Foresight? US empire on Israel's leash? Nope, don't think so: that duo barely has hindsight. Kill kill kill, blunder forward inured to consequences. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ever since I reached the age of real reason (Vietnam), that has seemed to be the strategy. Pretty goddamned sick and tired of it Israel-US --- I no longer differentiate between the two conjoined entities.
Wise not to try to differentiate since zionists control both.In Israel from the open postion of government; In the US from the Lobby and in Deep government of CIA etc.
Zionists are the ones running the show. They have Jewish, Christian, and secular supporters. It would be a huge mistake to be giving any of them a pass. That would be like focusing on only a small subset of your opponents. Who benefits from your doing that? Who benefits from not seeing a complete picture?
A complete picture necessitates the inclusion and endless berating (defecating upon) the whores in the media and US political class who lap-up Zionist blood-money to propagate the flat-out lies seeded by Israel and echoed by US state dept (Blinken, talk about a whore), then picked up by these quintessential mediocrities in $5000 suits and trumpeted to the half-braindeads over the cable "news" airways. Max Blumenthal is all over these people in his documentary "Atrocity Inc." I enjoy it when he calls them "marionettes"; so appropriate. Anyone needing to inflame their senses of sheer corrupt mendacious injustice should watch it on the Grayzone.
I agree with you, Vin. And that's a pity. Others would feel the same.
But it is a small minority overall who are in there pitching for Israel, plus media, plus Presidential misfits and candidates, corrupted pubic servants, fully paid for politicians, investment profiteers like BlackRock, all within enough corrupted Jewish money in their coffers to influence decisions. That's the name of the game.
That is why we are where we are, today but that is nowhere near 330 million people, not even close.
If we have to wait for a gradual change back to occur through the laboured realisation of what genocidal Israel and arrogant Jewish thinking really means , Israel to just vanish bit by bit, it could take 20 years for decent American people to be in a position to remove every Israeli from the land.
For a dramatic change to occur, for America to become America once again and break from being an Israel tame puppet in double quick time, It needs to be a real threat to mainland USA. Just one. Only one perhaps. A country that does not care like North Korea, the target, New York where the impact will be substantial. A sharp realisation then that real change is necessary .....IMMEDIATELY.
So where to from here.? Election date 5 November. How do you turn it around?
Likewise, I was at university facing the draft lottery upon graduation, having already witnessed the return of friends either in body bags or in hospitals sick with lymphoma from agent orange exposure. Good ol' USA ended or ruined countless lives, as you say for nothing in reality, For the perpetuation of delusional exceptionalist empire in the minds of our corrupt rulers, bought and paid for.
It's odd how the mainstream media never talks about how the Israelis use Palesinian prisoners as "human shields" or how they send them ahead to be sure there will be no explosives for the IDF soldiers to detonate. The Empire invaded Iraq because it had oil. Everything the US empire supports is to enrich itself. Maybe some of its lackeys are also enriched on the side too. The Empire threatens anyone who opposes them. Labels them as terrorists. Tortures them. Imprisons them. Threatens nuclear retaliation. The US Empire has completely lost it's ability (if it ever had it) to be rational and we will all suffer one way or another through the wars they foment and the environmental destruction they allow.
The NYT had an article this week, October 14, 2024, on just that issue. The headline: “How Israel’s Army Uses Palestinians as Human Shields in Gaza.”
Just below: “Israeli soldiers and Palestinian former detainees say troops have regularly forced captured Gazans to carry out life-threatening tasks, including inside Hamas tunnels.”
Every once in a while, the NYT does a good job. You can count on the fingers of one hand just how often.
1. it's late (not news), the relevant outlets were reporting this a few months ago.
2. probably buried somewhat deeper under other actual 'news' (that is, things happening now) and never at a time when israel is invoking the 'human shields' trope (when it would actually counter israeli propaganda).
3. this will be used in the future as an alibi that they reported on all views and perspectives.
4. nyt is a malignant news outlet. these articles show that they actually know better and are intelligent enough to understand what they're doing the rest of the time. very bad newspaper, very bad people.
Well said Martin! You dissected the shadow narratives that NYT (and other such MSM outlets) use to maintain a facade of legitimacy. They are Empire propaganda outfits in EVERY WAY!
"The Empire invaded Iraq because it had oil." I don't agree. The Empire invaded Iraq because it was the most fervent Palestine supporter among the Arab world...it was invaded at Zionism's behest!
Apologists for the Kiev regime claimed for years that the people of Donetsk were, for no discernable reason shelling themselves (not only that, but to listen to the apologists, they also had artillery shells that can turn 180° midflight!) and also that they were trapped by evil Russians and were at the same time somehow deserving of punishment.
The Russians were baffled and dismayed by the practice. Of course, it was a well-known Israeli trick itself borrowed from tried and true British cunning and rascality (see Skripals, Berezovsky, Litvinenko, MH17, etc).
maybe i'm somewhere biased, but to me the hostility towards russia in those things, the artificial resuscitation of the cold war 'enemy' and the total absence of a western counter narrative seemed so obvious, that it was hard to see it as a 'trick'. to me it looked pretty much 'in your face' what they were doing.
you yourself stated the other day you're in the minority. those tricks are designed for the deciding majority and applied over and over because they work. easy to verify - just talk to the regular folks around you.
the tricksters don't care about those few that see through them.
“Oh how heartbreaking and tragic, this is all very complicated.”
The most heartbreaking and tragic thing is very simple actually: Anyone who enjoys burning people alive and shooting children in the head is a psychopath. Anyone who continues to support anyone in a leadership position that funds these horrendous acts is a sociopath. It's not complicated at all.
