Listen to a reading of this article (reading by Tim Foley): CNN has a new article out titled “Newly declassified US intel claims Russia is laundering propaganda through unwitting Westerners,” and it’s pretty much exactly what you’d expect if you’ve been critically observing the western mass media over the last several years. An anonymous source making vague and unevidenced claims of an unverifiable nature about a longtime target of the US intelligence cartel, based solely on information provided by that same intelligence cartel.
The Dulles Brothers, Their Secret War on the World, by Stephen Kinzer
The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot
To read these books is to understand the FUBAR mess America is in today
Allen Dulles, first director of the CIA, fired by JFK, and instrumental in Kennedy's assassination is the most evil person in American history and architect of what the CIA became and is today.
The presidential race means nothing when the country is actually run by the CIA and The MICC.
Intro to Bernays "Propaganda" by Mark Crispin Miller is quite good as it's basically a summary, as well as critique of Bernays himself. The book then may be skipped.
Please fill us in on what parts of Talbot's book might bear reconsidering. There is an old saying attributed to Thomas Aquinas, "Beware the man of one book."
From memory, I'm reluctant to be as helpful as I would like on this, since it would be impossible to be appropriately sensitive to the range of people with different perspectives who might read my response.
I do intend to touch on such topics when I can do it at sufficient length to avoid jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Perhaps books in the "Hidden History" series might be helpful.
I know they are there waiting for me, however it's hard to face it knowing all of us have known this and we did nothing, even our FRIEND Bernie : (
Here's a thought, Trump in prison wins election, promptly cleans house (pun intended) as he should have done the first time. As a Cornel West hopeful I would still vote Trump knowing he might actually do something. Winning from prison now that is history and speaks loudly of the dungeon we are all in. The duopoly prison.
That's bc the last time I even heard from the jerk WAS MANY YRS AGO. He's not important enough to me to remember VERBATIM WHAT HE SAID that long ago. IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE A MORON.
And btw, who the fuck asked your nosey ass anything??? Don't be so presumptuous as to speak for me. Get a life.
Lol, I am simply repeating your own previous arguments.
And nobody asked for a verbatim statement. Quit arguing with strawman.
That said "West said something that convinced me he must be a racist but I cannot recall what or when but it sure did convince me!" is a pretty dopey argument, or at least it tells us more about you than West.
Allen Dulles was a psychopath. When he was a young boy a younger brother was drowning and he just stood and watched. Luckily his mother ran down from the house and saved the younger brother.
He always assessed people as to whether they would be "useful" to him. He had zero concern for the consequences of his actions.
Psychopathy is an issue in politics as they are attracted to politics and the power they have over people. It has been suggested that politicians be screened for psychopathic tendencies.
It's a good introduction. Legacy of Ashes: The history of CIA goes deeper and into the more detail. The CIA is a far worse than how it's portrayed in Talbot's book under Dulles.
FWIW, although Dulles was consummately evil, others who followed him could legitimately compete for the title, "most evil person" ever on the planet. Geo Soros comes to mind, among others. If we've learned nothing else over the past few years, we have at least learned that there is no shortage of evil in this world.
Agree, "Devil's Chessboard" to clarify how things work behind the scenes in well-placed circles of government and industry, especially for those who can't wrap their heads around how our own agencies would act against established norms and subvert the democratic process of their own country. For understanding how propaganda works and its effects on the "mass man" in modern society, highly recommend Jacques Ellul's "Propaganda."
Kinda reminds me of when the media pushed the story that Putin put bounties on US military personnel, per CIA reports. Which turned out to be total b.s. and really was just to stir up anti-Russia paranoia. They’ve become completely predictable...
I’ve read it. I’m not. But my opinion of Seymour Hersh is revised—as he tosses the obligatory “Russia started it” crap into all of his monetized column. He’s turned into the very people he used to criticize.
If your comment is intended to refute my implied point that the Kennedys were not the heroes that the media and many boomers have suggested, I don’t think Prouty invalidates my point. The fact that the CIA probably murdered JFK doesn’t prove that JFK was a righteous representative of the public interest. JFK may also have been trying to normalize relations with Russia, and that again isn’t evidence that he was a beacon of beneficence.
