For the low low cost of what 15 trillions and a few thousand American lives...and unknown numbers of people in these countries, but who cares about them. Also making European countries lean far right ..due to forced migration of refugees.
The BOYCOTT of ISRAELI GOODS - Consumer's Guide to Brands and Labels to Boycott
The BDS movement is in the spotlight again after the eruption of the ongoing Israel-Hamas war which started on October 7, 2023. Israels response to the Hamas terrorist attack has consisted of relentless indiscriminatory airstrikes and now a huge ground offensive.
I don't even know what you are referring to that you would come up with that question. I see it basically as a genocide. They say they are after Hamas but one wouldn't know it from all the death and destruction in Gaza. The destruction of their hospitals, the lack of food and producing conditions that will predispose them to infections of all kinds, not to some 22 thousand dead Palestinians.
If you look closely across Europe, this is what every major digital media, newspaper and TV outlet is doing. They are selling the people a barrage of messages about a mythical “Israel-Hamas” war as a diversion when in fact they should be telling the European public that there is a massacre - genocide - going on in which European countries are supporting Israel’s murder of 30,000 palestinian people 755 of which are women and children.
And it’s increasingly appearing that Iran is whom they’ll GET.
According to US Marine/ intelligence officer ( and my main crush 😉) Scott Ritter, Iran has 10k precision missile aimed at IsraHell. IsraHell could drop a nuke on Iran, but Iran could still obliterate IsraHell.
***Pure* *SWAG***, but I suspect that Israel knows that as American power declines, the window of opportunity to use America to eliminate Iran is closing.
The day and hour that happens, the Zionists occupying Palestine will see their doomsday clock start ticking. Their model has not even 24 hrs. on the dial.
I take a drug called quetiapine to sleep, and I make sure I always have a full bottle…my MD brother calls it a “ major tranquilizer “. I’m sure it’ll do the job, since I’m not inclined to blow my head off with my revolver 😉
They didn't get away with it as they hoped.. Now its obsesion and to the point of self destruction like how a serial killer can't get it's next high without escalating it till they are caught or dead.
The American government is in on it - not being «goaded».
But this is a new level of crazy. Previously the US has been using smaller countries as attack dogs: Ukraine, etc. What happens when the US unleashes a nuclear-armed proxy that is led by extremist zionist «jihadis»?
"US Secretary of State Blinken to visit nine countries as Israel’s war on Gaza widens to Lebanon and threatens to engulf region." What do you think Feral of sending a neocon SOB like Blinken on a tour of nine countries to calm things down. People don't recognize that our middle eastern wars were driven my a neocon agenda, and before we went into Afghanistan there were seven countries on our hit list. I wonder if this is not more of the same. I wonder if we don't want to bring down these countries we claim we want to reassure, like Iran, Lebanon etc. If this SOB wanted to calm things down then no more weapons for Netanyahu, for Israel and the people of Israel implementing the death and destruction of the Palestinians. What propaganda BS!! If you ask me another good reason may be that Biden is so low in the poles the old SOB can tie his shoe laces without bending down.
I'm really afraid this is going to escalate into multiple wars as it did in the Middle East. The neocon's shifted their allegiance to the democrats during the Trump years, and neocons like Blinken and Nuland are part of this administration, as well as others. It seems hard to believe Israel didn't know of the impending attack by Hamas, let it happen, and was going to use it as an opportunity to implement a genocide in Gaza. If they knew, the US knew it as well. I'm sure the US is going to use it to further their own political agenda, which means more war. That makes more sense to me then anything else. The US State Department, Mathew Miller. has the nerve to say he doesn't see a genocide going on. When you look at our Middle Eastern wars, their willingness to lie, to push obvious BS, and they got away with it, and the mainstream media backed them, just as they are doing now for Israel.
I am not now, nor have I ever been a "9/11 Truther". I express no opinion regarding whether or under what circumstances a kerosene-fueled fire can weaken steel.
BUT I will say that 9/11 proved hella convenient to those who sought war abroad and a crackdown on dissent at home.
To give an example, before 9/11, anything like the so-called "Patriot Act" would have been a non-starter. As a Senator, Biden sponsored something similar in the 1990s and his proposal sank like a bad joke. On 9/12, Americans could not surrender their civil liberties fast enough.
For that matter, the same CIA and FBI who had no clue about 9/11 suddenly rushed to assure us that Iraq was just chock-a-block with WMDs. You may recall that Senator Biden was one of the chief congressional architects of that particular war of aggression.
I was very active in the anti-war movement, and even saw Scott Ritter in person making the claim there were no weapons of mass destruction before the war. I never believed any of it, and saw Westley Clark acknowledge that before we went into Afghanistan we had seven countries on our hit list. I feel what is going on now is more of the same. I didn't get into the 9/11 stuff either, but if someone said we did it, and provided some proof, no problem in believing them, not when the Project for a New American Century with Cheney as one of it's primary signatories claimed all we need to carry out their agenda in the Middle East was a New Pearl Harbor. Well, what a coincidence. Biden was an aggressor of all our Middle Eastern wars and used his position in the Senate to push everyone of them. Do you remember his claiming he opposed the Iraq war? What is so disturbing is the US claim which Matthew Miller made recently, like yesterday, no evidence of a genocide in Gaza. They obviously believe we are all idiots.
I believe a man named "Goebbels" said something about a "big lie". I also recall that this "Goebbels" fellow had some practical experience in such matters.
There seems to be no doubt at all that the US is going to be told by Israel to fulfil the permanent role of providing "Israel’s back”, also known as the military and financial support for a very ambitious Israeli "Eretz Israel” operation, also known as “from the river to the sea”, the Euphrates to the Nile. This will then see the power of US firepower against Hezbollah and Iran and probably Yemen as well, even though not one of those countries is even close to being a threat to even one American life, near any part of the US mainland nor a threat to US national security in any way at all. The objective of this Israeli initiated war will be to assist in the elimination of all Israel’s list of clearly stated enemies in the Middle East, allowing Israel with 400 nuclear warheads to totally control that part of the Globe and then to assume the role of regional hegemonic leader, just as the US is trying to be the undisputed ruler of the rest of the world, its favourite weapon being the Veto in the UN Security Council, as the world has seen used to its selfish advantage for almost 75 years.
A joint effort for total control, with the elimination of all Arab nations as the eventual long term objective.
I find some mirthless humor in the possibility that in the event of an attack on Iran, Vladimir Putin's Russian regime may come to the aid of Khamenei in an alliance against Israel and the US (and NATO.) Putin may conclude that Russia cannot afford the geopolitical consequences of an Iranian military defeat. And next thing you know, we're all in a theater-wide state of war of opposing alliances that both possess enough atomic weapons to destroy planetary civilization- or Western civilization, Iran, and Russia, anyway.
This leaves Xi Jinping's China as the adults in the room, for better or worse. I don't care for the way Xi and the CCP govern the PRC, but internal affairs are Chinese business, and I find no compelling reason for the US to actively interfere at that level. In terms of global economy, at least the Chinese have the sense to realize how bad War is for their international position, and for the business of global trade. Unlike the US, the Chinese haven't taken to relying on an arms as an export industry to inflate their GDP. The Chinese aren't deluded. Unlike the leadership of both parties in the US, whose capacity for self-delusion appears limitless.
At least to outward appearances, Xi and the CCP appear to have a sober understanding of the fact that the use of nuclear weapons- even "tactical" nukes- constitutes a potentially catastrophic escalation in the history of War on the planet, and a grave hazard for children and other living things. Unlike the militarist fanatic factions of end-times Christians, ethnocentric Zionists, and apocalyptic Islamists. And I make note of that vexing state of affairs as a Christian, despite the fact that it's a situation most often brought up by the atheists in the conversation.
I'm wary of counterfactual scenarios; they're exercises of imagination. Hypotheses, not evidence. And as far as I know, the Putin regime in Russia has shown no more interest in active military intervention on behalf of the Gaza Palestinians than the Arab regimes in the region. So, like, zero.