The United States, beginning with the landing of the Pilgrims, and Israel, beginning with the landing of the Zionists, follow identical patterns of history. Both obtained assistance from the indigenous people and then obliterated them. Continuous wars, always in defense, never compromising, always killing mercilessly, and each convinced of their exceptionalism categorize the Israelis and Americans ─ partners in crime against humanity, willing accomplices to genocide.
Let’s not forget that Zionism began in the 15th century with early Christian Protestants in England, among whom were The Puritans.
It does add a further dimension to our analysis of this issue to realize the origins of Zionism pre-date political Zionism by some 400 years, and came out of a Messianic, religious tradition that exists to this day, and whose aim is total annihilation.
Trying to understand this as being a fully rational project will always leave out this aspect, and will continue to not be able to get a complete understanding of what we are seeing.
I’ve tried to condense it to a convergence of three main elements, Power, Profits, and Prophets. They each have different goals that are currently united, but there are deep contradictions. It might be of benefit to assess how these contradictions can be increased.
Unfortunately, decades of fluoride, vaccine adjuvants, and psychiatric drugs, among other agents, have destroyed the average American’s (especially those who live in blue cities and college towns) ability to comprehend the spiritual. Notice their total hostility to the very idea. So they simply cannot see the red-eyed beast that feeds them, strokes their vacuous heads, and ushers them toward annihilation. They will compile data and hold conferences all the way to the end, vainly searching reason for the answer to social and spiritual psychosis.
The Pilgrims bought their land from the Natives, but the Natives expected to continue to use the land's resources. The colonists built fences where no fences had ever been before, closing off their property to make the land their own. Tensions had long existed due to the two cultures different ways of life.
The Puritans arrival in America, which eventually became the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and their fatal encounter with the native population, set the stage for the settlement of the entire coast to coast territory. Insecurity and mistrust guided the relations between what became a nation of Americans and the indigenous populations. Superiority of U.S. military forces enabled American pioneers to move inexorably from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans. Wherever the Americans arrived they found native peoples. Wherever they settled, the native peoples, even those who cooperated, like Chief Joseph and his Nez Perce tribe, were decimated.
The Zionist Jewish narrative closely follows the Separatist Puritan narrative. The early years of the development of the nation of Israel parallels the Puritan experience in America. Let us hope the trajectory will be detoured and the Israelis do not prove to be the New Puritans.
The Pilgrims bought their land from the Natives, but the Natives expected to continue to use the land's resources. The colonists built fences where no fences had ever been before, closing off their property to make the land their own. Tensions had long existed due to the two cultures different ways of life.
The Puritans arrival in America, which eventually became the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and their fatal encounter with the native population, set the stage for the settlement of the entire coast to coast territory. Insecurity and mistrust guided the relations between what became a nation of Americans and the indigenous populations. Superiority of U.S. military forces enabled American pioneers to move inexorably from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans. Wherever the Americans arrived they found native peoples. Wherever they settled, the native peoples, even those who cooperated, like Chief Joseph and his Nez Perce tribe, were decimated.
The Zionist Jewish narrative closely follows the Separatist Puritan narrative. The early years of the development of the nation of Israel parallels the Puritan experience in America. Let us hope the trajectory will be detoured and the Israelis do not prove to be the New Puritans.
I just saw a comment by an Israeli, commenting on a post by a Palestinian who said Israel killed another of his family member, now over 50 of them murdered in Gaza, saying "blame Hamas"
As if the IOF is run by Hamas. It's sickening and insane.
There are a thousand things I could say in response, but I'm tired and can't afford to waste any more energy...I wish there was some magic words or line of reasoning to break the Zionist spell..
This genocide is so obscene and traumatic. Im oscillating between shock, grief and rage all day. I feel so bad for Palestine and the resistance in west Asia, embarrassed that my complicit nation is covering itself in shame. I hope the younger children of Blinken, Starmer, White House spokespeople et al. learn and become ashamed of their disgraceful parents.
Not the way it works. Chris Hedges has some writings on the pathology of the rich and powerful. They pass it down. Blinken himself is a nepo-baby and 2nd gen Zionist pretending to serve US govt.
Cognitve dissonance doesn't always get resolved. What often happens over long periods of time is that people adapt their defense mechanisms and learn to live with cognitive dissonance.
If "having cognitive dissonance" solved problems, humanity would have had a different history that the reality we face currently.
These Israelis, erstwhile refugees from Hitler's Germany/Stalinist Russia, are White Europeans.
Converts to Judaism.
They are not Mizrahi, indigenous Middle East Jews.
They have no ancestral claim to any Palestinian land.
And even if they did, and after 2000 years, they just can't walk up to someone's property, kick them out,
or kill them,
on the basis that, they assert, their ancestors once lived in that area.
If these Israelis were civilized people, they would have bought the available land, and accept the fact that they would likely never be able to honestly acquire the 6K contiguous square miles to reestablish their legendary territory.
The Arabs have, for 76 years since the Nakba, behaved with admirable restraint.
They are a whole lot nicer than the Afghanis, who have defeated not one but two fully mechanized armies, with little more than small arms, IEDS, and Persistence.
The Palestinians, even now, are still trying to negotiate with the Zionist Israelis, to no avail.
As the Israelis hunt down and kill the Palestinian negotiators.
And bomb more Palestinian homes, hospitals, schools, refugee camps.
Using American munitions.
The Israelis are clearly the agressors, and they always have been.
Ever since they brought themselves to Palestine after WW2.