I haven’t read Prouty, but I think that he may have had a romantic perspective of “the American Century.”
I'm looking at this on my phone, and one of the deficiencies of Substack is that when you look at Comments in the Activities list, you are unable to go to the context and see what people are replying to. So from memory I would say that my comment was not intended to refute your implied point. I tend to avoid direct disputation, since usually people are pretty resistant to having their mind changed, but it may have been offering an opportunity that you MAY have been unaware of to add some nuance to your existing opinion.
It sounds as if I wasn't very helpful in directing you to the relevant part of what Prouty said. But if you listen on YouTube to the long interview with him for example, there are 3 or 4 revelatory points that are difficult to find elsewhere.
Sorry I can't be more helpful at this juncture, but Prouty was in such a rare position to be well informed about a great deal that was going on, at the highest level, for many years, that it's worth listening to EVERYTHING he said. E.g. how many people know that preparations for a war in Vietnam were under way in 1945; or that the the mechanism the US used for starting that war was to displace over a million North Vietnamese to the South of South Vietnam, after traumatising them?
You might find interesting the parts where Prouty discusses the records of the official policy discussions which are revealing about JFK's attitudes and actions, which are not referred to by several popular accounts of the events, and which directly refute them.
Thanks for sharing. It’s a bit of a shock to hear that the U.S. was sizing up Vietnam for a makeover in 1945, the same year that FDR died. The Security State was in the wings until the money’s front man, Harry Truman, legitimated murder for empire.
I had the pleasure of meeting Colonel Archemedes Patti, who wrote a book titled Why Vietnam? in the 1980’s when he was a guest lecturer in my political science class. His humanity was at odds with the cold detachment of the generals who prosecuted the illegal war, and he wrote with warmth and sincerity about his friend, Ho Chi Minh.
The incompetent CIA is a joke. Former CIA Analysts Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern have said this many times.
Why haven't they released the JFK Files when the 25 year statute has expired so long ago? Many presidents have kept a lid on it. Oh, yeah? Could it be the CIA set up JFK's assassination? I think so.
"The incompetent CIA is a joke." - the whole western world is under its spell and acts accordingly. How is it a joke? That some people realize it is such? Well, those don't matter.
Well, looking at the world from my own Central Eastern European point of view, including the US empire, and studying the past forty years, we have gone from the former respect , love and limitless trust to a endless disgusting mistrust. Back then, we were happy when we could sometimes get our hands on a US newspaper behind the Iron Curtain, now we spit when we hear what the American media on duty lied about, from which it doesn't matter what you read, which newspaper, news channel or television, everywhere you get that centralized, perceptibly one-hand lie ! Well, news production can certainly work there as the Pulitzer Prize winner Udo Ulfkotte, who died under suspicious circumstances (his pacemaker malfunctioned in a strange way), described in his book (The bought journalists) that in Germany there is always a secret service officer sitting next to every journalist who writes an article, who tells him that what can they describe to the public ! Germany is not ashamed to describe the truth, it is an occupied country to this day where the Germans cannot even let out a loud fart without the permission of their detention officers ! But after studying the Free American Press (laughs), I have a strong suspicion that the colleagues of the same officers who censor "freedom" in the countries of the occupied vassals are the same as in the USA !
PS: I recommend reading Udo Ulfkotte's books, maybe you will look at your world with slightly different eyes after that !
Today, the person “sitting next to every journalist” — is the bought and paid for editor. Actually, the editor is on the the other end of the computer. In the 90’s, journalists reported seeing their copy changed before their very eyes. If they complained, they were demoted or dumped so that today we have nobody willing to not toe the line. Accept Wikileaks and we see the price exacted for working there.
Most (not all) of the Poles that I know are still all in, to the point where a Pole can imagine no greater praise than an American calling him a good dog.
