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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"In a healthy society, a person of conscience would thrive while a sociopath would be shunned and marginalized. In western society it’s the exact opposite: people of conscience are sent to prison, and sociopaths are made president of the United States."

Caitlin, so well expressed! Thank you! ❤️🙏

DLehman's avatar

I think Britain should be regime changed and sanctioned. So should the great USofA.

Feral Finster's avatar

Confucius said that in a just society, it is shameful to be a loser.

In an unjust society, it is shameful to be a winner.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Not sure where you got that quote from, but I highly doubt Confucius said anything like that. That just wasn't the kind of things he wrote about.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I don’t think I’d paraphrase it in that way, especially the first part.

“ The Master said, "It is not easy to find students who will study for three years without their thoughts turning to an official salary."

8.13 The Master said, [ . . . ] "It is a disgrace to remain poor and without rank when the way prevails in the state; it is a disgrace to be wealthy and of noble rank when it does not."

I think the term ‘loser’ does not capture the extent or nuance of his statement. More like when the path is open, it is a disgrace, I.e., shameful, to not make the efforts required for success.

Feral Finster's avatar

"Rank" had.a great deal to do with ststus and I am not sure you understand what the "way".means in this context. In this case, it means not 'a path forward" but "where things are rightly ordered".

Peter Sawchuk's avatar

What did anyone expect when the Western world is run by a cartel of sociopathic terrorists? They will not stop murdering for profit until they draw their last breath. They also don't care whether or not they take everyone with them to Armageddon in their sick, twisted endeavours.

Making Sense of the Madness's avatar

It’s a feature, not a bug. People would do well to remember the old ways of handling this. Literally nothing else will rid us of this affliction.

Tom High's avatar

Pitchforks or guillotine.

J. Lee Austin's avatar

With the "short drop" ... since the long one is too good for them ... a la Nuremberg 😜

Nick Douglas's avatar

Well a long rope or guillotine. The end result is the same - decapitation.

J. Lee Austin's avatar

Of course, but the short drop makes it last a bit longer, which is why they chose it at Nuremburg, or so I'm told 😜

Making Sense of the Madness's avatar

We also have more modern implements that might make the endeavor a bit more streamlined.

M F's avatar

It depends what you mean by implements. Impeachment, legal contestation, convictions have done very little and gone not very far to punish let alone overthrow the Epstein class. The voting system especially in USA leads typically to a choice between Epstein hard or Epstein soft. The heavily armed police, security forces and of course the military itself are brainwashed to follow orders, not the law or the Constitution.

denise ward's avatar

Would you believe it's us that support all this and are responsible for it? What we do in the micro is what is projected onto the macro. This is very important information to comprehend. All we've been told in the past was a very one-sided interpretation of reality. All the ideas - police, constitutions, law, jails, wars, schooling systems, finance, all of it is purely male-designed. Women had nothing to do with all of it except go along or they'd get kicked out of society or their own home. We really need to look inward in all this because we do things to each other that make life quite ugly and our beliefs are incredibly retarded. We still kill our own kind, not just intentionally but SYSTEMATICALLY. OH dear that is so far from what humans actually are about. It all happened when we agreed that it's ok to kill our own whereas that ought to be the utmost, vociferously repeated every time there is a breach of this conduct of intentionally killing our own. That goes against biology. So we really need to start at the ground floor now and build a new world brick by brick.

M F's avatar
Jun 13Edited

Hilary Clinton was a gleeful warmonger all too eager for brown corpses. Madelaine Albright and Condoleeza Rice of the same ilk.

denise ward's avatar

Ok now this is often cited as an equivalence to the ratio of men who do those things. If you look at it in ratios, you can see the big picture because we all know men kill, rape, steal, traumatize, intimidate much more than women like way more. Percentages for example of violent crime cite men are perpetrators in 95% of them (roughly). The instances you can cite women comes nowhere near seeing the big picture of the differential in such a comparison. Do you get my drift?

Elusive1's avatar

I get what you mean, but let's stay away from the divisiveness of male/female, etc ... and "they" (those who rule behind the scenes) built all this for us and we were born into it.