These Zionist Israelis are vicious depraved savages.
Carpet bombing Gaza to bits, and most recently, dropping incendiaries on a tent hospital, set up outside a hospital that they recently destroyed.
Burning many patients alive.
The Israelis forfeit their victim status when they became victimizers.
And that was a long time ago.
Joe Biden. Kamala Harris.
Don't talk about Freedom and Constitution and Human Rights.
If I leave the UK for more than 3 years and then return, I can’t claim any benefits or get a mortgage for another 3 years. Three years! But somehow 3000 is ‘birthright’??
I liked everything you said until you mentioned Biden/Harris. They are Zionists themselves and before them and after them would be more Zionists crawling everywhere. This is not to say that America was nice until this genocide - far from it.
I just heard a rant from Yuri Geller,and he was incandescent with anger,he was stupidly and obscenely angry that Biden and Harris were claiming all the glory. My friend Bibi did it all he shouted. Bibi is a Killer,a supreme killer ,the emperor of murder and those two Americans are claiming all the glory.Its wrong threatened the Spoon Bender.
Just insane, that pert near no one seems to agree that bombing unarmed civilians is wrong.
The Palestinians are the indigenous population, the Israelis are erstwhile refugees installed there after WW2.
Who immediately went to war with the original inhabitants, to remove them all, by force, from territory that they have inhabited for thousands of years.
MILLIONS of people.
And the United States government supports this genocide.
Same thing they did to the indigenous US population.
Except the arrogant rich people, and Their flunkies.
TPTB are regularly attempting to hatch plots to rob, cull, and enslave us lowly plebians.
Plots foiled in just the nick of time.
Repeatedly.
Observe the COVID Plandemic:
If not for the Independent Press spilling the beans, and >400M firearms in private hands, we would have ended up like disarmed Australia: pert near everyone vaxxed many times.
Many-many dead and injured jab casualties.
Biden and Kamala tried, really real hard, but the courts would not agree that we should all be force jabbed for ReBranded Seasonal Influenza (TM).
Saved manymany lives. :)
Kamala is married to a card-carrying Zionist, BTW.
She will get way more votes, immediately, when she comes to her senses and renounces Zionism.
None of this dysfunctionality will permanently change, until a significant majority of Citizens, globally, realize that the power is in and of themselves, not some corporation, some deity, or some arrogant rich person.
Our Rights are self evident, God-given and permanent.
Never open to any discussion to the contrary.
And any treason by representatives is immediately called out and harshly and appropriately punished.
Of the People, For the People, by the People.
Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
Our one true belief system.
All men and women are Equal Partners.
It takes a stupid person to make a stupid rule, and a fool to mind it.
You haven't been looking in the right places and you are grouping an assumption which is not reality. Dr. Jill Stein is Jewish as an example. Thousands of Jews are on the streets protesting and at the universities being beaten and arrested. There are Jewish organisations against the Terrorist State of Israel. There are Holocaust victims against the Terrorist State of Israel. The list goes on!
But they are. Consider the fact that four hundred Jewish protestors were arrested while protesting outside the New York Stick Exchange this week. Maybe you didn’t know about that because your news source didn’t even mention it? There have been multiple protests by members of Jewish Voice for Peace, and If Not Now, probably didn’t read or see them reported either.
Here’s an excellent report on Democracy Now, with an interview with an exceptional activist, Elena Stein. Please watch this and then see if you might want to revise your comments going forward.
The most effective thing they could do is not protesting actually.
Instead in their own communities they should turn against those zionists in the government. Refuse to go to their social events. Don’t invite them to their. Kick them out of temples. Boycott any temple where the Rabbi isn’t speaking out against this mass murder.
It’s much more effective that symbolic protests. It’s more real to the mass murders to face exclusion and ridicule their own community.
We Jews have movements that have been around for decades to fight this, and we are making noise, disrupting, and getting arrested. We're losing our communities and family over this, so maybe be careful with that giant hose of vitriol you're spraying around. If you're angry, be angry with organized Jewish institutions, which have 100% put the full weight of their organizations behind protecting this genocide.
OK all my Jewish friends live in the UK . Some have visited Israel but did not like it at all - most describe themselves as 'not at all Zionist' . I am sorry that my 'evidence' is only anecdotal to you . But then why believe anything anyone has to say ?
Whatever I say it is clear that you wish to condemn me and friends of mine . However perhaps I should say that the most rabid Israel supporters I have ever met were in fact born-again Christians and not Jewish at all although they thought they should have been accepted as such ! Yes they had visited Israel and loved it but , of course , wanted to convert everyone to their variety of Christianity EXCEPT of course actual practising Jews . I am Muslim so was regarded as a Satanist . If I said anything about monotheisms in general I was met with a barrage of not Islamophobia but just lies about Islam . I understood from them that telling lies about another religion is perfectly OK for Christians which STILL shocks me .
Whitewash House press briefings will make a powerful case against these scoundrels when they are on trial for aiding and abetting this genocide. Can’t wait.
The entire Biden administration, yes that’s Kamala too, should be charged under 18 U.S. Code § 1091, the US law that incorporates the Genocide Convention. Let's find a way to charge them. There is no statute of limitations for this. They should have visions of prison all the days of their lives.
It is true - they really do believe it. My aunt (79) told me over the phone the other day (while working in her synagogue's gift shop) that the Israelis have always been so kind to the Palestinians as long as the Palestinians weren't out to get them. Yeah, this is what actual people think.
At 79 your aunt should've seen enough of the reality to know the truth, but I guess if she's in Israel she's probably been it the mind field, being told what to think for most of her life.