Hungarian-Polish friendship goes back several centuries, we are the only nation, I proudly state, on whom the Poles could always count ! But their current behavior is shocking to us, and we are very worried about them ! They have apparently forgotten their history thoroughly, but they should only look back to the 1930s, when they had a lot of faith in French-British promises and, just like now in the US , they believed themselves to be bigger than reality. The end result is known, their "friends" pushed them in 1945, just like us, into the bloody paws of Joszif Visserionovich Stalin, from which grip we can only be freed in 1991, to get into another no less deadly grip ! Hereby, I would like to send a message to our Polish friends with a saying "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
Take away Russia, and Poland would go from America's Special Little Buddy to a rather yappy middling satrapy of no particular importance, like Colombia with delusions of grandeur but no cocaine.
For that matter, Ukraine would shift from.Muh Beacon Of Freedom And Democracy to a pariah state.
On the other side of the divide, here in the US, my experience in the early 90s was a lot like you describe. So much hope for a better world with the end of the Cold War. It's heart breaking looking back over the past 30 years and seeing what happened and where we are.
(Like you, I place the preponderance of the blame on the US Empire. I admit during the 90s supporting most of its actions attempting to lock in unipolar dominance over the world, expecting this to be the triumph of a force for good. I was very naive. And the Empire has destroyed any trust anyone could have in it.)
I know the local conditions in the USA well, since the majority of my family lives there and I have been visiting there regularly for more than forty years, so I get my experiences directly from the first hand ! My first visit was in 1980, when the communist dictatorship allowed me to visit my father living in exile by holding my wife and little daughter hostage. Back then, I could still see the real "American Dream" that the Free World could offer to all decent people who wanted freedom and wanted to work. For me, who had five special professions and was one of the leading professionals in my country, a successful life was just within reach, but I was not able to leave my family, no matter how good a life might have been waiting for me. But it was good to know that there is a free world on earth where you are not persecuted for your religion and your political views, but this view has changed in me in the nearly forty years that have passed since then, as I have seen how the former dream has turned into a world that I would definitely not want it for myself or my family. The USA, that is, the dark power that took over the "Land of the Free" took away from us the illusion that kept so many of us alive while we languished in the gray monotony of a communist dictatorship. The picture that I once saw and experienced myself is the picture of the community of hardworking American people. has faded, and now I have such images of the USA as the ruins of once-prosperous factories that were moved abroad for profit, and as the endless image of unfortunate people running to drugs in their final desperation, wandering like zombies in big cities! Is there a future for hard-working young people who want to do things here ?
Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective--one that few people have--on how the promise of a much better world for all people that seemed so much within reach just a few decades ago has been taken away.
I do it so that my stories might help people to open their eyes!
Not to mention that if someone (the USA) appoints you as the leading power of the planet, it certainly comes with obligations! He should behave like that, and not like a puffing violent warlord in Somalia!
I was fortunate enough to see Udo interviewed before he died. Never could find the book at that time, but nothing surprises me about the crimes of the CIA
The USA is affected by the manufactured mental disorders Russophobia and Sinophobia. The Neocon Nazis, Neolib Nazis and Zio-Nazis have turned our nation into the world's foremost terrorist state.
Thank you for stating facts. There is plethora manufactured mental disorders going on here in the Carnival of States. Scared, self interested lot of opportunists that believe that they are Capitalists @ $30k/year... need I say more?
That's funny, wage slaves thinking they're capitalists. When I was a Neocon Dupe it was exactly how I thought although my income was twice as high. Yet still I was a wage slave working overtime. There were times I worked 36 to 48 hours straight and got a pat on the back from the capitalists.
And women are really conned into that mess. They fight to break the “glass ceiling” by working 60 hours a week or more for 1/2 to 3/4 the wages of their young male counterparts and all the time think they are feminists. Patriarchal women are as duped and sheepley as they can get—with Hillary as Bo Peep.
You might be shocked or surprised to know that we are all chattel...it says so all over your social security card.
Name ALL CAPS
3#-2#-4#
At the bottom
Property of the government.
Sovereign citizens
Have name (as you print it
In red
SC1,2,3,4,5,or6-2#-4#
The bottom reads Sovereign citizen in red
They are our masters
1%
It all makes sense, once we understand the roles.
