Remember Aaron Bushnell. Remember the USS Liberty. These are the events to recall as our basis for further judgment of the Ziofilth — and to hell with all other a-holes and their Oct. 7 lies.
thank you for these reminders, mr lopresti. We shouldn't forget mr bushnell's sacrifice or the sailors slain aboard the liberty, nor any of the innocent who have been slain or had their lives destroyed in this genocidal occupation
There has been evidence ever since Zionists stole Palestine and started killing people that something like October 7th might happen. People just did not want to see it and antisemitism was already being used in an attempt to shut people up. It is a horrible indictment of humanity to watch what Israelis are capable of.
I've been waiting for fifty years for something to happen because for 80 years israel has been allowed to make life hell for Palestinians, especially in Gaza. No people anywhere will continue to live under an occupation that controls their every movement, controls how much food enters the enclave, who can, and does, control electricity to the enclave and it's water and oil, controls medicine entry for decades, controls even the internet and not expect an out break to get the world to take notice.
On that first day of the resistance break out if Gaza, I could not believe a word of what israeli, lying media said. It did not make sense. This was a fast job to break through the fence, grab some hostages, do some damage and back into Gaza. But the lies about beheaded babies put into microwaves, the rapes and other rubbish, is all the things israelis would do if the boot was on the other foot, because that us what they did on their first day in Palestine, which there are videos of them laughing about what they did to a pregnant woman - gang raped her the killed her and cut her baby from the womb and left it on the ground to die. That was just the start of one of the horrors they visited on Palestinians in 1948, though they had been having fun before that.
Just remember the resistance did not have have helicopters to fire indiscriminately through walls, they did not expect to live long once out of their prison. It was a set up by israel to let them break through and use it in their propaganda, and the western media fell for it, and kept repeating it.
“One of the things that I learned in the war is that we’re not the top species on the planet because we’re nice. We are a very aggressive species; it is in us. People talk a lot about how well the military turns kids into killing machines, and I’ll always argue that it’s just finishing school. What we do with civilization is that we learn to inhibit and rope in these aggressive tendencies, and we have to recognize them. I worry about a whole country that doesn’t recognize them, because think of how many times we get ourselves into scrapes as a nation because we’re always the ‘good guys’. Sometimes, I think if we thought we weren’t always the good guys, we might actually get into less wars.”– Karl Marlantes
I could not agree more. Humans at their (our) core are a tribalistic, war-like, short-sighted, exploitive, sadistic race of large apes. The sooner we disappear from the landscape, the better off the planet will be. (Edited to add "exploitive" to the mix.)
Yikes! The negativity!. I think there are far more humanitarians than not worldwide. Social media has succeeded in elevating the voices of the worst of us. Don’t let it fool you!
Everything you wrote resonates, except that we need to disappear. We can do better, and understanding why we are so stupid is a good start.
The little blue dot on which we are all living can tolerate our presence, so long as we can tolerate each other. Maybe looking in our mirrors can show where we can start making changes.
I don’t think any other living thing can love as
Much as we can, so that’s worth a try in saving our hides. If we can’t change, then we will be changed by nature itself.
A multitude of of other mammalian, as well as avian, species have a capacity for love equaling or surpassing our own. You sound young and optimistic, if not the first, then definitely the second, but personally I'm fed up with our species (not withstanding the fact that I am one). You're not wrong that nature will step in, and nature's plan will not be pretty.
“You sound young and optimistic”… I’m actually old and pessimistic.. but since I’ve been witness and experienced the kind of love that is worth living for, I’m not on the extinction bandwagon just yet.
With 12,000 or more nuclear weapons just waiting to demonstrate just how stupid we can be, it’s pretty easy to thing we’re pretty much done as a species. But do the other species we will destroy along with our own don’t at least deserve that we try to get our act together before we destroy them too?
How about thus for one starter… no evictions allowed… that should stir the economic pot a little..
"One step further steps away from individuals & individual species, Marci, and looks at the Whole. The entire system IS love, sharing resources as needed for survival of all (ignoring interventions by idiot humans whose logic is not of the whole, but rather of the individual). In human terms, "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude, etc." But in Nature, in the Biosphere, love communicates reciprocally, shares resources, puts the survival of the many before that of the few or the one. This may not seem like love in human terms, but I say, as a biologist devoted to the Biosphere as greatest intelligence: tough shit, humans. Hence I somewhat disagree that "nature's plan will not be pretty". It will be collectivist love; again, tough shit, humans, if it doesn't conform to your Hollywood -- or your religiously-based fantasies.
