They don't say shit to Israel but Israel is causing all the problems. Therefore, it's the US who wants problems. Well, they've got problems now. The world looks to Arab leaders for sanity in the world; that will never come from Western governments. Now they're saying if you protest genocide, you're funded by and a dupe for Iran. Didn't know I could get paid for opposing US & Israeli genocide! Wow. Ten months of wage theft. The fuckers.
>>"The world looks to Arab leaders for sanity in the world..."
You're barking up the wrong tree here. The Arab leaders (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan) are sub-sections of US Imperialism and they could care less about Palestine and Palestinians. Iran is not Arab, it is Persian. Similarly, Turkey is not Arab, but Turks. Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq are weak states unable to mount significant resistance against Israel.
I guess I spoke too broadly. Was thinking of those nations that have already been aiding Gaza and taking only well-measured responses. Those other nations are in league with Israel and the US so no expectations from them. Thanks for the link.
That peace deal is in name only (and for very specific reasons). I suggest doing more in-depth research on the reasons (and politics) behind the so-called peace deal.
Iran and Saudi Arabia are mortal enemies (and have been for large chunks of history). This history (cultural and economical) is not simply going to disappear because of the signing of some "peace-deal". The reality is always more complex.
" they could care less " - they *couldn't* care less, chokaski. I know you're a stickler for proper language - along with critical thinking - so behave, baby!
Yep. Go to that link and find "The dictionary treats could care less as a variant of the older phrase couldn’t care less because it is so frequently encountered. Logic and grammar are often separate considerations, but many people criticize the use of could care less because it seems illogical."
Or are you now against critical thinking, chokaski? Or maybe you simply contributing to the "frequent encounterings" as you don't care about logic anymore? 😳😱
Hi r_b, I'm sure there must be someone with a nerdy grammar / dictionary /etymology Substack. You're not adding anything to the actual subject of debate, so if you want to criticise someone's use of English why not go play over there?
chokaski said: "The Arab leaders (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan) are sub-sections of US Imperialism and they could care less about Palestine and Palestinians."
Are you saying chokaski meant that the Arab leaders could care less about Palestine in some other situation, but in this one they do care to the fullest? If yes, then can you explain how you arrived at such conclusion? Would chokaski agree with your interpretation?
Please, chokaski would appreciate any help at this point as it's been clutching at straws.
In the past you are right. israel has demonstrated they are a threat to all which from recent relationship changes suggest they know the score if they all face israel one at a time.
Don't kid yourself. The Arab leaders like their western assets, their London trophy properties, their whiskey and their shiny toys.
This is why the Houthi have been the only ones to stand up for Gaza. This is because their leaders don't have any western bank accounts to freeze, any assets to seize, any toys to take away, and they don't yukk it up in Paris or Miami, so putting a travel ban on them won't do any good.
Yemen has endured: Arab conflicts now the western world.
IF you go to Yemen as an outsider you will be welcomed with open arms. You will be invited to the most delicious food, NOT Americans. OF course you will be watched. But if you stay with a local family you might understand life.
It's a bit like going to Japan....iit's a culture that no western people can comprehend.
Hospitality was exploited by the Jews preparing for taking over Palestine as described in Pappé's "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine". The training base referenced is one where they were trained for reconnaissance missions among other things:
"In 2002, one of the first recruits to this special training base recalled his first reconnaissance mission to the nearby village of Umm al-Zinat in 1944. Their aim had been to survey the village and bring back information such as where the mukhtar lived, where the mosque was located, where the rich people of the village resided and who had been active in the 1936 revolt. This was not a very dangerous mission as the infiltrators knew they could exploit the traditional Arab hospitality code, and were even guests at the home of the mukhtar himself. As they failed to collect in one day all the data they were seeking, they asked to be invited back. For their second visit they had been instructed to get information about the fertility of the land, the quality of which seemed to have impressed them greatly. In 1948, Umm al-Zinat was destroyed and all its inhabitants expelled without any provocation on their part whatsoever."
Interesting question. I assume they are coordinating with Hezbollah and as reported Russian defense system installations. Yemen I would guess is will participate. Will the French King of Jordan still be in power if he fails to act with Iran or assists israel, another question. Yemen proved a game changer hasn't it.
I am not to sure Iran does not have nuclear weapons. They have the capacity and could easily increase enrichment with the lower yield they have been producing.
So so tired of the hegemon acting as schizophrenic as they want. Logic turned on it head, and asking Iran, no, warning Iran, that it must heed this illiogicity , and stand down, man, stand down. It’s like spitting on Irans morality and humanity,
and emasculating its honor, to behave and swallow our effluent wholly!!!