All reason falls into line.
I never post only comment
It pains me to no end but we blew our chance to shut them down in the 70s when the government was flooding the streets with cocaine and heroin...this is a cycle that has repeated since the opium wars.
I'm rooting for BRICS+ to shake the yoke. We Americans are but food for the wolves, starting with the children.
IMO when the media reports an issue about another country, it's usually something our government is also doing. Or they are setting something up that's they're about to drop on the public.
Over the years by trial and error they have learned what works and what doesn't. Here' propaganda expert Hermann Göring.
Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.[Ed: How quaint.]
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.. Dr. G.M. Gilbert 1976 "The Memory of Justice"
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)
I learned all of that info while studying labor history WW1 was the best example. From agents provocateur, private corporate armies, war has always been a racket Smedley Butler.
We run 20 to 30 wars every single year after WW2.
They're not advertised.
70 coup plots
Boots on everyone's neck from womb to tomb.
We outnumber them 10,000,000 to 1 our Oligarchs that is. Land of the sheep, home of the ignorant 'merica.
I absolutely love Caitlin’s relentless determination to call out our fake media for propagating the lies of our crooked government...over and over and over again.
(I use that word “fake”, not as 45 does, to slander the media that don’t buy his BS, but all of the reputable fronts that profit so abundantly by peddling shoddy yarns penned by committed soldiers of empire.)
The beauty of Caitlin’s preoccupation with the liars in charge and the lies they so effectively filter through the populace is that there is no bottom in this well. To properly document the fraud that has been perpetrated on the American people, that IS still being perpetrated, could easily take a team of professional journalists with no competing responsibilities. Caitlin’s fixation on this monumental dysfunction is fortuitous.
If the CIA is using CNN to spread propaganda, it must be a "STEALTH Operation", since hardly anyone watches it anymore! The brainless CNN anchors were recently declaring that "Nobody will be watching Tucker Carlson interview Trump!" As we all know, it was the most watched interview in history. CNN, like the CIA has turned into a joke!
Viewership isn't as important to CNN as being on screens everywhere. Even though the screens in restaurants, lobbies, etc. aren't watched per se, they put the party line in our line of sight that much more often. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect
The crazy thing about the "Russiagate" conspiracy theory is that it assumed consumers would believe that Russia's FSB is so all-powerful that it can jump all the fences of 18 US Intel agencies and the MI6 to deliver its dastardly disinfo. And who's to say that a CIA troll farm can't spoof a Russian troll farm? What an Intel agency disinformation brain scramble! Maybe we have so many Western Intel agencies that they're the ones with the most scrambled brains?
When the buildings shown in the opening photo of this article become window-broken burnt out hulks, I'll know that people have risen up and life will improve.
But as long as those buildings and entities exist (CIA and CNN), we are slaves.
Every American should read two books :
The Dulles Brothers, Their Secret War on the World, by Stephen Kinzer
The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot
To read these books is to understand the FUBAR mess America is in today
Allen Dulles, first director of the CIA, fired by JFK, and instrumental in Kennedy's assassination is the most evil person in American history and architect of what the CIA became and is today.
The presidential race means nothing when the country is actually run by the CIA and The MICC.
Intro to Bernays "Propaganda" by Mark Crispin Miller is quite good as it's basically a summary, as well as critique of Bernays himself. The book then may be skipped.
2 would certainly be better than none!
More seriously, The D Chessboard certainly exposes Dulles et al, but promotes other myths.
Please fill us in on what parts of Talbot's book might bear reconsidering. There is an old saying attributed to Thomas Aquinas, "Beware the man of one book."
From memory, I'm reluctant to be as helpful as I would like on this, since it would be impossible to be appropriately sensitive to the range of people with different perspectives who might read my response.
I do intend to touch on such topics when I can do it at sufficient length to avoid jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Perhaps books in the "Hidden History" series might be helpful.
Sorry.
Also The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski.