In the 2010's I was fed up with our species as well.
What gave me optimism was actually doing an Antiracism deep-dive starting in 2020, and recognizing that the Worldviews I grew up with were NOT universal of humanity, but more specific to specific branches of humanity.
This is not a "human nature" problem, but a Worldviews problem.
Much of what I grew up being told was "human nature" turned out to in fact be what I now recognize as Eurocentrism (and other words I'll avoid using as they scare people off).
I can share more, but wanted to dive into this conversation as I remember feeling as pessimistic as I'm seeing in this thread.
Earlier you said, "Humans at their (our) core are a tribalistic, war-like, short-sighted, exploitive, sadistic race of large apes."
Even the word "tribal" has been flipped -- tribal peoples globally tend (nothing is "universal") to use relational sovereignty which is extremely different than the exclusivity of Westphalian sovereignty that grew out of Western Europe.
While all of those problems can be applied to the worldviews that grew from the unique history of Western Europe and a few other places, that is not "universal" or "human nature". It is social programming!
And please ask yourself where this came from: "Give them de facto unlimited rights and zero responsibilities."
All my research pointed to some of the most popular branches of Protestant Christianity, and governments (like Canada and the USA) that claim to be "secular" when they merely rebranded protestantism to "secular" where "God" isn't as actively mentioned.
When you get past colonial government narratives and conspiracy theories about allegedly "foreign" interference, this is where the source of the problem is (and has been since the 1600's).
Who benefits from us hating "others", who gets to have mansions most of us will never have and feel lucky to have a roof over our heads? The weapons manufacturers. The more hate, the more fighting, the more wars the more profit fir them. Now they are making possible wars at distance - remote killing! Who knows what they'll think of next, but you can bet it won't good for some small country, but profitable for the war machinery bosses.
Bill 6644 in the US congress is passing the very legislation I proposed in my reply to your post.. it limits residential ownership to 350 residences for corporations. I would suggest cutting it down to 3…
Maximum number of residences ( mansions included) anyone can own, including corporations, is 3.
If the 99% of humanity opted for that condition, ……. The social changes that would prevail would be as radical as it can get…..BlackRock would have to sell hundreds of thousands of residences… which would then bring the prices down enough so that anyone could buy a home…
The only ones who could prevent such a social directive are the 99%.
you, specifically, can't, of course. i'd say the particular system (and people and institutions?) doling out rights and responsibilities is obviously defunct.
"And we know there is no evil these freaks are not capable of."
Scheerpost 6/27/26-- Obliterating Gaza’s Children: The Damning UN Report
"Such conditions affect not only present survival but the health of future generations through malnutrition, impaired fetal development, and maternal health crises."
"The result is not merely a humanitarian emergency. It is the systematic destruction of human development on a societal scale."
The ZOF murdered 2,400 Palestinian civilians in 51 days of slaughter during the summer of 2014 (twice as many as were killed on Oct 7th, when hundreds of those killed were ZOF, and hundreds were killed by the ZOF themselves when they employed their Hannibal Directive), but we're supposed to accept that History began when the Hamas resistance conducted a retaliatory raid on October 7th, 2023.
That number, BTW, is an undercount, in that it only lists persons who can be identified and whose death was medically confirmed to be the direct result of Israeli attacks.
The undercount wasn't dishonest, but was made to head off Israeli accusations that it was speculative.
Caitlin, you remind me of points that I feel are self evident....yet I've friends & colleagues who look at this and just do not give a fuck, that is frigging depressing. And, that is what i struggle with, the fact that people i know to have good hearts just refuse to countenance the fact that just maybe they have been lied to.
"Once you start down that road, you have to start making choices. If the society and system that we live under does so much evil, how much will I compromise with it?
These choices can have very real personal and professional consequences. Try not paying taxes and see what happens. "Bartelby the Scrivener" it ain't.
Even if you do compromise, you are left with a guilty conscience.
