There are plenty of people stupid enough to believe that the Iranian government is committing atrocities made up by Zionists who actually do commit atrocities. An acquaintance told me the other day that Muslims want to kill all of us. Those same people appear blind to the actual atrocities that are being committed in Israel and in the US. I don't know how you write about this stuff most days, Caitlin. I can barely read it sometimes. Still, I am grateful for your words and your perspective. It is really good to know that there is humanity in this world.
I have heard "Muslims want to kill all of us" plus "...the Quran tells them this" too many times. A few weeks ago an email acquaintance wrote a crude, derogatory statement to me about Muslims, oil, and sand. Media has repeatedly hit the populace with such slanderous falsehoods about Muslims and Arabs for decades. If you counter a person's false beliefs with truths, they resist--their minds are hardened, closed.
In some places you get arrested for denouncing Israel. How long before folks will be arrested for speaking positively about Iran?
p.s. Same propaganda vs.fact goes for Russia. Often if one says a positive statement about Russia--in any category, even including music and ballet-- the response includes a head shake and wrinkled nose.
A few centuries ago, so-called Christian Crusaders had the blessings of Catholic popes to slaughter Muslims, Jews, Orthodox Christians, etc., in order to rescue or “save” Jerusalem. Those “holy” Crusaders were free to pillage, loot, rape at their convenience. Most were relatively ignorant but adventurous teenagers or young men in their early twenties, following the orders of older men with various agendas.
Its simple really simple. These haters have never been near a Quran and they would prefer the sheeple to stay away from the Quran. I know many haters who did dare to read the Quran and then convert to Islam. Curiousty killed the cat.
Most people are sheep. Their role is to obey. It appears they have a deep instinctive desire to have designated Bad Guys. If authority designates a new set of Bad Guys they switch immediately. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
I worked for years in camp jobs with mixed work crews. While frowned upon there were sometimes those who would initiate affairs. The odd thing about it was that these ones who would cheat on their spouses in camp were the ones to be accusing their partners of doing the cheating. I can't help but think what an excellent analogy it is of the way a belligerent Israel accuses everyone of being guilty about that which they are so obviously guilty of.
That's the point. This new technology will storm the internet world and set off all kinds of flashpoints. Humans will believe most anything they're told if they believe it comes from a "reliable" source. Here's a case in point with these Israeli generated propaganda movies. It will only get worse from here. Meanwhile. a bunch of tech billionaires will make a lot of money as they laugh at the stupid rubes.
The deep state in collusion with the tech oligarchs in the last few years have flooded the Internet with all sorts of disinformation campaigns, and A.I. is just another branch of that effort. It's not even really about convincing people the AI is real - it's about confusing the general public enough that they can't trust anything they see or read on the Internet. It creates a crisis of information and trust which then can be taken advantage of by unscrupulous individuals pulling the strings.
People who know billionaires say that typically they are good at only one thing. Otherwise they aren't particularly bright or well informed, and they are rubes as easily propagandized as anyone else. Why else would they tolerate their stooges in the government "leading" the nation down down down the drain?
The same goes for members of government, especially elected ones. They don't have to know anything other than how to get elected. Most of them are easily propagandized. Even if they aren't, should they counter the propaganda they would soon be out of a job. This is just the way it is in fascist states.
I knew this day would come--and it has. If you think it's hard now to convince some who have swallowed the propaganda/hasbara whole that what they've heard/seen isn't the truth, think how much harder it will be to even get a word in edgewise once they've been inundated with AI dramas that seem like real life. We're f'ed for sure if we can't shut this sort of AI use down.
The propaganda doesn't have to be factual. It doesn't even have to be believed or believable.
All it has to do is furnish a social permission, to hate the people we are told we are obligated to hate and support the wars that will take place in our name, whether we want them or not.
But what i don't understand is why the global south or the good guys (israel and the west is evil dystopian society or the bad guys) do not use propaganda tools too. Ultimately propaganda is a weapon. One lie is more powerful than 100 truths. What is good for the goose is good for a gander. As they say "don't go to a gunfight with a fork".