If Netanyahu expands the war into Lebanon to an extent that threatens Syria and Iran, that's different. Putin may feel the need to actively intervene on their side despite the fact that Russian military forces are already committed in Ukraine. Other than a few signal intelligence stations in nations along their southern border, Russia's only foreign military base is their naval base in Aleppo, Syria. The Russians have been aiding the Assad regime against the fractious non-coalition of Arabs (mostly represented on the battlefront by al-Nusra) and Kurdish nationalists since the outbreak of the rebellion against Assad. The Syrian Arabs and Kurds (both Sunni) refuse to form a common alliance against Assad's ruling faction (Allawite, quasi-Shi'ite) despite expensive efforts by the US to encourage that coalition. (That's been one of the main goals of US Special Forces "training and assistance" units still somehow stationed in hostile Syria, and thus far a miserable failure...only someone falling for ISW snake oil could believe that such an alliance could be facilitated by Americans, instead of the locals themselves, duh. Anyway, I guess the Green Berets still get on with the Kurds, mostly, kinda sorta, up to a point.)
The Syria situation has of course been complicated by the Islamic State, a pack of opportunistic nihilist criminals who are exceedingly unpopular with everyone except for whoever keeps funding them and arming them to account for their mysterious persistence as a fighting force and "player" in Syria and Iraq, years after they were supposedly resoundingly eradicated on the battlefield in both countries. It's the alleged continuing presence of Daesh- the IS- that has supposedly justified the continuing presence of American forward infantry bases in both Iraq and Syria (?) It's worth noting that only last week the Iraqi Parliament has passed a resolution in favor of expelling the US troop presence from Iraq. It remains to be seen whether the US government will ignore this move the same way they ignored a similar resolution passed years ago in the aftermath of the US assassination of Gen. Qassem Suleimani on Iraqi soil, where he and his Quds forces were official guests of the Iraqi government. It's enough to lead one to wonder who really runs the country.
Then there are the US bases in the far reaches of eastern and southern Syria, which supposedly "protect Syrian oil fields from IS takeover" despite the plain fact that the US is engaged in a proxy war to overthrow the Assad regime.
The Ukro-Russian War has also drawn Iran and Russia closer together. If the US had followed up on the multiple opportunities to settle Russian national security concerns in regard to EU markets and NATO bases encroaching on the western borders of Russia prior to 2022, it's likely that the Russian invasion would have been obviated, and Ukrainian national sovereignty could have been preserved. The resolution of that problem in turn would have provided enough of a common ground between Russia and the US that the Russians would have felt no need to be threatened by a regime change in Iran toward a non-theocratic government seeking friendly relations with the West. https://www.cato.org/commentary/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it#
However, given the recent turn of events in Ukraine, there's no way that Russia could view the prospect of a West-friendly Iranian regime as anything other than part of a process of geographic encirclement, and hence a dire existential threat to Russian national security.
There's no innate societal or ideological reason why the Russia of Putin would feel any kinship with Khamenei's Shi'ite theocracy. But the increasing pressure from the US/UK/NATO--functionally allied with Israel--is pushing Russia and Iran closer and closer together in a partnership that may lead to an overt military alliance- including the prospect of Russian units and aircraft on the ground in Iran. A substantial number of Russian military forces are already committed to a battlefield and occupation duties in eastern Ukraine, of course. But Russia's a big country. And also a country that includes a large multi-ethnic Muslim population, presumably including a readiness to train, live, and fight alongside their co-religionists in the event of hostilities that might extend into Iran, Iraq, and/or Syria. (I wonder if US think-tanks like Brookings or the ISW have produced any "studies" looking into that possibility.)
Counterfactual scenarios are nonetheless hypotheses, and not to be confused with evidence. They are by definition conjectures about the past constructed in the absence of evidence- based on what didn't happen- or they wouldn't be counterfactual.
I doubt that I'll ever buy into an Appeal To Authority based on an AI program, no matter how advanced it's touted to be. Either as a position statement, or as supplemental factual support.
Frankly, I'm alarmed that you- or anyone- could be that trusting.
A swift glance at the history of a nation, the "greatness" of which was built on the genocide of 7.5 million of the indigenous population of its subcontinent, coupled with the enslavement of 14.5 million of the populace of another continent, and still somehow imagines itself to be the moral guardian of the world, kind of indicates it would be unwise to expect anything better of it.
You'll be glad to know most of us aren't buying it. I knew that story was a fairy tale when I was a kid. The very fact we killed the Indians told me we were not to be trusted, now I'm not saying some don't hold on to that bit of trash and believe it, but I know a lot of people don't.
I never thought most Americans buy that "moral guardian" crap, but the American government and several other western governments use that line so that they can justify all the wars they foment.
I think most Americans are just trying to get by, like the many in most countries. Americans are really subjected to a lot of propaganda, especially the older ones who rely on the mainstream media in all it's forms. Now younger people go to the computer and get a broader perspective, a more honest perspective on things. The younger people are speaking up and many are marching against the genocide Israel is implementing in Gaza. I wonder if the Israeli's are doing the same. Biden is really low in the poles, which says people are paying attention. Bottom line, Americans like everyone else are just people, no better, no worse. and they know it.
The younger people in Western countries go on the computer to “social media”, which is their #1 source of news. There they get fed customised streams of propaganda and lies by these companies algorithms, overseen by these companies “consultation” and “Advice” from the “disinformation” agencies aka miinstry of propaganda, in the US and EU.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. has not observed acts in Gaza that constitute genocide, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said on Wednesday, after South Africa launched genocide proceedings at the International Court of Justice over Israel's military operation in the Palestinian enclave.
"Those are allegations that should not be made lightly ... we are not seeing any acts that constitute genocide," Miller said at a regular news briefing. "That is a determination by the State Department," he added.
Well .all that may not matter much when the economy is hollowed out and the debt is piled high that interest payments take up most of the taxes. Our overreach will bankrupt us ..and all that for the benefit of some other country. Do we really care who runs Syria
"And all for land, money and geostrategic control, same as always."
This is a crisis of modern consciousness. As an Iranian scanning the politics for decades, the Iranian government is infected by the same consciousness of power, control, greed. They weaponize Islam. Zionists weaponize Judaism and the trauma of holocaust, West in general weaponizes freedom, equality, rights etc... It is all the same fractal pattern, which has always been there throughout human history, yet now it seems to be at its peak, as in this age it can source energy from millions of good hearted people's votes and taxes. I call it modern, as utilizing the 'sacred' towards material (political, economical) goals is an essential part of the modern consciousness.
But also it would not be fair to put Iranian government completely in the same plate, as they do not have the pattern of invading and colonizing others for the past centuries. The anti-dote to it would be a whole different level of consciousness, starting with education and human development, which no one is giving priority to. A new consciousness would need a new understanding of the 'sacred' orders. The work of Mercea Eliade, The Sacred and The Profane opens many doors, at least to figure out where to begin with.
I am sharing this as many people are habitually searching for a political solution for it all. Political solutions will mostly remain part of the problem and contribute to the complexity, as they do not arise from a different level of consciousness.
thanks Kamyar - the most ludicrous justification for the US terrorist actions is the promotion of "Democracy" when their political system is now totally corrupt, basically a one party sate with 2 wings, identical apart from the colour of their banners. I think part of the reason they hate China and other one-party states so much is that they are jealous that they don't have to waste so much time and money on fake elections. The US corporate state would love to do away with elections altogether.
I am not sure if they would want to get rid of elections. Representative democracy is really working well for them, and they can keep using 'democracy' and 'freedom' as a shield to protect the real value system, which is greed, control and power. But I see your point in total corruption.
They want to do away with anything remotely like a competitive election. But it’s not possible for them to do that without provoking another “January 6” or worse.
And that’s going to be a catastrophe. But then again these are authoritarians anyway, and they probably view it as an opportunity.
Read Agamben: “State of Emergency”, to see where this has been headed, and where it ends up.
They ARE doing away with the 2024 election already.
The Dems are basically eliminering primaries, after wikileaks espoused the sham they did with Bernie last time around.
