Listen to a reading of this article: ❖ Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz criticized the Biden administration's dangerous escalations against Russia on the House floor on Monday, not because he thinks needlessly ramping up cold war brinkmanship with a nuclear-armed nation is an insane thing to do, nor because he believes the US government should cease trying to dominate the world by constantly working to subvert and undermine any nation who disobeys its commands, but because he wants US aggressions to be focused more on China.
Could we please attack Gaetz for his very real insanity rather than imagined statutory rape? This quote is packed with multiple layers of insanity, "The cost to China was $23.7 billion — a mere fraction of a rounding error when compared to the trillions of dollars our country has spent trying to build democracies out of sand and blood in the Middle East." "Our country" didn't spend a dime to "build democracies" in the Middle East. It spent money making war and killing people, destroying infrastructure and countless lives.
Those who want to make peace with Russia so we can focus on China are not conservative. They are simply the China hawk faction Republocrats, aka Republicans. Real conservatives like Ron Paul oppose all war, like Dennis Kucinich on the left.
Right you are. This is where I have a big problem with Tucker. His calls of rationality regarding Russia do appear to be rooted in a wish to tackle a Chinese menace witnessed through the same eyes that have made American foreign policy such a peculiar shambles since 9/11.
Excellent. And this is a variation on a theme that plays out in almost all areas. Both "sides" pretend to care about humanity and talk of real progress for citizens. Only to fail again and again to make real structural and significant change to the system when "their" side is in power.
Don't "buy" ANYthing mentioned on Faux news. They are very very duplicitous poseurs. They may say "Arent' we better off being friends with Russia etc etc etc blah blah.". BUT when they are in power, THE SAME NEOCONS have their balls and their ear. And it costs them nothing in face, nor shame, to drop the prior hot air and serve NEOCON power.
You are correct of course, but apparently you haven't been listening to NPR lately. I don't listen to Fox, but what is reported as coming from Fox, sounds exactly like what is coming from NPR. The "bad American politician" role changes though from the Democrat to the Republican.
Any amount of bombing, rape, coercion, corruption, brutality, injustice, cajoling, murder, swindle, double-cross, or assassination is just fine as long as it's America that's doing it. People who embody this floating ethos are no better than what they constantly rail against. American functionaries like Gaetz are sadly not extraordinary in this regard. I cannot imagine anyone either killing or dying for such people.
Plus, big surprise: he has absolutely no problem with Israel.
Let us remember it was Obama who first brought up the "pivot to Asia".
The Oligarchy screwed up. NATO is starting to fracture in the face of the economic independence that the SCO is quickly developing across all of Eurasia. Look at the membership map on wikipedia.
America’s real adversaries are its European and other allies: Michael Hudson
Sterling example of why I have two opinions about Carlson and Gaetz: one bad, for the reasons you put forth here, and one good because they support freedom for Julian Assange.
There is still a lot of small government and anti-censorship feeling on the grassroots right; perhaps freeing Assange un-hypocritically falls into that. They constitute Tucker's audience, not the establishment. That the republican establishment remains divorced from the ideas and wishes of its grassroots only mirrors the exact same dysfunction on the democratic side. So, is Tucker real, or his he a sheepherder like Bernie?
It's very true that many self-described Conservative thinkers look considerably decent and reasonable since they reject the outright insanity voiced by the CRT-confused anarcho-terrorist left, but they don't really appreciate the degree to which Psy-Ops are used on them too. Being so sure and so proud that you're right and have all the right opinions tends to make you a fine target for Psy-Ops. People are made to feel like they're arrived at the positions and opinions they have on their own.
In fact, this is also how suggestion works in hypnosis. Language is used in such a manner that there are gaps in the speech, using language that is ''artfully vague, but systemically so'' (Richard Bandler, world-leading hypnotist) which the unconscious naturally feels the need to fill to make meaning out of things. So subtle gaps are left in the speech, suggesting to the mind that these gaps need to be filled, and then the unconscious mind does just that. The fact that the person thinks they came to their ideas on their own has the effect of solidifying the new beliefs into the deep structures of the psyche in a much more profound fashion than if the person had just been told ''this is what you need to believe,'' which actually causes the mind to push back.
