Yes, they absolutely should! It will take some big doing and the greater world saying Enough! What we are seeing is brutal insanity - but all empires finally overreach like hungry ghosts and then fall. Yet in the meantime, so much heartbreaking suffering, death and destruction!!!
Truth: The reason the US government still has troops (who are lied to) in Iraq is to protect its oil fields, the 5th largest in the world, that the US, GB and Italian corporate governments among others stole with the Iraq war, destroying that Country and giving those oil fields to Mobil Exxon, BP, Shell, Halliburton (Halliburton's "sweetheart deal" with the U.S. Military), under the doublespeak cover of "Iraqi Ministry of Oil" owning it's own oil. The corporate US has been doing this, or in some places like Venezuela attempting to, all over the world for resources (aka "national interests"). The US also owns Ukraine's oil/gas since the first year of that proxy war. And then there's Yemen and the oil field off Gaza.
Truth: The corporate/U.S.military industrial complex has very likely been escalating towards war with Iran from day one salivating for Iran's vast oil fields, the 3rd largest in the world after Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, from it's solid base in Israel/US, but blind in its arrogance to the danger for all, and for the whole world.
The gas of the coast of Gaza is a non-issue, Israeli petroleum companies have already slant-drilled into the deposit from existing platforms and are extracting it as we speak. There will be none left for the Palestinians to ever sell, even if they get their territory back.
But that's exactly the issue. During the last 6 months Israel/US has granted licenses to 12 major oil companies for more gas exploration off the Gaza coast including BP, Eni and any number of hard to track "subsidiaries" that could not have happened without seizing Gaza, and is fully illegal "pillaging" under international law, for what that's worth. Israel doesn't have the needed equipment - its natural gas, including Gaza's Leviathan field, is operated and mostly owned by Chevron (US). There is also continual buying and selling and swapping among the oil mega corporations to make it hard to track (as well as forming subsidiaries for tax evasion). There are many sites. FYI Chevron is active in 180 Countries around the world. You can imagine the obscene profits.
The "exploration" that they've been doing is the slant-drilling that I mentioned. If you don't know what slant-drilling is (most people don't) keep in mind that deposits are generally thousands of feet below the surface. Petroleum companies figured out decades ago that if you incline your drill rig just a couple of degrees off vertical everything still works fine but now you're tapping an entirely different area quite a ways off to the side. It saves a lot of money, even for land-based drilling, and allows them to extract resources without the actual owner even knowing.
I learned about this back in the '70s when one of my dad's coworkers called Shell to offer to let them sink wells on his property, seeing how much money his neighbors were making. He apparently got a new person who really shouldn't have been answering phones, because after looking up the property they told him, "Oh, we've been pumping from that area for the last 4 years, they slant-drilled from the platform on the property next to yours." Oops.
Dad's coworker got to retire a lot earlier than he expected.
Those are not US bases in Iraq. They are actually NATO-staffed bases inside what the media claim are US bases. There are personnel there from NATO countries:
Do we all realize that the current West's desperate craving for control of the world's largest oilfields is a clear sign that the whole net-zero-, decarb-, end-of-oil-, etc.-, etc.-trope is just a GIANT SCAM to corral the plebes into serfdom ??? ... 🤔🤔🤔
Somehow the press corpse (spelling deliberate) miss mentioning that attacks on US bases in Iraq had stopped, and only restarted THE DAY AFTER that country asked them to leave, *again*, and were told that they were not going to leave, *again*.
People seem to have the idea that all these things just happen in a vacuum, that none of it is connected.
NOTHING is going to change....getting the British out of India and Sri Lanka took years. The only difference then was that there was dialogue which the US Govt. it seems is incapable of.
A friend’s husband is mad at me because I said “America doesn’t own the world.” You’d think this would be self evident but this belief that we have some kind of “right” to impose our will, occupy other countries, assassinate their officials, confiscate their resources and be offended and justified in seeking revenge if they resist is wrong and must stop. No wonder Israel and US are allies as both have this inexplicable sense of entitlement.
I was going to suggest they are not friends, however, you might have a greater tolerance for shitty people than I do. Something like that, I cut them loose to avoid the contamination.
Same here Landru. I’ve cut a longtime friend out of my life (don’t miss her a bit) and the majority of my husband’s large family off as well. Don’t miss them either, and it saves me from attending their boring family functions 😉
There are days when one can question their own judgment in choosing "friends". It can be difficult to accept that a person you previously saw as caring is not. We are all brainwashed to see our government as a democracy.
If it was your own precious baby with two excellent sniper shots drilled into her head, would you still vote for the party calling for more of your tax dollars to go that sniper? How is voting for the Fraternity’s pick for you to rubber stamp not an act of destruction on democracy itself? Did you participate -as in an open convention - in discerning which candidate spoke most directly to your concerns? No. You were supplied with one chosen by a corporatized Democratic Establishment whose wake of candidacies have fitted most closely their fraternity’s protocol of acceptable ones. And how well has that energized your civic engagement or estrangement? Isn’t it time the dominance, control and exclusivity of the corporatized Democratic Establishment be broken? Remember. Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries helped invite the war criminal thug to speak before Congress. Do we really want Israel determining the quality of our civic life and choices? Are we that far gone in materialism?