Did you ever think that honorable people may have a difficult time lying? They definitely don't have the practice that these scumbags do with acts that are less than reputable.
It's possible that such propaganda is out there but completely excluded from Western media. Iran's Explosive Media was banned from Youtube when it became too popular. Russia still has Pravda as a propaganda outlet.
Most people are emotional, not logical, so anyone wants to reach the masses they more or less have to use propaganda
2. Because they do not have the cultural ("soft") power to get their narratives accepted. The West is seen as money and success.
Keep in mind the subtext behind this latest propaganda blitz - "Resumption of the war is inevitable and we will do whatever it takes to win, so best's get on the winning side."
Humans are naturally attracted to and identify with bullies and assholes.
Feral you’re so correct. Yesterday I saw an article about a group originating in China that sells videos of animal torture. It gave me nightmares last night.
There IS no hope for “humanity” (ain’t that just an oxymoron?)
Years ago I was shown my afterlife in a dream: it’s just me and other-than-humans. I believe ones that have been abused or died untimely deaths, and of course those I’ve been caretakers of.
Right, Feral. These fuckers seek to create doubt and confusion. Actual fact is declared to be artifice, actual fiction becomes 'truth', repeated ad nauseam by mainstream media.
Americans, Get off your backsides. Start a Revolution, protest, march, riot, start a civil disobedience campaign - you have nothing to lose except your chains. You owe it to the nations that are being victimised to keep you in tinsel and baubles.
Americans are part of the problem. Just saw an interview of an American colonist spouting the same tripe about the land being promised to the jews thousands of years ago and, repeating that old lie that there ever was a Palestine way back, when there it is in really old maps, it's in the bible, Jesus was a Palestinian, many jews converted to Christianity that 's how he got his followers.
The ones now killing Palestinians are the same ones that God banished for breaking His laws, which they continue to do with their acts of cruelty, murder, pillage and rape all against God's laws. So whose laws are they following that the keep up the killing? Can only be the one depicted with horns, hooves and a tail. And they have the audacity to name the land they have stolen after the man God loved for always adhering to His laws-Israel. None of the other tribes were included in that promise. I'm led to believe that the jews calling out zionist israel, are the offspring of the members of the tribe of "Israel" the man who obeyed his God's laws.
Tribeca has a long history of supporting the Zionist entity. Consider the following from an open letter published on the BDS website in 2020.
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We, the undersigned Palestinian rights organizations, filmmakers, other artists, and cultural organizations, call on Tribeca Enterprises to exclude the Jerusalem Film Festival (JFF) from the We Are One film festival. We urge conscientious filmmakers to withdraw if it does not, due to the JFF's blatant complicity in Israel’s human rights violations and its role in art-washing those violations.
Just as for decades with western films the "blue jackets" were presented as heroes and the redskins as savage terrorists, the colonizers as civilizers and the colonized as retrogrades, so with AI the Israelis and mercenaries are presented as liberators and the subjugated and decimated as terrorists.
I don’t care what supposedly wonderful things might be accomplished through the use of AI. AI will NEVER be used for the benefit of the people. It will only be used by the elites and the fascists to manipulate and control all of us, just like the Zionists are doing with AI now to create fake Iran/Muslim atrocity porn.
Might as well go back to the horse and buggy then like the Amish, because AI is used every day when you get on an airline. The problem is social, not material.
I don’t know what you mean when you state that the problem with AI is a “social problem.” My problem is that it appears clear that those who decide how AI will be used are more focused on using it to surveil, scam and control us than to benefit us. I understand that AI is already entrenched in how we do much of our personal business online today. I also understand that AI “could” be used in ways that could benefit ordinary people as well as the corporate Masters of the Universe and our politicians. Unfortunately, I see little evidence that either group is prioritizing elevating our standards of living and improving the quality of our lives.
In my opinion, we need to stop the relentless rush to force AI as quickly as we can into every aspect of our lives, and instead strictly regulate how this potentially existence-threatening technology is used going forward.