By contrast, if you go along with the crowd, you can avoid those tough choices and face no consequences, and your conscience stays relatively untroubled, for the time being at least. Even in the worst case, you can say to yourself that you did what every other Good German did under the circumstances."
We already know that the IDF was warned about the impending attack and chose to ignore those warnings. This is not a conspiracy theory, but a known FACT.
FACT: Field observers literally witnessed Hamas practicing the attack and sent that information to their commanders, who ignored those warnings because they came from low-ranking soldiers, mostly women.
FACT: The Jericho Wall Document, a 40 page battle plan showing the exact means and methods of attack were found a YEAR ahead of October 7th and those plans were dismissed as being too "aspirational".
FACT: The night before the attacks intelligence officials identified five distinct warning signs including the activation of multiple SIM cards, but concluded they were likely part of a drill.
Taken together the picture either becomes one of gross incompetence, or part of a larger strategic plan to wipe out the Palestinian population in Gaza and take it over.
I’d accuse the IOF and Israeli government of just about every evil you can think of, but I would not accuse them of incompetence. They knew what was coming, they set it up, and they made sure it would horrendous enough to support the final step in their genocide if Palestinians.
well said mr stockton, i can't imagine they did not have any prior warning or knowledge of something like this transpiring. The slaughter and carnage that have been unleashed are unconscionable beyond words
What Israel and the mainstream media is trying to feed us is such an insult to our intelligence. I mean, how much do we have to dumb ourselves down to believe their BS? They lost me at being anti-genocide makes us antisemitic. Hello -- we're supposed to believe this?
it is never mentioned who got killed in al aqsa flood. there were several hundred police and soldiers, they are enemy combatants and legal targets. the zionist regime has mandatory conscription starting at 18. thus anyone there over 18 was military and a legal target. service in the reserves is mandatory up to 41 for conscripts and 45 for officers. thus they are also enemy combatants and legal targets. this leaves very few "civilians" to be counted as killed in al aqsa flood.
October 7 was a massive setup by Israel to serve as a pretext for the erasure of the memory and the annihilation of the Palestinians.
A thorough investigation is needed into how Israel facilitated Operation Al-Aqsa Flood...
After all, Israel is one of the most heavily monitored countries in the world and possesses one of the most sophisticated intelligence services on the planet.
Israel will never negotiate to release Palestinians from their prisons unless there are Israeli hostages. So on October 7th Hamas was going after as many hostages as they could grab to use as bargaining chips. All those cars we initially saw incinerated, the houses blown up — Hamas had no weapons to inflict this damage. Before Israel got full control of the narrative, it was reported IDF helicopters were firing hellfire missiles and there were tanks on the ground. One baby was shot through a closed door but none were beheaded, as they later admitted.
But we’ll never see those pictures again and an investigation will never happen either.
True, no internal investigation will ever happen. But much has, and will be, revealed by the best independent journalists ( The Gray Zone, Electronic Intifada...)
....oh, yah...the day israyhell attacked its own citizens to justify their GENOCIDE of as much of the Middle East as they can "get away with"....I will NEVER forget that day, all right....terrorizing your own tribe for PROFIT. Sick fucks.
Right Whatis...! And because they're allegedly god's chosen sick fucks, they feel more than entitled to be sicker and fuck'der with every day that passes.
Remember Aaron Bushnell. Remember the USS Liberty. These are the events to recall as our basis for further judgment of the Ziofilth — and to hell with all other a-holes and their Oct. 7 lies.
RIP Hind Rajab
Rachel Corey
Absolutely. Shame on me for omitting her. Remember Rachel always.
zero shame. too long a list of others to feel any shame.
thank you for these reminders, mr lopresti. We shouldn't forget mr bushnell's sacrifice or the sailors slain aboard the liberty, nor any of the innocent who have been slain or had their lives destroyed in this genocidal occupation
There has been evidence ever since Zionists stole Palestine and started killing people that something like October 7th might happen. People just did not want to see it and antisemitism was already being used in an attempt to shut people up. It is a horrible indictment of humanity to watch what Israelis are capable of.
Your last sentence says it all.