As usual, very well said. But I’ll dare say I must look at myself. Nothing short of a general strike and mass riot is warranted, given the genocide. But then again, the US already invaded Iraq on false pretense and did unimaginable damage. This isn’t remotely new. If they could fund and arm a genocide and basically give Hitler 50 standing ovations, being on the inside in 9-11 for imperial aims is not hard to believe for more people than ever.
It's a weird thing but shitlibs really don't like it when I refer to them as such... which is strange cause they are so proud of being shitlibs most of the time.... go and figure
Keep shouting out your truth, the lunatic asylum of Israel is dragging the whole world into the darkest abyss. Iran is not our enemy because they had the temerity to overthrow the dictator Shah imposed upon them in 1979. America's hegemony and obsessive desire for other people's oil reserves has cost millions of lives. Israel's murderous capacity for endless escalation, and psychotic desire for other people's land is going to derail the world. Iran isn't the problem, they've shown astounding restraint despite their sovereignty being violated. Israel has no interest in peace, why else would they murder Hamas's chief negotiator? The Terrorist State of Israel is the problem, and the US not only gives them diplomatic cover, but nuclear bombs. On the 79th anniversary of Hiroshima, the world must take a stand and prevent an eternal nuclear winter engulfing the Middle East, and potentially the human race. Netanyahu will murder all of us to stay in power and out of prison. Sanity must prevail, or we're all lost.
I just had this discussion with people I thought were thoughtful : ( They claim they resistance is playing the long game. I laughed, YOU are out of YOUR FUCKING MIND I said with the certainty I wrote this. I said, long game, you mean after all the Palestinians are dead long game? I said you do know, dirty small amounts of water and 1k calorie diets are a death sentence long game. Looks of questioning, I said many of the Palestinian are already the walking dead. You never recover from those conditions.
Put an international peacekeeping force into Palestine....preferably not westerners then disallow any weapons from other governments and allow Israel to implode which it looks like it is doing.
I don’t think this about politcal party. This is about Humanity. And what I see, hear, and know intuitively is pure evil. I want no part of this evil insanity.
You're in the minority. Majority will be voting for the lesser or greater evil. They will all, however, claim they voted for the lesser one even when they know better.
People deserve their governments - there's just no way around it.
I suggest you do as I will do, I will write in people I care about. The write in vote IS seen by both parties. Your vote which might shock you is not private. Both parties know who voted and who they voted for by purchasing the voter rolls. I had many lists of voters during my door knocking/sig. work for Bernie. When you have no choice that is not evil, vote your heart.
Good to see the Democratic party pick someone as youthful and full of vigor as Tim Walz. Almost as inspiring as JFK once was. Would be awful if he was some over-weight, balding guy with thick glasses - Daddy in his expensive suit, here to save us!
Sorry to say this, but Daddy Tim Walz is a staunch supporter of helping "Israel defend itself," just as Kamala Harris is, unless she does a remarkable about face. She has already accepted over five million $$$ from AIPAC. AIPAC, the oil companies and the military industrial complex are choosing our political leaders - they just successfully spent millions of dollars taking down Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush in the primaries.
Thankfully Rashiba Tlaib and Pramila Jayapal won theirs!
And Cori may have lost but the work she's done and the causes and people she's fought for will not stop there! She said in her concession speech: "All they did was take the strings off." "All they did was radicalize me, so now they need to be afraid!"
People need to understand how close to WW III we are because of the stupidity and deliberate risk escalation of the US. The media are either sloppy or deliberately hiding the truth.
That base that was attacked in Iraq is NOT a "US base" - it's a NATO base!
The news reports are not comprehensive in actually detailing what happened and who was injured. In fact that base is a NATO base, and it contains military personnel from NATO countries. These countries are all actively conducting military operations in both Iraq and Syria
In this particular incident there were other people injured, including reports of at least two Norwegian military personnel. There will be other NATOcountries in that base, all of which of course the US use this incident to tell them they need to join an attack on Iran.......instead of taking those troops and going to Palestine and stop the genocide there.
The zionists in the US are extremely determined not only to complete the genocide of the Palestinians but to draw the entire world into a conficlt.
There’s a war going on between the few winners of the money-oriented order (the Pips; People in power) ) and the great majority of the people. The semiprogs (semi-progressives) spend their energies discussing the antics of the officers of the Pips’ army instead of fighting the war.
"... coming Iranian retaliatory strikes on Israel as a completely unprovoked attack ..." - good moment to ponder for those who are pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine at the same time. Remember, Russia attacked Ukraine in a completely unprovoked fashion. Out of the blue. Just because. 🤷♂️😳
It wasn’t unprovoked, Putin warned Ukraine if they persisted in joining NATO st behest of the US and NATO he would go to war to protect Russian borders. The Ukrainian war is a US and NATO proxy war, Ukrainians are canon fodder for Western agendas. Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer have both exposed the motives of the war mongers and stated Ukraine can’t possibly win it. Yet all peace negotiations early were deliberately scuttled by the US.
Please note that there have been no riots in Scotland, and hopefully there won’t be. Unfortunately we are still part of the UK but not part of England. We have been subjugated for over 300 years. We were cheated during our independence referendum because England cannot afford to let Scotland go. We need help from the international community. How do we get information out when all our media are controlled from outwith our country.