In the case of traditional Conservative thinking, the main Psy-Op was to get them to buy into the Free-Trade dogma. We should all remember, how did so many of America's cities become the economically destroyed holes of despair that they are today? This happened with globalization, Free Trade policies that gutted the industrial and manufacturing bases of the country and its once powerful cities. This was a total Psy-Op, convincing Conservatives that the US economic system was a product of Adam Smith... a British economist for the British East India Company...
Globalization was basically the British East India model: keep all the colonies dependent, make sure they can never establish a sovereign manufacturing/industrial base and a full spectrum economy. Instead, one country grows the cotton, or the food, one relies on tourism, one relies on consumerism of cheap goods created by the looting and cheap labor of another country. This is literally what happened to the US, they got them to adopt the ''FIRE'' economy centered on finance, insurance, services, and abandoned their industrial and manufacturing base, and productive sectors of the economy.
This was all done by design. It's pretty obvious. All sides need to do some soul-searching because we are in a different kind of world, and writing the new chapters starts by first doing a serious inventory of what our story actually has been over the last decades, rather than the fairy-tale lies that were sold as our story.
Sowing confusion on Russia and/or China keeps the folks from noticing the totalitarian takeover by the healthcare industrial complex. The Canadians have the correct idea, but it has to be inclusive of all political stripes not like here in the US where the far right are the only resisters to the wholesale, experimental, vaxx to max, all inclusive, even for very young babies; a call to arms for "The Jab". It's simply a sad thing to sit helplessly and watch unknowing parents submit their young children to the totalitarian experiments that certainly don't stop the spread of the c-virus.
We don't need a war either. It is a serious juggling act for me to keep track of all the disparate problems demanded by the state. And I have a lot of time...and a new Roku I got for my birthday yesterday. It's movie time, so I can forget about all the shit for a few days immersed in film and TV shows. Peace, The Ol' Hippy
TheSakar is virulently anti-American although he lives in Florida. But he takes the joint communique apart and provides his interpretation of what it says. Mostly, it is a giant FU to the USA and a warning to Europe.
There's a new Pepe Escobar analysis there also which I haven't read yet, but I am looking forward to it.
"The Center for Security Policy’s Hemispheric Security Initiative hosted a webinar on February 3 to address the growing threat posed to the United States and its people by the rising tide of Communist authoritarianism across Latin America.
[...]The webinar is of special timeliness as it comes shortly after Vice President Tudela has initiated a process calling for the impeachment of President Castillo on the grounds that he has engaged in treason by suggesting in an interview last week a willingness to relinquish Peruvian territory to Bolivia in violation of Peru’s constitution. It also will frame the issues and challenges facing freedom-loving people in Colombia and Brazil – and the dire implications for America if the authoritarian tidal wave of 2021 continues unchecked, aided and abetted by external forces like the Chinese Communist Party, Russia, Iran and Cuba."
"The Center for Security Policy (CSP) is a US far-right,[5][6] anti-Muslim,[7][8] Washington, D.C.-based think tank. The organization's founder and current president is Frank Gaffney Jr. who is known for promoting falsehoods about former U.S. President Barack Obama being a Muslim.[9]"
The main attack on Castillo is that he's a Marxist setting him up for a 9/11 like the one in Chile.
I don't know the history precisely but Bolivia is a landlocked nation which happened when it lost a war to Chile having something to do with bird guano (actually, it was fertilizer). Seems to me that this initiative is just an effort to get along with the neighbors. And the CIA can't let that happen.
Yeah, but I remember Frank Gaffney, so this wikipedia article seems "close enough" for me.
Don't get caught up in the "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" idea. I don't know your politics other than being opposed to your Marxist president. I've listened to some podcasts from "Moderate Rebels" about the happenings in South America. Now, these guys aren't exactly "commies", but they are definitely opposed to capitalism or more correctly the way the USA bullies all of South America. But, listening to them, it is easy to imagine a right-wing CIA sponsored coup in Peru that will lead to a Pinochet coming to power. I don't think anyone really wants that.