The Dems are also using the DOJ and state courts to remove Trump from the 2024 election ballot.
What they dont seem to have accounted for, is after they tip the scales on this election, turning it into a scam…….how are they going to cope with an inevitable backlash from the GOP faithful who react to an obviously illegitimate and sham election.
As usual they dont think.
I suspect these fools will end up precipitating the kind of national state of emergency that often results from rigged election in third world nations - which is what the US is sliding down to.
From the Team D perspective, what matters is winning. Doesn't matter if the elections are full-on banana republic, as long as they win and get the goodies that come with winning.
Its going to be difficult to “win” i.e (gain power under the facade of “democracy”)….by holding a sham election that everyone around the world views as rigged, turning the country into a garrison state held together by troops on the street pointing guns and the the infamous bayonets on their own people.
And indeed BOTH the Dems and GOP have been stocking up for this for a very long time:
What I am saying is that problem they now have, is that they have been manufacturing consent with these sham elections, while operating an oligarchy in which they actually do what the few billionaires want:
They reel off these no-choice elections as a decoration on that. But now that they cannot manufacture consent, as they are having to now blatantly rig the election, they will end up having to impose martial law.
Both blatant election rigging and martial law are openly authoritarian actions.And so therefore…. the era of manufacturing consent has reached an end in the US.
What’s ahead? Well already you see what the extremists are doing in the US as a response to cutting Trump off the ballot:
“ Bomb scares force evacuation of multiple state capitols amid MAGA death threats in Colorado and Maine..”…..“The bomb threats came after a wave of false reports of shootings at the homes of public officials in recent days. Three months ago, US Attorney General Merrick Garland said government workers had seen an “astounding” number of threats in recent months….The bomb threats and evacuations also came less than two weeks before the first presidential nomination contest of the 2024 election cycle, the Iowa caucuses on January 15, and three days before the third anniversary of Trump’s attempted coup in 2021…..”
One lens is to look at what Agamben says about the “State of Exception”, and a resulting death loop of ever-escalating brutality upon the masses:
If they cannot manufacture consent, they will now beat everyone into consenting. Presumably, thereafter, President for life Biden will no longer feel the need to call Xi Jinping an “authoritarian”.
His point is that it wasn’t even yet “Iran” back then. So Iran has never invaded anyone. And its predecessors have not either in a couple of centuries.
Never invaded would a bit of stretch I guess. They were moving in and out of neighboring lands through out history. Our history books say that they were respectful of the diversity of ethnicities and religions. Greek's history sees it completely differently. So who knows really...
Meanwhile we are in for some hard times, since so many of us continue to condone, if not worship, sociopathic leaders and bigdeals. It is necessary to dredge the depths of the Bible to find phraseology which accords adequately with the situation -- the blind leading the blind, so that both fall into a ditch, the abomination of slaughtering children in order to worship the gods of money and power. Or the Book of Changes, which advises: "Walking in blood. Get out of the pit." Unfortunately the sociopaths will not go quietly; one must expect them to impart a great deal of misery and privation as they go down, and not just for their present victims.
Required to reach a better form of social governance yes.
But I would not so quickly rule out that the immediate next stage is actually a lower level of concsciouness by the “leaders” - and their practicing an even WORSE form of governance, in which far more brutal tactics, are applied in place of today’s theatrics and gaslighting.
Gaza and Ukraine could be more like a preview of what’s coming at home, than an outlier event then.
So well put-- however-- there will always be Strength in Numbers!
The poor and working classes-- need to figure out a way to educate ourselves-- without letting violence take over-- personally I’m not ready for the pills scenario-- I doubt the POWERS that be contingent would ever let Cornel West or anyone else who truly intended to lead a NON Violent Rebellion/Revolution!
Honestly-- you’re Comment says it best: “a different level of consciousness
Netanyahu only cares about his survival and the only option he has left is to double down and bring Hezb and Iran into the war - and drag America and the West into an active rather than passive role. They’ve been trying to goad Hezb into a response for months. The term ‘off ramp’ is so 2022...
Remember Israel's goal has always been to gain control of what they call Greater Palestine which covers about 5? nations! It expects the US to jump in and support this venture as control of the Arab State's oil fields and waterways is critical to US interests as to Israel's. And then we have the memory of Israel creating a false flag operation by attacking the US Liberty to try and drag the US into a war with Egypt. To the shame of the US it never even criticized Israel for that murderous strike against a military vessel, killing many and wounding many more. That episode was archived in the documentary made by the survivors of that horror. It is available still to watch, probably on Youtube.
The terrorist US regime pretends that they want to protect trade in the region - but in fact it suits the outlook of many of them - the far right Christians, the rogue militias, the America First types - to reduce the entire rest of the world to rubble, to remove all competition and threat, so they can retreat to their fantasy of an isolationist, separatist, anarchic, self sufficient paradise.
The Yemenis are actually doing what decency from the international community would require: condemnation and effective sanctions on the state that is breaching international conventions of human rights.
And the Yemenis would know: they are the ones who were subjected to genocidal levels of bombing and destruction by the Saudis, who for their part were not sanctioned by the west. No, in fact the west ALL profited greatly by selling MORE weapons and ammunitions to the Saudis for the direct purpose of bombing killing defenceless Yemeni civilians, en masse.
It is only trade that benefits the US and is controlled by that State. Trade for others is seen as terrorism or communism or whatever ad hominem or gas lighting can be used to attack such self-sufficiency of others.
We all need to remember that there are 3 pages of politicians who have taken money from Israel and profit from the policies that they make for it. There are also a large number of these politicians who have "Dual Citizenship" with Israel! There isn't any way this is legal as they are criminals who made laws to legalize their crimes!
I think there is a difference between the ruling class which establishes policypractice and the people who can be divided and often lack compassion or insight into themselves as well as those they rail against. We need to differentiate those with the power from those who have none.
This falls in line with the way We The People have been coerced into including those Criminal Elite into "We". They use it every time when they need us to do something bad against us! It is always then "We" are doing this etc. They even use it when attacking other countries as in "US Interest" which are definitely not the peoples interest.
Any young person who would go and fight in the Middle East, not for the defense of our country, but for another country's greed, sadly lacks information re what is really going on in the world. They would only be rewarded with permanent disabilities, or get killed.
The "Nobody of influence" won't be going to war. It is the young people who might sign up to go and fight that I was referring to as lacking information on reality.
Of course. Hermann Goering had some practical insight into the matter, and this is what he told Gustave Gilbert while he cooled off in his prison cell:
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We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
I am struck by the irony that the US threatens a country or people (Houthi's) for doing what it always does--impose sanctions and interrupt economic functioning. That is what BDS is all about and the US passes laws making such movements illegal while ignoring the issue of free speech and that 'strikes' against corporations is an old and respected form of protest against inhumane abuse whether on the job or on the international scene. Such is American exceptionalism which sorely deserves to be confronted and bested.
The blood drinkers want WW3 : This is what they want. Also, do you remember General Wesley Clark comment about war in the Middle East. The last country was Iran.
¨So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran."
General Wesley Clark Wars Were Planned Seven Countries In Five Years 2:12 min
I think there are some in powerful positions who have been agitating for war with Iran for decades--but others with better sense, even if no moral values, who have prev ailed so far. I think it's the Israelis trying to goad Iran and th US into war. Israel is like that skinny kid on the beach, kicking and into bigger men's faces, because his retarded but huge big brother will defend him if they retaliate.