I'm in the US In California. This State will definitely be going to the Democrats, and so all of our electoral college votes will be going to the Democratic candidate. The college is crazed, antique of a system that is in our constitution and it would take a an amendment to the constitution to get rid of it. We are still trying to pass the 1970s Equal Rights(for women)Amendment, so nobody's holding their breath for one killing the college. In my case it allows me to vote for whoever I want...with my meaningless vote. BUT, if I was in a state where it might swing either way, I'd have to vote for her in an attempt to keep Trump out. The Middle East is only going to get worse if he is elected. I agree with most of what's been said here, but there are other reasons that people are supporting her, besides just not realizing how much a part of this tragedy the Biden Regime has played. Our politics are such that it will be one of the two major parties' candidates who wins. A third part or independent hasn't won the presidency since Lincoln in the 1860s. Between the rolling back of what democracy we have that is included in P 2025, and how much worse Trump would be for the Middle East(as hard as that is to wrap your head around) there are reasons for some to support her even if they understand the current admin's culpability with regard to the genocide. Our feeds are mostly appeals for contributions these days. Any time I respond one from Kamala, which is pretty frequently, I explain that t she'll get the only vote I can give her because of the college, but that if she wants a chunk of my social security, she'll have to change her position on Gaza and the West Bank too.
"BUT, if I was in a state where it might swing either way, I'd have to vote for her in an attempt to keep Trump out."
Fuck that shit. I'm in Virginia (which is more or less a purple state), & if I have to vote, I'd vote 3rd party out of spite.
Terry McAuliffe was the last Democratic candidate I've voted for in 2021 in the gubernatorial election race against Glenn Youngkin.
I haven't given my vote to the duopoly establishment since 2022 when I've fully woke up to the Democratic party & turned leftist. I've just turned in my blank ballots.
I will no longer contribute towards corrupt ass politicians from both parties who have been proven to be loyal towards wealthy donors, globalists & foreign entities like Israel, & invites a global war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu (Bibi) who's responsible for committing genocide against Palestinians (who are black & brown people, people of MY race) to the U.S. Capitol, calling him "His excellency," & giving him a standing ovation.
While I agree with most of what you say above, let me play Devil's Advocate...
While being in the US, I hate and loathe it for everything it has done to all the other countries all over the world (and the planet) over the last 100+ years. It has been the single most destructive force (economically, militarily, ecologically) the world has ever known. The world (and humanity) needs a chance to move on and see a brighter future. I can't see that happening with the US being the way it is. It needs to start declining and be put in its place.
That's where I think (maybe erroneously) a Trump presidency might work towards hastening the demise of the US. Trump is so stupid and destructive (in every which way) that he is likely to speed up the decline of the US Empire. Yes, his presidency will wreak havoc on the whole world, but it will also wreak havoc on the US itself - it will exact a toll on the US Empire (which unfortunately a lot of Americans will land up paying for - maybe even with their lives - including myself).
If my hope is to see an end to the malignant and evil US Empire as fast as possible, then a Trump presidency might just hasten the inevitable. I wish there was a way for me to offer some credible evidence/support for such a theory, but I have none so far (and it currently remains as a what-if hypothesis in my mind). Would such a gamble be worth it? Or is the risk/reward ratio not worth continuing to think along these lines...
Agree gypsy. When our votes don't seem to matter, the least we can do is to protest vote (like voting for Jill Stein or Cornell West, but not RFK Jr. please).
Lynn, I don't know about Trump making 'a better life for the American people'. As far as I can see he is making billions for himself.
Do you ever stop to think why human beings - Americans prefer to call them illegal aliens - try to get to the USA.... ?!
Don't you know that the 'benevolent' USA has made life intolerable for them in their own lands? Made-in-the-USA armed death squad violence rampage as civil wars; the freezing of all their assets, imposition of sanctions meant to be a strangle hold on their economies; do a regime change and a handover to their puppets to be as repressive, oppressive as humanly possible.
Right now - if you have your eyes open - you will see a very American coup attempt to overthrow the legitimate government of Venezuela in order to steal their oil and other resources. Your prosperity is built on the graveyard of others. On the plight of all those "aliens".
Do you ever wonder about their plight? Do you ever think it's gross to be greeted by a Trump with obscenely vile and racist rhetoric and lies.
Your comment makes you come across as an unhinged far-right MAGA something that lives in a world where facts don't seem to matter - the kind of people even an unhinged and narcissistic Trump finds to be unhinged (though he pretends to love them for their votes - suckers).
My facts are straight enough to know "post-birth abortions" exist only in the minds of the extremely gullible. No aspect of our lives was improved by a huge, debt-funded tax cut for the top of the income heap (which, aside from 3 unearned and unqualified SC appointments) was that administration's only accomplishment. Please list the accomplishments you see which I cannot.
Read my comment again - I said "Your comment makes you come across as..." I didn't say what you are, I said how you come across as.
Your response indicates that you are doubling-down on your behavior and thought processes (like JD Vance is with his "childless cat-lady statements").
It's not worth my effort to correct your erroneous facts (alternate truths?) - as they are simple enough to verify (if you actually wanted to). As I said before, facts don't seem to matter (to many people on both sides of the aisle), and it doesn't seem like you are the kind of person to let some pesky facts and inconvenient truths shatter your false narratives and illusions.
