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I think a useful observation can be made here: the fact that the Western empire and its technocrats are going so hard on the propaganda and playing an Information war is actually telling that they essentially believe in their own lies. By that I don’t mean they believe the actual lies, but they believe that these tactics can actually get them across the finish line.

The culture wars and info war are in many ways the fake war. The real war is economic. And they have done everything to destroy the industrial and productive basis of the countries they rule, such that now Russia, China and co are actually bringing online a completely new operating system. Only delusional deep staters and a delusional financial oligarchy believes their info wars and propaganda will actually stop what the Eurasian powers are doing.

And thanks to people like Caitlin, more and more see the info war for the fraud that it is.

In this respect, the establishment has in a very real way fallen for its own lies, and the belief in the power of their own lies.

In reality, their entire system is sitting atop a quadrillion dollar derivatives financial bubble—the Big Lie—and it will crash. They already let the cat out of the bag with digital currencies and the Canadian government (one of the “Five Eyes”) freezing bank accounts.

If people have a choice between converting all their funds and savings into digital currencies, all while the entire system sits atop a bubble, and are told they have no choice and we’re getting rid of cash, people will simply frantically move to convert their money into hard assets, precious metals, etc.

All that to say, the closer the Great Reset crowd gets to their end goal, the more quickly things will unwind and individuals will behave less and less like the predictable random particles in some game theory simulation that they believe everyone to be.

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"they have done everything to 'destroy" the industrial and productive basis of the countries they rule, such that now Russia, China and co are actually bringing online a completely new operating system."

I'd substitute plunder (ala Bain Capital/Blackrock) for destroy, as *they*, through neo-colonialism, still in part rule the countries where those industrial and productive bases were re-located. Russia has shoved a shive into their grasping hands, for example all EU automotive plants are shut down because parts manufacture in Ukraine and Russia are off line. This is why Joe Biden is going to go away, and Hunter is just the tool they will use to help move him out. He rushed into sanctions which are killing the profit interest of the international order, the people who pull Klaus Schwab's strings.

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Indeed!

I think that one of the biggest mistakes people can make is to give the oligarchy too much credit. Recent developments have demonstrated just how badly these kind can miscalculate.

They ultimately think in a very formulaic and linear fashion where it’s assumed everything is ultimately going to go according to plan. But when actual non-linear events and processes start arising, these guys are just not that smart, they have a basic set of formulas, and they just keep trying to use the same old thing over and over again. They’re not really capable of thinking in non-linear and highly creative ways; their power ultimately depends on people remaining relatively unable to think in more nuanced terms and unable to break out of the basic linguistic matrix that everyone is fed. As more folks begin to use and explore their creative side a bit and start wandering out of the basic linguistic model that everyone is just supposed to key off of, things get non-linear pretty quickly.

If I had to highlight one place which I think is less explored and needs some serious thawing out it’s the actual vision for a new multi polar economic order where Western nations are actually able to find their place in a multi polar order, at least partly FREED from the Anglo-American capture of its institutions. I feel the Boomer response is to say that will never happen, but I mean, that’s actually the problem. How can you ever expect anything to change if you claim to hate the current system, but yet continue to defend and operate at all costs the very model which guarantees nothing will ever change. The Boomers really need to retire…

One concrete example of what should be done which can unite people of all sides is the resolution in the US to abolish the Federal Reserve, which unanimously passed in the Texas Senate. I know it’s almost cliche, but it’s actually doable and represents a strategic flank, since the Fed really is just a worthless toxic bad bank. The Texas Senate unanimously adopted a resolution to abolish the Fed and essentially convert it into a National Bank, meaning the power of sovereign credit creation would be taken back from the private merchant banking system ie Wall Street: “Third National Bank: We support the abolition of the Federal Reserve and the creation of a Constitutional Third National Bank of the United States, based on a gold reserve foundation, focused on investing in the industrial, agricultural, and infrastructural growth of our nation."

It seems like Americans on both sides would also agree to finally getting rid of the Fed and restoring economic sovereignty. This would effectively unite both sides against the common enemy.

We need more of this.

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Both comments by David G are right on. The terrifying danger of this self delusion and seeming control has to do with those with real power to trigger a nuclear war by becoming more and more actively involved in defending the narrative with military support. Also, skepticism about US wars grows with US casualties. This is a chance for the tough guy politicians to strut and lie with little pain to the public. People too can pretend to care with little cost.