W.W.4 (FOUR!). The Cold War (including Korea, Vietnam, etc.) is W.W.3, or is considered to be such by the neoliberal/cons, and is still going on (I have to agree with people that it never ended). So, unless a world war via Iran were "simply" to be a continuation of W.W.3, it will actually be W.W.4. And, if it happens, it will likely be the war to end all wars because humanity will mostly be annihilated, with the rest slowly or not so slowly dying from the results.. This is what the Satanic madmen and madwomen have always wanted, a global conflagration that will consume most of us in one foul swoop (those of us left after the "vaccine" neo-holocaust). This is the way for the Ashkenazim "Jews" who run the whole global(ism) enslavement "show" to get rid of all the "goy" (non-Ashkenazim) in that one foul swoop. That is what they want, for only a select number of them to "inherit the Earth", and only 300 to 500 million cyborgs to act as their servants and slaves. "Science 'Fiction'" in real life, and more like the horror form of it. They now have smaller nukes to take out entire areas while leaving that around it mostly untouched, and with less spreading fallout. The psychopaths are in complete control now on the earthly stage, but God is far more powerful than their god, Satan/Lucifer, and He is ultimately in complete control. So, God's will be done!
Natanyahu has told the US to invade Iran. You can bet AIPAC is busy making phone calls and cutting a new round of checks. There will be a "terrorist" incident engineered by Mossad or Mossad/CIA to panic Americans to war, just like we saw with 9/11. This nation is bought. We are a vassal state of Israel.
Why hasn't anyone apparently sought impeachment of Biden, particularly since he made it so obvious that he supports "Israehell's" genocide being carried out in Israel and Palestine, and that he is aiding and abetting it? Why is Biden supposedly "untouchable" when it comes to impeachment? Or are there rumblings about it that I haven't yet heard? By the foregoing Biden has perpetrated crimes against the peace, and supported crimes against humanity and war crimes. He has allowed, promoted and supported the wholesale genocide in Gaza, and is preventing the U.S. and global genocide via the scamdemic and the "vaccines" from being stopped, and he gets away with it?! I know the U.S. and the Western governments are far-gone, but this proves that they are more far-gone than ever. This mass-murderous cretin, Biden, needs to be impeached immediately, forthwith!
Heck, look at who most of Biden's cabinet is made up of; again, Ashkenazim. Who has run the CIA since its inception; Ashkenazim. And they don't have the best interests of the U.S. and the world at heart. Israeli government officials have admitted that they believe ALL "goy" (non-Ashkenazim) must be eradicated, not just the Palestinians and other Muslims. They hate the U.S. while gladly taking billions upon billions of our dollars. After all these many decades it must be up to a trillion dollars by now. All of the Ashkenazim who are against all of this madness, I am with you! All of the same who support what "Israehell" is doing in the Middle East, you should be in the Hague facing aiding and abetting of war crimes, etc., charges along with "Netanpsychopath", "Can't(a)Bide(n)him", et al. What goes around, comes around. It's time for bringing liberty and freedom back around, don't we think?!
I say again there are 3 pages of politicians who have taken money from Israel and profit from the policies that they make for it. There are also a large number of these politicians who are "Dual Citizens" of the US and Israel! Their sole interest is Israel not America. They are in complete control of the US.
Nope, I don't forget that fact in the least. I've long said that we in the U.S. really only have a one-party system, the party of corporate-fascism that's been in charge for a very long time.
Nearly all of Congress is owned by AIPAC, so I don't see him being impeached because of the Gazan genocide, and many Americans seem to still be steeped in 75 years and many layers of Zionist propaganda.
The US backed Israeli terrorists are keen to drag the whole region into war to cover up their crimes. Obviously all the white western powers have allowed the US to threaten / bribe them into compliance. Mercifully none of the Arab countries (except spineless corrupt Bahrain), nor Turkey have joined this desperate armada. Once again the world allows the criminal US regime to bring war and devastation as they sell arms to all sides but take no risk themselves. However, they are so stupid that they do not understand that yet more military action against Arab states will only make the situation worse, probably halting all shipping in the Red Sea, possibly forcing elements in Egypt to threaten the extremely vulnerable Suez Canal and the whole of the Mediterranean, not to mention the easily disrupted oil & gas pipelines. Of course, the US does not give a shit because the trade there does not affect them - it is Europe that will suffer the consequences. It is very difficult to envisage what the Chinese will make of this. And, of course, any disruption to the oil trade - by state or terrorist actions - only helps Russia, and will also hasten the end of US hegemony.
The usa and israel have decimated their country and economy plus all their forces are jabbed more than once the adrenaline rush is causing them sudden deaths and heart issues and confusion no wonder the Israeli army are shooting each other.
What’s a few more thousand dead, to blood-stained, money-worshipping ghouls?
The Israelis are murderous colonial overlords who want a wide ranging war in the middle east to make them more important to the forbes of global war in the US…..and to allow them to unleaash nuclear weapons on the arabs and Iranians.
The west is supposedly says it is fighting a global war ON terrorism……while it is increasingly clear to the entre global south that this is a war OF terrorism waged on the global south by the western Neo-colonial Always war Terrorist Alliance…..aka «NATO».
Since wesley clark this has always been the plan. Iran knows the plan. Assuming they have been very strategic about next steps. They are aware of the carrot and stick.
It is abundantly obvious that Israel intends to goad its American goon and its buttbois into a war on Iran.
Yemen is but one facet of this.
America's wars on Iraq, Syria, and Libya (all at the behest of Israel) were then opening acts.
Feral - no "goading" necessary - Iran has been on the target list for a long time:
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxKn-1S8ts
I said this some weeks ago. Iran is who they want.
Their were seven countries targeted for destruction in the neocon’s PNAC over 20 years ago. Only one remains intact: Iran.
True story.
They needed a Pearl Harbor magnitude event to start the ME destruction. Got it with
9/11. Connect the dots. Dancing Israelis anyone?
Yes.
I didn't know this but I did know it!
For the low low cost of what 15 trillions and a few thousand American lives...and unknown numbers of people in these countries, but who cares about them. Also making European countries lean far right ..due to forced migration of refugees.
Had to inject this in here so more people could see it.
https://www.betterworld.info/conflict-regions/israel-palestine/boycott-divestment-sanctions-bds/boycott-israeli-goods
The BOYCOTT of ISRAELI GOODS - Consumer's Guide to Brands and Labels to Boycott
The BDS movement is in the spotlight again after the eruption of the ongoing Israel-Hamas war which started on October 7, 2023. Israels response to the Hamas terrorist attack has consisted of relentless indiscriminatory airstrikes and now a huge ground offensive.
Are you also calling it the Israel-Hamas war?
That's a deliberate misnomer the Israeli regime and its western lackeys use to obfuscate the truth, it's the Israeli Gaza seige.
A war implies two peer or near peer adversaries. This is certainly not that, not even close.
I don't even know what you are referring to that you would come up with that question. I see it basically as a genocide. They say they are after Hamas but one wouldn't know it from all the death and destruction in Gaza. The destruction of their hospitals, the lack of food and producing conditions that will predispose them to infections of all kinds, not to some 22 thousand dead Palestinians.
If you look closely across Europe, this is what every major digital media, newspaper and TV outlet is doing. They are selling the people a barrage of messages about a mythical “Israel-Hamas” war as a diversion when in fact they should be telling the European public that there is a massacre - genocide - going on in which European countries are supporting Israel’s murder of 30,000 palestinian people 755 of which are women and children.
It is not a war, it is the new Holocaust.
Good.
Thank you for linking.
Hi Jenny
And it’s increasingly appearing that Iran is whom they’ll GET.
According to US Marine/ intelligence officer ( and my main crush 😉) Scott Ritter, Iran has 10k precision missile aimed at IsraHell. IsraHell could drop a nuke on Iran, but Iran could still obliterate IsraHell.
Hey, if that what it takes…
***Pure* *SWAG***, but I suspect that Israel knows that as American power declines, the window of opportunity to use America to eliminate Iran is closing.
Exactly...agree that there was a bit of need to push this sooner than later.
{...as American power declines...}
The day and hour that happens, the Zionists occupying Palestine will see their doomsday clock start ticking. Their model has not even 24 hrs. on the dial.
Maybe ...or there is another sugar daddy lined up. The current situation has probably made. China unlikely.
I suspect you meant "to eliminate Gaza."
Sorry, to "eliminate Iran".
Bad kitty!
Gypsy darling...hi.
It's getting too close for comfort here in Europe!
Hi right back Jenny!