No matter how many letters have been sent, petitions signed, marches marched and demonstrations held, the needle hasn’t moved an inch toward cutting the US military support for Israel or curbing Bibi’s bloodlust. The Dems have done more for average Americans than the Repubs, but both parties have done 0 to stop genocide. Your ballots won’t do anything either. The only thing that may work is massive civil disobedience that has long been suggested by Chris Hedges. Several million people making their feelings clear might finally move the needle towards a ceasefire in Gaza, and maybe elsewhere. We’re all well aware of the wrongs committed by our country. I keep hoping Caitlin will reveal a solution. I think she’s A+ in her analysis and in keeping us focused. Does anyone here have any ideas on how we may best make a positive change?
" if I was in a state where it might swing either way, I'd have to vote for her in an attempt to keep Trump out." - so you will be voting for genocide as a typical shitlib. What's new?
And don't bother wiggling - you offered your "arguments". They're as shitlib as they come.
I suggest since she doesn't need your vote, vote for a write-in showing you cared enough to vote SHE didn't earn it. Voting for two evils isn't a vote I can live with.
If your vote mattered then you’d vote for the lesser of two genocidal psychopaths yet in your long-winded post you still offered nothing concrete as to a difference this would make, as if it’s going to matter at all compared to genocide. You offered comments like “a third party can’t win” so I’ll just vote for something completely against st my interests, ‘cause Trump. Great insight, 🙄.
Interesting that you should mention genocide, because just to be on the moral high round the USA forced Israel to kill all those innocent Palestinians, so now the poor innocent Israelis now free of American bondage, does the right thing and betrays their American Over Lords; one hundred million dead or emmigrated to Argentina.
But, eff it; just kill the Americans now and deal with the Palestinians later; right? Just like patriarch of the Rothschilds said, "I'm a vampire that can never die." Was I supposed to be impressed? He died shortly there after of an undisclosed cause; so, no matter who wins, we all die.
You are making sense. I’d like to point out that Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem in a move that legitimized Israeli hegemony there. A lot of these people doing the protest vote thing will not be affected one way or another, the most vulnerable in our society will. Like the homeless that are now able to be criminally cited for trying to sleep, thanks to this Supreme Court’s cruelty, or queer people who are scared our rights will be on the chopping block next. Like what chance do we have if Roe died and that’s about the human rights of HALF the population?? We wouldn’t have had this happen if Hillary had been elected, and I say that as someone who protest not-voted. So what I learned was that I don’t really want to see what happens to human rights and human dignity in America under a sundowning TFG, and if all progressives’ effort has to go to fighting Trumpian bullshit at home that’s not gonna leave us a lot of extra attention to go around for the rest of the world. Idk. I could be convinced otherwise, but probably not easily
US troops should get the hell out of the middle east, and everywhere else.
Yes, they absolutely should! It will take some big doing and the greater world saying Enough! What we are seeing is brutal insanity - but all empires finally overreach like hungry ghosts and then fall. Yet in the meantime, so much heartbreaking suffering, death and destruction!!!
Truth: The reason the US government still has troops (who are lied to) in Iraq is to protect its oil fields, the 5th largest in the world, that the US, GB and Italian corporate governments among others stole with the Iraq war, destroying that Country and giving those oil fields to Mobil Exxon, BP, Shell, Halliburton (Halliburton's "sweetheart deal" with the U.S. Military), under the doublespeak cover of "Iraqi Ministry of Oil" owning it's own oil. The corporate US has been doing this, or in some places like Venezuela attempting to, all over the world for resources (aka "national interests"). The US also owns Ukraine's oil/gas since the first year of that proxy war. And then there's Yemen and the oil field off Gaza.
Truth: The corporate/U.S.military industrial complex has very likely been escalating towards war with Iran from day one salivating for Iran's vast oil fields, the 3rd largest in the world after Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, from it's solid base in Israel/US, but blind in its arrogance to the danger for all, and for the whole world.
The gas of the coast of Gaza is a non-issue, Israeli petroleum companies have already slant-drilled into the deposit from existing platforms and are extracting it as we speak. There will be none left for the Palestinians to ever sell, even if they get their territory back.
But that's exactly the issue. During the last 6 months Israel/US has granted licenses to 12 major oil companies for more gas exploration off the Gaza coast including BP, Eni and any number of hard to track "subsidiaries" that could not have happened without seizing Gaza, and is fully illegal "pillaging" under international law, for what that's worth. Israel doesn't have the needed equipment - its natural gas, including Gaza's Leviathan field, is operated and mostly owned by Chevron (US). There is also continual buying and selling and swapping among the oil mega corporations to make it hard to track (as well as forming subsidiaries for tax evasion). There are many sites. FYI Chevron is active in 180 Countries around the world. You can imagine the obscene profits.
https://www.newarab.com/analysis/israel-sets-its-sights-gazas-offshore-gas
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/3/6/israel-is-pillaging-not-just-gazas-cities-but-also-its-waters
The "exploration" that they've been doing is the slant-drilling that I mentioned. If you don't know what slant-drilling is (most people don't) keep in mind that deposits are generally thousands of feet below the surface. Petroleum companies figured out decades ago that if you incline your drill rig just a couple of degrees off vertical everything still works fine but now you're tapping an entirely different area quite a ways off to the side. It saves a lot of money, even for land-based drilling, and allows them to extract resources without the actual owner even knowing.
