Excellent--so succinct. Love the line about the Democrats implementing the GOP goals better than the GOP! Have been trying to communicate this to liberals for a long time.
I always phrase it that the only difference between the two parties is marketing, its like the pepsi challenge, regardless of which glass of soda you choose Pepsi or Coke you are still left with a glass of sugar water.
Here in Australia we have the same problem, Liberal ( the Liberal Party here in Aus being right wing ) or Liberal Lite. I like to say 'Same pig, different lipstick'.
In the minds of electorate there are, the zombies who "vote" are sure there are, and that's what perpetuates the status quo. So it might as well be more useful to throw their allegiances as they perceive them in their faces every single time.
Its like a sports store that sells one teams memorabilia in the mall and across the way is a store that sells the other teams stuff. Dumbass kids come out of one and start fights with the other kids both wearing Caps and Jerseys with their teams. The same guy owns both stores. This is our political system.
Many people claim religious belief as a means of avoiding responsibility for their actions: ‘God made me do it’ or ‘I do this in the name of religion’. Unfortunately, religious leaders are all too happy to accept this as it gives them power. Never mind that every main religion preaches love and not killing.
All of those in the mainstream. I put ‘main’ religions in case there are any cult-type religions which advocate violence of which I am unaware. I would like to think there are no religions which preach violence but I am sure there are a few.
Now is that strange awkward quiet time while the apparatus decides how to best exploit a large emotional event and the sheep wait quietly to be told what to think about it.
Caitlin, I agree with your take on Palestinians. The fact that this conflict will knock Ukraine off the front page, just as Russia is kicking ass, is suspicious. The west has just been handed the excuse they need to stop supporting Ukraine without having to answer a lot of questions.
One pundit already started this propaganda campaign by writing that Israel was attacked because its protector was distracted by its proxy war. Ludicrous? YES! But we've learned that they'll do or say anything and the population is so numb and dumbed down that they'll swallow it.
Am I saying that Israel deliberately provoked a war just to give the U.S. an excuse to rip the pacifier from repulsive Zelensky's mouth? No, I have no proof. But, when things happen to help the U.S. cover up its huge mistakes, it's rarely a coincidence!
The Israel-Palestine war, like the one in Ukraine, was PROVOKED. On that I have no doubt, none!
That was my first reaction to the news, it is dividing the anti-war right over the question of war. When its a close military ally of the US that has a history of provoking arab nations for US benefit than I say your suspicious is well founded. Who cares if you can prove it or have evidence, if Mossad and the CIA did their job properly there is no evidence to be found.
As far as dividing the anti-war right, where has the right been going on this issue? What is Tucker Carlson’s position (since that influences or reflects much of the alternative right’s views)?
I think this is the most likely reason, as their entire intelligence apparatus seemed to fail (just like 911) but Intelligence agencies just a day later seem to suddenly be able to tell us Iran was behind it. How convenient. That they collected and confirmed and reported in just a day.
Your articles are usually spot-on, this one exceptionally good because it's straight to the point - what does the world expect the Palestinians to do? For at least 40 years this has been a political issue, with solutions talked about, but never implemented. The U.S. clearly needs to cut funding to Israel until a viable solution has been reached. Israel has been so ghettoized with settlements that a 2-state solution doesn't seem possible.
Bernie Sanders went down the Russiagate rabbit hole. He's one hundred percent behind Biden's proxy war with Russia. He's a complete f*cking sellout. I have no use for the man and I once supported him.
Agreed. Bernie Sanders is a traitor and sold out millions of people. Imagine being in a position in history twice to change things and you sell out both times. Never follow anyone of these old "reformers" who only want to repaint the same death machine. That's includes the disco preacher Cornel West. Same type of liar, no plan other name dropping people who actually did stuff in history and pretending he is one of them.
Biden wont lose votes. He will lose MONEY from political action committees. And that money will be deliberately sent over to an opponent targeted at upending him. By Israelis.
But we are asked to instead believe the fiction that it is Russia meddling in US politics.
The U$ofA has been captured by the Money Power. The Money Power allows patently absurd but allowable levels of 'debt' provided it behaves itself & gives huge amounts of [imaginary] money to entities it approves of while leaving the citizens of the US with the barrelling usury 'debt' for future generations to pay! https://www.worldometers.info/us-debt-clock/ Israel is a Rothschild Project. Don't expect any help whatsoever for the Palestinians from the U$ofA; they'll probably be next as useful idiots have a limited shelf life.
This may be extremely far-fetched and unfeasible given the political landscape, but I hope that the Arab world unites against Israel on the side of Palestine. From Afghanistan to Egypt, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to rid the Middle East of Zionism and - more importantly - of a major source of US influence.