Anyway, look up Ben Norton to get an alternate perspective.
WRT the Bolivian fertilize war, it was in "The Alchemy of Air" an absolutely fascinating book on bird poop leading to WW1. If you've ever watched the BBC show "Connections", it was like that.
Be nice if this group of establishment hacks was as concerned about the growing authoritarianism being displayed right here at home, or is the shredding of the First Amendment OK if it benefits the right people?
Maybe those in Latin America are understandably fed up with the endless bloody meddling they continue to suffer at the hands of American exceptionalism -- the chances of acknowledgement by the Center for Security Policy I would rate at around zero. Notable anti-authoritarians Duarte, Batista, Somoza, and Pinochet were all supported by those same ensconced power groups in Washington, far removed from the screams and tortures of their victims. Or maybe not so far removed, if we include those ubiquitous CIA "advisors."
Anyway, the American track record in the region -- glaringly unaddressed -- pretty much excludes groups like the one you linked to raising yellow menace alarm bells from being taken seriously.
"That this insanely imperialist and white supremacist doctrine is still being cited by high-profile politicians to this day says so much about what the US government is and how it operates on the world stage."
Let's ignore the ignorant and entirely unsupported/unsupportable "white supremacist" crap lazily flung into that sentence for now and focus on the imperialism aspect - the important and real, supportable, existential if you will, aspect.
1. The imperialism being applied in Argentina is by the hands of China. To suggest that China is acti9ng any other way there is not supported by any evidence and contrary to all the evidence we have.
2. The history of Argentina selling itself out like a cheap whore over the past 60 years, to the detriment of its people, is indisputable.
3. To suggest that US imperialism is the cause of the suffering in Argentina over that period is unsupportable.
4. OTOH, to suggest that ceding control of Cape Horn to CCP is in the interest of any nation not controlled by CCP is as ignorant as it is dangerous. You may think that the way CCP runs it show is a better solution for its citizens than the way the US does for its, but that is a debate and not settled science - in fact, if you have enough social credit to spare, we can debate that at length.
Russia is not a threat to humanity at the level that CCP is, not even close. Russia simply wants its historical peoples united, again. CCP already has that going for it and is expanding.
It is white supremest crap and Catlin demonstrated it quite well.
The USA is running scared because of the Belt and Road.
China has eliminated extreme poverty within its borders. The USA Oligarchy has hollowed out the US industrial strength and exported it to China while plunging 1/2 the nation into poverty.
As far as ceding Cape Horn, why should China care? They have an agreement with Nicaragua to build a sea-level canal across that nation.
Since this brohaha over Ukraine has American idiotcracy declaring that they don't recognize "spheres of influence", Russia and China are now free to move about the Caribbean as they wish.
"The USA is running scared because of the Belt and Road."
The pigs are lined up at the trough and the US is no longer feeding them, so they run to CCP - Good for them??? LOL.
"As far as ceding Cape Horn, why should China care?"
The US is ceding it to CCP via Argentina, not vice versa. The US (Carter) already pissed away the Panama canal. The US and its partners need to care.
I will grant you that the Ukraine issue is idiotic - that is the sound of the disgusting neo-cons trying to remain relevant.
It is interesting reading someone reveling in the CCP's imperialism and calling the US racist at the same time - that is some gold medal mental gymnastics. Hope that works out for you.
Hi. I am an Argentine citizen living in Argentina. I have a market liberal (centre-right) ideology, I am in opposition to the current president of my country and can't wait to vote him out. I don't like the Chinese regime either, because they conduct illegal fishing in our waters.
All that being said, I came here because I was snooping around.... Gaetz's speech is utterly delusional, as are your comments. Argentina is NOT giving away any land to China. I don't know what on Earth you are talking about.