But younger Israelis or non - Israeli cheerleaders have phones, Twitter, Tick Tock or YouTube and no excuse.
She is in Philadelphia, not Israel. She is a bright woman, and usually on top of things. But she is involved in a synagogue full of Zionists and has been a Zionist her entire life without really thinking about it. Many people are like this. More older than younger, of course. And she doesn't twitter or tiktok or youtube. And she doesn't really want to know - it's upsetting.
Yes, you are right (and yet it is so interesting to me that I respond physically with a pang of adrenaline when I read this, which I am sure your nervous system intended - we are such warring creatures - and yet I can take my nervous system in hand and calm myself with a voo or some other somatic healing instead of feeling as if I need to respond with any kind of escalation), yes, my own father built settler homes in the West Bank in the early 70s, yes my family is and was Zionist, and I - on the other hand - severed my ties to them early on, leaving home (it was violent) at 13. Yes, I have worked to undo what they have done - you can listen to my full length play about it here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/abrahams-daughters-by-emma-goldman-sherman/id1329778196?i=1000462709862 and yes that is not enough although it creates context for today even though I wrote it in 95 - it is now a "period piece" set in 93 which is when I was researching and documenting human rights abuses in Palestine. So yes to all of it.
We're not being "asked" to believe anything. We are being *told* what "reality" and how to think and speak about it. You don't like the fact there's a genocide going on? You support terrorism and Hamas. You don't want your school to invest in Israeli apartheid? You're an antisemite and veritable neo-Nazi. You want to criticize the official policies of Israel as backed and 100% supported by the Biden administration and DNC and GOP (and Labor and Tories, etc.)? Then you should either censor yourself or expect to be censored.
I don't think a lot of people realize that for all the talk of the Democrats and their bullshit dis/misinformation eradication campaign, it's the powerful who get to define "dis/misinformation" and eventually it will become Wrongthink and against the diktats of "The Party." We are all not so slowly becoming Palestinians.
It’s ALL pure projection. Israel and the US are completely entranced with the power of the false flag operation to manipulate and control the minds of the masses.
We are truly in "1984" territory. It's been said many times in the past 50 years, but never has it been so close - the same, really - as our present reality.
“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”
― George Orwell, 1984
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
― George Orwell, 1984
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984
"The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
―Suskind quoting an unnamed Bush/Cheney Regime aide.
Yep. When you concluded about the Iraq invasion, I realized this is the U.S. result from Sept 11th.
It was a tragedy, but the U.S. used it as an opportunity - they furthered their agenda of authoritarianism at home, pushed for for violent colonialism in the middle east.
Unfortunately, the current middle east situation is starting to look a lot like Vietnam - escalate, bomb, repeat; rather than push for peace agreements. This is looking like years before anything resembling peace will occur.
You are way more optimistic than I am. Either we figure out how to stop them, and fast, or we perish. They are not above bringing on the WWIII, nuclear holocaust, in fact, for a large number of Christian Zionists, that is the objective.
Maybe a large percentage of the brainwashed masses in the US and its empire of vassal states actually believe the genocidal lies and dross pumped out by the US oligarchy (government + corporate media). But even that percentage is shrinking fast, and almost none of the 83% of the global population that lives outside of the US empire believes any of this insulting shit. So when the empire comes crashing down (soon) these low-life weasels like Miller will be among the first to be convicted of crimes against humanity.
You doubt what? That most of the world doesn’t believe their lies? Or that these imperial criminals will face justice? When the empire collapses, do you think the rest of the world will just shrug and move on?
So you’re just another believer in the invincibility of the empire. Just like the invincibility of all the other empires that preceded this one. Empires never end, didn’t you know?
How dare you think you know this about me. I do not think Empires should exist and I can tell you I was born to colonial British parents in Sri Lanka after SL became a country.
The current empire is a continuation of the British Empire. Unless you hadn’t noticed. The Anglo-Americans still control everything. If the British Empire had actually ended, they would hardly control a huge chunk of Cyprus, would they?
Foresight? US empire on Israel's leash? Nope, don't think so: that duo barely has hindsight. Kill kill kill, blunder forward inured to consequences. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ever since I reached the age of real reason (Vietnam), that has seemed to be the strategy. Pretty goddamned sick and tired of it Israel-US --- I no longer differentiate between the two conjoined entities.
I agree with you there Vin. All these talking heads arguing about who's the tail and who's the dog fail to see that it's all the same dog.
Wise not to try to differentiate since zionists control both.In Israel from the open postion of government; In the US from the Lobby and in Deep government of CIA etc.
Zionists are the ones running the show. They have Jewish, Christian, and secular supporters. It would be a huge mistake to be giving any of them a pass. That would be like focusing on only a small subset of your opponents. Who benefits from your doing that? Who benefits from not seeing a complete picture?
A complete picture necessitates the inclusion and endless berating (defecating upon) the whores in the media and US political class who lap-up Zionist blood-money to propagate the flat-out lies seeded by Israel and echoed by US state dept (Blinken, talk about a whore), then picked up by these quintessential mediocrities in $5000 suits and trumpeted to the half-braindeads over the cable "news" airways. Max Blumenthal is all over these people in his documentary "Atrocity Inc." I enjoy it when he calls them "marionettes"; so appropriate. Anyone needing to inflame their senses of sheer corrupt mendacious injustice should watch it on the Grayzone.
I agree with you, Vin. And that's a pity. Others would feel the same.
But it is a small minority overall who are in there pitching for Israel, plus media, plus Presidential misfits and candidates, corrupted pubic servants, fully paid for politicians, investment profiteers like BlackRock, all within enough corrupted Jewish money in their coffers to influence decisions. That's the name of the game.