There is still a high social price to pay for those who see this the way Caitlin does. I was very critical of US position up until the invasion. I can understand why Russia did this but the tactic of war seems unlikely to bring the desired result of neutrality along the Russian border and if the bipolar world achieved is just as militarized and police state in nature as the unipolar world this is hardly a great step forward.

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i was right there with you until you made it about anglos and boomers. you cashed in any value you might have brought to the table with those short sighted and undefendable howlings. good bye leftard.

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Jul 27, 2023·edited Jul 27, 2023

While I am an avid supporter of Ron Paul and the End the Fed movement the idea of converting it into a sovereign national bank is no better than where it sits today. So what if the ruling class of politicians who run the Treasury department are making the decisions instead of the ruling banking class at the fed. They are the same people.

The currency will still be debased, debt will still rise, money will still continue to devalue. I would like to imagine that ending the fed would result in a return to gold back dollars but the power of fiat printing is too addicting for politicians to walk away from, its like Hunter Biden turning down crack, it just isnt going to happen.

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every president who tried that paid the ultimate price.

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No, they are literally destroying the food industry, the energy industry etc.

This is a deliberate demolition.

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I was just reading https://michael-hudson.com/2022/03/the-american-empire-self-destructs/. I agree with you that the oligarchy is not a single super-villain but a swarm of rats that can trap themselves inadvertently. I don't think what's happening is entirely by design--I don't think they anticipated Putin's petroruble move.

I like the way you're thinking with the Fed but let me add a new wrinkle. My book, How to Dismantle an Empire, is about forming a decentralized network of public banks owned by local gov'ts with the exclusive right to issue mortgage debt IN THEIR OWN CURRENCY. We could then issue the local currency as salaries and subsidies to put it into the local economy equal to the debt. Gov'ts would have exclusive rights to tax the credit (which isn't dollars) in a way that protects their local production. We could reclaim our assets through eminent domain, along with our education, healthcare and retirements.

If you disband the Fed, you have to take on the debt for everything that's owed. That derivatives bubble (which I write about in my book) is dollarized : it pops and you pop. So let the dollar Titanic sink, and all the rats sink with it. We have a thousand liferafts. What do you think?

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The Great Reset requires the existing order be destroyed before the new order is constructed. Elites think they'll be able to control the construction of the new order after the old one is destroyed. But people scrambling for food and energy to heat their homes my not be as controllable as the elites think.

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We are also seeing various regional leaders reject the demands of the WEF and the Who in particular. I think it was the African congress that rejected any involvement by the WEF and Who in African nations earlier this year. Western regional leaders in Canada flatly rejecting the nitrogen plan for farmers. The Netherlands going into full blown general strike over their schemes.

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people have taken to the streets against medical tyranny on virtually every continent and major metropolitan area on the planet (outside of our own blue shitholes of course). a phenomenon which our fake media has no interest in sharing with us. if it were not for the internet (or what's left of it since "net neutrality" virtually turned it over to the communists/globalists) and our abilities to go over under around and through the many barriers to the truth provided thereon, we would all truly be mushrooms.

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Chipization is a way to control the planet's population. Without a chip, you will not be able to receive medical care, use transport, or shop in a store. A point system would then be introduced to evaluate each person's usefulness to the new society. People with low scores will be destroyed as useless. This will ensure control.

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Yep, I'm inclined to think that way. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Russia knows it will come out of this estranged and separated from the West. A new 'Iron Curtain'. And Putin and his men say okay, fuck it, we tried and tried and they didn't want us and wouldn't play fair.

Let's take it on the chin, have the fight, retire behind our iron curtain and we'll build a rational and working world.

And I think they will.

And I think there's no doubt we won't, didn't, haven't got.

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Mar 1, 2023·edited Mar 1, 2023

there is no viable chain of words that can authentically follow the phrase; "I think there is no doubt..."

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I agree completely with this analysis.

Reading yesterday about how the great Reset crowd has lost control of the narrative in their global pys-op because their media tools and expectations of control are outdated. They panicked when they saw the people waking up and pushed to accelerate their plans which resulted in more people waking up to their evil.

Strategically the WEF has jumped the shark, believing the people still view them as the good guys. Even conversations on stage at the WEF events have bemoaned their loss of influence over the masses.

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Yes, if the American voter dummies keep voting for them, they’ve played a wicked game through to its ghastly conclusion.

How dumb do you need to be to qualify as American?

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The people who are still holding cash when the CBDC becomes reality and is mandated will lose it all, if you haven't diversified your assets by now you may well be too late. The bank lock downs on withdrawals are increasing, I think the banks will convert to CBDC internally with all assets moving over without choice.