I learned about this back in the '70s when one of my dad's coworkers called Shell to offer to let them sink wells on his property, seeing how much money his neighbors were making. He apparently got a new person who really shouldn't have been answering phones, because after looking up the property they told him, "Oh, we've been pumping from that area for the last 4 years, they slant-drilled from the platform on the property next to yours." Oops.
Dad's coworker got to retire a lot earlier than he expected.
Isn't there some kind of legal recourse for this kind of theft, or would the legal fight be just too prohibitively expensive?
Well, since it's considered Israeli territorial waters it would be heard by a court in Israel. Not much likelihood of a positive outcome from that.
Those are not US bases in Iraq. They are actually NATO-staffed bases inside what the media claim are US bases. There are personnel there from NATO countries:
https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/rakettangrep-mot-militaerbase-i-irak__-norske-soldater-uskadd--1.16991278
https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/raketter-skutt-mot-flybase-i-irak-med-norske-soldater/16893607/
https://www.inherentresolve.mil
Operation Inherent Resolve: "One Mission, Many Nations"
And they are active NATO operations in both Iraq and Syria,
https://www.inherentresolve.mil/NEWSROOM/News-Articles/Stories-Display/Article/3857483/live-fire-exercises-in-syria-for-august/
That's nowhere near the headlines of the minstrel media though.
Nice, well informed post. Thank you so much !!!👍👍
Do we all realize that the current West's desperate craving for control of the world's largest oilfields is a clear sign that the whole net-zero-, decarb-, end-of-oil-, etc.-, etc.-trope is just a GIANT SCAM to corral the plebes into serfdom ??? ... 🤔🤔🤔
They joined voluntarily. There's no draft. So they get what they're paid for.
Yes, you play, you pay.
Somehow the press corpse (spelling deliberate) miss mentioning that attacks on US bases in Iraq had stopped, and only restarted THE DAY AFTER that country asked them to leave, *again*, and were told that they were not going to leave, *again*.
People seem to have the idea that all these things just happen in a vacuum, that none of it is connected.
Iraq told them to go but they are still there.....bully's don't like having to back away!
Lol…and Blinken had the Gaul to say that once Russia invades a country they never leave. Meanwhile America is still in Germany and Japan.
If Harris wins I hope she replaces Biden’s national security idiots. Especially Blinken, Kirby and the Smirkula.
You forgot Iraq and the Phillippines.
NOTHING is going to change....getting the British out of India and Sri Lanka took years. The only difference then was that there was dialogue which the US Govt. it seems is incapable of.
A friend’s husband is mad at me because I said “America doesn’t own the world.” You’d think this would be self evident but this belief that we have some kind of “right” to impose our will, occupy other countries, assassinate their officials, confiscate their resources and be offended and justified in seeking revenge if they resist is wrong and must stop. No wonder Israel and US are allies as both have this inexplicable sense of entitlement.
I was going to suggest they are not friends, however, you might have a greater tolerance for shitty people than I do. Something like that, I cut them loose to avoid the contamination.
Same here Landru. I’ve cut a longtime friend out of my life (don’t miss her a bit) and the majority of my husband’s large family off as well. Don’t miss them either, and it saves me from attending their boring family functions 😉
Life has become very peaceful here without various family and friends. Animals and more animals please. I mean the furry kind.
Yes… or as I call them, four-legged family members.
Still searching for the right horse, Jenny.
This beautiful horse will emerge from the next thunderstorm with a bunch of wildflowers in his/her mouth. I just know it.
Waiting for the next thunderstorm Jenny!
Less is MORE !!! 👍👍🌹❤
There are days when one can question their own judgment in choosing "friends". It can be difficult to accept that a person you previously saw as caring is not. We are all brainwashed to see our government as a democracy.
Me too.
The US might not own the world (yet) but they sure want to!
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE OIL, and I don't just mean Gaza.
Armageddon my ass.
If it was your own precious baby with two excellent sniper shots drilled into her head, would you still vote for the party calling for more of your tax dollars to go that sniper? How is voting for the Fraternity’s pick for you to rubber stamp not an act of destruction on democracy itself? Did you participate -as in an open convention - in discerning which candidate spoke most directly to your concerns? No. You were supplied with one chosen by a corporatized Democratic Establishment whose wake of candidacies have fitted most closely their fraternity’s protocol of acceptable ones. And how well has that energized your civic engagement or estrangement? Isn’t it time the dominance, control and exclusivity of the corporatized Democratic Establishment be broken? Remember. Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries helped invite the war criminal thug to speak before Congress. Do we really want Israel determining the quality of our civic life and choices? Are we that far gone in materialism?
Thank you for speaking truth!
As usual, very well said. But I’ll dare say I must look at myself. Nothing short of a general strike and mass riot is warranted, given the genocide. But then again, the US already invaded Iraq on false pretense and did unimaginable damage. This isn’t remotely new. If they could fund and arm a genocide and basically give Hitler 50 standing ovations, being on the inside in 9-11 for imperial aims is not hard to believe for more people than ever.
wwwIII has been going on for a long time now...
It's the same war; the Cold War that was luke warm at best, was just an intermission in a Play.
It's a weird thing but shitlibs really don't like it when I refer to them as such... which is strange cause they are so proud of being shitlibs most of the time.... go and figure
"Vote Blue no matter who!" is an proclamation that one is a zombie or a sheep.
