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Fredrick Baumgarten's avatar

As I and many others saw it, the “ceasefire” is a con job and a fiction.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

The establishment of the State of Israel is a con job. Never forget the Gaza Genocider. Control the narrative. Free Palestine. Stop Israeli Terrorist supporters.

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Ron Harold's avatar

Trump says ‘clean out that whole thing’ as part of his plan for Gaza The US president suggests that Jordan and Egypt should take more Palestinians from Gaza

Trump, nor anyone else has a legal or moral right to dictate and control the Palestinian people. Trump, Republicans and Democrats do not believe Palestinians have a right to live on Palestinian land.

https://progressives.substack.com/p/trump-says-clean-out-that-whole-thing

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charles leone's avatar

Correct! Trump and his billionaire friends look at Palestinians the way they look at American poor people of color:

Animals to be removed from slums.

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includeMeOut's avatar

And the way they looked at the American Indians as people who needed to be eradicated as impediments to “progress and civilization”.

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Susan T's avatar

One of the most disgusting things to me about this "ceasefire" and the release of Palestinian hostages is that Palestinians are not allowed to celebrate. At least one person has been shot for being happy to see a released person and at least one child has been shot for celebrating this "ceasefire".

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Trump is free to bring all white khazarian converts from monstrosity called israel to USA and leave Palestine to Palestinians. Problem solved and historic injustice partly corrected.

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Klonda56's avatar

Half of them already have American passports.

Perhaps they should be deported to Ukraine where many actually hail from.

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Marten's avatar

The Orange Trojan Horse will do anything for the Talmudic Masters aka Irahell !!!!

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Carsten's avatar

Didn't his (despiccable) son in law, Jared Kushner, late last year made a comment that the strip was prime real estate? Leaves really not much room to envision who is going to make a killing from the killing, does it?

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pyrrhus's avatar

Prime to whom? A million dollars couldn't convince me to move there....

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Some people would move there for free... They have no soul, no morals.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Even if the scenery were attractive, which it isn't, how could you live with the knowledge that many thousands were slaughtered on that ground?

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russian_bot's avatar

Watch this: https://www.tantura-film.com - you'll know how.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

It is simple pyrrhus, if they were the ones who did the slaughter.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Jsred Kushner to the "rescue". Rescuing the playing field for the ultimate beneficiaries of all the empire's bloodletting—the capitalist vampire investors who own the world and swear it's theirs to own twice. (And you and I can goddamned well have a job cleaning goose shit off their golf courses.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Now, watch Team D suddenly pretend to care about human rights.

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ikester8's avatar

Every goddamn time there's a change in party in the White House, all of a sudden, we antiwar types have a shallow pool of allies that will disappear again in 4-8 years. Not a principled one among them.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Trump’s genocide in Yemen is most instructive. Team D made high minded speeches and even passed a resolution, giving Trump an off-ramp.

Trump vetoed it.

Then, once that genocide became Biden's genocide, those same stalwart human rights advocates suddenly developed amnesia.

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Jenny Mingus's avatar

They did the same when Biden continued all of Trump’s immigration policies, including those immigrant detention centers they called concentration camps when Trump was in charge of them.

You can’t count on liberals for jack.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

I think this has been the plan since BEFORE 10/7/23. Mossad has a reputation as the most thorough and most ruthless of spy agencies, and Gaza has been the most spied-upon people in the world. Seems unlikely they really were asleep at the switch and didn't know this was coming. Add in how much it benefited them, as long as they didn't mind sacrificing 1000 Israelis, to get the international justification for kicking off the campaign.

But it's not just resettling Gaza (and eventually the West Bank with ethnically pure Jews--they also want to exploit the offshore gas fields without giving any money to Palestinians, and to build a canal to compete with the Suez, planned to run along the northern border of Gaza.