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I can think of a couple of other explanations. First, the thesis of Curtis' Hypernormaization was that public confusion is useful in social control. If people are so disoriented that they don't know which way is up, the result is chronic anxiety and fear which is useful for advancing authoritarian power. This is somewhat plausible but I'm not sure the current ruling elites are well enough organized to actually do it, which leads to the second thought. The lies are being exposed all over the place and they are starting to make the liars and their media supporters look pretty foolish. So maybe this is just a reaction to that.

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Rick Vogel Tom; My view is the elite do not need to be that organised. Their constant stimulation of our old brain (shelter, food, reproduction, fight and flight) ie were our next dollar is coming from does most of the work. Also the problem is not that they are lying to us. The horror is that they believe their own lies.

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Exactly, thanks for your clarification.

“where”

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Yeah I have encounterd some who are briliant at their position but total bran washed idiots about how they are so deep in it they can't tell

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This is the tactic of every clever abusive sociopath and despot..its true in the classic family dynamic as it is in the international family and public as a whole.. To keep them so off balance that they can't figure out how they are being manipulated exploited and abused .. That's what the fear eggshells are all about ...That's why the military and cop culture is one of the abusive personality normalized in social structure so they become the fists of the oligarchy and tools of empire... The "why do you make me beat you " mentality built into the system and their entire psycology..

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Again, horribly true.

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Exactly. Then they can come in later and decide whatever they want is the truth. The people will accept that all things to the contrary were just "psy-ops" or enemy disinformation campaigns.

We are living in the age of information, which makes social media dangerous to the rulers of this world. Not only do we have freely available information, investigation, expert dissent and historical record, but we have the ability to inform one another and then mobilize for action. It is every dictator and oligarch's worse nightmare.

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On the one hand they didn't mind having us all survaild through our phones but that carrot on the string of usefulness to keep conected was a double edge sword for them...now that everyone has a camera and computer in their pockets it's hard to put that gene back in the bottle but they are trying... I kept my older phone that I can pull the battery so if I have to I can disconect it..and I have cleaned it of the Google virus for the most part ...I'm working on a new phone that won't be easy to spy on by the Fed's.

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022

One only has to remember who sold, sold for a profit to people associated with the administration, chemical weapons technology to Iraq ala Chemical Ali , and gave Iraq training and field intel on how to use it against non-combatants / own citizens as well as Iran military. They left a huge paper trail, but still deny it happened, and then used these sales as justification for their own war against Iraq when their own reports clearly show Scott Ritter's UN team had disarmed Iraq of WMD.

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It’s the new 4-H club. Hubris, humbuggery, hypocrisy and horseshit.

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So many brazen examples of media manipulation that it really is time for those enlightened American citizens to revolt. That's unlikely to happen, however as lies and false information seems to be so easily controlled with the media ownership, known to be in the hands of easily manipullted investment companies or pseudo Americans (Israelis) after they have freed up some time and adequate resources from neoconning the likes of feeble presidents and politicians extremely anxious to keep their seats warm in the well paid Congress.

Even in little Australia, an island just off the coast of Asia, we note today that the ABC, the government starved national broadcaster, credible almost all the time, asked for donations for Ukraine under the heading “Standing with Ukraine. Donate”. Never once did they ask for donations for Yemen during the last eight years as America and its tame allies like Saudi Arabia, the UK, Israel and many others bombed civilians on a scale in excess of Ukraine, or over the past 50 years as the US through their controllers, Israel, allowed Palestine to be bombed, starved, shot indiscriminately, jailed without trial, sanctioned , disconnected from water supplies and medicines and any number of other inhumane acts.

Why, you ask?

It’s called election time in Australia, one party the mirror image of the other, but both conveniently dancing to the US beat. The current government has starved the ABC of funding, so therefore it is politically wise to be seen to be embracing the 'let’s get with the US sponsored Ukrainian bandwagon’ with the object of influencing the new government (expected by May / June) to commit to funding a national broadcaster in an appropriate manner.

Remember, if you will that every night not so long ago we saw a highly qualified (and courageous) ABC correspondent named Sophie McNeill in and out of Yemen after criminal bombing attacks on schools, hospitals and civilian targets, at great risk to herself, displaying her close sympathetic association to those on the ground in places like Yemen and Syria. So the ABC knew of all these criminal US acts but never raised a penny to help then. Not a murmur.