That I think is the conclusion they reached. People keep saying to me, " They are playing to long game." I doubt that long game is much longer. If I see israel trying to face each of them separately, they must see that as well. Together no one can stop them. We in the u.s. (lowercase) would take months to move the kind of troops needed. Today's war as we see in Ukraine is a very different war than we have ever fought. One aircraft carrier, one missile. The key I think is if Saudi and Bahrain allow the u.s. to station there. Interesting times ahead my friend, interesting times. If war didn't kill people it would be a fun logic game like Risk.
It’s a head scratcher. Israel has the “right to defend itself.” It’s a unique right, as Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordon, and Gaza have no such right. Israel can even preemptively “defend” itself, murdering infants who might attack it eighteen years in the future!
This is purely a matter of power. Israel has it, thanks to its American thug. Lebanon, Egypt, etc. do not.
To use my favorite analogy when catsplaining to humans: Try quoting Bible verses to an armed robber. He will laugh, delighted in your impotence. He already knows that "Thou Shalt Not Steal" and he does not care.
Now, hold a Colt Python, a big motherfucker .357 Magnum, to that robber's head with the sure knowledge that you will without hesitation pull that trigger and he will be the one on his knees quoting Scripture. And he won't care whether or not you have the legal right to kill him.
I wrote you a story about my old Remington.22 ha then of course deleted even though I have a gun card. Scott Ritter's entanglements make me nervous like they want.
Summer days on a bicycle with .22 on shoulder. No one even looked at me ha. today the world would end. I figured you for a .44
in a post from a deranged chief rabbi. I almost wretched at his statement. Your judgment is inhumane and sickening . You’re disgraceful to the God-loving covenant of fundamental Judaism. How are you so respected as a rabbi??
For myself, as I keep having the scales torn from my eyes, is the shocking revelation that the US Congress and so many other institutions, are owned, lock, stock & barrel, by Israel and AIPAC. I know intelligent people were trying to tell us, Max Blumenthal for example, but it took the sledgehammer of 10/07 and the ensuing insanity of the US elites and Zionists to completely awaken me to the horror of our situation. Everyday I wake up in this new hellscape and don’t recognize many people I thought I knew. The libs I know aren’t necessarily Zionists but they have Trump Derangement Syndrome and care more about keeping him out than they do about genocide. I wish I could wake up and find it was a nightmare but no, I wake up every day now in the United States of Israel. Stephen King could have dreamed this one up and sadly, I believe he will “vote Democrat.”
Stephen King was pranked into thinking he was talking with Zelensky of Ukraine and went out of his way to praise him and Stepan Bandera etc: https://youtu.be/7DmhpKerVq0
Showed what a total doofus he is in reality when it comes to politics. So he must be on board with all Israel's doings.
I have friends in both extremes of the derangement. I feel so helpless because I know that nothing I say will change their views. Entire identity based on propaganda. So sad. I wish I could be blissfully ignorant too
I don't think you could live with yourself not knowing what is done in our names. As horrible as this nightmare is, I refuse not to look and know the truth. Caitlin is a stronger person than I am and I love her for being that strong for us.
".............they stare with Bambi-eyed innocence and call it an unprovoked attack launched by deranged madmen with hatred in their hearts. Are you not tired of having your intelligence insulted like this? I know I am" Me too. I am tired and furious. Who cares about the safety of the planet or the people that live on it when you can have all that money and power and maybe oil. The good old democracy of the US knows what is important.
We never do the loving thing to solve a problem. We put up any amount of thought, expense, and cover-up, telling obvious lies instead. Anything but the right thing. We want the problem and the killing and the earnings. I'm speaking for the ruling class. They know what they do is wrong but insist upon doing it, spinning intricate insulting prevarications to those who question. We scale this up to the vast levels of evil behavior and bullshit denials all around the world, massive problems with no apparent solution. Because doing the right thing is NEVER in the playbook. And only by doing right things will we survive.
Yes, I am tired of having my intelligence insulted like this and so is the global majority- that's why we don't listen to the US blathering on anymore. The US is, by the day, increasingly isolated, impotent and irrelevant.
And by being active in the genocide their credibility and influence will go down with Israel. Every day the US is accelerating the pace towards its inevitable irrelevance. Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and just about everyone outside the Empire know this.
It appears to me that the plan is to come out on top in a nuclear war. "Hey we lose half our population but all the foreigners are dead dead dead. Awesome." That's the only way for the USA to achieve dominance.