All the more reason why we need alternative voices and alternative media to counter the propaganda. They've spent years demonizing the Arabs and relegating them to mere camel riders and terrorists. Iran/Persia doesn't fit that profile, so they have to create another profile of a people who will murder their own people in cold blood. They can't compete with a people whose history goes back thousands of years so they have to create an illusion. The illusion they create is so full of lies they had to use AI to create it. Look over here at how horrible the Iranians treat their people, don't look over there at the militarized police who came out full force during the Covid1984 protests world wide, don't look at how they continue to "beat down" protestors to this very day. Nope, nope and nope. Just look at the finger they are pointing at in the "other" direction.
We must remember, every accusation is a confession.
Ironically, almost any "real" documentary about Israel's atrocities, the horrendous conduct of the settlers and the brutal killing of the little girl, Hind Rajab, is censored and the creators threatened or killed. They think they can scrub our memories of what the Zionist colony is doing and has done since its inception, but truth warriors like Caitlin and many others will get the word out.
We've been inundated with media propaganda about the Holocaust for decades now. The same operatives have access to AI so they can continue to keep the narrative going. But they are up against a much larger media landscape.
Just as AI can be used to push their narrative it can also be used to counter it as we have seen with the Iranian and various other creators' Lego animations.
Truth will out, no matter how hard they try to squash it.
Joseph Goebels would have a spontaneous ejaculation if he saw what the Zionists achieve and get away with.
With the blessings of the US, UK, Germany, France and most of the remaining West, Israel is allowed to murder 1/3 of the more than 2 million Gaza population in the most horrific ways with basically no backlash. And those that do try, like Fransesca Albanese and of course many more, being persecuted.
Civilians (Global Sumud Flotila) unable to sit by idly wanting to alleviate the suffering of the Gaza civilian population by traveling to the area with only food and medicines are arrested, tortured and raped. Again with virtually no backlash. Smotrich or Ben Gvir not being able to enter France is not even a performative slap on the wrists. In relation to what occurred that still amounts to endorsement.
And now we get this type of next level society wide perversion of reality using AI.
Joseph Goebels would have stopped at nothing to being part of Bibi's team.
All previous US leaders would be doing the same if they had AI technology, all the way back to Linden Johnson. Why do people always go straight to German propagandists? It's always the easy one, gets people lots of clicks and likes and hence it is a form of "propaganda". Goebels was a master at propaganda, but you imply that propaganda is a BAD thing each and every time or at least if it is used by those whom we are told are our enemies.
Afterall, The fantastic LEGO videos coming out of Iran are propaganda, Iran is able to get their message across to those who struggle to research actual events. Propaganda can be used in many ways, it's how it's used, NOT who uses it.
Most people are emotional, not logical, so if you want to influence them you have no choice other than to use propaganda. This Russian word actually means "information".
That sagging candle-wax depiction of an inhuman face is completely terrible, but there are plenty of people who will lazily not bother seeing its unreality. Misty droplets before the water wall, indeed.
It is amazing that anyone believes anything coming from Israel. The leaders and the citizens have stated clearly their intention to eliminate Palestinians, they’ve described and filmed the methods they use, and they brag about lying. If an Israeli or Israeli supporter says anything about Palestinians or Iranians, it’s almost certainly not true.
My God! You really got to hand it to Israel (...and it's bitch - the U.S. ) . When it comes to diabolical evil, Israel takes the Grand Prize! They have the corner on the Evil Market of the World. I don't think that there is a single idea of how to do/be evil, that that shitty little state and people have not looked into and mastered.
There are plenty of people stupid enough to believe that the Iranian government is committing atrocities made up by Zionists who actually do commit atrocities. An acquaintance told me the other day that Muslims want to kill all of us. Those same people appear blind to the actual atrocities that are being committed in Israel and in the US. I don't know how you write about this stuff most days, Caitlin. I can barely read it sometimes. Still, I am grateful for your words and your perspective. It is really good to know that there is humanity in this world.
I have heard "Muslims want to kill all of us" plus "...the Quran tells them this" too many times. A few weeks ago an email acquaintance wrote a crude, derogatory statement to me about Muslims, oil, and sand. Media has repeatedly hit the populace with such slanderous falsehoods about Muslims and Arabs for decades. If you counter a person's false beliefs with truths, they resist--their minds are hardened, closed.