Why now, ABC? Why now Australia, UK, Canada, and the pathetic and toothless United Nations, all in the process of removing Russia from the UN Human Rights Council.

Now, if that’s not blatant hypocrisy, what is it?

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Yep. Australia is filthily parlous. Why so contemptuous? Because of the high place it fell from and without reason. We had it all. Now we have a simple rotten swamp.

Our figurehead should be Julian Assange. His fate, his situation, mirrors ours, the Australian people.

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Under the British like serfs from 1800 until 1945, (and still hanging in there with a bow down and a curtsey) but now in reality, a fawning servile American colony.

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The only thing worse than a liar is a proud liar, like "National Security Correspondent" Ken Dilanian. Fortunately, just as the value of money declines with inflation, the value of lying suffers as the quantity of lies increases. Telling one too many lies ceases to deceive even the most gullible among us.

For Dilanian to openly flaunt how lying to the American public is heroically helping win the war in Ukraine and make Putin cower in a corner is obviously utter delusion.

What is going on here is not heroic anti-Russian misinformation warfare; it is plain old anti-Truth misinformation warfare. The notion that Dilanian’s or Joe Biden’s public lies can trick Vladimir Putin is on a par with believing Wiley Coyote will catch Roadrunner. It is cartoonishly preposterous.

There is only one reason for a government to lie so often and so badly, and that is out of absolute desperation.

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We'll Know Our Disinformation Program is Complete When Everything The American Public Believes is False. - William Casey, CIA Director 1981

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The message is that it is okay to lie to us because those lies are hurting Putin's goals. Therefore anyone who exposes the lies is helping Putin.

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Will they at least stop lamenting the "lack of trust in our institutions?"

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I wonder if any of this is really news to anyone who is paying attention. (Not many do, but there are some.) It really surprises me when people I consider to be reasonably intelligent do something like cite the _New York Times_ (for one of many examples) as a reliable source of information. _Admitting_ that one is producing and consuming propaganda (not just lies; the best propaganda is sprinkled with truth) probably reflects an urge to impress a sort of middle tier of cognoscenti. These people have been around for a long time, as have the most blatant propagandists, as a sort of higher rank within the power structure. But I would not expect this higher sort of naïveté to be as widespread as it is.

Perhaps it's too frightening to consider that all the authorities, from the emperor down to the janitor's assistant, are lying and the only people telling the truth are eccentrics, madmen, and outcasts. One doesn't want to be an outcast.

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Thank you !!

Interview w/Scott Ritter, April 6, 2022, By Don DeBar -- Bucha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfHohl6gCJY

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Scott Ritter’s tweet – April 6, 2022 (he was immediately banned from Tweeter – soon reinstated without explanation). Scott courageously fought US bipartisan War party’s WMD fraud in Iraq.

“The Ukrainian National Police committed numerous crimes against humanity in Bucha. Biden, in seeking to shift blame for the Bucha murders to Russia, is guilty of aiding and abetting these crimes. Congratulations America…. We’ve created yet another Presidential war criminal !!”

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An acquaintance of mine, the most cynical Zen Buddhist monk I can imagine, once said to me, "What's the point (of engaging with presidential politics)? The moment they take the oath of office they all become war criminals."

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Found on internet: "Our purpose in accusing Russians of doing things that they are not doing is to prevent them from preparing to do things that they are not preparing to do. I get it, I think."

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1. If we end up making them do it, we claim we foresaw it.

2. If they don't do it, we claim we have prevented them from doing it.

3. Or, we can do a false flag to blame them, and show how superior our intelligence is.

4. Worse, if we end up doing it, we can easily justify it up, the media is all ours, anyway.

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Sounds a lot like the Israeli playbook too.

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Anyone who CALCULATES ECONOMIC & RESOURCE CONTROL & PLANNING CONTINUUM needed to establish such as the recent destabilization war in Ukraine or COVID-19 Plandemic & roll-out, or the last 400 years of genocidal colonization wars of N. America (Turtle-Island) & worldwide realizes an coordinated centralized oligarch agenda & capacity, unavailable at lower trickledown levels. These are very long planning cycles & infiltration for system's control at every level.