I've been waiting for fifty years for something to happen because for 80 years israel has been allowed to make life hell for Palestinians, especially in Gaza. No people anywhere will continue to live under an occupation that controls their every movement, controls how much food enters the enclave, who can, and does, control electricity to the enclave and it's water and oil, controls medicine entry for decades, controls even the internet and not expect an out break to get the world to take notice.
On that first day of the resistance break out if Gaza, I could not believe a word of what israeli, lying media said. It did not make sense. This was a fast job to break through the fence, grab some hostages, do some damage and back into Gaza. But the lies about beheaded babies put into microwaves, the rapes and other rubbish, is all the things israelis would do if the boot was on the other foot, because that us what they did on their first day in Palestine, which there are videos of them laughing about what they did to a pregnant woman - gang raped her the killed her and cut her baby from the womb and left it on the ground to die. That was just the start of one of the horrors they visited on Palestinians in 1948, though they had been having fun before that.
Just remember the resistance did not have have helicopters to fire indiscriminately through walls, they did not expect to live long once out of their prison. It was a set up by israel to let them break through and use it in their propaganda, and the western media fell for it, and kept repeating it.
And Israel has more plans to grab more land with the help this time of the Albanian Prime Minister. https://patrickhenningsen.substack.com/p/kushner-inc-whats-really-happening
Like blaming Nat Turner.
They lernt from their masters, Nazi,s
I can make any group of humans act like Israeli "freaks". Give them de facto unlimited rights and zero responsibilities.
Which shows that they are not "freaks" at all. Rather, they are all too human.
Well yes this is true and weapons!
It seems there are not a lot of moral people in the west.
“One of the things that I learned in the war is that we’re not the top species on the planet because we’re nice. We are a very aggressive species; it is in us. People talk a lot about how well the military turns kids into killing machines, and I’ll always argue that it’s just finishing school. What we do with civilization is that we learn to inhibit and rope in these aggressive tendencies, and we have to recognize them. I worry about a whole country that doesn’t recognize them, because think of how many times we get ourselves into scrapes as a nation because we’re always the ‘good guys’. Sometimes, I think if we thought we weren’t always the good guys, we might actually get into less wars.”– Karl Marlantes
I could not agree more. Humans at their (our) core are a tribalistic, war-like, short-sighted, exploitive, sadistic race of large apes. The sooner we disappear from the landscape, the better off the planet will be. (Edited to add "exploitive" to the mix.)
Yikes! The negativity!. I think there are far more humanitarians than not worldwide. Social media has succeeded in elevating the voices of the worst of us. Don’t let it fool you!
Marci,
Everything you wrote resonates, except that we need to disappear. We can do better, and understanding why we are so stupid is a good start.
The little blue dot on which we are all living can tolerate our presence, so long as we can tolerate each other. Maybe looking in our mirrors can show where we can start making changes.
I don’t think any other living thing can love as
Much as we can, so that’s worth a try in saving our hides. If we can’t change, then we will be changed by nature itself.
A multitude of of other mammalian, as well as avian, species have a capacity for love equaling or surpassing our own. You sound young and optimistic, if not the first, then definitely the second, but personally I'm fed up with our species (not withstanding the fact that I am one). You're not wrong that nature will step in, and nature's plan will not be pretty.
“You sound young and optimistic”… I’m actually old and pessimistic.. but since I’ve been witness and experienced the kind of love that is worth living for, I’m not on the extinction bandwagon just yet.
With 12,000 or more nuclear weapons just waiting to demonstrate just how stupid we can be, it’s pretty easy to thing we’re pretty much done as a species. But do the other species we will destroy along with our own don’t at least deserve that we try to get our act together before we destroy them too?
How about thus for one starter… no evictions allowed… that should stir the economic pot a little..
"One step further steps away from individuals & individual species, Marci, and looks at the Whole. The entire system IS love, sharing resources as needed for survival of all (ignoring interventions by idiot humans whose logic is not of the whole, but rather of the individual). In human terms, "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude, etc." But in Nature, in the Biosphere, love communicates reciprocally, shares resources, puts the survival of the many before that of the few or the one. This may not seem like love in human terms, but I say, as a biologist devoted to the Biosphere as greatest intelligence: tough shit, humans. Hence I somewhat disagree that "nature's plan will not be pretty". It will be collectivist love; again, tough shit, humans, if it doesn't conform to your Hollywood -- or your religiously-based fantasies.