But be that as it may, US doesn’t give a flying f****k who sees it as impotent, irrelevant, isolated , etc. it still really believes in its exceptionality , legitimacy,
I actually think Iran is doing all its damage by doing nothing and leaving Izz on tenterhooks. More people fleeing back to where they actually come from- good.
We wonder if they're keeping track of some metric such as number of "terrorists" killed or governments overthrown per joule of energy consumed. But then even so, since they fail all their audits, who cares! Sorry to be a bit flippant, but lately my commentary on this topic has been jam packed with vituperation and I'm fatigued.
Power, I think Iran understands they now need to demonstrate that power without the showy 5 hr drones announced days in advance. Sometimes talking doesn't work.
Which is the American point. There are no nations but America. From America’s inception that has been its view. Its belief in its Exceptionalism and Manifest Destiny, the Munroe Doctrine, all show that America believes it has a right to rule and exploit the world. Capitalists latched on to this attitude and it has allowed them to amass great wealth at the expense of all living things and the planet. 900 military bases around the world ensure its hegemony. If, somehow, America could be destroyed (even if only the idea of America) then it’s probable all of the right-wing governments of the world would collapse along with capitalism.
The hypocrisy and double standards are maddening. It’s a relief to be able to turn to your writing disinfecting this bullshit. It would be glorious to see the living shit smoked out of Israel, but short of that hopefully the psychopathy is decaying their society.
The US acting as a monstrous bully and fuck you to the rest of the world. This pathological behavior mostly based on the blood money given away to assure US support, and the incessant greed to capture and own large oil reserves that surround Israel…
Perhaps these Western prostitutes would prefer Iran 'escalate outside the Middle East'?
You know, bump off Jake Sullivan's children? Or how about assassinate Tony Blair? Maybe knock off Bibi Netanyahu's son in the USA????
The West lost the right to lecture Iran and the rest of the world when it emulated Neville Chamberlain in appeasing the 21st century Adolf Hitler, Bibi Netanyahu?
>>"The West lost the right to lecture Iran and the rest of the world when it emulated Neville Chamberlain in appeasing the 21st century Adolf Hitler, Bibi Netanyahu"
I was thinking along the same lines. I believe the US (and the West) may come to regret their support of the Genocidal state of Israel. It may only be a matter of time... though many innocents will land up paying the ultimate price for America's (and the West's) mistakes...
I always thought it was about oil, but, it's really about war and End Stage Capitalism. With massive debt no one wants to buy anymore ( dollar as a weapon) we are scared shitless there is no way to refinance the debt. Banks holding 5-6 Trillion in failed commercial mortgages as a trigger. The failure of the Japan carry trade for just raising rates a fraction is just the beginning. We shall see shortly my friend.
I doubt the US wants to get embroiled deeper than it already is in the ME (especially if Turkey, Iran, Russia, etc. get involved if the conflict grows larger), but it may have little choice in the matter.
Like I've said before, there are to many unknowns to consider, AND one needs to consider the role randomness (unpredictability and happenstance) plays in events.
It would be more accurate to guesstimate probabilities than issue blanket statements such as the one you do. Also, do watch Maersheimer's video for the rationality behind his reasons for thinking that there is a possibility of greater involvement by the above nations.
Has it ever come out how the attack in Tehran was carried out? I don't buy the planted bomb theory. Too convenient, and I don't think Iran would be about to launch an actual cross-border military strike if that had been the case. But why is everyone on the other side so quiet about the method? Could it mean that Israeli air force jets were flying in Iranian airspace and the Iranians don't want to divulge that?
Hi Caitlin, I’ve read and heard commentators say in interviews that it was most likely a missile launched from a drone. Whether the drone was in Iranian air space is unclear, but there are theories that Israeli special forces infiltrated into Iran, launched the drone, and then escaped.
Others say the shooter was outside and the bodyguard gave up his master. It's vitally important for Iran to correctly uncover the plot because they must know if they've been infiltrated. For that matter, was it Israel that fired the rocket killing Syrian children in Syria (Golan Heights) and then pretended they were victimized on Israeli soil and with Israeli children attacked? The only party destroying non-military targets over there is Israel; Arab opponents have a code of war that is elevated above Western savages but we're not as advanced as they are.
The USA has been horny for a war with Iran for 45 years. They almost did it under Trump but reportedly he canceled the war 15 minutes before the initial assault.
So many people foaming at the mouth out of fear for what Iran and it's proxy, Hezbollah will do soon. As they both have said, the timing will be of their choosing and they are all about running a Psyops mission to try and put fear in Israel and the west. It's working. Just read some of the comments here.