Argentina has joined the Belt and Road Initiative, which is a scheme on which China will loan Argentina money for infraestructure projects. Namely: A new nuclear plant, renovation of railroad infraestructure, finishing the construction of two hydroelectric plants in Patagonia. 10 other Latin American countries (Chile, Uruguay, Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Cuba and Nicaragua) as well as most of Eastern and Central Europe (Italy, Greece, Poland, etc.) are already part of the BRI initiative. So this is not something Earth-shattering to the statuo quo. And Argentina is a democracy free to trade with whoever it wants. It merely is the largest Latin American country so far to join this scheme.
When nutjobs like Gaetz make speeches like this, they probably go unnoticed in the USA (because he is a nobody with a dying political career AFAIK). But in Argentina they get a huge repercussion. So it's not "Trumpist Gaetz makes wacky speech", but "Major US Representative calls Argentina a threat and invokes the Monroe Doctrine". Which is nuts. You don't get to dictate who we trade with. It alienates even people like me, who are sympathetic to the US.
Just to be clear, I was not the one saying Argentina was giving away anything.
WRT the BRI, do recall John Perkins and "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". However, the stuff I read from Escobar, Ritter, Hudson and others does not stress this. Mostly they talk about the loss of US Hegemony over the Planet's economic system and how the threat of US sanctions will merely hasten this collapse.
I am not "rooting" for this to happen because USA citizens are going to pay a very heavy economic price. OTOH, many already are as the Oligarchy hollows out our industrial capacity; ships it off to China and India; and inflates the price of Real Estate so that America becomes a feudal society.
The "vote blue no matter who" people should recognize that my position on China is "the lesser of two evils" -- although that wouldn't be correct either. Rather an acceptance of what is going to happen, like acknowledging Climate Change.
WRT being able to trade with whomever you want, you get no objection from me. But do recall Biden called your nation "The US front yard". So, I'm not so sure where he stands on the question.
If the US wants to counter Chinese influence in Latin America you need to be smarter. Expose how BRI is an attempt to debt-trap countries. Denounce Russian troops present in Venezuela, helping repress protesters there. Come bearing your own trade deals. Stand for democracy and human rights, and against corruption. But if you can't help yourselves revert to ugly 19th century language (Biden: "Latin America is America's front yard", or this Gaetz fiasco calling an infraestructure deal a "threat" - certainly hyperbolic language) then you are only giving ammunition to the Chinese who claim we are treated as colonies by the US, and putting those who oppose such deals in an untenable position.
Ah, that is pretty much exactly what I was trying to say.
My one additional point can be summed up as, "The US is losing". Any one reading Caitlin's articles should know why.
There was an interesting interview with Michael Hudson. (I encourage everyone to check him out, you might completely disagree with him, but unlike Paul Krugman, he makes a lot of sense to me.) Hudson was asked by this 70 year old guy how he should counsel his grandchildren on how to best deal with this coming change of economic policies. He said, "Learn a foreign language -- probably Mandarin."
Yes, I agree with what you've said. I posted a link to the recent CSP webinar in my comment above. I like Caitlin's crusade against the globalist oligarchy, but we shouldn't be naïve of what other global players are up to...
Could we please attack Gaetz for his very real insanity rather than imagined statutory rape? This quote is packed with multiple layers of insanity, "The cost to China was $23.7 billion — a mere fraction of a rounding error when compared to the trillions of dollars our country has spent trying to build democracies out of sand and blood in the Middle East." "Our country" didn't spend a dime to "build democracies" in the Middle East. It spent money making war and killing people, destroying infrastructure and countless lives.
Those who want to make peace with Russia so we can focus on China are not conservative. They are simply the China hawk faction Republocrats, aka Republicans. Real conservatives like Ron Paul oppose all war, like Dennis Kucinich on the left.
Right you are. This is where I have a big problem with Tucker. His calls of rationality regarding Russia do appear to be rooted in a wish to tackle a Chinese menace witnessed through the same eyes that have made American foreign policy such a peculiar shambles since 9/11.
the neocons and the neolibs have to do their darned best to differentiate themselves from the other side and perpetuate the illusion of real choices.
They are both neofeudalists. The American Oligarchy is inflating the price of real estate ensuring slavery for the next generation of Americans.