Or just a wanker, Feral 😁
Keep shouting out your truth, the lunatic asylum of Israel is dragging the whole world into the darkest abyss. Iran is not our enemy because they had the temerity to overthrow the dictator Shah imposed upon them in 1979. America's hegemony and obsessive desire for other people's oil reserves has cost millions of lives. Israel's murderous capacity for endless escalation, and psychotic desire for other people's land is going to derail the world. Iran isn't the problem, they've shown astounding restraint despite their sovereignty being violated. Israel has no interest in peace, why else would they murder Hamas's chief negotiator? The Terrorist State of Israel is the problem, and the US not only gives them diplomatic cover, but nuclear bombs. On the 79th anniversary of Hiroshima, the world must take a stand and prevent an eternal nuclear winter engulfing the Middle East, and potentially the human race. Netanyahu will murder all of us to stay in power and out of prison. Sanity must prevail, or we're all lost.
Thank you.
These pinprick attacks on Israel and the United States only encourage further aggression.
The decision makers need to get real, hard, personal consequences. Or they only will continue.
I just had this discussion with people I thought were thoughtful : ( They claim they resistance is playing the long game. I laughed, YOU are out of YOUR FUCKING MIND I said with the certainty I wrote this. I said, long game, you mean after all the Palestinians are dead long game? I said you do know, dirty small amounts of water and 1k calorie diets are a death sentence long game. Looks of questioning, I said many of the Palestinian are already the walking dead. You never recover from those conditions.
It is abundantly obvious that a lot of consumers of alt-media are engaged in wishful thinking.
My answer to all this is.
Put an international peacekeeping force into Palestine....preferably not westerners then disallow any weapons from other governments and allow Israel to implode which it looks like it is doing.
Like a fist fight? A smell each other's ass wrestling match? Arm wrestling?
they are watching everything we say.
I hope so Pretzel. I want “them” to know who I am.
Yeah, and they can't stop laughing.
"Vote however you want to vote, but stop lying about it. " - what? You suggesting shitlibs stop being shitlibs?
I don’t think this about politcal party. This is about Humanity. And what I see, hear, and know intuitively is pure evil. I want no part of this evil insanity.
You're in the minority. Majority will be voting for the lesser or greater evil. They will all, however, claim they voted for the lesser one even when they know better.
People deserve their governments - there's just no way around it.
I know. I will not vote. I’m the man who just wants to be left alone.
I cannot vote for evil, even at my own detriment. I have God. That’s all I want or need.
People are overrated 🤣😉.
I suggest you do as I will do, I will write in people I care about. The write in vote IS seen by both parties. Your vote which might shock you is not private. Both parties know who voted and who they voted for by purchasing the voter rolls. I had many lists of voters during my door knocking/sig. work for Bernie. When you have no choice that is not evil, vote your heart.
Vote for whatever you believe in. It isn't that hard to do.
The K'mala worshippers simply don't mention Gaza anymore. And that's the truth.
Good to see the Democratic party pick someone as youthful and full of vigor as Tim Walz. Almost as inspiring as JFK once was. Would be awful if he was some over-weight, balding guy with thick glasses - Daddy in his expensive suit, here to save us!
Sorry to say this, but Daddy Tim Walz is a staunch supporter of helping "Israel defend itself," just as Kamala Harris is, unless she does a remarkable about face. She has already accepted over five million $$$ from AIPAC. AIPAC, the oil companies and the military industrial complex are choosing our political leaders - they just successfully spent millions of dollars taking down Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush in the primaries.
Daddy's been a bad boy!
Oh shiiiit… CORI LOST????
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Thankfully Rashiba Tlaib and Pramila Jayapal won theirs!
And Cori may have lost but the work she's done and the causes and people she's fought for will not stop there! She said in her concession speech: "All they did was take the strings off." "All they did was radicalize me, so now they need to be afraid!"
Yes..........idiot people.
Why did they take out Bowman and Bush (a Marxist)?
cmon Bush isn't a marxist. i figure Israel is just fine tuning its control.
Even if she was does it matter?
They were both against sending US weapons to Israel because of the genocide in Gaza.
People need to understand how close to WW III we are because of the stupidity and deliberate risk escalation of the US. The media are either sloppy or deliberately hiding the truth.
That base that was attacked in Iraq is NOT a "US base" - it's a NATO base!
The news reports are not comprehensive in actually detailing what happened and who was injured. In fact that base is a NATO base, and it contains military personnel from NATO countries. These countries are all actively conducting military operations in both Iraq and Syria
https://www.inherentresolve.mil/NEWSROOM/News-Articles/Stories-Display/Article/3857483/live-fire-exercises-in-syria-for-august/
In this particular incident there were other people injured, including reports of at least two Norwegian military personnel. There will be other NATOcountries in that base, all of which of course the US use this incident to tell them they need to join an attack on Iran.......instead of taking those troops and going to Palestine and stop the genocide there.
The zionists in the US are extremely determined not only to complete the genocide of the Palestinians but to draw the entire world into a conficlt.
There’s a war going on between the few winners of the money-oriented order (the Pips; People in power) ) and the great majority of the people. The semiprogs (semi-progressives) spend their energies discussing the antics of the officers of the Pips’ army instead of fighting the war.