HISTORICAL REVELATION: Settlers came as economic-ecological refugees from oligarch mismanaged Europe, however financed & shipped as desperate peoples, by these same oligarchs to conquer, occupy & genocide. Before the conquest of 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') Celtic & Slavic Europe by Babylonian & Assyrian colonized Rome & Greece, the very same centralized mismanaged extract & exploit cycle against successful indigenous people & biospheres following the indigenous CIRCLE-OF-LIFE. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/home/indigenous-circle-of-life

The same despondent schizophrenic oligarch false 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') lineage from failed empire to failed empire, continually creates failure & exploits the export of failure & desperate refugees through devotion of whole colonized nations to arms manufacture & perpetual war for the past 7000 years since Babylon.

1st Nations of the America's were welcoming to refugees. 1st Nations responded economically to refugee invasion in a loving & compassionate way, by facilitating the use of the ancient Wampum String-shell time-based equivalency integrated value systems. These same String-shell Cowrie systems had once been an integral part of Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands. Multiple colonial Governor mismanagement of economies was so drastic & obvious that by 1700 AD 85% of economic trades & ownership was established on the Wampum system, leading settlers to greater & greater integration with 1st Nations in intermarriage, trade & joining multistakeholder participatory progressive ownership in 1st Nation Production-Society-Guild enterprises & communities.

Each violently colonizing nation such as Spain, Portugal, France, England & Netherlands were somewhat oblivious to this successful 1st Nation welcoming economic integration. However, the Finance oligarchy, which controlled & still controls all of these superficial 'nations', panicked & commanded each in a coordinated way simultaneously, across all colonies to send military to attack & destroy the Wampum & Quipu integrated value systems of the Americas, which the colonists were thriving within. This same multinational oligarchy instructed its client nations to violently destroy the successful String-shell adoption by colonists & 1st Nation hosts in Africa, Asia, Australia & all islands. We are living with the same oligarch system of command & control failure today. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy

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I guess the spooks have figured out the American zeitgeist all along--we just LOVE being lied to! So come on, CIA/NSA/MI6/Generic SpyMasters! Give us your best "fiction" and entertain us with your creativity... Hey, why not a story about an asteroid coming our way that's going to land smack dab on Putin's army in Ukraine? That should be popular. There was a movie about an asteroid recently, wasn't there? I'd look it up, but I don't have the time...

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They did release the aliens are real story last year, that came across as an insane distraction story.

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"... as I can figure the only reason the US government would release this story to the public is because they want the general public to know about it. And the only plausible reason I can think of that they would want the public to know about it is that they are confident the public will consent to being lied to." This is what I call a transparent conspiracy. It's why they made such incredibly stupid "mistakes" on 9/11, and earlier in the JFK assassination (as Vince Salandria pointed out long ago). It's a way of telling us: We've got you by the short hairs and there's nothing you can do about it, so just grin and bear it -- or don't grin but you will have bear it anyway.

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022

Americans like their cheap gas, and they sort of know how it came about. This is just saying you came in for a dollar, now you're in for the whole crime.

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022

No one here will have lacked opportunities to hear from friends and relatives about the absolute certainty of some of these lies. This is a great link to rebut the pernicious disinformation campaign so characteristic of the US.

I once was the only civilian passenger in a plane into Grand Rapids, otherwise filled with returning soldiers from Iraq. What an eye-opener. I was both regaled and struck by the BS which had been fed to these poor innocents. They told me how Sadaam had routinely raped the wives and daughters of his enemies in front of them and forced them to watch. Knowing they had lost colleagues, I did not have the heart to tell them I had heard the exact same BS story had been fed to Viet Nam soldiers to whip up their fury and pump up their feeble justification for Nam. (It still doesn’t excuse Mad Dog Goldwater and other war sadists from wanting to nuke the peasants of Nam). But the Domino’s pizza theory of Nam was not enough to have even the poor “ heroes” risk their lives. The lack of public inquiry into Nam and Iraq remains a festering carbuncle on America’s backside.

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We'll Know Our Disinformation Program is Complete When Everything The American Public Believes is False. - William Casey, CIA Director 1981

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Gaslighting Government Goons. For another perspective on the Ukraine War, follow Patrick Lancaster on Youtube and Intel Slava Z on Telegram. Not for the faint of heart, but better than NPC uniparty propaganda.

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The main stream media reports (scripted by the CIA, et al) are so cartoonish and full of traditional memes that only children and very unintelligent people would take them at face value anyway. I'm waiting for the "tossing babies on bayonets" meme to be circulated. I think that's the only one not yet used. These stories are so badly done that even Joseph Goebbels would be embarrassed to take responsibility for them. The sad part is when true atrocities are reported we may discount them as more propaganda.

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Baby-eating being held in reserve but they sure played up the wet markets when they were trying to blame China for covid.

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