Excellent. And this is a variation on a theme that plays out in almost all areas. Both "sides" pretend to care about humanity and talk of real progress for citizens. Only to fail again and again to make real structural and significant change to the system when "their" side is in power.
Don't "buy" ANYthing mentioned on Faux news. They are very very duplicitous poseurs. They may say "Arent' we better off being friends with Russia etc etc etc blah blah.". BUT when they are in power, THE SAME NEOCONS have their balls and their ear. And it costs them nothing in face, nor shame, to drop the prior hot air and serve NEOCON power.
This is a dirty dirty dirty game.
You are correct of course, but apparently you haven't been listening to NPR lately. I don't listen to Fox, but what is reported as coming from Fox, sounds exactly like what is coming from NPR. The "bad American politician" role changes though from the Democrat to the Republican.
Yes, Didn't mean to just single out Fox per se.....! It's all dirty. full spectrum A to C.
Yeah, it is a pain to try to present your position impartially. So damn many caveats.
tell me about it....still this is one of the few boards where it's worth it because we all agree on the BS matrix swamping us!
Excellent.
Any amount of bombing, rape, coercion, corruption, brutality, injustice, cajoling, murder, swindle, double-cross, or assassination is just fine as long as it's America that's doing it. People who embody this floating ethos are no better than what they constantly rail against. American functionaries like Gaetz are sadly not extraordinary in this regard. I cannot imagine anyone either killing or dying for such people.
Plus, big surprise: he has absolutely no problem with Israel.
Let us remember it was Obama who first brought up the "pivot to Asia".
The Oligarchy screwed up. NATO is starting to fracture in the face of the economic independence that the SCO is quickly developing across all of Eurasia. Look at the membership map on wikipedia.
America’s real adversaries are its European and other allies: Michael Hudson
https://michael-hudson.com/2022/02/americas-real-adversaries-are-its-european-and-other-allies/
The Oligarchs bubble is about to burst as the world "de-dollarizes".
Oh yeah, some Pepe Escobar and Scott Ritter needs to be thrown in here.
Sterling example of why I have two opinions about Carlson and Gaetz: one bad, for the reasons you put forth here, and one good because they support freedom for Julian Assange.
Their support for Assange I think is about as deep as the Democrats support for abortion rights. A scam to lure in the gullible. Talk is cheap.
There is still a lot of small government and anti-censorship feeling on the grassroots right; perhaps freeing Assange un-hypocritically falls into that. They constitute Tucker's audience, not the establishment. That the republican establishment remains divorced from the ideas and wishes of its grassroots only mirrors the exact same dysfunction on the democratic side. So, is Tucker real, or his he a sheepherder like Bernie?
Tucker is as real as Rachael Maddow.
Remember when he was on Crossfire and Jon Stewart scolded him? That was hilarious.
Well I will say that Maddow and Tucker do the same thing: they both call out the republican leadership. ;-)
Bravo Caitlin !!
PS: What does the acronym NPC" mean?
a bot account. not human. fake. robo troll. "Non Playing Character".
Many thanks!! Am I the only one? Most people would know this?
I only know this because of playing (real life, not computer) Dungeons and Dragons.
I did not know.
Oh, you kids and your fancy acronyms.
Great piece.
It's very true that many self-described Conservative thinkers look considerably decent and reasonable since they reject the outright insanity voiced by the CRT-confused anarcho-terrorist left, but they don't really appreciate the degree to which Psy-Ops are used on them too. Being so sure and so proud that you're right and have all the right opinions tends to make you a fine target for Psy-Ops. People are made to feel like they're arrived at the positions and opinions they have on their own.
In fact, this is also how suggestion works in hypnosis. Language is used in such a manner that there are gaps in the speech, using language that is ''artfully vague, but systemically so'' (Richard Bandler, world-leading hypnotist) which the unconscious naturally feels the need to fill to make meaning out of things. So subtle gaps are left in the speech, suggesting to the mind that these gaps need to be filled, and then the unconscious mind does just that. The fact that the person thinks they came to their ideas on their own has the effect of solidifying the new beliefs into the deep structures of the psyche in a much more profound fashion than if the person had just been told ''this is what you need to believe,'' which actually causes the mind to push back.