That is why we are where we are, today but that is nowhere near 330 million people, not even close.
If we have to wait for a gradual change back to occur through the laboured realisation of what genocidal Israel and arrogant Jewish thinking really means , Israel to just vanish bit by bit, it could take 20 years for decent American people to be in a position to remove every Israeli from the land.
For a dramatic change to occur, for America to become America once again and break from being an Israel tame puppet in double quick time, It needs to be a real threat to mainland USA. Just one. Only one perhaps. A country that does not care like North Korea, the target, New York where the impact will be substantial. A sharp realisation then that real change is necessary .....IMMEDIATELY.
So where to from here.? Election date 5 November. How do you turn it around?
*Zionist. 🤡
Likewise, I was at university facing the draft lottery upon graduation, having already witnessed the return of friends either in body bags or in hospitals sick with lymphoma from agent orange exposure. Good ol' USA ended or ruined countless lives, as you say for nothing in reality, For the perpetuation of delusional exceptionalist empire in the minds of our corrupt rulers, bought and paid for.
It's odd how the mainstream media never talks about how the Israelis use Palesinian prisoners as "human shields" or how they send them ahead to be sure there will be no explosives for the IDF soldiers to detonate. The Empire invaded Iraq because it had oil. Everything the US empire supports is to enrich itself. Maybe some of its lackeys are also enriched on the side too. The Empire threatens anyone who opposes them. Labels them as terrorists. Tortures them. Imprisons them. Threatens nuclear retaliation. The US Empire has completely lost it's ability (if it ever had it) to be rational and we will all suffer one way or another through the wars they foment and the environmental destruction they allow.
The NYT had an article this week, October 14, 2024, on just that issue. The headline: “How Israel’s Army Uses Palestinians as Human Shields in Gaza.”
Just below: “Israeli soldiers and Palestinian former detainees say troops have regularly forced captured Gazans to carry out life-threatening tasks, including inside Hamas tunnels.”
Every once in a while, the NYT does a good job. You can count on the fingers of one hand just how often.
1. it's late (not news), the relevant outlets were reporting this a few months ago.
2. probably buried somewhat deeper under other actual 'news' (that is, things happening now) and never at a time when israel is invoking the 'human shields' trope (when it would actually counter israeli propaganda).
3. this will be used in the future as an alibi that they reported on all views and perspectives.
4. nyt is a malignant news outlet. these articles show that they actually know better and are intelligent enough to understand what they're doing the rest of the time. very bad newspaper, very bad people.
Well said Martin! You dissected the shadow narratives that NYT (and other such MSM outlets) use to maintain a facade of legitimacy. They are Empire propaganda outfits in EVERY WAY!
"The Empire invaded Iraq because it had oil." I don't agree. The Empire invaded Iraq because it was the most fervent Palestine supporter among the Arab world...it was invaded at Zionism's behest!
Netanyahu’s plan was laid out in 1996.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
Apologists for the Kiev regime claimed for years that the people of Donetsk were, for no discernable reason shelling themselves (not only that, but to listen to the apologists, they also had artillery shells that can turn 180° midflight!) and also that they were trapped by evil Russians and were at the same time somehow deserving of punishment.
The Russians were baffled and dismayed by the practice. Of course, it was a well-known Israeli trick itself borrowed from tried and true British cunning and rascality (see Skripals, Berezovsky, Litvinenko, MH17, etc).
maybe i'm somewhere biased, but to me the hostility towards russia in those things, the artificial resuscitation of the cold war 'enemy' and the total absence of a western counter narrative seemed so obvious, that it was hard to see it as a 'trick'. to me it looked pretty much 'in your face' what they were doing.
you yourself stated the other day you're in the minority. those tricks are designed for the deciding majority and applied over and over because they work. easy to verify - just talk to the regular folks around you.
the tricksters don't care about those few that see through them.
Zelensky was ordering his soldiers to rape and kill Russian speaking Ukranians in the Donbass. Zelensky is a Jew
“Oh how heartbreaking and tragic, this is all very complicated.”
The most heartbreaking and tragic thing is very simple actually: Anyone who enjoys burning people alive and shooting children in the head is a psychopath. Anyone who continues to support anyone in a leadership position that funds these horrendous acts is a sociopath. It's not complicated at all.
The United States, beginning with the landing of the Pilgrims, and Israel, beginning with the landing of the Zionists, follow identical patterns of history. Both obtained assistance from the indigenous people and then obliterated them. Continuous wars, always in defense, never compromising, always killing mercilessly, and each convinced of their exceptionalism categorize the Israelis and Americans ─ partners in crime against humanity, willing accomplices to genocide.
Let’s not forget that Zionism began in the 15th century with early Christian Protestants in England, among whom were The Puritans.
It does add a further dimension to our analysis of this issue to realize the origins of Zionism pre-date political Zionism by some 400 years, and came out of a Messianic, religious tradition that exists to this day, and whose aim is total annihilation.
Trying to understand this as being a fully rational project will always leave out this aspect, and will continue to not be able to get a complete understanding of what we are seeing.
I’ve tried to condense it to a convergence of three main elements, Power, Profits, and Prophets. They each have different goals that are currently united, but there are deep contradictions. It might be of benefit to assess how these contradictions can be increased.
