope that anything is possible, and maybe the next big change can be a free Palestinian people.

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Ern's avatar

Unfortunately if you read between the lines what Caitlyn and so many others constantly talk about you will see that it is always, ALWAYS, about them. Even when it is Palestine they are talking about you will see the rhetoric revolve around what Caitlyn and others like her believes to be right. This is the famous western chauvinist world view infesting every level and whole spectrum of political alignment in the west. Marxists, liberals and far right fascists alike they have their white supremacist world view and they look at any other group of people through that lens. What do mindless muslim zombies know about? Turkey is a puppet of the US, Iran is a puppet of China, Syrians are used by CIA, Hamas is used by Iran etc. are all very common in the west. The rhetoric drastically changes between the left and the right but the underlying dynamic and framing is the same. WE HATE MUSLIMS WHO DON'T DO OUR BIDDING is a common theme.

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Martin O’Neill's avatar

Thank you Caitlin🇮🇪 That war criminal Biden better not come to Ireland again and play “I’m IRISH “ game.

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Patrick  Clarke's avatar

All the same types are gloating as they did before at the overthrow of the Shah of Iran, of Saddam, Mubarek, Gaddafi and many others. There's a basic wilful refusal to learn every time it happens. I'm no admirer of Assad, nor any of the others, but in each instance what followed was and still is far worse and doubtless will be the same this time

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martin's avatar

they did not gloat when the sha went, imo. that was their guy.

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Patrick  Clarke's avatar

Not so sure about that. A lot of Western opinion dumped him because they thought it was the trendy thing to do

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martin's avatar

those were the days western opinion still did those things after they knew it was safe to do so (like very occasional reports on the savak), but since the coup against mossadegh until the sha's overthrow in 1979 he was definitely the empire's guy, afaik.

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Patrick  Clarke's avatar

Maybe, but Carter's support for him was lukewarm to say the least and many Iranians blame him for what followed

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Patrick Powers's avatar

"And tomorrow the imperial blob will move its crosshairs on to the next unabsorbed nation."

Iran. Though I don't see how they can do it other than nuking the place. Maybe the plan is for Israel to expand until it has absorbed the entire Middle East. But Western planning is seldom that patient.

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Rukshana Afia's avatar

Israel with an enormous amount of Western help won't need to be very patient - the preamble to all this has been going on since the creation of Israel .

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Luke's avatar

I think you will find this interesting from Will Schryver. Idk tho, this Syria incident has seemingly caught a lot of people off guard. Perhaps even Will?

https://x.com/imetatronink/status/1865954041924329790?s=46

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