Right. Now where do I find the coliseum to watch the gladiators and crucifctions and stuff? I may need a pathway illuminated by burning people on poles.
Just a thought: is it possible Israel did know in advance about the potential attacks, decide to do nothing about it so Palestine would attack, and so Israel could wield an even bigger stick than normal? I find it very hard to believe the Israel/US/Western intel had no idea at all.
I’ve thought that. All of these “unprovoked” provocations look exactly like 9/11. The template is the same even if the actions taken are smaller. And no, no government cares if it’s citizens are killed if that killing will advance the government’s agenda.
Their must have been some hints of it, but the scale of the operation probably caught them by surprise. So the cycle of violence will continue. We got guys like the corrupt Netanyahu saying they will make Gaza into a rubble city - they've already cut off power to the 750K inhabitants. A lot of innocent human beings who had nothing to do with the Hamas attack will be slaughtered by Israel's inevitable, brutal reprisal i.e. mowing the lawn. Note: collective punishment *is* a war crime.
A number of people in my US city in early 2022 who have no ties to Ukraine started proudly flying the Ukrainian flag and putting up signs - "Pray (prey in my mind) for Ukraine".
I suppose those flags will now be replaced by Israeli flags.
The answer to resolving Israel/Palestine conflict is easy but not easy to do. The entire conflict in BOTH sides is rooted in racism; Not the fake racism that the DNC uses as a political weapon, the real kind where Jews think they are ‘chosen’ by a imaginary god and are superior biologically and culturally to Palestinians AND Palestinians believe Jews are all evil and should be killed as their duty to Allah. Get rid of racists in leadership positions. Promote a generation of people that understand that we’re all one life force and all manifestations of ‘God’. Until this is admitted, there will be blood.
Right now the talk is of banning AfD on any pretext, in order to prevent politicians opposed to American hegemony to power from getting elected. Germany already has gutted freedom of speech and assembly in order to squelch dissent from the war in Ukraine. The German political class didn't raise so much as a peep.
For that matter, Stoltenberg has stated that Slovakia will not be allowed to change its policies with regard to Ukraine.
Hell, the United States committed an act of war by blowing up Nordstream, and the only European response was to pretend it didn't happen. When a European is pressed, forced to admit that the US did it, they just stare at their shoes and mumble something about how they deserve it.
Hear, hear on the Israel comments. My mother was Jewish but I don’t think she’d support what’s going on against Palestinians. I certainly don’t support what should be my heritage.
God, you are such a—I was going to say PIG, but pity the poor pig to be put in your same class. I guess the worst and most accuracy thing I can call you is a white man.
It might be noted as well that Israel often oppresses and kills Palestinians for no reason other than as warning and discouragement - mowing the law, they call it. Or because Palestinian reaction then justifies serious counter-reaction, as is about to happen.
"It would be easy for me to sit here in my armchair and say the Palestinians should either maintain the status quo or lie down, relinquish their homes and homeland and accept whatever table scraps they’re able to get, but we can see from the Palestinian perspective that that’s not reasonable."
Wasn't that the Jewish strategy during the Holocaust?.
The "anti-semite" accusation loses a lot of its punch when upstanding anti-zionist Jews like Max Blumenthal and others are prominent and eloquent critics of Israel. What does it mean anyway? Palestinians are semites. Jews everywhere are very likely concerned, not only in human sympathy for the Gaza Palestinians who are about to be massacred, but how that reflects unjustly on Jews generally. As for Democrats - their callous support for the Ukraine proxy war against Russia is typical: they have launched far more wars than Republicans have, and are typically belligerent. As for LGBTQ and trans rights, these should not be politicized any more than brown eyes v blue, left v right- handedness, etc.
Mauro Vaiani: Years ago my wife and I catered an event at a Jewish Synagogue/community center. We served Hummus. All the old Jewish women would come to the buffet and ask, "What is in the Hummus?"
Technicalities technicalities…occupation takes many forms. You don’t need to be in a land to be occupying it. Some would maintain that simply by being on some random
Land because agents of history miraculously willed it to be so (with a Little terrorism on the part of the original Zionists. . Many people
Will die not because of Hamas ( though they would have assumed that) but because Israel has chosen to do what it always does, fight fire with a much larger fire
Israel never belonged in Palestine, 1948 Nakba. Both Jonathan Cook and Chris Hedges offer excellent articles on the subject. Any good human being must feel that the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves from Israel’s terrorist and illegal occupation.☮️⚖️🇵🇸
Excellent--so succinct. Love the line about the Democrats implementing the GOP goals better than the GOP! Have been trying to communicate this to liberals for a long time.