I live between two manufacturing cities here in Michigan. I probably won’t get vaporized, but will wish I had!
Laughing. I have collected a bunch of pills over the years! Good sleep will be fine.
Good plan Jenny!
I take a drug called quetiapine to sleep, and I make sure I always have a full bottle…my MD brother calls it a “ major tranquilizer “. I’m sure it’ll do the job, since I’m not inclined to blow my head off with my revolver 😉
The westly Clark thing..
They didn't get away with it as they hoped.. Now its obsesion and to the point of self destruction like how a serial killer can't get it's next high without escalating it till they are caught or dead.
The American government is in on it - not being «goaded».
But this is a new level of crazy. Previously the US has been using smaller countries as attack dogs: Ukraine, etc. What happens when the US unleashes a nuclear-armed proxy that is led by extremist zionist «jihadis»?
The world cannot afford to indulge this madness.
"US Secretary of State Blinken to visit nine countries as Israel’s war on Gaza widens to Lebanon and threatens to engulf region." What do you think Feral of sending a neocon SOB like Blinken on a tour of nine countries to calm things down. People don't recognize that our middle eastern wars were driven my a neocon agenda, and before we went into Afghanistan there were seven countries on our hit list. I wonder if this is not more of the same. I wonder if we don't want to bring down these countries we claim we want to reassure, like Iran, Lebanon etc. If this SOB wanted to calm things down then no more weapons for Netanyahu, for Israel and the people of Israel implementing the death and destruction of the Palestinians. What propaganda BS!! If you ask me another good reason may be that Biden is so low in the poles the old SOB can tie his shoe laces without bending down.
Blinken isn't going to calm anything down but to engage other countries to join in or to threaten them to step aside.
I'm really afraid this is going to escalate into multiple wars as it did in the Middle East. The neocon's shifted their allegiance to the democrats during the Trump years, and neocons like Blinken and Nuland are part of this administration, as well as others. It seems hard to believe Israel didn't know of the impending attack by Hamas, let it happen, and was going to use it as an opportunity to implement a genocide in Gaza. If they knew, the US knew it as well. I'm sure the US is going to use it to further their own political agenda, which means more war. That makes more sense to me then anything else. The US State Department, Mathew Miller. has the nerve to say he doesn't see a genocide going on. When you look at our Middle Eastern wars, their willingness to lie, to push obvious BS, and they got away with it, and the mainstream media backed them, just as they are doing now for Israel.
I am not now, nor have I ever been a "9/11 Truther". I express no opinion regarding whether or under what circumstances a kerosene-fueled fire can weaken steel.
BUT I will say that 9/11 proved hella convenient to those who sought war abroad and a crackdown on dissent at home.
To give an example, before 9/11, anything like the so-called "Patriot Act" would have been a non-starter. As a Senator, Biden sponsored something similar in the 1990s and his proposal sank like a bad joke. On 9/12, Americans could not surrender their civil liberties fast enough.
For that matter, the same CIA and FBI who had no clue about 9/11 suddenly rushed to assure us that Iraq was just chock-a-block with WMDs. You may recall that Senator Biden was one of the chief congressional architects of that particular war of aggression.
I was very active in the anti-war movement, and even saw Scott Ritter in person making the claim there were no weapons of mass destruction before the war. I never believed any of it, and saw Westley Clark acknowledge that before we went into Afghanistan we had seven countries on our hit list. I feel what is going on now is more of the same. I didn't get into the 9/11 stuff either, but if someone said we did it, and provided some proof, no problem in believing them, not when the Project for a New American Century with Cheney as one of it's primary signatories claimed all we need to carry out their agenda in the Middle East was a New Pearl Harbor. Well, what a coincidence. Biden was an aggressor of all our Middle Eastern wars and used his position in the Senate to push everyone of them. Do you remember his claiming he opposed the Iraq war? What is so disturbing is the US claim which Matthew Miller made recently, like yesterday, no evidence of a genocide in Gaza. They obviously believe we are all idiots.
I believe a man named "Goebbels" said something about a "big lie". I also recall that this "Goebbels" fellow had some practical experience in such matters.
The lies we tell. "Former German Chancellor Merkel admits the Minsk agreement was merely to buy time for Ukraine’s arms build-up."
Feral,
A longish response
There seems to be no doubt at all that the US is going to be told by Israel to fulfil the permanent role of providing "Israel’s back”, also known as the military and financial support for a very ambitious Israeli "Eretz Israel” operation, also known as “from the river to the sea”, the Euphrates to the Nile. This will then see the power of US firepower against Hezbollah and Iran and probably Yemen as well, even though not one of those countries is even close to being a threat to even one American life, near any part of the US mainland nor a threat to US national security in any way at all. The objective of this Israeli initiated war will be to assist in the elimination of all Israel’s list of clearly stated enemies in the Middle East, allowing Israel with 400 nuclear warheads to totally control that part of the Globe and then to assume the role of regional hegemonic leader, just as the US is trying to be the undisputed ruler of the rest of the world, its favourite weapon being the Veto in the UN Security Council, as the world has seen used to its selfish advantage for almost 75 years.
A joint effort for total control, with the elimination of all Arab nations as the eventual long term objective.
I find some mirthless humor in the possibility that in the event of an attack on Iran, Vladimir Putin's Russian regime may come to the aid of Khamenei in an alliance against Israel and the US (and NATO.) Putin may conclude that Russia cannot afford the geopolitical consequences of an Iranian military defeat. And next thing you know, we're all in a theater-wide state of war of opposing alliances that both possess enough atomic weapons to destroy planetary civilization- or Western civilization, Iran, and Russia, anyway.
This leaves Xi Jinping's China as the adults in the room, for better or worse. I don't care for the way Xi and the CCP govern the PRC, but internal affairs are Chinese business, and I find no compelling reason for the US to actively interfere at that level. In terms of global economy, at least the Chinese have the sense to realize how bad War is for their international position, and for the business of global trade. Unlike the US, the Chinese haven't taken to relying on an arms as an export industry to inflate their GDP. The Chinese aren't deluded. Unlike the leadership of both parties in the US, whose capacity for self-delusion appears limitless.
At least to outward appearances, Xi and the CCP appear to have a sober understanding of the fact that the use of nuclear weapons- even "tactical" nukes- constitutes a potentially catastrophic escalation in the history of War on the planet, and a grave hazard for children and other living things. Unlike the militarist fanatic factions of end-times Christians, ethnocentric Zionists, and apocalyptic Islamists. And I make note of that vexing state of affairs as a Christian, despite the fact that it's a situation most often brought up by the atheists in the conversation.
I'm wary of counterfactual scenarios; they're exercises of imagination. Hypotheses, not evidence. And as far as I know, the Putin regime in Russia has shown no more interest in active military intervention on behalf of the Gaza Palestinians than the Arab regimes in the region. So, like, zero.
If Netanyahu expands the war into Lebanon to an extent that threatens Syria and Iran, that's different. Putin may feel the need to actively intervene on their side despite the fact that Russian military forces are already committed in Ukraine. Other than a few signal intelligence stations in nations along their southern border, Russia's only foreign military base is their naval base in Aleppo, Syria. The Russians have been aiding the Assad regime against the fractious non-coalition of Arabs (mostly represented on the battlefront by al-Nusra) and Kurdish nationalists since the outbreak of the rebellion against Assad. The Syrian Arabs and Kurds (both Sunni) refuse to form a common alliance against Assad's ruling faction (Allawite, quasi-Shi'ite) despite expensive efforts by the US to encourage that coalition. (That's been one of the main goals of US Special Forces "training and assistance" units still somehow stationed in hostile Syria, and thus far a miserable failure...only someone falling for ISW snake oil could believe that such an alliance could be facilitated by Americans, instead of the locals themselves, duh. Anyway, I guess the Green Berets still get on with the Kurds, mostly, kinda sorta, up to a point.)