We should give credit where credit is due. These people are working on a plan and no one will know what it is until they unleash it.
Will it be against the American bases in the region? Doubtful because they know that if they start killing American soldiers, the US will unleash their air superiority from that carrier group and other places. Will they unload a whole lot of missiles and drones on Israel? Possible, but not likely. They cost too much to waste. Iran is seriously fortifying their air defenses right now with Russian equipment. Once they are ready, they will do something. If it were me, I would probably figure out a way to get through their perimeter and start assassinating Israeli politicians. Hamas did it so that means it can be done again. Given how people like Smotrich like to run around the West Bank stoking up more violence to the Palestinians, he might be a relatively easy target. There are probably more like him. Netanyahu is too obvious.
On the other hand, maybe they will unleash a hell on earth in Israel with massive missile and drone attacks. They are reported to have more than enough stockpiles to overwhelm the Israeli defenses, despite the Americans, British and the Jordanians helping.
It's like watching a long horror movie. You have been watching the monsters tear stuff up and kill people throughout the movie. Now the anticipation of the heroes or bad guys, depending on which side you are on, is so palpable, that the whole audience, in this case the rest of the world, is sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for something to run out of the dark to grab the guys who have been tearing everything up since the beginning of the movie.
While everyone is waiting anxiously, the bad guys continue to do bad things to everyone around them. They think they are invulnerable from harm. Until the anti-heroes suddenly show up and tear them all apart. In the movies, the shock of seeing the sudden violence come out of nowhere always makes the audience scream and jump.
Is that where the western world is now? Sitting on the edge of their movie theatre seats as the Israelis continue their mayhem, in anticipation of the anti-heroes to come in and take out the bad guys? What happens in the movies when they do? How do you think this movie will end?
They don't say shit to Israel but Israel is causing all the problems. Therefore, it's the US who wants problems. Well, they've got problems now. The world looks to Arab leaders for sanity in the world; that will never come from Western governments. Now they're saying if you protest genocide, you're funded by and a dupe for Iran. Didn't know I could get paid for opposing US & Israeli genocide! Wow. Ten months of wage theft. The fuckers.
>>"The world looks to Arab leaders for sanity in the world..."
You're barking up the wrong tree here. The Arab leaders (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan) are sub-sections of US Imperialism and they could care less about Palestine and Palestinians. Iran is not Arab, it is Persian. Similarly, Turkey is not Arab, but Turks. Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq are weak states unable to mount significant resistance against Israel.
The only hope are the Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon, various resistance groups and factions in Syria, Iraq, Palestine, AND Iran. The Arab World will not come to the rescue of Palestine (for geo-political reasons) - as can be seen from the last 10 months of this Genocide. Pakistan may help Iran, and so too might Russia and China. India has been on the side of Israel - even supplying them with drones and weapons over the last 10 months (https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/6/26/india-exports-rockets-explosives-to-israel-amid-gaza-war-documents-reveal), (https://thediplomat.com/2024/07/indias-arm-sales-to-israel-during-a-war-are-a-political-statement/)
I guess I spoke too broadly. Was thinking of those nations that have already been aiding Gaza and taking only well-measured responses. Those other nations are in league with Israel and the US so no expectations from them. Thanks for the link.
You might be right about that with changes in relationships that have occurred recently, Iran, Saudi peace deal created by the Chinese.
That peace deal is in name only (and for very specific reasons). I suggest doing more in-depth research on the reasons (and politics) behind the so-called peace deal.
Iran and Saudi Arabia are mortal enemies (and have been for large chunks of history). This history (cultural and economical) is not simply going to disappear because of the signing of some "peace-deal". The reality is always more complex.
" they could care less " - they *couldn't* care less, chokaski. I know you're a stickler for proper language - along with critical thinking - so behave, baby!
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/could-couldnt-care-less
Yep. Go to that link and find "The dictionary treats could care less as a variant of the older phrase couldn’t care less because it is so frequently encountered. Logic and grammar are often separate considerations, but many people criticize the use of could care less because it seems illogical."
Or are you now against critical thinking, chokaski? Or maybe you simply contributing to the "frequent encounterings" as you don't care about logic anymore? 😳😱
Hi r_b, I'm sure there must be someone with a nerdy grammar / dictionary /etymology Substack. You're not adding anything to the actual subject of debate, so if you want to criticise someone's use of English why not go play over there?
Rx, I couldn't care less what you think. You are free to ignore the thread, did you know that?