There is no left or right only the uniparty.
Agree. The differences are in style
I always phrase it that the only difference between the two parties is marketing, its like the pepsi challenge, regardless of which glass of soda you choose Pepsi or Coke you are still left with a glass of sugar water.
Your view works, too. Nice and simple and understandable. Good marketing.
Here in Australia we have the same problem, Liberal ( the Liberal Party here in Aus being right wing ) or Liberal Lite. I like to say 'Same pig, different lipstick'.
In the minds of electorate there are, the zombies who "vote" are sure there are, and that's what perpetuates the status quo. So it might as well be more useful to throw their allegiances as they perceive them in their faces every single time.
They're all buggerin each other.
Its like a sports store that sells one teams memorabilia in the mall and across the way is a store that sells the other teams stuff. Dumbass kids come out of one and start fights with the other kids both wearing Caps and Jerseys with their teams. The same guy owns both stores. This is our political system.
Destruction of the poor family by dependency: Johnson
Normalizing deficit spending: Reagan.
"Ending welfare as we know it": Clinton
Legalizing Embryonic Stem Cell experimentation: "Christian" George Bush
Normalizing Government pressure on "Points of Light" to suppress speech that questions official government positions: Biden
Most common phrases among American "Christians" 2001-2008
1.) I wonder why President Bush did that [unChristian thing].
2.) God gave us President Bush to do Christian things.
Many people claim religious belief as a means of avoiding responsibility for their actions: ‘God made me do it’ or ‘I do this in the name of religion’. Unfortunately, religious leaders are all too happy to accept this as it gives them power. Never mind that every main religion preaches love and not killing.
Which would you call the main religions?
All of those in the mainstream. I put ‘main’ religions in case there are any cult-type religions which advocate violence of which I am unaware. I would like to think there are no religions which preach violence but I am sure there are a few.
Amish warlords?
Jain pirates?
Now is that strange awkward quiet time while the apparatus decides how to best exploit a large emotional event and the sheep wait quietly to be told what to think about it.
Like watching the spinning reboot icon image on a computer.
Yes - while the virus is being downloaded to your machine.
Caitlin, I agree with your take on Palestinians. The fact that this conflict will knock Ukraine off the front page, just as Russia is kicking ass, is suspicious. The west has just been handed the excuse they need to stop supporting Ukraine without having to answer a lot of questions.
One pundit already started this propaganda campaign by writing that Israel was attacked because its protector was distracted by its proxy war. Ludicrous? YES! But we've learned that they'll do or say anything and the population is so numb and dumbed down that they'll swallow it.
Am I saying that Israel deliberately provoked a war just to give the U.S. an excuse to rip the pacifier from repulsive Zelensky's mouth? No, I have no proof. But, when things happen to help the U.S. cover up its huge mistakes, it's rarely a coincidence!
The Israel-Palestine war, like the one in Ukraine, was PROVOKED. On that I have no doubt, none!
I agree both wars were provoked, the US and Israel have always been bedfellows, along with the UK.
The US would absolutely throw under the bus anyone if its ass needs covering. We all know that Kissinger quip.
That was my first reaction to the news, it is dividing the anti-war right over the question of war. When its a close military ally of the US that has a history of provoking arab nations for US benefit than I say your suspicious is well founded. Who cares if you can prove it or have evidence, if Mossad and the CIA did their job properly there is no evidence to be found.
As far as dividing the anti-war right, where has the right been going on this issue? What is Tucker Carlson’s position (since that influences or reflects much of the alternative right’s views)?
This is stupid. Please read the history! Ignoring it does not help the Palestinian cause.
Pretending that the US or any western nation will help the Palestinian cause is blatantly ignoring the history and frankly delusional.
This.
I think this is the most likely reason, as their entire intelligence apparatus seemed to fail (just like 911) but Intelligence agencies just a day later seem to suddenly be able to tell us Iran was behind it. How convenient. That they collected and confirmed and reported in just a day.
PURE SPECULATION BELOW. However, when big events stir the pot, I "follow the money" and see who benefits.
1)Nuts&Yahoo has "excuse" to accelerate ethnic cleansing. Thousands of Palestinians are being massacred in Gaza by a brutal bombing campaign.
2)Israel could attack Iran and maybe increase its terrorism in Syria.
3)Bumps Ukraine off front page, hiding neocons' horrific failure. May save Brandon 2024.
4)Disrupts China-Syria and Saudi-Iran agreements and cooperation.