The Syria situation has of course been complicated by the Islamic State, a pack of opportunistic nihilist criminals who are exceedingly unpopular with everyone except for whoever keeps funding them and arming them to account for their mysterious persistence as a fighting force and "player" in Syria and Iraq, years after they were supposedly resoundingly eradicated on the battlefield in both countries. It's the alleged continuing presence of Daesh- the IS- that has supposedly justified the continuing presence of American forward infantry bases in both Iraq and Syria (?) It's worth noting that only last week the Iraqi Parliament has passed a resolution in favor of expelling the US troop presence from Iraq. It remains to be seen whether the US government will ignore this move the same way they ignored a similar resolution passed years ago in the aftermath of the US assassination of Gen. Qassem Suleimani on Iraqi soil, where he and his Quds forces were official guests of the Iraqi government. It's enough to lead one to wonder who really runs the country.
Then there are the US bases in the far reaches of eastern and southern Syria, which supposedly "protect Syrian oil fields from IS takeover" despite the plain fact that the US is engaged in a proxy war to overthrow the Assad regime.
The Ukro-Russian War has also drawn Iran and Russia closer together. If the US had followed up on the multiple opportunities to settle Russian national security concerns in regard to EU markets and NATO bases encroaching on the western borders of Russia prior to 2022, it's likely that the Russian invasion would have been obviated, and Ukrainian national sovereignty could have been preserved. The resolution of that problem in turn would have provided enough of a common ground between Russia and the US that the Russians would have felt no need to be threatened by a regime change in Iran toward a non-theocratic government seeking friendly relations with the West. https://www.cato.org/commentary/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it#
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/there-could-have-been-peace-how-the-u-s-ensured-a-long-war-in-ukraine/
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/its-unanimous-ukrainian-neutrality-could-have-brought-peace/
However, given the recent turn of events in Ukraine, there's no way that Russia could view the prospect of a West-friendly Iranian regime as anything other than part of a process of geographic encirclement, and hence a dire existential threat to Russian national security.
There's no innate societal or ideological reason why the Russia of Putin would feel any kinship with Khamenei's Shi'ite theocracy. But the increasing pressure from the US/UK/NATO--functionally allied with Israel--is pushing Russia and Iran closer and closer together in a partnership that may lead to an overt military alliance- including the prospect of Russian units and aircraft on the ground in Iran. A substantial number of Russian military forces are already committed to a battlefield and occupation duties in eastern Ukraine, of course. But Russia's a big country. And also a country that includes a large multi-ethnic Muslim population, presumably including a readiness to train, live, and fight alongside their co-religionists in the event of hostilities that might extend into Iran, Iraq, and/or Syria. (I wonder if US think-tanks like Brookings or the ISW have produced any "studies" looking into that possibility.)
Counterfactual scenarios are nonetheless hypotheses, and not to be confused with evidence. They are by definition conjectures about the past constructed in the absence of evidence- based on what didn't happen- or they wouldn't be counterfactual.
I doubt that I'll ever buy into an Appeal To Authority based on an AI program, no matter how advanced it's touted to be. Either as a position statement, or as supplemental factual support.
Frankly, I'm alarmed that you- or anyone- could be that trusting.
"And all for land, money and geostrategic control, same as always." Does the US know anyanything else?
A swift glance at the history of a nation, the "greatness" of which was built on the genocide of 7.5 million of the indigenous population of its subcontinent, coupled with the enslavement of 14.5 million of the populace of another continent, and still somehow imagines itself to be the moral guardian of the world, kind of indicates it would be unwise to expect anything better of it.
"moral guardian of the world"??? No wonder we are in such a mess
You'll be glad to know most of us aren't buying it. I knew that story was a fairy tale when I was a kid. The very fact we killed the Indians told me we were not to be trusted, now I'm not saying some don't hold on to that bit of trash and believe it, but I know a lot of people don't.
I never thought most Americans buy that "moral guardian" crap, but the American government and several other western governments use that line so that they can justify all the wars they foment.
I think most Americans are just trying to get by, like the many in most countries. Americans are really subjected to a lot of propaganda, especially the older ones who rely on the mainstream media in all it's forms. Now younger people go to the computer and get a broader perspective, a more honest perspective on things. The younger people are speaking up and many are marching against the genocide Israel is implementing in Gaza. I wonder if the Israeli's are doing the same. Biden is really low in the poles, which says people are paying attention. Bottom line, Americans like everyone else are just people, no better, no worse. and they know it.
Americans are too gullible and don't demand any recourse for their government's misdeeds. I wouldn't just dismiss it as "people just getting by".
They are complicit by not demanding accountability for repeated crimes committed by their govt in their name.
Nope.
The younger people in Western countries go on the computer to “social media”, which is their #1 source of news. There they get fed customised streams of propaganda and lies by these companies algorithms, overseen by these companies “consultation” and “Advice” from the “disinformation” agencies aka miinstry of propaganda, in the US and EU.
Let me add Biden is so low in in the poles I don't think he's going to run, I mean run for office, and I doubt his weed smoking buddy has a chance.
Amazing as well as morally disgusting.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. has not observed acts in Gaza that constitute genocide, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said on Wednesday, after South Africa launched genocide proceedings at the International Court of Justice over Israel's military operation in the Palestinian enclave.
"Those are allegations that should not be made lightly ... we are not seeing any acts that constitute genocide," Miller said at a regular news briefing. "That is a determination by the State Department," he added.
What a liar
They should play back what they said about Ukraine/Putin...when Putin killed fewer civilians
No
Well .all that may not matter much when the economy is hollowed out and the debt is piled high that interest payments take up most of the taxes. Our overreach will bankrupt us ..and all that for the benefit of some other country. Do we really care who runs Syria
"And all for land, money and geostrategic control, same as always."
This is a crisis of modern consciousness. As an Iranian scanning the politics for decades, the Iranian government is infected by the same consciousness of power, control, greed. They weaponize Islam. Zionists weaponize Judaism and the trauma of holocaust, West in general weaponizes freedom, equality, rights etc... It is all the same fractal pattern, which has always been there throughout human history, yet now it seems to be at its peak, as in this age it can source energy from millions of good hearted people's votes and taxes. I call it modern, as utilizing the 'sacred' towards material (political, economical) goals is an essential part of the modern consciousness.
But also it would not be fair to put Iranian government completely in the same plate, as they do not have the pattern of invading and colonizing others for the past centuries. The anti-dote to it would be a whole different level of consciousness, starting with education and human development, which no one is giving priority to. A new consciousness would need a new understanding of the 'sacred' orders. The work of Mercea Eliade, The Sacred and The Profane opens many doors, at least to figure out where to begin with.
I am sharing this as many people are habitually searching for a political solution for it all. Political solutions will mostly remain part of the problem and contribute to the complexity, as they do not arise from a different level of consciousness.
thanks Kamyar - the most ludicrous justification for the US terrorist actions is the promotion of "Democracy" when their political system is now totally corrupt, basically a one party sate with 2 wings, identical apart from the colour of their banners. I think part of the reason they hate China and other one-party states so much is that they are jealous that they don't have to waste so much time and money on fake elections. The US corporate state would love to do away with elections altogether.
I am not sure if they would want to get rid of elections. Representative democracy is really working well for them, and they can keep using 'democracy' and 'freedom' as a shield to protect the real value system, which is greed, control and power. But I see your point in total corruption.
They want to do away with anything remotely like a competitive election. But it’s not possible for them to do that without provoking another “January 6” or worse.
And that’s going to be a catastrophe. But then again these are authoritarians anyway, and they probably view it as an opportunity.
Read Agamben: “State of Emergency”, to see where this has been headed, and where it ends up.
They ARE doing away with the 2024 election already.
The Dems are basically eliminering primaries, after wikileaks espoused the sham they did with Bernie last time around.
The Dems are also using the DOJ and state courts to remove Trump from the 2024 election ballot.
What they dont seem to have accounted for, is after they tip the scales on this election, turning it into a scam…….how are they going to cope with an inevitable backlash from the GOP faithful who react to an obviously illegitimate and sham election.
As usual they dont think.
I suspect these fools will end up precipitating the kind of national state of emergency that often results from rigged election in third world nations - which is what the US is sliding down to.