In the case of traditional Conservative thinking, the main Psy-Op was to get them to buy into the Free-Trade dogma. We should all remember, how did so many of America's cities become the economically destroyed holes of despair that they are today? This happened with globalization, Free Trade policies that gutted the industrial and manufacturing bases of the country and its once powerful cities. This was a total Psy-Op, convincing Conservatives that the US economic system was a product of Adam Smith... a British economist for the British East India Company...
Globalization was basically the British East India model: keep all the colonies dependent, make sure they can never establish a sovereign manufacturing/industrial base and a full spectrum economy. Instead, one country grows the cotton, or the food, one relies on tourism, one relies on consumerism of cheap goods created by the looting and cheap labor of another country. This is literally what happened to the US, they got them to adopt the ''FIRE'' economy centered on finance, insurance, services, and abandoned their industrial and manufacturing base, and productive sectors of the economy.
This was all done by design. It's pretty obvious. All sides need to do some soul-searching because we are in a different kind of world, and writing the new chapters starts by first doing a serious inventory of what our story actually has been over the last decades, rather than the fairy-tale lies that were sold as our story.
Sowing confusion on Russia and/or China keeps the folks from noticing the totalitarian takeover by the healthcare industrial complex. The Canadians have the correct idea, but it has to be inclusive of all political stripes not like here in the US where the far right are the only resisters to the wholesale, experimental, vaxx to max, all inclusive, even for very young babies; a call to arms for "The Jab". It's simply a sad thing to sit helplessly and watch unknowing parents submit their young children to the totalitarian experiments that certainly don't stop the spread of the c-virus.
We don't need a war either. It is a serious juggling act for me to keep track of all the disparate problems demanded by the state. And I have a lot of time...and a new Roku I got for my birthday yesterday. It's movie time, so I can forget about all the shit for a few days immersed in film and TV shows. Peace, The Ol' Hippy
https://thescrum.substack.com/p/the-world-just-turned?r=j0s6f&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
I hope you guys are able to open this one, it is in perfect support of Caitlin’s project
Unpacking the Joint Statement
https://thesaker.is/unpacking-the-russian-chinese-joint-statement/
TheSakar is virulently anti-American although he lives in Florida. But he takes the joint communique apart and provides his interpretation of what it says. Mostly, it is a giant FU to the USA and a warning to Europe.
There's a new Pepe Escobar analysis there also which I haven't read yet, but I am looking forward to it.
"Webinar: Countering the Authoritarian Wave in Latin America" is worth watching in the context of what Caitlin said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEic__gmmXQ
From the description:
"The Center for Security Policy’s Hemispheric Security Initiative hosted a webinar on February 3 to address the growing threat posed to the United States and its people by the rising tide of Communist authoritarianism across Latin America.
[...]The webinar is of special timeliness as it comes shortly after Vice President Tudela has initiated a process calling for the impeachment of President Castillo on the grounds that he has engaged in treason by suggesting in an interview last week a willingness to relinquish Peruvian territory to Bolivia in violation of Peru’s constitution. It also will frame the issues and challenges facing freedom-loving people in Colombia and Brazil – and the dire implications for America if the authoritarian tidal wave of 2021 continues unchecked, aided and abetted by external forces like the Chinese Communist Party, Russia, Iran and Cuba."
Full transcript could be found on CSP website https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/webinar-countering-the-authoritarian-wave-in-latin-america/
From Wikipedia:
"The Center for Security Policy (CSP) is a US far-right,[5][6] anti-Muslim,[7][8] Washington, D.C.-based think tank. The organization's founder and current president is Frank Gaffney Jr. who is known for promoting falsehoods about former U.S. President Barack Obama being a Muslim.[9]"
The main attack on Castillo is that he's a Marxist setting him up for a 9/11 like the one in Chile.
I don't know the history precisely but Bolivia is a landlocked nation which happened when it lost a war to Chile having something to do with bird guano (actually, it was fertilizer). Seems to me that this initiative is just an effort to get along with the neighbors. And the CIA can't let that happen.