Could care less, means you can care less in another situation so I don’t think that’s what he’s trying to mean
If you say, you couldn’t care less, that means you wouldn’t even think of caring
chokaski said: "The Arab leaders (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan) are sub-sections of US Imperialism and they could care less about Palestine and Palestinians."
Are you saying chokaski meant that the Arab leaders could care less about Palestine in some other situation, but in this one they do care to the fullest? If yes, then can you explain how you arrived at such conclusion? Would chokaski agree with your interpretation?
Please, chokaski would appreciate any help at this point as it's been clutching at straws.
Further down the page: Correct Usage: Either
Apply critical thinking chokaski.
If you "could care less" it means you do care, but you could care less.
If you "couldn't care less" it means that you so don't care that you couldn't possibly care less.
Is that clear now?
Turkey has the biggest army outside the EU!
Factually incorrect. Check out: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/military-size-by-country or https://www.statista.com/chart/20403/largest-militaries-in-the-world-active-manpower/ or https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/military-personnel for more details.
In the past you are right. israel has demonstrated they are a threat to all which from recent relationship changes suggest they know the score if they all face israel one at a time.
Don't kid yourself. The Arab leaders like their western assets, their London trophy properties, their whiskey and their shiny toys.
This is why the Houthi have been the only ones to stand up for Gaza. This is because their leaders don't have any western bank accounts to freeze, any assets to seize, any toys to take away, and they don't yukk it up in Paris or Miami, so putting a travel ban on them won't do any good.
Totally agree with you Feral.
Yemen has endured: Arab conflicts now the western world.
IF you go to Yemen as an outsider you will be welcomed with open arms. You will be invited to the most delicious food, NOT Americans. OF course you will be watched. But if you stay with a local family you might understand life.
It's a bit like going to Japan....iit's a culture that no western people can comprehend.
Hospitality was exploited by the Jews preparing for taking over Palestine as described in Pappé's "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine". The training base referenced is one where they were trained for reconnaissance missions among other things:
"In 2002, one of the first recruits to this special training base recalled his first reconnaissance mission to the nearby village of Umm al-Zinat in 1944. Their aim had been to survey the village and bring back information such as where the mukhtar lived, where the mosque was located, where the rich people of the village resided and who had been active in the 1936 revolt. This was not a very dangerous mission as the infiltrators knew they could exploit the traditional Arab hospitality code, and were even guests at the home of the mukhtar himself. As they failed to collect in one day all the data they were seeking, they asked to be invited back. For their second visit they had been instructed to get information about the fertility of the land, the quality of which seemed to have impressed them greatly. In 1948, Umm al-Zinat was destroyed and all its inhabitants expelled without any provocation on their part whatsoever."
>>"IF you go to Yemen as an outsider you will be welcomed with open arms"
Is that based on personal (and hence anecdotal evidence) experience? Or is that what you think it would be like?
Israel’s attack in Iran was an act of war. The only way that they get away with is is having nukes.
Which they obtained by assassinating President Kennedy.
Are you telling me that the Kennedy was assassinated by Iranians?
No he is not.
No, they get away with it because Iran and everyone else fear their American thug.
I am not sure that is true any longer.
So what is Iran waiting for, then?
Interesting question. I assume they are coordinating with Hezbollah and as reported Russian defense system installations. Yemen I would guess is will participate. Will the French King of Jordan still be in power if he fails to act with Iran or assists israel, another question. Yemen proved a game changer hasn't it.
I hope that you prove correct.
I am not to sure Iran does not have nuclear weapons. They have the capacity and could easily increase enrichment with the lower yield they have been producing.
So so tired of the hegemon acting as schizophrenic as they want. Logic turned on it head, and asking Iran, no, warning Iran, that it must heed this illiogicity , and stand down, man, stand down. It’s like spitting on Irans morality and humanity,
and emasculating its honor, to behave and swallow our effluent wholly!!!
Their rationality is all phony. Get used to it. I have.
The hegemon will continue to act this way until stopped.
That I think is the conclusion they reached. People keep saying to me, " They are playing to long game." I doubt that long game is much longer. If I see israel trying to face each of them separately, they must see that as well. Together no one can stop them. We in the u.s. (lowercase) would take months to move the kind of troops needed. Today's war as we see in Ukraine is a very different war than we have ever fought. One aircraft carrier, one missile. The key I think is if Saudi and Bahrain allow the u.s. to station there. Interesting times ahead my friend, interesting times. If war didn't kill people it would be a fun logic game like Risk.
It’s a head scratcher. Israel has the “right to defend itself.” It’s a unique right, as Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordon, and Gaza have no such right. Israel can even preemptively “defend” itself, murdering infants who might attack it eighteen years in the future!