Starting at the ground floor? YES!!!!

denise ward's avatar

Why stay away from the male/female? Why would it be divisive? And why would we not want to scrutinize it even more if it IS divisive? That's a bit like someone bringing up Palestinians in a liberal country club gathering - "oh let's not speak about this it's too divisive". We ought to speak about anything that makes us feel we can't talk speak about, we need to speak about it MORE if it is divisive and get to the bottom of it rather than "sweep it under the rug"

Mu's avatar

Stop killing animals, too.

Tom High's avatar

We lost our way as a species when we moved from hunter gatherers to agricultural land ‘owners’. The cancerous concept of private property as opposed to the welfare of the collective has increasingly driven us towards our current dystopian existence.

denise ward's avatar

I think it was enforced monogamy that set us on the wrong path but it doesn't matter, here we are and now we need to do different things so we can thrive again. I totally agree that private property is a psychosis. Not that we shouldn't have our own domain and for life, but to "own" property and buy and sell it is utterly grotesque. What we could use going forward are databases, public and fully open. And start buying small parcels to start new life villages on where the land is allocated for life and can be swapped using a simple database. When we take profit out of the equation, the world gets back on its feet.

Just Sayn's avatar

I agree but add that women to are guilty as they have always had a voice just never applied it openly.

Just Sayn's avatar

In my opinion, When men or women hire themselves out to be enforcers for the violent,coercive state for a share of the loot, then all decent men and women should look in them with Revulsion and loathing. This applies to police, military, and politicians. Upton Sinclair stated-"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his Not understanding" .this applies to all others on government payroll including Contractors of any type.

Making Sense of the Madness's avatar

The state is just a fiction created to serve the oligarchs. It’s a pretext to justify enforcing their predation. But this illustrates the power of belief. Belief can give even fiction life if enough people do it. It’s like one of the oldest and most enduring gaslighting operations.

Just Sayn's avatar

Exactly. One of my favorite quotes by- Edgar Rice Burroughs,The Gods of Mars.

"The whole fabric of our religions are based on superstitious beliefs in lies that have been foisted upon us for ages by those directly above us.

To whose personal profit and aggrandizement it is to have us continue to believe as they wish us to believe."

The Power of Superstition is immense.

Mu's avatar

We need drones.

Just Sayn's avatar

By old ways I recommend Gallows and Guillotine for those sitting in judgement. And those making Truth a crime.

salience's avatar

Desert island with one small coconut tree.

Phil Ingram's avatar

Thank you Caitlin - you are brilliant at putting into words what so many of us are thinking - the world really is upside down!

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

The Matrix - you can't get out while you don't know you're in.

denise ward's avatar

Now that we know we are in a matrix, now what, would you say?

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Resist! And Caitlin keeps providing the truth.

denise ward's avatar

She is a stalwart defender of truth. Not many are as intrepid as she is. Palestine is something we should continue to be vociferous about.

Davina's avatar

It sure is, and more so now with two unstable leaders, who should never have been allowed anywhere near the position of leader, let alone be one. They have caused so much pain and suffering so they can stay out of prison where they belong. Satanyahu is a born liar and warmonger, like Drumpf everything they touch turns sour or collapses. They have one interest in life - themselves, and their pleasure. Sociopathic Drumpf, the convicted rapist, and zionist Satanyahu the leader of a country built by and for rapists. Between them they have turned the world against itself.

If they are not stopped, and soon, this planet will become so totally corrupted that the only way to fix it, and them, is to blow it up and start again.

Get back to when men hunted for the food, and the women ruled the tribe, and I do mean ruled. But find an isolated island far from any other people and place the zionists and rapists there, obviously with no way to leave by using Israel's own surveillance method to keep them IN rather than others out.

Yeah, I know, how can we do that if we blow it all up? We are already heading that way, so let's control it. There will always be survivors who know how to do all sorts of necessary stuff, who will gravitate to each other - same as the usual perpetrators will, that's why we need to be ready to nip them in the bud, pronto. Also next time, can we have some decent assassins, at the ready, that actually know how to hit a target?

X K's avatar
Jun 13Edited

“The UK has sentenced four anti-genocide activists to years in prison on terrorism charges… The BBC reports that this is believed to be the first time anyone has received a terrorism sentence for property damage. Amnesty International has slammed the sentencing as ‘completely disproportionate’ to the crime.”

Should you be suffering from a severe case of iron-y deficiency, take one dose each of these, as needed:

1) This June 15th marks the 811th year since the signing of the Magna Carta, you know, that “back of the envelope” sort of thing that documented the liberties of “free men,” which later inspired the American Bill of Rights. Thanks to presiding Justice Jeremy Johnson, year 812 may not prove necessary to observe, for all intents and purposes.