I know they are there waiting for me, however it's hard to face it knowing all of us have known this and we did nothing, even our FRIEND Bernie : (
Here's a thought, Trump in prison wins election, promptly cleans house (pun intended) as he should have done the first time. As a Cornel West hopeful I would still vote Trump knowing he might actually do something. Winning from prison now that is history and speaks loudly of the dungeon we are all in. The duopoly prison.
Bernie is not our friend. Neither is CW.
Letsrock insists that West must be a racist, but he so far has not produced specifics.
That's bc the last time I even heard from the jerk WAS MANY YRS AGO. He's not important enough to me to remember VERBATIM WHAT HE SAID that long ago. IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE A MORON.
And btw, who the fuck asked your nosey ass anything??? Don't be so presumptuous as to speak for me. Get a life.
Lol, I am simply repeating your own previous arguments.
And nobody asked for a verbatim statement. Quit arguing with strawman.
That said "West said something that convinced me he must be a racist but I cannot recall what or when but it sure did convince me!" is a pretty dopey argument, or at least it tells us more about you than West.
I have read The Devil's Chessboard and a quote that really stuck with me due to it being so disturbing...
''Dulles went about the grave business of probing Kennedy’s death with an
oddly sprightly attitude. When it came time for the commission to examine
JFK’s gore-soaked clothing, Dulles stunned his fellow investigators with an
inappropriate quip. “By George,” he exclaimed, as he inspected Kennedy’s tie,
which had been clipped off with surgical scissors by the Parkland doctors, “the
president wore a clip-on tie.” By contrast, when Warren had to view Kennedy’s
autopsy photos, he later remarked, “[They] were so horrible that I could not
sleep well for nights.” ''
Allen Dulles was a psychopath. When he was a young boy a younger brother was drowning and he just stood and watched. Luckily his mother ran down from the house and saved the younger brother.
He always assessed people as to whether they would be "useful" to him. He had zero concern for the consequences of his actions.
Psychopathy is an issue in politics as they are attracted to politics and the power they have over people. It has been suggested that politicians be screened for psychopathic tendencies.
And others suggest that they already screen themselves.
(Just to the opposite ends of those you cite.)
It's a good introduction. Legacy of Ashes: The history of CIA goes deeper and into the more detail. The CIA is a far worse than how it's portrayed in Talbot's book under Dulles.
I read "The Brothers" a couple of years ago, highly recommended for this topic.
FWIW, although Dulles was consummately evil, others who followed him could legitimately compete for the title, "most evil person" ever on the planet. Geo Soros comes to mind, among others. If we've learned nothing else over the past few years, we have at least learned that there is no shortage of evil in this world.
Thanks for the recs
Agree, "Devil's Chessboard" to clarify how things work behind the scenes in well-placed circles of government and industry, especially for those who can't wrap their heads around how our own agencies would act against established norms and subvert the democratic process of their own country. For understanding how propaganda works and its effects on the "mass man" in modern society, highly recommend Jacques Ellul's "Propaganda."
Kinda reminds me of when the media pushed the story that Putin put bounties on US military personnel, per CIA reports. Which turned out to be total b.s. and really was just to stir up anti-Russia paranoia. They’ve become completely predictable...
Yes. And good for them. Shooting themselves in the foot so we don’t have to. 😄😁😆
I hope to live to see the day when Langley is razed down to the foundations.
Along with Quantico.
The scary thing is that JFK was killed for having plans to do that very thing.
If you read Seymour Hersh’s The Dark Side of Camelot, your opinion of the Kennedys is liable to be revised.
I’ve read it. I’m not. But my opinion of Seymour Hersh is revised—as he tosses the obligatory “Russia started it” crap into all of his monetized column. He’s turned into the very people he used to criticize.
Read and listen to Fletcher Prouty
If your comment is intended to refute my implied point that the Kennedys were not the heroes that the media and many boomers have suggested, I don’t think Prouty invalidates my point. The fact that the CIA probably murdered JFK doesn’t prove that JFK was a righteous representative of the public interest. JFK may also have been trying to normalize relations with Russia, and that again isn’t evidence that he was a beacon of beneficence.