Right has nothing to do with it.
This is purely a matter of power. Israel has it, thanks to its American thug. Lebanon, Egypt, etc. do not.
To use my favorite analogy when catsplaining to humans: Try quoting Bible verses to an armed robber. He will laugh, delighted in your impotence. He already knows that "Thou Shalt Not Steal" and he does not care.
Now, hold a Colt Python, a big motherfucker .357 Magnum, to that robber's head with the sure knowledge that you will without hesitation pull that trigger and he will be the one on his knees quoting Scripture. And he won't care whether or not you have the legal right to kill him.
I wrote you a story about my old Remington.22 ha then of course deleted even though I have a gun card. Scott Ritter's entanglements make me nervous like they want.
Summer days on a bicycle with .22 on shoulder. No one even looked at me ha. today the world would end. I figured you for a .44
What use is a gun to a cat?
Yes I saw that “murdering infants” allusion
in a post from a deranged chief rabbi. I almost wretched at his statement. Your judgment is inhumane and sickening . You’re disgraceful to the God-loving covenant of fundamental Judaism. How are you so respected as a rabbi??
For myself, as I keep having the scales torn from my eyes, is the shocking revelation that the US Congress and so many other institutions, are owned, lock, stock & barrel, by Israel and AIPAC. I know intelligent people were trying to tell us, Max Blumenthal for example, but it took the sledgehammer of 10/07 and the ensuing insanity of the US elites and Zionists to completely awaken me to the horror of our situation. Everyday I wake up in this new hellscape and don’t recognize many people I thought I knew. The libs I know aren’t necessarily Zionists but they have Trump Derangement Syndrome and care more about keeping him out than they do about genocide. I wish I could wake up and find it was a nightmare but no, I wake up every day now in the United States of Israel. Stephen King could have dreamed this one up and sadly, I believe he will “vote Democrat.”
Stephen King was pranked into thinking he was talking with Zelensky of Ukraine and went out of his way to praise him and Stepan Bandera etc: https://youtu.be/7DmhpKerVq0
Showed what a total doofus he is in reality when it comes to politics. So he must be on board with all Israel's doings.
Ugh!!!! Terrible
Jenny, I am in your nightmare and I stand with you. We are not alone.
It's time to shut down AIPAC forever. Sign and share the petition: https://change.org/outlawAIPAC
Signed and donated my friend. Thank you for doing the hard work for us all.
I have friends in both extremes of the derangement. I feel so helpless because I know that nothing I say will change their views. Entire identity based on propaganda. So sad. I wish I could be blissfully ignorant too
I don't think you could live with yourself not knowing what is done in our names. As horrible as this nightmare is, I refuse not to look and know the truth. Caitlin is a stronger person than I am and I love her for being that strong for us.
".............they stare with Bambi-eyed innocence and call it an unprovoked attack launched by deranged madmen with hatred in their hearts. Are you not tired of having your intelligence insulted like this? I know I am" Me too. I am tired and furious. Who cares about the safety of the planet or the people that live on it when you can have all that money and power and maybe oil. The good old democracy of the US knows what is important.
We never do the loving thing to solve a problem. We put up any amount of thought, expense, and cover-up, telling obvious lies instead. Anything but the right thing. We want the problem and the killing and the earnings. I'm speaking for the ruling class. They know what they do is wrong but insist upon doing it, spinning intricate insulting prevarications to those who question. We scale this up to the vast levels of evil behavior and bullshit denials all around the world, massive problems with no apparent solution. Because doing the right thing is NEVER in the playbook. And only by doing right things will we survive.
Yes, I am tired of having my intelligence insulted like this and so is the global majority- that's why we don't listen to the US blathering on anymore. The US is, by the day, increasingly isolated, impotent and irrelevant.
But unfortunately they're currently still engaged in an active genocide so not yet irrelevant enough.
And by being active in the genocide their credibility and influence will go down with Israel. Every day the US is accelerating the pace towards its inevitable irrelevance. Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and just about everyone outside the Empire know this.
It appears to me that the plan is to come out on top in a nuclear war. "Hey we lose half our population but all the foreigners are dead dead dead. Awesome." That's the only way for the USA to achieve dominance.
Don’t assume we lose only 1/2 our population , the lethality and scope of destruction of enemy nuclear response
cannot be underestimated. And of course
the unknown effects of radioactive fallout
also underestimated!!