Unfortunately, decades of fluoride, vaccine adjuvants, and psychiatric drugs, among other agents, have destroyed the average American’s (especially those who live in blue cities and college towns) ability to comprehend the spiritual. Notice their total hostility to the very idea. So they simply cannot see the red-eyed beast that feeds them, strokes their vacuous heads, and ushers them toward annihilation. They will compile data and hold conferences all the way to the end, vainly searching reason for the answer to social and spiritual psychosis.
"Let’s not forget that Zionism began in the 15th century with early Christian Protestants in England, among whom were The Puritans. "
15th century? Interesting. Can you point me to some sources?
The Pilgrims bought their land from the Natives, but the Natives expected to continue to use the land's resources. The colonists built fences where no fences had ever been before, closing off their property to make the land their own. Tensions had long existed due to the two cultures different ways of life.
The Puritans arrival in America, which eventually became the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and their fatal encounter with the native population, set the stage for the settlement of the entire coast to coast territory. Insecurity and mistrust guided the relations between what became a nation of Americans and the indigenous populations. Superiority of U.S. military forces enabled American pioneers to move inexorably from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans. Wherever the Americans arrived they found native peoples. Wherever they settled, the native peoples, even those who cooperated, like Chief Joseph and his Nez Perce tribe, were decimated.
The Zionist Jewish narrative closely follows the Separatist Puritan narrative. The early years of the development of the nation of Israel parallels the Puritan experience in America. Let us hope the trajectory will be detoured and the Israelis do not prove to be the New Puritans.
Perceptive and important.
The Pilgrims bought their land from the Natives, but the Natives expected to continue to use the land's resources. The colonists built fences where no fences had ever been before, closing off their property to make the land their own. Tensions had long existed due to the two cultures different ways of life.
The Puritans arrival in America, which eventually became the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and their fatal encounter with the native population, set the stage for the settlement of the entire coast to coast territory. Insecurity and mistrust guided the relations between what became a nation of Americans and the indigenous populations. Superiority of U.S. military forces enabled American pioneers to move inexorably from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans. Wherever the Americans arrived they found native peoples. Wherever they settled, the native peoples, even those who cooperated, like Chief Joseph and his Nez Perce tribe, were decimated.
The Zionist Jewish narrative closely follows the Separatist Puritan narrative. The early years of the development of the nation of Israel parallels the Puritan experience in America. Let us hope the trajectory will be detoured and the Israelis do not prove to be the New Puritans.
I just saw a comment by an Israeli, commenting on a post by a Palestinian who said Israel killed another of his family member, now over 50 of them murdered in Gaza, saying "blame Hamas"
As if the IOF is run by Hamas. It's sickening and insane.
Remind him that if he supports the IDF he’s supporting rape.
I think the Israeli he’s talking about is fully on board with rape, as is the large majority of the apartheid state.
Not quite - rape being bad or good depends on who is the perpetrator and who is the victim .
That’s true, sadly.
Yup and also fabricating rape victims in the oct 7th attacks, for which there was zero evidence and making a big deal of it in the MSM …
There are a thousand things I could say in response, but I'm tired and can't afford to waste any more energy...I wish there was some magic words or line of reasoning to break the Zionist spell..
This genocide is so obscene and traumatic. Im oscillating between shock, grief and rage all day. I feel so bad for Palestine and the resistance in west Asia, embarrassed that my complicit nation is covering itself in shame. I hope the younger children of Blinken, Starmer, White House spokespeople et al. learn and become ashamed of their disgraceful parents.
Not the way it works. Chris Hedges has some writings on the pathology of the rich and powerful. They pass it down. Blinken himself is a nepo-baby and 2nd gen Zionist pretending to serve US govt.
I’m hoping with time there’s more awareness which makes cognitive dissonance more difficult.
Cognitve dissonance doesn't always get resolved. What often happens over long periods of time is that people adapt their defense mechanisms and learn to live with cognitive dissonance.
If "having cognitive dissonance" solved problems, humanity would have had a different history that the reality we face currently.
Cancel U.N. Resolution Non Binding Resolution #181 establishing Israel. At least Expel Israel, or Cancel the U.N. USA/Israel puppet.
Make Palestine Palestine . Wage Peace and Justice.
What blows my mind is that since Jews think they once lived in Palestine, they have a right to keep it all to themselves 6000 years later.
These Israelis, erstwhile refugees from Hitler's Germany/Stalinist Russia, are White Europeans.
Converts to Judaism.
They are not Mizrahi, indigenous Middle East Jews.
They have no ancestral claim to any Palestinian land.
And even if they did, and after 2000 years, they just can't walk up to someone's property, kick them out,
or kill them,
on the basis that, they assert, their ancestors once lived in that area.
If these Israelis were civilized people, they would have bought the available land, and accept the fact that they would likely never be able to honestly acquire the 6K contiguous square miles to reestablish their legendary territory.
The Arabs have, for 76 years since the Nakba, behaved with admirable restraint.
They are a whole lot nicer than the Afghanis, who have defeated not one but two fully mechanized armies, with little more than small arms, IEDS, and Persistence.
The Palestinians, even now, are still trying to negotiate with the Zionist Israelis, to no avail.
As the Israelis hunt down and kill the Palestinian negotiators.
And bomb more Palestinian homes, hospitals, schools, refugee camps.
Using American munitions.
The Israelis are clearly the agressors, and they always have been.
Ever since they brought themselves to Palestine after WW2.
These Zionist Israelis are vicious depraved savages.
Carpet bombing Gaza to bits, and most recently, dropping incendiaries on a tent hospital, set up outside a hospital that they recently destroyed.
Burning many patients alive.
The Israelis forfeit their victim status when they became victimizers.
And that was a long time ago.
Joe Biden. Kamala Harris.