I haven’t read Prouty, but I think that he may have had a romantic perspective of “the American Century.”
Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
I'm looking at this on my phone, and one of the deficiencies of Substack is that when you look at Comments in the Activities list, you are unable to go to the context and see what people are replying to. So from memory I would say that my comment was not intended to refute your implied point. I tend to avoid direct disputation, since usually people are pretty resistant to having their mind changed, but it may have been offering an opportunity that you MAY have been unaware of to add some nuance to your existing opinion.
It sounds as if I wasn't very helpful in directing you to the relevant part of what Prouty said. But if you listen on YouTube to the long interview with him for example, there are 3 or 4 revelatory points that are difficult to find elsewhere.
Sorry I can't be more helpful at this juncture, but Prouty was in such a rare position to be well informed about a great deal that was going on, at the highest level, for many years, that it's worth listening to EVERYTHING he said. E.g. how many people know that preparations for a war in Vietnam were under way in 1945; or that the the mechanism the US used for starting that war was to displace over a million North Vietnamese to the South of South Vietnam, after traumatising them?
You might find interesting the parts where Prouty discusses the records of the official policy discussions which are revealing about JFK's attitudes and actions, which are not referred to by several popular accounts of the events, and which directly refute them.
Thanks for sharing. It’s a bit of a shock to hear that the U.S. was sizing up Vietnam for a makeover in 1945, the same year that FDR died. The Security State was in the wings until the money’s front man, Harry Truman, legitimated murder for empire.
I had the pleasure of meeting Colonel Archemedes Patti, who wrote a book titled Why Vietnam? in the 1980’s when he was a guest lecturer in my political science class. His humanity was at odds with the cold detachment of the generals who prosecuted the illegal war, and he wrote with warmth and sincerity about his friend, Ho Chi Minh.
https://vietnamnet.vn/en/american-intelligence-officer-a-special-witness-to-national-day-1945-671714.html
Clumsy and transparent. The CIA is becoming a joke.
The incompetent CIA is a joke. Former CIA Analysts Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern have said this many times.
Why haven't they released the JFK Files when the 25 year statute has expired so long ago? Many presidents have kept a lid on it. Oh, yeah? Could it be the CIA set up JFK's assassination? I think so.
As long as a single page is held back, we must assume that page is the smoking gun.
True that.
"The incompetent CIA is a joke." - the whole western world is under its spell and acts accordingly. How is it a joke? That some people realize it is such? Well, those don't matter.
Hopefully the numbers of those who realize grow.
Many who realize are also fine with it. They agree with its role as a duper of the “free” world.
Those are Neocon Nazis.
Of course they did. At the behest of the Dullas Brothers.
Well, looking at the world from my own Central Eastern European point of view, including the US empire, and studying the past forty years, we have gone from the former respect , love and limitless trust to a endless disgusting mistrust. Back then, we were happy when we could sometimes get our hands on a US newspaper behind the Iron Curtain, now we spit when we hear what the American media on duty lied about, from which it doesn't matter what you read, which newspaper, news channel or television, everywhere you get that centralized, perceptibly one-hand lie ! Well, news production can certainly work there as the Pulitzer Prize winner Udo Ulfkotte, who died under suspicious circumstances (his pacemaker malfunctioned in a strange way), described in his book (The bought journalists) that in Germany there is always a secret service officer sitting next to every journalist who writes an article, who tells him that what can they describe to the public ! Germany is not ashamed to describe the truth, it is an occupied country to this day where the Germans cannot even let out a loud fart without the permission of their detention officers ! But after studying the Free American Press (laughs), I have a strong suspicion that the colleagues of the same officers who censor "freedom" in the countries of the occupied vassals are the same as in the USA !
PS: I recommend reading Udo Ulfkotte's books, maybe you will look at your world with slightly different eyes after that !
Today, the person “sitting next to every journalist” — is the bought and paid for editor. Actually, the editor is on the the other end of the computer. In the 90’s, journalists reported seeing their copy changed before their very eyes. If they complained, they were demoted or dumped so that today we have nobody willing to not toe the line. Accept Wikileaks and we see the price exacted for working there.