Your articles are usually spot-on, this one exceptionally good because it's straight to the point - what does the world expect the Palestinians to do? For at least 40 years this has been a political issue, with solutions talked about, but never implemented. The U.S. clearly needs to cut funding to Israel until a viable solution has been reached. Israel has been so ghettoized with settlements that a 2-state solution doesn't seem possible.
Biden won't do this because he will lose votes which is why it's essential for all Dems to vote 3rd party!
Until money is out of the US Party system nothing will change.
Thank you for this reply.
I feel very strongly that Dems. (after looking at comments on WAPO) that NOTHING will happen and YOU will have 'warmonger' Biden leading the charge.
IF DEms had NOT been stupid when Bernie Sanders came onto the scene we would not be where we are now. He should have been President!
Bernie Sanders went down the Russiagate rabbit hole. He's one hundred percent behind Biden's proxy war with Russia. He's a complete f*cking sellout. I have no use for the man and I once supported him.
Agreed. Bernie Sanders is a traitor and sold out millions of people. Imagine being in a position in history twice to change things and you sell out both times. Never follow anyone of these old "reformers" who only want to repaint the same death machine. That's includes the disco preacher Cornel West. Same type of liar, no plan other name dropping people who actually did stuff in history and pretending he is one of them.
Damn straight.
He wasn't. Yes he joined the Dems and has in small increments been able to pull Dems a bit further to the left.
Biden wont lose votes. He will lose MONEY from political action committees. And that money will be deliberately sent over to an opponent targeted at upending him. By Israelis.
But we are asked to instead believe the fiction that it is Russia meddling in US politics.
The U$ofA has been captured by the Money Power. The Money Power allows patently absurd but allowable levels of 'debt' provided it behaves itself & gives huge amounts of [imaginary] money to entities it approves of while leaving the citizens of the US with the barrelling usury 'debt' for future generations to pay! https://www.worldometers.info/us-debt-clock/ Israel is a Rothschild Project. Don't expect any help whatsoever for the Palestinians from the U$ofA; they'll probably be next as useful idiots have a limited shelf life.
all the US politicians dont even run their own national policy on this matter.
On this matter, the US is rife with “foreign interference”….from Israel. AIPAC and all the rest. Israelis with US passports control all this.
And no the media wont say the truth on it either. Guess who controls that too?
This may be extremely far-fetched and unfeasible given the political landscape, but I hope that the Arab world unites against Israel on the side of Palestine. From Afghanistan to Egypt, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to rid the Middle East of Zionism and - more importantly - of a major source of US influence.
If the Anglo/US/Israeli Empire vanished, the world would thrive.
Right. "Welcome the new boss; same as the old boss" surely would not pertain.
It wouldn't. Not in a multipolar world.
If the principles of equality are implemented at an international scale, there will be no more hegemons.
Even if I'm wrong, there is quite literally no worse empire than that of the Anglos.
Right. Now where do I find the coliseum to watch the gladiators and crucifctions and stuff? I may need a pathway illuminated by burning people on poles.
Perhaps you have a point how much of the worlds military arsenal has recently been severely depleted
Why have they failed to do so until now?
Just a thought: is it possible Israel did know in advance about the potential attacks, decide to do nothing about it so Palestine would attack, and so Israel could wield an even bigger stick than normal? I find it very hard to believe the Israel/US/Western intel had no idea at all.
I’ve thought that. All of these “unprovoked” provocations look exactly like 9/11. The template is the same even if the actions taken are smaller. And no, no government cares if it’s citizens are killed if that killing will advance the government’s agenda.
Their must have been some hints of it, but the scale of the operation probably caught them by surprise. So the cycle of violence will continue. We got guys like the corrupt Netanyahu saying they will make Gaza into a rubble city - they've already cut off power to the 750K inhabitants. A lot of innocent human beings who had nothing to do with the Hamas attack will be slaughtered by Israel's inevitable, brutal reprisal i.e. mowing the lawn. Note: collective punishment *is* a war crime.
Except, of course, if it’s the US or a US-based country such as Israel.
A number of people in my US city in early 2022 who have no ties to Ukraine started proudly flying the Ukrainian flag and putting up signs - "Pray (prey in my mind) for Ukraine".
I suppose those flags will now be replaced by Israeli flags.
As soon as flags are delivered and the command given.
Its a little virtue club for them. None of those people will ever listen to any truth unless punched in the mouth first.
The answer to resolving Israel/Palestine conflict is easy but not easy to do. The entire conflict in BOTH sides is rooted in racism; Not the fake racism that the DNC uses as a political weapon, the real kind where Jews think they are ‘chosen’ by a imaginary god and are superior biologically and culturally to Palestinians AND Palestinians believe Jews are all evil and should be killed as their duty to Allah. Get rid of racists in leadership positions. Promote a generation of people that understand that we’re all one life force and all manifestations of ‘God’. Until this is admitted, there will be blood.