Don't talk about Freedom and Constitution and Human Rights.
While the Palestinians are being extirpated.
Time to pull the plug on Israel.
Palestine for the Palestinians.
Do It Now.
Call Bibi.
Tell him no more.
If I leave the UK for more than 3 years and then return, I can’t claim any benefits or get a mortgage for another 3 years. Three years! But somehow 3000 is ‘birthright’??
I agree.
The Israelis have no birthright.
Everything that they have, they stole.
I liked everything you said until you mentioned Biden/Harris. They are Zionists themselves and before them and after them would be more Zionists crawling everywhere. This is not to say that America was nice until this genocide - far from it.
I just heard a rant from Yuri Geller,and he was incandescent with anger,he was stupidly and obscenely angry that Biden and Harris were claiming all the glory. My friend Bibi did it all he shouted. Bibi is a Killer,a supreme killer ,the emperor of murder and those two Americans are claiming all the glory.Its wrong threatened the Spoon Bender.
Just insane, that pert near no one seems to agree that bombing unarmed civilians is wrong.
The Palestinians are the indigenous population, the Israelis are erstwhile refugees installed there after WW2.
Who immediately went to war with the original inhabitants, to remove them all, by force, from territory that they have inhabited for thousands of years.
MILLIONS of people.
And the United States government supports this genocide.
Same thing they did to the indigenous US population.
And for the same reasons:
To seize the rich resources.
True.
America is not nice.
Was not nice to the indigenous inhabitants.
Exterminated 4/5 of them.
Manifest Destiny settled the old west.
America is not nice to anybody, really.
Except the arrogant rich people, and Their flunkies.
TPTB are regularly attempting to hatch plots to rob, cull, and enslave us lowly plebians.
Plots foiled in just the nick of time.
Repeatedly.
Observe the COVID Plandemic:
If not for the Independent Press spilling the beans, and >400M firearms in private hands, we would have ended up like disarmed Australia: pert near everyone vaxxed many times.
Many-many dead and injured jab casualties.
Biden and Kamala tried, really real hard, but the courts would not agree that we should all be force jabbed for ReBranded Seasonal Influenza (TM).
Saved manymany lives. :)
Kamala is married to a card-carrying Zionist, BTW.
She will get way more votes, immediately, when she comes to her senses and renounces Zionism.
None of this dysfunctionality will permanently change, until a significant majority of Citizens, globally, realize that the power is in and of themselves, not some corporation, some deity, or some arrogant rich person.
Our Rights are self evident, God-given and permanent.
Never open to any discussion to the contrary.
And any treason by representatives is immediately called out and harshly and appropriately punished.
Of the People, For the People, by the People.
Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
Our one true belief system.
All men and women are Equal Partners.
It takes a stupid person to make a stupid rule, and a fool to mind it.
Do not be a stupid.
Do not be a fool.
FREEDOM!!! :)
Not all Jews are Zionists. And not all Jews live in Israel. In fact, the majority of Jews live outside of Israel, and are not extremists.
So what?
It’s not like we’re seeing hardly ANY of the world’s Jews doing anything but supporting this mass, ugly evil.
Those non-evil Jews you keep insisting are so numerous need to be making a HELL of a lot of noise right now.
But they’re not.
What’s that tell you about what is actually important to them?
You haven't been looking in the right places and you are grouping an assumption which is not reality. Dr. Jill Stein is Jewish as an example. Thousands of Jews are on the streets protesting and at the universities being beaten and arrested. There are Jewish organisations against the Terrorist State of Israel. There are Holocaust victims against the Terrorist State of Israel. The list goes on!
https://www.gp.org/democracy#Palestine
probably far from perfect to quell your (justified) anger, but this should probably be the 'center' position.
But they are. Consider the fact that four hundred Jewish protestors were arrested while protesting outside the New York Stick Exchange this week. Maybe you didn’t know about that because your news source didn’t even mention it? There have been multiple protests by members of Jewish Voice for Peace, and If Not Now, probably didn’t read or see them reported either.
Here’s an excellent report on Democracy Now, with an interview with an exceptional activist, Elena Stein. Please watch this and then see if you might want to revise your comments going forward.
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/10/15/jvp_protest_new_york_stock_exchange
The most effective thing they could do is not protesting actually.
Instead in their own communities they should turn against those zionists in the government. Refuse to go to their social events. Don’t invite them to their. Kick them out of temples. Boycott any temple where the Rabbi isn’t speaking out against this mass murder.
It’s much more effective that symbolic protests. It’s more real to the mass murders to face exclusion and ridicule their own community.
But…that’s not happening.
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/10/15/jvp_protest_new_york_stock_exchange
We Jews have movements that have been around for decades to fight this, and we are making noise, disrupting, and getting arrested. We're losing our communities and family over this, so maybe be careful with that giant hose of vitriol you're spraying around. If you're angry, be angry with organized Jewish institutions, which have 100% put the full weight of their organizations behind protecting this genocide.
I'm not into bigotry against Jews - like you are. And your obvious bigotry makes you one dumb fuck.
Yes indeed - my Jewish friends are pretty anti-Israel and would not dream of living there !
OK all my Jewish friends live in the UK . Some have visited Israel but did not like it at all - most describe themselves as 'not at all Zionist' . I am sorry that my 'evidence' is only anecdotal to you . But then why believe anything anyone has to say ?