2) “Machine guns… opened fire on the Palestinian village [of al-Bassa] before [troops] arrived with flaming torches and burned homes to the ground.”

“Villagers were rounded up while troops later herded men onto a bus and forced them to drive over a landmine which blew up, killing everyone on board.”

“A… policeman photographed the scene as women tended to the remains of their dead, before maimed body parts were buried in a pit.”

Think that was just another day on the job for IDF? Guess again -

“It was the autumn of 1938 and UK forces were facing a rebellion in Palestine, under British control after the defeat two decades earlier of the Ottoman Empire.”

“Britain's raid on al-Bassa was part of a declared policy by the local commander of "punitive" action against entire Palestinian villages - this one after a roadside bomb had killed four British soldiers - regardless of any evidence over who was responsible.”

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These quotes were taken from a BBC story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63145992, which also included this:

“The atrocity was revealed in accounts by soldiers and villagers decades after the UK left. It now forms part of a file being brought to the British government seeking accountability for Palestinians subjected to alleged war crimes by UK forces.

“The petition, involving a 300-page dossier of evidence, asks for a formal acknowledgement and apology for abuses during the period of British rule in Palestine from 1917 until 1948, after which Britain rapidly withdrew and the State of Israel was declared.”

Guess what. All this terrorism that the Brits are getting their “knickers all in a twist” over, and the Zionists want to smear anyone who criticizes the genocidal entity with, was practiced by the fornicating Brits during the Mandate, and picked up by the equally fornicating Zio-depraved and practiced to the present day by them because a) it sure did a number on Arab resistance to Brit-Zio collaboration against them back in the day, and b) it sure was, and continues to be, fun to cause grievous, gratuitous harm on people.

[Addendum - For more on the "Downton Abbey" crowd see Pulitzer Prize winner Caroline Elkins' "Legacy of Violence: A History of the British Empire"]

Frank Sailor's avatar

Wow! You're on a drift but 95% right. I am with you. The only thing we should remind ourself of, is not to turn into what we are fighting against.

>>Also next time, can we have some decent assassins, at the ready, that actually know how to hit a target?<<

What do you need them for if we take care of each other as humans, humans with equal rights by accepting that we are not equal through the phases of our life's.

Being once a strong young man, I am very aware of the fact that there will be a day that I will need help of someone younger than me, to help me survive in dignity until my time has come.

Mary's avatar

How to blow up human society whilst saving the natural biosphere? We need nature to survive. Yet that's what 'we' are destroying in these stupid, selfish, ugly games

denise ward's avatar

Yes but do you know WHY it is upside down?

John Day MD's avatar

I'm sorry the UK is treating people with conscience so unjustly, as they did with Julian Assange, essentially torturing them in public as an object lesson.

denise ward's avatar

It is a projection of our own cowardice, I don't necessarily mean you or anyone reading this but us, "the sh!tkickers". We do it to each other on the personal scale and so what we get on the macro scale is exponentially what we are. It can go the good way too. But right now, it's going all the way BAD.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

"They’re actually punishing people for not acting like sociopaths."

They are. It's like we're all living in a surreal comedy, but unlike a Monty Python sketch, it isn't funny. Seriously, we've got to lock up the sociopaths so those with a conscience are allowed to live and thrive. Our planet and our children's future depends upon it.

M F's avatar

War = Peace

Freedom = Obedience

Money = Speech

Education = No Questions

2026 = 1984

denise ward's avatar

Peace = ? (what is your concept of it, how do you envisage peace?)

Speech = ? (what do you regard as speech? Is it all speech, or some speech, or speech with conditions?)

Education = ? (what is your concept of a stupendous (not just ok) education?)

2026 = 005/006 (This has something to do with change we can have this year if we choose to)

M F's avatar

No War = Peace

Freedom = Right to Disbedience

Open Discussion = Speech

Education = Curating (old Knowledge) and Exploring (new)

1984 = 2026

Fiona Colin's avatar

How maddening that those who will eventually be generally recognised as criminal will never be punished.

On May 4, 1970, four Kent State University students were shot dead on campus by police - for protesting the war being waged on Vietnam.