Most (not all) of the Poles that I know are still all in, to the point where a Pole can imagine no greater praise than an American calling him a good dog.
Hungarian-Polish friendship goes back several centuries, we are the only nation, I proudly state, on whom the Poles could always count ! But their current behavior is shocking to us, and we are very worried about them ! They have apparently forgotten their history thoroughly, but they should only look back to the 1930s, when they had a lot of faith in French-British promises and, just like now in the US , they believed themselves to be bigger than reality. The end result is known, their "friends" pushed them in 1945, just like us, into the bloody paws of Joszif Visserionovich Stalin, from which grip we can only be freed in 1991, to get into another no less deadly grip ! Hereby, I would like to send a message to our Polish friends with a saying "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
Take away Russia, and Poland would go from America's Special Little Buddy to a rather yappy middling satrapy of no particular importance, like Colombia with delusions of grandeur but no cocaine.
For that matter, Ukraine would shift from.Muh Beacon Of Freedom And Democracy to a pariah state.
On the other side of the divide, here in the US, my experience in the early 90s was a lot like you describe. So much hope for a better world with the end of the Cold War. It's heart breaking looking back over the past 30 years and seeing what happened and where we are.
(Like you, I place the preponderance of the blame on the US Empire. I admit during the 90s supporting most of its actions attempting to lock in unipolar dominance over the world, expecting this to be the triumph of a force for good. I was very naive. And the Empire has destroyed any trust anyone could have in it.)
I know the local conditions in the USA well, since the majority of my family lives there and I have been visiting there regularly for more than forty years, so I get my experiences directly from the first hand ! My first visit was in 1980, when the communist dictatorship allowed me to visit my father living in exile by holding my wife and little daughter hostage. Back then, I could still see the real "American Dream" that the Free World could offer to all decent people who wanted freedom and wanted to work. For me, who had five special professions and was one of the leading professionals in my country, a successful life was just within reach, but I was not able to leave my family, no matter how good a life might have been waiting for me. But it was good to know that there is a free world on earth where you are not persecuted for your religion and your political views, but this view has changed in me in the nearly forty years that have passed since then, as I have seen how the former dream has turned into a world that I would definitely not want it for myself or my family. The USA, that is, the dark power that took over the "Land of the Free" took away from us the illusion that kept so many of us alive while we languished in the gray monotony of a communist dictatorship. The picture that I once saw and experienced myself is the picture of the community of hardworking American people. has faded, and now I have such images of the USA as the ruins of once-prosperous factories that were moved abroad for profit, and as the endless image of unfortunate people running to drugs in their final desperation, wandering like zombies in big cities! Is there a future for hard-working young people who want to do things here ?
Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective--one that few people have--on how the promise of a much better world for all people that seemed so much within reach just a few decades ago has been taken away.
Best wishes to you. LM
Thank you L.M.
I do it so that my stories might help people to open their eyes!
Not to mention that if someone (the USA) appoints you as the leading power of the planet, it certainly comes with obligations! He should behave like that, and not like a puffing violent warlord in Somalia!
Noblesse oblige - meaning "nobility obliges".
Regards from Hungary
I was fortunate enough to see Udo interviewed before he died. Never could find the book at that time, but nothing surprises me about the crimes of the CIA
Wooo hooooo, the first voice from behind the curtain speaking truth.
It is so refreshing to hear from someone that has open eyes and no funding from CIA cutouts.
Russia has better things to do with its time and resources than to propagandize western sheep who have ZERO influence on the wolves “leading” them.
The budget of the US Propaganda Machine is greater than the budget of WW2.
As you so aptly quoted, "That which is presented without evidence can be discounted without evidence.".
The USA is affected by the manufactured mental disorders Russophobia and Sinophobia. The Neocon Nazis, Neolib Nazis and Zio-Nazis have turned our nation into the world's foremost terrorist state.