From the Team D perspective, what matters is winning. Doesn't matter if the elections are full-on banana republic, as long as they win and get the goodies that come with winning.
Its going to be difficult to “win” i.e (gain power under the facade of “democracy”)….by holding a sham election that everyone around the world views as rigged, turning the country into a garrison state held together by troops on the street pointing guns and the the infamous bayonets on their own people.
And indeed BOTH the Dems and GOP have been stocking up for this for a very long time:
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/nov/02/military-gives-bayonets-to-cops-after-inquiry/
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/09/01/why-do-cops-need-bayonets
https://qz.com/406891/obama-will-will-no-longer-give-us-cops-bayonets-weaponized-aircrafts-and-grenade-launchers
https://blackagendareport.com/obama-bogus-reform-on-militarized-police
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1B81VS/
Nobody said that such methods are ideal, but if that's the only way to retain power, then that's what they'll use.
I didnt say you said anything about “ideal”.
What I am saying is that problem they now have, is that they have been manufacturing consent with these sham elections, while operating an oligarchy in which they actually do what the few billionaires want:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B
They reel off these no-choice elections as a decoration on that. But now that they cannot manufacture consent, as they are having to now blatantly rig the election, they will end up having to impose martial law.
Both blatant election rigging and martial law are openly authoritarian actions.And so therefore…. the era of manufacturing consent has reached an end in the US.
What’s ahead? Well already you see what the extremists are doing in the US as a response to cutting Trump off the ballot:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/01/04/armv-j04.html
By Barry Grey, 17 hours ago
“ Bomb scares force evacuation of multiple state capitols amid MAGA death threats in Colorado and Maine..”…..“The bomb threats came after a wave of false reports of shootings at the homes of public officials in recent days. Three months ago, US Attorney General Merrick Garland said government workers had seen an “astounding” number of threats in recent months….The bomb threats and evacuations also came less than two weeks before the first presidential nomination contest of the 2024 election cycle, the Iowa caucuses on January 15, and three days before the third anniversary of Trump’s attempted coup in 2021…..”
One lens is to look at what Agamben says about the “State of Exception”, and a resulting death loop of ever-escalating brutality upon the masses:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_exception
If they cannot manufacture consent, they will now beat everyone into consenting. Presumably, thereafter, President for life Biden will no longer feel the need to call Xi Jinping an “authoritarian”.
The last time Iran invaded another country it was "Persia" and the year was something like 1798.
Compare the track record of the peace-loving United States since that time.
It is even funny, because Iran is Persia!
His point is that it wasn’t even yet “Iran” back then. So Iran has never invaded anyone. And its predecessors have not either in a couple of centuries.
Never invaded would a bit of stretch I guess. They were moving in and out of neighboring lands through out history. Our history books say that they were respectful of the diversity of ethnicities and religions. Greek's history sees it completely differently. So who knows really...
If you have to go back to Xenophon to make your case, that, well, sort of proves my point.
Utterly irrelevant today.
The U.S. and NATO are the current eras menace to life and limb, either directly or via their proxies.
You are just now being deliberately dense. 🤷♂️
In the the long term, yes, a change of consciousness is required.
Meanwhile we are in for some hard times, since so many of us continue to condone, if not worship, sociopathic leaders and bigdeals. It is necessary to dredge the depths of the Bible to find phraseology which accords adequately with the situation -- the blind leading the blind, so that both fall into a ditch, the abomination of slaughtering children in order to worship the gods of money and power. Or the Book of Changes, which advises: "Walking in blood. Get out of the pit." Unfortunately the sociopaths will not go quietly; one must expect them to impart a great deal of misery and privation as they go down, and not just for their present victims.
Precisely - right on the money there!
Required to reach a better form of social governance yes.
But I would not so quickly rule out that the immediate next stage is actually a lower level of concsciouness by the “leaders” - and their practicing an even WORSE form of governance, in which far more brutal tactics, are applied in place of today’s theatrics and gaslighting.
Gaza and Ukraine could be more like a preview of what’s coming at home, than an outlier event then.
Kamyar. Well said.
I think of 'peace' most of the time especially when I'm cooking. I think the evening is the quiet time for this.
So well put-- however-- there will always be Strength in Numbers!
The poor and working classes-- need to figure out a way to educate ourselves-- without letting violence take over-- personally I’m not ready for the pills scenario-- I doubt the POWERS that be contingent would ever let Cornel West or anyone else who truly intended to lead a NON Violent Rebellion/Revolution!
Honestly-- you’re Comment says it best: “a different level of consciousness
Netanyahu only cares about his survival and the only option he has left is to double down and bring Hezb and Iran into the war - and drag America and the West into an active rather than passive role. They’ve been trying to goad Hezb into a response for months. The term ‘off ramp’ is so 2022...
Remember Israel's goal has always been to gain control of what they call Greater Palestine which covers about 5? nations! It expects the US to jump in and support this venture as control of the Arab State's oil fields and waterways is critical to US interests as to Israel's. And then we have the memory of Israel creating a false flag operation by attacking the US Liberty to try and drag the US into a war with Egypt. To the shame of the US it never even criticized Israel for that murderous strike against a military vessel, killing many and wounding many more. That episode was archived in the documentary made by the survivors of that horror. It is available still to watch, probably on Youtube.
The terrorist US regime pretends that they want to protect trade in the region - but in fact it suits the outlook of many of them - the far right Christians, the rogue militias, the America First types - to reduce the entire rest of the world to rubble, to remove all competition and threat, so they can retreat to their fantasy of an isolationist, separatist, anarchic, self sufficient paradise.
If trade was so holy and sacrosanct, they wouldn't be imposing blockades and sanction a third of the world's countries.
Exactly.
The Yemenis are actually doing what decency from the international community would require: condemnation and effective sanctions on the state that is breaching international conventions of human rights.
And the Yemenis would know: they are the ones who were subjected to genocidal levels of bombing and destruction by the Saudis, who for their part were not sanctioned by the west. No, in fact the west ALL profited greatly by selling MORE weapons and ammunitions to the Saudis for the direct purpose of bombing killing defenceless Yemeni civilians, en masse.
It is only trade that benefits the US and is controlled by that State. Trade for others is seen as terrorism or communism or whatever ad hominem or gas lighting can be used to attack such self-sufficiency of others.
We all need to remember that there are 3 pages of politicians who have taken money from Israel and profit from the policies that they make for it. There are also a large number of these politicians who have "Dual Citizenship" with Israel! There isn't any way this is legal as they are criminals who made laws to legalize their crimes!
I think there is a difference between the ruling class which establishes policypractice and the people who can be divided and often lack compassion or insight into themselves as well as those they rail against. We need to differentiate those with the power from those who have none.
This falls in line with the way We The People have been coerced into including those Criminal Elite into "We". They use it every time when they need us to do something bad against us! It is always then "We" are doing this etc. They even use it when attacking other countries as in "US Interest" which are definitely not the peoples interest.
I think there land you refer to is what the Zionists and religious zealots call Greater Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
What's the name of the documentary that you speak of?
Any young person who would go and fight in the Middle East, not for the defense of our country, but for another country's greed, sadly lacks information re what is really going on in the world. They would only be rewarded with permanent disabilities, or get killed.
Nobody of influence and authority cares. They and their kids won't be going, they'll just be cashing fat dividend checks.
The "Nobody of influence" won't be going to war. It is the young people who might sign up to go and fight that I was referring to as lacking information on reality.
Of course. Hermann Goering had some practical insight into the matter, and this is what he told Gustave Gilbert while he cooled off in his prison cell:
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We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
https://www.mit.edu/people/fuller/peace/war_goering.html
That last sentence is most instructive.
Gallows honesty from Goehring.
Young poor people.
Hezb Allah is backed by Iran and Iran is heavily infested with so called crypto-Jews in highest political and military positions. Cui bono ??
What in the world are crypto Jews?