In some places you get arrested for denouncing Israel. How long before folks will be arrested for speaking positively about Iran?
p.s. Same propaganda vs.fact goes for Russia. Often if one says a positive statement about Russia--in any category, even including music and ballet-- the response includes a head shake and wrinkled nose.
It's shocking how easily some people are trained to hate designated "others".
A few centuries ago, so-called Christian Crusaders had the blessings of Catholic popes to slaughter Muslims, Jews, Orthodox Christians, etc., in order to rescue or “save” Jerusalem. Those “holy” Crusaders were free to pillage, loot, rape at their convenience. Most were relatively ignorant but adventurous teenagers or young men in their early twenties, following the orders of older men with various agendas.
Its simple really simple. These haters have never been near a Quran and they would prefer the sheeple to stay away from the Quran. I know many haters who did dare to read the Quran and then convert to Islam. Curiousty killed the cat.
I live in a majority Muslim country but the Quran is so badly written I can't stand it. So repetitious.
It has touched the hearts of hundreds of billions.Clearly love cannot penetrate everyone's heart.
Most people are sheep. Their role is to obey. It appears they have a deep instinctive desire to have designated Bad Guys. If authority designates a new set of Bad Guys they switch immediately. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
And,…. often it’s our own intelligence agencies (& bankers) that help create the next exaggerated bogeyman.
I’ll often send people to the recording of George Racey Jordan, and his documenting of how the West gave USSR so very much resource.
Also, zbignose brzstinko cultivating the ‘moslem menace’ - Mujahudeen
I worked for years in camp jobs with mixed work crews. While frowned upon there were sometimes those who would initiate affairs. The odd thing about it was that these ones who would cheat on their spouses in camp were the ones to be accusing their partners of doing the cheating. I can't help but think what an excellent analogy it is of the way a belligerent Israel accuses everyone of being guilty about that which they are so obviously guilty of.
That's the point. This new technology will storm the internet world and set off all kinds of flashpoints. Humans will believe most anything they're told if they believe it comes from a "reliable" source. Here's a case in point with these Israeli generated propaganda movies. It will only get worse from here. Meanwhile. a bunch of tech billionaires will make a lot of money as they laugh at the stupid rubes.
The deep state in collusion with the tech oligarchs in the last few years have flooded the Internet with all sorts of disinformation campaigns, and A.I. is just another branch of that effort. It's not even really about convincing people the AI is real - it's about confusing the general public enough that they can't trust anything they see or read on the Internet. It creates a crisis of information and trust which then can be taken advantage of by unscrupulous individuals pulling the strings.
Which they're doing every day.
People who know billionaires say that typically they are good at only one thing. Otherwise they aren't particularly bright or well informed, and they are rubes as easily propagandized as anyone else. Why else would they tolerate their stooges in the government "leading" the nation down down down the drain?
The same goes for members of government, especially elected ones. They don't have to know anything other than how to get elected. Most of them are easily propagandized. Even if they aren't, should they counter the propaganda they would soon be out of a job. This is just the way it is in fascist states.
I knew this day would come--and it has. If you think it's hard now to convince some who have swallowed the propaganda/hasbara whole that what they've heard/seen isn't the truth, think how much harder it will be to even get a word in edgewise once they've been inundated with AI dramas that seem like real life. We're f'ed for sure if we can't shut this sort of AI use down.
The propaganda doesn't have to be factual. It doesn't even have to be believed or believable.
All it has to do is furnish a social permission, to hate the people we are told we are obligated to hate and support the wars that will take place in our name, whether we want them or not.
But what i don't understand is why the global south or the good guys (israel and the west is evil dystopian society or the bad guys) do not use propaganda tools too. Ultimately propaganda is a weapon. One lie is more powerful than 100 truths. What is good for the goose is good for a gander. As they say "don't go to a gunfight with a fork".
Did you ever think that honorable people may have a difficult time lying? They definitely don't have the practice that these scumbags do with acts that are less than reputable.