FWIW, Wikipedia is known for promoting falsehoods. But aside from that, there are a lot of conspiracy theories to dive into...
Yeah, but I remember Frank Gaffney, so this wikipedia article seems "close enough" for me.
Don't get caught up in the "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" idea. I don't know your politics other than being opposed to your Marxist president. I've listened to some podcasts from "Moderate Rebels" about the happenings in South America. Now, these guys aren't exactly "commies", but they are definitely opposed to capitalism or more correctly the way the USA bullies all of South America. But, listening to them, it is easy to imagine a right-wing CIA sponsored coup in Peru that will lead to a Pinochet coming to power. I don't think anyone really wants that.
Anyway, look up Ben Norton to get an alternate perspective.
WRT the Bolivian fertilize war, it was in "The Alchemy of Air" an absolutely fascinating book on bird poop leading to WW1. If you've ever watched the BBC show "Connections", it was like that.
From what I can tell, the guano is still flying.
Be nice if this group of establishment hacks was as concerned about the growing authoritarianism being displayed right here at home, or is the shredding of the First Amendment OK if it benefits the right people?
Maybe those in Latin America are understandably fed up with the endless bloody meddling they continue to suffer at the hands of American exceptionalism -- the chances of acknowledgement by the Center for Security Policy I would rate at around zero. Notable anti-authoritarians Duarte, Batista, Somoza, and Pinochet were all supported by those same ensconced power groups in Washington, far removed from the screams and tortures of their victims. Or maybe not so far removed, if we include those ubiquitous CIA "advisors."
Anyway, the American track record in the region -- glaringly unaddressed -- pretty much excludes groups like the one you linked to raising yellow menace alarm bells from being taken seriously.
Excellent insightful article
"That this insanely imperialist and white supremacist doctrine is still being cited by high-profile politicians to this day says so much about what the US government is and how it operates on the world stage."
Let's ignore the ignorant and entirely unsupported/unsupportable "white supremacist" crap lazily flung into that sentence for now and focus on the imperialism aspect - the important and real, supportable, existential if you will, aspect.
1. The imperialism being applied in Argentina is by the hands of China. To suggest that China is acti9ng any other way there is not supported by any evidence and contrary to all the evidence we have.
2. The history of Argentina selling itself out like a cheap whore over the past 60 years, to the detriment of its people, is indisputable.
3. To suggest that US imperialism is the cause of the suffering in Argentina over that period is unsupportable.
4. OTOH, to suggest that ceding control of Cape Horn to CCP is in the interest of any nation not controlled by CCP is as ignorant as it is dangerous. You may think that the way CCP runs it show is a better solution for its citizens than the way the US does for its, but that is a debate and not settled science - in fact, if you have enough social credit to spare, we can debate that at length.
Russia is not a threat to humanity at the level that CCP is, not even close. Russia simply wants its historical peoples united, again. CCP already has that going for it and is expanding.
It is white supremest crap and Catlin demonstrated it quite well.
The USA is running scared because of the Belt and Road.
China has eliminated extreme poverty within its borders. The USA Oligarchy has hollowed out the US industrial strength and exported it to China while plunging 1/2 the nation into poverty.
As far as ceding Cape Horn, why should China care? They have an agreement with Nicaragua to build a sea-level canal across that nation.
Since this brohaha over Ukraine has American idiotcracy declaring that they don't recognize "spheres of influence", Russia and China are now free to move about the Caribbean as they wish.
"It is white supremest crap"
Prove it.
"The USA is running scared because of the Belt and Road."
The pigs are lined up at the trough and the US is no longer feeding them, so they run to CCP - Good for them??? LOL.
"As far as ceding Cape Horn, why should China care?"
The US is ceding it to CCP via Argentina, not vice versa. The US (Carter) already pissed away the Panama canal. The US and its partners need to care.
I will grant you that the Ukraine issue is idiotic - that is the sound of the disgusting neo-cons trying to remain relevant.