I am struck by the irony that the US threatens a country or people (Houthi's) for doing what it always does--impose sanctions and interrupt economic functioning. That is what BDS is all about and the US passes laws making such movements illegal while ignoring the issue of free speech and that 'strikes' against corporations is an old and respected form of protest against inhumane abuse whether on the job or on the international scene. Such is American exceptionalism which sorely deserves to be confronted and bested.
Tony Blair's getting involved so you know a war is on the horizon!
especially when he denies it!
Is Ireland the only anglophone/European/western country with any morality?
Sarah, YES!
go cinntitheach TÁ!!
The blood drinkers want WW3 : This is what they want. Also, do you remember General Wesley Clark comment about war in the Middle East. The last country was Iran.
¨So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran."
General Wesley Clark Wars Were Planned Seven Countries In Five Years 2:12 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNt7s_Wed_4
General Clark on the Iraq Invasion | American War Generals 2:59 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcWs4TFSjrY
I recall some Bush-era neocon saying that "everyone wants to go to Baghdad, but real men want to go to Tehran."
The US is seeking war on any pretext.
I think there are some in powerful positions who have been agitating for war with Iran for decades--but others with better sense, even if no moral values, who have prev ailed so far. I think it's the Israelis trying to goad Iran and th US into war. Israel is like that skinny kid on the beach, kicking and into bigger men's faces, because his retarded but huge big brother will defend him if they retaliate.
Well, those seeking war on any pretext have never been closer to getting their wish.
Excellent for business .pentagon loses trillions
W.W.4 (FOUR!). The Cold War (including Korea, Vietnam, etc.) is W.W.3, or is considered to be such by the neoliberal/cons, and is still going on (I have to agree with people that it never ended). So, unless a world war via Iran were "simply" to be a continuation of W.W.3, it will actually be W.W.4. And, if it happens, it will likely be the war to end all wars because humanity will mostly be annihilated, with the rest slowly or not so slowly dying from the results.. This is what the Satanic madmen and madwomen have always wanted, a global conflagration that will consume most of us in one foul swoop (those of us left after the "vaccine" neo-holocaust). This is the way for the Ashkenazim "Jews" who run the whole global(ism) enslavement "show" to get rid of all the "goy" (non-Ashkenazim) in that one foul swoop. That is what they want, for only a select number of them to "inherit the Earth", and only 300 to 500 million cyborgs to act as their servants and slaves. "Science 'Fiction'" in real life, and more like the horror form of it. They now have smaller nukes to take out entire areas while leaving that around it mostly untouched, and with less spreading fallout. The psychopaths are in complete control now on the earthly stage, but God is far more powerful than their god, Satan/Lucifer, and He is ultimately in complete control. So, God's will be done!
Love that handle,
Yours,
A real wolf(e)
"For madmen only"
As I've said elsewhere, thank God that the Truly Sane are "madmen (and women)"!
There are people now walking on planet earth with a lot of inner power olding space to avoid WW3 or 4.
The neocons want WW3...ASAP.
Zio-neonazi-cons….
Natanyahu has told the US to invade Iran. You can bet AIPAC is busy making phone calls and cutting a new round of checks. There will be a "terrorist" incident engineered by Mossad or Mossad/CIA to panic Americans to war, just like we saw with 9/11. This nation is bought. We are a vassal state of Israel.
We are being ordered to do the only thing we can do any more, as I illustrated here: https://mark192.substack.com/p/america-summed-up-in-a-quote-a-cartoon?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1730215&post_id=140318113&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=2iji4s&utm_medium=email
If you know any young people, encourage them to watch this interview for a dose of what "serving your country" really looks like: https://youtu.be/7FNDZkjIFCc?si=J4XkByQWCPaM823r
So Spot On!
Why hasn't anyone apparently sought impeachment of Biden, particularly since he made it so obvious that he supports "Israehell's" genocide being carried out in Israel and Palestine, and that he is aiding and abetting it? Why is Biden supposedly "untouchable" when it comes to impeachment? Or are there rumblings about it that I haven't yet heard? By the foregoing Biden has perpetrated crimes against the peace, and supported crimes against humanity and war crimes. He has allowed, promoted and supported the wholesale genocide in Gaza, and is preventing the U.S. and global genocide via the scamdemic and the "vaccines" from being stopped, and he gets away with it?! I know the U.S. and the Western governments are far-gone, but this proves that they are more far-gone than ever. This mass-murderous cretin, Biden, needs to be impeached immediately, forthwith!
Heck, look at who most of Biden's cabinet is made up of; again, Ashkenazim. Who has run the CIA since its inception; Ashkenazim. And they don't have the best interests of the U.S. and the world at heart. Israeli government officials have admitted that they believe ALL "goy" (non-Ashkenazim) must be eradicated, not just the Palestinians and other Muslims. They hate the U.S. while gladly taking billions upon billions of our dollars. After all these many decades it must be up to a trillion dollars by now. All of the Ashkenazim who are against all of this madness, I am with you! All of the same who support what "Israehell" is doing in the Middle East, you should be in the Hague facing aiding and abetting of war crimes, etc., charges along with "Netanpsychopath", "Can't(a)Bide(n)him", et al. What goes around, comes around. It's time for bringing liberty and freedom back around, don't we think?!
I say again there are 3 pages of politicians who have taken money from Israel and profit from the policies that they make for it. There are also a large number of these politicians who are "Dual Citizens" of the US and Israel! Their sole interest is Israel not America. They are in complete control of the US.
You're not a carbon copy, you're the Original !!👍👍
You forget, the U.S. only has one party..the UniParty. At the end of the day, they're always on the same page.
Nope, I don't forget that fact in the least. I've long said that we in the U.S. really only have a one-party system, the party of corporate-fascism that's been in charge for a very long time.
Nearly all of Congress is owned by AIPAC, so I don't see him being impeached because of the Gazan genocide, and many Americans seem to still be steeped in 75 years and many layers of Zionist propaganda.
I heard yesterday in the French newspapers the Iraqi's are telling the Americans to get out!
They have. But the US ignores it.
This is most instructive.
The problem is they ignore everyone including us Americans! They have been told to get out of Syria also but are still there stealing the oil!
Ages ago
The US backed Israeli terrorists are keen to drag the whole region into war to cover up their crimes. Obviously all the white western powers have allowed the US to threaten / bribe them into compliance. Mercifully none of the Arab countries (except spineless corrupt Bahrain), nor Turkey have joined this desperate armada. Once again the world allows the criminal US regime to bring war and devastation as they sell arms to all sides but take no risk themselves. However, they are so stupid that they do not understand that yet more military action against Arab states will only make the situation worse, probably halting all shipping in the Red Sea, possibly forcing elements in Egypt to threaten the extremely vulnerable Suez Canal and the whole of the Mediterranean, not to mention the easily disrupted oil & gas pipelines. Of course, the US does not give a shit because the trade there does not affect them - it is Europe that will suffer the consequences. It is very difficult to envisage what the Chinese will make of this. And, of course, any disruption to the oil trade - by state or terrorist actions - only helps Russia, and will also hasten the end of US hegemony.
I find it so sad that the Biden administration and all their cohorts have declared war on Europe and the EU and the rest help them continue the war!
The usa and israel have decimated their country and economy plus all their forces are jabbed more than once the adrenaline rush is causing them sudden deaths and heart issues and confusion no wonder the Israeli army are shooting each other.
The US has killed over a million people in wars on arabs and Afghans and Africans:
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/summary
What’s a few more thousand dead, to blood-stained, money-worshipping ghouls?
The Israelis are murderous colonial overlords who want a wide ranging war in the middle east to make them more important to the forbes of global war in the US…..and to allow them to unleaash nuclear weapons on the arabs and Iranians.
The west is supposedly says it is fighting a global war ON terrorism……while it is increasingly clear to the entre global south that this is a war OF terrorism waged on the global south by the western Neo-colonial Always war Terrorist Alliance…..aka «NATO».
North Atlantic TERROR Organization ??
Since wesley clark this has always been the plan. Iran knows the plan. Assuming they have been very strategic about next steps. They are aware of the carrot and stick.