Is nature anti semantic?
In the 2010's I was fed up with our species as well.
What gave me optimism was actually doing an Antiracism deep-dive starting in 2020, and recognizing that the Worldviews I grew up with were NOT universal of humanity, but more specific to specific branches of humanity.
This is not a "human nature" problem, but a Worldviews problem.
Much of what I grew up being told was "human nature" turned out to in fact be what I now recognize as Eurocentrism (and other words I'll avoid using as they scare people off).
https://r.flora.ca/t/anti-racism
I can share more, but wanted to dive into this conversation as I remember feeling as pessimistic as I'm seeing in this thread.
Earlier you said, "Humans at their (our) core are a tribalistic, war-like, short-sighted, exploitive, sadistic race of large apes."
Even the word "tribal" has been flipped -- tribal peoples globally tend (nothing is "universal") to use relational sovereignty which is extremely different than the exclusivity of Westphalian sovereignty that grew out of Western Europe.
While all of those problems can be applied to the worldviews that grew from the unique history of Western Europe and a few other places, that is not "universal" or "human nature". It is social programming!
And please ask yourself where this came from: "Give them de facto unlimited rights and zero responsibilities."
All my research pointed to some of the most popular branches of Protestant Christianity, and governments (like Canada and the USA) that claim to be "secular" when they merely rebranded protestantism to "secular" where "God" isn't as actively mentioned.
When you get past colonial government narratives and conspiracy theories about allegedly "foreign" interference, this is where the source of the problem is (and has been since the 1600's).
Who benefits from us hating "others", who gets to have mansions most of us will never have and feel lucky to have a roof over our heads? The weapons manufacturers. The more hate, the more fighting, the more wars the more profit fir them. Now they are making possible wars at distance - remote killing! Who knows what they'll think of next, but you can bet it won't good for some small country, but profitable for the war machinery bosses.
Davina,
Bill 6644 in the US congress is passing the very legislation I proposed in my reply to your post.. it limits residential ownership to 350 residences for corporations. I would suggest cutting it down to 3…
Suggestion….
Maximum number of residences ( mansions included) anyone can own, including corporations, is 3.
If the 99% of humanity opted for that condition, ……. The social changes that would prevail would be as radical as it can get…..BlackRock would have to sell hundreds of thousands of residences… which would then bring the prices down enough so that anyone could buy a home…
The only ones who could prevent such a social directive are the 99%.
you, specifically, can't, of course. i'd say the particular system (and people and institutions?) doling out rights and responsibilities is obviously defunct.
"And we know there is no evil these freaks are not capable of."
Scheerpost 6/27/26-- Obliterating Gaza’s Children: The Damning UN Report
"Such conditions affect not only present survival but the health of future generations through malnutrition, impaired fetal development, and maternal health crises."
"The result is not merely a humanitarian emergency. It is the systematic destruction of human development on a societal scale."
https://scheerpost.com/2026/06/27/obliterating-gazas-children-the-damning-un-report/
Bingo… bingo! And then some.
The ZOF murdered 2,400 Palestinian civilians in 51 days of slaughter during the summer of 2014 (twice as many as were killed on Oct 7th, when hundreds of those killed were ZOF, and hundreds were killed by the ZOF themselves when they employed their Hannibal Directive), but we're supposed to accept that History began when the Hamas resistance conducted a retaliatory raid on October 7th, 2023.
That number, BTW, is an undercount, in that it only lists persons who can be identified and whose death was medically confirmed to be the direct result of Israeli attacks.
The undercount wasn't dishonest, but was made to head off Israeli accusations that it was speculative.
great point, it's important history and context to bring up from 2014 that is all too often ignored by some when having this discussion.
‘In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.’
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Caitlin, you remind me of points that I feel are self evident....yet I've friends & colleagues who look at this and just do not give a fuck, that is frigging depressing. And, that is what i struggle with, the fact that people i know to have good hearts just refuse to countenance the fact that just maybe they have been lied to.
Forgive, please, the copypasta:
"Once you start down that road, you have to start making choices. If the society and system that we live under does so much evil, how much will I compromise with it?