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Mark Keating's avatar

Israel was completely willing to sacrifice all of those taken prisoner on Oct. 7 merely to keep them from becoming leverage in hostage negotiations, ie. the Hannibal Directive. Sacrificing people, even Jews, to maintain and advance the Zionist colony has been standard practice since (and during) WWII.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

The Hannibal Directive is derived from the same type of thinking that the Zionists perpetuated during the Third Reich. They were willing to let the Nazis kill the majority of European Jews in exchange for Reich assistance in getting the wealthy ones out of Germany to Palestine.

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Landru's avatar

I had just read the history of that by the leadership of that Zionist movement. Thank you for that.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Note that none of the founders of Israel were Holocaust survivors.

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Mark Keating's avatar

True. They just exploited that tragedy to accelerate the creation of their colony in Palestine. There is also a strong argument that Mossad used false flag ops in present day Iraq, Syria, and Jordan to create the illusion of antisemitism in those places, to reinforce the narrative that Jews could only be safe in Israel. When in fact

Indigenous Arab Jews had been integrated in the larger society peacefully for thousands of years.

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Paddy McQueenie's avatar

If all the other Arab Countries do what Britain France Belgium Russia did on the run up to World War Two they will regret not giving The Mass Murderer Netanyahu Trump and Starmer an Ultimatum on the Future of Palestine which in my eyes is a Sovereign Nation and should have been Recognised as such by every Government in the World Years Ago the Reason it has not been Recognised is simply because if the Worlds Governments had Recognised Palestine as a Sovereign Nation the Jews could not have Committed the Crimes against Humanity and Genocide ending in The 21st Century Holocaust. This Jew attack and Genocide is an OUTRAGE and all who Support This OUTRAGE are Complicit with this Heinous Crime Against the Palestinian Nation No Jew not a Single one of them can ever Decry the Nazi Germany Regime of Terror whatever Cause they had and there was Many they themselves have Blown this Apart. And they can take their Illegal IHRA and Shove it and The English Parliament can arrest me For Misspeaking or even Hatespeak Well I’ve been arrested before in my Youth I am now approaching 74 I have been a Socialist and Trade Unionist all My Life and I will Never be “GAGGED BY AUTHORITARIAN DYSTOPIAN LIARS” No Government who tells their own Population that they are Fortunate to Live in a Democratic Society Have The RIGHT OR AUTHORITY to Enforce upon this Population an Illegal Gagging Law from a Foreign Power Forbidding the People of the United Kingdom from Using a Corner Stone of Democracy FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Clean out Governments of the world controlled by Israel. They are trashy traitors to the People of the world for Peace.

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Denyse D Turcot's avatar

Every day we hear of more and more disgusting news. It is to the point that it feels like we are looking at a real science fiction horror story - only it is real! We are discouraged to think that we need to hear Trump talk for the next four years? impossible! And, the other thing is that many people have NO idea of what is going on. We know a fair amount because we have the station Aljazeera. If we did not have that we would be relying on what you can find out on uTube. We also have a friend who lives in the Westbank and keeps us up to date...horrifying. I feel people all over the world feel, maybe think that many things are not right..they have a mailaise but do not really know why.. how to live with this? .

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Ron Harold's avatar

Caitlin means very well but obviously has no military experience or knowledge, because if Caitlin did have such military knowledge she would be talking about how RIDICULOUS IT IS for Donald Trump talking about relocating millions of Palestinians, considering the military fact that neither Israel nor any other military force will succeed in eliminating Hamas from Gaza.

It's quite simply not going to happen. No state actor has ever defeated an indigenous insurgency on their own land. Ask Vietnam veterans and LBJ about that deal.

Hey Caitlin, talk about WHAT WILL HAPPEN if Trump and Muslim-hating U.S. Sec. of Defense Hegseth decides to send U.S. forces into Gaza: American soldiers will be sent home in body bags and the U.S. Ziomedia and Pentagon will restart the War on Muslims until the U.S. is 911'd again.

Trump says ‘clean out that whole thing’ as part of his plan for Gaza The US president suggests that Jordan and Egypt should take more Palestinians from Gaza

Neither Trump nor anyone else has a legal or moral right to dictate and control the Palestinian people.