Whatever I say it is clear that you wish to condemn me and friends of mine . However perhaps I should say that the most rabid Israel supporters I have ever met were in fact born-again Christians and not Jewish at all although they thought they should have been accepted as such ! Yes they had visited Israel and loved it but , of course , wanted to convert everyone to their variety of Christianity EXCEPT of course actual practising Jews . I am Muslim so was regarded as a Satanist . If I said anything about monotheisms in general I was met with a barrage of not Islamophobia but just lies about Islam . I understood from them that telling lies about another religion is perfectly OK for Christians which STILL shocks me .
Whitewash House press briefings will make a powerful case against these scoundrels when they are on trial for aiding and abetting this genocide. Can’t wait.
The entire Biden administration, yes that’s Kamala too, should be charged under 18 U.S. Code § 1091, the US law that incorporates the Genocide Convention. Let's find a way to charge them. There is no statute of limitations for this. They should have visions of prison all the days of their lives.
"Off the top of my head I really can’t think of anything more absurd." I can.
The fact that so many fkn people believe that shit!
It is true - they really do believe it. My aunt (79) told me over the phone the other day (while working in her synagogue's gift shop) that the Israelis have always been so kind to the Palestinians as long as the Palestinians weren't out to get them. Yeah, this is what actual people think.
At 79 your aunt should've seen enough of the reality to know the truth, but I guess if she's in Israel she's probably been it the mind field, being told what to think for most of her life.
But younger Israelis or non - Israeli cheerleaders have phones, Twitter, Tick Tock or YouTube and no excuse.
She is in Philadelphia, not Israel. She is a bright woman, and usually on top of things. But she is involved in a synagogue full of Zionists and has been a Zionist her entire life without really thinking about it. Many people are like this. More older than younger, of course. And she doesn't twitter or tiktok or youtube. And she doesn't really want to know - it's upsetting.
Yes, you are right (and yet it is so interesting to me that I respond physically with a pang of adrenaline when I read this, which I am sure your nervous system intended - we are such warring creatures - and yet I can take my nervous system in hand and calm myself with a voo or some other somatic healing instead of feeling as if I need to respond with any kind of escalation), yes, my own father built settler homes in the West Bank in the early 70s, yes my family is and was Zionist, and I - on the other hand - severed my ties to them early on, leaving home (it was violent) at 13. Yes, I have worked to undo what they have done - you can listen to my full length play about it here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/abrahams-daughters-by-emma-goldman-sherman/id1329778196?i=1000462709862 and yes that is not enough although it creates context for today even though I wrote it in 95 - it is now a "period piece" set in 93 which is when I was researching and documenting human rights abuses in Palestine. So yes to all of it.
We're not being "asked" to believe anything. We are being *told* what "reality" and how to think and speak about it. You don't like the fact there's a genocide going on? You support terrorism and Hamas. You don't want your school to invest in Israeli apartheid? You're an antisemite and veritable neo-Nazi. You want to criticize the official policies of Israel as backed and 100% supported by the Biden administration and DNC and GOP (and Labor and Tories, etc.)? Then you should either censor yourself or expect to be censored.
I don't think a lot of people realize that for all the talk of the Democrats and their bullshit dis/misinformation eradication campaign, it's the powerful who get to define "dis/misinformation" and eventually it will become Wrongthink and against the diktats of "The Party." We are all not so slowly becoming Palestinians.
This is 1984
We already are; we just don’t know it yet. We may not know for a while.
It’s ALL pure projection. Israel and the US are completely entranced with the power of the false flag operation to manipulate and control the minds of the masses.
We are truly in "1984" territory. It's been said many times in the past 50 years, but never has it been so close - the same, really - as our present reality.
“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”
― George Orwell, 1984
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
― George Orwell, 1984
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984
"The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
―Suskind quoting an unnamed Bush/Cheney Regime aide.
Foulcault’s Power/Knowledge nexus.
Foucault.
Yep. When you concluded about the Iraq invasion, I realized this is the U.S. result from Sept 11th.
It was a tragedy, but the U.S. used it as an opportunity - they furthered their agenda of authoritarianism at home, pushed for for violent colonialism in the middle east.
Unfortunately, the current middle east situation is starting to look a lot like Vietnam - escalate, bomb, repeat; rather than push for peace agreements. This is looking like years before anything resembling peace will occur.
You are way more optimistic than I am. Either we figure out how to stop them, and fast, or we perish. They are not above bringing on the WWIII, nuclear holocaust, in fact, for a large number of Christian Zionists, that is the objective.
Maybe a large percentage of the brainwashed masses in the US and its empire of vassal states actually believe the genocidal lies and dross pumped out by the US oligarchy (government + corporate media). But even that percentage is shrinking fast, and almost none of the 83% of the global population that lives outside of the US empire believes any of this insulting shit. So when the empire comes crashing down (soon) these low-life weasels like Miller will be among the first to be convicted of crimes against humanity.
I doubt this.
You doubt what? That most of the world doesn’t believe their lies? Or that these imperial criminals will face justice? When the empire collapses, do you think the rest of the world will just shrug and move on?
They will not face trial!
I am sure some of them will face trial but NEtanyahu won't neither will Biden.
So you’re just another believer in the invincibility of the empire. Just like the invincibility of all the other empires that preceded this one. Empires never end, didn’t you know?
How dare you think you know this about me. I do not think Empires should exist and I can tell you I was born to colonial British parents in Sri Lanka after SL became a country.
Who in the British colonial wars ever got jailed?
The current empire is a continuation of the British Empire. Unless you hadn’t noticed. The Anglo-Americans still control everything. If the British Empire had actually ended, they would hardly control a huge chunk of Cyprus, would they?
You stated, “They will not stand trial!”
Your own testimony that you believe that the anti-empire forces will not prevail.