It is interesting reading someone reveling in the CCP's imperialism and calling the US racist at the same time - that is some gold medal mental gymnastics. Hope that works out for you.
To repeat: Prove the racism w/r/t Argentina
Hi. I am an Argentine citizen living in Argentina. I have a market liberal (centre-right) ideology, I am in opposition to the current president of my country and can't wait to vote him out. I don't like the Chinese regime either, because they conduct illegal fishing in our waters.
All that being said, I came here because I was snooping around.... Gaetz's speech is utterly delusional, as are your comments. Argentina is NOT giving away any land to China. I don't know what on Earth you are talking about.
Argentina has joined the Belt and Road Initiative, which is a scheme on which China will loan Argentina money for infraestructure projects. Namely: A new nuclear plant, renovation of railroad infraestructure, finishing the construction of two hydroelectric plants in Patagonia. 10 other Latin American countries (Chile, Uruguay, Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Cuba and Nicaragua) as well as most of Eastern and Central Europe (Italy, Greece, Poland, etc.) are already part of the BRI initiative. So this is not something Earth-shattering to the statuo quo. And Argentina is a democracy free to trade with whoever it wants. It merely is the largest Latin American country so far to join this scheme.
When nutjobs like Gaetz make speeches like this, they probably go unnoticed in the USA (because he is a nobody with a dying political career AFAIK). But in Argentina they get a huge repercussion. So it's not "Trumpist Gaetz makes wacky speech", but "Major US Representative calls Argentina a threat and invokes the Monroe Doctrine". Which is nuts. You don't get to dictate who we trade with. It alienates even people like me, who are sympathetic to the US.
Just to be clear, I was not the one saying Argentina was giving away anything.
WRT the BRI, do recall John Perkins and "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". However, the stuff I read from Escobar, Ritter, Hudson and others does not stress this. Mostly they talk about the loss of US Hegemony over the Planet's economic system and how the threat of US sanctions will merely hasten this collapse.
I am not "rooting" for this to happen because USA citizens are going to pay a very heavy economic price. OTOH, many already are as the Oligarchy hollows out our industrial capacity; ships it off to China and India; and inflates the price of Real Estate so that America becomes a feudal society.
The "vote blue no matter who" people should recognize that my position on China is "the lesser of two evils" -- although that wouldn't be correct either. Rather an acceptance of what is going to happen, like acknowledging Climate Change.
WRT being able to trade with whomever you want, you get no objection from me. But do recall Biden called your nation "The US front yard". So, I'm not so sure where he stands on the question.
Best to you. Keep the Brits away.
I guess what I am trying to say is:
If the US wants to counter Chinese influence in Latin America you need to be smarter. Expose how BRI is an attempt to debt-trap countries. Denounce Russian troops present in Venezuela, helping repress protesters there. Come bearing your own trade deals. Stand for democracy and human rights, and against corruption. But if you can't help yourselves revert to ugly 19th century language (Biden: "Latin America is America's front yard", or this Gaetz fiasco calling an infraestructure deal a "threat" - certainly hyperbolic language) then you are only giving ammunition to the Chinese who claim we are treated as colonies by the US, and putting those who oppose such deals in an untenable position.
Ah, that is pretty much exactly what I was trying to say.
My one additional point can be summed up as, "The US is losing". Any one reading Caitlin's articles should know why.
There was an interesting interview with Michael Hudson. (I encourage everyone to check him out, you might completely disagree with him, but unlike Paul Krugman, he makes a lot of sense to me.) Hudson was asked by this 70 year old guy how he should counsel his grandchildren on how to best deal with this coming change of economic policies. He said, "Learn a foreign language -- probably Mandarin."
I know someone who got the exact same advice, and is starting to do so.
Yes, I agree with what you've said. I posted a link to the recent CSP webinar in my comment above. I like Caitlin's crusade against the globalist oligarchy, but we shouldn't be naïve of what other global players are up to...
❤ Ils en choisissent un, ils auront les deux peu importe ce qu'il vômissent !
Translation: "They choose one, they will have both no matter what they want!"