Trump, Republicans and Democrats do not believe Palestinians have a right to live on Palestinian land.

https://progressives.substack.com/p/trump-says-clean-out-that-whole-thing

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Landru's avatar

I can assure you, Caitlin is not naive.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Could you please write "neither" Trump nor anyone else? which is the correct language.

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Ron Harold's avatar

Thank you so much Carolyn! I hope you're having a wonderful day.

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Igor's avatar

Hamas is not indigineous insurgency, it is a creation of Israel and USA to discredit PLO and lead to eventual full takeover of Palestine.

NWO needs (great) Israel as its HQ.

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Ron Harold's avatar

stfu...you're a Zionist propagandist....Hamas was formed as a direct result of Israelis murdering and kidnapping Palestinians from their homes, dickhead.....I studied this 30 years....STFU.

I don't hear your Zionist ass talking about the Palestinian people's legal right to form and maintain armed resistance groups....GTFOH.

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Igor's avatar

Learn the history or you are just a [t/f]ool to be used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0

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martin's avatar

maybe address the paragraph on the 'voluntary migration'-ploy.

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Stephen Walker's avatar

Trump and his criminal pronouncements are disgusting, but if there is one thing that we should have learned over the last 15 months, no one is going to be able to remove the Palestinian people from Gaza. The genocidal IDF was defeated. In the weeks leading up to the ceasefire they were getting completely smoked in both Beit Hanoun and Rafah. They took dozens of casualties every day. Israel didn’t just decide to do a ceasefire and exchange deal. They were forced into it by the resistance. Neither Trump nor the psychopaths in Israel can defeat the people of Gaza, and all their talk about “cleaning it out” is pure delusional fantasy. The parade in Gaza City two days ago for the handover of POWs shows clearly that the resistance is not weakened, in fact it almost certainly is evidence that it has increased in strength.

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JennyStokes's avatar

100% correct.

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Ismaele's avatar

I am also writing an article on this (and the end of the ceasefire agreement between Israel and Lebanon) on my substack: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/

It should be ready later today.

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Ron Harold's avatar

Trump says ‘clean out that whole thing’ as part of his plan for Gaza The US president suggests that Jordan and Egypt should take more Palestinians from Gaza

Trump, nor anyone else has a legal or moral right to dictate and control the Palestinian people. Trump, Republicans and Democrats do not believe Palestinians have a right to live on Palestinian land.

https://progressives.substack.com/p/trump-says-clean-out-that-whole-thing

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Klonda56's avatar

Exactly.

This is going on while the US govt attempts to imprison minority activists in the US such as the Uhuru 3, falsely accusing them of collaborating with foreign govts to interfere in US domestic affairs.

But actually the US govt has no business telling Palestinians or Lebanese or Iranians where to live or whether they should be represented by Islamic parties.

And it’s hilarious Trump is sending the army to shut the US borders…..while telling Jordanians to take in immigrants.

I mean if he is so convinced the Palestinians should leave Gaza….then admit every single one to the US and give them US citizenship then!

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Nick Douglas's avatar

What do you expect from the nation that deeply believes it is exceptional. Superior. Manifest destiny. They will steal from everyone they can and kill those that cannot defend themselves.

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Capt. Eissa's avatar

Trump, the Israelis and all those in their malevolent cult can plan and say what they want, they can use their powerful arsenals and tactics against us but they will never be able to get us out of Gaza.

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Klonda56's avatar

WTF businesses does the US president such as Biden or Trump, have telling Palestinians people where they should live?

This is just disgusting colonialism.

Any nation that actually opposes this needs to start calling this out openly for what it is. Colonialism.

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Gregory May's avatar

I don't how Israel can thrive on the dead they killed. Sounds like a recipe to be cursed. That's just how the USA was founded. I think we may be cursed.

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gypsy33's avatar

Gregory, YES, Amerikkkans ARE cursed for what white Europeans did to the Native people.