These choices can have very real personal and professional consequences. Try not paying taxes and see what happens. "Bartelby the Scrivener" it ain't.
Even if you do compromise, you are left with a guilty conscience.
By contrast, if you go along with the crowd, you can avoid those tough choices and face no consequences, and your conscience stays relatively untroubled, for the time being at least. Even in the worst case, you can say to yourself that you did what every other Good German did under the circumstances."
We already know that the IDF was warned about the impending attack and chose to ignore those warnings. This is not a conspiracy theory, but a known FACT.
FACT: Field observers literally witnessed Hamas practicing the attack and sent that information to their commanders, who ignored those warnings because they came from low-ranking soldiers, mostly women.
FACT: The Jericho Wall Document, a 40 page battle plan showing the exact means and methods of attack were found a YEAR ahead of October 7th and those plans were dismissed as being too "aspirational".
FACT: The night before the attacks intelligence officials identified five distinct warning signs including the activation of multiple SIM cards, but concluded they were likely part of a drill.
Taken together the picture either becomes one of gross incompetence, or part of a larger strategic plan to wipe out the Palestinian population in Gaza and take it over.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-identified-but-ignored-5-warning-signs-of-hamas-attack-on-eve-of-oct-7-its-probe-shows/
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-885800
I’d accuse the IOF and Israeli government of just about every evil you can think of, but I would not accuse them of incompetence. They knew what was coming, they set it up, and they made sure it would horrendous enough to support the final step in their genocide if Palestinians.
well said mr stockton, i can't imagine they did not have any prior warning or knowledge of something like this transpiring. The slaughter and carnage that have been unleashed are unconscionable beyond words
Both, so-said incompetence of the people and their warning signs and a strategy by the leaders. Netanyahu needed it to destroy Palestine.
Excellent. Thanks for info...👍👏
What Israel and the mainstream media is trying to feed us is such an insult to our intelligence. I mean, how much do we have to dumb ourselves down to believe their BS? They lost me at being anti-genocide makes us antisemitic. Hello -- we're supposed to believe this?
it is never mentioned who got killed in al aqsa flood. there were several hundred police and soldiers, they are enemy combatants and legal targets. the zionist regime has mandatory conscription starting at 18. thus anyone there over 18 was military and a legal target. service in the reserves is mandatory up to 41 for conscripts and 45 for officers. thus they are also enemy combatants and legal targets. this leaves very few "civilians" to be counted as killed in al aqsa flood.
October 7 was a massive setup by Israel to serve as a pretext for the erasure of the memory and the annihilation of the Palestinians.
A thorough investigation is needed into how Israel facilitated Operation Al-Aqsa Flood...
After all, Israel is one of the most heavily monitored countries in the world and possesses one of the most sophisticated intelligence services on the planet.
Oct 7 was an inside job (video)........
https://old.bitchute.com/video/tEpZTbkXZZAB/
Israel will never negotiate to release Palestinians from their prisons unless there are Israeli hostages. So on October 7th Hamas was going after as many hostages as they could grab to use as bargaining chips. All those cars we initially saw incinerated, the houses blown up — Hamas had no weapons to inflict this damage. Before Israel got full control of the narrative, it was reported IDF helicopters were firing hellfire missiles and there were tanks on the ground. One baby was shot through a closed door but none were beheaded, as they later admitted.
But we’ll never see those pictures again and an investigation will never happen either.
True, no internal investigation will ever happen. But much has, and will be, revealed by the best independent journalists ( The Gray Zone, Electronic Intifada...)
....oh, yah...the day israyhell attacked its own citizens to justify their GENOCIDE of as much of the Middle East as they can "get away with"....I will NEVER forget that day, all right....terrorizing your own tribe for PROFIT. Sick fucks.
Right Whatis...! And because they're allegedly god's chosen sick fucks, they feel more than entitled to be sicker and fuck'der with every day that passes.
Israel is a Terrorist State. Cancel it.
Flashback to the "Wag the Dog" October 7 pantomime, a body language expert examines Netanyahu's announcement of invasion:
https://old.bitchute.com/video/eAN12noFlId0 [7mins]
Verdict: he knew it was coming and his lying pants were on fire.
The Israeli people are being held hostage by these madmen who will happily sacrifice them to create contrived excuses to commit genocide on others.