It's possible that such propaganda is out there but completely excluded from Western media. Iran's Explosive Media was banned from Youtube when it became too popular. Russia still has Pravda as a propaganda outlet.
Most people are emotional, not logical, so anyone wants to reach the masses they more or less have to use propaganda
1. Because they are not good at it.
2. Because they do not have the cultural ("soft") power to get their narratives accepted. The West is seen as money and success.
Keep in mind the subtext behind this latest propaganda blitz - "Resumption of the war is inevitable and we will do whatever it takes to win, so best's get on the winning side."
Humans are naturally attracted to and identify with bullies and assholes.
So there is no hope for humanity.
Only temporary expedients, an eternal game of wack-a-mole.
Feral you’re so correct. Yesterday I saw an article about a group originating in China that sells videos of animal torture. It gave me nightmares last night.
There IS no hope for “humanity” (ain’t that just an oxymoron?)
Years ago I was shown my afterlife in a dream: it’s just me and other-than-humans. I believe ones that have been abused or died untimely deaths, and of course those I’ve been caretakers of.
You are welcome there as well.
Right, Feral. These fuckers seek to create doubt and confusion. Actual fact is declared to be artifice, actual fiction becomes 'truth', repeated ad nauseam by mainstream media.
The war instinct is very basic. Even ants have it.
I am friends with a colony of ants, so I see it in action sometimes.
Americans, Get off your backsides. Start a Revolution, protest, march, riot, start a civil disobedience campaign - you have nothing to lose except your chains. You owe it to the nations that are being victimised to keep you in tinsel and baubles.
Americans are part of the problem. Just saw an interview of an American colonist spouting the same tripe about the land being promised to the jews thousands of years ago and, repeating that old lie that there ever was a Palestine way back, when there it is in really old maps, it's in the bible, Jesus was a Palestinian, many jews converted to Christianity that 's how he got his followers.
The ones now killing Palestinians are the same ones that God banished for breaking His laws, which they continue to do with their acts of cruelty, murder, pillage and rape all against God's laws. So whose laws are they following that the keep up the killing? Can only be the one depicted with horns, hooves and a tail. And they have the audacity to name the land they have stolen after the man God loved for always adhering to His laws-Israel. None of the other tribes were included in that promise. I'm led to believe that the jews calling out zionist israel, are the offspring of the members of the tribe of "Israel" the man who obeyed his God's laws.
It is a rather strange situation.
Could not have put it better my friend.
It's not generative AI, it's degenerate AI.
Tribeca has a long history of supporting the Zionist entity. Consider the following from an open letter published on the BDS website in 2020.
Published
28-05-2020
Author info
Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel
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Open Letter
Cultural Boycott
Add your name here
We, the undersigned Palestinian rights organizations, filmmakers, other artists, and cultural organizations, call on Tribeca Enterprises to exclude the Jerusalem Film Festival (JFF) from the We Are One film festival. We urge conscientious filmmakers to withdraw if it does not, due to the JFF's blatant complicity in Israel’s human rights violations and its role in art-washing those violations.
Just as for decades with western films the "blue jackets" were presented as heroes and the redskins as savage terrorists, the colonizers as civilizers and the colonized as retrogrades, so with AI the Israelis and mercenaries are presented as liberators and the subjugated and decimated as terrorists.
Amen
Dear Caitlin,
Thank you for continuing keeping us aware , intouch and informed.
I don’t care what supposedly wonderful things might be accomplished through the use of AI. AI will NEVER be used for the benefit of the people. It will only be used by the elites and the fascists to manipulate and control all of us, just like the Zionists are doing with AI now to create fake Iran/Muslim atrocity porn.
Might as well go back to the horse and buggy then like the Amish, because AI is used every day when you get on an airline. The problem is social, not material.
I don’t know what you mean when you state that the problem with AI is a “social problem.” My problem is that it appears clear that those who decide how AI will be used are more focused on using it to surveil, scam and control us than to benefit us. I understand that AI is already entrenched in how we do much of our personal business online today. I also understand that AI “could” be used in ways that could benefit ordinary people as well as the corporate Masters of the Universe and our politicians. Unfortunately, I see little evidence that either group is prioritizing elevating our standards of living and improving the quality of our lives.