IsraHell is cursed because of their ridiculous beliefs believing they are god’s “chosen” and that some god bequeathed them a certain piece of real estate. Look at the stats: IsraHell is the most despised country in the world and most people wish it would just disappear.

Poof.

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David Baird's avatar

Bloody oath, Gypsy! What sort of god picks favourites? These 'chosen people' need a strong dose of reality together with some cult aversion therapy.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi David

Loved “bloody oath”…. What class! I’d have said something along the lines of “what the fucking hell” 😉

Also loved “cult aversion therapy”…that’s exactly what it is, a cult. If there actually were a god, he/she wouldn’t play favorites, or bestow a certain cult a particular piece of real estate.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Neither Israelis nor Americans care.

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Laith 🔻🇵🇸's avatar

Yes, they plan, and if they could, they would plan to eliminate every Palestinian. But after surviving 15 months of genocide, enduring unimaginable horrors, and facing an unprecedented oppressive force, do you really think Palestinians will simply give in because Trump says something?

Trump is not a god, and his plans will fail in the face of the strength and resilience of the resistance. The resistance has shown us, time and again, what they are capable of. We trust them, stand by them, and, most importantly, we continue to spread hope, faith, and unity until God’s victory comes.

First, we know that Jordan and Egypt cannot say “no” to Trump, but with the escalating crises in both countries, Sisi and Abdullah know that a decision like this will ignite the anger of millions of citizens. And in both cases I see both regimes coming to an end by 2025.

It’s possible that they may manage to deport five, ten, or even twenty percent of Gaza’s population, but this will not change the essence of the equation in any way. They displaced 750,000 Palestinians in 1948..

Lets see ✌🏼🔻

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gypsy33's avatar

Exactly Laith!

What are they planning on, herding Palestinians into cattle cars to deport them?

( Sound familiar?)

The Palestinians will not accept this. What the hell more can we do to them?

Any attempts to deport them will be met with the likes of resistance the world has never seen. This will be the time for Iran to step in and, eventually, Russia. My hope is the the Gazans will offer Russia a naval base; nice protection there!

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

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Michael's avatar

90% of homes are destroyed and most of Gaza is uninhabitable. True? If they build a beautiful place to live in Egypt or Jordan, wouldn’t people go? I would. Perhaps offer annual income to live on also. But, my bet is they won’t offer such reparations. They don’t care enough.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"f they build a beautiful place to live in Egypt or Jordan, wouldn’t people go? I would."

THAT is the difference between YOU and the Palestinians. Palestine means something to Palestinians (that have lived there for generations).

I suggest reading the book "Orientalism" by Edward Said (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/355190.Orientalism) to understand how their CULTURE is VERY DIFFERENT from "Western culture" (i.e. your thought processes).

A quote from Orientalism ->

“Every single empire in its official discourse has said that it is not like all the others, that its circumstances are special, that it has a mission to enlighten, civilize, bring order and democracy, and that it uses force only as a last resort. And, sadder still, there always is a chorus of willing intellectuals to say calming words about benign or altruistic empires, as if one shouldn't trust the evidence of one's eyes watching the destruction and the misery and death brought by the latest mission civilizatrice.”

and another one ->

“Always there lurks the assumption that although the Western consumer belongs to a numerical minority, he is entitled either to own or to expend (or both) the majority of the world resources. Why? Because he, unlike the Oriental, is a true human being. No better instance exists today of what Anwar Abdel Malek calls “the hegemonism of possessing minorities” and anthropocentrism allied with Europocentrism: a white middle-class Westerner believes it his human prerogative not only to manage the nonwhite world but also to own it, just because by definition “it” is not quite as human as “we” are. There is no purer example than this of dehumanized thought.”

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Good quotes, thanks. Western culture is like a famished pig with blinders.