Thank you for stating facts. There is plethora manufactured mental disorders going on here in the Carnival of States. Scared, self interested lot of opportunists that believe that they are Capitalists @ $30k/year... need I say more?
That's funny, wage slaves thinking they're capitalists. When I was a Neocon Dupe it was exactly how I thought although my income was twice as high. Yet still I was a wage slave working overtime. There were times I worked 36 to 48 hours straight and got a pat on the back from the capitalists.
And women are really conned into that mess. They fight to break the “glass ceiling” by working 60 hours a week or more for 1/2 to 3/4 the wages of their young male counterparts and all the time think they are feminists. Patriarchal women are as duped and sheepley as they can get—with Hillary as Bo Peep.
You might be shocked or surprised to know that we are all chattel...it says so all over your social security card.
Name ALL CAPS
3#-2#-4#
At the bottom
Property of the government.
Sovereign citizens
Have name (as you print it
In red
SC1,2,3,4,5,or6-2#-4#
The bottom reads Sovereign citizen in red
They are our masters
1%
It all makes sense, once we understand the roles.
All reason falls into line.
I never post only comment
It pains me to no end but we blew our chance to shut them down in the 70s when the government was flooding the streets with cocaine and heroin...this is a cycle that has repeated since the opium wars.
I'm rooting for BRICS+ to shake the yoke. We Americans are but food for the wolves, starting with the children.
IMO when the media reports an issue about another country, it's usually something our government is also doing. Or they are setting something up that's they're about to drop on the public.
Counter Intelligence Agency - at least they were honest by stating that they're against intelligence.
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Over the years by trial and error they have learned what works and what doesn't. Here' propaganda expert Hermann Göring.
Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.[Ed: How quaint.]
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.. Dr. G.M. Gilbert 1976 "The Memory of Justice"
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)
I learned all of that info while studying labor history WW1 was the best example. From agents provocateur, private corporate armies, war has always been a racket Smedley Butler.
We run 20 to 30 wars every single year after WW2.
They're not advertised.
70 coup plots
Boots on everyone's neck from womb to tomb.
We outnumber them 10,000,000 to 1 our Oligarchs that is. Land of the sheep, home of the ignorant 'merica.
Nailed it.
You are awesome 💕 thank you Jeano
I absolutely love Caitlin’s relentless determination to call out our fake media for propagating the lies of our crooked government...over and over and over again.
(I use that word “fake”, not as 45 does, to slander the media that don’t buy his BS, but all of the reputable fronts that profit so abundantly by peddling shoddy yarns penned by committed soldiers of empire.)
The beauty of Caitlin’s preoccupation with the liars in charge and the lies they so effectively filter through the populace is that there is no bottom in this well. To properly document the fraud that has been perpetrated on the American people, that IS still being perpetrated, could easily take a team of professional journalists with no competing responsibilities. Caitlin’s fixation on this monumental dysfunction is fortuitous.
Thank you Caitlin🙏
If the CIA is using CNN to spread propaganda, it must be a "STEALTH Operation", since hardly anyone watches it anymore! The brainless CNN anchors were recently declaring that "Nobody will be watching Tucker Carlson interview Trump!" As we all know, it was the most watched interview in history. CNN, like the CIA has turned into a joke!
Viewership isn't as important to CNN as being on screens everywhere. Even though the screens in restaurants, lobbies, etc. aren't watched per se, they put the party line in our line of sight that much more often. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect
Without credibility, screen counts lack effect.
Psyops don't need your consent to work and CNN is nothing less than that.
The crazy thing about the "Russiagate" conspiracy theory is that it assumed consumers would believe that Russia's FSB is so all-powerful that it can jump all the fences of 18 US Intel agencies and the MI6 to deliver its dastardly disinfo. And who's to say that a CIA troll farm can't spoof a Russian troll farm? What an Intel agency disinformation brain scramble! Maybe we have so many Western Intel agencies that they're the ones with the most scrambled brains?
When the buildings shown in the opening photo of this article become window-broken burnt out hulks, I'll know that people have risen up and life will improve.
But as long as those buildings and entities exist (CIA and CNN), we are slaves.
Well said brother