Susan T's avatar

"The agenda to dominate and control the entire human population is evil, because it can only be accomplished through nonstop war, militarism, propaganda, deception, and tyranny." Wanting to dominate and control the entire human population is immoral, wrong, inhuman, inhumane however it is accomplished. Sometimes the people that seem the most kind and empathetic are manipulating us. Not always. We need to pay attention to actions and less to empty statements and promises. We need to learn how to tell the difference between propaganda and truth.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Add Gaza to every Holocaust Museum or close them.

KRedbeard's avatar

mandate that every holocaust museum talk about the Nakba, the Naksa, and the Gaza Genocide.

That or they lose all state funding.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

A backwards dystopia is right. Anyone with a conscience these days is in deep emotional pain.

JennyStokes's avatar

Correct............it's hard to get on with life.

denise ward's avatar

Yes dystopia comes from having men make the overwhelming amount of decisions. The female aspect is totally devoid of not only being heard, but even fathomed.

Nick Douglas's avatar

Absolutely incorrect on all aspects. For example, most of war criminals in EU today are actually women. Do I really need to list them all here? The recent history has shown that women in power are not better than men in power and have not reduced wars and violence but in fact increased it. An asshole or war criminal is gender neutral word.

Feral Finster's avatar

Power selects strongly for sociopathy.

Eddie's avatar

This is a tale as old as time: everyone against the war is always branded as the criminals. Now I have as much disdain for the UK as I have for the US. The rotten apple really don't fall far from the tree. Western society cannot be redeemed.

I'm going to leave it there.

Nick Douglas's avatar

I share the same thoughts. 99.9% of all evil, wars, misery, injustice, genocides, theft. etc. comes from the western uncivilization. The west does it or directly or through their proxies. West = Satan.

Feral Finster's avatar

The uk and the europeans in general play the role of Grima Worntongue.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

The US empire and its vassal states are gunning for the dissidents. Trita Parsi will be one of many. Being a foreign policy analyst - and a good one - he was always a target. They started with protesting students, truth telling academics, and before long they will have lists as long as the un-American activities lists of yesteryear.

Maybe that is why the West is not so vociferous anymore about their values and way of life.

Davina's avatar

It's really quite crazy when you stop and have a think, two countries, one 250 years-old and the other 74 years-young are out to dominate the world. Are we really going to allow that?

Nick Douglas's avatar

Because it was always western bullshit propaganda of checks & balances, democracy, freedom, and human rights. None of that was ever true or existed in real world. Just a propaganda for materialistically-obsessed masses. The curtains are down now and the satanic west is naked and exposed.

Nancy's avatar

In addition, Democratic politicians and voters in the U.S. who support a genocide, directly or indirectly through their votes, are called “moderates” or “centrists.” If evil had not been normalized here, they would be called extremists and right-wing Democrats. After all, what is moderate about a genocide? And, although we often hear about the Democratic Party’s “left wing” in U.S. media, or “the left,” you never hear or read about the party’s right wing or “right.” The application of the latter label is confined to the Republican Party. But if you have a “left” in a party, it makes no sense to have a “center” without also having a right. This is just a thought experiment for my fellow U.S. readers/listeners. What reaction do you think you would get from your fellow citizens who self-label as Democrats and vote for candidates who support a genocide by referring to them as “right-wing Democrats?” The answer is exactly why they’re not called right-wing Democrats. The relentless propaganda machine in our country protects them, and they protect themselves with the “moderate” label. We need to stop protecting them.

Eat me's avatar

Great article. So true. Recent extremist crap started with the fascist orange freak' and his repellent sycophants and the isrehell nazi fascists. Actually the states has always been extremely right wing. Never been worse than now. Long live Free independent speech. Fuck the fascists

jamenta's avatar

Uncertain justice, mass surveillance, terror, human isolation: these are the hallmarks of a dictator state. It's nothing new in human history - but then, so is our own mortality. Can one believe in anything more?

denise ward's avatar

I think you could just say state. All statism is dictatorial. It does do a lot of window dressing to pretend it isn't. But it will always be. Although THAT is not the problem. The problem is BELIEVING in the state and obeying the state. But if one didn't believe in it, they wouldn't obey it.

jamenta's avatar

Most criminals don't want any laws to apply to them - especially billionaire criminals.

Elusive1's avatar

Dark times.

Super reporting with perspective thrown in.

Thank you!