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narjis of many camels's avatar

Exactly. Vijay Prashad calls it the international division of humanity - Westerners literally think they are better than everyone else, and they constantly need to reinforce that division. Most Palestinians would sooner die than abandon the land that is rightfully theirs. And after seeing the Resistance in Gaza the past week and how strong, brave, and popular they are, I don't think Trump or "Israel" will have a chance in hell of success with their evil plans.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Chang, Thanks for reminding us of the great intellectual Edward Said and his seminal work " Orientalism ".

Nothing has changed from his time to now. ".... as if one shouldn't trust the evidence of one's eyes watching the destruction and the misery and death brought by the latest mission civilizatrice.”

Always trust the evidence of one's eyes... . What would Edward Said say today facing a Trumpian empire that doesn't even pretend?

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gypsy33's avatar

Chang, 👏👏👏!

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martin's avatar

indeed, the paragraph on 'voluntary migration'. after doing nothing (resultswise, let's be real), it would be kinda rich to kinda demand that the women and children continue their heroic struggle and keep living among the destruction / mass grave site without forcing tremendous amounts of temporary shelter and other infrastructure and aid into gaza (saw the chinese build a temporary hospital in 10 days during covid). to the streets!

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gypsy33's avatar

Then allow the Chinese to come in and build temporary shelters, hospitals and schools.

The Palestinians ain’t goin’ NOWHERE.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

I was gobsmacked at Trumps plans for Gaza but I expected it, the Adelsons bought him with $100 million, they get what they want, the Palestinians get shit, as usual. Trump also unveiled his new mRNA cancer jabs so he can help Bill Gates kill off more people. Larry Ellison and Sam Altman are evil to the core, they either conned Trump or he's in on all of it, I tend to believe the later.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Your perspective is very confused. On the one hand, you are correct that Adelson money is influencing Trump's decisions regarding Palestine. On the other hand, you are an anti-vaxxer who is wrong about Covid, completely wrong. You probably also believe the lab leak lie. These views are inconsistent,.

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Guest's avatar

Inconsistent? What do views/facts about the covid scam & the mRNA “gene therapy” rollout have to do with views/facts regarding Trump’s connection to Adelson? Also, “anti-vaxxer” is a mindless term, particularly in connection to “treatments” that in no way, shape, or form are “vaccines.” The Pfizer & Moderna jabs were obviously ineffective as prophylactics as well as being shown to cause much physical harm.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Carolyn, that's one of the biggest problems on Substack - too many Anti-vaxxers, not enough critical thinkers. It's impossible getting through to such people - they have been brainwashed/gaslighted with false narratives just like the Israelis/Zionists have been indoctrinated/gaslighted with false narratives.

Also, the "anti-vaxx" and "alternative-cures" industry is a MULTI-BILLION dollar industry (and the Capitalists benefit by selling their wares - with false narratives if necessary). Hence, there is a HUGE PROFIT INCENTIVE to spread and propagandize "anti-vaxx" narratives.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

I didn't take the poison jabs because I like living, what has that got to do with my comment. "Anti-vaxxer" is a made up word by marxists.

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Landru's avatar

Marxists? Marx created a theory of economy. You mean, Capitalists.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

I got vaxxed and survived. Pretty incredible, eh?

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martin's avatar

do you think trump and adelson would agree with your pov that 'anti-vaxxer' is a made up word by marxists?

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Patrick Powers's avatar

The most prestigious medical journal in the UK, The Lancet, had an investigation that found for the lab leak theory.

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Bradley Lacke's avatar

lol the CIA just admitted that they covered up their own determination that Covid originated at WIV

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Duane McPherson's avatar

The origin of Covid remains unknown. The CIA analysis stated "with low confidence" that a lab leak was the more likely source, meaning that there are not enough facts to draw a conclusion (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/us/politics/cia-covid-lab-leak.html).

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Bradley Lacke's avatar

The origins of Covid remain unknown only if admitting otherwise would mean having to process being egregiously wrong on the Internet for years, or you're a government agency trying to cover your ass.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Tl;DR it is now politically convenient to blame China. The facts are irrelevant.

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