Thankfully, we'll probably all be dead before election day
We must vote early, then :-)
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"... coming Iranian retaliatory strikes on Israel as a completely unprovoked attack ..." - good moment to ponder for those who are pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine at the same time. Remember, Russia attacked Ukraine in a completely unprovoked fashion. Out of the blue. Just because. 🤷♂️😳
It wasn’t unprovoked, Putin warned Ukraine if they persisted in joining NATO st behest of the US and NATO he would go to war to protect Russian borders. The Ukrainian war is a US and NATO proxy war, Ukrainians are canon fodder for Western agendas. Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer have both exposed the motives of the war mongers and stated Ukraine can’t possibly win it. Yet all peace negotiations early were deliberately scuttled by the US.
Please note that there have been no riots in Scotland, and hopefully there won’t be. Unfortunately we are still part of the UK but not part of England. We have been subjugated for over 300 years. We were cheated during our independence referendum because England cannot afford to let Scotland go. We need help from the international community. How do we get information out when all our media are controlled from outwith our country.
I'm in the US In California. This State will definitely be going to the Democrats, and so all of our electoral college votes will be going to the Democratic candidate. The college is crazed, antique of a system that is in our constitution and it would take a an amendment to the constitution to get rid of it. We are still trying to pass the 1970s Equal Rights(for women)Amendment, so nobody's holding their breath for one killing the college. In my case it allows me to vote for whoever I want...with my meaningless vote. BUT, if I was in a state where it might swing either way, I'd have to vote for her in an attempt to keep Trump out. The Middle East is only going to get worse if he is elected. I agree with most of what's been said here, but there are other reasons that people are supporting her, besides just not realizing how much a part of this tragedy the Biden Regime has played. Our politics are such that it will be one of the two major parties' candidates who wins. A third part or independent hasn't won the presidency since Lincoln in the 1860s. Between the rolling back of what democracy we have that is included in P 2025, and how much worse Trump would be for the Middle East(as hard as that is to wrap your head around) there are reasons for some to support her even if they understand the current admin's culpability with regard to the genocide. Our feeds are mostly appeals for contributions these days. Any time I respond one from Kamala, which is pretty frequently, I explain that t she'll get the only vote I can give her because of the college, but that if she wants a chunk of my social security, she'll have to change her position on Gaza and the West Bank too.
"BUT, if I was in a state where it might swing either way, I'd have to vote for her in an attempt to keep Trump out."
Fuck that shit. I'm in Virginia (which is more or less a purple state), & if I have to vote, I'd vote 3rd party out of spite.
Terry McAuliffe was the last Democratic candidate I've voted for in 2021 in the gubernatorial election race against Glenn Youngkin.
I haven't given my vote to the duopoly establishment since 2022 when I've fully woke up to the Democratic party & turned leftist. I've just turned in my blank ballots.
I will no longer contribute towards corrupt ass politicians from both parties who have been proven to be loyal towards wealthy donors, globalists & foreign entities like Israel, & invites a global war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu (Bibi) who's responsible for committing genocide against Palestinians (who are black & brown people, people of MY race) to the U.S. Capitol, calling him "His excellency," & giving him a standing ovation.
https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1816178499918708901?s=46
Disgusting.
Well said and spot on!
While I agree with most of what you say above, let me play Devil's Advocate...
While being in the US, I hate and loathe it for everything it has done to all the other countries all over the world (and the planet) over the last 100+ years. It has been the single most destructive force (economically, militarily, ecologically) the world has ever known. The world (and humanity) needs a chance to move on and see a brighter future. I can't see that happening with the US being the way it is. It needs to start declining and be put in its place.
That's where I think (maybe erroneously) a Trump presidency might work towards hastening the demise of the US. Trump is so stupid and destructive (in every which way) that he is likely to speed up the decline of the US Empire. Yes, his presidency will wreak havoc on the whole world, but it will also wreak havoc on the US itself - it will exact a toll on the US Empire (which unfortunately a lot of Americans will land up paying for - maybe even with their lives - including myself).
If my hope is to see an end to the malignant and evil US Empire as fast as possible, then a Trump presidency might just hasten the inevitable. I wish there was a way for me to offer some credible evidence/support for such a theory, but I have none so far (and it currently remains as a what-if hypothesis in my mind). Would such a gamble be worth it? Or is the risk/reward ratio not worth continuing to think along these lines...
I see your point, Chang, and I too wish for the demise of the Amerikkkan Empire.
I have but one last vestige of hope left though, and her name is Jill Stein. At least by voting for her my conscience will be clear.
Agree gypsy. When our votes don't seem to matter, the least we can do is to protest vote (like voting for Jill Stein or Cornell West, but not RFK Jr. please).
So, chokaski - in your world Trump is the lesser evil and you will be voting for him? Cut to the chase, it's a simple question.
Oh, Trump is such a bad man. Why don't you list all of President Trump's accomplishments while in office. At least he was working to make a better
life for the American people. What do the Leftists bring to the table?
Open Borders to flood the US with illegal aliens and the taxpayers foot the bill.
Don't forget their war on the unborn and born. They are for born alive abortions.
Governor Tim Walz made sure of it in Minnesota.
Lynn, I don't know about Trump making 'a better life for the American people'. As far as I can see he is making billions for himself.
Do you ever stop to think why human beings - Americans prefer to call them illegal aliens - try to get to the USA.... ?!