Lethality and scope all vastly overstated! https://jowaller.substack.com/p/just-like-scary-contagions-and-911?utm_source=publication-search
I believe you are very right. The u.s. government believes nuclear war is winnable. They tell us every day that is their thought pattern.
"he US is, by the day, increasingly isolated, impotent and irrelevant."
I wish.
you get your wish
If only we knew what is meant by "US". "THEY" are masters at hiding their real identities behind unsuspecting civilians, cowards as they are.
By US I mean the US permanent state controlled by oil interests etc etc etc
Very well said.
But be that as it may, US doesn’t give a flying f****k who sees it as impotent, irrelevant, isolated , etc. it still really believes in its exceptionality , legitimacy,
and relevant to its own propaganda!!
Yes the dying empire still believes its own propaganda and potency. Poor thing.
I actually think Iran is doing all its damage by doing nothing and leaving Izz on tenterhooks. More people fleeing back to where they actually come from- good.
My thoughts exactly..............how much oil are those US ships using parked off Lebanon.
We wonder if they're keeping track of some metric such as number of "terrorists" killed or governments overthrown per joule of energy consumed. But then even so, since they fail all their audits, who cares! Sorry to be a bit flippant, but lately my commentary on this topic has been jam packed with vituperation and I'm fatigued.
Totally understand..... and it's not a flippant answer. The only thing I can say is this all started because of oil.
Same with WW II. It was key even in WW I.
Power, I think Iran understands they now need to demonstrate that power without the showy 5 hr drones announced days in advance. Sometimes talking doesn't work.
That's an interesting take - the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) approach.
Wishful thinking.
Telling Iran « not to escalate » when Israel has carte blanche for any atrocity is a way of telling Iran it is not a sovereign nation.
Which is the American point. There are no nations but America. From America’s inception that has been its view. Its belief in its Exceptionalism and Manifest Destiny, the Munroe Doctrine, all show that America believes it has a right to rule and exploit the world. Capitalists latched on to this attitude and it has allowed them to amass great wealth at the expense of all living things and the planet. 900 military bases around the world ensure its hegemony. If, somehow, America could be destroyed (even if only the idea of America) then it’s probable all of the right-wing governments of the world would collapse along with capitalism.
The main architects are likely in London, Switzerland, Italy or elsewhere. There is no way to look it up and they do not leave traces.
Only sovereign nations recognized by the Hegemon are it s bought for allies
Yes, what will Iran do about it?
The hypocrisy and double standards are maddening. It’s a relief to be able to turn to your writing disinfecting this bullshit. It would be glorious to see the living shit smoked out of Israel, but short of that hopefully the psychopathy is decaying their society.
The US acting as a monstrous bully and fuck you to the rest of the world. This pathological behavior mostly based on the blood money given away to assure US support, and the incessant greed to capture and own large oil reserves that surround Israel…
Perhaps these Western prostitutes would prefer Iran 'escalate outside the Middle East'?
You know, bump off Jake Sullivan's children? Or how about assassinate Tony Blair? Maybe knock off Bibi Netanyahu's son in the USA????
The West lost the right to lecture Iran and the rest of the world when it emulated Neville Chamberlain in appeasing the 21st century Adolf Hitler, Bibi Netanyahu?
>>"The West lost the right to lecture Iran and the rest of the world when it emulated Neville Chamberlain in appeasing the 21st century Adolf Hitler, Bibi Netanyahu"
I was thinking along the same lines. I believe the US (and the West) may come to regret their support of the Genocidal state of Israel. It may only be a matter of time... though many innocents will land up paying the ultimate price for America's (and the West's) mistakes...
The problem is that Iran fears an American response, and the United States is looking for a pretext for an attack.
I always thought it was about oil, but, it's really about war and End Stage Capitalism. With massive debt no one wants to buy anymore ( dollar as a weapon) we are scared shitless there is no way to refinance the debt. Banks holding 5-6 Trillion in failed commercial mortgages as a trigger. The failure of the Japan carry trade for just raising rates a fraction is just the beginning. We shall see shortly my friend.
No. Iran would be delighted to be able to sell oil freely for dollars.
And UST rates do not indicate that nobody wants US government debt.
For that matter, stock markets erased their losses from Monday and Friday last week.
I doubt the US wants to get embroiled deeper than it already is in the ME (especially if Turkey, Iran, Russia, etc. get involved if the conflict grows larger), but it may have little choice in the matter.
Check out https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/israel-vs-hezbollah-iran (and the accompanied video) for more details on that.
US policy is determined by potential arms sales and profits nothing else.
They won't get involved. The US has too many pressure points.
Who precisely is the "they" you are referring to?