I fear that Iran is going to be used by the propaganda machine in the US more fully now and all the Biden wannabees will go along with it.
I've said before. The EU needs to get spine.
It's hard not to see eternal conflagrations as the world gets warmer.
So sad.
Europeans are the biggest wimps on the planet. They like being slaves.
You'd have better luck getting Kermit The Frog to take charge.
Feral. I agree to a certain point about Europe and I wish they would grow a spine to stop this US aggression. It's coming.
The amount of Americans leaving the US (Just in France) is 12,230 asking for residency cards.
This is just France.
Portugal is overwhelmed and it seems they are going to stop this.
We have refugees from all parts of the world.
Wait in line like other people!
What goes around comes around.
Don't kid yourself.
Right now the talk is of banning AfD on any pretext, in order to prevent politicians opposed to American hegemony to power from getting elected. Germany already has gutted freedom of speech and assembly in order to squelch dissent from the war in Ukraine. The German political class didn't raise so much as a peep.
For that matter, Stoltenberg has stated that Slovakia will not be allowed to change its policies with regard to Ukraine.
Hell, the United States committed an act of war by blowing up Nordstream, and the only European response was to pretend it didn't happen. When a European is pressed, forced to admit that the US did it, they just stare at their shoes and mumble something about how they deserve it.
You are one of these people who do not read comments properly.
Read again what I said then come back to me?
I read what you wrote. It's just wishful thinking.
Fearl...........why would one call themselves this name.?
It might be wishful thinking BUT I am here and you are there and I doubt you read the French press.
Hear, hear on the Israel comments. My mother was Jewish but I don’t think she’d support what’s going on against Palestinians. I certainly don’t support what should be my heritage.
So you're Jewish?
God, you are such a—I was going to say PIG, but pity the poor pig to be put in your same class. I guess the worst and most accuracy thing I can call you is a white man.
Mr. Troll strikes again!
I am 100% cat on both sides (I think, not sure who "dad" is), but I am proud to stand with you now.
It might be noted as well that Israel often oppresses and kills Palestinians for no reason other than as warning and discouragement - mowing the law, they call it. Or because Palestinian reaction then justifies serious counter-reaction, as is about to happen.
Those Israelis surely have a way with words.
"It would be easy for me to sit here in my armchair and say the Palestinians should either maintain the status quo or lie down, relinquish their homes and homeland and accept whatever table scraps they’re able to get, but we can see from the Palestinian perspective that that’s not reasonable."
Wasn't that the Jewish strategy during the Holocaust?.
How did that work out for them?
The "anti-semite" accusation loses a lot of its punch when upstanding anti-zionist Jews like Max Blumenthal and others are prominent and eloquent critics of Israel. What does it mean anyway? Palestinians are semites. Jews everywhere are very likely concerned, not only in human sympathy for the Gaza Palestinians who are about to be massacred, but how that reflects unjustly on Jews generally. As for Democrats - their callous support for the Ukraine proxy war against Russia is typical: they have launched far more wars than Republicans have, and are typically belligerent. As for LGBTQ and trans rights, these should not be politicized any more than brown eyes v blue, left v right- handedness, etc.
Perfect. But I fear clear reason is wasted on the ignorant.
This is one of rare cases I don't agree.
Gaza is no more an Israel-occupied territory since almost twenty years. Hamas has the control since 2007.
Who is Hamas? She is Netanyahu's best friend, and an Iran's proxy, for start.
Many people will die because of Hamas, Netanyahu and Iran.
This is no more a Palestianian case.
Hamas does not represent the oppressed. They never did.
Mauro Vaiani: Years ago my wife and I catered an event at a Jewish Synagogue/community center. We served Hummus. All the old Jewish women would come to the buffet and ask, "What is in the Hummus?"
"Garbanzo beans."
"No thank you." They would all say.
Technicalities technicalities…occupation takes many forms. You don’t need to be in a land to be occupying it. Some would maintain that simply by being on some random
Land because agents of history miraculously willed it to be so (with a Little terrorism on the part of the original Zionists. . Many people
Will die not because of Hamas ( though they would have assumed that) but because Israel has chosen to do what it always does, fight fire with a much larger fire
All true.
Israel never belonged in Palestine, 1948 Nakba. Both Jonathan Cook and Chris Hedges offer excellent articles on the subject. Any good human being must feel that the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves from Israel’s terrorist and illegal occupation.☮️⚖️🇵🇸