In my opinion, we need to stop the relentless rush to force AI as quickly as we can into every aspect of our lives, and instead strictly regulate how this potentially existence-threatening technology is used going forward.
Exactly. Why it's a social problem - and not AI (the material aspect) itself.
Yes Dad
All the more reason why we need alternative voices and alternative media to counter the propaganda. They've spent years demonizing the Arabs and relegating them to mere camel riders and terrorists. Iran/Persia doesn't fit that profile, so they have to create another profile of a people who will murder their own people in cold blood. They can't compete with a people whose history goes back thousands of years so they have to create an illusion. The illusion they create is so full of lies they had to use AI to create it. Look over here at how horrible the Iranians treat their people, don't look over there at the militarized police who came out full force during the Covid1984 protests world wide, don't look at how they continue to "beat down" protestors to this very day. Nope, nope and nope. Just look at the finger they are pointing at in the "other" direction.
We must remember, every accusation is a confession.
Ironically, almost any "real" documentary about Israel's atrocities, the horrendous conduct of the settlers and the brutal killing of the little girl, Hind Rajab, is censored and the creators threatened or killed. They think they can scrub our memories of what the Zionist colony is doing and has done since its inception, but truth warriors like Caitlin and many others will get the word out.
We've been inundated with media propaganda about the Holocaust for decades now. The same operatives have access to AI so they can continue to keep the narrative going. But they are up against a much larger media landscape.
Just as AI can be used to push their narrative it can also be used to counter it as we have seen with the Iranian and various other creators' Lego animations.
Truth will out, no matter how hard they try to squash it.
“Truth will out, no matter how hard they try to squash it.” 🙏
Joseph Goebels would have a spontaneous ejaculation if he saw what the Zionists achieve and get away with.
With the blessings of the US, UK, Germany, France and most of the remaining West, Israel is allowed to murder 1/3 of the more than 2 million Gaza population in the most horrific ways with basically no backlash. And those that do try, like Fransesca Albanese and of course many more, being persecuted.
Civilians (Global Sumud Flotila) unable to sit by idly wanting to alleviate the suffering of the Gaza civilian population by traveling to the area with only food and medicines are arrested, tortured and raped. Again with virtually no backlash. Smotrich or Ben Gvir not being able to enter France is not even a performative slap on the wrists. In relation to what occurred that still amounts to endorsement.
And now we get this type of next level society wide perversion of reality using AI.
Joseph Goebels would have stopped at nothing to being part of Bibi's team.
Goebbels
All previous US leaders would be doing the same if they had AI technology, all the way back to Linden Johnson. Why do people always go straight to German propagandists? It's always the easy one, gets people lots of clicks and likes and hence it is a form of "propaganda". Goebels was a master at propaganda, but you imply that propaganda is a BAD thing each and every time or at least if it is used by those whom we are told are our enemies.
Afterall, The fantastic LEGO videos coming out of Iran are propaganda, Iran is able to get their message across to those who struggle to research actual events. Propaganda can be used in many ways, it's how it's used, NOT who uses it.
Lyndon
Most people are emotional, not logical, so if you want to influence them you have no choice other than to use propaganda. This Russian word actually means "information".
That sagging candle-wax depiction of an inhuman face is completely terrible, but there are plenty of people who will lazily not bother seeing its unreality. Misty droplets before the water wall, indeed.
They are lower than scum!
It is amazing that anyone believes anything coming from Israel. The leaders and the citizens have stated clearly their intention to eliminate Palestinians, they’ve described and filmed the methods they use, and they brag about lying. If an Israeli or Israeli supporter says anything about Palestinians or Iranians, it’s almost certainly not true.
My God! You really got to hand it to Israel (...and it's bitch - the U.S. ) . When it comes to diabolical evil, Israel takes the Grand Prize! They have the corner on the Evil Market of the World. I don't think that there is a single idea of how to do/be evil, that that shitty little state and people have not looked into and mastered.