The leaders of the countries you referred to.
Like I've said before, there are to many unknowns to consider, AND one needs to consider the role randomness (unpredictability and happenstance) plays in events.
It would be more accurate to guesstimate probabilities than issue blanket statements such as the one you do. Also, do watch Maersheimer's video for the rationality behind his reasons for thinking that there is a possibility of greater involvement by the above nations.
Has it ever come out how the attack in Tehran was carried out? I don't buy the planted bomb theory. Too convenient, and I don't think Iran would be about to launch an actual cross-border military strike if that had been the case. But why is everyone on the other side so quiet about the method? Could it mean that Israeli air force jets were flying in Iranian airspace and the Iranians don't want to divulge that?
Iran says it was a "short-range projectile".
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/08/04/iran-says-haniyeh-was-killed-by-a-short-range-projectile-not-planted-bomb/
This is the account of the missile strike I believe.Alastair Crooke speaks the truth as you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkfEh4bIIw&t=6s
Hi Caitlin, I’ve read and heard commentators say in interviews that it was most likely a missile launched from a drone. Whether the drone was in Iranian air space is unclear, but there are theories that Israeli special forces infiltrated into Iran, launched the drone, and then escaped.
Others say the shooter was outside and the bodyguard gave up his master. It's vitally important for Iran to correctly uncover the plot because they must know if they've been infiltrated. For that matter, was it Israel that fired the rocket killing Syrian children in Syria (Golan Heights) and then pretended they were victimized on Israeli soil and with Israeli children attacked? The only party destroying non-military targets over there is Israel; Arab opponents have a code of war that is elevated above Western savages but we're not as advanced as they are.
I've read that it was a short-range missile launched from a Israeli submarine off the coast. Which makes the most sense!
Tehran is about 600 km from the coast.
I would love to know the answers to these questions!
Eyewitnesses said it from was a missile.
Most likely fired from an Israeli submarine lying submerged off the Iranian coast.
Alastair Crooke's friend was staying in the room beneath the attack. His friend said it was a missile attack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkfEh4bIIw&t=6s
The USA has been horny for a war with Iran for 45 years. They almost did it under Trump but reportedly he canceled the war 15 minutes before the initial assault.
So many people foaming at the mouth out of fear for what Iran and it's proxy, Hezbollah will do soon. As they both have said, the timing will be of their choosing and they are all about running a Psyops mission to try and put fear in Israel and the west. It's working. Just read some of the comments here.
We should give credit where credit is due. These people are working on a plan and no one will know what it is until they unleash it.
Will it be against the American bases in the region? Doubtful because they know that if they start killing American soldiers, the US will unleash their air superiority from that carrier group and other places. Will they unload a whole lot of missiles and drones on Israel? Possible, but not likely. They cost too much to waste. Iran is seriously fortifying their air defenses right now with Russian equipment. Once they are ready, they will do something. If it were me, I would probably figure out a way to get through their perimeter and start assassinating Israeli politicians. Hamas did it so that means it can be done again. Given how people like Smotrich like to run around the West Bank stoking up more violence to the Palestinians, he might be a relatively easy target. There are probably more like him. Netanyahu is too obvious.
On the other hand, maybe they will unleash a hell on earth in Israel with massive missile and drone attacks. They are reported to have more than enough stockpiles to overwhelm the Israeli defenses, despite the Americans, British and the Jordanians helping.
It's like watching a long horror movie. You have been watching the monsters tear stuff up and kill people throughout the movie. Now the anticipation of the heroes or bad guys, depending on which side you are on, is so palpable, that the whole audience, in this case the rest of the world, is sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for something to run out of the dark to grab the guys who have been tearing everything up since the beginning of the movie.
While everyone is waiting anxiously, the bad guys continue to do bad things to everyone around them. They think they are invulnerable from harm. Until the anti-heroes suddenly show up and tear them all apart. In the movies, the shock of seeing the sudden violence come out of nowhere always makes the audience scream and jump.
Is that where the western world is now? Sitting on the edge of their movie theatre seats as the Israelis continue their mayhem, in anticipation of the anti-heroes to come in and take out the bad guys? What happens in the movies when they do? How do you think this movie will end?
The movie will end with WWIII, thanks to IsraHell.
Iran is part of the Shanghai cooperation, a military alliance with both China and Russia.
Putin has already noted that he won’t sit on his hands if Iran is attacked.
Bless this man, a truly great leader.
Let’s all pray the present circumstances do not deteriorate into this reality
Dude, pass the popcorn, please.
Thank You Caitlin
Absolutely, spot on.