Don't you know that the 'benevolent' USA has made life intolerable for them in their own lands? Made-in-the-USA armed death squad violence rampage as civil wars; the freezing of all their assets, imposition of sanctions meant to be a strangle hold on their economies; do a regime change and a handover to their puppets to be as repressive, oppressive as humanly possible.
Right now - if you have your eyes open - you will see a very American coup attempt to overthrow the legitimate government of Venezuela in order to steal their oil and other resources. Your prosperity is built on the graveyard of others. On the plight of all those "aliens".
Do you ever wonder about their plight? Do you ever think it's gross to be greeted by a Trump with obscenely vile and racist rhetoric and lies.
Of course you don't! Very sad.
Your comment makes you come across as an unhinged far-right MAGA something that lives in a world where facts don't seem to matter - the kind of people even an unhinged and narcissistic Trump finds to be unhinged (though he pretends to love them for their votes - suckers).
You don't know what I am. Facts don't matter. What a joke. You better get your facts straight.
My facts are straight enough to know "post-birth abortions" exist only in the minds of the extremely gullible. No aspect of our lives was improved by a huge, debt-funded tax cut for the top of the income heap (which, aside from 3 unearned and unqualified SC appointments) was that administration's only accomplishment. Please list the accomplishments you see which I cannot.
When a human being is born breathing and needs medical attention, that's when. You talking about the 3 Leftists SCJ's? Unearned? Really..
Ketanji Jumanji is the illegitimate one. She gave birth, but she still doesn't
know what it means to be a woman.
>>"You don't know what I am"
I don't care to know what you are.
Read my comment again - I said "Your comment makes you come across as..." I didn't say what you are, I said how you come across as.
Your response indicates that you are doubling-down on your behavior and thought processes (like JD Vance is with his "childless cat-lady statements").
It's not worth my effort to correct your erroneous facts (alternate truths?) - as they are simple enough to verify (if you actually wanted to). As I said before, facts don't seem to matter (to many people on both sides of the aisle), and it doesn't seem like you are the kind of person to let some pesky facts and inconvenient truths shatter your false narratives and illusions.
Since you are not a Capitalist, are you a communist?
Stop lashing out at people just because they don't agree with you. I like
JD Vance a lot. Go get a life. You better brush up on the real truth.
chokaski throwing a fit, what's new chokaski little pussy brat 🤣🤡
Why won't you answer my question, chokaski? you voting trump? you better be, lesser evil and all that crap 😳
"alternate truths" - 🤣🤣🤣
No matter how many letters have been sent, petitions signed, marches marched and demonstrations held, the needle hasn’t moved an inch toward cutting the US military support for Israel or curbing Bibi’s bloodlust. The Dems have done more for average Americans than the Repubs, but both parties have done 0 to stop genocide. Your ballots won’t do anything either. The only thing that may work is massive civil disobedience that has long been suggested by Chris Hedges. Several million people making their feelings clear might finally move the needle towards a ceasefire in Gaza, and maybe elsewhere. We’re all well aware of the wrongs committed by our country. I keep hoping Caitlin will reveal a solution. I think she’s A+ in her analysis and in keeping us focused. Does anyone here have any ideas on how we may best make a positive change?
There are NO 'leftists' in the USA
" if I was in a state where it might swing either way, I'd have to vote for her in an attempt to keep Trump out." - so you will be voting for genocide as a typical shitlib. What's new?
And don't bother wiggling - you offered your "arguments". They're as shitlib as they come.
I suggest since she doesn't need your vote, vote for a write-in showing you cared enough to vote SHE didn't earn it. Voting for two evils isn't a vote I can live with.
If your vote mattered then you’d vote for the lesser of two genocidal psychopaths yet in your long-winded post you still offered nothing concrete as to a difference this would make, as if it’s going to matter at all compared to genocide. You offered comments like “a third party can’t win” so I’ll just vote for something completely against st my interests, ‘cause Trump. Great insight, 🙄.
Interesting that you should mention genocide, because just to be on the moral high round the USA forced Israel to kill all those innocent Palestinians, so now the poor innocent Israelis now free of American bondage, does the right thing and betrays their American Over Lords; one hundred million dead or emmigrated to Argentina.
But, eff it; just kill the Americans now and deal with the Palestinians later; right? Just like patriarch of the Rothschilds said, "I'm a vampire that can never die." Was I supposed to be impressed? He died shortly there after of an undisclosed cause; so, no matter who wins, we all die.
For the life of me I cannot understand your comment.
However you rationalize voting for genocide.
You are making sense. I’d like to point out that Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem in a move that legitimized Israeli hegemony there. A lot of these people doing the protest vote thing will not be affected one way or another, the most vulnerable in our society will. Like the homeless that are now able to be criminally cited for trying to sleep, thanks to this Supreme Court’s cruelty, or queer people who are scared our rights will be on the chopping block next. Like what chance do we have if Roe died and that’s about the human rights of HALF the population?? We wouldn’t have had this happen if Hillary had been elected, and I say that as someone who protest not-voted. So what I learned was that I don’t really want to see what happens to human rights and human dignity in America under a sundowning TFG, and if all progressives’ effort has to go to fighting Trumpian bullshit at home that’s not gonna leave us a lot of extra attention to go around for the rest of the world. Idk. I could be convinced otherwise, but probably not easily
Sorry but you need to think of the thousands dead in the world because of the Dem. warmongering party.